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Monday, November 05, 2012

Romney 305, Obama 233

Romney 305, Obama 233

I am aware that many of the national polls are projecting an election that goes down to the wire.  I am cognizant of the many hands being wrung about the possibility that the Electoral College vote will diverge from the popular vote. And it has been impossible to escape Nate Silver’s thrice-weekly predictions in the New York Times that Barack Obama has at least a 538 percent chance of winning the election tomorrow.

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Anonymous L.W. Dickel November 05, 2012 5:46 AM  

"Election day is almost here!! My hard-on for Romney is so intense that I fear my balls may explode."--Jesus Christ, in the sky.

Everybody needs to get out and vote for the Jeezus ticket. Otherwise the queers, atheists and evolutionists will take over the world!

Come on now. Don't piss off the Savior!

Anonymous Roundtine November 05, 2012 6:00 AM  

I saw Jim Sinclair though Romney will cause the currency collapse much sooner because he'll work against the Fed. I though Romney would boost the economy a bit and prolong things, but that's another possibility. However, it's also looking like an Obama win will be a loss for Obama, since Republicans look to gain seats, Obama has no agenda, he's going to face a Congressional inquiry into Benghazi that could grow into an Iran-Contra type scandal, and the emboldened House won't budge on the fiscal cliff.

The most interesting thing is what happens if Republicans lose. They're never going to get a more energized base, it would really argue for demographic inevitability. Which is interesting, because that was what was going on in the 1840s and 1850s, as the South realized they would be permanently outvoted.

Anonymous Rantor November 05, 2012 6:09 AM  

Roundtine,

I beg to differ, four more years of Obama will energize the Republican base... Problem is the party will give us another bank-o-phile moderate to support. If Prechter (and Nate for that matter) are right, things will be much worse in 2016, whoever is elected will most likely be blamed and tossed from the White House.

As for Benghazi, Congress needs to impeach Obama. Of course the Senate will find him not guilty, just as that dishonest mob did to Clinton. Jury nullification is OK for the oligarchs, but must be avoided for the rest of us.

Anonymous Rosalys November 05, 2012 6:33 AM  

"If so, we’ll enjoy the benefit of another four years of the most incompetent, most unintentionally tragicomic administration since President Carter’s one term."

I disagree with the "unintentionally". It's not just Obama, it's Obama and all the "folks" he surrounds himself with (or has been surrounded by). He the lazy assiest pres we've ever had, and if it were just the one man child it may be a good option. He is probably a puppet, but he is entirely in agreement with what has been going down on his watch. Everything that has happened has been very intentional. I think that Romney at least is not a communist.

It may or may not be "the end times" for the world; I think it more likely that it could just be that the U.S. is well into the beginning of her twilight years. God judges nations. A country such as ours which has been so blessed and been given so much light, and yet has so dramatically turned away from Him cannot escape judgement forever. A lack of good available leadership/evil rulers are a form of judgement. The only real hope is repentance.

Anonymous zen0 November 05, 2012 6:53 AM  

After all the hoopla and hysteria abates, whoever gets in will have to back away from the fiscal cliff,i.e., abandon the provisions providing for tax increases and spending cuts that kicks in January next.

At least, this is what the Bank of Canada is assuming. Even so, they expect fiscal tightening to remove 1 percentage point from U.S. growth in 2012, and 1.5 percentage points in each of 2013 and 2014.

Anonymous The Great Martini November 05, 2012 7:03 AM  

We must elect a president who will stop the aging of the Baby Boomers. Perhaps by infecting the water supply with a virus designed to kill those born in the years after WWII. Particularly now that they've stopped paying for everyone's social security.

Anonymous Stilicho November 05, 2012 7:06 AM  

I think your map is a good prediction except for Pennsylvania. Change that and you have Romney 285, Obama 253. That's my prediction.

Anonymous DrTorch November 05, 2012 7:13 AM  

I think you're wrong about PA. Hope you're right about everything else except WI.

Romney doesn't thrill me, but I delight in the misery of progressive liberals.

Anonymous L.W. Dickel November 05, 2012 7:14 AM  

"A Mormon or a Muslim? How in the goddamn hell did it come to this?"--Jesus H. Christ, at the voting booth. Without a photo I.D.

Anonymous ridip November 05, 2012 7:37 AM  

"[H]e cannot successfully arm-wrestle the invisible hand of the global economic forces."

This was priceless. I can't wait for one of the local Masonic conspiracy-philes to Photoshop an image of Hair Leader with his hand in his jacket.

Anonymous aero November 05, 2012 7:54 AM  

The dislike and fear for Obama is greater then the enthusiasm for Romney. The poll numbers for Obama are hyped up to make this election look close. Purpose is to prevent voter apathy.

This election is not close. Obama has lost 30 to 40 percent of his popularity since 2010. The only electoral votes Obama will get is from DC 3 because it is black.

Anonymous aero November 05, 2012 7:59 AM  

VD said in his endorsement blog column

Stow the reactions to anyone else's endorsement or reasoning, limit your comments to your own intended actions. I'll highlight what I consider to be some of the best and worst of them in a post tomorrow, and present my own endorsement for the presidential election.

Whom are you endorsing?

Blogger JD Curtis November 05, 2012 8:00 AM  

I too think that Romney will win big.

The pollsters have been regularly oversampling democrats and undersampling republicans. More importantly, independents have been consistently underepresented and romney enjoys a 6-12 point lead among them, depending upon who you listen to.

If Romney truly is within 4 points in Pennsylvania, even with a +13 democrat sample, it's game over for our Kenyan-american president.

PS- If Illinois is Obama's firewall, he's having trouble there too.

Anonymous DaveD November 05, 2012 8:00 AM  

I still think Obama is going to win, maybe in controversy. The simple fact is that Romney's 47% comment was right in spirit if not in actual numbers. (49% don't pay Fed Income taxes.) Too many Americans DO have a sense of entitlement to some handout from Big Brother or another. Maybe its student loans, maybe its Medicare, maybe they work directly for the government or they get tax rebates or something.

I have yet to meet an Obama supporter that didn't want something and want someone else to pay for it.

DD

Blogger JD Curtis November 05, 2012 8:10 AM  

I agree with VD's electoral map EXCEPT that I slightly disagree re: Minnesota, Wisconsin and Michigan. I think any one or all of them can legitimately be in play.

Biggest disagreement w/the map (and it's a small one), Maine's 2nd congressional district. Look for it to break for Romney with it's lone, independent electoral vote. Link

Anonymous VryeDenker November 05, 2012 8:14 AM  

I don't care much for Nate Silver's opinion. Now, I am MUCH more interested in another Nate's opinion...

Anonymous Theophilus November 05, 2012 8:17 AM  

You predicted McCain would win in 2009, Vox. Not Obama...

http://voxday.blogspot.com/2008/11/presidential-prediction-mccain-wins.html

Anonymous Theophilus November 05, 2012 8:18 AM  

With the caveat of being him being down by 5 in the polls, I need to add... But you did say this:

"But based on my observations, I am forced to conclude that despite the way things superficially appear, John McCain will win the election." ;)

Anonymous Porky! November 05, 2012 8:39 AM  

You are loved, L.W. Dickel. <3 :)

Blogger Dan Hewitt November 05, 2012 8:40 AM  

I pledge blind allegiace...
http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/125222.html

Anonymous Rantor November 05, 2012 8:55 AM  

Rasmussen has Romney back up by 1%. 49 to 48. I think that is a pretty clear signal that Romney wins the popular vote tomorrow. If you and the RINO-head NEOCONs (Morris, Rove, etc.) are correct, there is minmaly hope that the electorate can at least identify the failings of the incumbent. There judgement on the new guy will come in 2014 with the mid-terms.

Blogger LP 999/Eliza November 05, 2012 9:07 AM  

My fave part of the op-ed; "If so, we’ll enjoy the benefit of another four years of the most incompetent, most unintentionally tragicomic administration since President Carter’s one term. But I’m not concerned about that. We already know what sort of president Obama will make, which is to say an absentee one. A country can do worse."

I just wonder how the tv ratings will churn this time around, probably just the same as the last election cycle.

Anonymous VD November 05, 2012 9:19 AM  

"But based on my observations, I am forced to conclude that despite the way things superficially appear, John McCain will win the election." ;)

I'd predicted the Democratic win for months at that point and was just tormenting Republicans with that post. They were clutching and grabbing at anything by then. Read it a little more closely, with particular attention to the caveats. Remember, I'd even written about how McCain completely blew the election by rushing back to Washington to save Wall Street.

Blogger James Dixon November 05, 2012 9:23 AM  

> ...you have Romney 285, Obama 253. That's my prediction.

That sounds fairly reasonable. So does Josh's prediction from the earlier thread though. We're a very divided country.

Anonymous Holla November 05, 2012 9:27 AM  

Obama blow-out. They'll bus in the skeleton of Rosa Parks to win this thing.

And a commie is better than a Mormon any day of the week.

Anonymous VD November 05, 2012 9:34 AM  

Here it is. From March 13, 2007:

"If the Republican Party was actually trying to win this fall, they would pay attention to the way even conservative commentators are declaring that they will sit it out rather than vote for Giuliani, McCain or Romney. But, as I've written repeatedly over the last two years, this is the Lizard Queen's election. It's the Democrat's turn again, so the GOP has to throw up a sacrificial lamb. I guessed it would be Pataki, but it turned out that he's not even electable enough to serve as voter bait."

Anonymous VD November 05, 2012 9:36 AM  

Then January 30, 2008:

"While I'm still standing by my 2003 prediction of a president Rodham-Clinton, my ability to read the tea leaves with regards to the Republicans hasn't been very good. I initially thought Pataki might be the unelectable Republican selected to take the fall, (although I did suggest Giuliani as the other probability, as he indeed turned out to be), but as I noted before the primaries began, Giuliani was such a horrendous candidate that he couldn't even fulfill his appointed role. But Democrats need not fear, both McCain and Romney are eminently capable of being defeated in the same landslide that was intended for Giuliani. It doesn't actually matter which of them is nominated to play Bob Dole redux."

Anonymous Josh November 05, 2012 9:36 AM  

Whom are you endorsing?

Didn't you read the column?

None of the above.

Anonymous Josh November 05, 2012 9:38 AM  

Vox, do you think team lizard queen's loss in 2008 to the magic Negro was intentional, or just a staggering example of incompetence (not knowing the rules for assigning delegates)?

Anonymous Theophilus November 05, 2012 9:39 AM  

VD: "I'd predicted the Democratic win for months at that point and was just tormenting Republicans with that post. They were clutching and grabbing at anything by then. Read it a little more closely, with particular attention to the caveats. Remember, I'd even written about how McCain completely blew the election by rushing back to Washington to save Wall Street."

Yes, I did see that you had made reference to previous posts noting an Obama victory. I haven't read through all those past posts I must admit. It was more just plain ol' curiousity that made me go back and check your opines on the past election, anyway. :)

Back to 2012, I do think Romney wins. He doesn't get MN or MI or PA. But he does get OH and he gets WI in a squeaker. He also gets IA and CO. Loses NH and NV.

He easily gets FL, VA, and NC of course...

And Chris Matthews has a stroke on air, while Rachael Maddow cries silently. Does anyone thinking that MSNBC's ratings, what little they have, is largely due to conservative types tuning in to see their reactions to various news events? I do think that their ratings will be higher on election night with a Romney victory because conservatives will be stopping by to watch the train wreck as it unfolds...

Anonymous rienzi November 05, 2012 9:42 AM  

Good job Vox. Having spent some time unwinding the polls over the weekend, I think you have a good shot at beating Silver's 2008 predictions.

What I can project with absolute, total certainty, is that the msm networks will wait to call states like Alabama until about three AM, but will call places like PA, OH, and NH for Zero the instant the polls close, even if they are pretty sure that they may have to do an "oops" later in the evening.

Anonymous Theophilus November 05, 2012 9:45 AM  

Previous comments prior to election eve 2008 noted and acknowledged. :)

Anonymous Josh November 05, 2012 9:46 AM  

that the msm networks will wait to call states like Alabama until about three AM

Probably not Alabama, chief.

Although a surprise Saban endorsement today would likely put the state into the tossup category, if not outright blue.

Anonymous physics geek November 05, 2012 9:48 AM  

I'm going with Romney 271, Obama 267. Adding the prediction that Nate Silver will be licking the bathrooms at Grand Central Station clean by Wednesday.

Anonymous Stilicho November 05, 2012 9:52 AM  

Although a surprise Saban endorsement today would likely put the state into the tossup category, if not outright blue.

There is no Coach but Bear Bryant and (insert name of current coach) is his prophet...

It really is a religion.

Anonymous Bryant was a wuss November 05, 2012 9:54 AM  

Probably not Alabama, chief.

I think you missed his point

Anonymous Stilicho November 05, 2012 9:54 AM  

Adding the prediction that Nate Silver will be licking the bathrooms at Grand Central Station clean by Wednesday.

There is no result that a liberal pollster or (statistician) cannot explain away with the Bradley Effect.

Anonymous Nihilus November 05, 2012 9:58 AM  

"Election day is almost here!! My hard-on for Obama is so intense that I fear my balls may explode."--Mohammed, in the sky.

Everybody needs to get out and vote for the Madmo ticket. Otherwise the queers, atheists and evolutionists will take over the world!

Come on now. Don't piss off the Prophet!

Anonymous Priest of Babylon November 05, 2012 9:59 AM  

Meh. The good news? Remember where we were? Here we are. Imagine where we will be.

No matter who wins, it just keeps getting better!

Anonymous rienzi November 05, 2012 9:59 AM  

Since we're doing predictions: 2.5 for the o/u on the number of states that MSNBC calls wrongly for Zero on election night.

Anonymous Daniel November 05, 2012 10:13 AM  

You predicted McCain would win in 2009, Vox. Not Obama...

You've got that completely screwed up, Theophilus. He of course predicted both.

But if you read the timescale, his early prediction was an Obama cakewalk, amplified by McCain stripping naked and strapping on a Fed-gilt saddle, then eroded by completely incompetent campaigning on the part of Obama. This is, in fact, the historic trend of both the campaigns.

The short memories forget that Obama's campaign was laughably bad, especially for a professional "organizer," but McCain was even more laughably unappealing as a candidate: Stephen Covey licked his lips with less innate lacertine revulsion. The election was closer than it should have been. Obama's campaign hasn't gotten smug or lazy: it is following its own blueprint to victory.

It should have been a landslide, especially considering the gulf between personal appeal, and the open disregard McCain showed for conservatism at the time.

You also forget that 2008 is considered by Vox himself to have been a blown call - he had Hillary, and had it not been for that meddling kid, it most certainly would have been.

Unfortunately for Obama, he's run out of Scooby snacks.

Blogger JACIII November 05, 2012 10:13 AM  

I'm going with Dick Morris. Laugh all you want, but I buy the "tectonic shift" theory and figure Sandy will not be good for Obama.

Blogger JohnG November 05, 2012 10:19 AM  

Bah. If Obama was the Beast, his successor will be worse.

Blogger mmaier2112 November 05, 2012 10:22 AM  

Found a typo:

"The problem is that Romney has shown absolutely no sign of even the smallest interest in addressing the core problems the United States ARE presently facing."

OK, I'll shut up now.

Anonymous Retrenched November 05, 2012 10:26 AM  

Apparently Vox seems to think that Romney will get a fair election with minimal fraud. If I thought that, my numbers would be about the same as his. My guess is that Obama holds on thanks to massive fraud in Ohio and Wisconsin.

Romney will win the popular vote by about 1.5% but it won't matter. Final electoral tally will be 275-263 or 281-255 for Obama, depending on whether or not he holds onto Iowa.

Also, I look for at least one state to be incorrectly called early for Obama while the polls are still open in the critical western states. My guess is that it will be Virginia.

Anonymous Josh November 05, 2012 10:26 AM  

It really is a religion.

College football in the South is not a religion.

It's much more important than that.

Blogger W.LindsayWheeler November 05, 2012 10:27 AM  

This whole think kinda puts the lie to the so-called "modern republicanism" that sought to replace monarchy for all of its "evils". I know of no monarch that is betraying their country but I know a whole slew of leaders of republics that are. Carter, the Bushes, Clinton, Sarkozy, the last British Prime Ministers and these two idiots, Obama/Romney, show that republics put out worse characters than any monarchy could. Some monarchs were mediocre, but no monarch ever betrayed their country like these morons would do with race replacement.


It is about time that we return to the Old Order, of Throne and Altar, folks. Your modern republicansim is the stepping stone to globalization and they are betraying you.

Anonymous Just Mark November 05, 2012 10:40 AM  

Romney 295 Obama 243. R may lose OH but he'll still win. On the other hand he may win MI and PA. What a landslide that would be.

Regardless of who wins I'm confident our gaurdians will take excellent care of us.

Anonymous Stilicho November 05, 2012 10:46 AM  

Hi, Wheeler. You're still batshit crazy, but welcome back nonetheless.

Anonymous Frank Brady November 05, 2012 10:57 AM  

This election doesn't matter. No recent election has mattered. The unmentioned elephant in the room is the statistical improbability that so many successive national elections could be so "close" as to capture the attention of the masses as though they were watching a professional wrestling match--hmmm, wait a minute...

Anonymous Porky? November 05, 2012 11:15 AM  

Wheeler: I know of no monarch that is betraying their country

It wasn't about monarchs betraying their country. It was about despots putting their boot on the back of your neck.

Seen any of those lateley?

Anonymous Cheddarman November 05, 2012 11:20 AM  

Speaking of comedy gold, the witch doctor in Obama's ancestral village in Kenya predicts an Obama win...


http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/A/AF_KENYA_OBAMA?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2012-11-05-07-27-50

Blogger Desert Cat November 05, 2012 11:21 AM  

W.LindsayWheeler November 05, 2012 10:27 AM
It is about time that we return to the Old Order, of Throne and Altar, folks. Your modern republicansim is the stepping stone to globalization and they are betraying you.


You may yet get your wish Wheeler, although it is far more likely to take the form of the Caliphate than a revived Catholic monarch.

Best of luck with that...

Anonymous Josh November 05, 2012 11:22 AM  

It wasn't about monarchs betraying their country. It was about despots putting their boot on the back of your neck.Seen any of those lateley?

Most of the presidents since Lincoln (may he burn in hell forever).

Anonymous Loki of Asgard November 05, 2012 11:43 AM  

Wheeler, I am a monarch by right of two realms, and would only be too happy to take yours under my protection as well. As you say, I would be far, far more effective than any of your mortal elected officials.

And truly, though I might put a boot upon your neck from time to time, at least it will be tasteful.

Anonymous Brendan November 05, 2012 11:58 AM  

If Romney wins, we can expect to be watching helicopter shots of riots in downtown Detroit, Watts, etc, stuff on fire and so on.

My own guess is that Obama is going to squeak in with between 275 and 290 EVs due to voter fraud in Ohio and Wisconsin on an epic scale in true Chicago style.

As for the polls, they all seem to be overstating the size of the democrat electorate this time, but they may end up looking correct based on the ballot stuffing operations that will certainly be taking place under the aegis of the unions in Ohio and Wisconsin in particular.

So, unfortunately, likely no sky-cam riot shots.

Sigh.

Blogger W.LindsayWheeler November 05, 2012 12:00 PM  

The Old Order, Throne and Altar, beat back the Muslim invasions by land and sea, first in Spain, then in the Battle of Lepanto and then in the Battle of Vienna. ONLY, Catholic Christendom beat back Muslim intrusion.

Modern Republicanism in Europe and in America? Inviting Muslims in.

What is the historical record? My prescription of return of Throne and Altar has nothing to do with any Caliphate. The Caliphate is rising in pseudo-Republican Europe. It was Throne and Altar that beat back the Islam!

Onto the other critics. The grass is never greener on the other side. So a little yoke, which was blown out of proportion by atheistic and protestant rebels and turned out that now you are ruled by an even bigger yoke that is genociding you existentially thru political correctness/social justice. No monarch has threatened his people as much as your "republican" leaders, Sarkozy, Merkel, The Bushes, Clinton, Carter, Obama, Dole, McCain, and Romney are going to do with you.

Bring back the Monarchy. Bring back Throne and Altar. Return to the Church, and Return to the ways of your forefathers.

Anonymous Daniel November 05, 2012 12:09 PM  

Josh

College football in the South is not a religion.

It's much more important than that.


This would explain why Jim Jones is the head coach at Auburn.

Anonymous Bohm November 05, 2012 12:10 PM  

Yah! God save The Queen!

Anonymous DonReynolds November 05, 2012 12:26 PM  

I have posted here several times over the years that Obama is the Herbert Hoover of our times. His administration will get full credit (deserved) for the utter failure of the economy to recover from the 2008 (Great?) recession. Yes, Bush Jr. fullfills the role as Calvin Coolidge. Very similar in many ways to the Roaring Twenties. Will Romney do well as FDR? Very probably. He is hardly what anyone would call Conservative.

There will be winner tomorrow night, certainly before breakfast Wednesday morning. It will not be close. Romney will win the popular vote too. Many of those who sat out the election in 2008 have learned an important lesson and a good many of those who voted in 2008, will not show up at the polls this time.

Obama will not keep all of the votes he got in 2008 and none of the McCain voters will side with him this time. That means he will lose.

Anonymous E. PERLINE November 05, 2012 12:34 PM  

I read that despite being shown in obscure places, the Independent Voters are two to one for Romney. That might be the gigantic elephant that will materialize for the Republicans.

I have to admit that I failed to see how dumb the public was. I thought they would stand still for at least one more scam. They do get a good mark for prolonging their victimhood. don't you think?

Anonymous Loki of Asgard November 05, 2012 12:39 PM  

So a little yoke, which was blown out of proportion by atheistic and protestant rebels and turned out that now you are ruled by an even bigger yoke that is genociding you existentially thru political correctness/social justice.

I agree. You should trust the details of your meager lives to those who know how to fit you with yokes, when to use you and when to slay you, how to deny you anything of your own because you are, all of you, unable to manage your own affairs.

The only true qualification for making decisions is, clearly, being a many times removed descendant of the fellow who, of his extended family, was quickest with a sharp stick.

And I have, indeed, a very sharp stick, as quite a few people have found out.

Anonymous Gerd November 05, 2012 1:44 PM  

" They'll bus in the skeleton of Rosa Parks to win this thing."

That statement is so wrong on so many levels. A skeleton is white!
To the back of the bus for you Sir!!

Anonymous E. PERLINE November 05, 2012 1:47 PM  

Inventng a new system of government is difficult. Blogger contributors seem to be unhappy with the invention of the republic. (One even suggesting starting a new monarchy!)

It's time to try something in keeping with the times. Let's not depend on the Reptilian and Mammalian brains for acceptable behavior. Let's build a God- Computer, and into it. let's put a Reasoning brain only. This reasoning God-Computer would keep its cases in the clouds. And the inevitable permutations could be thrashed out by nerd lawyers.

To be cautious, we'll let the God-Computers deal only in international and marine law. This venue might still offer grist for novels.

Anonymous Orville November 05, 2012 1:47 PM  

Mish went down several notches in my opinion of him when he said today that Obammy has a 90% chance against Herr Mittens.

His logic...he takes the average of all the polls without even a mention of the oversampling or use of registered vs. likely voters. Total fail.

Anonymous Josh November 05, 2012 1:54 PM  

His logic...he takes the average of all the polls without even a mention of the oversampling or use of registered vs. likely voters. Total fail.

Why is that a "total fail?"

Blogger tz November 05, 2012 1:55 PM  

PA and FL are likely to go the other way.

Anonymous Stilicho November 05, 2012 1:55 PM  

Modern Republicanism in Europe and in America? Inviting Muslims in.

The Catholic Church is certainly inviting the quasi-pagan mestizos into America at an alarming pace.

Anonymous Josh November 05, 2012 1:56 PM  

It's time to try something in keeping with the times. Let's not depend on the Reptilian and Mammalian brains for acceptable behavior. Let's build a God- Computer, and into it. let's put a Reasoning brain only. This reasoning God-Computer would keep its cases in the clouds. And the inevitable permutations could be thrashed out by nerd lawyers. 

I think you need to have a conference with Dread, Wheeler, and Koanic so that you guys can come up with a Unified Field Theory of Conspiracy Theories.

Anonymous Josh November 05, 2012 1:58 PM  

The Catholic Church is certainly inviting the quasi-pagan mestizos into America at an alarming pace.

Wheeler is immune to your silly facts.

Anonymous Daniel November 05, 2012 2:12 PM  

Unified Field Theory of Conspiracy Theories: Frank Dec.

Blogger JD Curtis November 05, 2012 2:42 PM  

Obama blow-out. They'll bus in the skeleton of Rosa Parks to win this thing


I'm quite suprised they haven't tried photoshopping Romney into images from the Nuremberg rallies.

Anonymous Orion November 05, 2012 2:56 PM  

Wheeler: I know of no monarch that is betraying their country


Never heard of England eh? The royal family there is very much behind all the multi-culti crap from all that I have heard of them. If that isn't betrayal, I don't know what is.

VD: the quality of the trolls here (in aggregate) is going down lately.

Anonymous David November 05, 2012 2:59 PM  

I am with Retrenched and Brendan, I am expecting voter fraud of some sort(whether electronic or the old-fashioned method) to play a big role tomorrow, and I expect Obama has the upper hand in this area.

I don't care who wins tomorrow, they are both bad, and I do expect Romney to be even worse than Obama if he wins. But I am really curious to see whether Vox or Intrade turns out to be more accurate.

Anonymous Rantor November 05, 2012 3:01 PM  

I am excited by everyone's confidence here, as much as I can't stand Romney, I do want Obama to lose. I found Rasmussen's reporting unsettling though, he says Romney should have the popular vote but is uncertain who will win. A man drowning in a sea of numbers.

Oh well, we will know soon enough. And I can drink Scotch regardless of the outcome.

Anonymous Daniel November 05, 2012 3:08 PM  

I'm confident Romney will win, but Obama is by far the lesser of the two evils. I actually think if Obama wins, he'll be really bummed out about it, which would be hilarious to watch. It's like watching the class douchecanoe junior treasurer (who ran because he could get his friends to rule prom planning) get re-elected senior treasurer, which means his peers punished him because he has to plan Class Reunions for the rest of his life.

Romney's the bigger douchecanoe who's gonna say, "Treasurer, yes!" and fist pump.

Anonymous Stilicho November 05, 2012 3:30 PM  

Romney's the bigger douchecanoe who's gonna say, "Treasurer, yes!" and fist pump.

Probably in the glee club as well.

Anonymous Mr. Nightstick November 05, 2012 3:35 PM  

Douchecanoe?

Blogger W.LindsayWheeler November 05, 2012 3:50 PM  

Yes, I understand that the Catholic hierarchy is promoting the Hispanic invasion of America. All they hear is the "Gospel" of love and for them that means unlimited immigration. Modern Catholicism is totally morally bankrupt. They don't know what they are doing and they are certainly engaging in evil. The Church is not free from the culture. Marxist culture is infiltrating everything. I believe that is due to the general effeminacy of men.

Anonymous Frank Brady November 05, 2012 4:09 PM  

I think VD's projection (Romney 305, Obama 233) is about right--although it may understate Romney's margin of victory. I hasten to add that we will all lose--regardless of which miscreant prevails.

Anonymous Chart Porn November 05, 2012 4:52 PM  

Mahendra the Astrologer picks Obama because he has a better Astro Chart and Romney has a negative moon in his Saturn area. Unfortunately, that just started today.

Bad timing, eh?

Anonymous carnaby November 05, 2012 5:19 PM  

One day to go. Silvers may be vindicated, or not, hopefully not.

Anonymous coughing into my coffee November 05, 2012 6:46 PM  

The Demos surely have all of their usual stratagems fully fleshed out and ready for implementation.
Illegal alien voting, voting machine "malfunctions", dead people/pets/imaginary playmates voting, voter intimidation/misinformation at the polls, Hurricane Sandy election reboot, endless recounts, ect, ect.
Then if that doesn't work; riots.

Repubs, on the other hand are in their normal state of obliviousness. To dumb to take preemptive extreme counter measures.

What a choice to have to make; a party of crafty, villainous reptiles or a party of cretinous dim-bulbs.

Anonymous zen0 November 05, 2012 8:17 PM  

Back in the day, George Washington won 39 more electoral votes than John Adams. G. Dubya became President, J.A. became Vice President. (according to Monday Night Football)

What the hell happened to your system?

Anonymous The other skeptic November 05, 2012 8:53 PM  

Mish calls it for Obama

Anonymous ZEN0 November 05, 2012 8:57 PM  

It's time to try something in keeping with the times. Let's not depend on the Reptilian and Mammalian brains for acceptable behavior. Let's build a God- Computer, and into it. - E. PERLINE

This is Techno-Platonism. Do you not fear GIGO, the Satan of artificial intelligence? (Garbage In, Garbage Out)

It is already operational in the wetware systems, and has been since the Fall.

Anonymous Outlaw X November 05, 2012 9:20 PM  

How some otherwise very smart people even give Obama a snowballs chance in Hell of winning is beyond me?

Anonymous Outlaw X November 05, 2012 9:24 PM  

I guess Romney could accidentally choke on a pretzel tonight, otherwise Romney creams Obama.

Anonymous zen0 November 05, 2012 9:28 PM  

Stilicho November 05, 2012 10:46 AM

Hi, Wheeler. You're still batshit crazy, but welcome back nonetheless.


Wheeler ain't batshit crazy at all. He just has his sense of historical development suspended. The Altar and Throne he speaks of was a counterfeit of the Kingdom of God, which Christians supposedly yearn for like the Jews yearn for Jerusalem.

Both groups, of course, fall dramatically short. Jesus did not promote small government, but global government. True individual liberty is only possible in a Monarchy, but a Monarchy NOT of this World.

That is why globalism is ascendent now, because it is the counterfeit Kingdom of the Milllenium. The Holy Roman Empire and its offspring, were the counterfeit Kingdom of its Age.

The people who are crazy are those that think that wisdom in action can come from purposely deluded and ignorant rabble.

Anonymous zen0 November 05, 2012 9:33 PM  

Outlaw X November 05, 2012 9:20 PM

How some otherwise very smart people even give Obama a snowballs chance in Hell of winning is beyond me?


Interesting, isn't it? One side or the other will be spectacularly wrong. I hope whomever they are will own it.
Its important in sporting events.

Anonymous Emulator November 05, 2012 9:35 PM  

How do you put Romney ahead in Pennsylvania? One could argue over whether Obama will win Ohio or New Hampshire, but I really don't see Romney carrying Pennsylvania.

Anonymous Outlaw X November 05, 2012 9:47 PM  

Zeno

I'm not a sore loser, but I won't be wrong. I'll own up. I think it will be clear by !0:00 PM (probably earlier). My first eligible Vote was for Reagan in 1980, If it's not a repeat it will be a ryhme. Can't remember who said "History doesn't repeat, but it rhymes." I stole the line.

Anonymous Outlaw X November 05, 2012 9:48 PM  

CST^

Blogger James Dixon November 05, 2012 10:42 PM  

> How do you put Romney ahead in Pennsylvania?

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/11/02/Pennsylvania-s-Most-Accurate-Pollster-Points-to-Romney-Win

The update shows it tied. If they use the same oversampling of democrats most of the other polls use, Romney will win.

Blogger James Dixon November 05, 2012 10:44 PM  

> My first eligible Vote was for Reagan in 1980,

My first eligible vote was in 1976, but I had just gone away to college and didn't know enough about the process to get registered. My first vote was for Reagan.

Anonymous Grinder November 05, 2012 10:48 PM  

I'll take a stab at predicting your election results:

Obama 275
Romney 261

I differ from Vox's map by giving Ohio, Penn. and New Hampshire to Democrats. I'll disclose that I detest Obama slightly less intensely than Romney and maybe what passes for optimism on my part is influencing my forecast.

Anonymous Grinder November 05, 2012 10:52 PM  

I guess it should be 263 for Romney.

Anonymous Grinder November 05, 2012 11:02 PM  

Mr. NightstickNovember 05, 2012 3:35 PM
Douchecanoe?


The preferred mode of transportation of douche-coureurs-de-bois.

Anonymous Outlaw X November 05, 2012 11:05 PM  

"My first eligible vote was in 1976, but I had just gone away to college and didn't know enough about the process to get registered. My first vote was for Reagan."

JD, who was that yesterday arguing with Vox about poll numbers yesterday? dh or something like that?

Someone needs to tell him to hide all sharp objects tomorrow afternoon. :)

Anonymous bw November 05, 2012 11:16 PM  

Ladies and Gentlemen (cough, cough) I give you ... the next Precedent of the United States...

Anonymous Emulator November 05, 2012 11:29 PM  

>The update shows it tied. If they use the same oversampling of democrats most of the other polls use, Romney will win.

Dozens of other polls show Obama ahead by several percentage points. I'll chalk that one up to margin of error (3.5%, i.e. a possible change in difference of 7%).

The polling turnout model biases would have to be massive to make up the difference.

Anonymous Outlaw X November 05, 2012 11:57 PM  

"The polling turnout model biases would have to be massive to make up the difference."

Ann Coulter was the only one that I saw smart enough to take into account the white guilt factor in answering the polling questions. Raciss!

Romney's speeches reminded me of "The Shinning City on the Hill." Obamas angry speeces - well were angry. I could see the Mourning already on the ED Show MSNBC tonight. They know!

Anonymous The other skeptic November 06, 2012 12:31 AM  

I expect that all those zombies and the ardent, back-from-the-grave Democrats will win it for Obama.

I still like VD's vision. Obama wins it and then the Clintons drop the hammer.

Anonymous Tom O. November 06, 2012 3:19 AM  

Dozens of other polls show Obama ahead by several percentage points. I'll chalk that one up to margin of error (3.5%, i.e. a possible change in difference of 7%).

The polling turnout model biases would have to be massive to make up the difference.


It's likely that Obama will win, but it's less likely than you think.

Not all statistics are equally relevant. Let's suppose that, by inspection of history, the odds of a Republican winning when the election is held on the 6th is 100%. Now, let's suppose that, by polling, 100% of people polled (sincerely) said they will vote Democrat. Only one of those statistics is relevant, even though they both predict with full certainty.

The market has a far more relevant story than the state polls. People put logic over feelings when money is on the line, and the aggregate does a good job of taking into account all sorts of subtle details and factors that polling misses. The market places Romney winning at 35% and Obama winning at 65%.

What does this mean? We should expect Obama to win, but we shouldn't be surprised at all if Romney wins-- not enough to start invoking conspiracy theories, at least.

Anonymous Anonymous November 06, 2012 3:23 AM  

Modern Republicanism in Europe and in America? Inviting Muslims in.

Somalis Muslims have been reported being bussed to polls in Ohio. Somali Muslims have been aggressively engaging in various violent crimes in Minnesota. How did the US wind up with Somali Muslims in such places?

Thanks in no small part to the Catholic charities, Somali refugees have been settled in parts of the US for over a decade. There's your Altar at work - importing aggressive Muslims to the US.

You were saying?

Blogger James Dixon November 06, 2012 8:26 AM  

> JD, who was that yesterday arguing with Vox about poll numbers yesterday? dh or something like that?

Yeah, dh is the one who's been arguing the poll numbers. He can't admit that the polls could possibly have a bias against republicans. I have no such illusions, having lived through too many elections.

Anonymous Richardthughes November 06, 2012 11:37 AM  

You can get almost 4x your money on Romney from Intrade, if you're confident...

Anonymous FoxNewsUpdate November 06, 2012 10:04 PM  

10pm EST
NH for Obama
PA for Obama

Anonymous Emulator November 06, 2012 11:31 PM  

I think a little "told you so" is in order.

Anonymous Hillary2016 November 07, 2012 3:28 AM  

Or we could just call him a dumb ass, no need to sugar coat it.

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