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Friday, October 12, 2012

Europe is SERIOUSLY bankrupt

This award by the Nobel committee strikes me as the equivalent of desperately rooting through the couch, searching for change to pay the repo man:
The European Union was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize, providing a feel-good moment for the economically distressed bloc at a time when its post-national vision is losing traction at home and abroad.  The accolade comes as the financial crisis threatens the EU’s signal achievement, the euro, and the rise of powers such as China, India and Brazil challenges the European model of rules-based cooperation with nation-states handing sovereign rights to a central authority.

“This is in a way a message to Europe that we should do everything we can to secure what has been achieved and move forward,” Thorbjoern Jagland, head of the Norwegian Nobel Committee, told reporters in Oslo after awarding the 8 million- krona ($1.2 million) prize. “We have to keep in mind what has been achieved on this continent and not let the continent go into disintegration again. We know what it means: the emergence of extremism and nationalism once again.”
The Peace Prize has always been about mindless optimism.  But it used to concern itself with actual deeds and accomplishments.  Now, with the recent awards to President Barack "Seven Wars" Obama and the Euzis of the European Union, it looks more like the triumph of deranged wishful thinking than anything else.  And it does tend to confirm the opinion of long-time EU skeptics who always believed the purpose of the Union was to leash the German military rather than build a common market.

I found this to be the most cogent take on the absurdity: 

"Giving the EU a peace prize is at best premature, like knighting Sir Fred Goodwin in the middle of the mad boom. We have no idea how the experiment to create an anti-democratic federation will end. Hopefully the answer is very peacefully, but when Greek protesters are wearing Nazi uniforms, and Spanish youth unemployment is running at 50 per cent, a look at history suggests there is always the possibility of a bumpy landing.

Daftest of all is the notion that the EU itself has kept the peace. It was the Allies led by the Americans, the Russians and the British who defeated and disarmed the Germans in 1945. The German people then underwent the most extraordinary reckoning, transforming their country into an essentially pacifist society. The EU had very little to do with it. Throughout that period it was Nato, led by the Americans and British, which kept the peace in Western Europe."

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56 Comments:

Anonymous Hong Hu Shi October 12, 2012 6:23 AM  

"Sorry, EU, we can't bail you out, but I suppose we could give you 8 million krona. It's a start, anyway."

Anonymous Rantor October 12, 2012 6:38 AM  

And the Peace Prize comes from Norway, a nation not part of the EU or Euro Zone. Of course their elites want to join, but the people have always been sensible enough to reject the EU. Norway is one of the few countries in Europe with a surplus (north Sea Crude don't you know) despite having a large and in some ways faltering socialist state. (high income tax, 25% sales tax, 200% sales tax on cars.)

While the current situation should only reinforce, in the Norwegian's minds, why they should not join the EU. It appears the elites are still all for it.

Anonymous John October 12, 2012 6:44 AM  

From the Nobel wiki page:

The awards given to the Dalai Lama, Yitzhak Rabin, Shimon Peres and Yasser Arafat, Lê Ðức Thọ, Henry Kissinger, Rigoberta Menchú, Jimmy Carter, Al Gore, Liu Xiaobo and Barack Obama have all been the subject of controversy.

That's quite the list of heros they've got going.

Anonymous Roundtine October 12, 2012 6:44 AM  

It isn't optimism. The Obama win was about pushing him to follow through on his agenda. Failed.
Now they are telling the EU states: you cannot break up because the EU is for peace.
Following the logic, they'll eventually give it to a bellicose tyrant on the verge of war.

Anonymous daddynichol October 12, 2012 6:48 AM  

What? The Prize didn't go to Iran?

Anonymous VryeDenker October 12, 2012 6:53 AM  

I had my money on Kim Il Sung.

Anonymous Raskolnikov October 12, 2012 6:59 AM  

"While the current situation should only reinforce, in the Norwegian's minds, why they should not join the EU. It appears the elites are still all for it."

As a Norwegian I find this whole thing embarrassing. Unsurprisingly, most of the elites are still for the EU, including much of the mainstream media. Of course, only a shrinking minority of Norwegians would vote Yes in a referendum, but I have sneaking suspicion we'll not actually be asked the next time.

Oh, and Torbjørn Jagland is widely regarded as a useless clown.

Anonymous VryeDenker October 12, 2012 7:13 AM  

I wonder if Fjordman ever saw this coming.

Anonymous Jazzy22b October 12, 2012 7:37 AM  

Just two and half words: WHAT THE FU

Anonymous anon123 October 12, 2012 7:56 AM  

It seems to me that they should drop the Euro and replace it with the Krona if they want to make any progress.

Anonymous Moranderin October 12, 2012 8:25 AM  

The best comment I've read about this award so far:

"I picked up a Nobel Peace Prize at Walmart just the other day."

Anonymous stg58 October 12, 2012 8:47 AM  

Apparently to the EU, nationalism = Nazis, Third Reich and Holocaust.

Anonymous macintyred October 12, 2012 9:08 AM  

So, if the Nobel committee had awarded the prize to themselves instead of the EU, would it have been more of a joke or less?

Anonymous WootBot October 12, 2012 9:11 AM  

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Anonymous DonReynolds October 12, 2012 9:13 AM  

Vox...."And it does tend to confirm the opinion of long-time EU skeptics who always believed the purpose of the Union was to leash the German military rather than build a common market."

Given that the Genesis of the EU was not the Common Market but an even earlier Coal and Steel Community, this argument is not mere skepticism. It is a fact that the EU the the political culmination (not yet finished) that began with the American Morgenthau Plan, which was implemented for ten years in Germany after WWII. The Coal and Steel Community SPECIFICALLY was intended to prevent future wars in Europe by denying any one country the ability to produce its own steel, necessary for a modern war machine. This is not a theory or conspiracy or opinion. It was the REASON for deliberately creating codependency among the former warring powers of Europe. Of course, the Europeans did not realize the peace they were seeking because of the Cold War, occupation of Eastern Europe by the Soviet Union, and the tensions we are all aware of the past 60 years. But the peace was not kept by the Coal and Steel Community. That peace was bought by NATO and the resolve to stop any further extension of Soviet occupation in Europe.

Anonymous paradox October 12, 2012 9:17 AM  

I thought the protestors were wearing Nazi paraphernalia to protest Merkel. Equating her to a Nazi. Well, it would shock me if they did revert to fascism. I would expect more of a Marxist take over of Europe, then you will see a holocaust.

Anonymous paradox October 12, 2012 9:18 AM  

That should be... it wouldn't shock me.

Anonymous DonReynolds October 12, 2012 9:21 AM  

Nobel Committee...“We have to keep in mind what has been achieved on this continent and not let the continent go into disintegration again. We know what it means: the emergence of extremism and nationalism once again.”

Apparently, the Nobel fathers believe the Germans have a monopoly on extremism and nationalism, when there is no such shortage on the part of Americans, French, or British. Nor is extremism and nationalism confined to Europe. I am even more anxious about the Chinese and Russian varieties, which have killed many times more of their own people than the Syrians ever will. Apparently, the Nobel Committee prefers the Internationalism of the Communist world to the petty Nationalism of the Western Democracies.

Anonymous E. PERLINE October 12, 2012 9:43 AM  

That's why the U.S. has to get back on the path of enterprise. To set another example for Europe to use. Otherwise it's curtains for everybody.

Anonymous duckman October 12, 2012 9:59 AM  

Hey, $1.2 million is almost as good as finding loose change for the repo man.

Anonymous Josh October 12, 2012 10:06 AM  

Which one is the seventh war? Sudan?

Anonymous DonReynolds October 12, 2012 10:09 AM  

John....."From the Nobel wiki page:

The awards given to the Dalai Lama, Yitzhak Rabin, Shimon Peres and Yasser Arafat, Lê Ðức Thọ, Henry Kissinger, Rigoberta Menchú, Jimmy Carter, Al Gore, Liu Xiaobo and Barack Obama have all been the subject of controversy.

That's quite the list of heros they've got going."

Not mentioned is the fact that the inventor of modern Fascism, Benito Mussolini was seriously considered for the Nobel Peace Prize in 1935, when he was viewed as the keeper of the peace in Europe by countering the buildup of German military power, specifically the Stresa Front agreements. (This same Mussolini was also the "Defender of Islam".)

This was one of a string of failed diplomatic agreements that ultimately led to WWII several years later. Mussolini was not pro-German in those days, as he would be later. But experience shows that Mussolini rightly felt he had been betrayed by the British and the French, who made separate agreements with the Germans allowing them much more latitude, culminating in the disasterous appeasements at Munich. Mussolini's mania for demographics led him to conclude that Britian and France (both aging societies with low birthrates) would be declining powers, so he slowly sided with the Germans.


Anonymous Josh October 12, 2012 10:39 AM  

Mussolini was a sucker for snappy uniforms

Anonymous Noah B. October 12, 2012 10:40 AM  

Previous recipients (not necessarily for economics) have included Arafat, Krugman, Al Gore, and Obama.

Anonymous Noah B. October 12, 2012 10:45 AM  

Dang, you beat me to it Don.

Blogger Joe Doakes October 12, 2012 11:10 AM  

In a way, this is a good thing. The Nobel Committee has almost as good a record of predicting failure as my stock picks. So long, EU!

Anonymous DonReynolds October 12, 2012 11:15 AM  

Please, Noah B. You are a better writer than I will ever be. Give us your take too.

Anonymous Axe Head October 12, 2012 11:56 AM  

Mussolini was a sucker for snappy uniforms

A snappy uniform is good game.

Anonymous Microphone Jones October 12, 2012 12:05 PM  

OT: consequences of gender equality

http://youtu.be/iV8W8clUYQ4

Anonymous Bah October 12, 2012 12:06 PM  

"Giving the EU a peace prize is at best premature, like knighting Sir Fred Goodwin in the middle of the mad boom."

More like making a horse a Senator.

Or giving a guy who has done nothing the Nobel Peace Prize, and then not revoking it after he acts the opposite of peaceful.

Anonymous Bah October 12, 2012 12:08 PM  

What has "Europe" ever done for peace, anyway? All they did was kill each other for centuries, and then after 1945 acted like a bunch of whining castrati.

(Yeah, they've done exactly the same as Barack Obama had done for peace in 2009, nothing, but that's beside the point.)

Anonymous Joe "Clownfart" Biden October 12, 2012 12:45 PM  

Joe Biden is laughing right now at this. HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

Anonymous Salt October 12, 2012 1:40 PM  

The Nobel goes to the EU -

"May I buy a vowel please Alex".

Anonymous Gx1080 October 12, 2012 3:50 PM  

You heard it, ladies and gentlemen, the police stormtroopers beating up anti-austerity protesters are doing it "for peace".

Off-topic, is lovely how my new Computer Network book has some paragraphs about social networks and how is bad that they allow (gasp) Politically Incorrect opinions and how the 4th amendment gets on the way of the sainted Goverment and how said sainted Goverment has the full right to use data-mining on its citizens in the name of progress.

(Lovely, as in it makes me want to puke).

Blogger Lovekraft October 12, 2012 4:02 PM  

These peace prizes sound a lot like those "Honorary Degrees" that get thrown around so much.

Either it is an actual degree, verifiable and subject to review, or it is just another name for liberal smugness.

Anonymous CrisisEraDynamo October 12, 2012 5:45 PM  

This song is appropriate: Steven Crowder's "I Gots a Peace Prize"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnLqoRtUAVg

Blogger Survival Gardener, AKA David the Good October 12, 2012 5:48 PM  

From williambanzai7 at zerohedge:

http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/2012-10-12/nobel-farce

Anonymous Fiends of Porky? and Friends October 12, 2012 6:19 PM  

Gee, I'm so shocked!

You mean Monsanto didn't get the prize?

Ya know, they are just trying to feed the world and all. What's the harm in that?

Come on, they're doing it for the children. [1]

One should get some kind of prize for that...



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[1] After all, they did kill one of my closest friends with AO. I mean, they didn't mean to. It is was an honest mistake. It will never happen again.

Anonymous Elmer Fudge (friend of Sexual Chocolate) October 12, 2012 6:32 PM  

Now, this chick should get the Peace Prize..

[WARNING: Hippie at the helm]

Anonymous Azimus October 12, 2012 6:49 PM  

The Nobel Prize is on the fast-track to absurdity, see Time Magazine's "Man of the Year". Who will get it next, "the blogosphere"?

Anonymous Noah B. October 12, 2012 7:41 PM  

"Come on, they're doing it for the children."

The thought of Lunchables makes me cringe. Amazing to think I've known people who actually like that stuff.

Anonymous fnn October 12, 2012 8:38 PM  

Mussolini was a sucker for snappy uniforms.

Are you implying that USMC dress blues aren't snappy ?

And why does no one in the US Army ever wear anything except baggy fatigues, are they afraid someone will call them "fascist" if they dress up?

Anonymous fnn October 12, 2012 8:52 PM  

How Harvard Conquered Europe
(...)
"First, I believe anti-Americanism is best described as an epiphenomenon of Universalism. The single most significant fact about the world today is that sixty-two years ago it was conquered by a military alliance whose leader was the United States, and whose creed of battle was this nontheistic adaptation of New England mainline Protestantism. I don't think it's a coincidence that the European ruling class holds essentially the same perspectives that were held at Harvard in 1945. The US Army did not shoot all the professors in Europe and replace them with Yankee carpetbaggers, but the prestige of conquest is such that it might as well have."

"It makes sense to view anti-Americanism as a postwar phenomenon, because it's hard to find anything in Europe's prewar political scene that corresponds to it. Before WWII, a European who found American influences pernicious was most likely a man of the Right, generally either an anti-Wilsonian aristocrat or a Bonapartist nationalist demagogue. After the war, and especially since the rise of the postwar-educated generation of 1968, European anti-Americanism has been overwhelmingly on the Left. Considering the animosity between these factions, it's hard to find any continuity between them."
(...)

Or Was It Georgetown?
(...)
"What Europeans call "anti-Americanism" is actually a belief, generally quite sincere, that America is not living up to her own ideals of 1945. "Anti-Americanism" might be better described as "ultra-Americanism," or perhaps "Georgetownism." And it certainly has nothing to do with the any pre-1940 negative perceptions of America. There is minimal cultural continuity between Europe before the war and Europe today. All the institutions were purged, all the individuals have finally kicked it. The Dutch who let you smoke weed in their cafes and the Dutch who ruled Indonesia might as well be on different planets. The former are thoroughly ashamed that they are even descended from the latter. And the latter are dead, which is probably a blessing."

"So: my first political opinions were, of course, Georgetownist. I remember going to school in Nicosia the day after Reagan was elected in 1984. I was terribly embarrassed. I felt that my country had more or less taken a crap in its pants. To the Georgetownist, America exists so that it can lead the world to democracy and peace. Obviously Reagan did not stand for either of these things. He stood for Plainland and "pep rallies." Of course I knew little of either, but I had a sense that they were out there, waiting."
(...)

Anonymous zen0 October 12, 2012 9:40 PM  

How can you completely ignore the debilitating influence of a European education on the American elite?

It is a seriously flawed analysis that does not recognise the roots of liberal fascism in the European experience.

Anonymous zen0 October 12, 2012 10:03 PM  

Vox gotta luv this

Apparently someone in the black community is reading the blog.

"She wanna act like a man, gonna treat her like a man"

Pow..

Anonymous Anonymous October 12, 2012 10:50 PM  

You heard it, ladies and gentlemen, the police stormtroopers beating up anti-austerity protesters are doing it "for peace".
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Those pigs should get medals for that. And that nigger bus driver should be made an Honorary White Man for punching that sheboon.

Anonymous LoPan October 12, 2012 10:55 PM  

The Kung Fu is strong tonight.

Anonymous Clay October 13, 2012 6:32 AM  

Vox is probably treating the Bunny to a nice weekend. He should be, anyway...

Anonymous E. PERLINE October 13, 2012 12:38 PM  

Mussolini was a poster boy for a typical "strong man" dictator. It's a time-honored profession. They all use a similar model. Required:

1. Uniform or special outfit.
2. Dramatic gestures.
3. Glorified public image.

They are also required to be victorious in war. If not, they must use fiery oratory to keep reminding their people that they are victims.

Anonymous Anonymous October 13, 2012 12:43 PM  

"A Declaration of War" - From the Youth of France
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lb8SLNMIBlM

Fuck the EU, fuck multiculturalism.

Anonymous Gx1080 October 13, 2012 1:02 PM  

@Anon

Spaniards and Greeks betting beat up by IMF thugs has anything to do with the US's racial issues in.....what exactly?

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Blogger James Higham October 15, 2012 6:35 AM  

Just waiting for the crash now.

Blogger Galt-in-Da-Box October 19, 2012 3:15 AM  

Europe is ALSO seriously Papist & effeminate...Go figure!

Anonymous Renton Bankruptcy Lawyer January 03, 2013 2:41 AM  

I think it is because the European government is not acting. It needs to stabilize and reduce its debt. Not some time in an unspecified future, but right now.

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