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Wednesday, January 23, 2013

The bright lights of the hrududu

You may recall that I've mentioned how the Rabbit People have three basic weapons to which they resort.  One of their most important ones is exclusion; to a herd animal exclusion is the worst of all possible fates because they are incapable of even imagining survival on their own.

Now consider in this light an intriguing one-star review of A THRONE OF BONES that appeared yesterday courtesy of one Virginia Conterato of EdinaMinneapolis.
It's very difficult to review a book so badly written. The wordiness attempts to disguise the utter lack of decent storytelling and world building. There is a whole lot of NOTHING happening along with badly written dialogue and poorly developed characters. It is not often that I write negative reviews, but I felt I needed to warn others away from this terrible book. THis book is truly terrible. Don't waste your time, much less your money. 
It's even harder to convincingly review a book one hasn't read.  Or, as appears to be the case, even bought.  Isn't it amazing how strongly some of these one-star reviewers feel they need to "warn others" and save them from exposure to the terrible, horrible, doubleplusungood novel?  As if otherwise, they might inadvertently read such a miniscule tome?  It tends to remind one of McRapey warning his readers not to read this blog or even mention Lord VoldemortRSHD.  This is classic Rabbit People behavior, especially in light of how Mrs. Conterato clearly hasn't read the book.  You'll note that attack reviews are usually phrased in the most general of terms; if they do provide details, they usually just happen to come from things that take place in the text selection available on Amazon.  Seriously, is there anyone who genuinely believes that Kay is one of the very few people who bought the hardcover?

Although I have to admit, the idea of an angry little rabbit flipping furiously through all 854 pages just to write a credible-sounding fake review does amuse me.  It's worse than TIA's unclimbable Mount Chapter Four.

Now, why would a married woman in her late forties be so upset that she would go to the trouble of posting a fake review at this particular time?  The answer, I suspect, is to be found at Change.org, where last year Kay signed the petition "Senator Amy Klobuchar: Publicly Come Out in Support of Same-Sex Marriage".  Logic suggests the following scenario: McRapey repeatedly pounds the homophobic drum, Kay's little rabbit ears perk up, and she bravely hops forth to do battle on behalf of the Whatever warren and her lesbian writer friends at The Loft.

And then the bright lights appeared....

Now, you'd have to have lived in the Twin Cities to fully appreciate what I find funniest about the good doctor's wife.  You see, when Kay signed the petition, she claimed to live in Edina.  But she doesn't.  As it happens, in high school I dated a few girls from Edina, including one who lived just down the road from Southdale. Which, you see, is why I happen to know that Kay, like many others in certain parts of Richfield and southwest Minneapolis, only affects to live in the more prestigious city....

I now await, with no little amusement, the declarations of how scary the Rabbit People find it to discover that Lord Voldemort now has the dark and dangerous powers of Google-fu at his disposal.  I have to confess, I'm more than a little tempted to knock on her door and offer to sign her nonexistent hardcover the next time I'm in EdinaMinneapolis.

The other interesting thing, in addition to the fake reviews, is that there are at least two rabbits who are giving helpful ratings to all the negative reviews and rating all of the positive reviews unhelpful.  Given the timing, one of them is likely our little friend Kay.  It's not so much the review as the rating of the review that is of interest here:
2 of 3 people found the following review helpful

1 out of 5 stars: hard to follow yet very predictable January 21, 2013
By  Tracy

This a long book, very slow read. Not a lot of action or suspense. You can tell whats going to happen almost every step of the way. It is layed out like it is 7 or 8 books stuck together. The chapter titles are just the name of the character that will be prominent for that chapter. Then the next chapter is for the storyline of the next character and so on. After forcing myself to finish the book, it is only a lead up to a second book! It does't even stand on it's own! Horrible!  
Helpful indeed.  This is how the Rabbit People fight; it's all nonsensical, passive-aggressive attacks intended to be plausibly deniable, sniping from behind corners, and appealing to the herd; the correct way to respond is not through reactive passive-aggression, but rather to shine a light on the little critters's activities.

We are not like them, we are better than them.  They know it.  And they know we know it.  That is why they hate us.


UPDATE: Some are incredulous that I would post information that is freely available to the public about a suspected fraud here on this blog.  Very well, let me be clear.  I am demanding an admission from Mrs. Conterato that she neither purchased the hardcover nor the Kindle version, nor did she read the book in its entirety prior to posting her review.  On a related note, I am requesting the order records from my publisher today; since the book is not available in retail bookstores, I should be able to confirm within days that she did not, in fact, ever purchase the hardcover that she claimed to have reviewed.  I will remove the public information from this post if a) Mrs. Conterato admits she did not buy the book and her review is a fake one, or b) if she proves that she did purchase the book and read it in its entirety.

UPDATE II: I just got an email from the publisher containing a list of the books sent to Minnesota.  None was sent to anyone named Conterato or to the address shown above.  Or to Edina.... This is not yet conclusive proof as one more possibility exists that I am presently having tracked down, but it is a significant step in that direction.

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Anonymous realmatt January 23, 2013 4:36 AM  

I use the internet to stalk Russian strippers who have left me. Onne daaaayyyy!

Anonymous Todd January 23, 2013 4:39 AM  

All I can say that her previous Amazon reviews were'nt in the fantasy genre which says a lot.

Anonymous VD January 23, 2013 5:05 AM  

I use the internet to stalk Russian strippers who have left me.

Speaking as one whose close friend used to make a habit of dating Russian strippers, I can reliably inform you that the stalking usually goes the other way around.

Anonymous VryeDenker January 23, 2013 5:26 AM  

I don't know how someone can honestly call you a bad writer.

Anonymous Jack Amok January 23, 2013 5:30 AM  

She says "It is not often that I write negative reviews...", but 3 of her 11 Amazon reviews are 1 star. The 1-star review she gave a J.K. Rowling (non-Harry Potter) book even started with "I don't usually write negative reviews..."

Apparently it's not often that she write original ones either. I'm wondering what McRapey has against Rowling that he unleashed his angry angoras on her.

She married a doctor you say? What kind, a shrink or a real one?


Anonymous Jack Amok January 23, 2013 5:32 AM  

I don't know how someone can honestly call you a bad writer

[Lou Costello voice]

Because he's a bad, bad man

[/Lou Costello voice]

Anonymous vryedenker January 23, 2013 6:22 AM  

This a long book, very slow read. Not a lot of action or suspense. You can tell whats going to happen almost every step of the way. It is layed out like it is 7 or 8 books stuck together. The chapter titles are just the name of the character that will be prominent for that chapter. Then the next chapter is for the storyline of the next character and so on. After forcing myself to finish the book, it is only a lead up to a second book! It does't even stand on it's own! Horrible!

Oh Em Gee, it's like a book that has character development and an easy-to-follow plot. Ain't nobody got time fo' that. It needs moar wereseal.

Anonymous Lord Velveteen January 23, 2013 6:28 AM  

All I can say that her previous Amazon reviews were'nt in the fantasy genre which says a lot.

Todd, most of the positive reviews fall into this category as well. So what does it actually say?

Anonymous The Great Martini January 23, 2013 6:39 AM  

These days, Googling a little too assiduously is considered "doxxing," and mentioning showing up on someone's doorstep is definitely an Internet "threat." Don't shoot the messenger, this is just how things seem to be at the moment. As a person speaking from experience, I know how infuriating the Internet can be. Just a little (friendly?) advise.

Anonymous The Great Martini January 23, 2013 6:40 AM  

"advice," damn I always fuck that one up.

Anonymous VD January 23, 2013 6:50 AM  

Choose a name under Name/URL, Anonymous, as per the posted Rules of the Blog.

Anonymous Anonymous1 January 23, 2013 6:51 AM  

OK... so anyway, posting the address of a reviewer is a bit childish, don't you think?

Anonymous VD January 23, 2013 6:53 AM  

Googling a little too assiduously is considered "doxxing," and mentioning showing up on someone's doorstep is definitely an Internet "threat."

Alert Interpol....

Anonymous DrTorch January 23, 2013 6:55 AM  

"but I felt I needed to warn others away from this terrible book. THis book is truly terrible. "

Comedy gold. I think I could have helped her finish it for greater impact, "Vox Day is a terrible author and this book is written terribly. Don't read it or it will be a terrible waste of time."

What's even funnier is the craving for prestige associated w/ living in Edina. I understand it's an affluent suburb (and I like and respect the people I've met from Edina), but to an outsider (aka 99.9% of the world), Minneapolis is a bustling, hip metropolis, while Edina is assumed to be a rural prairie village that envies the sophisticiation shown in Hoosiers' Hickory, IN.

Anonymous Mr Green Man January 23, 2013 6:55 AM  

Did Amazon remove her threat to withhold sex?

Blogger Jason Arnopp January 23, 2013 6:56 AM  

I have no idea of your book's merits, but posting a reviewer's home address is utterly reprehensible. It's also a classic authorial defence mechanism to assume that a negative reviewer can't possibly have read your book...

Anonymous VD January 23, 2013 7:04 AM  

OK... so anyway, posting the address of a reviewer is a bit childish, don't you think?

That's better, thanks. No, I don't think so. I think writing reviews of books you haven't read because you don't like the author is both childish and stupid. Posting home addresses is simply good reporting, as per the example recently set by the Journal News.

And you wouldn't want someone to think that the wrong "Virginia Conterato" was held responsible for writing fake reviews, would you? I didn't out her nor force her to post that fake review, she did that to herself. I'm just giving her a bigger microphone.

Look, I didn't invent the rules of the game. I didn't decide that outings were legitimate. I didn't decide that home addresses and attacks on family members were fair game. But you can't seriously expect me to not play by the rules that have been laid down over the course of the last 12 years. I've had death threats, email-bombing campaigns by Muslim radicals, outings, you name it. It doesn't perturb me.

But if want to play in public, well, you had better expect the same.

Anonymous The Great Martini January 23, 2013 7:09 AM  

Vox Day, as depicted tomorrow on Scalzi's blog.

OpenID herenvardo January 23, 2013 7:11 AM  

It's a long, long time since I last saw the word 'hrududu'. Classic.

When the single Bright Eyes was first released, I had just finished Lord of the Rings for the first time. I remember thinking it was more appropriate for the Grey Havens than Watership Down - 'Is it a kind of dream, floating out on the tide...' [sigh] Nostalgia ain't wot it used ter be. :)

Anonymous Anonymous1 January 23, 2013 7:15 AM  

OK, so you are better (and know it) than some sort of hypothetical human/rabbit hybrid, but not better than Muslim radicals.

Anonymous zen0 January 23, 2013 7:15 AM  

Herbivores exist so that carnivores can feed. Food chain 101.

Anonymous VD January 23, 2013 7:18 AM  

I have no idea of your book's merits, but posting a reviewer's home address is utterly reprehensible. It's also a classic authorial defence mechanism to assume that a negative reviewer can't possibly have read your book...

What, you're just figuring out that I'm supposed to be the bad guy here? I had Lord Vader's March played at my wedding, mate. Do you really think I care, in the slightest, what you consider to be reprehensible? By what moral standard do you make that claim?

I don't mind negative reviews. What I object to are fake and fraudulent ones. If Kay Conterato emails me the Amazon record proving that she purchased the hardcover and is able to pass a simple three-question quiz concerning events that took place in the novel, thus proving that she actually read it, I will not hesitate to apologize to her and edit the post accordingly.

As it stands, I demand an admission that she neither purchased the hardcover nor read the book in its entirety prior to her posting of the Amazon review.

Blogger Jason Arnopp January 23, 2013 7:22 AM  

"By what moral standard", you sayyyy? Oh, just the general, decent, human one. Y'know, the one which suggests that posting someone's home address on the internet is wrong.

Your name is currently bouncing around social media, with the general consensus being that you are insanely insecure and out of line. Has this tantrum really been worth it?

Blogger Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus January 23, 2013 7:24 AM  

Bah, reading is for sissies anywise!

Anonymous Tico January 23, 2013 7:24 AM  

You're approaching Laurell K. Hamilton levels here mate.

Anonymous VD January 23, 2013 7:26 AM  

You're approaching Laurell K. Hamilton levels here mate.

(laughs) Give me some credit, mate. Read the update. You don't seem to realize that I have the ability to prove she never bought the book she claims to have read in her review.

Remember, the actions of a superintelligence only look like madness to the less intelligent.

Anonymous Move Zig January 23, 2013 7:29 AM  


I see no address of anyone in this. I went over post several times, too. Closest thing are names of towns she does not live in. WTH?
Was the original post edited?

Anonymous VD January 23, 2013 7:31 AM  

"By what moral standard", you sayyyy? Oh, just the general, decent, human one. Y'know, the one which suggests that posting someone's home address on the internet is wrong. Your name is currently bouncing around social media, with the general consensus being that you are insanely insecure and out of line. Has this tantrum really been worth it?

I repeat, the actions of a superintelligence only look like madness to the less intelligent. Do you seriously think I didn't anticipate this sort of reaction from the Rabbit People? Do I genuinely sound as if I'm having a tantrum of any kind or I don't know precisely what I'm doing?

Are you going to change your mind if I prove that the review was fraudulent and the reviewer admits that she has never even seen the book? Or is it your position that fraudulent reviews are always acceptable and should never be exposed at any time?

Anonymous Dr Dan January 23, 2013 7:32 AM  

If she did buy your book, she didn't like it, so I doubt she would want you to sign it when you go round her house. And if she didn't buy it, how will you be able to sign it, given she doesn't own a copy? Maybe you should give her a ring first to find out so you don't waste a trip?

Blogger Jason Arnopp January 23, 2013 7:34 AM  

Even if it's fraudulent, you're wrong to post someone's home address, whether it's public or not.

The answer to your second question above is "Oh dear God, yes". But I shall now back slowly away, leaving you in your reality tunnel.

Anonymous Tico January 23, 2013 7:41 AM  

Wow, you think the update makes you less like Laurell K. Hamilton? Appear less insecure? It's worse! Have you read many amazon reviews? Its entirely possible she just selected the wrong format for the review.

Let it go, Rabbit Man.

Blogger matt_b January 23, 2013 7:41 AM  

'Remember, the actions of a superintelligence only look like madness to the less intelligent.'

Oh dear God, you are kidding there, aren't you? Because the rest of your comments suggest you might actually be serious about saying that. Which would be both hilarious and kind of scary.

Anonymous VD January 23, 2013 7:42 AM  

Even if it's fraudulent, you're wrong to post someone's home address, whether it's public or not.

I disagree. I believe the correct response to frauds is to expose them. But then, I'm not Rabbit People.

The answer to your second question above is "Oh dear God, yes".

Do you wish to reconsider that answer to the second question when you take into account that the Dread Ilk are larger in number than the Whatever readership? And that many of them have Amazon accounts?

I see that you have three whole reviews for "Beast In The Basement" published 21 Sep 2012. Five-star average too, very good.

Now, are you absolutely sure that fraudulent reviews are always acceptable to you?

Anonymous Luscinia Hâfez January 23, 2013 7:44 AM  

I had Lord Vader's March played at my wedding, mate.
Spacebunny should have walked down the aisle to Marche au supplice. And said "I do" to the final G-major chord and pizzicato.

Anonymous VD January 23, 2013 7:47 AM  

Wow, you think the update makes you less like Laurell K. Hamilton? Appear less insecure? It's worse! Have you read many amazon reviews? Its entirely possible she just selected the wrong format for the review.

Save the rabbit talk. We've already established that I'm immune to it. Certainly it is possible. And if she wishes to claim that and sends me the Amazon receipt for her Kindle purchase to her account, I'll be pleased to retract my claim that she's never even seen the book.

Of course, we still have to establish if she actually read it or not.

Anonymous Sherlock Holmes January 23, 2013 7:48 AM  

Super intelligent? Don't make me laugh.

You have issues, it's clear to everyone.

You're an idiot who tries to created hatred of others by giving them a ridiculous nickname mocking their existence. "Bunny People" as you call them, clearly have reason to hate you.

Now, stop talking. You're lowing the IQ of the entire internet.

Anonymous trk January 23, 2013 7:48 AM  

love this blog...I swear I started to hear the Imperial March as I read that post. Herd animals also run far away from threats , well as far as the herd runs when it thinks the perceived danger from direct confrontation is over..but herd animals also dont defend each other, they usually let the weak or sick ones die so that the may scurry away. I would be surprised if she answered your challenge.

Blogger Jason Arnopp January 23, 2013 7:48 AM  

Oh God, this is going to be one of those debates which is impossible to get out of, isn't it.

There are two very separate issues here.

1) Fraudulent reviews. A perfectly valid topic - no author likes them, but it's a tough nut to crack. Nigh-on impossible to prove whether someone has actually read your book, especially if it exists in physical print.

2) Threatening online behaviour. This, whether you mean it to come across this way or not, is what you are doing with this reviewer. If you really must insist on 'exposing' this reviewer, I would urge you to at least remove her address from your post, because it doesn't add to the point you're making at all. In fact, it detracts from the whole debate and makes you look seriously bad.

Anonymous Joe Doakes January 23, 2013 7:50 AM  

Bad form, Vox.

I agree she's a Southwest Minneapolis liberal who likes detective stories and hates fantasy, so I doubt she bought much less read your book.

But you're an award winning cruelty artist, not a DFLer, so you needn't stoop to their level of showing her easily available home address in order to eviscerate her review and humiliate her for posting it.

Captain Hook would be disappointed in you.

Anonymous Farida Y. January 23, 2013 7:52 AM  

Perhaps you should understand that different readers have different opinions. If you can't handle criticism from one reader alone, then not only are you unfit to be an author - you're also a highly immature bigot. One without solid reason for your actions, at that.

To post the address of a woman on the internet for all to see? Do you know the extreme danger you have just caused her? Do you know how much risk her life could be in right now? No. Because you are an inconsiderate child who can't handle things maturely, nor listen to anybody but yourself.

For the record, I haven't read your book, nor do I plan to. I've never even heard of you before. However, I suggest you set things right and offer that woman an apology soon before the authorities become involved, because trust me - they will.

So, she doesn't like your book. So, she's the odd one out. So what? Perhaps it's fraudulent, perhaps it's not. Not everybody's going to kiss your tush or your proclaimed fantastic writing skills; accept that like a bloody grown adult.

Anonymous zen0 January 23, 2013 7:53 AM  

What is the over/under on whether the lady eventually ends up whoring in Nevada?

Anonymous Mr Green Man January 23, 2013 7:54 AM  

This is a psychological case study, right? We were told to expect silencing behavior, and we're getting it played out. We've got their emissaries now calling for anything from removal of the post to a cessation of the blog. You just wanted to prove that they were, in fact, Rabbit People as defined previously, didn't you?

Anonymous Josh January 23, 2013 7:59 AM  

Oh my heavens, that google website and that white pages website are so horrible for posting people's addresses and phone numbers online! And even pictures of their streets! It's so terrible and ghastly!

Anonymous Mr Green Man January 23, 2013 8:04 AM  

To post the address of a woman on the internet for all to see? Do you know the extreme danger you have just caused her? Do you know how much risk her life could be in right now? No. Because you are an inconsiderate child who can't handle things maturely, nor listen to anybody but yourself.

I think that part of this is also an object lesson in the behavior of lefty newspaper owners who like to publish home addresses of thousands of law-abiding citizens to the cheers and congratulatory praise of the left.

The tinge of the protected class is funny, too. Louis L'Amour had a phrase, which I'm sure Vox lives by, when he held both the heiress and her flunkies at gun point, "Play the man's game, get your lumps just the same."

Anonymous Josh January 23, 2013 8:05 AM  

Huh, she also donated $200 to the Obama campaign.

Anonymous VD January 23, 2013 8:07 AM  

1) Fraudulent reviews. A perfectly valid topic - no author likes them, but it's a tough nut to crack. Nigh-on impossible to prove whether someone has actually read your book, especially if it exists in physical print.

I agree... except that in this particular case, I can actually do so. I expect to do so by the end of the day.

2) Threatening online behaviour. This, whether you mean it to come across this way or not, is what you are doing with this reviewer. If you really must insist on 'exposing' this reviewer, I would urge you to at least remove her address from your post, because it doesn't add to the point you're making at all. In fact, it detracts from the whole debate and makes you look seriously bad.

I'm not threatening anyone and you know it. As for making me look "seriously bad", please. We crossed that bridge about 11 years ago. I have complete carte blanche in that regard, do you not realize that?

To post the address of a woman on the internet for all to see? Do you know the extreme danger you have just caused her?

It was already there, my dear. Do you not understand how Google works? Hell, you can probably find a picture of her house if you want. Take it up with them, not me.

This is a psychological case study, right? We were told to expect silencing behavior, and we're getting it played out. We've got their emissaries now calling for anything from removal of the post to a cessation of the blog.

Hmmm, I did leave off the Voxiversity tag, didn't I. Must correct that.



Anonymous Josh January 23, 2013 8:08 AM  

To post the address of a woman on the internet for all to see? Do you know the extreme danger you have just caused her? Do you know how much risk her life could be in right now?

You must be new to this internet thing. I think for now it would be best for you to stay in your AOL portal and on Facebook. Clearly sites like Google are too much for your delicate sensibilities.

Anonymous Mr Green Man January 23, 2013 8:10 AM  

I must have missed the protocol. Doesn't Amazon have two types of reviews -- under any old handle, and a "Real Name Verified" review? We should note also that the review has that emboldened "Real Name Verified" under it. It seems like she wants people to know who she is.

I understand it's different if she had written "Queen Edina", and VD had discovered who she was. However, she set about to cause material damage to sales of the book, using the additional credibility of her Real Name Verified review account, with one of the standard boilerplate "I hate the author so I hate this book" kind of reviews, and now her defenders want to suggest that none of these actions were done by her, or she gets a pussy pass?

Anonymous anon123 January 23, 2013 8:11 AM  

I'm betting Contrato ends up claiming her boyfriend plays for the Irish.

Anonymous Norman Dale January 23, 2013 8:12 AM  

"Minneapolis is a bustling, hip metropolis, while Edina is assumed to be a rural prairie village that envies the sophisticiation shown in Hoosiers' Hickory, IN."

I bet the basketball goals in both cities are 10 feet tall.

Anonymous DrTorch January 23, 2013 8:13 AM  

Do you know the extreme danger you have just caused her? Do you know how much risk her life could be in right now? No. Because you are an inconsiderate child who can't handle things maturely, nor listen to anybody but yourself.

I don't know. So I'd like Farida to explain just how much danger she's in...why and from whom. I'd also like explained specifically how Vox's post changed this level of danger for her, and how she's in anymore danger than Navin Johnson.

Anonymous Azimus January 23, 2013 8:13 AM  

It is shocking to see what happens when you burst one of these people's bubbles and call them to account. How they do shriek so horribly when the comfortable blanket of faux-anonyminity (faux indeed she used her real name!) is pulled away and the target which they were expecting to sting safely from a distance is suddenly looking right at them.

That said, while any one of them is a pitiful creature there are many, many of them. And for this particular one it is already apparent that justice and truth mean little to her. My support is with the lion but there are a LOT of hyenas out there.

Anonymous Cinco January 23, 2013 8:14 AM  

I have to say, I am taking great pleasure in this form of Internet sadism.

There is so much at play here to enjoy.

First, you have what has a high likely hood of being a malicious review. Second, you have what many authors will appreciate is an attack back on a review that is totally lacking in specificity. Third, VD may actually be able to show evidence that the reviewer hasn't read the book. Fourth, VD is running for SFWA president; and, I suspect that is what he is really after with this posting.

VD is hedging his bets that his fellow SF authors will appreciate it, and vote for someone with balls?

Anonymous VD January 23, 2013 8:16 AM  

What is the over/under on whether the lady eventually ends up whoring in Nevada?

(laughs) Nice.

Anonymous The Great Martini January 23, 2013 8:16 AM  

It was already there, my dear. Do you not understand how Google works? Hell, you can probably find a picture of her house if you want. Take it up with them, not me.

It being public record is not a total defense in that regard, as a simple reductio can illustrate. You could well charge a person with some heinous act, then cite their meat-space ID and location, all public record. That is no defense. Granted, in this case, you're charging someone with a BAD BOOK REVIEW (!) It is still a bit quizzical why you would include the address at all. Unless, of course, you're just intending to annoy and infuriate your target. In which case, carry on...

Anonymous RedJack January 23, 2013 8:20 AM  

When I post reviews on Amazon (and TOB was one such review), I use my "real" name, with city and state address.

I have had a few authors email me about my comments. For the most part they wanted me to expand on what I talked about. Don't have the problem with it.

Blogger Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus January 23, 2013 8:21 AM  

Good grief, Vox, man up. There are always going to be idiots out there who haven't read what you actually wrote, but who know your political persuasion, and therefore throw out "stock" arguments about what you write. I have it happen with fair regularity. My usual response is to ignore it, since it's generally not worth my time to knacker at them - but that's because I have enough confidence in what I write to understand that it will stand on its own merit in the eyes of more intelligent and competent people than the ankle-biters.

Anonymous The Great Stupendo January 23, 2013 8:24 AM  

Third, VD may actually be able to show evidence that the reviewer hasn't read the book.

...really? I thought that that sort of brain scanning tech was still locked away in Warehouse 13/Area 51/that huge warehouse in Raiders of The Lost Ark.

Anonymous Marquee Doh Saudi January 23, 2013 8:26 AM  

You better watch out. The Tads will be at work soon.

Anonymous Salt January 23, 2013 8:26 AM  

Vox is so threatening with a blue drink avec umbrella, a little prosciutto and a pair of Italian loafers. I'm sure all the negativity shall cause him to shed a tear.



Anonymous VD January 23, 2013 8:27 AM  

That is no defense. Granted, in this case, you're charging someone with a BAD BOOK REVIEW (!)

No, not at all. I am charging her with a fraudulent book review. Do you truly not understand the difference?

My usual response is to ignore it, since it's generally not worth my time to knacker at them - but that's because I have enough confidence in what I write to understand that it will stand on its own merit in the eyes of more intelligent and competent people than the ankle-biters.

That's nice. How do you conclude that what I am doing shows a LACK of confidence? Have you forgotten that I asked a positive reviewer to take down a review when I knew he hadn't read the book? It's not about the opinion, it's about the probable fraud.

Anonymous The Great Martini January 23, 2013 8:39 AM  


No, not at all. I am charging her with a fraudulent book review. Do you truly not understand the difference?


I am corrected, but relative to the point of Internet threat, there isn't a lot of difference. You don't seem to appreciate what you're about to be accused of, which is probably going to be some variant of "stochastic terrorism." Yeah, Google THAT. Mofo!

Anonymous Starbuck January 23, 2013 8:40 AM  

Now, stop talking. You're lowing the IQ of the entire internet.

I just love it when someone insults another and happens to mispell a word or makes a typo. Just takes the wind out of their sails - metaphorically speaking of course.. heh

To post the address of a woman on the internet for all to see? Do you know the extreme danger you have just caused her? Do you know how much risk her life could be in right now? - Farida Y.

If her life is at such a risk, perhaps she should purchase a weapon to defend herself. Unless she is against the 2nd amendment. Then she just needs a cell phone to call the cops. Because we all know that when second counts, the cops are only 20 minutes away.

As for not understanding why VD is doing this over a bad review? I understand it completely. I find this very interesting. Pay attention Rabbit People. You might learn something. Hopefully you won't cry too hard from the harsh lesson you are learning. If you find yourself angry and lashing out, you didn't learn anything.

Blogger Joshua_D January 23, 2013 8:43 AM  

This. Is. Awesome.

Anonymous The Great Martini January 23, 2013 8:44 AM  

BTW, much of what I write has been tongue in cheek. The Internet has become a cray-crazy place.

Anonymous Mr Green Man January 23, 2013 8:54 AM  

So, with update three, we have that it seems unlikely that she could have read the book. (The "seems" here is on the order of Richard Dawkin's 6-out-of-7 "there probably isn't a God".)

I expect we'll now get either a demonstration of a denial of the facts (with the sophistry of questions of whether certain things, or anything, is knowable, and poses meant to convey the veneer of nuance when it's really a straight-up refusal of reality), or we'll see the "silence that gun" play out.

Anonymous zen0 January 23, 2013 8:56 AM  

The Internet has become a cray-crazy place.

Global Village. Love it or leave it.

Anonymous Salt January 23, 2013 8:58 AM  

Perhaps she'll claim to have read the Cliff Notes.

Blogger LP 999/Eliza January 23, 2013 8:59 AM  

Nein, fraud cannot be ignored. We will soon see that the review was a fake and/or the book was not actually purchased and read.

However, the issue still stands that jealously or indirect insults still exist about a writer who is clearly more intelligent than the R faxctor.

Anonymous G. Martin January 23, 2013 8:59 AM  

What's up with you self published (yes, MLP is close enough) authors? Grow a thick skin and stop being such a baby about a bad review. The time you spent putting this attack post together makes you look small, unprofessional, and pathetic. I will never buy one of your books, and I'm going to spread this post of your around warning other to stay away from your books.

You're a child, and you should be ashamed of yourself.

Anonymous VD January 23, 2013 9:02 AM  

Grow a thick skin and stop being such a baby about a bad review. The time you spent putting this attack post together makes you look small, unprofessional, and pathetic. I will never buy one of your books, and I'm going to spread this post of your around warning other to stay away from your books.

Rabbits gonna rabbit.

Blogger LP 999/Eliza January 23, 2013 9:02 AM  

Ha, the first 2 comments at amazon question the woman's *eligibility*.

Anonymous Cinco January 23, 2013 9:03 AM  

@Anonymous

"Just thought I'd drop by to point out that this is possibly the least professional conduct I've ever seen, up there with Jacqueline Howett's reaction to the review she got."

You must be new to the Internet.

Anonymous Cryan Ryan January 23, 2013 9:06 AM  

There once was a gal immune to reason,

Who penned a fake review quite un-pleasin'

But with the fraud soon exposed

The reviewer was hosed,

Cuz now ... it is wabbit season.

Anonymous Holla January 23, 2013 9:06 AM  

You really are fucking nuts, Vox.

Real authors don't have the *time* to attack individual negatives reviews - simply because they wouldn't have the *time* to respond to their critics. You go on personal jihads against crazy old ladies who live in cities in states no one gives a damn about.

Off the rails, man. I'd self-check for mad cow.

I'm going to have to read BONING THE THRONE now, though. Can I get a review copy?

Anonymous bub January 23, 2013 9:07 AM  

VD:
I now await, with no little amusement, the declarations of how scary the Rabbit People find it to discover that Lord Voldemort now has the dark and dangerous powers of Google-fu at his disposal.


proven correct:

matt_b January 23, 2013 7:41 AM
Oh dear God, you are kidding there, aren't you? Because the rest of your comments suggest you might actually be serious about saying that. Which would be both hilarious and kind of scary.


It's a scawy, scawy world.
What is it with the appeals to God from the atheists?


Jason Arnopp January 23, 2013 7:34 AM
The answer to your second question above is "Oh dear God, yes".



matt_b January 23, 2013 7:41 AM
Oh dear God, you are kidding there, aren't you?



Jason Arnopp January 23, 2013 7:48 AM
Oh God, this is going to be one of those debates which is impossible to get out of, isn't it.


Anonymous Farida Y. January 23, 2013 9:09 AM  

He didn't just grab any old address off Google and re-publicise it; he deliberately posted the address of a woman as a clear target of contempt. He singled her out for a specific reason. He's even threatening to "knock on her door" and encouraging others to do so by blatantly berating her publicly. And for what? For one fraudulent book review that he so obviously didn't have the maturity to handle

How is that, in any form, acceptable or insignificant? Especially with all that's been circulating in the media as of recent?

For God's sakes, it doesn't take a halfwit to realise what he's done and what it could lead to.

Anonymous Loki of Asgard January 23, 2013 9:09 AM  

Ah, shame, the weapon of the left.

"Oh, sha-a-a-ame on you for obviating the need for anyone in the world to type 'Virginia Conterato Minneapolis' into a Google search function and find her in the first unsponsored result. Her identity is of such critical importance to her that she writes reviews under her real name instead of a pseudonym. For sha-a-a-ame, you great bully!"

Perhaps they would not be so angry if you were a newspaper and publishing her name as part of an anti-gun crusade.

Fine trolling, though. Quite fine, almost worthy of a trickster god.

Anonymous Wendy January 23, 2013 9:10 AM  

@Sherlock

Please stop using that name. His grammar (and proofreading) was impeccable. Yours, not so much. Lowering IQs indeed.

To quote Nate lately: I CAN TYPING!!!

What threat? I don't see an address, just a name and a city. Vox made no threat. He didn't even say "your house may mysteriously be T.P.ed." A visit? From Vox? All the way from Italy? Over this? Uh, no. I wonder if the liberal mind is projecting their violent tendencies on the population as a whole? Most people just don't care.

Anonymous Loki of Asgard January 23, 2013 9:11 AM  

What is it with the appeals to God from the atheists?

I understand that some people will say "Oh God" in the throes of passion, regardless of their beliefs.

Anonymous bub January 23, 2013 9:11 AM  

au·thor
/'ôTH?r/
Noun
A writer of a book, article, or report.


Farida Y. January 23, 2013 7:52 AM
If you can't handle criticism from one reader alone, then not only are you unfit to be an author



Holla January 23, 2013 9:06 AM
Real authors don't have the *time* to attack individual negatives reviews



??????????

Anonymous Starbuck January 23, 2013 9:12 AM  

What's up with you self published (yes, MLP is close enough) authors? Grow a thick skin and stop being such a baby about a bad review. The time you spent putting this attack post together makes you look small, unprofessional, and pathetic. I will never buy one of your books, and I'm going to spread this post of your around warning other to stay away from your books.

You're a child, and you should be ashamed of yourself.


Well there is a sort of refusal to have sex with VD. It had to come sooner or later.

Anonymous ThornDavis January 23, 2013 9:12 AM  

Ah this is great! It's been months since I witnessed a live action breakdown on the internet. I liked the bit where he insisted that he was super-intelligent and that's why people didn't understand him.

Anonymous Old Rabbit's War January 23, 2013 9:13 AM  

VOX = HITLER!!!!

Anonymous Loki of Asgard January 23, 2013 9:15 AM  

For God's sakes, it doesn't take a halfwit to realise what he's done and what it could lead to.

Yes, the Dread Ilk are famous for their violently criminal activity. They are quite known for their disdain for human life and the rights of others.

Truly, madam, of all the people in the world, the Dread Ilk are to be most feared for their strange and cultlike devotion to their iron-fisted leader, whom they follow without question. This poor soul has much to fear from them.

Anonymous VD January 23, 2013 9:18 AM  

Ah this is great!

Let me entertain you....

Anonymous Josh January 23, 2013 9:18 AM  

Mrs Cat Lady Doctor Wife is certainly much more likely to be threatened by one of the vibrant Somalis living in her city than by any of the ilk. And she probably supported lettingthe Somalis llive there.

Anonymous VD January 23, 2013 9:19 AM  

Fine trolling, though. Quite fine, almost worthy of a trickster god.

High praise indeed!

Anonymous Loki of Asgard January 23, 2013 9:19 AM  

I was curious, so I had a look at some of her other reviews. To wit, in another of her one-star offerings:

"I simply can't understand how a female author can write about a woman FAKING rape."

Yes, we must not betray the Sisterhood.

Anonymous bub January 23, 2013 9:19 AM  

Farida Y. January 23, 2013 9:09 AM
For God's sakes, it doesn't take a halfwit to realise what he's done and what it could lead to.

Apparently it does.

Blogger Joshua_D January 23, 2013 9:20 AM  

Jason Arnopp January 23, 2013 7:34 AM
The answer to your second question above is "Oh dear God, yes".

matt_b January 23, 2013 7:41 AM
Oh dear God, you are kidding there, aren't you?

Jason Arnopp January 23, 2013 7:48 AM
Oh God, this is going to be one of those debates which is impossible to get out of, isn't it.

Farida Y. January 23, 2013 9:09 AM
For God's sakes, it doesn't take a halfwit to realise what he's done and what it could lead to.


I just wanted to post these again. Thanks to bub. I can see them rolling their eyes as they type hysterically and their hamsters spin for dear life.

Anonymous Starbuck January 23, 2013 9:21 AM  

Ah this is great! It's been months since I witnessed a live action breakdown on the internet. I liked the bit where he insisted that he was super-intelligent and that's why people didn't understand him. - ThornDavis

Do you understand what he is doing? He WAS rather straight up with why he is doing this.

One thing you need to know about VD. He doesn't tolerate frauds very well. Neither do a lot of people around here. If you cannot comprehend what he is doing and as to why. What does that say about your intelligence? After all, he did say that intelligent people would only see madness from what a super-intelligence is saying and doing. You kind of prove his point.
Why don't you ask Virginia to prove she read the book instead? Fraud is fraud. If she can't prove she read the book then to apologize. It isn't hard to be honest. It's hard not to make mistakes, but I don't think VD is beating up on mistakes. This is a flat out fruadulent opinion on something she doesn't even know about. It's not that hard really. Put up or apologize. Simple. She at least could get some self respect back if she admits to her wrong doing. But I am guessing that won't happen.

Anonymous dh January 23, 2013 9:22 AM  

The biggest problem with posting this type of information is that it puts the entire blog (obviously, your decision) in the cross hairs for a terms of service violation. A few times flagged and the automated semi-monkey will be too bored to research, and simply shut down the whole thing. Problem solved.

I sympathisize with the fraudulent review. It's certainly a problem, and one that is going to be more and more prevalent as time goes on. As Amazon gets more and more important in the world of publishing, it's reviews become higher and higher stakes. They may have to solve this problem sooner than later. It's a single point of failure for the whole publishing system.

Anonymous Josh January 23, 2013 9:24 AM  

How is it a terms of service violation, Agent dh?

Anonymous Thales January 23, 2013 9:24 AM  

This. Is. Awesome.

It is unbelievably awesome. /popcorn

Anonymous dh January 23, 2013 9:26 AM  

I have had a few authors email me about my comments. For the most part they wanted me to expand on what I talked about. Don't have the problem with it.
This is one of the best features of Amazon. I have reviewed some technical works that don't get a lot of reviews, and have had authors contact me to engage or clear up or take suggestions for a second edition.

The smaller the title the more likely an author will reach out to you. As in this case. Although I don't think the reviewer intended to be contacted in this manner... heh.

Anonymous Josh January 23, 2013 9:26 AM  

Anyone want to send Mrs Cat Lady some smelling salts from Amazon to help her get over her case of the vapors?

Note to the retard rabbit people: I said smelling salts, not bath salts. I'm not planning on turning her into a flesh eating zombie.

Anonymous Mike43 January 23, 2013 9:26 AM  

And yet read Virginia's Amazon profile; 3/11 reviews were one star. That's more than "not often." Now, to my chagrin, the others she one-starred were Rowling's Vacancy, and Gilliam's Gone Girl.

Not sure what that means other than she dislikes big name novelists.

Stupid cakeater. That what we called Edinaites when I lived in Minneapolis.

Anonymous Move Zig January 23, 2013 9:27 AM  

Old Wabbit War said..."VOX = HITLER!!!!"

"OMG!!!! The Shame! The Shame!" cried the widdle ol wabbit as he ran down internet street with poo stained toilet paper coming out of the back of his pants.

Anonymous dh January 23, 2013 9:28 AM  

How is it a terms of service violation, Agent dh?

I don't think it is. Although I haven't bothered to look them up. Typical TOS for sites is to prevent publishing actual private information. If it's on Google, it's not private, by definition. Being a Google property, Blogger has a larger than normal interest in promoting the open internet.

The problem is that the TOS reviews aren't exactly courts of law, where VD will get to rationally explicate his side of the issue.

What they are likely to see is that 3 or 4 people have flagged the site, they'll ready a few lines into the post, see that it's got some one elses personal information in it, and then the ban hammer comes out.

Asking someone who works for volume to get involved in the finer points of this matter is hopeful.

Anonymous Lulabelle January 23, 2013 9:28 AM  

"Rabbits gonna rabbit."

I think this is one of the funniest things you've ever said.

Anonymous Josh January 23, 2013 9:30 AM  

Stupid cakeater. That what we called Edinaites when I lived in Minneapolis.

Did you play peewee hockey for district five?

Anonymous toothy January 23, 2013 9:30 AM  

For the record, I will totally write a false review if you promise to show up at my house, Vox.

Bourbon, fruity drinks, and a gun shop at your disposal.

Anonymous RINO January 23, 2013 9:32 AM  

I'm not 100% sure what's going on here, but I have eliminated everything beyond two theories:

1) This is an elaborate demonstration regarding "rabbit people" behavior.
2) Vox woke up with higher levels of estrogen in his body than usual today.

Anonymous Josh January 23, 2013 9:34 AM  

It's more than likely 1, rino. Although I suppose 2 could be explained if he's switched to soy milk cappuccinos.

Anonymous Joe January 23, 2013 9:36 AM  

OK - serious question:

Do 1-star reviews really persuade you to NOT read books?

For me, I read only the 5-star and 1-star reviews. Typically, I will BUY a book based on the 1-stars.

Why? Because I can quickly tell I hate that person's values, and if they hate it, I know I'll love it.

Proof: Liberal Fascism - by Jonah Goldberg. Only bought and read it because of the pinkos' howls and 1-star rants.

Anonymous Loki of Asgard January 23, 2013 9:36 AM  

From the immediately prior post on this blog:

In my next post on the subject, I'll explain how the Rabbit People communicate, how one must communicate with them, and provide some examples of rabbitry both high and low.

Well now.

Anonymous Joe January 23, 2013 9:37 AM  

In other words, Vox ... some free marketing advice:

You should encourage and cultivate 1-star reviews from your haters ...it will help sales, I think.

Anonymous Tad January 23, 2013 9:40 AM  

@Vox Day

I have to presume you read this already:

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/21/business/a-casualty-on-the-battlefield-of-amazons-partisan-book-reviews.html

Anonymous Salt January 23, 2013 9:41 AM  

The burning question is, just how deep does the rabbit hole go?

Anonymous Faust January 23, 2013 9:41 AM  

I'll admit being rather surprised when I first saw this. It seemed to me that Vox was overreacting.

But let's think about what Mrs. Virginia K. Conterato has done here. This isn't about a bad review. There are a number of bad reviews of Throne of Bones up there. One, which seems to have vanished, said something to the effect of, "The book sucked, and the goblins at the beginning were way too wimpy." Reasonable people may disagree as to the merits of wimpy goblins, but there's no doubt that it's his right to say this, and he should be free from authorial harassment. But there's no obvious way to know that the book opens with a fight against easily-spooked goblins without actually reading it. He read it (at least to that point), he didn't like it, and now he wants to tell others about his opinion. All well and good. If Vox had posted that reviewer's name and address I would be the first to tell him to fuck off.

What Mrs. Virginia K. Conterato has done, assuming Vox's accusation is correct, is attempt to ruin a man's livelihood because she does not agree with his political opinions. This is contemptible, and she deserves everything she gets.

Vox-

Am I correct in assuming that if Mrs. Conterato were to send you a picture of her copy of the book, which she received for a Christmas present from a friend who thought she would enjoy an epic fantasy novel, you would not only take down her address but issue a full apology?

Anonymous RINO January 23, 2013 9:45 AM  

Also, the real crime here is that the "freakshow" tag is missing from this post.

Anonymous OneFiver January 23, 2013 9:45 AM  

This is so hilariously awesome. I find the hypocritical bleating wildly entertaining.

Is Ms Virginia aware of what's going on? One can only hope...

Blogger Vidad January 23, 2013 9:53 AM  

G. Martin: What's up with you self published (yes, MLP is close enough) authors? Grow a thick skin and stop being such a baby about a bad review. The time you spent putting this attack post together makes you look small, unprofessional, and pathetic. I will never buy one of your books, and I'm going to spread this post of your around warning other to stay away from your books.

You're a child, and you should be ashamed of yourself.

Starbuck: Well there is a sort of refusal to have sex with VD. It had to come sooner or later.

And from George Martin, no less! I'd be honored.

Anonymous Move Zig January 23, 2013 9:57 AM  

Faust said..."Am I correct in assuming that if Mrs. Conterato were to send you a picture of her copy of the book, which she received for a Christmas present from a friend who thought she would enjoy an epic fantasy novel, you would not only take down her address but issue a full apology?"

How could he ever believe this scenario. It's like one of Vox's friends sending him a book by Hillary Clinton because they thought he would enjoy a good political book. LMAO!
It would be more likely that this would be an attempt of an escape from the corner she painted herself into.

Anonymous Signe January 23, 2013 9:58 AM  

@ Tad

Looks like words are actually as damaging as guns, because guns can't cause books to never be read.

So, in light of this, do you still hold the position that people shouldn't have to register their free-speech exercises in advance and have a waiting period?

And I didn't see if you answered "Why not?" on the previous "no". Pardon me if you did.

Anonymous Josh January 23, 2013 9:59 AM  

It's like one of Vox's friends sending him a book by Hillary Clinton because they thought he would enjoy a good political book. LMAO!

Okay, for the last time, we only did that because all three of the tranny strippers we were trying to book for him flaked out.

Anonymous Azimus January 23, 2013 10:01 AM  

Methinks Mr Contato is on her way to the Edina public library now, desperately hoping TOB is on the shelf...

Anonymous JartStar January 23, 2013 10:02 AM  

@Tad

I have to presume you read this already:

Agree or disagree with Vox's methods, this is the battle he is fighting. By agitating Scalzi and his blog's readership they could certainly give bad reviews to his book by the dozen or maybe even the hundreds.

If his rabbit theory holds true this one example should be enough to scare the rest back to their warrens.

Anonymous Azimus January 23, 2013 10:03 AM  

Ah... curiously, the Hennepin County System does have Return of the Great Depression and The Irrational Atheist (makes sense, native author), but not TOB. Too bad for Mrs Contralto.

Anonymous DJ January 23, 2013 10:12 AM  

I really wish that Amazon would only allow reviews from "Verified Purchases" from Amazon.

That would solve this nonsense immediately, as I doubt most of the trolls would want to actually spend money.

Conterato started this. Don't start a fight and then be surprised that someone hits you in the head with a baseball bat.

Anonymous VD January 23, 2013 10:15 AM  

Am I correct in assuming that if Mrs. Conterato were to send you a picture of her copy of the book, which she received for a Christmas present from a friend who thought she would enjoy an epic fantasy novel, you would not only take down her address but issue a full apology?

No. I would require the name and address of her friend to compare against the list of hardcover purchasers as well, as well as a statement from the friend. But yes, if she can conclusively prove that she actually had the hardcover in her possession at least one week prior to the review being posted, I would remove the address from this post and issue a full apology.

Anonymous Josh January 23, 2013 10:16 AM  

Scalzi, on HE WHO MUST NOT BE NAMED:

He’s not being attacked, he’s being accurately described. He’s not being named because it’s not necessary, and because I don’t want his name here, because he’s a racist sexist homophobic dipshit.

Seriously, are these people still in high school?

Anonymous The other skeptic January 23, 2013 10:18 AM  

MO bill requiring public school parents if they own a gun

(Unfortunately has a stupid video.)

Another nail in the coffin of public schools?

Anonymous Old Rabbit's War January 23, 2013 10:22 AM  

"racist sexist homophobic"

YOU FORGOT FASCIST NAZI POO-POO-HEAD!

Anonymous Koanic January 23, 2013 10:22 AM  

"I see that you have three whole reviews for "Beast In The Basement" published 21 Sep 2012. Five-star average too, very good."

Ah, but they outnumber us on # and depravity of rabbits. The Ilk would be handicapped by conscience in such a contest.

Anonymous VD January 23, 2013 10:27 AM  

Ah, but they outnumber us on # and depravity of rabbits. The Ilk would be handicapped by conscience in such a contest.

Koanic, I think we were talking creative book reviews, not hunting them down one by one.

Now, repeat after me. This is not The Following. This is not The Following.

And no, Nate, you can't just skin them either.

Anonymous allyn71 January 23, 2013 10:29 AM  

"What is the over/under on whether the lady eventually ends up whoring in Nevada?"

Zen0, I will be sending you the bill for a replacement to my now inoperable and coffee soaked (via nose transfusion) keyboard. Well Done.

Blogger Vidad January 23, 2013 10:29 AM  

"we only did that because all three of the tranny strippers we were trying to book for him flaked out."

That's because they were afraid Vox would out them and they'd lose their jobs as public school teachers.

Anonymous VD January 23, 2013 10:30 AM  

You should encourage and cultivate 1-star reviews from your haters ...it will help sales, I think.

Worked for TIA....

Well now.

Admit it, I'm good. Hop, little rabbits, HOP!

Although I haven't bothered to look them up. Typical TOS for sites is to prevent publishing actual private information. If it's on Google, it's not private, by definition.

Good point. I'll link it to Google.

Anonymous Cinco January 23, 2013 10:31 AM  

This. Thread. Is. Comedy. Gold...

Anonymous buzzcut January 23, 2013 10:32 AM  

What gauge are you using? And do you have enough freezer space?

Anonymous The other skeptic January 23, 2013 10:38 AM  


For God's sakes, it doesn't take a halfwit to realise what he's done and what it could lead to.


OMG, someone might go and steal her copy of ToB

Anonymous We're Not Worthy! January 23, 2013 10:42 AM  

I think this cements VD as the King of the AWCA's.
And as King, I see him sitting on a throne of (rabbit) bones...

Anonymous Koanic January 23, 2013 10:45 AM  

Surely The Following isn't any good. I couldn't get past the weak male lead and Strong Independent Woman of Color.

Blogger Sleepy January 23, 2013 10:47 AM  

Maybe some of the vets can clarify something for me. Would all the accusations levied at Vox as being petty, overreacting, etc., be correctly identified as projection? I imagine that when rabbit people fight over anything, it's small-minded spite at work, and rabbits can't imagine any kind of alternative. Here, if there's an attack at all, it's more like the way a cat attacks a bug. More for fun than over hurt feelings.

Kind of like the way atheists can't think of obedience outside of slavishness, as they're unfamiliar with love.

Anonymous Koanic January 23, 2013 10:47 AM  

It just occurred to me that the rabbits may have a point, in that they are all equally shoddy, and there's little difference between their males and females.

Anonymous Josh January 23, 2013 10:50 AM  

Maybe some of the vets can clarify something for me. Would all the accusations levied at Vox as being petty, overreacting, etc., be correctly identified as projection?

Yes

Anonymous allyn71 January 23, 2013 10:51 AM  

This is redemption for the Asher and Tad debacle yesterday. Funniest thing I have seen in a long time.

The unanswered question is who left the rabbit cage open last night. Someone is guilty, just man up and confess. They all didn't just magically appear.

I open Vox this morning and all I see are rabbits everywhere.

Anonymous Noah B. January 23, 2013 10:52 AM  

"What is the over/under on whether the lady eventually ends up whoring in Nevada?"

There's no pic in the Amazon profile. We're kind of flying blind here.

Anonymous Rantor January 23, 2013 10:53 AM  

Brilliant AWCA undertaking in defense of truth and integrity...

Wangsty Wabbits popping up all over the place.

Must reuturn to work

Anonymous VD January 23, 2013 10:54 AM  

I have to presume you read this already

No, I didn't. I did see how all the Jordan fans were giving one stars to the final book in the series that Sanderson finished, however. Not that I would likely disagree with them, being a confirmed Jordan-hater, except that they were doing it on the basis of the Kindle version not being available.

I don't think attack reviews actually hurt anything. It certainly didn't hurt TIA.

Blogger Vidad January 23, 2013 10:56 AM  

Koanic: "It just occurred to me that the rabbits may have a point, in that they are all equally shoddy, and there's little difference between their males and females."

Rabbits are Cro-mags, then!

Anonymous Daniel January 23, 2013 10:57 AM  

I used to live in an apartment in Edina right next to Centennial Lakes Park, so very clearly the "poor" part of town (i.e. too close to the high-end service industries, like the BMW dealership), but still a true Edina address. It was the first suburb I lived in after moving to the TC, and it was my only option on a short-notice move. My point is I had absolutely no idea that I had just upgraded my status.

But upgrade (both to sighs of surprise and looks of derision) I did. I had no clue at first why absolutely everyone talked to me like they did until I realized it was my zip code that preceded me.

So funny that a fraudster would co-opt oneself into that town, as if the entire planet is going to admire her for pretending to live in a town that sounds like a medical condition. I wonder if her home has a sticker on it that says "My other hutch is a Mercedes."

Blogger Positive Dennis January 23, 2013 10:58 AM  

It seems likely that she did not read the book, but it can not be ruled out. I am amazed by the level of fraud on the Internet, even, or maybe especially, in Christian circles. Looking at the other books she reviewed, this book seems out of place. One point in her favor, she did not like the new Rowling book.

Anonymous Wendy January 23, 2013 10:59 AM  

All this talk of rabbits makes me think of the scene from Slapshot where the fans are singing some song in a hoppy conga line.

Blogger Joshua_D January 23, 2013 11:04 AM  

We're Not Worthy! January 23, 2013 10:42 AM

And as King, I see him sitting on a throne of (rabbit) bones...


That's a lot of rabbits.

Anonymous patrick kelly January 23, 2013 11:05 AM  

Woah, lmao....

Vox describes how rabbit people behave and react to life around them

Rabbit people show up on cue exactly as Vox described.

Hilarity ensues.

Now that's entertainment. This is what keeps me coming back to hang out with the dread ilk. And posts about whiskey, and guns.......mmmmmmm.......guns......

Anonymous Feh January 23, 2013 11:05 AM  

For God's sakes, it doesn't take a halfwit to realise what he's done and what it could lead to.

Principally, it leads to candy-asses like Farida Y. furiously white knighting for her.

OK - serious question:

Do 1-star reviews really persuade you to NOT read books?


Sometimes. If they seem genuine and thoughtful, rather than fraudulent or "I hated the author's politics" tirades.

A lot of 1-star reviews are, hilariously, by people whining that the Kindle edition "costs too much".

I really wish that Amazon would only allow reviews from "Verified Purchases" from Amazon.

Nah. I often review books I got from the library, especially if they are bad and not worth reading.

Anonymous bbtp January 23, 2013 11:06 AM  

This is the funniest post + comment thread ever.

I'm in the "VD knows what he's doing" camp; every so often, a fake reviewer must be singled out pour encourager les autres. Clearly VD's Latin scholarship extends to the phrase ad terrorem.

-bbtp

Anonymous VD January 23, 2013 11:06 AM  

What they are likely to see is that 3 or 4 people have flagged the site, they'll ready a few lines into the post, see that it's got some one elses personal information in it, and then the ban hammer comes out.

I assume everyone is happy now that the reviewer's address is not displayed on the site? Excellent!

Real authors don't have the *time* to attack individual negatives reviews - simply because they wouldn't have the *time* to respond to their critics. You go on personal jihads against crazy old ladies who live in cities in states no one gives a damn about.

Right, that's why it takes them twice as long to write book half the length of my most recent one.

I'm going to have to read BONING THE THRONE now, though. Can I get a review copy?

Seriously, you don't have five bucks?

Anonymous allyn71 January 23, 2013 11:06 AM  

A question for those that have a better understanding of rabbit behavior.

Do rabbit folk go blind during their rage and lose the ability for reading cognitive recognition?

This quesiton is a direct result of observing todays acts.

Vox claims "For my next trick I will make the rabbits appear and then dance and hop on one foot".

On command the rabbits appear, raging at Vox for being a Nazi, homophobic, poopy head that is not smarter than them. What they seem to miss is they are doing this while dancing and hopping on one foot.

If not blind rage that disables the ability to read and comprehend for the rabbit folks what is the cause of this?

Thanks for the classic example of rabbit behavior. Adding the illustrations helped explain your previous narratives on the subject.

Anonymous Daniel January 23, 2013 11:06 AM  

Oh, nice Slapshot reference, Wendy.

I also suddenly have lost all faith that she actually ever even read that wall calendar that she gave 5 stars to, and I love koala bears! Who can I believe in now? Super Elmo where are you?

Anonymous Scott Bowman January 23, 2013 11:07 AM  

The review may or may not be fake, and the reviewer may or may not have an agenda against you. But why oh why are you so thin-skinned about it? Don't you know how this makes you look outside your small circle of myrmidons? For the life of me I can't understand why authors draw attention to poor reviews of their books, but they can't seem to resist. If you haven't noticed, pretty much every item at Amazon has at least one review like the one above. Relax. Go get a massage. Have a drink. Let it roll off your back. Be big, not small.

Anonymous Stilicho January 23, 2013 11:08 AM  

And no, Nate, you can't just skin them either.

Perhaps they should be subjected to an Orwellian "Two minutes of Nate"

Anonymous patrick kelly January 23, 2013 11:11 AM  

"Rabbits gonna rabbit."

ssspththpspspptpthhthththththpttt.........!!

Now that's the coffee spewing one liner of the week.

Anonymous Daniel January 23, 2013 11:13 AM  

Scott Bowman
But why oh why are you so thin-skinned about it?

Stop whining Scott, it is a joke! I don't know where you come from, but in my neck of the backwoods, we call this high comedy. If you haven't figured it out by now, you may want to go to the doctor and get one of those blue parking passes. You were born without a funny bone.

Blogger Conan the Cimmerian, King of Aquilonia January 23, 2013 11:13 AM  

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Anonymous patrick kelly January 23, 2013 11:15 AM  

Vox, you thin skinned, overly sensitive, mean, racist, misogynist, homophobic, bigot.

Did they make you cry yet?

I luv u man.

Anonymous Daniel January 23, 2013 11:15 AM  

The sequel to this post should be titled A Throne of Funny Bones.

Anonymous VD January 23, 2013 11:15 AM  

But why oh why are you so thin-skinned about it? Don't you know how this makes you look outside your small circle of myrmidons?

I'm not. Yes. A question for you. Do you think I care how it looks to a little school of fish swimming in the Pacific Ocean? If you can understand that, then why do you assume I care how it looks to you or anyone else?

Anonymous Tad January 23, 2013 11:18 AM  

@Vox Day

I don't think attack reviews actually hurt anything. It certainly didn't hurt TIA.

I disagree. The power of crowd sourced reviews has become immense in the consumer arena. A series of bad reviews of restaurants, for example, can be devastating. Yelp and TripAdvisor are monumentally powerful at this point and are ripe with corruption. The corruption comes not only from competitors and accounts posting self serving reviews, but "attack reviews" are notoriously difficult to stop if well coordinated.

Where "art" is concerned (books, film, music, etc), I simple won't trust the crowd. I always prefer the educated critic.

Anonymous Thales January 23, 2013 11:23 AM  

The sequel to this post should be titled A Throne of Funny Bones.

Bright Lights, Big Hrududu.

Anonymous dh January 23, 2013 11:23 AM  

Good point. I'll link it to Google.

I assume everyone is happy now that the reviewer's address is not displayed on the site? Excellent!

This is really the work of an award winning cruelty artist. Never underestimate the efficacy of the losing side working the refs for a favorable outcome. It doesn't matter if it's 5-year girls soceer league, Blogger, or Congress..

Anonymous Scott Bowman January 23, 2013 11:24 AM  

I'm not. Yes. A question for you. Do you think I care how it looks to a little school of fish swimming in the Pacific Ocean? If you can understand that, then why do you assume I care how it looks to you or anyone else?

Well, maybe because you wrote a long post about it?

Anonymous bbtp January 23, 2013 11:27 AM  

PSA to rabbits:

The point of this post isn't to whine about a bad review. Evidence: VD has tons of bad reviews that he doesn't whine about, much less pursue the authors of. Moreover, this particular review isn't especially bad by the standards of "I H8 U" reviews.

The point is to single out and humiliate some idiot who was dumb enough to sign her obviously fake review with her real name at the instigation, perhaps inadvertent, of someone who told her that VD was a Very Bad Guy who, she concluded on that basis, deserved Very Bad Reviews.

She was the target of choice not because her review was particularly offending to VD but because she can be easily humiliated since VD can (1) establish her RL identity and (2) prove that she didn't read the book (recall that she reviewed the hardcover and those were mailed directly to customers). This is why he's picking on her, not on people with typical Amazon handles like "CoolDude420" or "garyfromNC" or "IceQueenOfLogic" (note that I made these up) or reviewers who live in NYC (where you could always say, "No, I'm not THAT Edgar Q. Xuereb III, there are 59 of us in the phone book").

Since you now understand what's actually going on, please frame your responses appropriately so that you don't look like you're missing the point. TIA

-bbtp

Blogger Conan the Cimmerian, King of Aquilonia January 23, 2013 11:27 AM  

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OpenID bluelittlegirl January 23, 2013 11:34 AM  

I was directed here by my twitter feed. Your points may very well be valid, and you get major points for referring to Peter and hrududu, but this doesn't change the fact that you responded to a review, which really has nothing to do with you, not in the scheme of things. It says something about you that makes your erudite commentary a moot point, in my view. I had not yet read any of your books, and I will not as a result.
Now, I don't imagine that you care, and you really shouldn't care; I mean, I am just one person who has enough of an opinion of herself to comment here.
I wish you the best of luck; take care. Alexandra

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Anonymous Wendy January 23, 2013 11:38 AM  

...but this doesn't change the fact that you responded to a review, which really has nothing to do with you, not in the scheme of things.

A likely fraudulent review of his book has nothing to do with him?

Anonymous Daniel January 23, 2013 11:39 AM  

Alexandra (bluelittlegirl) - Hey, there! Saw you the other day running naked in subzero temps after the ice cream truck but your angina must have been acting up or something.

But don't worry, my obvious lies have nothing to do with you, not in the scheme of things.

Thanks for the drive-by, though!

Anonymous buzzcut January 23, 2013 11:39 AM  

I've seen The Exorcist 167 times, and it KEEPS GETTING FUNNIER EVERY TIME I SEE IT!

Anonymous RINO January 23, 2013 11:43 AM  

I had not yet read any of your books, and I will not as a result.

Do you feel the exclusion, Vox? Do you feel the burn?

Anonymous VD January 23, 2013 11:45 AM  

I disagree. The power of crowd sourced reviews has become immense in the consumer arena. A series of bad reviews of restaurants, for example, can be devastating.

Good point. I was only considering the matter of books. The main problem for books is that no one has heard of them, so the more pointing and shrieking, the better. For restaurants and other things, yes, I think you are correct.

I had not yet read any of your books, and I will not as a result.

So you're not going to read a book you hadn't heard of prior to this. Thank you for informing me. I shall endeavor to continue to smile through the tears. Best of luck to you as well.

Well, maybe because you wrote a long post about it?

There are presently 11,282 posts on this blog. Many of them are much longer than this one. Do you care to try revisiting your conclusion or are you going to stand pat on that one? Keep in mind that I once spent a month on the probabilities of the Japanese invasion of Pearl Harbor. One medium-length post doesn't even count as a warm-up in these parts.

Anonymous Russell January 23, 2013 11:45 AM  

Vox is doing science, live on the internets.

Why do rabbits hate science so much?

Anonymous Stickwick January 23, 2013 11:46 AM  

I don't think attack reviews actually hurt anything.

They probably don't, at least with customers who aren't morons.

When I use Amazon reviews to make a decision about a book purchase, I look at a few of the most detailed 5- and 4-star reviews, and then for the flip side I look at the most detailed 3- and 2-star reviews. Most honest negative reviews are 3 or 2 stars, and they are far more devastating than 1-star reviews -- there are several books I have decided not to purchase based on articulate and detailed 3-star reviews. I have never decided against purchasing a book on the basis of 1-star reviews, which are almost certainly either: a) attack "reviews" from people with an axe to grind*; or b) written by halfwits who feel the need to issue the almighty stamp of disapproval for failing to meet their expectations in any way.

* This sometimes has the opposite effect, as noted by Vox and others. If a book elicits that strong of a reaction, there's a better-than-average chance it's worth reading.

Anonymous VD January 23, 2013 11:47 AM  

This is really the work of an award winning cruelty artist. Never underestimate the efficacy of the losing side working the refs for a favorable outcome.

Why, thank you, dh. You're too kind. And you are absolutely correct, I was just thinking that I really need to revise the list of Rabbit Weapons, as I omitted "run to Daddy", or as you put it, "working the refs".

Anonymous Signe January 23, 2013 11:47 AM  

His Lordship commands another song. Blame him.


Your tune: Here.

You remind me of the hare
What hare? the hare with the power
What power? power of review
She view? We view
View what? the review by the hare

I saw Farida,
crying hard as he could cry
What could I do?
My Google search had gone
And left Farida blue
Nobody knew:

CHORUS
What kind of bunny bait to use?
Google trails
For tweakin' their tails
They find it frightnin'

Then Vox said
Dance, rabbits dance
Dance, rabbits dance
Put that rabbit shame on me
Jump, rabbits jump
Jump, rabbits jump
Put that frantic hump on me
Slap that Scalzi, make him squee

I saw ol' Jason,
trying hard as rabbits try
What could I do?
Virginia Kay had gone
And left a one-star review
Ev'r'body knew

CHORUS

What kind of bunny bait to use?
Not too much
Will stir up the hutch
They find it frightnin'

Then Vox said
Dance, rabbits dance
Dance, rabbits dance
Put that rabbit shame on me
Jump, rabbits jump
Jump, rabbits jump
Put that frantic hump on me
Slap that Scalzi, make him squee


You remind me of Miss Kay
What Kay? the Kay with the power
What power? power of review
She view? We view
View what? the review by Miss Kay

Dance, rabbits dance, ooh ooh ooh
Dance rabbits, dance rabbits, ooh ooh ooh
Dance rabbits...

Blogger El Borak January 23, 2013 11:50 AM  

I had not yet read any of your books, and I will not as a result.

You forgot to threaten to withhold sex as well. That's generally a very effective approach.

Anonymous Peter Garstig January 23, 2013 11:52 AM  

Oh, how I wish that the ones who get it would stay silent and not spoil the comedy.

Anonymous Daniel January 23, 2013 11:52 AM  

The local tires and taxidermy guy has mounted (to plaques, like a prize buck) rats heads and chipmunks to diminutive boards as a joke for friends. Vox needs a rabbit on his.

It could be captioned: "Yes, Virginia, there is a satan Vox."

Anonymous Old Rabbit's War January 23, 2013 11:57 AM  

I WILL NEVER BUY THE BOOK I NEVER INTENDED TO BUY IN THE FIRST PLACE!!!

Blogger Conan the Cimmerian, King of Aquilonia January 23, 2013 11:58 AM  

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Blogger RobertT January 23, 2013 11:58 AM  

These attacks are an obvious attempt to diminish book sales, and have a direct impact on VD's livelihood. If you were attacked publicly at your job or business for turning out shoddy work, you wouldn't brush it off lightly either.

Anonymous Lemmenkainen January 23, 2013 11:58 AM  

> Do you know how much risk her life could be in right now?

Perhaps she should own a firearm?

Anonymous AmyJ January 23, 2013 11:59 AM  

"I was directed here by my twitter feed"

My guess is it was the tweet from the fem-tard cat lady - anyone following her would be too focused on the fact that Tolkien "doesn't like women", so the chances of those followers actually reading TOB was zero anyway. What a waste.

Anonymous bbtp January 23, 2013 11:59 AM  

Oh, how I wish that the ones who get it would stay silent and not spoil the comedy.

Don't worry, we're not spoiling anything. The rabbit incursion will continue apace. I mean, they aren't even reading VD's OP.

From my POV, it's actually funnier: the rabbit trap is explained in the comment thread, but the rabbits charge ahead anyhow...

-bbtp

Anonymous Loki of Asgard January 23, 2013 11:59 AM  

Oh, how I wish that the ones who get it would stay silent and not spoil the comedy.

Ah, but half the humour is that the rabbits do not notice.

Anonymous Feh January 23, 2013 12:00 PM  

Most honest negative reviews are 3 or 2 stars, and they are far more devastating than 1-star reviews -- there are several books I have decided not to purchase based on articulate and detailed 3-star reviews.

A lot of times when I see a negative 3 star review I wonder why they even gave it 3 stars instead of one. One star has to mean something, after all.

To me, 3 stars should be for something I didn't love but didn't hate. Those are the hardest books to review! Usually I give three stars to something that's well written but doesn't have anything really new to say.

Anonymous Daniel January 23, 2013 12:01 PM  

"I was directed here by my feed" should be a feminist slogan.

Anonymous . January 23, 2013 12:03 PM  

"I was directed here by the rest of the rabbit warren" is more like it.

Blogger El Borak January 23, 2013 12:04 PM  

Please, please be careful, Ilk.

Anonymous Rantor January 23, 2013 12:09 PM  

Love the link...

Anonymous Peter Garstig January 23, 2013 12:10 PM  

Ah, but half the humour is that the rabbits do not notice.

Only the helplessly stupid, and they don't amuse me as much. There _are_ rabbits running for the holes when they smell predators, and it's those I enjoy the most.

Anonymous Stickwick January 23, 2013 12:10 PM  

Now, I don't imagine that you care ...

She means this as an accusation, not as an objective assessment. Like the wife who says "you don't care" to the husband who has committed some infraction and yet inexplicably and unforgivably fails to see why it's the end of the world.

... and you really shouldn't care; I mean, I am just one person who has enough of an opinion of herself to comment here.

Extra bonus points for "it's all about me." Vox doesn't care, even though he should, because she has the sense of self-worth to issue her opinion about this.

Blogger JDC January 23, 2013 12:16 PM  

And St. Theodorus of Edina raised the hand grenade up on high saying, "O LORD, bless this Thy hand grenade that with it Thou mayest blow Thine enemies to tiny bits, in Thy mercy." And the LORD did grin and the people did feast upon the rabbits and the trolls and the white knights and the panty wadders and monocle droppers and the hamster wheelers and the bloated gammas and the teenage girls trapped in the doughy bodies of middle aged men and the large....

Anonymous Koanic January 23, 2013 12:16 PM  

Vox

Fake eponymous reviewer

Rrrraaah!

Hahahaha

Scalzi

Scalzi's self image

Whatever's average commenter

Whatever commentariat self image

Wait for it...

Bait taken

...Ilk bites are nasty.

Anonymous jay c January 23, 2013 12:18 PM  

I admit. I'm amused.

Blogger Vidad January 23, 2013 12:21 PM  

ATOB made me finally buy Summa Elvetica. I need to write a new review.

ATOB = * out of *****

"A Throne of Bones made me so angry because I hate spending money and now I have to buy the rest of the series when it comes out. I also was forced to buy Summa Elvetica because I suddenly had an overwhelming desire for more stories of Amorr. Damn you, Day. I'm already broke. ONE STAR. (BTW, I would give this 0 stars but Amazon won't let me!!!)"

Blogger Joshua_D January 23, 2013 12:22 PM  

Daniel January 23, 2013 12:01 PM

"I was directed here by my feed" should be a feminist slogan.


Nice. I also suggest, "I was directed here by my hamster."

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