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Monday, December 31, 2012

The final WND column

11 Years of Failure

On Sept. 14, 2001, WND published my first political column, “Yield no more freedom.” I wrote it in response to the Sept. 11 attacks in an attempt to warn Americans of the assault on their rights and liberties by the U.S. government that I believed would soon follow. Unfortunately, despite being correct, my warnings largely fell on deaf ears, as conservatives and liberals united in an attack on American freedom that culminated in the Patriot Act, drone killings and secret assassination lists.

Over the last 11 years, my predictions have been both eerily prescient and ludicrously inaccurate. While I did correctly foresee the financial crisis, the global economic depression and the collapse of the housing market, my ability to anticipate election results was reliably poor. Unfortunately, the one area where my expectations seldom went unfulfilled was the way in which the federal government continued to expand its intervention into the U.S. economy and the lives of America’s citizens almost unchecked by resistance on the part of the people or their elected representatives.

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Anonymous Outlaw X December 31, 2012 4:09 AM  

Vox, thank you for putting up with me all this time I have been around. WND column or not you changed many people and I hope you realize it. The coffee is always hot and you are always welcome in my home.

Anonymous Mr. Nightstick December 31, 2012 4:20 AM  

from:

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"But we had the sentence of death in ourselves, that we should not trust in ourselves, but in God which raiseth the dead" (2 Cor. 1:9):

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Why does God let things get into a horrible condition before He rises up and acts? The text above tells us why He did that to the apostle Paul. It was so that they would not trust in themselves. Now if there is any group of Christians who need to be taught not to trust in themselves, but in God who raises the dead, that group would be American evangelicals. For us, "I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me" is a Christian school slogan for our track teams' t-shirts. Paul was talking there (Phil. 4:13) about this profound death and resurrection cycle in his life, while we tend to think it is about jumping higher, running faster, hanging with cute girls afterwards, and all with whiter teeth.

There are of course a number of situations where a "can do" spirit is admirable, but we don't really need to be reminded of those occasions. There are other places -- like the boneyard -- where such a mentality is plainly demented. We need our preachers to stop telling the skeletons to develp a positive mental attitude.

So is this why our country is coming apart in our hands? Is this why popular entertainment is so corrupt? Is this why our justices despise the gift of life? Is this why our laws cannot make out the reason God gave us boys and girls? Is this why Congress does not understand the concept of red ink? Yes -- so that we would stop trusting in ourselves.

Is this why our fathers devise various means to run out on their families? Is this why wives are terminally disrespectful to them, doing what they can to chase them out early? Is this why our children are so sullen and unhappy? Yes -- so that we would stop trusting in ourselves.

Is this why our seminaries do their level best to train sexless capons for future ministry? Is this why pulpits are treated as bunkers to hide in, instead of cockpits to fight from? Is this why we call theologians conservative if they condescend to believe most of the Bible? Yes -- so that we would stop trusting in ourselves.

All hope is lost? Good. That means the conditions for a black swan revival are improving by the day. The stone cold deader we get, the more God is hastening the day. Nothing is dying but what needs to die. Let it go, and let the black swan surprise you.

Anonymous LuxLibertas December 31, 2012 4:25 AM  

Thank you again for your help in removing the new atheist psudo-philosophical scales from my eyes and bringing me back to Christ. And for your introduction to libertarianism and all things non-PC. Your work has had a far larger and substantial effect than you may realize.

I look forward to reading your latest novels this month.

Anonymous re allow anonymous comments December 31, 2012 4:27 AM  

From your 9/14/2001 column: "One of the many troubling aspects of the hijackings is the brutal demonstration that we, as a people, have received very little of the security we were promised in return for the many violations of personal freedom and civil liberties that have been enacted over the past decade."

So sad. Myself and I'm sure a great many others would be thrilled to go back to only 2001-level violations.

Anonymous OCS December 31, 2012 5:01 AM  

Satan and his minions rule this fallen world. But we who are in, but not of, it always have the unquenchable hope that the true King of Kings will return and set things right again. Don’t put your faith in gold or guns, still less in governments, but in Jesus Christ. We have no king but Jesus, who came to set captives free.

Can I get an amen from the church militant? I honestly thought you were going to end this on a bit of a dour note, but if this doesn't set people aflame to re-secure their God-given rights, then the darkness will have won.

For now.

Blogger Laramie Hirsch December 31, 2012 5:04 AM  

Well, Vox, here we go! Good luck with this career move!

Blogger Shimshon December 31, 2012 5:55 AM  

I think you shoulda gone out in a blaze of glory (:-). Good show, Vox.

I also agree that there's nothing of interest in American politics. My tolerance for the ignorance and outright evil in politics is very low nowadays. And with Ron Paul's departure from politics there's not even the slightest glimmer of hope that the political process could accomplish even a sliver of what's needed to prevent, or even meaningfully delay, the coming collapse.

Even though this is no more the most importantest election evah than any previous election, there does seem to be a turning point as the government (and the beneficiaries that support it) has now gone into overdrive both economically (California with its super-majority legislature is just the leading edge) and in terms of the surveillance state.

Anonymous kh123 December 31, 2012 5:55 AM  

As good a last song as any. On to greener pastures.

Anonymous Koanic December 31, 2012 6:22 AM  

It's a terrible mistake. Continuity is how a voice achieves prominence. Just now, when the worm is turning, you fall silent on your column.

I don't know, but I'd wager your column has been steadily gaining viewers. All you have to do is throw up the weekly objective observation on events, and more and more will gravitate to your voice. Terrible timing, to stop now.

Anonymous AdognamedOp December 31, 2012 6:47 AM  

VD:
"Given that my primary goal in writing this column was to convince the American people to aggressively defend their God-given, Constitution-guaranteed liberties, I have to conclude that the most honest way to describe it is 11 years of unmitigated failure."

Dude, you're bugging if you think your columns and blog commentary didn't inspire people to stand fast for their "Constitution-guaranteed liberties,". You have no idea how much ammo you bestowed onto your readers and what effect it had in working toward that "goal."
I would die a happy man if was able touch the lives of that many people. And I sure as hell wouldn't talk about failure.

Anonymous VD December 31, 2012 6:55 AM  

I don't know, but I'd wager your column has been steadily gaining viewers.

No. My blogs have been steadily growing since 2003; VP is down a bit, but VP+AG is up. The column, on the other hand, has been flat for years. It's clear that the real readership is here.

It will be interesting to see if the blog readership falls or grows as a result. But either way, I am not a proper fit there anymore. The "Obama is Bad" experiment taught me that.

Anonymous scoobius dubious December 31, 2012 7:11 AM  

It's sort of an interesting question whether, at this political juncture, it would pay more dividends (in terms of real results) to continue preaching to the converted with increased conviction, in the hopes of rousing them to greater actual effectiveness; or whether it's a better thing to try to win over the fence-sitters and waverers by using a different venue, or even a different medium (such as fiction). The true believers will never be shaken, but they can be successfully satirized and ridiculed; and if such tactics bring more centrists to look at things differently, well, like Stalin said, quantity is a quality all its own.

One thing you might try doing in fiction is just sitting down and writing a real barn-burner, a tight, snappy, 300-pages, inside-the-park home run, a story and a world that illustrates all your political and economic ideas in one setting, something that could be put out by a big mainstream publisher and cause people to argue about it in the Sunday paper think pieces. I'm sure Orwell had no idea how far 1984 and Animal Farm would go. The Road to Wigan Pier is a fine piece of writing, but it's the first two that turn heads and change the locus of discussion. Newspeak is as powerful a politicl idea expressed in fiction as anything I can think of.

Anyway good luck, whatever you choose.


Anonymous Salt December 31, 2012 7:57 AM  

Excellent exit Vox. Losing interest in the political landscape is not a bad thing. Allows one to quiet down and slide beneath the radar.

Anonymous Samson December 31, 2012 8:12 AM  

@Nightstick: thank you for that profound, brilliant comment. I need more of that in my life.

Anonymous Bob Ramar December 31, 2012 8:20 AM  

Vox: Good exit on a high note. WND has become irrelevant to the political discourse, although Joe Farah probably cannot realize that yet. WND started as a conservative reaction to 'do something meaningful' about the current political gridlock. What Mr. Farah fails to realize is that any potentially effective adversaries have already been neutralized by the 'powers that be' in Washington. Let's see, the 'Tea Party' lasted two years before its leaders were coopted or overturned?

I hope you keep up the blog as I enjoy reading your non-fiction work. I don't read fiction; any fiction, anymore. Don't have the time or patience for escapism.

Anonymous jack December 31, 2012 8:30 AM  

Sorry to see the column go; glad the blog is still here. You tried. Benjamin Franklin said it right where security is concerned.

As aside: do consider the recently mentioned idea of your columns/posts placed into an ebook form or three. I would like to have the reference for my kid and grandkids. And me.

Anonymous VD December 31, 2012 8:36 AM  

As aside: do consider the recently mentioned idea of your columns/posts placed into an ebook form or three. I would like to have the reference for my kid and grandkids. And me.

This will happen. Probably a two-volume set in hardcover and ebook sometime next year. The hardcovers will be about 650 pages and in the $29.99 range apiece, the ebooks will probably be around $4.99. I still have to get the publishing details worked out. I'll be interested to know if people would rather have the columns in chronological order or grouped by subject.

Blogger Tank December 31, 2012 8:39 AM  

And ... we delete the WND bookmark.

I thought the "experiment" VD refers to above was a source of great hilarity and illumination.

Confident we'll enjoy good times here as long as VD is amused and interested.

Ever consider a new reading project? I have some suggestions.

Anonymous Stilicho December 31, 2012 9:05 AM  

I'll be interested to know if people would rather have the columns in chronological order or grouped by subject.

By subject, then chronologically within the subject group.

Anonymous elmer December 31, 2012 9:09 AM  

Satan and his minions RULE this fallen world.

I believe that is the most underestimated and understated statement pronounced by any individual of all time. The key word in that statement being -- rule. Many do not wish to admit to this. God (YHVH) is the CEO of the universe(s). Satan (aka Lucifer) is the COO. God is the Captain of the ship. He is in control. He has the last word. Morgenstern is the XO. His #1. He runs the daily operations and administration. Don't believe this? Look to the Book of Job, and the temptation of Jesus in the gospels. It's all there. [1]

F. Tupper Saussy conveyed to me personally via email, his growing distaste for political commentary. This in response to my query of how the sequel, Gods For the Godless to Rulers of Evil was coming along. He said he wanted to turn his energies to his music and other media (painting and short film), than continue GFTG. He felt he had made a sufficient statement on politics via ROE. And, anyone comprehending such, could continue their own research for further answers to unanswered questions themselves. Then shortly thereafter, in February 2007, he died. Later it was revealed by his son, that GFTG was 3/4 finished.

So Vox, Saussy knew your pain and frustrations at an even more profound level. You haven't the govt pursuing you as such as Saussy did. You probably didn't know such things as Saussy as well. Such that was revealed by James Earl Ray, and Judge Jim Garrison. Garrison's words of "the rulers of the darkness of this world," pretty much says it all, that which most people don't want to know.

Perhaps, the good Lord has a new mission in mind for you, and your talents. Consider the following:

Christians will not immediately need to renounce their faith in God “simply on the basis of the reception of [this] new, unexpected information of a religious character from extraterrestrial civilizations.” However, once the “religious content” originating from outside the earth “has been verified” they will have to conduct “a re-reading [of the Gospel] inclusive of the new data…”
– Vatican Astronomer, Eminent Theologian and Full Professor of Fundamental Theology at the Pontificia Università della Santa Croce in Rome [Connected With Opus Dei], Father Giuseppe Tanzella-Nitti

We have definitely closed one age, at the end of 2012. What this "new age" in the coming years brings? For those that have ears to hear, and eyes to see...



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[1] Interesting, that the XO yearns and hopes to be the CO. To someday become the Captain of his own ship. Not all XOs realize that dream and goal. Chiefly because they are deemed not fitting for the task. That assessment coming generally from their CO. Their Captain.

Blogger Shimshon December 31, 2012 9:09 AM  

Vox, I say chronological, with a thorough index. And for columns that refer to past columns, footnotes with the original name and page number.

Anonymous szook December 31, 2012 9:20 AM  

Knew this was coming....and yet :-(

Anonymous Hood December 31, 2012 9:21 AM  

if people would rather have the columns in chronological order or grouped by subject.

Both have merits. Maybe chronological with a subject index?

As a side note, I can't say this change was unexpected as the posts per day seem to have shifted less from the politics and philosophy to more with your writing and other ventures. I hadn't identified if it was a shift in interest or just simply because of the writing project you were in the midst of. It appears to be more of the former. Thanks and I look forward to the ebook.

Anonymous Susan December 31, 2012 9:27 AM  

VD, your political predictions may have been unreliable, but they were always entertaining reading. Your logic can be unintentionally amusing sometimes.

As to the arrangement of your columns in book form, I would vote for grouping them by subject. Would make it easier for referrals when looking up one of your columns. One other way to consider would be to group them by year, then sub-group them by subject. Used to have a textbook arranged that way and found it quite useful for reference.

Anonymous Pablo December 31, 2012 9:37 AM  

Been reading your column for the last ten years or so. Sorry to see it go, brother, and yet I understand. Great exit. And I'm glad we still have VP and AG to visit.
Cheers.

Anonymous Josh December 31, 2012 10:00 AM  

So long, thanks for all the fish?

Nicely done for the last decade. And, even if you consider it a macro level failure, it was as astounding micro level success, turning many here towards libertarianism.

Anonymous Steveo December 31, 2012 10:02 AM  

Well done VD, and now, wnd bookmark deleted. Will continue to read here and AG. Good luck and may God Bless!

Anonymous Josh December 31, 2012 10:02 AM  

If you ever feel the urge for political commentary again, might I suggest the American conservative magazine?

Anonymous Kickass December 31, 2012 10:32 AM  

Subject then chronological.

OpenID ZT December 31, 2012 10:49 AM  

Thanks for all the fun WND articles VD. They have often been thought provoking and I credit you to my discovery of a more libertarian way of thinking.

I will still be reading the blog of course and I enjoy the fiction you write, so I look forward to "Thrown of bones".

Anonymous FUBAR Nation (Ben) December 31, 2012 10:58 AM  

Sometimes you just need to let it go. After the Steve Keen column, which garnered almost no attention, I realized that most people are just interested in getting pissed off and not really investing the time into obtaining a greater understanding of the world.

Maybe the buddhists have a point. You can't change people. Change has to come from within.

Anonymous The Gray Man December 31, 2012 10:59 AM  

I have sort of felt like you've almost been repeating yourself on some things in your column--that happens to a lot of columnists, though yours were not empty words and needed to be repeated.

Everything has its time, though.

I am thnakful for your column as it brought me here to VP and has influenced my life philosophy in more than one way. In fact, I am probably a very different person thanks to this blog.

Anonymous The Man December 31, 2012 11:36 AM  

That seems basically to be the Christian spirit. Everyone should read Chesterton's "The Ballad of the White Horse." http://www.cse.dmu.ac.uk/~mward/gkc/books/white-horse2.html


"The wise men know what wicked things
Are written on the sky,
They trim sad lamps, they touch sad strings,
Hearing the heavy purple wings,
Where the forgotten seraph kings
Still plot how God shall die.

"The wise men know all evil things
Under the twisted trees,
Where the perverse in pleasure pine
And men are weary of green wine
And sick of crimson seas.

"But you and all the kind of Christ
Are ignorant and brave,
And you have wars you hardly win
And souls you hardly save.

"I tell you naught for your comfort,
Yea, naught for your desire,
Save that the sky grows darker yet
And the sea rises higher.

"Night shall be thrice night over you,
And heaven an iron cope.
Do you have joy without a cause,
Yea, faith without a hope?"

Blogger ashepherd December 31, 2012 11:55 AM  

Your columns have been interesting, but on the whole less pithy and thought provoking than this blog, which I read every day for a dose of sane thought.

I certainly appreciate the way you ended your final WND column. I wholeheartedly agree.

I lived in Berkeley in the '60s and knew the die was cast back then, but I held out some irrational hope. As an engineer I have watched the US culture follow an exponential curve downward. Exponentials have such an imperceptible slope at the beginning then turn very suddenly to follow a steep path of unbelievably rapid and irreversible change. I've been watching for that turn and I think it's happened in this last decade.

I too am going to focus on writing. Writing for those who are going to be facing the hardest times of their lives.

Anonymous Tom B December 31, 2012 11:59 AM  

Excellent article, Vox. Sorry to see the column go. As for your prediction on American freedom (prophecy is more apt a word) may it be fulfilled with no blood shed. God bless.

Anonymous Koanic December 31, 2012 12:11 PM  

"The column, on the other hand, has been flat for years."

Oh. Still, the column might have a much larger turnover, and therefore be a major entrypoint to the blog. That was my sense anyway. Time will tell.

Anonymous Sawtooth December 31, 2012 12:20 PM  

Boomers haven't been properly bashed here as of lately.

They are long overdue for another good throttling.

Anonymous hh December 31, 2012 12:49 PM  

"I'll be interested to know if people would rather have the columns in chronological order or grouped by subject."

Both -- put them into subjects and then within those group make in chrono -- that's the only logical way to make it work IMHO...

Blogger Nate December 31, 2012 12:57 PM  

". Probably a two-volume set in hardcover and ebook sometime next year. The hardcovers will be about 650 pages and in the $29.99 range apiece, the ebooks will probably be around $4.99. "

I am gonna hold out for the Live Free or Else .44 magnum edition.

Blogger Nate December 31, 2012 12:59 PM  

and yes.. I want it signed... with a spent shell casing for a bookmark... shot by Spacebunny her own self.

I'm thinking 100 to 150 bucks is not an unreasonable price.

Anonymous Syfy fan December 31, 2012 1:10 PM  

"I'll be interested to know if people would rather have the columns in chronological order or grouped by subject." - VD

By subject.

Anonymous Phil Mann December 31, 2012 1:41 PM  

Have to admit, what first made me read a VD article was the need to see what this strange looking kid with the Mohawk could possibly have to say. Took a while before I got the joke.

But for years the real writing and thinking have been here at VP anyway. As long as the thoughtful posts as amplified by the ilk continue, not much has really changed.

Anonymous hideous December 31, 2012 1:45 PM  

Very well said for the last column Vox. Congratulations on completing an excellent, thought-provoking body of work that has had real impact on people.
And even in a losing battle, how much better to be on the field delivering hard strokes in the cause of right, instead of on the sidelines merely watching?

Anonymous Flannel Avenger December 31, 2012 2:01 PM  

Congratulations on a good run.

In regards to what I would like to see for your forthcoming collection of columns, I think you should go with chronological order. It would be nice if you had an index in the front of the book with tags about the subject of the columns for easy reference, and perhaps a quick 2013 intro to ones you'd like to reflect on.

Also, I think you should see if there's any chance that Franken will take you up on that death match since we're reminiscing on things...

Anonymous zen0 December 31, 2012 2:06 PM  

Sawtooth December 31, 2012 12:20 PM

Boomers haven't been properly bashed here as of lately.

They are long overdue for another good throttling.


Considering the way things are regressing, maybe you could start calling them the Busters.

Blogger RobertT December 31, 2012 2:12 PM  

great coda

Anonymous Tad December 31, 2012 2:29 PM  

@Vox Day

I know it's the last column and all and that you need to get it all out. But, again, with the screwy "secessionist" talk, attempting to give validation to gigantic nothing? What's up with that??

Anonymous Daniel December 31, 2012 2:34 PM  

I hope you wear your trousers rolled. Well done.

Blogger Nate December 31, 2012 3:19 PM  

"But, again, with the screwy "secessionist" talk, attempting to give validation to gigantic nothing? "

Tad... for you...Observable reality appears to be as difficult to manage as the written word.

Anonymous RJ December 31, 2012 3:52 PM  

Tad:

You still aren't tall enough for this ride...

Anonymous Shutup, Tad December 31, 2012 4:00 PM  

What Nate said

AND

Shutup, Tad.

Anonymous daddynichol December 31, 2012 4:03 PM  

Agree with Stilicho on subject then chronological order.

Anonymous Tad December 31, 2012 4:05 PM  

@Nate

Tad... for you...Observable reality appears to be as difficult to manage as the written word.

There's no secession movement of any significance in this country and therefore nothing to observe. Yet, some like to claim there is, as though their claim makes it true. It's not productive to portray wishes as reality.

Anonymous daddynichol December 31, 2012 4:16 PM  

Agree with Stilicho on subject then chronological order.

Anonymous daddynichol December 31, 2012 4:16 PM  

Agree with Stilicho on subject then chronological order.

Anonymous Godfrey December 31, 2012 4:22 PM  

"The die is cast. There is little more to say, except wait and watch as events play themselves out." Vox


These are my sentiments exactly. Empires come and they go.

Anonymous onejohn512 December 31, 2012 4:31 PM  

Vox sorry to see the column go. Have enjoyed it from the beginning, when I saw it referenced by J.O. Grabbe's site. Miss his stuff too now that he's been gone for nearly 5 years (by the way who might you or the ilk reckon as close to his site for interesting reading). Hope you keep the blog as it's a must read.

Hope you do an occasional column like others I still enjoy reading though not necessarily weekly.

Best wishes to you and those you love this coming year!

Anonymous Fred December 31, 2012 4:34 PM  

You ended the WND commentary exceedingly well. Thanks for your work.

Blogger IM2L844 December 31, 2012 5:29 PM  

Vox, nice article to close out your WND column.

Tad, you, Muammar Gaddafi, Hosni Mubarak, Bashar al-Assad and a few others all share at least one thing in common. Chronic Myopia. A slow trigger/fast bullet scenario simply doesn't occur to you as ever having the potential to actualize at anytime in the future. Look around, Tad. The times they are a changing. Rapidly.

Maybe a few years down the road, when you're standing there trembling in a puddle of your own urine mumbling "WTF just happened? Who could have ever seen something like this coming?", we will be there, in your head, reminding you that we did.

Anonymous Anonymous December 31, 2012 5:47 PM  

I'll miss your column but I do think it appropriate that you end it now...2013 is going to be a nasty year. Thank you and God bless you!

Anonymous 11B December 31, 2012 5:57 PM  

I know it's the last column and all and that you need to get it all out. But, again, with the screwy "secessionist" talk, attempting to give validation to gigantic nothing? What's up with that??


Tad, don't be too quick to dismiss everything and believe the status quo will last forever. In 1995, would you have characterized the talk about gay marriage as:

"screwy "gay marriage" talk, attempting to give validation to gigantic nothing? "

I would have. I never would have believed that gay marriage would come into existence.

Right now secession is being held back, not because there are not a large number of people who would desire it, but because logistically it is not feasible. I would imagine more people in America today support secession than people who supported gay marriage in 1990.

The problem with secession is that the populations are too mixed. What is the point in Texas breaking away when half the state is filled with minorities who don't share the belief in a limited government and depend on the state for assistance?

Until that problem and others are addressed, secession won't come about. But just because it sounds silly doesn't mean it won't happen. I mean, what could sillier than a discussion about gay marriage in 1990?

Anonymous Tad December 31, 2012 6:00 PM  

@IM2L844

Look around, Tad. The times they are a changing. Rapidly.

The times are always changing. What exactly is it you see in these changing times that provoke you or Vox Day to believe there is a secessionist movement afoot? I see nothing. Zero. This Texas things is dud that was launched by folks unhappy with the election results. It's going no where and there is no indication it will do anything but retreat back into the minds of the conspiracy theorists.

Maybe a few years down the road, when you're standing there trembling in a puddle of your own urine mumbling "WTF just happened? Who could have ever seen something like this coming?", we will be there, in your head, reminding you that we did.

Yes. Maybe. And maybe a few years down the road when we are watching reindeer and unicorns fly through the sky we will will all wonder what the hell we ate the night before to cause such weird dreams.

Anonymous 11B December 31, 2012 6:02 PM  

Yes. Maybe. And maybe a few years down the road when we are watching reindeer and unicorns fly through the sky we will will all wonder what the hell we ate the night before to cause such weird dreams.

The same could have been written about gay marriage twenty years ago.

Anonymous Tad December 31, 2012 6:07 PM  

@11b

Right now secession is being held back, not because there are not a large number of people who would desire it, but because logistically it is not feasible. I would imagine more people in America today support secession than people who supported gay marriage in 1990.

10 x 10 is still only 100.

Until that problem and others are addressed, secession won't come about. But just because it sounds silly doesn't mean it won't happen. I mean, what could sillier than a discussion about gay marriage in 1990?

Vox Day and a few others talk as though the secessionist moment is upon us; as though things have gotten so terribly bad we are on the brink of some sort of revolution or revolt. But of course none of that is true, no matter who says it. The Tea Party is even losing influence as it demonstrates to a wider audience that it is filled with nuts and dolts.

By the way, it was in 1993 that the Hawaii Supreme Court ordered that the state "must show a compelling reason" to ban gay marriage and that a lower court must hear a case that was brought challenging the ban on same sex marriage. Two years later, Utah banned same sex marriage in anticipation of the practice being approved somewhere.

Anonymous Tad December 31, 2012 6:08 PM  

@11b

The same could have been written about gay marriage twenty years ago.

Not really. See above.

Anonymous 11B December 31, 2012 6:18 PM  

Not really. See above.

OK, look back 25 or 30 years. Same deal. People would have thought you were a f**king lunatic for advocating gay marriage.

The point is things that that seem impossible have a way of happening. There are many examples that seem more far fetched than simple secession. Secessionist movements have occurred throughout history and will continue in the future. Whether or not it happens in the USA, time will tell.

Another thing you have to consider is that you are thinking of secession in terms of white, libertarian, red staters wanting to break away from the big daddy big government. I think a more plausible secessionist movement might be Mexicans wishing to rejoin the SW with Mexico similar to the Albanians in Kosovo wishing to break away from Serbia.

Blogger Rantor December 31, 2012 6:20 PM  

Thanks for the columns, looking forward to your adventures in fiction, and may e some new non fiction..

Anonymous E. PERLINE December 31, 2012 6:23 PM  

I was awake at 3:30 AM (we geezers don't seem to need much sleep) when I had a thought. Why did the American people elect Obama?

Here's my answer. You know that I believe we have a choice of three brains to use when making decisions. I've been put down by my family and friends for admitting that.

Here is how we use the Reptilian Brain- When dominant, the Reptilian Brain can calculate (idiot savant) and be inarticulate (autism) and practice self-defense by seeking revenge. But it is the brain that dreams and dreams are 95% meaningless in the real world.

Yet the Democratic Party stays with a Reptilian approach. It fits the Reptilian Brain of the audience perfectly because the audience was never taught to use its Reasoning Brain when listening. That's what I was thinking the other night.



Anonymous Rex Little December 31, 2012 6:26 PM  

Don’t put your faith in gold or guns, still less in governments, but in Jesus Christ.

As I understand it, when a Christian says "put your faith in Jesus Christ", he normally means that if you believe in Him and accept Him as your savior, you will go to heaven rather than hell when you die. It does not mean you should expect Him to come down and fix what's wrong here on Earth right now; the Bible says that, while this could happen tomorrow, it might be thousands of years away.

(The foregoing is what I understand from what Christians here and elsewhere have written. Please correct me if any of it is mistaken.)

If you put your faith in gold and/or guns, that doesn't mean you expect those things to get you into heaven. It means you expect them to help you survive and (relatively) prosper during the coming hard times. I'm under the impression that Vox and most of the Ilk do indeed have that sort of faith (though obviously not in governments; that would be just absurd).

So the statement quoted above is misleading. There's nothing wrong with putting faith in gold, guns, and Christ, each for its/His own purpose.

Anonymous Phil - Chicago December 31, 2012 6:29 PM  

Sorry to see you leave WND. Your column at WND way back in 2001 got me interested in this blog and I have been a regular (and most often silent) reader of your work and the comments from the Ilk. I have always thought you and I were much alike - your Christianity and love of gaming (wargaming and general computer games) in particular pulled me in. I dont disagree with much - I tend to dislike soccer in favor of hockey, but that is probably due to my environment. I have wondered why you dont care for hockey, as Minnesota is a great hockey state. But soccer does tend to be more 'strategic' and my view of it has become more favorable. That is what being here and reading your comments pretty much every does, I guess... The ability to make a logical argument on behalf of a certain viewpoint gives me clarity.

I wish you well with your books - I have bought most of your previous efforts, up to and including Throne of Bones. By the way - the production standards for the book are top-notch. Keep em coming, and I will keep buying, for as long as I am able.

But please, dont quit the blog! I wouldnt have a go-to blog site to enjoy during my day. ;)


Anonymous El Zinky Pinky December 31, 2012 7:15 PM  

Well, you had a good run, Vox. Done and done, daddy-o.

Blogger Nate December 31, 2012 7:20 PM  

EZP!!! ALL HAIL!!! President Emeritus of VQPF!!!!

Blogger Nate December 31, 2012 7:22 PM  

"Vox Day and a few others talk as though the secessionist moment is upon us; as though things have gotten so terribly bad we are on the brink of some sort of revolution or revolt."

math is hard.

Blogger Nate December 31, 2012 7:24 PM  

Tad

I don't know where you live... but moderate radio talk shows.. local shows... not Rush or Sean Hannity... take calls on secession daily all over the south.

Anonymous Curtis December 31, 2012 7:48 PM  

As I understand it, when a Christian says "put your faith in Jesus Christ", he normally means that if you believe in Him and accept Him as your savior, you will go to heaven rather than hell when you die. It does not mean you should expect Him to come down and fix what's wrong here on Earth right now...

Occupy.

Now, go look up the word.

Anonymous Salt December 31, 2012 7:50 PM  

I'll be interested to know if people would rather have the columns in chronological order or grouped by subject.

Index, Vox. index.

Anonymous HyperGayMouse December 31, 2012 9:06 PM  

A good move, your talents are better spent on gaming, sci-fi writing, and getting kids that are into gaming and sci-fi laid.

Blogger James Dixon December 31, 2012 9:09 PM  

> There's no secession movement of any significance in this country and therefore nothing to observe.

Tad, on this subject, you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

Anonymous Josh December 31, 2012 10:33 PM  

Holy Shit, an EZP sighting...

EZP, have you made your decision on admitting Tad to the VQPF?

Anonymous szook January 01, 2013 1:24 AM  

"I'll be interested to know if people would rather have the columns in chronological order or grouped by subject." - VD

By subject. perhaps with a an index listing the chronological order.....

Anonymous Anonymous January 01, 2013 2:30 AM  

Grouped by subject in chronological order please.

James Stephenson

Blogger Breadbasket January 01, 2013 4:39 AM  

Vox: Sad to see the column end, but blog is more fun in that we get to see you go off on a differnent tangent. By the way, look forward to you publishing your columns is book form, will be buying that for sure.

Anonymous Outlaw X January 01, 2013 6:24 AM  

I'll be interested to know if people would rather have the columns in chronological order or grouped by subject.

"By subject, then chronologically within the subject group."

I agree, but learned a long time ago never to tell Vox what he should do.

Anonymous Anonymous January 01, 2013 11:52 AM  

Tad,
I was recently attending a prestigious military college as an E6 with 11 years of experience, 5 in combat arms and 6 in Military Intelligence. In this class, there were 24 students in three subclasses of 8 each, for example: A naval commander/helicooter pilot, A naval commander/Destroyer driver, A marine major/Fighter pilot, An airforce Light colonel/fighter pilot, An army captain from artillery, A navy Seal, A special forces E7, A former artillery grunt (E6), three airforce linguists each with an average of 3 languages, a marine linguist (I think he spoke 4), Four army enlisted, two former marines who are now army E5's, one who had done innumerable missions for special forces and another headed to selection after airborne school, an army E7 who worked for the SGM of the army in recruiting command and who is now somewhere in the diplomatic corps and so on and so forth. To sum up, their resumes and experiences were impressive all around. When discussion turned to politics before the election, slowly but inexorably each of us in my small class of 8 admitted that although they wanted romney to win ALL had wished that Ron Paul would have been the nominee. So, after the election when discussing Obama's second term plans and I pointed out some nasty provision therein, the Special forces guy turned to the navy helicopter pilot and said, out loud and without Irony: "So sir, when do we start taking care of the domestic enemies?" You civilians have no idea how divided the military is now, there are many obama babies in the lower ranks, but many of the "middle management" are ready to KILL PEOPLE. Many feel that the country they risked their lives for and sacrificed friends and family for HAS BEEN OVERTHROWN. We are in a dangerous place. Secession is a joke? God I hope secession is all we have coming down the pike!

Anonymous Anonymous January 01, 2013 1:41 PM  

The above comment was me, jeremiah... I know y'all hate anonymous posts

Anonymous A Visitor January 01, 2013 2:54 PM  

God bless, Vox! I'll miss your WND columns! Your last five paragraphs of this last column struck me as profound. You shall be missed!

Anonymous Sensei January 01, 2013 11:59 PM  

I ended my (strictly political) blog with an equivalent conclusion and farewell a while back. Thanks for those little doses of the red pill for over a decade, Vox.

With all due respect to those at WND, I will no longer have any reason for going there. It seems to me that the "we'd better rally that conservative base or things are going to get really bad" people must be either trying to profit off of those who haven't been keeping up with things, or in denial.

The Titanic is going down; the only question is whether the right decision is to jump in a lifeboat or to sacrifice yourself and offer your seat to someone else. (I prefer the option which involves building more lifeboats from materials on board, but that's the engineer in me)

Blogger Antonio January 25, 2013 2:55 PM  

Vox, sorry to see you end your column, but I understand your reasoning. It's got to be difficult to admit that you have had no impact on the Americans' desire to self-destruct. I certainly wish you had succeeded.

Now, I may only visit WND for the Judge and Ilana Mercer, and maybe Stossel and Walter Williams. Come to think of it, there may be a lot of reasons to still visit there.

Anyway, I have very much enjoyed your column over the years. Your initial photo intrigued me enough to start reading your musings. What, a Christian Libertarian who looks like that!? I gotta check this out! :-)

Good luck, and God bless,
Antonio

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