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Wednesday, July 11, 2012

So much for integration

But I'm sure the Univision viewers are deeply and intimately attached to some words on paper written by dead white Englishmen more than two centuries ago:
Univision was the No. 1 television network in America among the coveted adults 18-49 and adults 18-43 demos last week — just the third time that has happened. From July 2-8, the Spanish-language net beat CBS by 42%, ABC by 15%, NBC by 7% and Fox by 1% in 18-49. Among 18-34 the spread was more pronounced, with Univision outdelivering CBS by 150%, NBC by 60%, ABC by 57% and Fox by 16%.
Don't worry. When the NFL and MLB start leading off their broadcasts in Spanish, I'm sure there will be some sort of red button that you can press to let you listen to the English commentary.

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59 Comments:

Anonymous Azimus July 11, 2012 9:15 AM  

I had such hope for the Hispanics... you saw their kids play outside... they actually used the parks... but it seems that even they have been hypnotized by the siren's song of the glowing rectangular god...

Anonymous The other skeptic July 11, 2012 9:25 AM  

And in other news, Steve Sailer points out that Silicon Valley continues to be shockingly raciss and sexiss

Anonymous Salt July 11, 2012 9:56 AM  

No worries. The Earth has been cooling for 2000 years and they've found dark matter. And 15 minutes could save you $$ by switching to GEICO.

Blogger Galt-in-Da-Box July 11, 2012 9:58 AM  

Not surprising:
I would imagine the wetback population has tripled in the last three years, not just because they breed in litters, but 0bama is letting the commie-hugging bastards into the country like no tomorrow.

Anonymous Salt July 11, 2012 10:00 AM  

The Obama administration is moving to shut down nine Border Patrol stations across four states, triggering a backlash from local law enforcement, members of Congress and Border Patrol agents themselves.

Anonymous whtbread July 11, 2012 10:13 AM  

What's really interesting to ponder is the coming demographic and political wars between the Mexicans and Asians in California. The Asians don't have the obvious racial solidarity and mentality that the Mexicans have, but they have the money and a vested interest in keeping at least part of the state running to protect their investments.

Anonymous Mr. Nightstick July 11, 2012 10:14 AM  

OT:

Vox,

Have you seen this? An Idahodian pastor shows some backbone.

Word,
Mr. Nighstick

Anonymous mjb July 11, 2012 10:14 AM  

Are we considering the whites who don't watch cable TV anymore because of sites like Netflix, Hulu, and Youtube?

Anonymous cherub's revenge July 11, 2012 10:25 AM  

But I'm sure the Univision viewers are deeply and intimately attached to some words on paper written by dead white Englishmen more than two centuries ago:

It could happen, but you'd have to have it read on camera by a chica with tetas grandes.

Blogger Joshua_D July 11, 2012 10:25 AM  

Que es la problema, Vox?

Anonymous The other skeptic July 11, 2012 10:41 AM  

Integration has not worked well with that other group

Anonymous paradox July 11, 2012 11:00 AM  

I think this already happened with the MLB All Star Game most MVP, Melky Cabrera last night.

Anonymous Stilicho July 11, 2012 11:04 AM  

I, para uno, bienvenida a nuestros nuevos caciques mestizos

Blogger Joshua_D July 11, 2012 11:07 AM  

Toda su base es pertenecen a nosotros!

Blogger swiftfoxmark2 July 11, 2012 11:08 AM  

I would like to point out that last week was Independence Day week, no "prime" networks were showing anything new, and none of the basic cable channels were airing any new episodes as a result.

So of course the non-English speaking immigrates who celebrate their Independence Day on Cinco De Mayo (when they kicked the French out, something every other nation has done at one point in history) would all be watching Univision.

Anonymous MendoScot July 11, 2012 11:13 AM  

Joshua_D July 11, 2012 10:25 AM

Que es la problema, Vox?


El problema, la solución. I could never get my head around that one.

Anonymous Sojourner July 11, 2012 11:41 AM  

It could happen, but you'd have to have it read on camera by a chica with tetas grandes.

Well if there has to be some kind of silver lining...

Anonymous Cobre July 11, 2012 11:42 AM  

Problema is from the Greek 'problema,' which is masculine. There's a handful of those masculine words that retain their gender despite the -a. Hay que aprenderlos pronto, amigo.

Anonymous Kickass July 11, 2012 12:13 PM  

Would love to see a Samuri take on an Aztec warrior. White people could promote the fights and sell beer and popcorn. Why can't war be like a cage fight?

Anonymous JohnR July 11, 2012 12:15 PM  

Swiftfoxmark2: Cinco de Mayo is not the Mexican 4th of July. It celebrates the Battle of Puebla, a small skirmish in a war that Mexico eventually lost to the French in 1862.

Mexican Independence Day is September 16 and it was independence from Spain.

Anonymous Kickass July 11, 2012 12:16 PM  

Couldn't possibly turn out badly.

Anonymous The One July 11, 2012 12:17 PM  

Almost all of my white friends no longer have cable. Netflix, espn3, etc, etc

Anonymous scoobius dubious July 11, 2012 12:42 PM  

"Would love to see a Samurai take on an Aztec warrior"

Be over in 8 seconds. Aztecs didn't even fight with metal weapons. You'd have a pretty angry crowd on your hands.

But anyway, I thought borders were just imaginary, invisible lines over arbitrary regions that YOU CAN'T (sniffle) SEE FROM SPACE!! Cue some old Cat Stevens song.

If anybody wants me, I'll be in my room.

Anonymous Stickwick July 11, 2012 12:42 PM  

Speaking of failure to integrate, I note with a modicum of grim humor the latest example of the humanist culture eating itself like a snake chewing on its own tail. In Old Blighty: "Feminist Journo Charnged with Hate Crime for Helping Muslim Woman with Groceries."

OpenID ZT July 11, 2012 12:53 PM  

Have to agree with the poster on the linked site. 300 channels vrs the 1 or 2 Spanish speaking channels. Of course the Spanish one has lots of views. It has a pretty captive audience.

Anonymous rienzi July 11, 2012 1:18 PM  

I've watched Univision for ten years, on the advice of a spanish-speaking nephew, who said it was the quickest, and easiest way to learn the language.

Yes, it worked, but only at the expense of sitting thru some of the most god-awful programming ever conceived by the mind of man. Univision is pitched to viewers with IQ's slightly above that of chimps. Well, maybe a little below the chimps.

It's only redeeming feature is one of the news shows which features two of the most smoking hot women, wearing the shortest miniskirts you have ever seen, sitting on barstools, chirping out the day's headlines.

Anonymous Luke July 11, 2012 1:23 PM  

Serious question here: the more graphic profanity is largely banned from radio and TV in the U.S., last I heard. The rationale is that it serves not net positive public purpose, that every concept expressed by use of profanity is able to be expressed as or more eloquently in nonprofane English, and less offensively. Why could not the same rationale be used to ban Spanish language beyond the occasional adopted word or rare phrase?

I would certainly support this as long as there are as many as half a million or more Spanish speakers in the U.S.

Anonymous Victor July 11, 2012 1:50 PM  

This is predictable. English speakers have several channels to choose from. Spanish speakers, at least in New York, have only two.

Anonymous Kickass July 11, 2012 2:28 PM  

Right, again, I would love to see it.
And if someone does upset things and a heart gets ripped out it is all in good fun. Of course an Americam cowboy could come in and pull an Indianna Jones to bring the crowd to its feet. I am all for man vs man rather then armies. Moneymaker and quickly settled.

Anonymous Kickass July 11, 2012 2:32 PM  

Why can't she respect other womens' right to choose?

Anonymous Azimus July 11, 2012 2:33 PM  

scoobius dubious July 11, 2012 12:42 PM
Re:"Would love to see a Samurai take on an Aztec warrior"

Be over in 8 seconds. Aztecs didn't even fight with metal weapons. You'd have a pretty angry crowd on your hands.


If I remember correctly their regulars used wooden clubs lined with obsidian glass and woven cotton armor... heckuva stone-age soldier, but it must've been like LSU scrimmaging the local Freshman football squad when the Conquistadors rolled through.

Anonymous 11B July 11, 2012 2:43 PM  

Are we considering the whites who don't watch cable TV anymore because of sites like Netflix, Hulu, and Youtube?

...

Have to agree with the poster on the linked site. 300 channels vrs the 1 or 2 Spanish speaking channels. Of course the Spanish one has lots of views. It has a pretty captive audience.

...

This is predictable. English speakers have several channels to choose from. Spanish speakers, at least in New York, have only two.

You guys are missing the point. Of course there are more channels and choices for English speakers. This milestone is significant because something like this would never have been imagined. If you are forty or older, you will know what I mean. It is sort of like gay marriage. None of use back in 1980 would have ever dreamed of gay marriage. Likewise, we are pretty shocked at this news.

It never would have occurred to us back then that any language other than English would be featured so prominently in American life. We all thought America was intrinsically an English speaking nation and it was unthinkable that any other language would ever take hold.

Yes we knew there were first generation immigrants here and there. But you could have offered programming in German, Russian, Italian, Greek or dozens of other languages and you'd have never known they were there because you could have counted on two hands and feet the number of people watching.

The fact that Spanish language TV has ratings this high, this significant, means it has now become self supporting and will continue to grow because advertising dollars will flow and politicians and others will have to cater to it. So we are now de facto a bilingual nation. And this has all been accomplished without the consent or approval of people.

Blogger RobertT July 11, 2012 3:35 PM  

Maybe this will melt their brains.

Anonymous cherub's revenge July 11, 2012 4:48 PM  

Those of you on this thread saying there are only a few Spanish channels available must be living under a rock.

The big cable companies keep neighborhood billing offices (that they don't advertise to YT,some in Chicago don't even show up in yellow pages searches) just to accept money order payments from beaners. It wouldn't even shock me to find out their packages were cheaper.

And Mexicans watch a lot, a lot of TV.

It took me all of 15 seconds to find out how many Spanish channels were available in New York. RCN cable offers 44 in NY. One less than they offer here in Chicago.

Anonymous Suomynona July 11, 2012 5:04 PM  

Azimus July 11, 2012 9:15 AM
I had such hope for the Hispanics... you saw their kids play outside... they actually used the parks.


So do squirrels. But squirrels don't litter. Have you ever seen the aftermath in the parking lot of a Mexican store at the end of the day? They're filthy brutes accustomed to living in roach-infested shit holes.

But back to the Spanish TV channels. They love their soap operas or novelas as they're called, but all the actors are of the white, Spanish race, not the square, brown, butt-ugly indian type that infest US cities. Of course the programming is on the level of a retarded monkey, the people are unbelievably stupid.

I recently hired the crew who do the yard work in the neighborhood to cut down a dead tree in my yard. I watched them. El jefe cut into the trunk with his chain saw, then he slung a rope around it and they pulled and pulled and pulled. I was dumbfounded. They were pulling in the direction of the same side on which he had made the cut. There was no way in hell that cut was going to open up. I stopped them and told him to make a cut on the other side. The tree came down. Keep in mind, these are grown men who have been doing this work for years.

These are the people who are out-breeding everyone in this country and will eventually bring it down to their level. There is nothing in that indigent DNA of theirs that will enable them to come up to the white man's level. Society doesn't alter DNA, it reflects it.

Anonymous Idle Spectator July 11, 2012 5:48 PM  

And any day now, real real soon, these vibrantly vibrant immigrants will help revitalize the economy through wish and hugs. Mexico is screaming along with it's three nobel prizes, with just one in a hard science (Chemistry). They could be just like that scientist in Mexico, Andrés Manuel del Río who discovered the element Vanadium.

Oh wait, he was from Spain... Scratch that.

Anonymous Dr. Idle Spectator, Harvard Anthropology July 11, 2012 6:12 PM  

So I posted that comment, then right after popped over to Fred Reed's page to see a column with the same topic being discussed. That's just a freaky coincidence.

"I would like to think not, but what I want to think doesn’t seem to determine reality. (I regard this as a major design flaw of the universe.) How could I tell whether Mexicans were dull? It seemed to me that the alleged deficit, almost fifteen points, ought to be obvious. In fact I wondered whether a nation with a mean IQ of 86 could run airlines, hospitals, and telephone and internet companies. Which Mexico does."

Let me try to answer that question. How can Mexico be so backwards, and yet at the same time run things like airlines?

It's because Mexico is basically two cultures.
- The original Amerindian one, with Aztec, Mayans, and hundreds of other small ethnic groups
- European, more specifically Spaniard

Then over hundreds of years they mixed together, producing a gradient. That's why it is so corrupt. That's why the presidents of Mexico and the mayors of Mexico City always look so European.

The real question is, how long will it take Mexico to move completely to a first world European model? Who knows.


"Should anyone want a truly insightful exposition of why Mexico is as it is, read Mañana Forever, by Carlos Casttañeda, a former foreign minister of Mexico. His view, with which I entirely agree, is that Mexico is mostly a modern country creeping into the First World, but crippled by the culture of a century ago. See above."

Did it cover what I just said? Has anyone read this book? Anyone? Anyone?

Anonymous Kickass July 11, 2012 7:24 PM  

I have seen them play in the park and then as a family take a dump in my neighbor's driveway while walking home.

Blogger IM2L844 July 11, 2012 7:25 PM  

Should anyone want a truly insightful exposition of why Mexico is as it is, read Mañana Forever, by Carlos Casttañeda, a former foreign minister of Mexico.

I think somebody has their Castanedas mixed up. Carlos was the guy who wrote about Yaqui Indian shamanism. Jorge is the political science guy.

Anonymous WaterBoy July 11, 2012 7:58 PM  

Luke: "Serious question here...Why could not the same rationale be used to ban Spanish language beyond the occasional adopted word or rare phrase?"

Legislative issue. Because English is not the official sole language of the US -- not that people haven't been trying to get a Constitutional Amendment to that effect passed for the past 30-40 years or so. But until they do, there's no legal justification for banning Spanish or any other language; the ACLU would be all over the FCC if they tried otherwise.

A few smaller jurisdictions (state, local) have made Enlish the official language in their domain, but they don't control the airwaves; the Feds do.

BTW, even if Congress did make English the official language for the country, it would still have no effect on autonomous Indian nations; they would still be able to transmit in their own native tongues on their allocated airwaves...or in Spanish, if they chose.

Anonymous bob k. mando July 11, 2012 9:06 PM  

OT Fvck da Po-po, did the Ilk notice this back in June?
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2012/06/swat-team-throws-flashbangs-raids-wrong-home-due-to-open-wifi-network/

Anonymous Idle Spectator July 11, 2012 9:28 PM  

I have seen them play in the park and then as a family take a dump in my neighbor's driveway while walking home.

Indoor plumbing is just sewwwwww Eurocentric.


I think somebody has their Castanedas mixed up. Carlos was the guy who wrote about Yaqui Indian shamanism. Jorge is the political science guy.

Looks like it. From Amazon.com:
"Jorge G. Castañeda was born and raised in Mexico City. He received his B.A. from Princeton University and his Ph.D. from the University of Paris. He has been a professor of political science at the National Autonomous University of Mexico, a senior associate of the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace in Washington, D.C., and a visiting professor at Princeton University and the University of California at Berkeley. He was Mexico’s foreign minister from 2000 to 2003, and is now Global Distinguished Professor of Politics and Latin American Studies at New York University. He is a member of the board of Human Rights Watch and lives in New York and Mexico City."

Fix it Fred! Today, not mañana.

Blogger Wes July 11, 2012 10:57 PM  

And this has all been accomplished without the consent or approval of people.

This observation is right on the money, and can't be stated enough.

Anonymous p-dawg July 11, 2012 11:32 PM  

@11B: If people were so concerned with only using English in America, why isn't it the official language of the country? Can't really blame the Mexicans for that one, can you?

Anonymous The other skeptic July 11, 2012 11:41 PM  

I was in my local DHS and there was an old, tall, Spanish-speaking man there. He had a great mustache and he looked like a European.

I think I have more in common with him, even though I do not speak Spanish, than I do with the Mestizos coming across the border from Mexico.

Anonymous The other skeptic July 11, 2012 11:45 PM  

p-dawg says:

@11B: If people were so concerned with only using English in America, why isn't it the official language of the country? Can't really blame the Mexicans for that one, can you?


Well, dawg, in reality, the language of science, engineering, computing, law, aviation, and so forth, are English.

If those morons want to speak Spanish, they can, but it cuts them off from where the real action is.

Anonymous The other skeptic July 12, 2012 1:09 AM  

Who needs integration when you can get 700 rounds for $164

Anonymous WaterBoy July 12, 2012 1:16 AM  

Luke: "Serious question here...Why could not the same rationale be used to ban Spanish language beyond the occasional adopted word or rare phrase?"

Legislative issue. Because English is not the official language of the US -- not that people haven't been trying to get a Constitutional Amendment to that effect passed for the past 30-40 years or so. But until they do, there's no legal justification for banning Spanish or any other language; the ACLU would be all over the FCC if they tried otherwise.

A few smaller jurisdictions (state, local) have made Enlish the official language in their domain, but they don't control the airwaves; the Feds do.

BTW, even if Congress did make English the official language for the country, it would still have no effect on autonomous Indian nations; they would still be able to transmit in their own native tongues on their allocated airwaves...or in Spanish, if they chose.

Blogger LP 999/Eliza July 12, 2012 1:32 AM  

Haha!

Anonymous p-dawg July 12, 2012 2:26 AM  

@The Other Skeptic: Oh, I agree totally. But it's rather silly to chastise people for not speaking "the language of the country" when the country doesn't have an official language, isn't it? Besides, it really isn't hurting them as much as you imply - in fact, they're basically proving that no, they do NOT have to learn English, since governments and companies are falling all over themselves to deliver content in Spanish. At what point do they get to start complaining that the rest of us don't speak Spanish? When they're >=51% of the population?

Anonymous Idle Spectator, Mexican't July 12, 2012 3:26 AM  

Here's a dirty little secret of Latin American immigration: A lot of the people do not speak Spanish either.

That's right, they are illiterate in both English AND Spanish.

Mexico has about six million citizens who speak indigenous languages. That is the second-largest group in the Americas after Peru. However, a relatively small percentage of Mexico's population speaks an indigenous language compared to other countries in the Americas, such as Guatemala (42.8%), Peru (35%), and even Ecuador (9.4%), Panama (8.3%), Paraguay and Bolivia.

That Guatamalan figure is mindblowing. I wonder what the El Salvador figure is as it is right next door.

Anonymous cannibal_animal July 12, 2012 6:37 AM  

As a guy who speaks Spanish, lemme tell you that Univision programming is almost uniformly terrible. With that said, Spanish TV has hands-down the most beautiful women on television, and it has them in droves. The average US TV show has a bunch of gringa 6s, 7s, and a few 8s. In the Spanish language shows, unless the woman is supposed to be ugly, you can look forward to an 8 minimum, with 9s being common. The programming is definitely a 'by men, for men' gig.

Anonymous Mike T July 12, 2012 7:11 AM  

Here's one for Vox on Krugman,


The growth of the Internet will slow drastically, as the flaw in "Metcalfe's law"--which states that the number of potential connections in a network is proportional to the square of the number of participants--becomes apparent: most people have nothing to say to each other! By 2005 or so, it will become clear that the Internet's impact on the economy has been no greater than the fax machine's.

Anonymous Interested July 12, 2012 7:44 AM  

"you can look forward to an 8 minimum, with 9s being common"

So, I take it no greasy, dumpy, shovel-faced mestizas?

Anonymous john July 12, 2012 9:52 AM  

Sometimes I watch Spanish language TV. I'm not a latino. Basically I happened to watch 'Betty La Fea' and then 'La Reina del Sur' and so I keep clicking back now to see if there is anything good. TV itself sucks so this must be factored into the analysis.

'Betty La Fea' was an excellent spanish language telenovella. The Americanized 'Ugly Betty' sucked. Kind of overlooked the entire sense of the story and made Betty look absurd.

'La Reina del Sur' was an excellent telenovella based loosely on an actual female Narco Trafficante. I am sure the Americanized version if it ever comes would also be pure H-Wood drivel showing Jessica Alba winning fist fights with hulking gangsters.

(c)'La Academia' was a marvellous human realty show to me much more watchable than all the English language talent amateur talent shows that seemed to come about at the same time. It has gone over the top now.

Anonymous cannibal_animal July 12, 2012 10:35 AM  

Not a one, Interested. White as can be.

Anonymous TLM July 12, 2012 10:52 AM  

Mexican TV channels, like porn, is were you find the skinny women at. Meanwhile, in America we get network sitcoms like Mike & Molly. A show about some ugly fat assed couple. I see enough fat chicks throughout the course of my day that i certainly dont want to watch shows about them. Give me Univision's sexy chiccas any time.

Anonymous Luke July 13, 2012 5:34 PM  

So, put the channel to PruniVision, after muting. It's the same way I maximize utility from women's aerobics shows and bubblehead "news" readers, on the occasion I even turn on an idiot box.

Blogger Galt-in-Da-Box July 14, 2012 5:28 PM  

Looks like it'll be an all-greaser army enforcing the will of 0bama if HITLERyClit gets guns banned for him...
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