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Saturday, December 22, 2012

Why they're desperate

If setting up and suiciding a drugged-up patsy to take the fall for shooting up a suburban school of sweet, innocent, white elementary schoolchildren isn't enough to move the dial in favor of gun control, then what on Earth will?
The public’s attitudes toward gun control have shown only modest change in the wake of last week’s deadly shooting at an elementary school in Newtown, Connecticut. Currently, 49% say it is more important to control gun ownership, while 42% say it is more important to protect the right of Americans to own guns....  However, support for gun control remains lower than before Obama took office.  In April 2008, 58% said it was more important to control gun ownership; just 37% prioritized protecting gun rights.
The increased hysterics we're seeing from the media is their horror at the dawning realization that a very large and statistically significant number of Americans will never, ever give up their guns, not even if Washington arranges to have a kindergarten shot up every single day.  It unsettles them deeply to recognize that the mere fact of Obama holding office scares more people than elementary school massacres.

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Anonymous Cryan Ryan December 22, 2012 11:09 AM  

When you stand back and observe the chasm that exists between the left & the right, it's not difficult to imagine how the Civil War began.

With 2/3 of a million white guys killed out of a total population of about 30 million, that would be equivalent to what, 6 to 8 million deaths today?

Something tells me they won't all be white guys this next time.

Anonymous Godfrey December 22, 2012 11:10 AM  

... and why shouldn't we fear the murderers in chief? All one has to do is to compare the body count.



Anonymous Godfrey December 22, 2012 11:12 AM  

Maybe we need more controls on the government murder machine?

At a very minimum we need "Drone control".

Anonymous The OASF December 22, 2012 11:13 AM  

Outstanding post - this really says it all.

Alcohol was banned, and it spawned a massive crime syndicate wealthy beyond the dreams of avarice, and made booze available on every street corner at prices which could not be refused.

Drugs were banned. And now drugs are found on every street corner, at prices which could not be refused. Even larger fortunes have been made from narcotics trade over booze... so much so that drug empires are now being given sovereign quasi-state status. The military/security/industrial complex, attached to the hip of the government, profited mightily as well as the prosecution/defense lawyer class with all the new drug laws.

Guns will be banned. And they will be made available on every street corner at prices which can not be refused without government-approved background checks and 10-round clip limits. Difference: drugs and alcohol are the necessity of p.o.s. losers. Guns are the necessity for Christians and Patriots. As expatiate Colonel Reed has pointed out - it would not take much more than a black-hawk helicopter with 1/2 dozen or so jar-heads to sack the White House. And there aren't enough 100 dollar bills that a off-shoring multinational CEO can stuff into his jacket to stop an armor piercing round.

If America is saved or we can at least back out of The Collapse in a relatively orderly and even prosperous manner and go our separate ways as regional powers - you can thank the 2nd amendment and our forefather geniuses who understood its absolute necessity.

Anonymous Red Comet December 22, 2012 11:14 AM  

It seems reasonable enough that the killer was just another outcast who lost it once he realized that he never had a chance in today's anti-family materialist world where even normal men can't find a decent wife.

However, neither would I be surprised if evidence surfaced showing he spent a week vacationing at Club MK-ULTRA, whereupon he became convinced those UN gun laws weren't going to pass themselves.

Anonymous PR December 22, 2012 11:28 AM  

That's encouraging. But how much do you think that a lack of increase in public support for more gun grabs will dissuade the grabbers from grabbing? I don't recall a lot of support for Obamacare either. It seems reasonable to me that this lack of support for more gun control and the big increase in gun/mag/ammo sales might make them more inclined to go toward the route of "mandated gun owner insurance" rather than "hand them over now"?

Blogger Shimshon December 22, 2012 11:31 AM  

Vox, even though a large number of Americans will have to have their guns pried from their cold, dead fingers, how many Americans that are against gun control or confiscation will cave at the first site of armed and costumed thugs showing up at their doorstep to seize them? I wouldn't be surprised if all but, say, 10% do. Probably even more. Still a huge number of holdouts, but most people will cave rather than face the full force of the state head on. But that kind of support would make even Congress creeps think twice before passing such a law.

Anonymous The OASF December 22, 2012 11:31 AM  

"It seems reasonable enough that the killer was just another outcast who lost it once he realized that he never had a chance in today's anti-family materialist world where even normal men can't find a decent wife."

It is much more likely that this guy was carefully identified, profiled, watched and then executed (perhaps completely separate from the incident in the woods somewhere)and then framed or made a "patsy" in VD's perfectly eloquent phrase above.

The coroner reported that the kids were shot at close range with a rifle, i.e. they were lined up and executed. The media's nonsense reports, as usual, can not even get the cover story right. They claimed only handguns were found at the scene. A rifle may have been found in the car as they "reported" - but that seems nonsensical as well. The whole story is bogus. This was a Blackwater/CIA operation exchanging collateral damage for the furthering of that awesome greater good.

Anonymous Roundtine December 22, 2012 11:50 AM  

It is a feedback loop. The more shrill the left gets, the more guns Americans buy. It's like the bootleggers and Baptists; I wouldn't be shocked if Piers Morgan is taking payments from Sturm Ruger.

Anonymous Aeoli Pera December 22, 2012 12:12 PM  

It unsettles them deeply to recognize that the mere fact of Obama holding office scares more people than elementary school massacres.

Rhetorical? Allusion to fearful voting patterns? I mean, Obama's a well-bred pussy, not a dictator.

Anonymous Aeoli Pera December 22, 2012 12:20 PM  

If America is saved or we can at least back out of The Collapse in a relatively orderly and even prosperous manner and go our separate ways as regional powers - you can thank the 2nd amendment and our forefather geniuses who understood its absolute necessity.

Hard to say. We've never seen the disintegration of a nuclear power before, and mutually-assured destruction is a strange game. Which borders will have stockpiles within them? Which will have antimissile defenses? Which will fail to establish an intelligence community quickly?

I can write the headline right now: Kwanstainian nuke exploded due to failed launch, say Anglotopians (20,000 dead)

Blogger Shimshon December 22, 2012 12:20 PM  

Regarding what really transpired...Unlike the old days, when recordings were unusual or at least uncommon, probably every public school can be taken for granted to have many well-placed cameras, and this one in particular has been noted as having a secure entrance. However, I doubt the footage of Lanza's grant of access or entrance or his rampage will ever see the light of day. It would be indelicate, don't you know. And such speculation as to what happened is just conspiracy theory bunk, and you shouldn't entertain such thoughts. Unfortunately, many people who don't trust the government vis a vis guns will stick to the official story of the day. It would probably make them too uncomfortable to accept that yes, the government is actually a nefarious gang and is no different from many other governments throughout history.

Anonymous Aeoli Pera December 22, 2012 12:22 PM  

Should have been 20,000,000 because Kwanstainians would prefer concentrated population centers.

Anonymous Zartan December 22, 2012 12:25 PM  

Over 4000 people/year in the United States are walking along minding their own business when they are killed by a vehicle.

30-50K total per year if you include those killed while in or operating these dangerous devices!

BAN CARS-for the children!

Source (DOT)

Anonymous A Visitor December 22, 2012 12:28 PM  

"The increased hysterics we're seeing from the media is their horror at the dawning realization that a very large and statistically significant number of Americans will never, ever give up their guns, not even if Washington arranges to have a kindergarten shot up every single day. It unsettles them deeply to recognize that the mere fact of Obama holding office scares more people than elementary school massacres."

I'm sure their heads are experiencing the same phenomenon from the opening scene from Scanners right now: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HY-03vYYAjA

Anonymous The other skeptic December 22, 2012 12:31 PM  

I mean, Obama's a well-bred pussy, not a dictator.

Are there any parallels with this guy

Blogger Miss Carnivorous December 22, 2012 12:43 PM  

My ex-boyfriend, a taxidermist and hunter, owns guns but is not a gun afficionado, once told me that he had no interest in owning an "assault" weapon, until the government told him he couldn't have one. Then he went out and bought one.

What's interesting to me in all these displays of antigun hysteria on the left is their fear. They have long accused the media, the government and the right of stoking public fear in order to enact laws on surveillance and suspensions of personal privacy. If I had a penny for every time a liberal told me they don't read newspapers or watch the news because, " I refuse to live in fear," I'd be rich. Supposedly showing the spector of Willie Horton helped get Bush Sr elected. Now showing images of crazy white 20 somethings with twirly pinwheel eyes will get dems elected.

We might point out to them that while they only seem to be afraid of murderers with guns we are afraid of murderers with guns and knives and fists and stomping feet.

Anonymous The other skeptic December 22, 2012 1:04 PM  

Whiteness tools -- The English flag and its real meaning

Anonymous stg58/Animal Mother December 22, 2012 1:23 PM  

The Stainless Banner is the ultimate whiteness tool.

Tad is just the ultimate tool.

Anonymous stg58/Animal Mother December 22, 2012 1:23 PM  

The Stainless Banner is the ultimate whiteness tool.

Tad is just the ultimate tool.

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Anonymous Retrenched December 22, 2012 1:53 PM  

"It seems reasonable enough that the killer was just another outcast who lost it once he realized that he never had a chance in today's anti-family materialist world where even normal men can't find a decent wife."

Nah. Most likely he was just fucked in the head.

Anonymous zen0 December 22, 2012 2:13 PM  

Tad is just the ultimate tool.

It bears repeating

Anonymous Rally December 22, 2012 2:36 PM  

"It is much more likely that this guy was carefully identified, profiled, watched and then executed (perhaps completely separate from the incident in the woods somewhere)and then framed or made a "patsy" in VD's perfectly eloquent phrase above."

I don't give the administration enough credit for the competance to both pull that off and ensure the absolute secrecy in the aftermath. More likely one of these "black ops" guys would be selling a script to Katherine Bigelow a few months later.
And while I disagree with most of their agenda, I don't think they are evil enough to pull it off. Evil enough to send weapons to kill Mexicans? Yes. Drones to kill suspected terrists? Yes. But 6 year olds? I think that is beyond them.

I agree Adam Lanza was likely a patsy, but the entity responsible is not of this world. Lanza seems like the kind of kid who stared into the Abyss. Something stared back.

Anonymous stg58/Animal Mother December 22, 2012 2:48 PM  

+4

Anonymous aj December 22, 2012 2:51 PM  

OT:

http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/senate/274293-senate-resolution-tells-village-voice-to-take-down-adult-entertainment-section

Anonymous re allow anonymous comments December 22, 2012 2:57 PM  

"But 6 year olds? I think that is beyond them."

It's NOT beyond them. Bill Ayers planned to massacre elementary school children in the 1960s, which is why the SDS kicked him out. Now he dines at the white house and advises president Jarrett. There is -nothing- that is beyond them

Anonymous Todd December 22, 2012 2:59 PM  

Presidents come and go. They're just figure heads.

Where is the center of true power in the US? Is it with the king or the king makers?

I don't believe in a government conspiracy.

I believe Satan, who wants to show himself as God, has his chosen people too.
I can't picture the anti-christ just showing up one day without the road being prepared for him by his people. The true earthly power resides with their pyramid power structure.

They have their own black ops and probably co-opted the government ones.


Why did Adam Lanza destroy his hard drive? He didn't care what people thought of him so he shouldn't have anything to hide.

Anonymous RINO December 22, 2012 3:29 PM  

Guys, there are reports that Adam Lanza is still alive and living in Saudi Arabia.

Anonymous Yeah December 22, 2012 4:03 PM  

Who told you that Lanza destroyed his hard drive?

Anonymous Susan December 22, 2012 4:11 PM  

Saw recently that WalMarts in 5 states have sold out of weapons. Bill Ayers built the ultimate WMD when he sponsored/mentored Barack Obama.

Anonymous WinstonWebb December 22, 2012 4:27 PM  

RINO December 22, 2012 3:29 PM

Guys, there are reports that Adam Lanza is still alive and living in Saudi Arabia.


May we have a source, please?

Anonymous Tedd December 22, 2012 4:33 PM  

"Yeah - Who told you that Lanza destroyed his hard drive?"

There were several mentions of that, this being one:

http://www.csmonitor.com/Innovation/2012/1218/Reconstructing-Adam-Lanza-s-hard-drive

Anonymous elmer December 22, 2012 5:03 PM  

I believe, from reading the comments thus far, that some STILL do not fully comprehend -- The Beast. Some here say, "They're not capable (or willing)." You might want to rethink that. Many do not comprehend just who our overlords are. I mean, physically and biologically speaking. Gov. Ventura is getting so ever close to the truth. [1]

In this study, pay special attention to the hierarchical flowchart presented. Besides the top human (under the non-human), make note of the Intelligence Group, and start making Veterans Today, a daily news stop. Have the courage to be a believer, and stop being a coward.

Through this study, pay very special attention to the link to the interview with Anthony La Vey, son of the late [2] Anton La Vey. His voice is high-pitched for a reason. Study carefully, the details contained in his affidavit. For expanded study, go here, and pay even more special attention to the link to the Satanic Calendar. This calendar is provided by the junior La Vey...




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[1] That only Time Warner's editing is keeping the full story from the public. I told Sean Stone, that eventually they are going to have to go the direct internet route, to get the full message out, unedited.

[2] Emphasized for a reason. Revealed in the interview. I don't know why the interview ends abruptly. If there is a part 2, it has been apparently lost.

Anonymous R7 Rocket December 22, 2012 5:14 PM  

The problem for the fed government's confiscation effort is that it is $16T in debt with $55T in unfunded liabilities. It's hard to send in thugs to confiscate guns if you are unable to pay them real currency.

And the debt is rapidly rising.

Anonymous elmer December 22, 2012 5:36 PM  

@R7 Rocket

Make that $222T and climbing.[1] Pay special attention to the last set of links, in the Beast link. (my previous) In that set, it mentions Leo Wanta. Wanta just gave a personal interview this past Thursday.

All here, should take the time to listen to Wanta and study him carefully. Something significant may happen beginning next week. In Marilyn's Q&A, I was the one who asked for the clarification on the "basket of currencies" beginning Jan. 1, 2013. Barnewall's answer is most interesting. Also, if you have not been so informed, Wanta will introduce you to Col. Timothy Osman, CIA (deceased) [not in 2011]...




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[1] Source via Weiss Research Inc., of which both myself and my father are subscribers.

Blogger tz December 22, 2012 6:09 PM  

But we soon will have drones filling the sky. A Catholic commentator who isn't strictly for gun control was complaining about the gun-rights people not even wanting to discuss. Then he is worried this might abridge his 4th amendment rights.

Evil is the root. The psychosis - where we refused to lock him up is once removed. Guns were merely convenient.

How do you stop someone willing to kill his own mother (to get additional guns?), and is suicidal? Ought we ban box cutters too?

Blogger rcocean December 22, 2012 7:14 PM  

Its nice the Boobeoisie are still against gun control but that doesn't really matter does it? The average Joe is/was against useless foreign wars, foreign aid, busing, affirmative action, illegal immigration, TARP and 50 other things - but we still got them. Why? Because what the Power Elite wants, the power elite gets. So why doesn't the power elite care enough about gun control to use the Judiciary, a bi-partisan "Grand Compromise" or the Federal Bureaucracy to impose it on us? That's the real question VD.

Anonymous TheExpat December 22, 2012 7:27 PM  

42% with guns > 49% without guns

just sayin'

Anonymous David December 22, 2012 7:28 PM  

On the bright side gun sales are way up. Walmart is selling out.

Anonymous Jack Amok December 22, 2012 7:56 PM  

I wouldn't be surprised if all but, say, 10% do.

Which would leave something on the order of 27 million guns still owned by private citizens. Suppose that 10% decided to shoot the costumes who came to get their guns? How badly do the constumes want to be outnumbered?

Plus, what R7 Rocket said. I suspect that dynamic will be behind a lot of increasing liberal panic, on guns and everything else. They've already run out of other people's money and have resorted to using Imaginary Bernanke Bucks. They've only got so much time before that jig is up too.

Anonymous Noah B. December 22, 2012 8:11 PM  

"But 6 year olds? I think that is beyond them."

We're talking about people who support partial birth abortions. These people are monsters.

Anonymous Mina December 22, 2012 8:33 PM  

I have been typing "NRA" into the news.google.com search engine for the past two days and watching with amazement as every single news outlet seems to be on the exact same page as every other: "Nation shocked by ridiculous suggestion to arm schools NRA"

This post is the best explanation why that I have seen so far.

Anonymous Vic December 22, 2012 8:37 PM  

When they come to take my guns, I will gladly had them over. Bullets first.

Anonymous Todd December 22, 2012 9:02 PM  

The problem for the fed government's confiscation effort is that it is $16T in debt with $55T in unfunded liabilities. It's hard to send in thugs to confiscate guns if you are unable to pay them real currency.

My belief it is the unsustainability of the debt that is accelerating their confiscation efforts.

What happens when they (PTB) tell an armed America that "You F'ed up, you trusted us"?

Anonymous Mina December 22, 2012 9:19 PM  

Friday Dec 19th, a 14yo boy saved himself and his three siblings, whom he was babysitting, using his fathers handgun.

INTERESTINGLY I have seen no reports of this story in any MSM site.

http://www.federaljack.com/?p=178564

Blogger Desert Cat December 22, 2012 10:23 PM  

Shimshon December 22, 2012 11:31 AM
Vox, even though a large number of Americans will have to have their guns pried from their cold, dead fingers, how many Americans that are against gun control or confiscation will cave at the first site of armed and costumed thugs showing up at their doorstep to seize them? I wouldn't be surprised if all but, say, 10% do.


Shimson, I don't think you realize what a profound effect that would have. I would consider even 5% resistors a very good thing. If one in ten attempts to seize guns results in return fire and possibly dead gun-grabbing thugs, this would stop the effort in it's tracks. Remember Solzhenitsyn!

Anonymous paradox December 22, 2012 10:28 PM  

Shimshon
I wouldn't be surprised if all but, say, 10% do. Probably even more. Still a huge number of holdouts, but most people will cave rather than face the full force of the state head on.


They are destined to lose for one unalterable reason: We have the numbers, and they don't. If only 1% of American gunowners are left to fight for liberty, that would mean 2,400,000 guns in the hands of 750,000 Patriots fighting a guerrilla war on their own territory. Think of it this way: even if the USG were ever 99% successful, it still leaves nearly 21 times the IRA's per capita numbers that has fought the British empire to a standstill for generations. (I am not championing the IRA or its terrorism. I'm only noting the historical fact that a handful of riflemen can mire whole armies.) So, please, enough whining about future gun confiscation efforts-they cannot succeed!(1)



(1) Boston T. Party, Boston's Gun Bible (revised) (Colorado: Javelin Press, 2002), 39/10

Anonymous Mina December 22, 2012 10:34 PM  

slightly off topic, don't know if any of you saw this

According to anti-feminist Charlotte Allen, a male janitor or “even some of the huskier 12-year-old boys” would have made all the difference in the Newtown massacre, simply because they are male. National Review published Allen’s controversial piece on Wednesday, where she attributed the massacre to Sandy Hook’s female staff and its “feminized setting.”

Anonymous Mina December 22, 2012 10:41 PM  

I had someone point out to me that the babysitting situation in Phoenix happened in June but was reprinted a couple of days ago in the linked media outlet as something that happened "Friday".

That explains why it is not being reported elsewhere.

My apologies for the error.

Blogger rcocean December 22, 2012 11:29 PM  

Slightly OT: But did you know Christmas is on December 25th? Fascinating. I did not know that.

Blogger rcocean December 22, 2012 11:30 PM  

Slightly OT: Did you realize the fiscal cliff is approaching? I know, more or less everyone has been discussing it, but thought it would be fascinating to discuss.

Anonymous Mina December 22, 2012 11:31 PM  

yeah, but did you see the article? knowing that something is and actually reading what someone wrote and the hilarious comments that ensued are two totally different experiences.

Blogger rcocean December 22, 2012 11:32 PM  

Slightly OT: Have you ever considered how many people on the internet can't recognize sarcasm or irony? Or how many are liberals pretending to conservative? Or how many are suffer from Aspberger syndrome and post on the net?

Its fascinating.

Anonymous Mina December 22, 2012 11:43 PM  


Have you ever considered how many people on the internet can't recognize sarcasm or irony?
Yes
Or how many are liberals pretending to conservative?
No
Or how many are suffer from Aspberger syndrome and post on the net?
No

I do think about how many people are the Internet are vapid a@@holes with nothing to say and no point to make that still post and talk anyway.

Anonymous Mina December 23, 2012 12:10 AM  

Strangely the only positive news I have seen today (several articles slanted favorably in the view of reducing gun control, expanding carry) are on Fox News and The Examiner.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/12/22/our-first-responsibility-is-to-protect-our-kids/

Anonymous Aeoli Pera December 23, 2012 12:41 AM  

We've never seen the disintegration of a nuclear power before...

Excepting the USSR, apparently (facepalm). On the upside, I just learned about the Lisbon Protocol.

Anonymous kh123 December 23, 2012 1:06 AM  

"I'm only noting the historical fact that a handful of riflemen can mire whole armies."

True enough; observe this Frontline video of the Taliban from a few years ago.

It's 3 Stooges action for most of it, but it underlies the fact that even someone as ragtag as they are can still keep billions of dollars and more than a decade of modern military effort at bay. Granted, they've been doing this for a long time these people, which goes to show that it may not be so much excellent training as it is the mindset that accepts the reality of a seemingly unending situation. And as well, it's more than just the talib in this fight, as they get help from outside groups (Hiz-b-Islami) as well as funding from the Saudis and weapons from God-knows-where.

Anonymous kh123 December 23, 2012 1:29 AM  

Interesting to see MAIG plastering a new round of "Stop the violence, people!" adverts on Youtube, complete with Hollywood faux concern. Would be more entertaining to have all the Mayors of said group, along with senators and congressmen, do the ad, and with a straight face state that they have no access to personal protection of their own.

Anonymous Matt Strictland December 23, 2012 1:30 AM  

What will happen? I dunno. but I don't expect pry from dead hands scenario, picked off one at a time if it goes down like the Left seems to count on It may well be "I quit the Union: or a a "hunt the bastards down" with every tool at hand scenario instead.

That does not BTW require even a significant majority to do either of these things especially in a brittle system like we have and it can easily spiral. The loathing for the current system is getting deeper by the minute.

That said, I hope nothing will happen either way but if it does assuming nothing has changed is foolish.

Anonymous Rubber Biscuit December 23, 2012 2:06 AM  

Want to prevent this? Then make it understood to every law enforcement agent, local and federal, that when they come to enforce it, they better say goodbye to their wives and children first.

But understand this. If this plays out, it will play out by international law such as a UN/NATO mandate.

If you think it will be impossible because you think the government will be to broke to pull it off, you are delusional. TP'sTB have been planning this a long time and are way ahead of you.

Anonymous Clay December 23, 2012 2:45 AM  

Mina, you've sprung upon us most recently. I think I like the way you think, sometimes.

Declare yourself.

Anonymous Clay December 23, 2012 2:53 AM  

BTW

Ya'll quit doing that "Face/Palm" shit. Those Feminist sites do that.

Or, you can tell me to get fucked, whatever. I don't have feelings to get hurt.

Blogger Galt-in-Da-Box December 23, 2012 3:02 AM  

How many dead OMFR Khazars does it take to bring on an attempt at civilian disarmament (emphasis on ATTEMPT, because a government that admits it's powerless to deport 12 million illegals will be in deep shit in dealing with 150 million gun owners.
Bring it on, Comrade Chucker!

Anonymous But December 23, 2012 3:05 AM  

"I'm only noting the historical fact that a handful of riflemen can mire whole armies."

This is only true when right-wing counterinsurgents fight a left-wing insurgency. In such cases, the government is hampered by left-wing media attention and left-wing-inspired rules of engagement, and the insurgents receive support from outside leftist powers.

When left-wing regimes fight right-wing insurgencies, the government takes the gloves off, and gets no scrutiny from the leftist international media, while the insurgents get no help from outside. In due course, all the insurgents are wiped out or get demoralized and quit.

Anonymous map December 23, 2012 3:13 AM  

Newtown, CT, had 65% of all of its donations went to democrats. So no one cares even less.

Anonymous Outlaw X December 23, 2012 3:49 AM  

Clay - Waterboys.

We're sailing on a strange boat
heading for a strange shore
We're sailing on a strange boat
heading for a strange shore
Carrying the strangest cargo
that was ever hauled aboard

We're sailing on a strange sea
blown by a strange wind
We're sailing on a strange sea
blown by a strange wind
Carrying the strangest crew
that ever sinned

We're riding in a strange car
we're followin' a strange star
We're climbing on the strangest ladder
that was ever there to climb

We're living in a strange time
working for a strange goal
We're living in a strange time
working for a strange goal
We're turning flesh and body
into soul

Anonymous Idle Spectator Cares December 23, 2012 5:15 AM  

Hey did you guys see that new advertisement up with the celebrities all talking about gun control? Chris Rock, Conan O'Brien, Christina Applegate, ect.

No guns for me, but you get limos, security, and private armed escorts?


Suck my enormous, magnificent, idling balls, Hollywood. That's good. Now get back in the color picture screen. <3 <3 <3

Anonymous kh123 December 23, 2012 5:56 AM  

Tad almost got his naming off the list of victims with that one. One of the actresses almost burst forth with a tear while threatening that a list existed, and wouldn't it be better if it never had to be read.

MAIGgots.

Anonymous Idle Spectator December 23, 2012 5:57 AM  

Oh and some other things from my shimmering spleen I needed to vent to the mononuclear phagocyte system and onto the blog:

I was clickin' along on my information super thighway with the typing device resting on idlelap, and Steve Sailer's photo is perplexing. That's one large man. Judging by the neck and skull morphology, he looks about 6'4" to 6'6". Or is it just my screen playing tricks?

And even though I told Hollywood to suck my balls, Megan Fox is still ok. She's just so talented in the Transformers movies. Those two properties of balls and talents are not mutually exclusive.

Anonymous daddynichol December 23, 2012 9:30 AM  

It happened in June than reposted Dec 19.

Anonymous The other skeptic December 23, 2012 11:06 AM  

At some point TPTB are going to decide that more drastic measures are needed.

I imagine they, like the Clinton Regime, will find some loosely Christian religious group somewhere who they can claim were aiming to force Christianity on little children at gunpoint.

Anonymous Red Comet December 23, 2012 11:18 AM  

Now there's another pompous celebrity anti-gun PSA on youtube. Comments disabled of course. What does that tell you?

Anonymous The other skeptic December 23, 2012 11:40 AM  

You mean like this one

Anonymous DonReynolds December 23, 2012 11:50 AM  

Matt Strickland...."What will happen? I dunno. but I don't expect pry from dead hands scenario, picked off one at a time if it goes down like the Left seems to count on It may well be "I quit the Union: or a a "hunt the bastards down" with every tool at hand scenario instead."

I am certain the elite of this country, determined to bring about disarmament of the yoemanry, would be much delighted by some high profile MSM cases of cranks and crackpots barricaded in their homes, wrapped in a Confederate flag, loud and defiant. After a few shots to satisfy their honor, they surrender and their firearms correctly confiscated by the police. This would actually be the happy scenario to the elite.

Unfortunately for the elite, Americans learned from the colonial experience that a trembling defense behind barricades is no way to get on the scoreboard. Once we know that they are coming to take the weapons, there is every reason to expect gun owners to take the offensive against those who would disarm them...... rather than waiting quietly in their living room for their turn to being overwhelmed by numbers. The Left would love to see them being defeated in detail, but the outcome is likely to be a bit more messy. I can imagine the enforcers being trapped in their government office buildings, unable to leave because of the unhappy persons waiting for them on the sidewalk.


Anonymous Mina December 23, 2012 12:04 PM  

Here to learn how the big boys analyze current events and decide their strategy, knowing how the bigger picture of slow civilization collapse both affects and is affected by them.

Also following: Chris Martenson ('the Crash Course'), James Howard Kunstler ('the Long Emergency'), and Karl Denninger ('the Market Ticker Guy')

Was referred to this blog through the "manosphere" (StingRay) - some topics in which I have a peripheral interest, but mostly only as they apply to the bigger picture.

I think I understand the rules and culture here and plan to read more than comment, but if I have something on-topic of interest to contribute as I do my own research and make my own plans, I'll post it. Otherwise I will try to stay out of your way.

Thanks for asking.

Anonymous Mina December 23, 2012 1:30 PM  

I know this thread is dying/dead - but can anyone repost the link to the PDF about the Russians disarming their citizens? In it I think the military folks in charge commented that had not the citizens been compliant and sitting passively waiting for them in their homes when they came to disarm them, that the military / Government could have been beaten.

I should have paid closer attention when it was posted, but the conversation came up at home this morning about how well we could expect to do against the Government were they to attempt a confiscation program and so now I need the document.

Thanks.

Anonymous Aeoli Pera December 23, 2012 2:48 PM  

Clay,

I'll consider that.

Anonymous daddynichol December 23, 2012 4:06 PM  

Ask some of the old Soviet army Afghan vets if they were successful.

Anonymous Rubber Biscuit December 23, 2012 6:15 PM  

...because a government that admits it's powerless to deport 12 million illegals will be in deep shit in dealing with 150 million gun owners. Bring it on, Comrade Chucker!

Of course, you assume that all "150 million gun owners" have the balls and somehow having guns make them immune to the nature of mankind's propensity to be loaded into rail-cars and/or shot in the back of the head like so much sheep.

Blogger Khylov December 23, 2012 6:42 PM  

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Anonymous A Visitor December 23, 2012 7:55 PM  

Now, the question being, assuming Catalonia achieves independence, will it a) be recognized by Madrid (fat chance, my six months in Spain and deep dive into Spaniard politics say) and b) if it is recognized by Madrid (in some unfathomable alternate universe), will they decide to adhere to the Schegen treaty?

I remember the one time I went to Catalonia. It was Barcelona but the nationalists' (as they're called in Spanish) presence was felt everywhere, from the street signs to the subway station and beyond. Interesting times...

Anonymous A Visitor December 23, 2012 7:56 PM  

Also, OT, I really regret not signing up for an African safari when I was there. The gun shop was literally two floors down in the same building as my apartment.

Anonymous Mina December 24, 2012 12:57 AM  

STATE OF THE UNION WITH CANDY CROWLEY

Interview with Asa Hutchinson; Interview with Senator Lieberman; Interview with Steve LaTourette, Mick Mulvaney

Aired December 23, 2012 - 09:00 ET

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1212/23/sotu.01.html

Watch how Crowley keeps trying to frame the discussion around gun control and Hutchinson refuses and instead maintains his frame around school safety.

Quite brilliant.

Anonymous JohnS December 24, 2012 8:24 AM  

@Mina 1:30pm

I think they were referring to Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn's The Gulag Archipelifo.

http://archive.org/stream/Gulag_Archipelago_I/Gulag_Archipelago_djvu.txt

It's his first hand account of his arrest by Soviet secret police and life in the gulags (prison camps) afterwards. The injustice and arbitrarness of the ordeal are palpable.

Also here's a link to a podcast with a long segment from the audiobook version of Gulag

Anonymous JohnS December 24, 2012 8:47 AM  

Oops, that's archipelago. Stupid touchscreen...

Anonymous Anonymous December 27, 2012 10:30 AM  

Vox: terrific and insightful analysis of the current attempt to disarm the public of militia weapons. Keep up the good work!

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