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Friday, August 10, 2012

Bring it on, by all means

UFC women's champion Ronda Rousey thinks women can enter the male octagon:
Fuel TV’s Ariel Helwani asked Ronda if she thinks we will ever see women fighting in the UFC:

"I think it’s a distinct possibility,” she said. … “Women are tough, women are clever. We’re going to find a way to get everywhere. So, you can’t stop us. We’ll be here at some point.”
I'm over 40. I haven't done any martial arts training in more than a decade. And I would not only agree to meet Ms Rousey in the Octagon, I would be willing to bet $10,000 that I would either knock her out or force her to quit in the first two minutes.

I very much hope that UFC president Dana White will give into the feminist pressure and permit Anderson Silva to fight Ronda Rousey. That would instantly silence all the ridiculous girl power talk that has been going on ever since the charade of the Riggs-King tennis match.

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Blogger Giraffe August 10, 2012 12:14 PM  

As long as it's a fight instead of a pageant. Knock a bitch out.

Anonymous JCclimber August 10, 2012 12:15 PM  

I"m tough and clever. And don't have much martial arts training. But I'm not stupid enough to think my toughness and cleverness, even a 60 point IQ advantage, is going to help me much in UFC.

It's like the princess roommate I had before getting married, who thought that taking "boxing" classes at the gym aerobics class meant she could beat me up. For her protection, I had to demonstrate to her that she had to shed that illusion quickly or she might get in trouble some night in San Francisco.

Still chuckle to think about how much hamster food must have been consumed to generate that idiocy.

Anonymous MattN August 10, 2012 12:23 PM  

Vox, I love ya but you are off base on this one. While I certainly would agree that any male fighter would beat her badly, that is not what she is talking about in the interview.

She is the women's champ in Strikeforce, the UFC doesn't have a woman's division. She is making the point that there will be a women's division in the UFC someday, not that girls will start fighting guys.

She is delusional to think that people will really care about women's mma, but she is not saying that women fighters can match the men.

Here is the interview link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfFD7S6k1Go&feature=player_embedded

Anonymous No_Limit_Bubba™ August 10, 2012 12:39 PM  

You could provide her with a handgun and (unless she has attended Roundtine's workshop!) I'd still bet on the dude.

Anonymous Other Josh August 10, 2012 12:44 PM  

Anderson Silva vs Ronda Rousey would be a HILARIOUS match to watch. Definitely worth a gathering of buddies and beer to watch the action.

Blogger IM2L844 August 10, 2012 12:53 PM  

Reminds me of a party I went to where where some girl was going on and on about her black belts in martial arts. At one point I lost my patience with her and bet her that she couldn't put me down no matter what she did. I promised her that I would not hit her or kick her as long as she didn't kick me in the nuts. I made it clear that if she did kick me in the nuts, it would be all the way on (I still wouldn't have really hurt her). Otherwise, she could do whatever she wanted. After some back and forth, the entire house full of party goers emptied onto the front lawn to watch this girl put me on the ground. It was an embarrassing display...for her. She couldn't land a single effective blow with foot or fist. It was like play fighting with a 6 year old. She fell down several times while repeatedly trying to perform a hip toss. Red faced, she finally gave up, shut up and left the party with everyone laughing at her. Next time I seen her, she invited me over to her place where, as she thought it was so clever to point out, she finally succeeded in putting me down on her bed several times without much of a struggle.

Blogger Joshua_D August 10, 2012 1:01 PM  

Apparently, y'all haven't seen enough movies lately and aren't really aware of the true power of the feminine physique.

Blogger Galt-in-Da-Box August 10, 2012 1:05 PM  

That's what you call No-Limit-Stupid!

Anonymous sick of it all August 10, 2012 1:07 PM  

"Women are tough, women are clever. We’re going to find a way to get everywhere. "

Men just have to make 'everywhere' first.

Blogger Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus August 10, 2012 1:08 PM  

"She is delusional to think that people will really care about women's mma"

What, are you crazy? Haven't you noticed how popular the WNBA is??

Anonymous duckman August 10, 2012 1:10 PM  

That would instantly silence all the ridiculous girl power talk that has been going on ever since the charade of the Riggs-King tennis match.

I thought that was sooo awesome in 1973 (or perhaps not). The 30 year old women's world champion manages to defeat a 55 year old man who had been prominent as a tennis player in the 1940s. That proved...what exactly?

Anonymous Clay August 10, 2012 1:16 PM  

It proved that Bobby Riggs sucked at tennis at age 55.

Anonymous JartStar August 10, 2012 1:19 PM  

Apparently, y'all haven't seen enough movies lately and aren't really aware of the true power of the feminine physique.

The Hollywood heroine that can defeat any man in hand to hand combat never looks close to real, hard trained, female athletes. The Olympics are a reminder of that fact.

Anonymous DrW August 10, 2012 1:22 PM  

It proved that Bobby Riggs made a bunch of money off that match!

Anonymous Stilicho August 10, 2012 1:25 PM  

As long as it's a fight instead of a pageant. Knock a bitch out.

Let's form a new league: KABOOM (Knock A Bitch Out Over Misandry). We may have trouble finding female competitors after the first round airs though.

Anonymous Vandelay August 10, 2012 1:29 PM  

She's bantamweight so technically she'd be fighting Dominick Cruz, not that that would make any difference. They could give her a class advantage and have her fight a flyweight and it wouldn't matter.

Blogger Giraffe August 10, 2012 1:34 PM  

It might be interesting if it two or more chicks vs. one guy. Wait, what were we talking about?

Anonymous Another MattN August 10, 2012 1:40 PM  

There's a thing called weight classes. Rhonda Rousey fights at 135 and Anderson Silva 185(I have no clue what Vox weighs), besides Anderson Silva has made virtually every high level MMA fighter in his weight class look like a joke, and a few at 205. Hell if they did fight she could probably run around the cage and last longer than Chris Leben did. I Cosign what MattN said. She just wants a women's division in the UFC so she can get paid more, it's a foolish idea cause the UFC's roster is bloated already and there's no depth in women's MMA.

I'll add this, Rhonda Rousey is about as badass as a gal gets, not that she could compete with male MMA fighters. It's not fair to compare her to some gal who goes to cardio kickboxing once a week and is delusional enough to think she could hold her own against a man.

Anonymous Baseball Savant August 10, 2012 1:41 PM  

No way Anderson Silva puts down Karin Murphy! NO WAY BABY!!!!!!

Anonymous Michael Maier August 10, 2012 1:42 PM  

Yeah, Matt seems to be right on this one. It sure doesn't sound at all like this girl wants to take on any men in the Octagon.

Of course any female UFC division would have to be subsidized just like the WNBA. And it would probably be just as painful and boring to watch to boot.

Anonymous WinstonWebb August 10, 2012 1:44 PM  

Of course any female UFC division would have to be subsidized just like the WNBA.

Or NCAA athletics.

Blogger Joshua_D August 10, 2012 1:44 PM  

You know, there may be some merit to the idea of just randomly hitting people in the face. I think we need a good collective reality check.

Oh, you're worried about a college degree? How about a punch in the face! SMACK!

Oh, you're worried about Social Security 15 years from now, grandpa? FACE PUNCH!

Oh, you don't have the latest iCrap? SMACK! POW! BAM!

Anonymous Michael Maier August 10, 2012 1:44 PM  

Female delusion is funny, though. I wrestled my girlfriend to the bed once without even trying and she said she was really struggling. I just laughed at her, which I think turned her on even more. I didn't care either way, I had a female under me.

And were I not a Christian, I really think I'm sick enough of female delusions to the point where I'd punch out the next female that threatened me physically.

Anonymous VD August 10, 2012 1:47 PM  

I'm in Silva's class and I'd rather not fight him.

Matt seems to be right on this one. It sure doesn't sound at all like this girl wants to take on any men in the Octagon.

She's not the one pushing for it. Apparently some of her more delusional fans want to see her take on Silva.

Anonymous JohnR August 10, 2012 1:47 PM  

I have to agree with MattN. She said women would get to the UFC in a woman's division, not that they would fight men.

The commentators did not agree because there are not enough women to fight in a women's UFC division.

Sorry Vox, I think you are misunderstanding her.

Anonymous waguy August 10, 2012 1:53 PM  

She has done ok against males in judo around her weight (competitive but not high level males).

That being said she would be destroyed by ,most amateur males in mma, to say nothing of pros.

She crushes women in mma because they have no answer to her judo, and always give up an arm for an
armbar. Her stand up its below basic outside of grappling.

Blogger finndistan August 10, 2012 1:54 PM  

Other Josh,

Don't bother buying a sixpack.

A 33cl can of beer will do.

Maybe you can even get to get a sip before the fight is over.

Anonymous Knarf August 10, 2012 1:55 PM  

Why does she feel the need to go into the octagon and fight a man, mano a mano? Why not do what women have always done: marry him, and then rip his 'nads off?

Anonymous waguy August 10, 2012 1:55 PM  

Last time I type a reply in my phone.

Anonymous Stingray August 10, 2012 2:00 PM  

And it would probably be just as painful and boring to watch to boot.

What if it involved jello?

Blogger swiftfoxmark2 August 10, 2012 2:03 PM  

I've never had a much easier time in high school wrestling than when I had to take on a girl.

Anonymous Stickwick August 10, 2012 2:04 PM  

I'm a seriously strong woman, but I have no delusions about my capabilities. I can't even put up any meaningful resistance when my husband and I play-fight. It's over every single time in two seconds flat, and he's not even trying. Rousey probably knows better, but if she's as delusional as her fans, then a match with some guy would probably be a good thing. Probably should be someone in her weight class, so that nobody cries foul that the guy only won because he had a weight advantage. But either way, it would hopefully put an end to a schtick I absolutely detest in movies, which is the stick-armed chick beating the hell out of 200-lb guys. Then we can just go back to chicks with guns.

Anonymous realmatt August 10, 2012 2:11 PM  

You really read into that one..

Spacebunny busy today?

Anonymous Kyle In Japan August 10, 2012 2:15 PM  

I don't understand why women get into stuff like fighting or bodybuilding. The more you invest in that, the less attractive you'll be to men. It's the Brienne Of Tarth Effect.

Anonymous Fat useless oaf August 10, 2012 2:31 PM  

I dig chicks with cauliflower ears and shins like birch bark.

Blogger ajw308 August 10, 2012 2:41 PM  

So, she want's to be a ring girl?

Anonymous Stickwick August 10, 2012 3:11 PM  

I don't understand why women get into stuff like fighting or bodybuilding.

Back in the 80s, women's bodybuilding was pretty cool. Check out old photos of Rachel McLish and Lisa Lyons. But "women's" bodybuilding nowadays? Total freakshow.

As for why women do stuff like that, as a lifelong tomboy, I can offer a little insight from my own perspective. Growing up, I didn't like girls or doing girl things. I found boys very appealing, I admired the things they did, and just wanted to be part of their world. I got into weight lifting, judo, shooting sports, science, and other guy stuff so I could be in that world, where I felt more at home. I suspect the same is true for most jock women who enjoy doing guy things. There's also the weird solipsistic projection thing women do. We find toughness and muscles attractive in men, so we sometimes make the mistake of thinking men will find those things attractive in us.

Anonymous Stingray August 10, 2012 3:19 PM  

I'll second Stickwick's entire comment. Also, not all men find muscle unappealing on a woman. I love to lift. I, too, am a life long tomboy and the gym gives me a place to be acceptably aggressive. Growing up I could do it on the sports field. It's not so easy to get to an adult sport now, I don't much like playing with other women and, understandably, men often don't like playing co-ed. At the gym I can do it completely on my own. Thank goodness, my husband likes the muscles I have formed as he knows (as he lifts a great deal as well) the discipline involved in achieving that and he admires it. That being said, I don't look like the testosterone filled women bodybuilders one sees today.

Blogger Professor Hale August 10, 2012 3:27 PM  

glad you brought up Riggs-King. I was thinking that another similar charade would be offered.

Anonymous Wendy August 10, 2012 3:36 PM  

It proved that Bobby Riggs sucked at tennis at age 55.

Nah, he also had to defend out to the doubles lines while King's was the normal single court. "All things being equal" could not be used to describe that match.

Anonymous Outlaw X August 10, 2012 3:37 PM  

She said they were clever. She would just run away around the ring for 2 minutes then quit and go get her nails done.

Anonymous Buckeyecopperhead August 10, 2012 3:43 PM  

I believe most men would watch a woman vs. woman match if it involved baby oil and flimsy bikinis. Otherwise, doubt it.

Blogger HerewardMW August 10, 2012 3:47 PM  

And it would probably be just as painful and boring to watch to boot.

What if it involved jello?

WNBA with jello? How would that work?

Anonymous Anonymous August 10, 2012 3:57 PM  

you guys are weird.

You really want to see Ike Turner in the octogon?

Or just trying to prove a point?

Me, I'd rather watch this: Google(Michelle Jenneke Dancing Sexy as Hell at Junior World Championships in Barcelona 2012 )

Anonymous E. PERLINE August 10, 2012 4:06 PM  

When you're retired you may still need income. At that time, Bobby Riggs had a deal with builders of Condo Apts. at Winding Lakes, Sunrise Florida. He promoted tennis there and he got confidental payouts from the builders. He also got a free 2/2 apartment which he promptly sold.

The physical part of the fire-fighter exam was greatly modified for females because because they have only half the upper body strength of males.

But we shouldn't feel too cocky. A chimpanzee with only half the body weight of a human male can obliterate any human male easily.

Anonymous oregon mouse August 10, 2012 4:21 PM  

I did 6 years of judo/jujitsu training on and off till I was 25. I enjoyed it a lot and I did well in competitions against other women. I also held my own in practice matches against men in the class (obviously none of them going full strength). One of the guys said he thought I was freakishly strong for a woman, as strong as a 16 yr old boy. I was a 25 yr old woman and he compared me to a teenage boy. I felt pretty pleased with this compliment.
I don't like this woman's bragging because its very misleading to women who know nothing about fighting. Some of the more naive will take a few self defense classes, or none at all and think they are safe walking down that dark alley because they have the right attitude. I think young women should be encourage to take martial arts classes but not because they will necessarily be able to fight anyone off. Marial arts will buy them time to scream incessantly before blacking out or maybe hit a guy's neck and take off running while he's dizzy. That's reality. It just doesn't make a good movie.

Blogger "1951" August 10, 2012 4:21 PM  

A chimpanzee with only half the body weight of a human male can obliterate any human male easily.

Hand to hand? Yes. But only kids fight hand to hand. Men use lawyers and guns to settle their differences. I guarantee I can outshoot any chimp that ever lived in pistol, trap, or longarm competition.

Then again, a chimp could theoretically fire four guns at once...

Blogger Spacebunny August 10, 2012 4:25 PM  

I think young women should be encourage to take martial arts classes but not because they will necessarily be able to fight anyone off. Marial arts will buy them time to scream incessantly

Actually, the most important thing it will give them is a realistic sense for just how weak they actually are.

Anonymous Major Moron August 10, 2012 4:27 PM  

We already saw a woman fight in the UFC. Clay Guida vs. Gray Maynard. Once was enough.

Anonymous realmatt August 10, 2012 4:27 PM  

"But we shouldn't feel too cocky. A chimpanzee with only half the body weight of a human male can obliterate any human male easily."

I suppose if you keep your wits about you, a knockout kick or punch MIGHT be possible if the chimp doesn't get it's hands on you, but yes there is something incredible about a small creature capable of removing entire body parts.

Anyone see those pictures of the hairless chimp? He's ripped!

Anonymous Stickwick August 10, 2012 4:30 PM  

I guarantee I can outshoot any chimp that ever lived in pistol, trap, or longarm competition.

But how would you fare against a chimp in an actual shootout? This one managed to run off a bunch of armed soldiers with his mad AK-47 skillz.

Anonymous oregon mouse August 10, 2012 4:33 PM  

"Actually, the most important thing it will give them is a realistic sense for just how weak they actually are."

that's why I have a CHL. God made all men but Samuel Colt made them equal.

Blogger Desert Cat August 10, 2012 4:41 PM  

IM2L844, the last part is very LOL!

Blogger Vox August 10, 2012 4:44 PM  

The King-Riggs match was actually fair. The later Connors-Navratilova match wasn't.

"In recent years, a persistent urban legend has arisen, particularly on the Internet, that the rules were modified for the match so that Riggs had only one serve for King's two, and that King was allowed to hit into the doubles court area. This is false: the match was played under the normal rules of tennis. These rules were applied to the Connors v Navratilova match in 1992, which may have contributed to the confusion."

Blogger Desert Cat August 10, 2012 4:48 PM  

IM2L844, the last part is very LOL!

Anonymous Hubba Hubba August 10, 2012 5:10 PM  

Women are gonna get in the Octagon and have pillow fights in their bras and panties?

I have no problem with that!

Anonymous Sojourner August 10, 2012 6:30 PM  

Pssh. All woman should get into the weight room. Most women don't do bodybuilding today but instead do figure athlete competition where they usually look incredible. Besides you don't get an awesome looking rear without squats.

Blogger The Aardvark August 10, 2012 7:08 PM  

That would instantly silence all the ridiculous girl power talk that has been going on ever since the charade of the Riggs-King tennis match. --VD

No it wouldn't. It would be a fluke. He cheated. She was in the middle of shark week. Insert other excuse as required.

Anonymous JI August 10, 2012 7:31 PM  

The feminists would demand that the man be hamstrung in some way before a fight, maybe literally, maybe through chemical emasculation or ...

Anonymous scoobius dubious August 10, 2012 9:00 PM  

The professional circuit aside, I think it's a good idea for women to have a bit of martial arts training. Not because they think they're going to kick Sonny Chiba's ass, though. For safety considerations, they don't have to win, they just have to present a credible deterrent, buy time, become situationally aware which reduces risk, that sort of thing. They're not gonna become Queen of the Streets, but it might help them to stay safer.

As a kid I was a puny nerd who had the misfortune of growing up in a street-fighting urban culture. That wasn't fun. Then I took a year of Taekwando; only a year, and I wasn't any good at it. But it taught me a lot of basic principles about the human body, speed, balance, mechanics, etc that I applied to more "normal" bullshit street fight style. It was a lot more useful than the rudimentary boxing lessons my uncles gave me, which weren't good for much. I didn't actually ever fight using anything that looked remotely like Taekwando, I just absorbed some helpful tips from it. Afterwards I still wasn't a tough-guy, but I could win a fight, or force a standoff, much of the time. More important, I learned to carry myself in a way that was in itself a deterrent: I no longer looked like a mark, so things didn't start to begin with. Most important, I just got the hell out of that environment at the first opportunity.

Anonymous Wendy August 10, 2012 9:06 PM  

The King-Riggs match was actually fair. The later Connors-Navratilova match wasn't.

Yup, my mistake. Though, Navratilova is pretty much a man anyway...

Anonymous Outlaw X August 10, 2012 9:34 PM  

I think young women should be encourage to take martial arts classes but not because they will necessarily be able to fight anyone off. Marial arts will buy them time to scream incessantly

SB, Other than a Ruger or Taurus, Krav Maga gives a woman a good chance against the usual male asshole. Even "Janet Napolitano". If she wasn't once a man I'll kiss Vox (eeeek!)

Blogger Carnivore August 10, 2012 10:36 PM  

"Next time I seen her, she invited me over to her place where, as she thought it was so clever to point out, she finally succeeded in putting me down on her bed several times without much of a struggle."

The true power of women.

Anonymous Cat McClusky August 11, 2012 12:03 AM  

It's simply all about business.

Get the daffy, hysterical, impressionable "better half" of the human species rooting for their own; then there is that more revenue too be acquired.

When big bucks are involved the guys will happily grab their ankles so they will get paid too.

Anonymous AdognamedOp August 11, 2012 3:37 AM  

UFC is not sport. It's 'bread and circus' brutality. People beating one another about the head, causing brain damage and shit. That aint sport.
I dont understand how mr Day ,with all his historical knowledge, can not see that UFC is more a symptom of a dying civilization than an evolution of sport.

Anonymous Michael August 11, 2012 4:21 AM  

VD, I think Cyborg Santos can put up a good fight with you. She'll still lose, I'd bet, but still --she's scary.

Blogger IM2L844 August 11, 2012 5:51 AM  

IM2L844, the last part is very LOL!

To be fair, she was about a foot shorter and more than 100 pounds lighter than I was, but for that last part she demonstrated an extraordinary degree of skill and determination. My hat was off to her.

Anonymous Rantor August 11, 2012 6:42 AM  

@Scoobius,

My experience exactly... took two years of Kenpo Karate and have only gotten into one fight since. Despite it being Karate, there was good emphasis on how to fall and recover. Probably the most useful part of the course. I have only been in one fight since and did just fine, but have had several falls and witnesses are amazed as I still get right back up. No waiting for someone to help me, no pause on the ground.

Blogger LP 999/Eliza August 11, 2012 9:10 AM  

Oh brother, really?

Sure, have her fight that manly fight she so desires.
I don't' understand women who want to be bruised and bloodied...

Anonymous Acid Gay Facist August 11, 2012 4:37 PM  

AdognamedOp, shut up faggot and go finger your pussy.

Anonymous NewAnubis August 11, 2012 5:46 PM  

The amount of money and training invested for these gals to fight competitively is simply economic stupidity in disguise. For half the cost and time, a regimen of psychotherapy and finishing school would be far more productive. Crowbars are freely available to remove shoulder chips or a beatdown on national television. A woman with a theory is never at the mercy of one with an experience.

Anonymous Spectator August 11, 2012 6:01 PM  

Professor Hale August 10, 2012 3:27 PM

glad you brought up Riggs-King. I was thinking that another similar charade would be offered.


Sakuraba-Rousey?

Buckeyecopperhead August 10, 2012 3:43 PM

I believe most men would watch a woman vs. woman match if it involved baby oil and flimsy bikinis. Otherwise, doubt it

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Anonymous DarthToolpodicus August 12, 2012 1:16 PM  

"But we shouldn't feel too cocky. A chimpanzee with only half the body weight of a human male can obliterate any human male easily."

That's not quite correct. Everyone has heard the old saw about how primates are (insert number here) 6, 8, 10 times stronger that an comparable body weight human. Those numbers are derived from old measurements that are flawed. Overall, some primates are somewhat stronger than humans of the same size, but what makes them dangerous is how that strength is distributed.

The one area that primates are unquestionably much much stronger than an average human is Grip Strength: makes sense considering what they do with their hands and feet.

Chimps generally attack people by biting and using their grip strength to hook and pull off soft parts of the body. They basically maul people, often focusing on the head and face.

Anonymous DonReynolds August 13, 2012 11:06 AM  

My uncle Paul was a cab driver in Nashville for 43 years, lifelong Teamster, and served on the city cab board. The rules did not permit women to drive a taxi cab in Nashville at night, which was for their own protection, it being dangerous enough for men to drive at night. Judge Tom Wiseman heard the complaint from a woman driver that she had a civil right to drive a cab at night and she wanted to. The judge told my uncle that it was her civil right to do so and he was forced to agree to the rule change by the cab board. In less than three weeks, she was found next to her cab raped and horribly murdered (and robbed). My uncle went back to the judge and informed him that she had received her civil rights and now was dead.

It does not matter how rough and tough the diesel dykes think they are, in a physical contest with men they are at a decided disadvantage and there will always be men who would be happy to demonstrate that fact once again.

Anonymous JP (real one) August 13, 2012 12:16 PM  

I'm probably similar to Vox: early 40s, a little martial arts training in the past (both Jiu Jitsu and Shotokan), in good physical shape. I'm a bit smaller--around 170 and would cut to 155 (lightweight) if I were a fighter.

I'd fancy my chances with Rhonda as long as we're on our feet, but the lady is an Olympic gold medal judo wizard. Sure, she wouldn't beat her male equivalent, which is the main point of this. But I'm afraid most of us would be out of our element once the fight is in the clinch or on the ground...just like we would be against Serena Williams on a tennis court.

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