ALL BLOG POSTS AND COMMENTS COPYRIGHT (C) 2003-2014 VOX DAY. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. REPRODUCTION WITHOUT WRITTEN PERMISSION IS EXPRESSLY PROHIBITED.

Friday, July 06, 2012

FreeFascistThoughtBlogs

The funniest thing about all of this isn't the irony that FreeThoughtBlogs doesn't support actual free thought. For all that atheists have attempted, with some success, to steal the concept, joch sint iedoch gedanke frî was, in fact, not only a Christian concept but a Catholic one. But the atheist "freethinker" supports genuine freedom of thought about as sincerely as the American liberal supports genuine liberalism. What is actually funny is the idea that despite all of the copious evidence readily available on the Internet, there are still a few people who believe that PZ Myers has any integrity at all, academic or otherwise.



And what was his thoughtcrime? Pointing out that Skepchick is a lunatic and that hundreds of atheists are not, in fact, attempting to rape her every time she attends an atheist conference. Or something to that effect, I couldn't care less. But I stand corrected. The funniest part of this kerfluffle, at least so far, is when Thunderfoot not only succinctly describes PZ's customary method of argument, but actually expresses surprise at it.

1. The pointless use of invective.
2. The extensive use of strawmen.
3. The lack of any actual attempt to engage with the argument made.


Needless to say, longtime readers know that I've been pointing this sort of thing out ever since I was under the impression that PZ was a girl bitching about my WND columns. He's always been a liar, he's always been an inept polemicist, and it's simply astonishing how long it has taken many atheists to realize this.

It's also informative to read the shamelessly dishonest attempts of the Pharyngulans to defend PZ while completely missing the point. Of course FreeThoughtBlogs has the right to police the content being posted by its bloggers. That's not the problem, the problem is that PZ promised that he would not do that. And then he did precisely what he promised he would not do. Which is what makes him a liar and is the reason this Thunderfoot is correctly accusing him of lacking integrity.

Labels:

39 Comments:

Anonymous Mob-Rules July 06, 2012 7:49 PM  

I'd hate to see how bad it would get if he did debate you. Do you think he'd storm off or pull a Justin Bieber and hang up the phone?

Anonymous Gx1080 July 06, 2012 7:59 PM  

Atheists, like most "light lefties" aka everybody on the Left that doesn't have the stomach for being a communist, are a bunch of Aspergery Nerds, and aspie nerds are damn good for kissing the ass of nerd queens.

6/10 chick being followed for half a dozen nerds = Nerd Queen. A truly sad spectacle.

Oh, and Skepchick is crazy. And, like most feminists, hypocritical. It started it's funding with a sexy calendar of the women on the blog.

Blogger tz July 06, 2012 8:01 PM  

There aren't any links and I haven't tried the youtube, but I feel like I came in in the middle.

'Penny for your thoughts", "My two cents", "Free speech". You get what you pay for.

Blogger Vox July 06, 2012 8:03 PM  

Hmmm, that's a good question. Actually, I think he'd start denying his past positions and start claiming more nuanced ones that are more similar to my own. Basically, a defensive appeal to rhetoric. PZ sometimes appears to try doing what I do, he's just not able to pull it off. My positions tend to appear hyper-extreme but are actually quite carefully nuanced when you look at them closely, which is why people are usually forced to resort to attacking crude strawmen in lieu of them. PZ lets it all hang out, then tries to belatedly retreat from his initial position.

I find it extremely funny that some people still think it bothers me that PZ won't debate me on anything. I knew there was no chance of it from the start, as we both know I'd clean his clock. Can you imagine him even being able to correctly follow the debate I've been having with Dominic?

(Dominic, I WILL get back to that as soon as I can. You know what I've been doing....)

Blogger LP 999/Eliza July 06, 2012 8:09 PM  

I love this stuff, totally hilarious!

Blogger rcocean July 06, 2012 8:38 PM  

What's even funnier is that large numbers of "Smart" Atheists think PZ is one super-smart guy.

Anonymous Scintan July 06, 2012 8:42 PM  

Free speech for me, but not for thee.


Sadly, that seems to be pretty much in line with about 99% of the world's population today.

Anonymous Idle Spectator July 06, 2012 8:48 PM  

Skepchick? Was that girl with the hipster glasses and messed up Fecal-Alcohol Syndrome face?

I'd tap that. With a brick.

//Frat Boy mode

Oooooh right! Fist-pound, fist-pound, bro.

Anonymous Frat Boy Idle Spectator July 06, 2012 8:50 PM  

"I thought it was supposed to be 'I'd hit that'?"

"No, I'd hit her with the elevator."

//Fist-pound

Anonymous Faust July 06, 2012 9:08 PM  

So maybe somebody can help me out with this.

I think it's important to read blogs written by your ideological opponents. There's nothing more dangerous than only reading people who agree with you; it rots your brain. So since I don't know any major atheist blogs, I've been reading lots of freethought. And I've noticed what the youtube video pointed out: it's all feminism. It's all feminism, all the time. That site spends more time talking about sexism than it does atheism, which seems very strange for an atheist blog. Is this something unique to that blog, or have feminists completely taken over the atheist movement?

Anonymous Suomynona July 06, 2012 9:15 PM  

Just published yesterday and there are already 3,088 comments on that video. It's a sad commentary on a society that would pay this much attention to the drama surrounding this ridiculous man. Just look at that spineless weasel of a man, with his insipid bearded face - there is nothing about that man deserving any kind of recognition. In a sane world, he'd have learned just to keep his stupid mouth shut lest the first person within earshot punch his lights out for being such an anti-theistic cunt liar.

Anonymous Suomynona July 06, 2012 9:28 PM  

Anyhoo, as long as the hive is all gathered for their tizzy, I thought it was a good place to get in a jab at the whole lot of them.

Anonymous The other skeptic July 06, 2012 9:38 PM  

OT, but I have to say that this is disturbing

Anonymous fnn July 06, 2012 9:39 PM  

I think it's important to read blogs written by your ideological opponents.

Leftism/Feminism/Cultural Marxism is the official ideology of the Empire. All that stuff is constantly in the air surrounding you. So I don't see why you need to read those blogs. An atheist/neo-pagan right-Nietzschean blog with usually high intellectual content is
counter-currents.com/

Anonymous Nihilus July 06, 2012 9:42 PM  

That site spends more time talking about sexism than it does atheism, which seems very strange for an atheist blog. Is this something unique to that blog, or have feminists completely taken over the atheist movement?

It would seem that gammas have a high probability for becoming atheists. They also tend to be white knights.

Anonymous physphilmusic July 06, 2012 9:44 PM  

Is this something unique to that blog, or have feminists completely taken over the atheist movement?

Why on earth the self-proclaimed "rational" atheists, with all their professed commitment to science, have readily agreed to an alliance with the feminists is almost beyond me. It does kind of make sense, though, once you consider that the majority of them, PZ included, are probably kowtowing gammas and omegas at heart who are desperate for any kind of female attention.

I predict that the "true" rationalists, if there are any, will in time sincerely regret this unholy alliance. Feminism is one of the furthest things ever from logical and rational thinking. Have they forgotten about the Science Wars of the 90s? Have they actually seen what usually happens when you try to bring a scientific perspective when discussing feminism with a feminist? For me, it took only about 2-3 exchanges until my interlocutor started bringing in the shaming term "patriarchal science" and "patriarchal logic".

Anonymous The other skeptic July 06, 2012 9:51 PM  

WTF? The NT Times has just discovered that schools are not kind to boys

Anonymous praetorian.com July 06, 2012 9:54 PM  

Release the hounds!

http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/internet/2012/07/what-online-harassment-looks

Cheers,
prat

Anonymous The other skeptic July 06, 2012 10:12 PM  

I guess that GM and the pResident with a fake SS number will be unhappy that someone thinks she can do without a car.

Anonymous MOOR_WITHOUT_BONDS July 06, 2012 10:42 PM  

Faust,

People like POZ Myers and his Gnu Atheists (ugly and hairy, just like the animal) are, in reality, just a bunch of liberals and omega males who blame daddy and religious morality for the fact that they can't seduce anything above a 2/10. According to them, it's not because they are pasty slovenly manchildren with zero game, zero charm and zero muscles. No, it's because the xian bigots teach their daughters that hardass morality that makes them prefer the vapid jocks and rich douchebags over the intelligent and classy renaissance men who read Hitchens and say "whilst" a lot.

Not convinced? Look at all the male feminism. These dorks are so poorly socialized and their insights on the opposite sex are so weak that they believe there is some karma-esque economy out there in the sexual market that will reward them for parroting ideology. Just like the nice guy who believes that being a good friend for months will get him in the sack with his inamorata, the feminist Gnu thinks something along the lines of "Hmm, I white knighted the faire maiden Skepchick (a 4 at best) in a couple blog posts and she said thank you in her last YouTube video... that means she'll give me a crotch rub at the next atheist conference if I keep on doing it!" Yeah right.

I appreciate your intellectual honesty, but those guys are a bunch of clowns. If you are interested in the best contemporary expositions of atheism you'd be better off reading something by Graham Oppy or J.L. Mackie. Or, like someone mentioned before, reactionary atheists in the vein of Nietzsche and Schopenhauer. Especially Schopenhauer because he 'got' women and thus had some really tight game.

Blogger IM2L844 July 06, 2012 11:08 PM  

So, the pot and the kettle got into a little family squabble over the proper way to address feminists and their petty issues? That is funny.

Blogger papabear July 06, 2012 11:18 PM  

So it is an effective rhetorical strategy to tell atheists they're just bitter guys who can't get p*ssy? heh.

Anonymous MOOR_WITHOUT_BOUNDS July 06, 2012 11:25 PM  

Nah, don't bring that up. That would be, you know, an ~ad hominem~

And don't bring up the daddy issues unless you enjoy making others melt down. As caustic as I am, I refrain from schadenfreude.

There are good arguments out there. That guy Ed Feser from your blogroll is 100% pro-read.

Anonymous OskarHomolka July 06, 2012 11:36 PM  

Who is PZ anyway!?!?
I did learn alot at first, but I had alot to learn so that don't count, but it always bothered me that Vox would pick on such a dushe, he teaches biology for god's sake.

There mus be some smarter dimwits that blog than PZ to pick on. ;)

Anonymous Roundtine July 07, 2012 1:25 AM  

Only slightly OT: Patrice O'Neal interview. He discusses free speech and argues that hate speech is ok.

Lots of foul language, but also lots of good points.

Anonymous Anonymous July 07, 2012 4:13 AM  

MOOR_WITHOUT_BONDS nailed it. The theist v atheist discussion predates christianity and will likely outlast current civilisation. The discussion has been hiatus for the past century since atheism has been hijacked from a personal position based on rationality to become a club with which to beat Western civilisation into the ground. The entire left wing platform, from their militant atheism (which is not really atheism but more like petulant teens chucking a wobbly against Daddy), to feminism, overly simplistic Darwinian models (attempting to explain everything in evolutionary terms) and so on is designed and orchestrated to undermine Western civilisation and pave the way for the NWO.

The reason for this was that academic and intellectual thought, the paragon of dead white males who shaped society, had to be undercut and reduced to the ridiculous, leaving the future intelligent white males who would conceive the new ideas that would shape western society out in the cold.


B

Anonymous I Want Revenge July 07, 2012 5:42 AM  

Screw this. Is the upgrade to the VPAL the next year?

Who was last year's winner, and will the VPAL still gonna roll, with the winner of the VPAL getting an aoutomatic roll, with the boys in the pack of the VPFL up to the VPFL this year?

Anonymous Anonymous July 07, 2012 5:53 AM  

Why on earth the self-proclaimed "rational" atheists, with all their professed commitment to science, have readily agreed to an alliance with the feminists is almost beyond me. It does kind of make sense, though, once you consider that the majority of them, PZ included, are probably kowtowing gammas and omegas at heart who are desperate for any kind of female attention.
--------------------------

and in exchange for that attention they let the fems turn their atheist forum into yet another sexual grievance platform where they can bash the sexual advances of the very gammas and omegas that invited them on board to begin with

Anonymous Gx1080 July 07, 2012 6:22 AM  

"Why on earth the self-proclaimed "rational" atheists, with all their professed commitment to science, have readily agreed to an alliance with the feminists is almost beyond me."

Male feminists #1 motivation for kissing ass aka knowtowing to the Feminism fake idols is to get laid.

That works as well as you could expect.

Also, what Anonymous said.

Anonymous MikeH July 07, 2012 8:03 AM  

So it is an effective rhetorical strategy to tell atheists they're just bitter guys who can't get p*ssy? heh.

It is observation, not rhetoric. Imagine if you will that you take PZ and Jonah Hill to a bar in some place that is not familiar with either of their relative fame. Who will bag the hotter chick? They are both homely males so it comes down to who can spit better game and that clearly would be the professional comic actor. It would not even be close.

Anonymous Salt July 07, 2012 9:21 AM  

take PZ and Jonah Hill to a bar in some place that is not familiar with either of their relative fame. Who will bag the hotter chick?

Depends on the bar. But to answer your question, PZ of course, as the only bar she'd score in would be a lesbian one where rolling over and wetting herself would be seen as enticing.

Blogger Crude July 07, 2012 11:19 AM  

I can imagine there's only going to be more fights in the future, since I'm pretty sure both "crazy male feminists" and "resentful guys with issues about women" are well represented in the Cult of Gnu.

Anonymous JACIII July 07, 2012 12:23 PM  

Thread winner:

".... PZ of course, as the only bar she'd score in would be a lesbian one where rolling over and wetting herself would be seen as enticing."

Blogger IncorrectlyRight July 07, 2012 12:40 PM  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTom-e1U1LI&feature=g-user-f

This video explains their tragic breakup.

Anonymous Gx1080 July 07, 2012 5:54 PM  

"...the Cult of Gnu."

Heh. All hail Richard M. Stalinman, he that will save us from Micro$oft.

Theirs is a problem for a PUA. Or a shrink.

Blogger rcocean July 07, 2012 7:06 PM  

Why would 'atheists' align themselves with 'feminazi's'?

'CAUSE THEY ARE ALL LEFTISTS. Watson is a left-wing feminist, PZ is left-wing Atheist, etc. etc.

BTW, has a "true atheist" showed up yet to tell us that PZ isn't one?

Anonymous physphilmusic July 07, 2012 8:32 PM  

'CAUSE THEY ARE ALL LEFTISTS. Watson is a left-wing feminist, PZ is left-wing Atheist

I was actually surprised to gradually learn that they are way more leftist than they are atheist. A truly super-rationalistic atheist would dismiss both left and right thinking as bullshit. I would respect that more.

Blogger Crowhill July 08, 2012 3:47 PM  

PZ is one of those guys who tempts me to believe that atheist = asshole.

Anonymous Anonymous July 09, 2012 6:15 AM  

@ physphilmusic:"BTW, has a "true atheist" showed up yet to tell us that PZ isn't one?"

Yo. Of course he isn't. A true atheist isn't interested in God discussions because they are silly from an atheist perspective. Might as well discuss unicorns.
Most intellectual atheists in history are agnostics rationally seeking an answer.
PZ and his ilk though are typical leftists. They are atheists only because right wing is synonymous with Christianty. Were left wing thinking synonymous with Christianity then PZ would be Christian.
PZ and the like get purpose in life by attacking the traditional society, whatever it is. By definition they are everything radical and upsetting to the traditional, hence their atheism is merely reactionary and designed to piss off Christians or score status points with other left wingers.
A true atheist is not interested in discussing God because they have their mind made up. Agnostics do the talking about God not existing because they are seeking confirmation of their views.
If a discussion of the existence of God starts and you see one person keeping their mouth shut and looking bored then they are likely a true atheist.

Post a Comment

NO ANONYMOUS COMMENTS. Anonymous comments will be deleted.

Links to this post:

Create a Link

<< Home

Newer Posts Older Posts