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Monday, October 29, 2012

So evacuate already

Yes, all the storm warnings about ex-Hurricane Sandy are probably overhyped.  Overhype is one of the chief attributes of our increasingly idiocratic society.  But, even so, what's the point in taking the risk?  Spacebunny and I used to live in a coastal area, and we figured that if a hurricane ever came our way, we'd just take advantage of it to have a week's vacation somewhere inland.  So, if you're in the storm's path, get out of Dodge and take it easy.

That being said, this warning from the National Weather Service is weirdly sentimental:
1. IF YOU ARE BEING ASKED TO EVACUATE A COASTAL LOCATION BY STATE AND LOCAL OFFICIALS, PLEASE DO SO.
2. IF YOU ARE RELUCTANT TO EVACUATE, AND YOU KNOW SOMEONE WHO RODE OUT THE ’62 STORM ON THE BARRIER ISLANDS, ASK THEM IF THEY COULD DO IT AGAIN.
3. IF YOU ARE RELUCTANT, THINK ABOUT YOUR LOVED ONES, THINK ABOUT THE EMERGENCY RESPONDERS WHO WILL BE UNABLE TO REACH YOU WHEN YOU MAKE THE PANICKED PHONE CALL TO BE RESCUED, THINK ABOUT THE RESCUE/RECOVERY TEAMS WHO WILL RESCUE YOU IF YOU ARE INJURED OR RECOVER YOUR REMAINS IF YOU DO NOT SURVIVE.
4. SANDY IS AN EXTREMELY DANGEROUS STORM. THERE WILL BE MAJOR PROPERTY DAMAGE, INJURIES ARE PROBABLY UNAVOIDABLE, BUT THE GOAL IS ZERO FATALITIES.
5. IF YOU THINK THE STORM IS OVER-HYPED AND EXAGGERATED, PLEASE ERR ON THE SIDE OF CAUTION. WE WISH EVERYONE IN HARMS WAY ALL THE BEST. STAY SAFE!
Think of the poor children!  Think of the poor banks!  Wait, never mind, that's the Obama and Romney campaigns, not the Weather Service.  The point is, you're not going to score any points for hunkering down when you could be at a cheerful bed and breakfast waiting out the storm while enjoying the guilty pleasures of eating homemade chocolate chip cookies and watching the Obama campaign continue to immolate itself.

I do find it interesting, however, that we haven't heard much about the storm being caused by global warming.  That meme is really dying out fast, because even three years ago, there is no way the media would have missed the chance to bang that drum.  I'm a bit bitter about the storm myself, as it seems to have delayed Google's announcement of the Nexus 10.  I understand they had to cancel the event, but I would still like to know when it will be available and what it will cost.

Anyhow, if you're one of the Dread Ilk in the path of the storm, stay safe out there and let us know you're all right.

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100 Comments:

Anonymous Josh October 29, 2012 9:10 AM  

I'm sure Nate is holding prayer sessions to ensure that Manhattan gets hit the hardest.

Anonymous Apeman October 29, 2012 9:10 AM  

I have only seen one storm that was really hyped that ever turned out bad. And that was Katrina. Most the rest of the storms that people got excited about did not amount to much. But let us say there is only a 1 in ten chance of this being another Katrina. Still to high of a chance for me.

I keep seeing comments along the lines of the fact that they hyped Irene and that wound up being nothing. Well, it was not nothing for my area. It stalled right above us and give us our second 100 year flood in 5 years. Destroyed a lot of houses and business that were not in flood zone (supposedly). Destroyed both ends of the road I live on now. It was no fun.

I suspect a similar thing will happen with this storm. Most places will be saying "That was not so bad" but some place is really going to get hammered.

Blogger gooddayallday October 29, 2012 9:14 AM  

Sure, it sounds easy to just hop in your car and drive a few states over for a few days at a hotel, but the reality is that a lot of Americans can't afford to leave. Consider that 65% of Americans don't have even $1000 saved for an emergency (http://money.cnn.com/2011/08/10/pf/emergency_fund/index.htm). It's a strange state of affairs.

Blogger Eric Mueller October 29, 2012 9:17 AM  

I've had The Weather Channel on in the background for several days, and I was surprised to notice I haven't heard "Global Warming" or "Climate Change" yet. Very strange, especially for TWC. Normally, they can't contain their enthusiasm for blaming sprinkles on climate change. "It's raining in March! Everybody go back to living in caves! Save the planet!"

Anonymous waguy October 29, 2012 9:18 AM  

I am waiting in Philly. I am upset I cannot order the nexus 4 though.

Anonymous JartStar October 29, 2012 9:20 AM  

Leaving is not as easy as one would think due to lack of funds, gas shortages, traffic, pets, fear of looters, etc. That being said leaving is a good idea if at all possible.

Of course how can you play Hurricane Bingo while watching the news if they don't interview the toothless old coot who's "ridin' it out!". What do you mean there aren't any Global Warming comments? That's the center square on my card!

Anonymous VryeDenker October 29, 2012 9:24 AM  

I wonder if a recent case in Italy jolted them a bit..?

Anonymous Salt October 29, 2012 9:24 AM  

This storm dwarfs Irene in size. Its wind field is huge. Even if it's but a TS and not a Cat-1 it's going to be slow thus giving lots of time for surge to build. It's looking to be a slow mover inland too. Add to it the cold front it's going to collide with and it could become quite a show.

Here in NC my barometer dropped to 29.8 inches, or 1010mb.

Blogger swiftfoxmark2 October 29, 2012 9:27 AM  

It's all right VD. The United States Air force has sprayed enough chemicals in the air that we should the storm die down significantly when it hits landfall.

I mean, what else are those chemtrails for, some kind of anti-Soviet deathray as envisioned by Tesla?

Blogger Spacebunny October 29, 2012 9:30 AM  

Leaving is not as easy as one would think due to lack of funds, gas shortages, traffic, pets, fear of looters, etc.

True, but one of my best friends was still able to do it, pregnant with a toddler and two dogs, her husband was in Navy. She managed to get the truck loaded up with babies, dogs and essentials (keepsakes, computers, etc) and get out.

And I don't care if you stay if you want to, but then you don't get to call any emergency services later hoping they'll come and help you out.

Anonymous VryeDenker October 29, 2012 9:31 AM  

If someone mentions HAARP, I'm leaving.

Anonymous aero October 29, 2012 9:38 AM  

The great blow on the great lakes in Nov 1913 the remains of sandy on the great lakes is going to awesome
There is no such thing as a small Hurricane. It doesn't matter what level of stupidity you have. All hurricanes treat stupidity the same.

Anonymous Josh October 29, 2012 9:38 AM  

This is obviously a devious plot by the confederacy to evacuate all the Yankees into fema camps where they will be forced to watch a never ending loop of sec teams winning six straight bcs titles.

Anonymous Rantor October 29, 2012 9:48 AM  

Commute in DC was not a problem this morning, most people staying home. Got covered parking, Gore Tex clothes for the walk to and from the office (used to live in Norway, "no bad weather, just the wrong clothes") worst here should be falling trees and power outages.

Hopefully the trees in the back yard make it.

Anonymous YIH October 29, 2012 9:49 AM  

VD:
all the storm warnings about ex-Hurricane Sandy are [strike]probably[/strike] overhyped
Fixed it for 'ya!
It passed by me (FL coast) as a Cat 1. Sporadic rain, and winds from 10-30mph. Issac was worse and only because it was more rain. Hearing all these ''OMG!!! BATTEN DOWN THE HATCHES!!! IT'S A FRANKENSTORM!!!'' reports was good for laughs if nothing else.
Been through quite a few tropical storms and hurricanes with Charlie being the worst and yeah, they're crying wolf.
Overhype is one of the chief attributes of our increasingly idiocratic society
In FL, hurricane season is sort of like watching reruns of Sanford and Son where Redd Foxx clutches his chest and waves his arm saying ''Lizabeth! It's the big one!, I'm coming Lizabeth!'' when it comes to news.
BTW Vox, looks like things might be getting interesting over there as well...

Anonymous zen0 October 29, 2012 9:51 AM  

We got evacuated off a small reef-island in Belize because the Weather service said a tropical storm was developing into a hurricane.

We were dropped off on a sandy penninsula that seemed about 3 feet above sea level.

There was no transportation out because anybody with a vehicle had already left, so we stayed there at our B&B with most of the townsfolk and got really drunk then went to bed.

Morning came and we were not dead because the storm did not develop as expected. Everybody was pissed at the weather service.

Found out later that people actually have storm parties in those places.

Anonymous Anonymous October 29, 2012 9:53 AM  

Grew up a Coast Guard brat, funny how we were never evacuated except to some of the hangers on base, because enlisted didn't and still don't make much above the poverty line. There would have been no place we could of afforded.

Anonymous jack October 29, 2012 10:02 AM  

My brother stills lives in Mobile on the Gulf Coast. He's no wilting violet, ex Marine. war veteran, etc., but he and spouse always leave town when one comes in. As you say, a perfect chance to make a run up to the Smokies and enjoy.

I've ridden out some huricanes, once by choice, and a few times on assignment in another life; there's no gain in false heroics when common sense should rule the day.

Anonymous Mike M. October 29, 2012 10:03 AM  

No, the storms are caused by a surplus of liberals.

Anonymous Stickwick October 29, 2012 10:06 AM  

I do find it interesting, however, that we haven't heard much about the storm being caused by global warming.

Maybe the Obama water carriers in the media are just happy they have a deflection from Benghazi, and consider it gauche to try to wring further political expediency out of the situation. Also, the storm is hitting a region the elites actually care about, and it doesn't fit the narrative to have Mother Earth's punishment for humankind's transgressions inflicted on the high holy cities of NY and DC.

Anonymous Salt October 29, 2012 10:07 AM  

Worth the watch... The Great New England Hurricane of 1938

It's not long.

Anonymous Huckleberry - est. 1977 October 29, 2012 10:11 AM  

Jeez, this reads like Crockett's last dispatch from the Alamo. One wonders that if this storm where headed for Hilton Head, if the NWS announcement would be a little more useful, and not written by a panicky 14-year-old girl...

Anonymous jack October 29, 2012 10:13 AM  

VryeDenker October 29, 2012 9:31 AM

If someone mentions HAARP, I'm leaving.

Now Vry, you just know the HAARP facilities are real [all 11 or so of them in the world] and that the countries that have them have been involved in weather wars for years. You just know....

In fact, from some of your comments in the past you seem like a techie type of guy and, it may be, that YOU are a worker in the HAARP technologies. Just saying....

Blogger swiftfoxmark2 October 29, 2012 10:14 AM  

If someone mentions HAARP, I'm leaving.

Oh don't be such a baby. If the government can steer Katrina to kill black people in New Orleans, for fun and profit, why couldn't they steer Sandy to New Jersery instead of DC?

Some people are too uptight...

Anonymous kaz October 29, 2012 10:16 AM  

In Delaware on the Indian River the barometer just hit 990 and Sandy is still at sea. Going to be a fun ride.

Kaz

Blogger Elusive Wapiti October 29, 2012 10:22 AM  

Landfall about 18 hours from now; thus far it's bands of moderate rains. Winds are supposed to peak at 63 mph on the Chesapeake. Schools closed pre-emptively all over the place, FedGov closed for routine business too.

Be safe, Kaz

Anonymous FUBAR Nation (Ben) October 29, 2012 10:25 AM  

Maybe Sandy will shut down DC for a month.

Anonymous Meh October 29, 2012 10:27 AM  

Washington DC, ain't nuthin' happening yet as of 10:30am Monday. Slightly damp. Way overhyped storm so far.

Anonymous jm October 29, 2012 10:29 AM  

Hunkered down in the Baltimore area at the mo'. Pretty consistent rainfall since last night, occasional wind gusts, nothing serious. If the power does go out the air will be cool, at least.

Anonymous Starbuck October 29, 2012 10:30 AM  

The point is, you're not going to score any points for hunkering down when you could be at a cheerful bed and breakfast waiting out the storm while enjoying the guilty pleasures of eating homemade chocolate chip cookies and watching the Obama campaign continue to immolate itself. - VD


I still love your humor VD. That one made me laugh.

I voted last night. I voted for Gary Johnson. :)

If this storm reached me, there will be nothing left of the east coast. Colorado doesn't seem to get much in the line of hurricane storms. Well, we haven't for 17 years anyways..

Anonymous Josh October 29, 2012 10:31 AM  

Maybe Sandy will shut down DC for a month.

We can pray.

Anonymous Haarp October 29, 2012 10:45 AM  


That was a funny post V you can go now lol.

Blogger swiftfoxmark2 October 29, 2012 10:48 AM  

Washington DC, ain't nuthin' happening yet as of 10:30am Monday. Slightly damp. Way overhyped storm so far.

Yeah, nothing to it really.

Although a co-worker who was working remotely in NJ just lost power.

Anonymous zen0 October 29, 2012 11:06 AM  

Some music for your storm party:


Didn't It Rain -- Mahalia Jackson

Anonymous Bob Ramar October 29, 2012 11:09 AM  

Here in the high country of western North Carolina, it is 34 degrees with 15 knot winds, gusts to 30, light snow blowing with accumulations in the higher mountains of three to six inches. More coming tonight and Tuesday with forecasted accumulations of up to 18 inches in the higher elevations. It is the 'hurricane force' winds though that worry me.

Anonymous Ingemar October 29, 2012 11:12 AM  

That's funny--the libs have been screeching "global warming" all this summer long. I wonder what news Vox has been reading/listening to?

Anonymous Kel October 29, 2012 11:19 AM  

Reporting from the Upper West Side in Manhattan (yes, really): no rain at all, lots of wind. I'm off today because the market's closed, and I'm enjoying my coffee reading Vox and VFR archives.

Blogger James Dixon October 29, 2012 11:20 AM  

Here in north central WV, we're just expecting rain, mixed snow, and some flooding; so I don't expect any problems. The mountains are looking at the possibility of up to 2 foot of snow, so that could get interesting.

Anonymous Josh October 29, 2012 11:21 AM  

Some perspective on killer storms from a guyon lriding it out on long island with his dog and some whiskey:

And by the way, death tolls from the Carribean do not count, we don't live in shacks made of scrap metal from abandoned cruise ships placed on hillsides that have a history of mudslides, so if 30 people died in Haiti that is tragic, but it doesn't mean it is now a "KILLER STORM", it just means it hit Haiti

Blogger Desert Cat October 29, 2012 11:28 AM  

VryeDenker October 29, 2012 9:31 AM
If someone mentions HAARP, I'm leaving.


Sorry Vrye. See you later then.

The HAARP array has been turned up to eleven for the past week and centered over New York City.

What does it mean? Hellif I know. But that white hot spot on the monitoring grid is the highest the project has measured the output ever.

Anonymous SouthTX October 29, 2012 11:31 AM  

I made the mistake of not bugging out wife and kids in 2003. Work travel comitted too. I called home the day before to ask if I needed to cancel it. She said no. It will be fine. I should have known better. I can safely bet she won't make that same mistake again.

Anonymous Landshark October 29, 2012 11:38 AM  

Northern VA; just rain and some wind so far--nothing I haven't seen in other storms. We're reasonably prepared with the exception of the winter firewood delivery that was scheduled for tomorrow and could not be accelerated. Most of the office is teleworking for the time being, and we just got word to telework tomorrow.

Anonymous Apeman October 29, 2012 11:40 AM  

Atlantic City is under water. There is at least some people for whom this is no joke already.

Anonymous DonReynolds October 29, 2012 11:41 AM  

I remember very well how so many of the coastal residents evaculated the Carolina coast when Hugo approached. Hundreds of them went to Florence, South Carolina, and rented motel rooms wherever they could find one. Unfortunately, the full fury of Hugo made landfall at Charleston and went directly to Florence....where the evacuees rode out the hurricane anyway....hunkered down in cheap motels. The loss of life was considerable. Incredible.

Of course, my personal favorite was the mass evacuation of Houston to avoid hurricane Rita. Both sides of Interstate 45 was clogged to a standstill when the hurricane hit and there was no gasoline between Houston and Dallas. So the evacuees rode out the hurricane sitting in their cars and trucks! Even more incredible. (I am dubious of anyone being able to evacuate 4 million people, much less the expected impact zone of hurricane Sandy.)

Blogger Ghost October 29, 2012 11:45 AM  

Then drive your car inland until you run out of gas and stay in your car. Staying because "you can't afford to leave" is BS. It's like the girl who can't break up with her boyfriend because "I left my CDs in his car!"

If your family can't afford to drive away from the storm, how the hell are they going to afford a funeral?

Anonymous YIH October 29, 2012 11:47 AM  

@Kel:
Reporting from the Upper West Side in Manhattan (yes, really): no rain at all, lots of wind. I'm off today because the market's closed, and I'm enjoying my coffee reading Vox and VFR archives.
Excellent choice.
BTW, Auster's posting, so things can't be too bad in your area yet. And yeah, those are fake ;)

Anonymous Josh October 29, 2012 11:49 AM  

Can someone explain to me Auster's appeal?

Anonymous Daniel October 29, 2012 11:51 AM  

Or grab a sleeping bag freaking take a walk.

It isn't like a hurricane is a tornado, popping up in the matter of minutes at random. You've got days to leave. Or what, did the people not evacuate New Orleans on foot or floating door after Katrina?

Even someone out of shape can hike 10 miles in a day. You could be 60 miles inland after the second confirmed warning.

Ghost is dead on. There's no economic reason to sit in your house, awaiting the Wrath of God.

Anonymous DrTorch October 29, 2012 11:53 AM  

Agree, NoVA commute this morning was a breeze (pun intended). Very overcast, some winds and rain. In-laws are worried about falling trees (w/ plenty of precedent).

My house is about 1 mi from Upper Chesapeake, very low ground. No evac warnings, and recent stats say surge to be felt at Lower Chesapeake, not Upper. Good news for us.

Vrye- everybody knows it's the chemtrails...

Anonymous snowdog October 29, 2012 11:58 AM  

I'm in the direct path of it here in Trenton, NJ (hoping I'm not standing between the political cesspool of Trenton and God's judgement on it), but well inland. Not expecting much more than a power outage and a flooded basement... assuming those couple trees in my backyard make it through.

OpenID newrebeluniv October 29, 2012 12:09 PM  

How to avoid looters: Don't live in a slum. Civilization collapses first in those places that never had a very firm grasp on it in the first place. Here in Virginia, we are expecting neighbors to help each other out, just like we always do.

Blogger James Dixon October 29, 2012 12:10 PM  

> Hundreds of them went to Florence, South Carolina

Florence is like 60 miles inland. They should have gone at least to Camden, preferably Columbia.

Anonymous YIH October 29, 2012 12:13 PM  

Apeman:
Atlantic City is under water. There is at least some people for whom this is no joke already.
So someone landed on Water Works. I've been to Atlantic City, it's called flushing the toilet.

Anonymous JartStar October 29, 2012 12:16 PM  

Daniel and others.

I know it's tough to comprehend, but there are literally thousands of people who either don't have reliable transportation, the ability to walk very far (elderly or sick), no friends around to speak of, and $10 in their bank accounts. Now this group of people would be a very small percentage of the population. Let's just say 1%, but if it is 1% of 1 million = 10,000. I'd say that the percentage is larger than this, maybe 2-5% so you can see how thousands are simply left behind when millions leave.

Vox's idea of a pleasant week in a B&B is farcical as I've been through an evacuation and for 500+ miles there may be no vacancies, empty gas stations, half the evacuating population has < $1000 savings, and 8-36+ hours of sitting in traffic. Then when you finally arrive at your destination you get wonder if when you get back if your home will still exist.

Oh I know, everyone here has perfect insurance, $100,000 in savings, a 60 second "go bag", a four wheel drive vehicle with extra gas storage, never worry about material possessions, etc.

If you live in a coastal area you should be prepared, but MPAI so you get tens of thousands who aren't.

Anonymous patrick kelly October 29, 2012 12:21 PM  

"The HAARP array has been turned up to eleven for the past week and centered over New York City."

I'm skeptical as I don't see why the expected increased gov't emergency radio communications, along with every ARES and RACES network activating to entertain and empower the local Ham radio hordes couldn't account for increased activity along a very wide spectrum (1800khz - 1.2mhz).

One of the things I actually have first hand experience and know lots of stuff about, so if you blow smoke at me, I'll just take another sip of scotch and light up my own cigar and grin at the all the bs blowing past me....(yawn....)

Anonymous 691 October 29, 2012 12:26 PM  

This is obviously a devious plot by the confederacy to evacuate all the Yankees into fema camps where they will be forced to watch a never ending loop of sec teams winning six straight bcs titles.

Northerners also don't know how to cope with hurricanes. The word from some of my incredulous friends now living in NYC is that the locals have bought out all the Fiji bottled water, leaving tons of beer/wine/liquor on the shelves. What the heck do you expect to do for several days with the power out except binge drink?

Anonymous Kickass October 29, 2012 12:36 PM  

Vox, it is clear you have never had to evacuate.

Also the hurricane is not the big deal, the area it is coming on land where it will slam into a cold front is the frankenstorm part.

If you are prepped and have anything remotely worth anything, you dont leave. You also dont build your house on the sandy land.

Last, many people have emergency functions to their jobs and cannot leave.

Anonymous Kaz October 29, 2012 12:38 PM  

Electricity still on. Delaware route 24 is under water and so is the road to Oak Orchard. All boat docks in the vicinity are under water. Local reports have Ocean City, Maryland underwater.
Building on a barrier islands can have its drawbacks. Sandy is still at sea.

Kaz

Anonymous Jack Amok October 29, 2012 12:39 PM  

Then drive your car inland until you run out of gas and stay in your car. Staying because "you can't afford to leave" is BS.

So, you live in a house so poortly built or located that you have a better chance of surviving huddled up in your car on the side of the road? Daniel's idea is even worse, hiking off into the woods and sleeping on the ground.

Seriously, your house should be the place you have the best chance of surviving in. If it isn't, you built it in the wrong damn place.

Anonymous Kickass October 29, 2012 12:40 PM  

Prediction, the election gets delayed indefinitly due to storm. Then the Mormons rise up. Also zombie apocalypse in Atlantic city.

Anonymous Kickass October 29, 2012 12:43 PM  

Lastly, I agree...if you are one of the knucleheads who is flooded out but wont leave or decides to go swimming.......leave first responders alone.

Anonymous Kickass October 29, 2012 12:48 PM  

Strange, the local Jersey paper quotes a man whoses relatives in Florida are begging him to evacuate because they are seeing fighting over gasoline and food in the aftermath. Nothing online about that yet though.....no news reports. Must not be true.

Anonymous Tom B October 29, 2012 12:53 PM  

Friggin Yankee wimps...Hell, I packed, moved and unpacked a moving van in a category three hurricane back when I lived in Jacksonville.

Blogger Desert Cat October 29, 2012 12:58 PM  

patrick kelly October 29, 2012 12:21 PM
I'm skeptical as I don't see why the expected increased gov't emergency radio communications, along with every ARES and RACES network activating to entertain and empower the local Ham radio hordes couldn't account for increased activity along a very wide spectrum (1800khz - 1.2mhz).


Other than the fact that the extreme levels detected have been up since the 19th, when Sandy was not even a threat yet. Enjoy your scotch.

I have no smoke to blow and am skeptical of all this stuff as well. I do not have a closed mind about it however. Knowing who TPTB allegedly are and some of what their agenda is, it would not surprise me. After all, they have an election to disrupt, and a deadline for some major societal changes to accomplish.

Anonymous Anonymous October 29, 2012 1:02 PM  

"Strange, the local Jersey paper quotes a man whoses relatives in Florida are begging him to evacuate because they are seeing fighting over gasoline and food in the aftermath. Nothing online about that yet though.....no news reports. Must not be true."

What is the local Jersey paper? I saw people buying shite, including Halloween candy. Lines, but no riots or fights (yet). I live in Jersey City, but not in the dark area...

Anonymous Anonymous October 29, 2012 1:07 PM  

"Also zombie apocalypse in Atlantic city."

Has been a zombie apocalypse in AC for years.

Anonymous CunningDove October 29, 2012 1:10 PM  

When Rita hit Texas a while back, our overlords shut down traffic flow north on Hwy-59. This forced all the people to take I-45. Of course there was no gas & no hotel rooms to be had along I-45. Marginally sensible people like my sibling that lived in Houston at the time dutifully went up 45 until they could bail off & head East toward home. I also had some friends that stuck out Rita in Houston. She didn't hit the city very hard - landfall was in the swamp country to the east of Houston. So the problems experienced with evacuation for Rita were really not because of the storm, but because our nannies tried to squeeze everyone into a tiny geographical area.

Anonymous YIH October 29, 2012 1:12 PM  

@Kickass:
Also zombie apocalypse in Atlantic city. AKA 'normal'.
Strange, the local Jersey paper quotes a man whoses relatives in Florida are begging him to evacuate because they are seeing fighting over gasoline and food in the aftermath. Nothing online about that yet though.....no news reports. Must not be true. Likely not.
Friggin Yankee wimps...Hell, I packed, moved and unpacked a moving van in a category three hurricane back when I lived in Jacksonville. Smart to flee Jax, storm or no storm. I still can't figure out why the NFL put a team there. Worst attendance and worst TV ratings of all NFL cities.

Anonymous Clay October 29, 2012 1:15 PM  

New York City is the cat litter box of the world. HAARP can have it.

Hey, maybe they used HAARP on New Orleans with Katrina.

If so...good job. It's a lot nicer city now than it was before Katrina...(even though that bitch took the back of my roof off. And I live about 190 miles inland.)

I still remember Camille. I was only nine years old. You don't forget one like that.

Anonymous Anonymous October 29, 2012 1:18 PM  

"If so...good job. It's a lot nicer city now than it was before Katrina...(even though that bitch took the back of my roof off. And I live about 190 miles inland.)"

Heard that many of the negroes left NOLA after that storm. Sometimes weather can clean out your city like bleach in a toilet: Keep it white!

Anonymous YIH October 29, 2012 1:27 PM  

@Anon (please pick a nickname):
Heard that many of the negroes left NOLA after that storm. Sometimes weather can clean out your city like bleach in a toilet: Keep it white!
Then they darkened up Houston. Crime rates went up there after Katrina.

Anonymous rycamor October 29, 2012 1:29 PM  

One thing a lot of people don't understand about hurricanes is that the damage is not uniformly a result of X mph winds and X inches of rain over X hours, or even the storm surge but the tornadoes that spring up in the middle of a hurricane. That's why you might ride out a 70-mph storm with nothing but a few lost roof shingles while a half mile away a whole block of houses is turned into rubble. This tends to happen with Category 4 and up hurricanes, though. The tornadoes that can spring up in a cat 5 are unreal.

When Andrew hit in '92, I had no idea about this, and stood watching the thing unfold standing in a recessed doorway in my apartment, watching a line of Live oak and pine trees slowly turn sideways. To me it looked bad, but livable. I could have walked across the field, or the golf course behind, maybe getting swept off my feet a few times, but otherwise surviving, as long as a large tree branch didn't hit me. Only later did I was just lucky not to be in the path of a tornado. Some tornadoes had clocked >200mph winds, and people had been sucked out of houses, boats thrown half a mile inland, cars flipped over houses, and whole buildings demolished.

Blogger Leni Dog October 29, 2012 1:44 PM  

Lives through Floyd in 99 in NJ. 9 feet of water in house. That sucked. Be safe Dread Ilk.

Anonymous Stingray October 29, 2012 1:45 PM  

this warning from the National Weather Service is weirdly sentimental

Not really. As you've talked about at Alpha Game, people don't do logic any more and the people that do logic don't believe the storm will be that bad because of all the hype for past storms. They are simply using rhetoric to get people to leave. It's quite clever actually.

Anonymous YIH October 29, 2012 1:47 PM  

@rycamor:
the tornadoes that spring up in the middle of a hurricane. That's why you might ride out a 70-mph storm with nothing but a few lost roof shingles
Bingo. That's what caused most of the damage during Charlie. The 80mph winds and heavy rain did some damage (live oak trees because the roots are so close to the surface) and killed power for five days. But the random twisters really wrecked things.

Blogger JD Curtis October 29, 2012 2:03 PM  


Unbiased media worried that Obama might not be able to exploit Hurricane Sandy sufficiently

Anonymous Tank October 29, 2012 2:12 PM  

Northern, NJ

Just windy so far.

Worst yet to come.

Anonymous Anonymous October 29, 2012 2:18 PM  

"Worst yet to come."

Diversity on the way!

- Sicilian Schutzstaffel

(Does this name work, YIH?)

Anonymous DPD October 29, 2012 3:14 PM  

Lake Huron the waves are in the 15 to 20 foot range and expected to get as high as 25 foot.

Anonymous Daniel October 29, 2012 3:15 PM  

Oh Jeez. Yeah, lets try to pilot the HMS Bounty around a hurricane. I'm sure we'll be fine.

So much for the zero fatalities.

Anonymous Anonymous October 29, 2012 3:22 PM  

Oh Jeez. Yeah, lets try to pilot the HMS Bounty around a hurricane. I'm sure we'll be fine.

So much for the zero fatalities
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You don't need a storm, just a WOP at the wheel. Avanti Costa Concordia! Reminds me of the joke:

Q: Why do the ships of the new Italian Navy have glass bottoms?
A: So they can see the old Italian Navy.

Basta!

Anonymous Rantor October 29, 2012 3:32 PM  

Home from work, Wind destroyed my umbrella on the way to the parking lot but with Gore Tex pants, trench coat and ball cap I stayed pretty dry. Very little traffic all the way home. Drove 60-70 most of the way in my little BMW.

Mrs Rantor has baked fresh pumpkin bread and made a stew. Plenty of wine to go with that. Time for a workout and hoping that the power stays on. (Newer neighborhood, underground lines, room to hope - althogh we were powerless for four days or so with Snowmaggedon last winter.)

Anonymous duckman October 29, 2012 3:34 PM  

So, if you're in the storm's path, get out of Dodge and take it easy.

Actually, it might be better to get into Dodge. Kansas is about as far from any major bodies of water as any place on this side of the planet.

Anonymous Tank October 29, 2012 4:52 PM  

Need chain saw.

Anonymous Anonymous October 29, 2012 6:19 PM  

duckman,
Looks like Dodge may be going to Italy.

Anonymous SouthTX October 29, 2012 6:51 PM  

Josh October 29, 2012 9:38 AM
This is obviously a devious plot by the confederacy to evacuate all the Yankees into fema camps where they will be forced to watch a never ending loop of sec teams winning six straight bcs titles.

:) Yankee purgatory

Anonymous Kickass October 29, 2012 7:00 PM  

Sounds like a train over my house. Power out, but too crazy out to turn on the gennie. Large tree in front yard split down the middle three ways. In front of fire wishing I could break out the moscato.

Hope to see you all tomorrow.
God bless.

Blogger Markku October 29, 2012 7:25 PM  

It's funny how New York is EXACTLY in the worst possible place, as far as Sandy goes. Fastest circular movement around the eye at that distance from the eye, and not only that but it is in the one place where the velocity of the eye of the storm is added to it.

Anonymous Jack Amok October 29, 2012 8:14 PM  

Oh, and if all else fails, get on your replica 18th Century Man-O-War and set sail towards the storm.

Anonymous AdognamedOp October 29, 2012 8:35 PM  

NYC here. Light rain and strong wind gusts. Wind changed direction last hour or so. Was coming from the NE now it's coming from the SE. I'm about a mile from nearest coastline 100ft above sea level so water surge not a problem.

Anonymous The other skeptic October 29, 2012 8:47 PM  

Can you run away from this

Anonymous Josh October 29, 2012 8:51 PM  

It's funny how New York is EXACTLY in the worst possible place, as far as Sandy goes. Fastest circular movement around the eye at that distance from the eye, and not only that but it is in the one place where the velocity of the eye of the storm is added to it.

There is a God...

Blogger LP 999/Eliza October 29, 2012 8:54 PM  

Weirdly sentimental indeed. The warnings were down right creepy.

PA is so-so, heavy winds, some flooded roads towards the east, plenty of rain. Family and I are fine. WV is being clipped with high winds, heavy rain, some local flooding. Parents are safely tucked away in a hospital with plenty of electricity.

I caught some cnn, hln and fox, empty cars are flooding down wall street. Nancy Grace is quite bummed out she cannot talk about the latest media diversion, she is not enjoying having to stick with the obsessional storm coverage.

The lady of liberty's fire going out is ironic, symbolic, and completely deserving for NYC.

It is nice to learn that portions of our least favorite cities have not yet pulled the global warming card.

I send my prayers and wishes for everyones safety.

Anonymous zen0 October 29, 2012 9:05 PM  

The lady of liberty's fire going out is ironic, symbolic, and completely deserving for NYC. Only if you believe it actually is a symbol of Liberty, and not a pagan icon, which much material asserts.

In that case, the light going out is a good sign. The power of the illusion is cut off.

Anonymous AdognamedOp October 29, 2012 9:20 PM  

Got my scanner set to the Fire dept. Lot of activity right now. Just heard one fireman say "it's a creepy scene here", regarding the flooded East side of Manhattan. Was tracking an attempt to reach a house where people are trapped in an attic. Fire Dept tried to get the harbor patrol cops to reach the house with a motorized rubber raft but they turned back due to "strong wind". Lots of blown transformers around the outer boroughs. What I thought were lightning flashes were actually transformer boxes blowing out all over the area. Hearing lots of "We're not gonna be able to get there" responses from FD units. Interesting night.

Anonymous E. PERLINE October 29, 2012 9:32 PM  

Another scary thought:
The 8 buildings of our condo paid flood insurance (with no claims) for 39 years. When Wilma hit, our insurance company went bankrupt. Our maintenance must include payments on a four million dollar loan.

Anonymous zen0 October 29, 2012 9:36 PM  

The peak threat hours are supposed to be 7-10 p.m., so you have another half hour before the energy begins to abate.

Blogger Tank October 30, 2012 10:30 AM  

Alive.

Trees down.

No power.

But, all safe, so we live to see further doom and destruction to America.

Anonymous Clay October 30, 2012 6:12 PM  

"Josh October 29, 2012 8:51 PM It's funny how New York is EXACTLY in the worst possible place, as far as Sandy goes. Fastest circular movement around the eye at that distance from the eye, and not only that but it is in the one place where the velocity of the eye of the storm is added to it.

There is a God..."


Yah. We can only hope for a fish hurricane now, in the Baltic Sea.

Anonymous bw November 03, 2012 2:50 PM  

No worries. The Red Cross will be there.

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