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Friday, April 27, 2012

Sitting in a glass house, hurling stones

I don't think a society in which a statistically significant percentage of the female porn revolves around necrophilia has a lot of leeway to criticize the purported "farewell law":
Alleged proposals to allow Egyptian husbands to legally have sex with their dead wives for up to six hours after their death have been branded a 'complete nonsense'. The controversial new 'farewell intercourse' law was claimed, in Arab media, to be part of a raft of measures being introduced by the Islamist-dominated parliament. They reported it would also see the minimum age of marriage lowered to 14 and the ridding of women's rights of getting education and employment.
I was always a bit skeptical about the reality of this supposed law anyhow. Six hours? Any mortician can tell you that dead bodies are perfectly useful for at least 48 postmortem. The link is perfectly SFW, but I wouldn't recommend clicking on any of the other comics. As a wise woman once said, 95 percent of all the world's weirdness comes from Japan. True science fact.

72 Comments:

Blogger swiftfoxmark2 April 27, 2012 3:05 PM  

From the Game standpoint: an Alpha would already be looking for another woman, for whatever purposes, the second his wife dies. A Sigma would be probably forget he had a wife after about a minute. A Beta would go through the motions but start looking after a month or so. An Omega, if he was married, would probably live in his basement for the next several months.

Deltas and Gammas would be the only ones who need this law. All of this was brought about because our President, a devout Gamma (or Lambda), allowed terrorists to take over Egypt.

Feel free to comment on the Game aspect. I'm sure I got a few wrong.

Anonymous Curlytop April 27, 2012 3:07 PM  

Vox: "I don't think a society in which a statistically significant percentage of the female porn revolves around necrophilia "

I'll just file this topic under things that I learn from Vox Popoli that I REALLY wish I didn't know.

Anonymous FUBAR Nation (Ben) April 27, 2012 3:25 PM  

It cracks me up how the idiots who supported the overthrow of Mubarak are waking up to realize that the Muslim bros are going to send them back into the kitchen.

They do have a point, because most jobs taken by women are completely useless paper pushing jobs anyways.

Blogger swiftfoxmark2 April 27, 2012 3:30 PM  

Vox, when you say statistically significant, is that the same significance as say, the number of people who are gay?

Anonymous Gen. Kong April 27, 2012 3:41 PM  

I fail to see why the Ministry of Truth and the brain-dead wymyn (regardless of genitalia) who follow their points and splutters have their collective hair on fire over this. Rejoice, for democracy has come to Egypt! It's Springtime for Allah and Dhimmitude! Winter for Sarko and France. Now maybe one of the members of the brotherhood over there can invite Hussein-on-d'downlow for a nice necrophilia / dog-meat party so he can bring Moochelle and the kidz along for tricks. Just imagine the fun the seecrit service can have in the shadow of the pyramids. Ministry of Truth will then start to talk up virtues of sex with corpses and of the many nutritional advantages of not-so-fresh dog-meat.

Anonymous dB April 27, 2012 3:41 PM  

Do you still have to cuddle afterwards???

Anonymous Stickwick April 27, 2012 3:49 PM  

Curlytop: Vox: "I don't think a society in which a statistically significant percentage of the female porn revolves around necrophilia "

I'll just file this topic under things that I learn from Vox Popoli that I REALLY wish I didn't know.


I think he's referring to the Twilight nonsense. Vampires are technically dead, after all.

Anonymous Suomynona April 27, 2012 3:51 PM  

This must be in the Egyptian genetic code. If I remember correctly, Herodotus wrote something regarding this practice. Yes, I found the passage:
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The wives of men of rank when they die are not given at once to be embalmed, nor such women as are very beautiful or of greater regard than others, but on the third or fourth day after their death (and not before) they are delivered to the embalmers. They do so about this matter in order that the embalmers may not abuse their women, for they say that one of them was taken once doing so to the corpse of a woman lately dead, and his fellow-craftsman gave information.
======================
Heh. The husbands are demanding the right for themselves. Anyone who objects is a necrophiliaphobe. Haters.

Anonymous Luke April 27, 2012 3:53 PM  

I just call that stuff "Vampire Lust". Major problem with it is shown by this classic humor picture:

http://verydemotivational.memebase.com/2010/08/09/demotivational-posters-simple-logic/

Or directly to the pic: http://verydemotivational.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/demotivational-posters-simple-logic1.jpg

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Totally OT, but interesting as hell:

Ron Paul quietly preventing Romney from getting Repub Prez nomination, and making a fair stab at getting it himself, by among other things, apparently being the top delegate winner in Iowa, Minnesota, etc., using the Harding Strategy:

http://www.whiteoutpress.com/articles/q22012/romney-nomination-in-doubt-brokered-convention-likely647/

OpenID Kevin April 27, 2012 3:57 PM  

Swiftfoxmark2, take a look at the fiction section of your local book store -- particularly SciFi/Fantasy. Hence the "statistically significant" comment.

Anonymous No_Limit_Bubba April 27, 2012 3:59 PM  

How do you know your wife is dead? ..... ....... The sex is the same, but the dishes are piling up. Also, in the spirit of gender equality..... How do you know your husband is dead?...... ........ The sex is the same, but the television stays on the same channel. .... Thank you! I'll be here all weekend. Please tip your bartenders and bartenders...

Anonymous No_Limit_Bubba April 27, 2012 4:02 PM  

Ummmm ...bartenders and waitresses....

Anonymous Daniel April 27, 2012 4:02 PM  

People in Egypt shouldn't be relieved that it was only a rumor. It is about the only legislation (fake or real) that provides any protections for women. After all, at the 7th hour, he could have been arrested.

Anonymous The Phantom Blogger April 27, 2012 4:03 PM  

I've said this before in another thread but if Vampires are dead and don't have a heart beat, how do they get erections?

Anonymous cheddarman April 27, 2012 4:05 PM  

Sweet!

I never thought of vampire romance novels as having a strong necrophilia theme, but as vampires are technically dead humans, the charge sticks!

i am getting the AWCA-tistry

sincerely

cheddarman

Anonymous Stickwick April 27, 2012 4:08 PM  

The Phantom Blogger: I've said this before in another thread but if Vampires are dead and don't have a heart beat, how do they get erections?

Selective rigor mortis?

Anonymous Zartan April 27, 2012 4:09 PM  

Rule 34 of the internet: If it exists, there is porn of it.
Rule 34a NO EXCEPTIONS!

Anonymous Lysander Spoonef April 27, 2012 4:16 PM  

How do vampires get erections!?

Really, don't ya' know when teh grrrrrrrls are on that unicorn and riding that rainbow , details don't matter.

Man, u are an insensitive jerk, just raining on the parade of wimminz liberation!!

My real question is after wifey n the vampire off the no longer desired husband, do they start thinking about it for REAL ?

Anonymous Curlytop April 27, 2012 4:20 PM  

Stickwick: "I think he's referring to the Twilight nonsense. Vampires are technically dead, after all."

Ah, yeah...good point, but I still have that file. It is worth noting that my first exposure to Twilight is from this blog. ;-)

Anonymous Luke April 27, 2012 4:28 PM  

The Phantom Blogger said:

"I've said this before in another thread but if Vampires are dead and don't have a heart beat, how do they get erections?"

Already completely covered in my 4/27 3:52 PM post 5 posts above yours, if you took the time to look at the picture I linked to.

Anonymous herewardMW April 27, 2012 4:45 PM  

There's one little side effect of the Arab Spring they won't be mentioning in the NYT.

Anonymous 11B April 27, 2012 5:06 PM  

People in Egypt shouldn't be relieved that it was only a rumor. It is about the only legislation (fake or real) that provides any protections for women. After all, at the 7th hour, he could have been arrested.

Al Arabiya is also reporting it.

Anonymous Daniel April 27, 2012 5:12 PM  

It's really a feminist issue. If the deceased won't say "no," how is he to know?

I'm picturing the awareness slogan:

"DOA MEANS DOA!"

Anonymous cherub's revenge April 27, 2012 5:17 PM  

Looking for a Chinese partner to export curling irons to Egypt.

Anonymous Daniel April 27, 2012 5:19 PM  

Who are they to say necromance is dead?

Anonymous III April 27, 2012 5:39 PM  

So that is what KY is for.

Anonymous GHS April 27, 2012 5:43 PM  

"I've said this before in another thread but if Vampires are dead and don't have a heart beat, how do they get erections?"

http://thecinemasnob.com/2011/07/28/nekromantik.aspx

Once you go pipe, you never go ripe.

Anonymous Idle Spectator April 27, 2012 5:55 PM  

Well Vox, so many Japanese people are so stiff in public, would you even realize they were dead?

And necrophilia is too demeaning. Like homosexual was changed to "gay," necrophilia should be changed to "one way romance."

Anonymous 11B April 27, 2012 5:58 PM  

OT, Drudge has linked a story about a Mexican lady pregnant with 9, that's right, nine kids.

Does anyone want to give odds that she somehow manages to come to the US to give birth.

Anonymous DonReynolds April 27, 2012 6:15 PM  

Lowering the age of marriage in Egypt to 14 is not so drastic to me. That is ALREADY the marriagible age in Texas.

The age of consent (not quite the same thing) among the 50 states is often 16, 15 in Virginia, Colorado and Connecticut, and only 14 in Hawaii, South Carolina and Idaho. Many states have raised the age of (sexual) consent. I can recall when states like Kentucky had a minimum age of consent of 12 and in Delaware it was 7. For several states it was 13.

Anonymous DonReynolds April 27, 2012 6:34 PM  

Idle Spectator....'And necrophilia is too demeaning. Like homosexual was changed to "gay," necrophilia should be changed to "one way romance."'

That would never work. It would be too easy to confuse necro with many ordinary sex lives. I have had "one way romance" many times, but she was still alive later.

Maybe better to use an existing term for necro....."safe sex".

Anonymous debbs April 27, 2012 6:35 PM  

Feel free to comment on the Game aspect. I'm sure I got a few wrong.

Quite possibly all of them? Regardless of where a man is alpha-betacally situated, if he has the capacity for a committed relationship he will most likely grieve his wife's passing. Men, at least in western cultures, do not consider their wives sub-human but generally love them to a greater degree than they love other fellow human beings. Even sigmas and alphas can be strongly bonded to their wives and would have difficulty adjusting to the loss.

Blogger Hermit April 27, 2012 6:40 PM  

Necrophilia, because love is only a jar of vaseline and a curling iron away...

Anonymous Idle Spectator April 27, 2012 6:43 PM  

"That would never work. It would be too easy to confuse necro with many ordinary sex lives. I have had "one way romance" many times, but she was still alive later."

That's how it should be! Gay = happy. So homosexuals are just ordinary happy people!
And necrophilia = one way romance. So necrophiliacs are just like all of us! <3 <3 <3

Anonymous jm April 27, 2012 7:50 PM  

'But she's dead!'

'As you can see, our love isn't.'

Anonymous T14 April 27, 2012 8:12 PM  

I'm still stunned by men who stay interested in the same living woman for more than six hours

Anonymous DrTorch April 27, 2012 8:19 PM  

I think he's referring to the Twilight nonsense. Vampires are technically dead, after all.

Technically they're undead. So I'm not sure if it's really necrophilia.

Anonymous TheVillageIdiotRet April 27, 2012 8:44 PM  

DannyR ,you stand before the court today charged with;
necrophilia beastiality,
how do you plead.

Not guilty your honor.
I swear I thought that dog was alive when I was fuckin' it,
I ain't no damn prevert.

DannyR

Anonymous JCclimber April 27, 2012 9:21 PM  

My first exposure to this sick stuff was at a thing in San Francisco. Someone I trusted invited me to a Bloody Valentine's party. I figured, hot kinky chicks wearing revealing goth attire.
1) Never trust women who wouldn't be trustworthy wingwomen to know what a good party is
2) Don't get drunk before you can evaluate for yourself if the venue is one where you want to score
3) Definitely, when someone starts telling a story into the microphone about trying to please their lover by getting as close to a death state as possible (makeup, laying in ice bath, etc).....walk out. Even if the chick looks hot and is wearing a completely see-through dress.
4) Always have a backup plan if at a party, even if it is just a booty call or a movie by yourself.

Luckily the alcohol I had that night, and time, have erased almost all the details of the sick story.

Anonymous Idle Spectator April 27, 2012 9:23 PM  

Pics or it didn't happen.

Anonymous Idle Necrophilatator April 27, 2012 9:27 PM  

COLDDEADTITIES OR GTFO!1!!11 lulz

Anonymous zen0 April 27, 2012 10:15 PM  

Luckily the alcohol I had that night, and time, have erased almost all the details of the sick story.

Dude man, hey, whoa...What?

Anonymous Luke April 27, 2012 10:31 PM  

Dungeons & Dragons player definition of necrophilia:

That overwhelming desire to crack open a cold one.

Anonymous Kyle In Japan April 27, 2012 10:39 PM  

Not sure what Japan has to do with this... the comic isn't Japanese. I don't think necrophilia is very popular here anyway, I think most pervy J-dudes are into the whole underage school girl thing more than anything else.

Anonymous zen0 April 27, 2012 10:39 PM  

Have any of you ever touched a corpse? Do you know how cold it can be within half an hour?

Anonymous zen0 April 27, 2012 10:46 PM  

I think most pervy J-dudes are into the whole underage school girl thing more than anything else.

Still?

That is so very weird. As long as real interest rates remain negative, Jap schoolgirls are hot!
Don't get me started...

Anonymous Oregon Mouse April 27, 2012 11:32 PM  

It's kind of heart warming to know that even terrorists have a sentimental side.

Anonymous Oregon Mouse April 27, 2012 11:41 PM  

"Do you still have to cuddle afterwards???"
No. But you still have to shower.

Anonymous paradox April 28, 2012 12:01 AM  

Dammit! She's dead Jim!

Anonymous Stickwick April 28, 2012 12:15 AM  

DrTorch: Technically they're undead. So I'm not sure if it's really necrophilia.

According to Wikipedia, "undead" means deceased but behaving as though alive. Since there's death involved, the term necrophilia presumably applies.

Anonymous Boogeyman April 28, 2012 12:32 AM  

It's going to get real interesting in Egypt when the zombie apocalypse comes around.

Blogger Spacebunny April 28, 2012 1:04 AM  

Don't worry, this law would never pass in the US. If you can be considered too drunk to give consent, there's no way a corpse can give consent......although, come to think of it, this could be a whole new line of employment for all of those lawyers we don't know what to do with!

Blogger LP 999/Eliza April 28, 2012 3:20 AM  

From dog meat to the craze of ugly teenage vamps to this. I first question, is this real?

My 'gross out' saturation level is here, it cannot get any sicker than this. But depravity and sin knows no bounds so I guess we can expect more...

Why isn't that culture happy enough with its child brides, men molesting boys and female genitalia mutilation? Now they need farewell relations?

Anonymous Suomynona April 28, 2012 4:12 AM  

Spacebunny April 28, 2012 1:04 AM - If you can be considered too drunk to give consent, there's no way a corpse can give consent

A corpse is not a human being. No consent is necessary, nor even possible. I believe a corpse becomes the property of the family. If the owner of the corpse wants to take liberties with it, or even pimp it out, the corpse has no more say in the matter than would any other inanimate object. The materialists rightly deserve this type of legislation to be passed. It is a natural progression of their moral relativity.

Anonymous Outlaw X April 28, 2012 6:59 AM  

I wouldn't have touched it with a ten foot pole. This is just so sick. I know why it was done, but it made me sick.

Blogger Spacebunny April 28, 2012 8:12 AM  

A corpse is not a human being. No consent is necessary, nor even possible.

Don't be ridiculous - an animal is not a human being either and bestiality is illegal almost everywhere - the reason often given is that the animal cannot give consent.

I believe a corpse becomes the property of the family. If the owner of the corpse wants to take liberties with it, or even pimp it out, the corpse has no more say in the matter than would any other inanimate object.

Again, an animal is also property of a family (or individual) and yet they are not allowed to do whatever they want with it.

Blogger Markku April 28, 2012 9:46 AM  

Kyle In Japan Not sure what Japan has to do with this... the comic isn't Japanese. I don't think necrophilia is very popular here anyway, I think most pervy J-dudes are into the whole underage school girl thing more than anything else.

Last line in the FAQ: "If you find yourself in the Tokyo area of Japan and want to buy me a beer, drop me a line! Don't worry, I'll buy the second round."

You were saying?

Anonymous Suomynona April 28, 2012 12:09 PM  

Don't be ridiculous - an animal is not a human being either and bestiality is illegal almost everywhere - the reason often given is that the animal cannot give consent.

An animal is not inanimate. A corpse is. Nothing ridiculous about my reasoning.

Anonymous Suomynona April 28, 2012 12:12 PM  

Is screwing a dead animal, stuffed and preserved, considered bestiality? I don't think so. Same principle with a corpse.

Blogger Spacebunny April 28, 2012 2:22 PM  

An animal is not inanimate. A corpse is.

Goal post move? Really? Sad.

Anonymous Suomynona April 28, 2012 2:34 PM  

What are you talking about? That was my contention from the start:

the corpse has no more say in the matter than would any other inanimate object.

That you failed to notice this not my problem.
I've moved zero goalpost. My conclusions are correct.

Blogger Spacebunny April 28, 2012 3:13 PM  

A corpse is not a human being. No consent is necessary, nor even possible. I believe a corpse becomes the property of the family.

This was your original contention. It came before and it also negates nothing about what I have said about bestiality and legality either (an animal has no say in the matter either, dear). But feel free to keep swinging away- your conclusion is, as been demonstrated - not correct.

Blogger Spacebunny April 28, 2012 3:21 PM  

You listed two, separate and no related criteria and then attempt to switch to the other one when you have clearly failed in your attempt to justify the first. Brilliant, I'm sure it will convince someone, somewhere. I would also note that your attempt to assert that screwing a "dead animal, stuffed and preserved" is analogous in someway is, as they say, apples and oranges, so no, it is not the same principal as the corpses are neither stuffed nor preserved. Furthermore I would note that it is indeed illegal to have sex with a dead animal is illegal in many areas, about 5 years ago or so a WI man was found guilty of having sex with a dead deer (he arguably has much more serious issues than the men who want to have sex with their dead wives ;^)

Anonymous FP April 28, 2012 3:36 PM  

OT but speaking of glass houses:

Savage on antibullying

via http://hotair.com/archives/2012/04/28/anti-bullying-hero-bullies-conference-of-school-children/

Anonymous FrankNorman April 28, 2012 4:36 PM  

My reaction on this - what IS it with Middle-eastern people and crazy laws about perverted sex? When it is or isn't legal to have sex with a donkey, or with a corpse? Why is it ever considered okay at all?

Anonymous Suomynona April 28, 2012 4:38 PM  

Why would consent be required from an animal? It clearly cannot give it, but yet it is required. It's because the animal is an animate object, a sentient being.

Why would consent be required from a corpse? It is neither sentient nor animate.

This was the only distinction I was making. Disregarding legalities, the two cases are not the same.

Blogger Spacebunny April 28, 2012 4:43 PM  

Good grief - who cares why it would be required? I didn't right the law for pity's sake.

As for "disregarding legalities" - why the hell are you even commenting on the topic then - the whole point is about it being legal.

Anonymous Suomynona April 28, 2012 4:51 PM  

Whether anyone cares isn't the point. There is a logical reason for this requirement. The reason does not exist for a corpse. This was the distinction I was making.

Why is it illegal to have sex with a corpse and not illegal to have sex with a cantaloupe?

Blogger Spacebunny April 28, 2012 5:05 PM  


Why is it illegal to have sex with a corpse and not illegal to have sex with a cantaloupe?


It's completely irrelevant - the topic is not why the laws exist, dear. Do stop building straw men.

Anonymous Suomynona April 28, 2012 5:29 PM  

Not trying to build any straw men. Just having a friendly discussion over a trifling matter, on which I won't waste any more time. The topic is certainly not important enough for me to put up with your demeanor.

Anonymous TheVillageIdiotRet April 28, 2012 10:32 PM  

I WANT MY BABY BACK

DannyR

Anonymous FrankNorman April 29, 2012 12:29 AM  


Why is it illegal to have sex with a corpse and not illegal to have sex with a cantaloupe?


Because a corpse is a human body, and a cantaloupe is not?
For the same reason its okay to eat the cantaloupe, but not the corpse?

(Imagine it - how would the multiculturalists feel about acccomodating people from one of those New Guinian tribes where they eat their dead relatives rather than bury them?)

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