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Thursday, November 08, 2012

It's too late, Republicans

Ron Paul, who was rejected by Republicans in favor of the supposedly more electable Mitt Romney, concludes it is Game Over for the USA as well:
Rep. Ron Paul, whose maverick presidential bids shook the GOP, said in the wake of this week's elections that the country has already veered over the fiscal cliff and he sees no chance of righting ship in a country where too many people are dependent on government.

"We're so far gone. We're over the cliff," the Texas Republican told Bloomberg Television's "In the Loop" program. "We cannot get enough people in Congress in the next 5-10 years who will do wise things."
Since the "drive toward the cliff slower" strategy has worked so well, perhaps Republicans will now consider attempting a "fall slower" approach.

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76 Comments:

Blogger R. Bradley Andrews November 08, 2012 7:12 PM  

My wife was still in favor of Romney, but glumly noted Tuesday night that my prediction of driving faster to the wall would happen after all.

Too many really think that driving slower toward the walls in our future is a valid strategy.

Anonymous DonReynolds November 08, 2012 7:19 PM  

This comment by Ron Paul is poorly timed. Had he been the nominee and had he been elected President last Tuesday, he would find the situation ("over the cliff" and "too far gone") to be exactly the same. So we have to wonder, is he saying he is not up to the job...or is he saying he is glad he was not nominated/elected since the country is too far gone...or does he now find the job simply too big to handle.

Now before you start screaming, I voted for Dr. Paul in the Republican primary in 2008 and 2012. I think he is a fine fellow and a great man, but his comments seem to be poorly timed.

Anonymous Stickwick November 08, 2012 7:19 PM  

... perhaps Republicans will now consider attempting a "fall slower" approach.

The way they've been denying fiscal realities, they might as well deny that acceleration due to gravity is 9.8 m/s^2. Lessee now, where'd we stow those parachutes ...

Anonymous Servant November 08, 2012 7:27 PM  

Ron Paul was less electable than Romney - because he spoke closer to the truth and as you can see, the voting public (particularly blacks and single women) do not like truth if it gets in the way of their convenience and getting stuff. The America I supported for twenty years in the military (and the constitution I took an oath to preserve) are gone (and have been the last several presidents). As I said I will now devote my political efforts to another losing but worthy cause of having Texas secede from the union.

Anonymous Enoch Powell November 08, 2012 7:31 PM  

Ron Paul is correct as far as he goes, but even he completely surrendered on the question of immigration. Paul is another idiot who somehow doesn't understand how highly destructive it is to let in millions of third-world savages during even the best of times, much less during the worst economic depression in history.

Paul, and those like him, can't be that stupid. It must be a character flaw. It must be simple cowardice. Ron Paul is another White coward who can't talk about anything but economic adjustments. Nothing else matters because once you admit there are other problems, it implies that you just might have to do something about them. Too scary.

Anonymous Godfrey November 08, 2012 7:36 PM  

Ron Paul could have defeated Obama for two reasons:

1 Ending the endless war(s)
2 Restoring civil liberties

Those are the two main reasons I, and many other libertarians, refused to vote for Romney.

Anonymous Cheddarman November 08, 2012 7:43 PM  

Ron Paul is correct as far as he goes, but even he completely surrendered on the question of immigration. - Enoch Powell

I disagree, Ron Paul believes in the Rule of Law, and would enforce the laws already on the books concerning immigration. This would go a long way toward addressing the problem.

Anonymous Anonymous November 08, 2012 7:51 PM  

If Romney was toxic because he was a successful businessman with an R after his name, and Todd Akin and Richard Mourdock also had Rs after their names and scared the bejesus out of enough women in the swing states to keep them in the Obama camp, you think Ron Paul would have done better after the leftist media got done with him? Please. The gimmedat coalition now owns this country. Hallelujah.

Anonymous zen0 November 08, 2012 7:58 PM  

So we have to wonder, is he saying he is not up to the job...or is he saying he is glad he was not nominated/elected since the country is too far gone...or does he now find the job simply too big to handle.

@Don Reynolds.

My take on it was he was simply stating that the election demonstrated conclusively that nothing can be done in time. If the Senate had gone Republican, there was a glimmer of hope to change direction.

Basically, citing the Gm bailout demonstrates too much of the electorate is corrupted to be able to even understand their predicament.

Anonymous dh November 08, 2012 7:59 PM  

> and Todd Akin and Richard Mourdock also had Rs after their names and scared the bejesus out of
> enough women in the swing states to keep them in the Obama camp

There is no compatibility between attempting to impose pseudo-scientific garbage like "legitimate rape" and conservatism.

Anonymous Apeman November 08, 2012 8:09 PM  

I don't know why people are so down on driving slower towards the wall. I know I am going to die but I am not going to try to make it happen faster just because I know that is my fate.

Having said that, I doubt that Rommeny would have driven any slower.

Anonymous DonReynolds November 08, 2012 8:13 PM  

Enoch Powell..."Ron Paul is correct as far as he goes, but even he completely surrendered on the question of immigration. Paul is another idiot who somehow doesn't understand how highly destructive it is to let in millions of third-world savages during even the best of times, much less during the worst economic depression in history."

Some of the more faithful Ron Paul supporters have squirmed and dodged this one for years, claiming he had not taken a public position on immigration....which was false.

Ron Paul is a man of principle and integrity. He is consistent to the values he believes. He is also a consistent Libertarian and any such person is going to necessarily be open borders. Libertarians deny there is any need for government or the nation state. They therefore do not believe in national borders.

I cannot be a Libertarian because there is no national patriotism in the movement. I am much too nationalistic to be a Libertarian but I seriously enjoy talking to them about free enterprise economics. They happen to believe it can be worldwide and I know, if it could happen in the USA, it would certainly exist nowhere else.

Anonymous LES November 08, 2012 8:15 PM  

What is the wall and what happens when we hit it? Hyper-inflation
or monetize the debt?

Anonymous Beau November 08, 2012 8:24 PM  

What is the wall and what happens when we hit it?

Totalitarianism. When they start taking American citizens to the FEMA camps.

Blogger Red Bane November 08, 2012 8:27 PM  

In response to Enoch Powell:

You can't be seriously that naive to accept the false notion that the voting public elect representatives!? The media declared Obama the victor before all the ballots had been counted for crying out loud.Check out the work of Bev Harris at Black box voting. org.
It is not 3rd world savages but rather the corrupt and degraded white elite,internationalists, who front round table groups such as the CFR and Trilateral commission to name but 2 such groups, who have brought this nation and others to their current point in time and space.

Blogger RobertT November 08, 2012 8:32 PM  

Les
"What is the wall and what happens when we hit it? Hyper-inflation
or monetize the debt?"

I'm not the expert but I expect pretty much a complete collapse of the American economy, 50% unemployment, or more (government worker at the very least), possible insurrection, shortages of everything, including food, gas, electricity, water, you name it. But that's just my take. And because we are so militarily aggressive and we'll be defaulting on everyone, we won't have many friends in the world. I hope I'm wrong.

Try to make a lot of money and move to Singapore before it hits.

Anonymous Tom B November 08, 2012 8:36 PM  

"Too many really think that driving slower toward the walls in our future is a valid strategy."

Only in the sense that it bought more time to get the RP/TP revolution a firmer place in the American mindset. I fear Mr. Paul is correct; its too late.

We've given those who would have temporarily suffered setbacks nowhere else but the government to go for a helping hand (just look at those on Staten Island right now), and now its trapped them mind, body and soul. They used Hayek's Road to Serfdom not as a warning, but a blueprint to enslave us.

Blogger Red Bane November 08, 2012 8:40 PM  

How can one "revolt" against the monolith of internationally controlled global governance in the guise of national sovereignty? *scratches head" .Are we to take on the whole world? Its a bit like punching yourself in the face to make yourself stop punching yourself in the face.In other words...the political process is a sham and trying to work out your salvation within such a system is stupid and pointless.

Blogger tz November 08, 2012 8:53 PM  

They've created a bipartisan coalition to repeal the law of supply of demand.

Why don't you think they will not repeal the law of gravity?

I'm not as hopeless, but realize the substitute to statutory term limits is often lynching and assassination.

Yet if they have no heads, the guillotine will merely amputate an entirely unused appendage.

The reason I don't think Osama was responsible for 9/11 is that the pentagon and white house were targets. He said he hated America. I can't reconcile the two.

Atlas Shrugged is a horror story. At least if you read through to the end and transpose 50 years to now about what is about to happen. The Anti-Christ would be less cruel than nature, reality.

Anonymous Roundtine November 08, 2012 8:54 PM  

Have you seen this: Several ‘Ron Paul Republicans’ win closely contested House races

I don't know enough about the districts or the candidates, but this type of info is interesting:

In a neighboring Michigan district, Ron Paul Republican Kerry Bentivolio was elected to the House seat formerly held by GOP Rep. Thaddeus McCotter. McCotter, who had failed to gather enough valid signatures to appear on the ballot, resigned from the House amid a petition scandal. Bentivolio beat Democrat Syed Taj.

Bentivolio spent four decades in the U.S. Army, but was painted by opponents as an eccentric. He raised reindeer and was an occasional Santa Claus. He was elected to Congress by a 7-point margin.

Anonymous Azimus November 08, 2012 8:54 PM  

There will be no Armageddeon event, and there will be no Civil War and "The Grid" will not go down. There will be no need for your expensive retreat in tbe mountains or pallets of freeze-dried beans or high powered rifles. The end will come for America in the slow, numbing, grinding, inexorable way. There won't be food shortages, there will be plenty of dogfood for us to eat. You will have all the shoes and clothes you can buy - but they won't last a tenth as long as the ones you bought in the 1990's. You'll still be able to vote, but it won't matter who you vote for. You'll have a job you hate that will work you to the bone and keep you up nights worrying if you will keep it. The news, which you ignore to try and keep sane, will be all bad, or all lies. The last institution to fail will be the Armed Forces. When they do fail, you won't notice because no one will have told you and chances are you will despise them anyway. No, when America slips under the waves, no one but no one will care.

Anonymous Salt November 08, 2012 8:56 PM  

perhaps Republicans will now consider attempting a "fall slower" approach

Gravity shall not be mocked.

Anonymous Noah B. November 08, 2012 8:56 PM  

Fear not, for one man still stands boldly between Obama and his vision of pillaging the wealth of the United States and crushing Americans beneath the jackboot of federal tyranny: John Boehner.

Blogger Red Bane November 08, 2012 8:57 PM  

"Atlas Shrugged is a horror story. At least if you read through to the end and transpose 50 years to now about what is about to happen."

Your not wrong.I could never fathom the "libertarian" love affair with this book.It is essentially a treatise on the false notion that labor and capitol are separate and distinguishable,which is to say the book upholds this false notion. and for the most part,you and I are killed off by Rand's elite super capitalists and genius's.Pure vanity.

Blogger Red Bane November 08, 2012 8:59 PM  

Azismus says:

"..You'll still be able to vote, but it won't matter who you vote for..."

Already there brother, and have been for several decades now....

Anonymous Jack Amok November 08, 2012 9:14 PM  

Since the "drive toward the cliff slower" strategy has worked so well, perhaps Republicans will now consider attempting a "fall slower" approach

The Looney Tunes metaphors suggest themselves Fast and Furrious. The Dems are employing the Wiley E. Coyote strategy of "you won't fall until you look down, so don't look down." The Republicans will maybe next employ the strategy of opening an umbrella (which will promptly go inside out).

But I keep thinking of another Looney Tunes cartoon where Daffy falls off a cliff. As he plumets towards the ground screaming, Bugs asks the audience "I wonder if he'll remember he can fly?"

I wonder if the American public will remember we can just repudiate the pension funds, the government bonds, the SEIU contracts, the regulations, and the entire artificial Prog superstructure and just go back to making and doing stuff? We can indeed fly, we just need to let go of the boat anchors we're holding onto.


Anonymous bw November 08, 2012 9:27 PM  

RP was a litmus test to discover how economically educated and beholden to the MIC Americans are/are not.
The comments from the Utopian, free sh*t trolls around here pre and post erection are a good metric as well.
1+1 =/172. Math is a bitch.
I also love watching all of the layoffs immediately after elections.

Anonymous Josh November 08, 2012 9:30 PM  

Ron Paul is correct as far as he goes, but even he completely surrendered on the question of immigration. Paul is another idiot who somehow doesn't understand how highly destructive it is to let in millions of third-world savages during even the best of times, much less during the worst economic depression in history.

How did he surrender?

Anonymous Matt November 08, 2012 9:32 PM  

As I said I will now devote my political efforts to another losing but worthy cause of having Texas secede from the union.

Losing? I dunno, maybe not. The superglue that holds the US together is the gigantic torrent of cash pouring out of Capital Hill. When it quits - and mathematically it will - nothing will be holding this country together.

I don't know what will end up happening to it. Will be interesting though.

Anonymous Azimus November 08, 2012 9:33 PM  

@ Red Bane

You kind of tapped into my subtle point Red Bane. What of it hasn't happened? I would say the last nail went in with the death of Reagan's Army. Today's politician-general led, perverse social experiment of an armed forces can't beat a handful of Pashtun shepherd boys. There are still fine men in the Armed Forces don't get me wrong, and even some excellent officers,, but the institution as a whole is broken, and has been since Bush broke it in Iraq.

Blogger Carnivore November 08, 2012 9:35 PM  

@Azimus "There will be no Armageddeon event, and there will be no Civil War and "The Grid" will not go down."

Agreed it's not a sure thing. However, unrest, war and revolution can come before things get half as bad.

http://lewrockwell.com/douglas/douglas66.1.html

Anonymous Matthew November 08, 2012 9:53 PM  

Laibach has words for us: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwADLAQAe0A

Anonymous max November 08, 2012 9:57 PM  

"How did he surrender?"

Yes. To some on this site, if he doesn't support a new widespread TSA-style immigration enforcement and deportation, he is soft on immigration. He supports a state's rights to deny all benefits to illegal immigrants which is a great start.

Blogger Red Bane November 08, 2012 10:14 PM  

Azimus says:

"... There are still fine men in the Armed Forces don't get me wrong, and even some excellent officers,, but the institution as a whole is broken, and has been since Bush broke it in Iraq.. "

Oh,it goes back way further than Bush.Read General Smedley Butler's "War is a Racket".

Anonymous Spectator November 08, 2012 10:15 PM  

You know I always thought Vox views on things were at least somewhat alarmist (if well informed) but today I really get it, it doesn't appear there is much hope at all, least of all for the republicans, basically we are going to have the Hard Left, Center Left Republicans, and with any luck that will split the Conservative vote enough to create and opening for a third party. Unless like the Democrats handling of the Great Scare they manage to cock things up well enough that people jettison them. The best case would be both. I've now drank the VP koolaid, and have seriously considered placing what meager savings I can into silver (I read the ebook that he wrote about not long ago) to hedge against the ultimate continued inflation of QE1k

Anonymous NateM November 08, 2012 10:17 PM  

Stickwick November 08, 2012 7:19 PM

... perhaps Republicans will now consider attempting a "fall slower" approach.

The way they've been denying fiscal realities, they might as well deny that acceleration due to gravity is 9.8 m/s^2. Lessee now, where'd we stow those parachutes ...


The golden parachutes have already been handed out to Goldman and Co courtesy of the US Tax Payer, and sadly no more are available

Blogger Red Bane November 08, 2012 10:21 PM  

Spectator says:

"..basically we are going to have the Hard Left, Center Left Republicans, and with any luck that will split the Conservative vote enough to create and opening for a third party..."

And once that third party (we actually already have a 3rd party and more)figures it out that it's very existence depends on it's acceptance of the fact that various International round table groups run the show,what then? Tune in last week to see your future.

Anonymous Aeoli Pera November 08, 2012 10:28 PM  

I predict that the eventual solution will be the elimination of paper money in favor of digital money, plus a lot of shenanigans. And a lot of econometric formulas saying that everything is magically okay.

Plus a push for a central world bank/government to oversee the magical solution. But that goes without saying.

Anonymous Godfrey November 08, 2012 10:30 PM  

I used to be angry with liberals, but now I just feel sorry for them. It is like being a Jew standing in line for the gas chamber and the Jew next to you line is smiling and laughing thinking he’s merely in line for a shower. The simple fool is almost endearing in a strange way. Why tell him any different? Could he comprehend it anyway?

Do you really think a liberal understands things like trillion dollar deficits and multi-trillion dollar unfunded liabilities? Do you think he understands the law of supply and demand? Or can he understand the cycle of history and the rise and fall of civilizations? He doesn’t even understand procreation and the cycle of life. No, he is the Jew in the cattle car who thinks he’s headed to a resort. Looking at him makes one either laugh or cry.

Anonymous Geoff-UK November 08, 2012 11:17 PM  

Azimus,
I hope you're right, but I'm expecting a more exciting conclusion on a shorter time-line. Again, really hoping I'm wrong.

Anonymous Shirley U. Geste-Goodfryer November 08, 2012 11:23 PM  

Everywhere, white people begin to See: "Night Cometh"

Anonymous A Visitor November 08, 2012 11:26 PM  

You will have all the shoes and clothes you can buy - but they won't last a tenth as long as the ones you bought in the 1990's. I miss the '90s, good times for sure. I'm going to call my reps and ask them to let us go off the fiscal cliff. I'd rather get it over with now than later. I have a long life to live.

Anonymous Vidad November 08, 2012 11:27 PM  

Spectator "I've now drank the VP koolaid, and have seriously considered placing what meager savings I can into silver"

Do it. Now.

Anonymous The OASF November 08, 2012 11:28 PM  

"Do you really think a liberal understands things like trillion dollar deficits and multi-trillion dollar unfunded liabilities?"

Ok, but what does the conservative understand? The war on nonexistent turrism and executing people for mp3 file swapping? when a conservative does get around to calling for austerity it always involves crushing the poor and downtrodden - the least threat to anyone. Never are the real criminals ever called out by name, unless it's a preordained stooge like Barry Sorbekahaha or Ahmadinejad.

I don't agree with philosophy of social security and medicare and both probably should never have existed, but both are better than failed/pointless-anyhow trillion dollar, decades-long, illegal wars.

Blogger goldNRulz November 08, 2012 11:29 PM  

And look where that got us, good job!

Blogger goldNRulz November 08, 2012 11:36 PM  

I believe the government is so inept they will lose entire boxcars full of republicans on the way to the camps.......be happy.

Anonymous Anonymous November 09, 2012 12:10 AM  

"when a conservative does get around to calling for austerity it always involves crushing the poor and downtrodden - the least threat to anyone."

There are no poor and/or downtrodden in the US, you stupid clown. But there are threats. And they are niggers.

Anonymous Patriot... Act. November 09, 2012 12:16 AM  

Everywhere, white people begin to See: "Night Cometh"

The white man needs to pull out his pecker and start breeding... again. But first, they must regrow their balls.

Anonymous cmc November 09, 2012 12:27 AM  

What is our theme song/anthem?

Anonymous Roundtine November 09, 2012 12:58 AM  

Today's politician-general led, perverse social experiment of an armed forces can't beat a handful of Pashtun shepherd boys.

You couldn't beat a five year old girl if I gave you a piece of string and restricted you to using one hand.

Anonymous Idle Pepper Brooks November 09, 2012 1:16 AM  

Effin' A, Vox, effin' A.

Ron Paul not being there will insure that people do not vote for Ron Paul.

I feel shocked!

Anonymous Elmer Fudge (friend of Sexual Chocolate) November 09, 2012 1:27 AM  

I can recount RP saying in public forum, that we must work within the system. Now, it appears he has actually conceded the point, that former NYPD Sgt. Sekzer expressed in '05:

There is something wrong with the entire system.

This forum at Eric Peters is really hot at the moment. I'm JCDenton there.

While I'm at it, if any here live in Austin, check my ads on craigslist. (Subj: The Nephilim)

Anonymous Gen. Kong November 09, 2012 2:49 AM  

Weepin' Johnny and his brokeback boys in the Repuke Bath House have already assumed their favorite positions for Barry-O the Magic Knee-Grow, who is scheduled to announce his satisfaction with their performance a couple of days - with swagga. And to think that Repukes like Jonah Goldberg ridiculed the French for being cowards.... Vichy Republicans would be an inappropriately honorable term for them.

Anonymous Gen. Kong November 09, 2012 3:09 AM  

Godfrey:
Ron Paul could have defeated Obama for two reasons:

1 Ending the endless war(s)
2 Restoring civil liberties


You're wrong. Most of the idiocracy - especially the beloved new others - are not touched directly by the endless wars. They don't much care (except for Christian zionists who want war with Iran right now, and newly imported Muslims who oppose wars there - but wouldn't mind some nice jihad here in Dar-al-Harb). Dumbass dystopians in a democracy care even less about civil liberties. The single sluts, blacks and Mexicans get lots of free goodies from Uncle Benny and the Feds so they could care less about such abstractions authored by a bunch of soon-to-be forgotten dead evil honkey slave masters. The Chrisian zionist idiocrats think the DHS is needed to protect us from those wild turbaned Moose-limb goat-humpers from the pooppyfields (as the leftists in charge of their churches assist the regime's program of Muslim colonization of Minnesota and the like while they watch football on TeeeVeee). Paul is correct of course. It's over. There is no resistance. It's actually been over for a long time. The corpse is starting to stink more now. Folks were warned repeatedly for years and refused to listen or even to believe their lying eyes.

Anonymous Gen. Kong November 09, 2012 3:19 AM  

Noah B.
Fear not, for one man still stands boldly between Obama and his vision of pillaging the wealth of the United States and crushing Americans beneath the jackboot of federal tyranny: John Boehner.

GOLD BAZINGA! You win the thread! Yeeeeeeee-Haaaawwwwww!

Anonymous FrankNorman November 09, 2012 3:27 AM  

tz November 08, 2012 8:53 PM
The reason I don't think Osama was responsible for 9/11 is that the pentagon and white house were targets. He said he hated America. I can't reconcile the two.


Let me solve the riddle for you.
The "America" that the Bin Laden types hate is the Globalist-Internationalist, Corporate-Socialist one that puts military bases in countries all around the globe, sticks its meddling fingers in everywhere, makes up whatever rules will get it whatever it happens to want, and generally acts as if it owns the world.
That the "America" they are talking about.
They don't know of any other kind.

Anonymous Idle Spectator November 09, 2012 5:31 AM  

The Ron Paul article links over to this new one now:

Boehner opens door to “comprehensive” immigration

Seriously... just how stupid are these people? The problem is too much immigration. And they want to let even more in with amnesty.

I'm full. So maybe if I eat more I'll get more hungry.
This is bold strategy Republicans, let's see if it pays off.

Anonymous Idle Spectator November 09, 2012 5:35 AM  

With this level of frontal lobe dysfunction, I'm surprised he has managed to not mess his pants while giving speeches.

He's a big boy. He's making political posters with glitter without eating the glue.

Anonymous Anonymous November 09, 2012 7:01 AM  

Vox said it a long time ago, "What we have is a bi-factional ruling coalition." The two ruling parties are a tag team. It may not look like it but they both are working toward the same thing, the decline of this country to 2nd-3rd world status. The decline of the USA is no accident, it was planned to happen. Ron Paul called it "gradualism." Piece by piece, in the past by little pieces going un-noticed. Now in big chunks in your face.

maczmo

Blogger Red Bane November 09, 2012 7:28 AM  

Idle Spectator says:

"...Seriously... just how stupid are these people? The problem is too much immigration. And they want to let even more in with amnesty..."

Actually, unfettered immigration is just a tool in this case.It is the folk wielding the tool that are the problem.And of course it goes without saying that "they" have a very particular agenda that has no bearing on ones ethnicity or religion.

Blogger James Dixon November 09, 2012 8:30 AM  

> That the "America" they are talking about...They don't know of any other kind.

There is another kind? There used to be, but it's questionable as to whether there still is.

Anonymous Clay November 09, 2012 9:11 AM  

You know what they say about rats & sinking ships. I predict we'll see a buttload of Republicans switching over to the Democrat's side of the aisle. (If the "aisle" even exists any more).

Anonymous JaimeInTexas November 09, 2012 9:23 AM  

I am in favor of the death penalty for capital crimes in principle but oppose the deth penalty in practice. Same for open borders.

Ron Paul position on open borders / immigration is that until the welfare state is done away with, border security and immigration control must be enforced.

If I remember correctly, Murry Rothbard used to be an open border /immigration guy until he was corrected by the fact that, just as property owners, individually or in partnership, have the right to control access to such property, so do the "owners" of "public" lands. However that property became acquired, I will set aside for this topic.

I have discussed immigration with friend of mine, who is a Libertarian Party member. I have told him that until there are no more public lands, public roads, or welfare that any immigration allowed is a demand/tax/confiscation of my resources.

Therefore, I support open broder in principle but oppose it in practice.

Anonymous Stilicho November 09, 2012 9:39 AM  

Since the "drive toward the cliff slower" strategy has worked so well, perhaps Republicans will now consider attempting a "fall slower" approach.

Nah, "fall slower" will only be attempted after "treading air" fails to work.

Anonymous Godfrey November 09, 2012 9:42 AM  

"Ok, but what does the conservative understand? The war on nonexistent turrism and executing people for mp3 file swapping? when a conservative does get around to calling for austerity it always involves crushing the poor and downtrodden - the least threat to anyone. Never are the real criminals ever called out by name, unless it's a preordained stooge like Barry Sorbekahaha or Ahmadinejad.

I don't agree with philosophy of social security and medicare and both probably should never have existed, but both are better than failed/pointless-anyhow trillion dollar, decades-long, illegal wars."

The OASF



I agree.


Anonymous Viking November 09, 2012 9:54 AM  

A number of my Republican friends are now feeling that there may never be another Republican president. To which I mentioned at lunch yesterday, "Well if Republicans can get elected any more, then there is no reason to keep voting for them over an independent or libertarian that is actually a better candidate, right?" There was much grumbling.

Anonymous Azimus November 09, 2012 9:56 AM  

Roundtine November 09, 2012 12:58 AM
You couldn't beat a five year old girl if I gave you a piece of string and restricted you to using one hand.


That is just my point: bureaucratic rules of engagement are part of the army and part of why it is broken. Soldiers and weapons are only one aspect of the Armed Forces, and looking at it as a whole it is incapable of defeating the Pashtun insurrection.

Maybe you were agreeing with me?

Anonymous DonReynolds November 09, 2012 10:01 AM  

In a democracy, the majority get what they deserve. The USA was never intended to be a democracy but a Republic. The old Republic is finally dead. Those who wish to be ruled by the least common denominator can rejoice. We are there.

I wish I could be shocked or surprised how quickly the cowardly jackals and hyenas have finally overcome the lion by shear numbers. It seems the lion is being torn to pieces before he is actually dead. Our Republican "leaders" have decided on a new approach....to surrender, to suck dick, to present their anus, and grovel on the ground begging for mercy. But they will not earn any forgiveness or quarter by surrender. Our enemies do not want prisoners, they just want us gone. There is no place you can run or hide. Nowhere to retreat and there is no rotten bargain that you can make with your enemies that will buy time. Either you stay here alive or you stay here dead.

In all of the world throughout history, men can have whatever they can keep.....land, women, treasure....but if you cannot keep it, soon it will belong to other men. The world can do without you. Only you can make a place for yourself in this world. When you no longer have the will to make a place for yourself AT THE EXPENSE OF OTHERS, then you will be without and the world will be without you. It has never been any other way.

Anonymous Stilicho November 09, 2012 10:35 AM  

Everywhere, white people begin to See: "Night Cometh"

I haven't seen Bob Oculus around here lately. Good to see that he's up to no good.

Anonymous Anonymous November 09, 2012 12:27 PM  

"you will be without and the world will be without you. It has never been any other way."

Perhaps that's the point being made. We are not to be of this world but to be ambassadors from another regardless of the circumstances in which we now find ourselves. - Will

Anonymous JCclimber November 09, 2012 12:34 PM  

Ron Who?
You mean the unelectable member of the cult of christianity, a practicing physician who HASN'T outsourced thousands of jobs while taking profits annually in the $millions? That Ron?

Hey Republican LOSER MORONS, looks like going with the liberal "electable" candidate didn't work out so well for ya, ha?

I'm tempted this week when I see a Republican, to put that "L" finger sign on my forehead, just to mock them. Obama should have been the easiest sitting president to unseat since Ford.....

Blogger IM2L844 November 09, 2012 12:40 PM  

As long as liberals control the narrative, they will control the demographics. I don't see that changing unless something happens to draw an unmistakably obvious stark contrast between the narrative and the tangible reality experienced by the masses.

We're doomed. I'm going out to work on my garden.

Anonymous Idle Spectator November 09, 2012 12:47 PM  

Actually, unfettered immigration is just a tool in this case.It is the folk wielding the tool that are the problem.And of course it goes without saying that "they" have a very particular agenda that has no bearing on ones ethnicity or religion.

It does not matter if he is a stupid retard, or a stupid puppet. Stupid is as stupid does.

Anonymous Anonymous November 09, 2012 12:56 PM  

Controlling the narrative is correctly identified as the problem. 12-20 years of propaganda by the Public Indoctrination System, 8 hours a day five days a week and then another several unsupervised hours watching after school specials, Barney the homo dinosaur and the documentary of genocidal exploration of Columbus. A lot of groups contributed, (Welfare, Govt workers etc) but the majority were White, educated, workers voting against their own interests because their reality has been shaped by the narrative that IM2L844 describes. Until that gets fixed, everything else is just a bandaid.
-BooneWaxwell

Anonymous E. PERLINE November 09, 2012 1:52 PM  

In my condo of 400 apartments there are only 2 inhabitants I discuss politics with. One said "This was a good election to lose." I asked why, and he said "an addict has to roll in the gutter before anything changes."

The other inhabitant said the southern states should withdraw from the union and operate under a single party called the Free Enterprise Party. I asked--"How can their populations be divided?"
He said "by suspending all government handouts. Even if we get a smaller share of productive territory, we will have more enterprisers and do better."

Blogger Robert S. Oculus III November 09, 2012 6:59 PM  

Stilicho November 09, 2012 10:35 AM: I haven't seen Bob Oculus around here lately. Good to see that he's up to no good.

Thanks. Bob Oculus would prefer to keep his opinions to himself, but his unfortunate tendency towards white-knighting compels him to maintain a small blog, which has lately become the subject of some interest for a number of people.

If things weren't so damned grim, I'd be perfectly happy to fade from all human knowledge. I have no desire to be a celebrity. I guess I just never have been the kind of guy who could keep from being a smart-ass to the school bully.

I appreciate your concern, though. I'll try to drop in more frequently.

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