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Wednesday, August 08, 2012

Republican VP pick

It's supposedly down to three:
We can say with a high degree of confidence that Mitt Romney’s vice-presidential pick has largely come down to three men: former Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty, U.S. Sen. Rob Portman, and House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan. And it’s more than possible that Romney has already made up his mind. All three VP finalists bring something different to the table. Pawlenty is the loyal outsider, who would enable a Romney-Pawlenty ticket to run as former governors vowing to take on Washington; Pawlenty also potentially would add some blue-collar appeal to the ticket. Portman would be the insider, someone who knows the ways of Washington and who could help govern starting on Day 1. And Ryan would be the crusader, who wants to substantially transform America’s entitlement programs and who would excite a good portion of the GOP’s conservative base. Indeed, Ryan has emerged a VERY REAL possibility, but he also brings the most risk. If Romney selects him, it’s more than conceivable that the dominant campaign discussion in the fall won’t be the economy -- but rather the deficit and Medicare. Of course, there was already a good chance the Ryan plan will get plenty attention regardless of Romney’s VP pick.
I don't think it will be any of the three. I think it will be Rubio, despite his repeated denials of interest in leaving the Senate. Being a Republican and therefore fearful of raciss, Romney will want something to circumvent Obama's inevitable portrayal of the Republican pair as two rich white guys. If it's Pawlenty, he's a joke and we'll know Romney intends to tank the election. Ryan would be a more serious choice, but wouldn't really buy Romney anything since people already assume Captain Underoos knows what he's doing when it comes to financial rapine. Portman is a Bushnik and doesn't bring Romney anything he doesn't already have, so unless he's got some sort of deal with the Houston Mafia, I can't see him getting any real benefit out of that option.

So, I expect Rubio.

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Anonymous Vitus_Bering August 08, 2012 6:45 PM  

Agreed, or someone totally unexpected. I believe I am first.

Anonymous The OASF August 08, 2012 6:48 PM  

It's going to Pawlenty, Vox. Deep down, you just know it's true.

Blogger Astrosmith August 08, 2012 6:50 PM  

Sarah Palin again, FTW! You betcha!

Anonymous Susan August 08, 2012 6:54 PM  

Just too cute how NBC is still trying to be relevant./

Slightly OT: Did anyone see the story today about the guy who ordered a flat screen TV from Amazon but got an assault rifle by mistake? Idiot called the cops. Of course, he does reside in DC.

Anonymous The OASF August 08, 2012 6:57 PM  

General Betray-us in the running? Thoughts anyone?

Anonymous scoobius dubious August 08, 2012 7:04 PM  

All things being equal, Pawlenty is a bad bet simply because he has a weak-sounding name that makes you uncertain how to pronounce it, sort of like Dukakis (this is gonna sound stupid, but, well, you know...). "Romney/Pawlenty". Two long "ee"s at the end. Doesn't sound like a winner's title, sounds girly. "Romney/Portman" is value-neutral; not bad, but not particularly good, either. Dull. Besides, I follow domestic politics slightly more carefully than the average drone, and I've never heard of Portman, don't know who or what he is. (In contrast, I knew very well who Sarah Palin was, many months before the VP pick.) He could be good or bad, dunno, but the very fact that I've never heard of him suggests he lacks spark.

"Romney/Ryan" sounds good. Agree with him or not, Paul Ryan is a smart guy (which anyone can tell after hearing him for about 90 seconds), and he's got a bit of bite in his demeanor. But mostly, Ryan is a salt-of-the-earth type name, and "Romney/Ryan" just _sounds_ good. Ryan already has a national profile.

"Romney/Rubio" also sounds good, it has a pleasing rhythm. I am against pandering to Hispanics, but for sheer aesthetic quality, Romney/Rubio places a strong second behind Romney/Ryan. But of course, Rubio is a neophyte, Rubio is a foreign-symp, and choosing Rubio (because he brings neither extensive experience nor intellectual firepower to the ticket, merely some mediocre charisma and of course, his sacred Latino-hood) would indicate, more strongly than anything else, a formal apology for Romney's being white. This would be an existential catastrophe of major proportions, an official recognition that whiteness is in its essence illegitimate: basically an official recognition that this country has ceased to exist. But I suppose it might help Romney lock up Florida, now one of our foreign satellite alien-nations.

"Romney will want something to circumvent Obama's inevitable portrayal of the Republican pair as two rich white guys."

He's too cowardly and intellectually inert to do this, but if Romney were smart he would turn that into a tar-baby. He would let Obama begin his subliminal race-war, like Alexander Nevsky drawing the Tatars out onto the ice, then he would turn the tables and make this election a stand to re-establish white America as the spine, indeed, as the actual true identity, of America, and make the whole thing explode in Obama's foreign face. But he's not bright enough, or courageous enough, to do this.

Might as well make this stand now; in two more election cycles it will no longer be possible, and the only realistic options will be some form of partition or secession, a coup, or the official dissolution of the USA as any sort of entity with any more meaning than a parking lot.

Go into the white, Mitt, go towards the white!

Yeah, like that'll happen.

Anonymous Jo Momma August 08, 2012 7:12 PM  

Condi.

Anonymous Godfrey August 08, 2012 7:21 PM  

The Bilderbergs picked Rubio months ago.

Anonymous Salt August 08, 2012 7:36 PM  

Would be entertaining, especially at WND given Farah's previous commentary (and any column Vox might produce concerning a Romney/Rubio ticket).

Two candidates for the job are mentioned over and over again – two wonderful, charismatic public servants whose only problem is they are not constitutionally eligible to be president.

They are Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida and Gov. Bobby Jindal of Louisiana.

Don’t get me wrong. I like both of these guys. If I were eligible to vote in Florida or Louisiana, I would vote to re-elect them. I would support either one for almost any job in America. But there is one job for which they are, by chance of birth, 100 percent, totally and inarguably ineligible to hold office – and that is the presidency of the United States.


The Dems would have a field day with the fodder laid at their feet given all the Obama eligibility profiling.

Would be pure comedy.

Anonymous paradox August 08, 2012 7:41 PM  

The OASF August 08, 2012 6:48 PM

It's going to Pawlenty, Vox. Deep down, you just know it's true.



That's not true... that's imposable...

Blogger Jehu August 08, 2012 7:44 PM  

Rand Paul would be the best choice, because he would inherit a fair fraction of his father's support. When you consider the fraction of presidents that expire in office, there's a nontrivial probability that any vp becomes the president.

Anonymous Alexamenos August 08, 2012 7:52 PM  

Yep. I'm betting on a name that ends with an '_o'.

Comprendes?

Anonymous RC August 08, 2012 7:56 PM  

That Rubio is constitutionally ineligible might yet be a problem for the captain on the R side of the ruling duopoly.

Blogger tz August 08, 2012 8:10 PM  

Ron Paul would be the best choice. It would only be a bully pulpit, but that might be most effective. And then there would always be the hope some tragedy would strike and succession would be invoked. That slim possibility would give me enough pause to consider actually voting for the GOP ticket. Romney could then lie more credibly that he would take on the financial system with Mr. End-the-Fed next to him. And he would boost the pro-life credentials too. And balancing the budget. And probably deliver Texas and a few other states - I'm not sure of the full electoral calculus.

Anonymous SouthTX August 08, 2012 8:22 PM  

Let me be the Vice President. Born in Florida, raised in Texas and my kids are a quarter Mexican. Gun control means my son's are currently going to the ranch with their buddies to pick up a tractor, but grab the guns to go and plan on target practice while there. Plus we think a mexican lion comes through from time to time. We've seen plenty of proof. Makes them better shots. My whole Family on my Wifes side are big supporters of The Dr. Paul. Just don't expect me to be PC or tolerate dumbasses.

Anonymous SouthTX August 08, 2012 8:35 PM  

I came from a fairly liberal family and I am a proud blacksheep. Dr. Paul is one of a very few politicians I trust. I have voted for him for our rep since I could vote. I have son's. Why should I want them risked in somebody elses fight? I would prefer they marry sweet young Ladies who give us Grandkids I can spoil and give back as a cosmic payback for what me and mom went through getting them to that point. Tradition brings balance to the force.

Anonymous Van August 08, 2012 8:39 PM  

Virginia Governor Bob McDonnell.

Blogger James Dixon August 08, 2012 8:40 PM  

> Being a Republican and therefore fearful of raciss, Romney will want something to circumvent Obama's inevitable portrayal of the Republican pair as two rich white guys.

In which case he should select Rice, possibly after opening offering the position to Hillary.

> Sarah Palin again, FTW! You betcha!

I'd love to see it, but I don't think he'd even consider it.

> Rand Paul would be the best choice,

Ron would be the best choice. Rand would be second best.

Anonymous zen0 August 08, 2012 8:42 PM  

I think it will be Rubio,

What, are there no one-legged afro-hispano crack whores in America?

Anonymous jack August 08, 2012 9:03 PM  

I would, first, like to see Rand Paul as VP. After that Jindal followed by Ryan. OK, either Jindal or Ryan would be a good ckoice but Rand first, if Romney is small enough. Any real establishment type would, as Vox indicated, a setup to tank the election.

The only good thing, if it is that, were Obama win then, should the USA survive another four years, is that a really hard lesson will have be handed out. But, like taking the horse to water, would enough learn the lesson?

I don't think America would survive four more of Obama. He is obviously a Manchurian candidate in place to complete the dismemberment of our country. He should have been impeached many times over for his illegal acts. The congress should have defunded Obama care long before now. Whats all this symbolic repeal crap with a senate all ready and willing to not pass it as well? I will answer: Too many traitors with too much baggage being held over their heads to do anything even remotely like wants best for the country.

IMO

Thank You....

Anonymous hoosiertoo August 08, 2012 9:04 PM  

Portman might be able to deliver Ohio. After the crap the GOP elite tossed at Paul - raciss, joo hater, etc - Paul would actually be a drag on the ticket.
Pawlenty would seal the deal. I'd definitely vote Obama then, just for spite.

Anonymous jack August 08, 2012 9:04 PM  

if Romney is small enough.

Darn it! If Romney is SMART enough...

Anonymous jack August 08, 2012 9:07 PM  

with reference to the longer comment above. I must have clicked too quickly and was not able to edit before it was published. No excuse, Sir. It won't happen again, Sir. [but probably will]

The shame of it all....

Anonymous Brother August 08, 2012 9:10 PM  

I'm down here in Jindal land. He isn't any better than the rest of those mentioned. They just gave state money to a tech company to set up shop. What gets announced is the creation of jobs, but what gets done is the creation of HB1 visa's for his fellow Indians. As a group, Indians are very tight down here and I've watched them bring family over time and time again.

Of course, I could say more, but one never knows who's listening...

Anonymous Cheddarman August 08, 2012 9:15 PM  

Vox, you got it all wrong. Here are my 3

Bob Dole. The Republicans are the Stupid Party, gotta do something epically stupid. On the flip side, it cements the old white people vote.

Lindsay Graham, for the closet fag and somewhat flamboyantly and out of the closet gay vote.

The Prince of Darkness. He already owns the Republicans, might as well make it official.

Anonymous Anonymous August 08, 2012 9:42 PM  

Uh hello.... Mcfly.....

Presidential candidates NEVER pick anyone of substance or strength. They are all narcissists and pick a milquetoast to not show them up. I would be surprised if it was any one of strength.

Anonymous Johnny Reb August 08, 2012 9:51 PM  

Vox, really?!?

Comeon? Jo Mamma is right, it'll be Condi. The Repubs will pander to the we ain't raciss" base. Forget the rumor mill of her lesbo bonafides. Day late and a dollar short, that's the Repubs for ya...

Stillichio is right, we need an Ilk forum for us who want to escape this nightmare! Who's up for setting this up???

Anonymous zen0 August 08, 2012 9:52 PM  

Presidential candidates NEVER pick anyone of substance or strength. They are all narcissists and pick a milquetoast to not show them up.

Au contraire. They know enough to pick somebody who nobody in their right mind would want them to be replaced by after an assassination. There are no guarantees, of course, but it is best to play the odds.

Blogger Astrosmith August 08, 2012 10:00 PM  

Might be Portman, b/c I'm getting GOP emails about him appearing with Mittens in the next few days.

Blogger JD Curtis August 08, 2012 10:20 PM  

I'm thinking it's going to be Rubio.

That being said, an interesting sideshow is currently being offered for diversion...

Petraeus Being Considered as Romney Running Mate, Says Obama

Anonymous MikeH August 08, 2012 10:20 PM  



What, are there no one-legged afro-hispano crack whores in America?


I think they found one but she was not pro-life so she couldn't be VP.

Anonymous rantor August 08, 2012 10:28 PM  

romney increasingly reminds me of Dole and McCain. He needs the exciting VP. It may not help much. If the market doesn't crash and unemploymnet is said to be around 8% (it is over 20%) who knows, this electionis still Obamas to loseand the press is over 80% anti-underoos

the other problem, must be careful about bringing in a Senator, winning the Senate must be part of Romney's objective... senator underoos is notw going to cooperate with president underoos even if their underwear matches.

Blogger Desert Cat August 08, 2012 10:53 PM  

Romney is in trouble with a significant portion of the GOP base, similar to the difficulty McCain had. It took a Palin to make me swallow my disgust with him. What would it take to get the conservative base onboard with a Romney ticket?

Certainly not Pawlenty, Rubio nor Portman. Rand Paul would certainly stir the pot for a good portion of the disaffected conservatives.

If it is Pawlenty or Portman, the GOP plans to lose. If it is Rubio, they plan to try to win by abandoning the conservative base (dubious proposition). Rand Paul or another yet-unnamed fiscal conservative means they're serious about winning. Ron Paul is too much to consider given how badly they've demonized him. Too many of the conservative base have no idea why they hate him. They are just told to do so.

Anonymous Other Josh August 08, 2012 10:54 PM  

That white bread needs some mustard... not mayonnaise!

Blogger Desert Cat August 08, 2012 10:54 PM  

Personally, I want Romney to lose and the GOP to gain the Senate.

Gridlock. It's a good thing!

Anonymous dh August 08, 2012 11:37 PM  

> Rand Paul would certainly stir the pot for a good portion of the
> disaffected conservatives.

True, but he would also turn off the neocon wing, which would probably just sit out, or, vote Obama. Obama is much closer to a neo-con than anyone named Paul...

Anonymous redlegben August 09, 2012 12:02 AM  

Paul Ryan would be the winning formula. Midwestern. Looking at the map, you need a middle America guy to excite the base in those swing states. He's been tested with his budget proposal on a national spotlight. He's also relatively young and good looking.

Anonymous The other skeptic August 09, 2012 12:17 AM  

Who cares about a VP pick. Hitler on wine bottles is a more important issue to those who want you to remember certain things.

Anonymous Noah B. August 09, 2012 1:10 AM  

Unless Rubio has something in his past that makes him vulnerable, he is the logical and likely choice. Considering other recently discussed VP candidate possibilities, Rice would be a disaster for Romney and would only serve to enervate the conservative base while failing to win over the black vote. Rand Paul isn't from a swing state and doesn't seem to have as broad an appeal as Rubio.

Rubio has already shown himself to be a skilled compromiser (not intended as a compliment to him) and opportunist, which makes me think that he and Romney probably do get along well with each other.

But I agree with Desert Cat -- the best outcome is a GOP Congress spending the next four years investigating Obama and gearing up to campaign against Hillary in 2016.

Anonymous Noah B. August 09, 2012 1:14 AM  

But for sheer entertainment value, I would love to see Romney will pick Huntsman and spend the rest of the election cycle denying that there is a Mormon conspiracy to take over the country.

Anonymous Noah B. August 09, 2012 1:20 AM  

@Chedderman
"Lindsay Graham, for the closet fag and somewhat flamboyantly and out of the closet gay vote."

Your plan lacks subtlety. Eric Cantor would be much better for that.

Anonymous Richardthughes August 09, 2012 1:26 AM  

Please please please Bachmann, Jindal, Palin or Trump!

Anonymous Roundtine August 09, 2012 1:42 AM  

Loser Pawlenty was wiped out by Michelle Bachmann in less than a fortnight. Seems like a solid Romney pick!

A Ryan pick is stupid for both Ryan and Romney. I don't think Ryan is as stupid as Romney, so he will decline.

Rubio may be ineligible, but can Democrats attack him as ineligible? Picking Rubio is Trump bait, the whole fall will be about how Rubio and Obama are ineligible.

Anonymous Slowpoke August 09, 2012 2:56 AM  

I'm guessing this realization is late to me, but Romney is just the republicans Al Gore, isn't he?

Anonymous Rantor August 09, 2012 6:26 AM  

@ Desert Cat... aw come on now, Conservatives who don't like Ron Paul always point at his drug and prostitution positions, they bother them. They also think he is ducking the issue every time he says something isn't a federal power but must be left to the states. While I agree with him on that, many just don't understand, yes MPAI.

As he is pro-Life, pro-Gun and anti-Fed, he will always get my vote.

Anonymous Van August 09, 2012 7:47 AM  

Rice, Rand Paul, and a few others supposedly on the list have been given prime speaking roles at the convention, something that almost certainly eliminates them from contention.

Still remaining are Pawlenty, Portman, Rubio, and McDonnell. All but Pawlenty are scheduled to be on Romney's bus tour.

Blogger James Dixon August 09, 2012 8:37 AM  

> They know enough to pick somebody who nobody in their right mind would want them to be replaced by after an assassination.

Which is, of course, the real argument against his crossing the aisle and offering the position to Hillary.

> ...but Romney is just the republicans Al Gore, isn't he?

Hmm. Look wise, yes. But I'd say he's actually more like Kerry or Edwards policy wise.

Blogger Rahul August 09, 2012 9:49 AM  

However, Romney should pick a libertarian guy: Demint or Rand (even though Rand is a d-bag).

Paul Ryan would be the next alternative (even though his budget is a mess).

Rubio scares me. His speeches are pretty bellicose. Neocons scare me.

Anonymous Josh August 09, 2012 10:57 AM  

Why is rand a d-bag?

Blogger Rahul August 09, 2012 11:17 AM  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UKXpzdFQ_I

"Why is rand a d-bag?"

This video is the answer

Anonymous rienzi August 09, 2012 11:41 AM  

Personally, I really do hope that there is some kind of an evil cabal of Bankster, Illuminati, Bilderberger, CFR, Trilateral, Globalist Joos pulling the strings, selecting prez and vp candidates, and generally running things. The thought that Bill Clinton, W, and Barack were and are actually large and in charge, is almost too frightening to contemplate. Much like seeing a loaded pistol in the hands of a pre-school child.

Blogger Good Will August 09, 2012 1:09 PM  

Well, the surest sign that the "fix" is in, Goldman and GE employees have shifted their financial support from Obama and the Democrats to Romney and the Republicans, thus insuring a continuation of corporate welfare from the bi-factional ruling party.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-08-09/goldman-sachs-leads-split-with-obama-as-ge-jilts-him-too.html

Blogger Good Will August 09, 2012 1:12 PM  

Rubio is not a "natural born" U.S. citizen and thus not qualified to be POTUS.

But who the hell cares? The "United States" aren't united, neither are they states.

It's just empire now.

Blogger Desert Cat August 09, 2012 2:27 PM  

Rantor August 09, 2012 6:26 AM
@ Desert Cat... aw come on now, Conservatives who don't like Ron Paul always point at his drug and prostitution positions, they bother them.


The ones I talk to don't. I've asked a few point blank what it is they don't like: "Er, ah, unelectable... um foreign policy, blurg, splat..just because!"

The truth is, "because I don't question the RushHannity kool aid!"

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Anonymous Jimmy August 09, 2012 6:14 PM  

The best VP candidate for Romney is none of the above. Sure, a white guy is boring, but Rubio isn't the best Hispanic candidate. It would be His-pander at its worst. So no hispanic, black, or woman candidate this time.

The best white candidate must not overshadow Romney. In fact, the focus should be entirely on Obama versus Romney, not Biden versus "fill in the blank".

Instead of picking a former governor or a senator, how about a house member?

Anonymous oregon mouse August 10, 2012 12:00 AM  

I vote David Christopher Holcomb attourney-at-law. I think he would go a long way toward bringing in the youth vote, evangelicals, and the insane.

http://www.presidentdavidchristopherholcomb.com/

Anonymous E. PERLINE August 10, 2012 11:21 AM  

Obama keeps peppering Romney with slander. But he complains he is already running out of money. What else is new?

Romney is holding his fire. To his credit he keeps focusing on the economy. I guess he'll open fire soon.

In the meanwhile, if he can get Clint Eastwood to run as his VP...

Blogger Brian August 11, 2012 12:29 AM  

Intrade had Paul Ryan at 31% this afternoon when I got home from work. I looked into making a wager, but found that US residents are pretty much limited to mailing a check to Ireland in order to fund an account.

He is at 94% now, with word that a charter jet sits in his hometown, Secret Service is headed to his house, and Romney is making the announcement early tomorrow morning on board the USS Wisconsin.

Sigh.

Anonymous YIH August 11, 2012 10:02 AM  

It's official now, Ryan.

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