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Saturday, January 26, 2013

And you thought Raidess fans were hard

They've got nothing on Egyptian soccer fans.  And by nothing, I mean NOTHING:
Twenty-one men were sentenced to hang over the riot after a game in the city of Port Said between the local club, Al-Masry, and Al-Ahly of Cairo, in which 74 died last February. Visiting supporters were stabbed, crushed and in some cases thrown from the terraces in what seemed from live television pictures to be a premeditated assault.

Al-Ahly supporters and relatives of the dead celebrated the verdict when it was read out in the Cairo court to which the case had been moved.

But in Port Said relatives of the defendants tried to storm the prison where they were being held. Two policemen were shot dead in the melee before the authorities fought back. By late afternoon, local health authorities said a total of 27 people had died, including two football players, more than had been sentenced in the first place.
A real tragedy.  I can only conclude Egypt does not have sufficient gun control.

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Anonymous castricv January 26, 2013 1:44 PM  

Honestly, only pc bullshat and FIFA's never ending need to be loved by third world pygmies keeps whole federations from being banned. In the 80's the biggest club in the world Liverpool was banned for 5 YEARS from any European competition over Hooliganism charges and a bad display of violence in Italy. It was deserved. In Egypt, Serbia, etc. people are literally attacking players and killing fans and yet nothing.
Oh well we don't think they can behave so we won't hold them to the same standard. It is sickening.

If a country cannot at least refrain from killing each other over a game, then they do not deserve the beautiful game.

Anonymous Red Comet January 26, 2013 1:48 PM  

Now, now, trying to tie this into gun control is just an attempt to draw attention away from how this is somehow all whitey's fault.

Anonymous castricv January 26, 2013 1:52 PM  

Continuing my last point, just think how quick the silliness would stop in Mexico and the like if FIFA dangled a year or more ban over their national team, etc. Maybe then they would stop hurling piss on opposing players and fans. All one needs to do is youtube soccer craziness and the level of violence is staggering.

Blogger Nate January 26, 2013 1:55 PM  

savages.

Blogger Res Ipsa January 26, 2013 2:13 PM  

"I can only conclude Egypt does not have sufficient gun control."

I can only conclude that Islam is a religion of peace on earth and good will to men. A society based on its teachings would never suffer the mindless brutality so often found in the west.

Anonymous David of One January 26, 2013 2:18 PM  

What is it about soccer/soccer fans that seems to transcend geographics and culture to account for the violence? Maybe it is just the culture of soccer now.

Thinking about this further it doesn't seem to matter if it is a 3rd world country or some promient European nation.

If you change the sport the behavior seems to disappear. I suppose some 3rd world countries would still be violent even if were baseball ... frisbee ... whatever.

Consider somehthing like, making it up, the World Arab Baseball International Teams (WABIT). Beheadings with knives, swords and saws. Removing limbs. The 100 virgin rape. Feeding one another to the dogs ...

Anonymous Salt January 26, 2013 2:38 PM  

Is that the final score? 21-27? Or is it 74-21 with 27 in overtime?

Anonymous fnn January 26, 2013 2:41 PM  

Egypt under European rule:

"Egypt a century ago, under the firm and inspired hand of Lord Cromer, was a boomtown, a miracle and a paradise. A multicultural paradise, even, with Frenchmen and Brits and Greeks and Jews and Turks and Armenians - all of whom the Century of Fear would later send fleeing with a single suitcase. But as late as the '30s "Alex" was a city of the civilized world - a place where boho trustafarians, like Lawrence Durrell, would move as if to Prague, just because it was a fun cool cheap place to live. Architecture from this period can still be seen, chipped and obscured by smoke, behind the howling mobs and growling tanks in your YouTube clip."
(...)

Anonymous A Jew in my Soup January 26, 2013 2:45 PM  

Surely Mossad must have had something to do with this.

Anonymous jm January 26, 2013 2:49 PM  

Let's import large numbers of these fans to the U.S. What could go wrong?

Anonymous Anonymous January 26, 2013 2:58 PM  

I'm pretty sure that Hari Seldon predicted this. You too, Paul Krugman.

Anonymous Move Zig January 26, 2013 2:58 PM  

I thought that this clip from Youtube is somewhat on topic to Vox's post..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jagvYIMJyzU
It's from 2009. Cops beating on fan and then other fans turn on cops.

Anonymous CitizenOutkast January 26, 2013 3:14 PM  

If a country cannot at least refrain from killing each other over a game, then they do not deserve the beautiful game.

Or for that matter, anything good.

Anonymous Cinco January 26, 2013 3:20 PM  

Raidess? I didn't get that for about 3 seconds! Then I got it. And I laughed...

Anonymous A Visitor January 26, 2013 3:26 PM  

What is it about soccer/soccer fans that seems to transcend geographics and culture to account for the violence? Maybe it is just the culture of soccer now.

I remember going to a few soccer games when I was abroad; they were high scoring games (6-3, 5-2), which helped aid my American bloodlust for high level, actually interesting, sports competition. I never have gotten why the violence occurs at soccer games, be they in the U.K or a 3rd world hell hole.

Looking at our own series of sports related violence in the U.S. over the years, all I have to say to those that start the violence: are you all that pathetic? Are you truly that much of a loser that watching your team lose, while painful (I say this having seen my teams take horrible hits), causes you to riot and destroy property and put peoples' lives in danger? There's always next season. Grow up.

Let's import large numbers of these fans to the U.S. What could go wrong? Our society could mirror theirs...shhh, we're not supposed to know that!

Anonymous A Visitor January 26, 2013 3:27 PM  

I shouldn't have said causes you to riot. I should have said gives you the excuse.

Anonymous Cinco January 26, 2013 3:38 PM  

@ A visitor

"I remember going to a few soccer games when I was abroad; they were high scoring games (6-3, 5-2), which helped aid my American bloodlust for high level, actually interesting, sports competition. I never have gotten why the violence occurs at soccer games, be they in the U.K or a 3rd world hell hole."

Because growing up, it is all they love. It is the only sport they can afford to play because all it takes is a ball. They become so enamored with the game that it becomes their passion. It reminds them of their child hood, and of a time when all they had were dreams. To see their team lose brings them back to reality, a reality they despise.

I however grew up around the Cubs, so all I know is losing.

Anonymous cheddarman January 26, 2013 4:05 PM  

gotta love that 3rd world vibrancy...it is so dynamic, compared to my own white bread culture

sincerely

cheddarman

Blogger Anthony January 26, 2013 4:07 PM  

This riot is not about football. A little bit of rioting after a big game is normal. However, rioting and killing on this scale is not normal. Of course, nobody in the media (not even al-Jazeera) will tell you why Port Said is particularly upset with the central government ("Cairo") - whether it's a regional hostility, or that just there are more opponents of the current regime in Port Said than elsewhere.

If the United States were particularly close to a civil war (or were in the middle of a lull in one), I could easily see this happening to the Redskins or the Washington Wizards when playing in Texas.

Anonymous kh123 January 26, 2013 4:34 PM  

Despite the similarities, Raiders Nation fans aren't Gayrab hooligans. Besides the neglected pitbulls in the backyard and their litter of kids dressed up to look like Vin Diesel douchebags, they have some sense of civility. Hence the Raider doormats on the back porch buried underneath a pile of used lightbulbs.

Blogger TontoBubbaGoldstein January 26, 2013 4:54 PM  

Raidess? I didn't get that for about 3 seconds! Then I got it. And I laughed...

Somewhere, Al Davis is smiling.

And Tim Brown is saying that he didn't say that Bill Callahan "sabotaged" the Raiders in the 2003 Super Bowl. But he did.

Anonymous Gx1080 January 26, 2013 5:06 PM  

The game looks like an excuse, but I don't expect Al'Jazeera or the Lamestream Media to say that people are not being happy living under The Religion of Peace (tm).

Blogger Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus January 26, 2013 5:24 PM  

Frith on a stick, are you kidding me?

Anonymous zen0 January 26, 2013 5:31 PM  

The game looks like an excuse, but I don't expect Al'Jazeera or the Lamestream Media to say that people are not being happy living under The Religion of Peace (tm).

Actually, the linked article provides some background:

The verdicts in the football trial could not have come at a worse time. The case was heavily political - the fan base of Al-Ahly, known as the Al-Ahly Ultras, came out in force to join in the anti-Mubarak uprising, and many supporters allege the riot in Port Said was organised as a revenge attack by Mubarak-era officials, including some close to the club’s management.

Anonymous David of One January 26, 2013 6:34 PM  

I am disappointed in myself for not reading to the very end of the cited article. I got 2/3 of the way down and stopped.

This incident has nearly nothing to do with Soccer.

But due to zenO's attention to detail it is very much about a people paying a price for resisting a worse tyranny, a rigged election and a fight for freedom ... as evidenced by the paragraphs prior to zenO's ...

"In a worrying development, rioters included young men dressed in black and wearing masks who identified themselves as the Black Mask Bloc, a new group apparently modelled on anarchist factions in 1970s Europe and dedicated to attacking the authorities.

“We had to appear officially to fight against the regime of the fascist tyrants, the Muslim Brotherhood and its military wing,” a launch video posted online said."

Anonymous scoobius dubious January 26, 2013 6:49 PM  

74 + 21 + 27 dead third-world grease-blobs?

ZOMBIE (into police radio): Send more Egyptian soccer games.

Anonymous David of One January 26, 2013 6:52 PM  

Vox and Et al.,

Please forgive the OT but this is interesting ... I would not be surprised if Vox and others have already read some of this. Vox very well may have written about aspects of this in previous posts ...

http://www.charlesdarwinresearch.org/Race_Evolution_Behavior.pdf

http://www.smith.edu/philosophy/Taboo55.html

Anonymous Daniel January 26, 2013 7:18 PM  

Bill Callahan sabotaged the Raiders during the Superbowl by being the coach of the Raiders during the Superbowl.

Anonymous Jack Amok January 26, 2013 7:19 PM  

Appears to be a very vibrant culture.

Anonymous Idle Spectator January 26, 2013 7:48 PM  

You see, I always knew watching soccer drove people mad.

...and in some cases thrown from the terraces in what seemed from live television pictures to be a premeditated assault.

Goal?

Are you sure these people built the pyramids? They seem kinda big.

Anonymous The other skeptic January 26, 2013 8:31 PM  

Document of interest to some

Anonymous The OASF January 26, 2013 9:28 PM  

It will get this bad one day in Meximerica for Jets fans...

Down in Miami the local pipe-wielding crowd already throws a pack of them down the steps about once every Quarter.

Anonymous The OASF January 26, 2013 9:31 PM  

Poor bastards hehehhahahaha...

Anonymous David of One January 26, 2013 10:07 PM  

FYI Ilk ... The other skeptic's "Document of interest to some" is a document involving the production/fabrication of explosives.

FYI.

Anonymous E. PERLINE January 26, 2013 10:23 PM  

I say we are all born with a computer glitch or a "bug" in the programming of our brain and that bug is related to the emotion called "anger" and it comes out in every activity we engage in, even in our games, but shucks, no one believes me.

Anonymous Jack Amok January 27, 2013 12:16 AM  

You see, I always knew watching soccer drove people mad.

Frankly, you've got to have something to do during the game. Watching a bunch of underfed, semi-swarthy types jogging back and forth all afternoon is bound to leave you stir crazy after the first, what do they call it? Menstrual cycle? No, that's not quite right. Period. That's it.

And when one of my partners dragged me to a kickball affair and the the clock ran out only to have the officials declare some indeterminate amount of "Extra time", I ceratinly was ready to commit some mayhem.

Anonymous The other skeptic January 27, 2013 12:33 AM  

Don't give up your guns

Anonymous Gx1080 January 27, 2013 12:56 AM  

Never going to be one defending the "THERE'S HONOR ON SOCCER" dipshits, but a discussion on which ball-chasing sport is better is so...meaningless.

On an off-topic question: Do Raiders's fans really think that the skulls and the makeup makes them look threathening?

Anonymous Idle Spectator January 27, 2013 2:22 AM  

Frankly, you've got to have something to do during the game. Watching a bunch of underfed, semi-swarthy types jogging back and forth all afternoon is bound to leave you stir crazy after the first, what do they call it? Menstrual cycle? No, that's not quite right. Period. That's it.

Vox plays kickball too. He's being a big silly, hangin' out with the guys during their periods. That makes him a tough brute manly-man.

Never going to be one defending the "THERE'S HONOR ON SOCCER" dipshits, but a discussion on which ball-chasing sport is better is so...meaningless.

Chasing balls.

I uh... I think... I need a cigarette. Whew.

Anonymous Jack Amok January 27, 2013 3:53 AM  

Vox plays kickball too

I've noticed. Inexcplicable really, he's nowhere near swarthy or underfed enough.

Well, when in Rome and all that.

Anonymous Idle Spectator January 27, 2013 5:46 AM  

I've noticed. Inexcplicable really, he's nowhere near swarthy or underfed enough.

It's the eccentric Italian gnome in him, breaking, yearning to be free to drink umbrella drinks. The heart has its reasons of which reason knows nothing.

Anonymous scoobius dubious January 27, 2013 10:19 AM  

"Are you sure these people built the pyramids?"

Well I'm sure you're joking, but no, of course they didn't. Just as Turkey didn't used to be full of Turks prior to the battle of Manzikert, and England didn't used to be full of Angles.

"If a country cannot at least refrain from killing each other over a game, then they do not deserve the beautiful game."

Well of course not: nobody deserves baseball except for Americans, and maybe the Japanese because they're so enthusiastic; and besides, whenever they aren't trying to kill everybody on earth, or rape animated schoolgirls with what look like giant octopus tentacles, the Japanese deserve any dispensation you could give them, yes?

By "the beautiful game" I assume you mean baseball, as any sane person with a lick of good taste would. Surely you weren't referring to that abomination with the checkered rubber ball and the endless running around and the snoring and stuff?

Blogger Galt-in-Da-Box January 27, 2013 2:39 PM  

"Yeah, but" he asked, going for the big one again, "why!?"

Anonymous Gould K. L. Brownlee January 27, 2013 9:46 PM  

I have noticed that the one thing most species of third-world savages have in common is the impulse control and social skills of an enraged badger.

Anonymous Viking January 28, 2013 9:40 AM  

Is this really what the feminists and liberals want here in the west? Because when they undermine western Christian civilization this is effectively what they work toward. I hope they enjoy.

Anonymous GreyS January 29, 2013 3:43 PM  

[b]right[/b]

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