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Saturday, April 21, 2012

More handicapable, more better

I tend to doubt that this interesting aspect of immigration is often taken into account when the pro-immigration theoreticians claim that immigration is always a net positive for society:
A BBC investigation in Britain several years ago revealed that at least 55% of the Pakistani community in Britain was married to a first cousin. The Times of India affirmed that “this is thought to be linked to the probability that a British Pakistani family is at least 13 times more likely than the general population to have children with recessive genetic disorders.” The BBC’s research also discovered that while British Pakistanis accounted for just 3.4% of all births in Britain, they accounted for 30% of all British children with recessive disorders and a higher rate of infant mortality. It is not a surprise, therefore, that, in response to this evidence, a Labour Party MP has called for a ban on first-cousin marriage.

It is estimated that one third of all handicapped people in Copenhagen have a foreign background. Sixty four percent of school children in Denmark with Arabic parents are illiterate after 10 years in the Danish school system. The same study concludes that in reading ability, mathematics, and science, the pattern is the same: “The bilingual (largely Muslim) immigrants’ skills are exceedingly poor compared to their Danish classmates.” These problems within Islam bring many detriments to Western countries. Expenses related to mentally and physically handicapped Muslim immigrants, for instance, severely drain the budgets and resources of our societies. Look at Denmark, for example: one third of the budget for the country’s schools is spent on children with special needs. Muslim children are grossly overrepresented among these children. More than half of all children in schools for children with mental and physical handicaps in Copenhagen are foreigners — of whom Muslims are by far the largest group. One study concludes that “foreigners inbreeding costs our municipalities millions” because of the many handicapped children and adults.
The problem, of course, is that the transformative effect of immigration goes both ways. The host culture is effected by the immigrant culture, so it is as reasonable to expect that first cousin marriage will be not only legalized, but adopted by segments of the native population as well, as it is to assume it will be banned. So, while this may be good news for those of you who have highly attractive cousins, it's yet another example of how what passes for progress is actually regressive and detrimental to society. After all, if the host culture cannot be deemed superior to the immigrant culture, it has no grounds for denying immigrants, and everyone else, any cultural tradition they practice. And one need not be a social darwinist to doubt the benefit to any civilized society of importing masses of people guaranteed to be disproportionately mentally and physically handicapped.

Excuse me. Of course, I mean disproportionately mentally and physically handicapable.

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42 Comments:

Anonymous Hood April 21, 2012 7:28 AM  

Vox, it is only because their first cousins always cook the best dog dishes.

Anonymous Cryan Ryan April 21, 2012 7:32 AM  

Geeeeeeeez. This is not good news by any standard I can imagine.

Recently you pointed out that women entering the workforce en masse was a recent development, perhaps 40 years or whatever.

As compared to the 70 years it took for Russia's communist system to collapse.

I was thinking at the time perhaps a better comparison would be the failure of communism in the USSR and the women's suffrage movement in America, which began about the same time.

Maybe we're much closer to collapse than any of us can imagine.

The information you have shared in this post about Pakistanis will bounce off the heads of most women. They are more likely to want to prop the illiterate, genetically damaged women up on pedestals and give them a vote; as a way to "lift" them up.

Destroy the nation in order to save it, that is.

Anonymous antonym April 21, 2012 7:36 AM  

http://www.rightsidenews.com/2010081111313/life-and-science/culture-wars/muslim-inbreeding-impacts-on-intelligence-sanity-health-and-society.html

Roughly half of the world's Muslims are inbred. This explains a lot.

Blogger LP 999/Eliza April 21, 2012 7:59 AM  

Very sad.

But wait! First cousins marrying is less offensive than gay marriage - or is it? When will America or other so called modern nations make the choice between the lesser of two abominations? Why stop there, lets also promote the dancing boys (a reference to the documentary detailing adult male- male child molestation as a intricate part of their culture).

Anonymous The Great Martini April 21, 2012 8:24 AM  

Strange, never a post on anti-hillbillyism.

Anonymous E. PERLINE April 21, 2012 8:27 AM  

The information about Muslim inbreeding is new to me. It might explain why its customs are so self-destructive.

Anonymous Shutterbug April 21, 2012 8:37 AM  

So rather than discontinuing the ruinous financial support of developmentally disabled inbreds, the European states' propose limiting freedom by outlawing the marriage of first cousins.

Never, ever, does the state say "Maybe we shouldn't be financially supporting this." Instead, it says "You shouldn't be doing this and we're gonna pass a law to make you stop."

Anonymous HongKongCharlie April 21, 2012 8:48 AM  

The Great Martini April 21, 2012 8:24 AM

Strange, never a post on anti-hillbillyism.

One of two possibilities, Muslim or Progressive. Any way one looks at the statement it says this person is a couple standard deviations below the norm.

HKC

Anonymous DonReynolds April 21, 2012 9:02 AM  

All of the progressive Western nations, including the USA, have become the world's dumping grounds for human liabilities....excess people, those with acute and chronic medical needs, mental defectives, physically handicapped, and the like. This is what the Army used to call "the sick, the lame and the lazy." You probably recall when Castro emptied the prisons and nuthouses and nursing homes to rid his country of these people....and their associated costs.

I am becoming deaf in both ears from listening to whiney Liberal women wringing their hands over the fate of these poor, unfortunate people. But excuse me, I am infinitely more concerned about the fate of my own people, than I am about refugees from all over the world.

If we simply pull up the drawbridge, some jerk will lower it again once we look away, and the problem will continue. We need to burn the drawbridge and post sentries. It really has gotten that bad.

Anonymous Bobo April 21, 2012 9:06 AM  

Isn't the cop out here that the host culture brings out utilitarian thinking and so outlaws first cousin marriage not because immigrant culture is inferior, but because the burden of medical treatments is too great. Hence one can avoid criticising the immigrant culture directly while implicitly doing so in practice; and still be promoting immigration and multiculturalism.

Blogger SarahsDaughter April 21, 2012 9:19 AM  

1st cousin marriage with handicable children would mean more jobs and the latest ways school districts make money in this country. An IEP child, in this town at least, can choose which school he wants to go to (no school choice for the sound minds), gets bused to that school, and if the child is mainstreamed, gets a full time aid (one aid to one child) that attends class with him. If not mainstreamed because of severe mental issues, they get a special room, a ratio of 4 students to 1 teacher with her masters (and 2 aids).

Anonymous Smarty Pants April 21, 2012 9:33 AM  

I thought the biological dangers that come about through marrying close relatives isn't really all that great - if it is done just a few times. If you marry a cousin, apparently the danger of a noticeable genetic problem is something like 2.8 %. Not really all that worrisome. But if you do that for generation after generation, that probability climbs pretty quickly.

At least that's what I had read.

Aren't Jews pretty famous, at least in the past, for marrying there cousins. I thought diseases such as Tay-Sachs disease came from Jewish cousins marrying over multiple generations.

Anonymous The other skeptic April 21, 2012 10:01 AM  


Aren't Jews pretty famous, at least in the past, for marrying there cousins. I thought diseases such as Tay-Sachs disease came from Jewish cousins marrying over multiple generations.


I have often wondered about all the effort that is spent to get those of us who do not have breast cancer in our family lines to donate money for a cure as well.

Be careful who you breed with and your descendants will thank you.

Anonymous Smarty Pants April 21, 2012 10:20 AM  

Jewish women are definitely much more likely to get ovarian cancer as well.

Anonymous Cryan Ryan April 21, 2012 10:42 AM  

Look at some of the Mormon families - I'm talking about yesteryear, not today's multi-racial compositions.

You have offspring like Mitt Romney, Steve Young, & others who look like them, who seem to all suffer from the same genetic defects..tall, fair, symmetrical, muscular, coordinated, good eyesight, and higher than average intelligence.

It's almost as if they came from families with patriarchal Alpha Males having lots of children with many wives.. and then those kids intermarried, often to spouses of similar genetic makeup.

Maybe Mitt Romney could do more good for America by donating sperm from sea to shining sea.

Anonymous Anonymous April 21, 2012 10:46 AM  

Keep your muslims,your jews,your christians,your blacks,your whites,your do-gooders and your angry,shrill radicals of all stripes. This white man is going to Tahiti and race mix with the hula girls. Sounds like alot more fun than having to listen to another dogmatic,bullsh*t,made-up cr*p religion like Judeo-Christianity.Both christianity and judiasm have been complete disasters for Europe and America.Good luck jews and christians figuring things out. Joe

Anonymous Handi Man April 21, 2012 10:49 AM  

Never underestimate the power of the handicapped.

Anonymous Mr. Tzu April 21, 2012 11:10 AM  

@ DonReynolds

If we simply pull up the drawbridge, some jerk will lower it again once we look away, and the problem will continue. We need to burn the drawbridge and post sentries. It really has gotten that bad.


Draw Bridges may very well be going up, but this bridge is not purposed to the prevention of entering. In some respects the status of illegal alien would be preferable to that of citizen.

Anonymous Vidad April 21, 2012 11:23 AM  

Speaking as a guy with a hot cousin, I think the Pakistanis have a pretty good thing going there.

"Damn the birth defects! Full speed ahead!"

Anonymous nick digger April 21, 2012 11:25 AM  

No western country will succeed in banning cousinogamy. Any such attempt will be met with screams of "RACISM!!1", with perhaps a beheading and a couple of rapes, and the liberal sheep will be cowed back into tolerance.

Anonymous harry12 April 21, 2012 11:32 AM  

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Perhaps a subsidy on bomb vests?
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Anonymous CaptDMO April 21, 2012 11:38 AM  

Is there any correlation between the political opportunity terms for disingenuously overwhelming the system known as handicap-able and victimologyhoodedness?

Where does "borderline" (fill in the newly "discovered", not-their-fault, child malady here) fall into these "other peoples money" schemes?

Anonymous TLM April 21, 2012 11:47 AM  

I thought euthanizing all the tards in Europe was the thing to do. Especially the Dutch. Let me guess, it only applies to non-muslim tards.

Anonymous DrTorch April 21, 2012 11:58 AM  

More than half of US states allow first cousin marriages. This web-site says no European country forbids it.

http://www.cousincouples.com/?page=facts

(Assuming they're not, uh, embroidering the truth)
So Smarty Pants might be right: it's successive generations of doing this that lead to bigger problems.

However it is not surprising that the immigrants take far more resources than the natives.

Anonymous tabazco April 21, 2012 12:20 PM  

For more info on this topic, watch tne X-FILES episode 'HOME'. Q: how bad do you want to breed?

Anonymous DonReynolds April 21, 2012 12:21 PM  

"Keep your muslims,your jews,your christians,your blacks,your whites,your do-gooders and your angry,shrill radicals of all stripes. This white man is going to Tahiti and race mix with the hula girls. Sounds like alot more fun than having to listen to another dogmatic,bullsh*t,made-up cr*p religion like Judeo-Christianity.Both christianity and judiasm have been complete disasters for Europe and America.Good luck jews and christians figuring things out. Joe"

Joe, Tahiti is a good choice, but I hate to be the one to tell you....Tahiti is French and many of them speak French. Maybe you can join the independence movement and be a part of the excitement there. Christianity has been a part of those islands since the 1770s and I am not sure if you will find a place where there people without religion. The UK would have been a good choice, but now with the Hindus and Moslems, that is no longer the case. Best of luck, sonny, on your quest.

Joe....

Blogger swiftfoxmark2 April 21, 2012 12:23 PM  

What I find most amusing about this story is that while it is OK in the UK to marry your gay lover, marrying your cousin is crossing the line.

Considering that first cousin has been a long standing practice until early last century, when the secular progressive eugenics movement stepped in and banned it, I am shocked this hasn't come up sooner. The only person I've read who has talked about it was John Stossel.

Of course, if you marry your cousin, you are staying within your own dysfunctional family, so that may be a problem. My wife has some pretty messed up parents and is glad to have my parents around, who are not even remotely related to her by blood in any way.

Blogger mmaier2112 April 21, 2012 1:14 PM  

Funny...

Vox in 2008:

LINK!

Anonymous Oregon Mouse April 21, 2012 2:01 PM  

There a couple compelling reasons for inbreeding in Islamic culture. first, abuse of women is so rampant and institutionalized in Islam itself that families who care about their daughters are inclined to protect them by not marrying them too far from home. Marriage to a cousin who is closely tied to the woman's parents is a lot safer than marriage to a groom whose family has no blood ties and no extra motivation not to beat the hell out of his wifey.
Second, I worked with a Pakistani man who explained why there was no "dating" in his culture. Even the perception of impropriety damages a woman's marriagability. Men don't want to marry a woman whose chastity they aren't confident of. If they keep their search close to home chances are they know everything about their wife's "dating" history. The west doesn't need to ban inbreeding because there is no cultural motivation to inbreed, at least not since premogeniture went out of style. Cuttoff the welfare spigott and immigration will stop. Too bad its just wishfull thinking.

Anonymous Anonymous April 21, 2012 2:31 PM  

@DonReynolds
Thanks for the heads up.I don't speak French. I'm changing my plans and I'm goin' to be a mountain man up in the Yukon. Gonna do my best to avoid any churches or synagogues.. that's for sure... if they build a mosque up there,I'll treat the moslems civilly and cordially... it's not their fault our borders (in America&Europe&Canada)are open to the whole world. The jews(overwhemingly) and christians (overwhelmingly)supported open borders. They can deal with the consequences. Every time I ever spoke up against open borders,I was shouted down by jews and christians.They can go deal with the fallout and go f*ck their cousins for all I give a sh*t. Joe

Anonymous No_Limit_Bubba as Tony Montana April 21, 2012 4:05 PM  

@ Don Reynolds RE: Mariel Boatlift "Don't effing eff with me, mang! I ain't killed nobody...lately."

Anonymous Dr. Idle Spectator, Duke University Internal Medicine April 21, 2012 4:10 PM  

I think my favorite complication from first-cousin marriage (consanguinity) is congenital familial asplenia. In other words families have gaggles of children born without spleens. This was already well known in Britain back in the early 1980s.

"What in the HELL does a spleen do?! We don't need that part!!!" Apparently quite a lot, as these children grow up sickly and with impaired immune systems.

"I heard somebody say "burn baby, burn." Disco inferno! Burn baby, burn. Burn the mutha down!"

Anonymous Anonymous April 21, 2012 4:49 PM  

First Cousin Marriage in the US

If I counted correctly, 31 out of 51 (including DC) allow some form of first cousin marriage.


Hillbilly Amerika indeed!

Anonymous Suomynona April 21, 2012 6:36 PM  

Vox: The host culture is effected by the immigrant culture

I believe the word here should be affected.

Anonymous Johnycomelately April 21, 2012 6:55 PM  

Don"t racing horse breeders spend squillions to intermingle family lines?

Anonymous Vidad April 22, 2012 8:45 AM  

"Vox: The host culture is effected by the immigrant culture

I believe the word here should be affected."

No, it's 'defected,' in this case.

Blogger Markku April 22, 2012 10:02 AM  

I believe the word here should be affected.

The thought that there can be no host culture until there is immigration effects a negative affect in me.

Anonymous tz April 22, 2012 6:16 PM  

1st cousins marrying might be a reason to legalize gay marriage.

Anonymous Luke April 22, 2012 7:03 PM  

Tz wrote:

"1st cousins marrying might be a reason to legalize gay marriage."

Uh, homosexuals can marry right now. They just have to find someone of the opposite sex to marry. You are presumably referring to same-sex "marriage".

There will never be sufficient reason to legalize same-sex "marriage".

Anonymous Anonymous April 23, 2012 12:44 AM  

"Aren't Jews pretty famous, at least in the past, for marrying there cousins. I thought diseases such as Tay-Sachs disease came from Jewish cousins marrying over multiple generations."

Yes, that sounds right, "there cousins" indeed. That would go a long way in explaining the other thing they are pretty famous for, the higher IQs. You nailed that one Sherlock.

Jackass.

Anonymous Smarty Pants April 23, 2012 2:27 AM  

"Yes, that sounds right, "there cousins" indeed. That would go a long way in explaining the other thing they are pretty famous for, the higher IQs. You nailed that one Sherlock.

Jackass."

Certain forms of inbreeding have been shown to increase IQ so yet again your wrong. Also its a pretty famous fact that Jews married there cousins frequently in the past. Its also the reason they have much higher disease rates than most other groups. But carry on denying the genetic facts you Jackass.

I'm guessing your Jewish and upset about the fact that you have a high rate of inbreeding in your genetic lineage. Deal with it.

Anonymous PC Geek April 23, 2012 6:11 PM  

@Joe Both christianity and judiasm have been complete disasters for Europe and America.Good luck jews and christians figuring things out. Joe

You can't get much more historically ignorant than this - this blog alone has countered your retardation 10,000 times over.

Atheism has been the real disaster!

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