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Thursday, January 24, 2013

Rush and the bifactional ruling party

It's a little late, but Rush Limbaugh has finally begun to realize that he's been played for decades by the Republican branch:
You know what this was? This was perhaps, folks, one of the best illustrations of the whole concept that we've spoken here about on numerous occasions of the ruling class, the political class. It doesn't matter what party, they're all part of the ruling class, the political class in DC, and when the rubber hits the road, they all circle the wagons around each other. Well, the Republicans join in circling the wagons. The Democrats never do when it's a Republican involved, but for the most part they do. They close ranks, and they protect one another because what they're protecting is themselves.

They're protecting the ruling class, the political elites, and they're maintaining the status quo....  So what we had here, folks, was the ruling class circling the wagons and protecting each other. Party affiliation did not matter. We're always hoping at hearings like this that somebody on our side is gonna stand up and give the Democrats what-for, somebody is gonna stand up and nail 'em to the cross or whatever, ask the tough questions, get to the bottom of it just as the Democrats do with our judicial nominees or anybody in our party who falls in the crosshairs. We keep waiting for it, and it never happens. They never do it. 
Now, I have no idea if he is right about setting the stage for Hilary in 2016.  I don't care.  After the last election showed that I have been too long gone to have any ability to correctly read the US electorate, I am officially out of the business of political predictions.  But it is interesting to see the man who was once Mr. Republican finally beginning to understand that there is not a real two-party system in the USA, there is merely one ruling party with two cooperative factions.

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Anonymous RedJack January 24, 2013 9:09 AM  

Rush's ego has gotten the better of him more times than not. He is a great entertainer, but he is just that. He believed himself to hold real power, and is staring to realize that he doesn't .

Hard thing to wake up to.

Anonymous JartStar January 24, 2013 9:09 AM  

I think very much of this is generational as I've noticed that older Republicans see the party as nearly divinely guided.

Blogger Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus January 24, 2013 9:10 AM  

"After the last election showed that I have been too long gone to have any ability to correctly read the US electorate..."

Well, you say that most people are idiots, and that's a pretty accurate read of the American electorate.

Anonymous Outlaw X January 24, 2013 9:10 AM  

Guess I am not welcome anymore.

Blogger Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus January 24, 2013 9:12 AM  

"He believed himself to hold real power, and is staring to realize that he doesn't."

Well, his power is in his ability to sway the millions who listen to them, informing them, and then urging them to action.

The problem is not so much with whether *Rush* has power or not, but simply the fact that the GOP wing of the Statocrat Party doesn't give a toot what conservatives, libertarians, liberty lovers, Tea Partiers, or anyone else that supposedly makes up their "base" thinks about anything.

Anonymous dh January 24, 2013 9:21 AM  

We keep waiting for it, and it never happens. They never do it.

It's not that the GOP isn't trying, they try. But the people trying to "nail" Hillary to the cross are Sen. John McCain, Sen. Lindsey Graham, Sen. Marc Rubio, Sen. Rand Paul and Sen. Ron Johnson.

John McCain = Get Of My Lawn. I read his speach/questions. Virtually incoherent.

Lindsey Graham = Self Hating Gay Republican. Perhaps the least effective Senator in the entire Senate.

Marc Rubio = Complete Lightweight. Clearly over his head during this hearing. Whole time was spent posturing for future office.

Rand Paul = Structured his whole time in order to get in a one liner designed to be used in fundraising appeals, future campaigns, and people interested in red meat.

Ron Johnson = Tried to play hardball, and instead got pounded by Sen. Clinton.

For VD, and Rush Limbaugh, I know this is hard for you all to get. But, based on this hearing alone, the GOP's elected officials are inferior, intellectually, to Hillary Clinton. The GOP played it entirely wrong, again. A desire to 'get' a Clinton allowed her to mop up the floor with the elite GOP investigation squad. This is why, despite decades of GOP attacks, Hillary Clinton is more popular than ever. She has higher approval ratings than any national GOP figure. All the national press was favorable to Clinton.

And course, Limbaugh is about something else. You don't "get" to the bottom of something by questioning the cabinet level officer. State Dept. did a pretty good review of the entire attack, and the Inspector Generals report has the answers - or the start to the answers - of almost everything you would want to know.

If these people knew how to run an investigation, they would start with that document, which is lengthy and detailed, and dig and dig and dig.

Instead, you send up the new Bob Dole, a useless closet case, two Senators who hope to use their media time to run for President, and a newbie. To go up against a first-lady, former Senator, former Presidential candidate, and Obama associate who has been fending off far more sophisticated attacks for about 30 years. Brilliant.

Anonymous outlaw x January 24, 2013 9:21 AM  

It took me along damn time to type that other chit on this damn android mp3 player . Waaaaah

And if anyone is just now figuring out who Rush is they are seven yrars behind me.

Anonymous harry12 January 24, 2013 9:24 AM  

Is Mt. Rushmore going to become more diverse?

Blogger IM2L844 January 24, 2013 9:25 AM  

Well, you might be out of the business of political predictions, but I think Hillary is the obvious choice to further play on the liberal sensibilities and get the first woman in history elected to the office of the biggest hood ornament in the world. I don't see how they can possibly resist the temptation now that they've tasted that sweet pride swelling ambrosia.

The question is which openly gay man will step up to pose as the competition and hedge the liberal bet...just in case.

Anonymous RINO January 24, 2013 9:26 AM  

Why retire from political predictions when it's just getting easy? We crossed the demographic point of no return so just pick the Democrat in each presidential election cycle. The primary may remain a bit tricky but it's obvious if Hillary runs it will be hers. Is anyone going to pick Joe Biden over the first female president?

Anonymous dh January 24, 2013 9:30 AM  

Well, his power is in his ability to sway the millions who listen to them, informing them, and then urging them to action.

The truth is that Limbaugh has rarely ever urged his listerners to do anything. His audience is pretty much a demographic dead-end, and that's why he doesn't try to actually accomplish anything except boot licking. Go back and listen to his 'interviews' with Cheney. For someone who is supposed a freedom lover he pretty much bought into the whole security state hook, line and sinker.

The other thing is that he has a pathological problem with the Clintons, sort of like VD. For him, like VD, all roads lead to the Clintons. Even for the 2012 election, VD was speculating that Obama didn't want the job, was going to stand down, resign, make way for Clinton. The Clinton-wing was going to do this, is doing that. If you go back to the early part of the 2008 primary, Limbaugh was actually concern-trolling Clinton, and was using Obama's rhetoric against her. Because the whole time, like VD, he thought it was a done deal for Clinton.

In this latest Clinton conspiracy, the GOP is clearing the way for 2016 for Hillary. She has successfully co-opted the GOP into making way for her to ascend in 2016. Marco Rubio, Rand Paul, and Ron Johnson, who all have aspirations, are all in it to help Clinton for 2016.

Anonymous jay c January 24, 2013 9:30 AM  

I hope that her "What difference does it make?" moment would put a stop to any aspirations to the white house, but I'm not counting on it. I have almost zero faith in the American people to make sound decisions about anything, especially about things that actually matter.

Anonymous outlaw x January 24, 2013 9:31 AM  

Man I could say things about Rush that would forever ban me that are true. Want me to go futher Vox?

Anonymous dh January 24, 2013 9:37 AM  

Why retire from political predictions when it's just getting easy? We crossed the demographic point of no return so just pick the Democrat in each presidential election cycle. The primary may remain a bit tricky but it's obvious if Hillary runs it will be hers. Is anyone going to pick Joe Biden over the first female president?

Biden and Clinton - both to old. One or the other may run. I don't think Biden will run unless he is assured of complete party support. A sitting VP losing a primary would be a problem - a big one.

Look at Deval Patrick, Martin O'Malley, and mostly at Julian Castro.

Just as an FYI, Julian Castro may be the ultimate candidate for 2016 or 2020. If he could put Texas in any danager at all - between better demographics in 2016 or 2020 - of going Democratic, the entire primary and general race is over before it starts. O-V-E-R. NY, CA, TX = 50% of the EV's needed to win the Presidency.

Anonymous dh January 24, 2013 9:38 AM  

I hope that her "What difference does it make?" moment would put a stop to any aspirations to the white house, but I'm not counting on it. I have almost zero faith in the American people to make sound decisions about anything, especially about things that actually matter.

No way, this was a huge win for her. Completely cowed the GOP.

Anonymous Noah B. January 24, 2013 9:40 AM  

"Completely cowed the GOP."

Not at all. The whole thing was theater.

Anonymous Vidad January 24, 2013 9:41 AM  

RINO "Is anyone going to pick Joe Biden over the first female president?"

Shoot... I hope so. I'm jonesing for a Biden presidency. The man is hilarious.

Anonymous Josh January 24, 2013 9:43 AM  

Rand Paul = Structured his whole time in order to get in a one liner designed to be used in fundraising appeals, future campaigns, and people interested in red meat.

Rand won the Republican nomination with that exchange.

Anonymous DrTorch January 24, 2013 9:43 AM  

I think Hillary is too old for 2016.

Rush does have power, b/c he can influence people. However, it would be nice if he really was beginning to see that the current GOP is the ruling elite, and that change is in order.

The GOP has not had a good communicator since Reagan. Communicating a vision is key to winning big elections. Rush and Hannity have filled that void, but have been sloppy about the vision, and careless about whether the candidates actually intend to work for it.

I believe that Ron Paul would have had a legit chance if Rush and Hannity had been stumping for him.

Anonymous outlaw x January 24, 2013 9:47 AM  

Lets forget Rush and the faggot Repubs for a second. Vox is clear in his meaning. Now lets explore the rest when I can get to my computer thid afternoon after baby sitting. Only if I were the nanny SB was, I defer. But still do my duty.

Anonymous JW January 24, 2013 9:51 AM  

Ah Rush always was a shill for the Repubs. Repubs good, Dems bad. Mostly this was all a lot of BS from him. Mostly to keep the conservatives/libertarians in the land to vote for repubs rather than have them go third party. Now he finally admits that there is only one party...we knew it for years.
fim

Anonymous Salt January 24, 2013 9:55 AM  

Rush is just another in the long line of people finding out they've been played. Day late and dollar short. All of it was wishful thinking.



Anonymous Daniel January 24, 2013 9:56 AM  

Did anyone think that Shelob vs. the Orcs was going to end any differently?

President Gollum lured them in, in that sort of worshipful idiocy that keeps him alive in spite of himself. It was game over as soon as they stepped into the catacombs.

But it wasn't like their deaths were meaningless. They did buy enough time to raise the debt ceiling, after all.

Anonymous JCB January 24, 2013 10:00 AM  

It's laughable that Rush had an epiphany on this. His job is to keep conservatives on the plantation, and he has traditionally been very good at it. Problem is, some of the slaves are waking up. If Rush is talking about this, it's only because he is worried about losing his audience to upstarts like Alex Jones.

Anonymous Poli_Mis January 24, 2013 10:08 AM  

Julian Castro will be in the running some way some how. You can take that to the bank. Anyone watching national politics as it plays out on the ground in The Lone Star State can see this coming.

Anonymous Josh January 24, 2013 10:09 AM  

Shoot... I hope so. I'm jonesing for a Biden presidency. The man is hilarious.

His comedy would be wasted as president.

We really need a Joe Biden reality show. Each episode would see Joe Biden go do something that real Americans do.

Joe Biden goes to Costco, Joe Biden changes a flat tire, Joe Biden calls Comcast customer service, Joe Biden works a shift at McDonalds, Joe Biden reads Dr Seuss to kindergarten students, Joe Biden goes speed dating...

Anonymous Vidad January 24, 2013 10:14 AM  

Joe Biden sings the national anthem at NASCAR, Joe Biden goes coal mining, Joe Biden lights up a fattie at Marley Fest...

Anonymous Loki of Asgard January 24, 2013 10:15 AM  

Only one political party?

Need I say it again?

Anonymous Loki of Asgard January 24, 2013 10:18 AM  

Joe Biden sings the national anthem at NASCAR, Joe Biden goes coal mining, Joe Biden lights up a fattie at Marley Fest...

Joe Biden makes a funny squishing noise under the boot of an extraterrestrial overlord...

Would you not pay $19.95 to see that? Admit it.

Anonymous JartStar January 24, 2013 10:22 AM  

Hillary will be pretty old in 2016, but certainly can win the nomination. So long as the Democrats put up a minority or woman they win the White House automatically thanks to demographics and politics of identity, the only way they can screw it up is to pick a white, older, rich guy like Kerry.

Anonymous Stilicho January 24, 2013 10:23 AM  

But it is interesting to see the man who was once Mr. Republican finally beginning to understand that there is not a real two-party system in the USA, there is merely one ruling party with two cooperative factions.

This is part of a trend with Rush. He would not endorse Romney on his own merits and supported him only as a less-bad alternative to Obama.

Blogger Giraffe January 24, 2013 10:30 AM  

Look out, Joe Biden goes deer hunting.

Anonymous Vidad January 24, 2013 10:36 AM  

With a nerf gun.

Anonymous Edjamacator January 24, 2013 10:36 AM  

Way to show how far behind pretty much everyone else you are, Rush. What's next? Going to "discover" that the sky is blue?

Anonymous Edjamacator January 24, 2013 10:38 AM  

Joe Biden makes a funny squishing noise under the boot of an extraterrestrial overlord...

Sheesh, Loki. Doesn't Signe have enough to do without also cleaning off your boots?

Anonymous Anonymous January 24, 2013 10:40 AM  

I don't know about Rush being a mere shill for the GOP. I'll assume that the man is sincere in his devotion to what he considers conservatism. His analysis is, more often than not, spot-on; his conclusions, however, have all too often reflected too much pragmatism and too little principle (thinking, no doubt, he was safeguarding said conservative principle). The GOP has talked a good talk for the most part in the person of Reagan, for example, and the Democratic Party has long since gone over the edge for Progressivism; ergo, the GOP must be the only way for the conservative voter, or at least so we have thought. And Rush and others of us have been caught up in this false dichotomy for years. Now the chickens are truly coming home to roost, and we're paying for that sacrifice of our principles for a false pragmatism.

Regards,
David Smith

Blogger Eric Mueller January 24, 2013 10:44 AM  

I stopped paying attention to Rush when I realized he was a Republicrat above all else, and I wasn't.

It will be interesting to see if this revelation leads him anywhere, or if he just puts his head back down and gets back to his status quo.

Anonymous Loki of Asgard January 24, 2013 10:47 AM  

Sheesh, Loki. Doesn't Signe have enough to do without also cleaning off your boots?

Is that white armour I see?

Anonymous Curlytop January 24, 2013 10:48 AM  

I don't see this as being anything particularly new for Rush. Every now and then, he falls off the wagon and breaks script. It was ALWAYS entertaining! I haven't listened to him in years but I distinctly remember him going on a rant back in 2002 or 03(?) when he griped about being tired of carrying the water for the Republicans during his radio show. Shortly after, his drug addiction was made public, he was whisked away to rehab and emerged towing the party line as always. I'm guessing he learned how one-sided that partnership w the Bushes really was...

This has been repeated a few times since, so it only confirms that the ruling faction really doesn't care to conceal the obvious anymore.

So if Limbaugh is touting this w/o fear, it really IS a sign of the impending doom ahead.

Anonymous Mike M. January 24, 2013 10:53 AM  

I've listened to Rush (on and off) since 1992. He's a conservative, not necessarily a Republican.

The question is whether or not he comes out and starts talking about term limits and nailing people in the primary elections. THAT will work.

I live 70 miles from DC...close enough to realize just how corrosive the leftist miasma in that town can be. Only the strongest conservatives can stay in it for extended periods without starting to slip to the left.

Anonymous jay c January 24, 2013 10:55 AM  

Salt wrote, Rush is just another in the long line of people finding out they've been played. Day late and dollar short. All of it was wishful thinking.

You mean 20 years late and millions of dollars ahead?

If Rush has been played, then so have I, cuz I could have sworn he was playing right along with the rest of them.

Anonymous jay c January 24, 2013 10:56 AM  

JCB wrote, It's laughable that Rush had an epiphany on this. His job is to keep conservatives on the plantation, and he has traditionally been very good at it. Problem is, some of the slaves are waking up. If Rush is talking about this, it's only because he is worried about losing his audience to upstarts like Alex Jones.

Exactly.

Anonymous Mr. Nightstick January 24, 2013 10:57 AM  

Better late than never.

Blogger James Dixon January 24, 2013 10:57 AM  

> It will be interesting to see if this revelation leads him anywhere, or if he just puts his head back down and gets back to his status quo.

Would anyone be willing to place any money on the former? I know I wouldn't.

Blogger James Dixon January 24, 2013 10:59 AM  

> But, based on this hearing alone, the GOP's elected officials are inferior, intellectually, to Hillary Clinton.

Intellect has nothing to do with it, dh. Hillary has always been a shyster, and is good at it. That doesn't mean she's smart.

Anonymous Krul January 24, 2013 11:06 AM  

I am officially out of the business of political predictions.

I certainly hope that means you'll invest more in the business of economic predictions.

Aside from your exemplary record, economic predictions could provide direction to some very stimulating and useful discussions.

Anonymous Edjamacator January 24, 2013 11:06 AM  

Is that white armour I see?

Nah, if I really wanted to sway you, I'd just send a Russian woman to you to put on an act. I heard that works.

Anonymous skynet January 24, 2013 11:08 AM  

Rush better do a lot more than just wake up to the one party system. When these gangsters in Washington turn their drones on Alex Jones you better believe they are going to take out the likes of Rush and Hannity too. No way these criminals are going to give those knuckleheads a second chance to wake up again.

Anonymous Move Zig January 24, 2013 11:19 AM  

Mancow?

Anonymous Mr. Pea January 24, 2013 11:20 AM  

Better late than never.

What? Deja Vu all over again. And again.

Anonymous Signe January 24, 2013 11:25 AM  

Nah, if I really wanted to sway you, I'd just send a Russian woman to you to put on an act. I heard that works.

I also hear they don't react well to bullets.

Just, y'know, we have a lot of security here, and I'm not real good at remembering to give clearance to unauthorized personnel.

Blogger Dan Hewitt January 24, 2013 11:26 AM  

D’s and R’s often talk like this to sound cool between elections. But come Election 2016, I bet that Rush will be shouting himself hoarse about:
-what a dangerous radical candidate Clinton is
-how this is the Most Important Election Ever
-how candidate Palin must be elected President in order to avert a fascist police state and total collapse of society

Anonymous Loki of Asgard January 24, 2013 11:29 AM  

Why, Signe, is this jealousy?

Anonymous Mr. Pea January 24, 2013 11:30 AM  

Rush better do a lot more than just wake up to the one party system.

He certainly knows how to play the fiddle.

Anonymous jack January 24, 2013 11:31 AM  

@ Eric Mueller

I stopped being a rush fan when he attacked Ron Paul and ignored him [probably on orders from the PTB repub or dem] and then had the effrontery to state there was no real conservative in the race when RP was definitely on the ballot.

He pretty pitiful as any kind of white knight.

Anonymous Signe January 24, 2013 11:35 AM  

Why, Signe, is this jealousy?

No, sir. It's fear that the minions would elect a new staff princess, and then how would I get file boxes moved around?

Or the "Russian woman" would be Romanov, which is worse. I still haven't gotten over the time she kicked me in the face. I wasn't even doing anything, and the you-know-what kicked me right in the face!

Anonymous Dan in Tx January 24, 2013 11:37 AM  

Dan H said: "....
-how candidate Palin must be elected President in order to avert a fascist police state and total collapse of society"

I agree with you except I think you can delete the "fascist police state" part, Rush has shown over the years that's he's pretty much ok with that.

Anonymous dh January 24, 2013 11:38 AM  

Intellect has nothing to do with it, dh. Hillary has always been a shyster, and is good at it. That doesn't mean she's smart.

Ehh, I don't know, the entire GOP has been out for blood, as of now, for about 25 years. And she still handed them their asses. So yeah, I guess call it shyster, but if you keep getting beat, time and again, by the same person - she's obviously better at it than you are.

Anonymous dh January 24, 2013 11:39 AM  

I agree with you except I think you can delete the "fascist police state" part, Rush has shown over the years that's he's pretty much ok with that.

Unless it's his perversion and predilection for sexual tourism, and then, the State is bad. Very bad.

Anonymous Loki of Asgard January 24, 2013 11:40 AM  

Or the "Russian woman" would be Romanov, which is worse.

You make a good point.

Very well, you remain Staff Princess. Get the file boxes moved, though. If I trip over them again, I shall assign you to take Fenris to the groomers.

Anonymous Loki of Asgard January 24, 2013 11:47 AM  

Now, where were we? Ah yes.

Ehh, I don't know, the entire GOP has been out for blood, as of now, for about 25 years.

The GOP out for blood? Mortal, they would not know the scent of blood if they were drowned in their own, much less have a taste for it.

They parade and put on a show, but there are no entrails in their great, bloated bellies. If they were truly "out for blood", I say they would have demanded this "birth certificate" your president first insisted did not exist and then produced some years later.

If they were "out for blood", they would die on a hill, some hill, any hill. But they flee to make play at fighting some other day...

Anonymous sprach von Teufelshunden January 24, 2013 11:48 AM  

My goodness! Did "The Great One" finally decide and have the courage to read my letter? Maybe the Schipper's thang finally got to him. Maybe the Easter Bunny is truly genuine to likes of both El Rushbo and Alex Jones. Holy shit! Cats and dogs in bed with each other. Infowars cross-posting PressTV. Jones will be interviewing Rush, and next thing, we have "Talent on Loan From God" guest hosting Infowars. It could happen. Stranger things have occurred before...

Blogger James Dixon January 24, 2013 11:50 AM  

> ...she's obviously better at it than you are.

Being better at her skill set is not intellect. They're completely different things. But yes, she's a far better shyster than the republicans. And in politics, that's extremely useful. Shame that, but then MPAI.

Anonymous LES January 24, 2013 11:56 AM  

Rush got neo-conned a long time ago. He's still a neo-con.

If you want to know when the US or Israel is going to attack Iran then listen
to Rush. He'll be hyping the need for war just like he did the invasion of Iraq.

Rush has no integrity.

Anonymous Gen. Kong January 24, 2013 12:17 PM  

So the idiot Limbaugh stuck his toe in the water of reality briefly. However, it's not just the political class or the political elite - it's the financial elite, the one-percenters who Limbaugh defends to this day as "entrepreneurs who create jobs", who pull the strings of their political elite puppets. I've seen no retraction of his support for the police state, the wars to make the ummah safe for feminism, sodomy and the Amurikan way, etc. His job is to keep the "conservative" idiocracy believing that they still have a voice in the rigged system, that if they just suck it up and work a but harder for Lloyd, Ben and the other slavemasters they can get ahead. Fools.

Anonymous Gen. Kong January 24, 2013 12:29 PM  

Josh:

Rand won the Republican nomination with that exchange.

That's absurd. The vampire squids, Sheldon Adelson and the like still own the Repuke party. They'd never allow Paul the nomination - not even if 90% of the Republicans voted for him. If the recent 'mostest important erection evaahhh' didn't illustrate for you how completely rigged "democracy" is in the Banksta Banana Republick is, what will?

Anonymous sprach von Teufelshunden January 24, 2013 12:35 PM  

Okay, so we wish to talk about Hillary? I mean, the REAL news...

It can now be reported that the International Monetary Fund and Austrian banks have given the Obama Administration a one week deadline to complete the bilateral tax agreements with the U.S. Treasury that will finally implement the Wanta-Reagan-Mitterrand Protocols.

At this hour, a massive financial meltdown of the world economy is imminent with trillions of dollars of worthless derivatives (toxic assets) tied to the Chinese Treasury and the Deutsche Bank could be called upon by major hedge funds within 48 hours.

We can also report that investigators in the U.S. Justice Department are now seeking an indictment of U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton regarding the murder of U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens and three other Americans that took place in Benghazi, Libya on 9/11/12.

Note: Word has it that current U.S. President Barack Obama wants to purge his Administration of the former Clinton Administration appointments starting with Bush-Clinton Crime Family Syndicate's Glencore Commodities Marc Rich stooge, U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder.

New evidence has surfaced that U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton was taking orders from the Turkish Ambassador to Libya and simultaneously disregarding numerous requests by Ambassador Stevens for extra security regarding protecting the unregistered diplomatic CIA outpost in Benghazi, Libya.

Rand Paul Destroys Hillary Clinton Over Benghazi-Gate During Capitol Hill Press


Hillary Clintons Crime Syndicate Insane Lesbian and Killer Fran Townsend defends Hillary Clinton on Homosexual Anderson Coopers CNN 360 Program



Source: Tom Heneghan, Stew Webb

Listen to Barnewall's latest podcast, on the credibility of Heneghan. Also Stew Webb, Gordon Duff, et al...

El Rushbo, just how courageous are you?

I report, you decide...

Anonymous Jack Amok January 24, 2013 12:45 PM  

The reactions on this post are the reason things have gone to Hell. Too many of you damn fools can't pass up the opportunity to blast away at Limbaugh. Too late, not sincere, just a fool, tool of the joooooooos, inconsequential...

Here's a guy with an audience of 20+ million giving some indication he might be willing to fight against the Incumbocrats, and you act like a bunch of Middle School drama queens. Gotta maintain your cliques, keep your place in the snide-ocracy, turn full Gamma and snipe at a potential new rival.

Sheesh. You might alpha up and look at him as a potential resource to be used. Or exploited if you wish. But that requires ditching the "it's all over so lets bask in our misery" complex. Yeah, the old Republic may be all over, but smart people will use that realization to get a head start on the fight for the new one.

Anonymous Signe January 24, 2013 12:46 PM  

(Breaking character a moment: LoA only just now got your jab, Edjamacator, and he's in there laughing about how slow he is today.

(You're not allowed to blame him. He's working on wrapping up business so he can move shop out of state. It's complicated and annoying and I don't know how he finds time to breathe, much less roleplay.)

Anonymous Daniel January 24, 2013 12:49 PM  

Yeah, Jack, because Rush is just waiting for people like us to enable him to unleash his listening horde on D.C.

You've got it upside down and backwards.

If you think the problem is that the libertarian-minded have failed to include the disaffected members of the GOP into our schemes, you are bats.

Bats.

Anonymous TheVillageIdiotRet January 24, 2013 12:52 PM  

I just wish I could've seen the look on Hillary's face,when Bill had to inform her of the party's Elders decision to go with the Obama nomination:
Sorry Honey
so close
But no Cigar


DannyR

Anonymous Stilicho January 24, 2013 12:52 PM  

@ Gen. Kong: the journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step. Rush has taken two small steps. Let's see if his journey continues. He could be useful.

Blogger JaimeInTexas January 24, 2013 12:53 PM  

"I feel liberated, and I'm going to tell you as plainly as I can why. I no longer am going to have to carry the water for people who I don't think deserve having their water carried. Now, you might say, "Well, why have you been doing it?" Because the stakes are high. Even though the Republican Party let us down, to me they represent a far better future for my beliefs and therefore the country's than the Democrat Party and liberalism does."
Rush Limbaugh (circa Nov. 9, 2006)

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When the time comes, Rush will say "thank you sir, may I have another" and proceed to endorse the best alternative to bad choices, blah, blah, and that Ron Paul was and still is a kook.

As someone already posted, Rush will still be several millions ahead.

Anonymous Glenngarry January 24, 2013 12:54 PM  

Cigars are for..closers!

Anonymous sprach von Teufelshunden January 24, 2013 12:58 PM  

I look at this further from an initial cursory glance. Hillary will not be the DNC nominee of 2016. She is being sacrificed. They eat their own.

First all, Benghazi happened on 9/11/12. This was a false-flag, in the same tradition of 9/11/01. Believe you me, they ARE related.

Stevens was a Illuminati blood sacrifice. Hillary, a satanic illuminatus, shows she has a boss. That being the Turkish Ambassador to Libya. This does not necessarily point the Turkish govt. in any official role here. Simply the Ambassador posing his role as possible cover, actually demonstrating his superiority over Hillary, of being her Illuminati handler. This is simply how things work.

Hillary is known CIA. Has been since at least her college days. Where did the CIA/OSS go wrong? I'm not sure it ever did right. It has been an Illuminati organ from its inception. Study the CIA seal. Understand what a eagle really is. (per Manly P. Hall). That star in the center. Learn to comprehend the Annu Signature...

Anonymous Edjamacator January 24, 2013 12:58 PM  

It's complicated and annoying and I don't know how he finds time to breathe, much less roleplay.

That's fully understandable, Signe. The weight of the world and all that...

Blogger ray January 24, 2013 1:07 PM  

I think very much of this is generational as I've noticed that older Republicans see the party as nearly divinely guided


LOL!

yeah well if "divine" includes lucy fer, then america certainly is divinely guided

it's true, tho, that the "pastors" and "ministers" of america have sold "their" flocks a pat economic and political agenda the past century . . . papered-over by "christianity" and blatherings about God -- and the righties, pockets full of moolah, have LOVED hearing the "preaching" which uses Christ as a tool to rationalize and condone righty politics, moneygrubbing, and womanfirstism

Blogger James Dixon January 24, 2013 1:10 PM  

> Here's a guy with an audience of 20+ million giving some indication he might be willing to fight against the Incumbocrats,

He's given those indications before. He always toes the line in the end.

Anonymous Stilicho January 24, 2013 1:18 PM  

He's given those indications before. He always toes the line in the end.

Perhaps, but his acquiescence is becoming increasingly grudging. Don't throw the tar-baby out with the bathwater just yet.

Plus, if Rush is any kind of barometer of the feelings of more conservative GOP members (and I think he is) then the fact that he has moved this much is a hopeful sign. It is far to late to avoid the consequences of much of the damage that has already been accomplished, but there might be a good base to rebuild from.

Blogger ray January 24, 2013 1:26 PM  

Gen. Kong has Rush's shtick nailed

i remember slagging Rush a decade ago, as the On Plantation shill that he is -- and the righties on the net went ballistic! defending Their Hero lol

you bought him, you got him, and altho hefty, he isnt gonna make much of a shield anymore between the troops of our Diversity Dystopia, and your asses

Anonymous Freadqig January 24, 2013 1:29 PM  

Can Loki and his overweight girlfriend get their own blog, so that everyone else is spared their annoying role-playing? Thanks.

Anonymous Loki of Asgard January 24, 2013 1:40 PM  

Can Loki and his overweight girlfriend get their own blog, so that everyone else is spared their annoying role-playing? Thanks.

[If Vox would like, I will respectfully take it and my size-4 girlfriend somewhere else, or at least tone it the hell down. I've been meaning to tone it down anyway. It's getting too damn draining.]

Anonymous sprach von Teufelshunden January 24, 2013 1:49 PM  

OT: (atheist alert)

Sorry, but I must. In the words of Sheriff Bart (aka Cleavon Little) "I have to!"

Thus, a cosmos is orderly because it obeys physical laws. Yet, apart from God, this seems unlikely. It follows that, if reality were ultimately chaotic as the atomists believed, science would not be possible.

So dear atheist, put that in your pipe and smoke it...

Anonymous Dr. Thor January 24, 2013 1:59 PM  

Loki of Asgard January 24, 2013 1:40 PM Can Loki and his overweight girlfriend get their own blog, so that everyone else is spared their annoying role-playing? Thanks.

[If Vox would like, I will respectfully take it and my size-4 girlfriend somewhere else, or at least tone it the hell down. I've been meaning to tone it down anyway. It's getting too damn draining.]


Loki, have you ever seen the commercial where they say, "if you have an erection lasting four or more hours, call your doctor immediately"?

I think you're going on about a six hour boner. Just ease off on the Viagra a bit.

Anonymous Lysander Spooner January 24, 2013 2:11 PM  

"Our Enemy the State" - Albert Nock

Pretty much splains it is us(the people) against them(the politicians/bureaucrats).

A modern version that has text messaging lingo might go far in explaining his concepts to the American Noobs.

Anonymous Dan in Tx January 24, 2013 2:35 PM  

I enjoy Loki and his girl's posts. I'll take Loki and Signe over Asher and Tad anyday. But hey, that's just me.

Anonymous Vidad January 24, 2013 2:39 PM  

Now Thor is slagging Loki. Where are we mortals supposed to congregate safely?

Anonymous Outlaw X January 24, 2013 2:42 PM  

The what if vs the what is. This whole argument revolves around these gravitational attractions. Thank you God for the sleepiness peeping I was teaching chess.
The what ifs rule with their fear mongering and anecdotal snow flakes. I am not a man of strong language in which I will admit, most readily. Most people who know me know this is true unless you are my mother or gandmother(RIP) Love ya Mable.
But this is much more than about me or Vox, this is about you. I don't have the answers but I know for sure one thing the answer isn't. "WHAT IF". No my dear friends the answer is what is. I had a long conversation with Big Bro and he convinced me of this truth. And when he did I melted and my soul felt it. I really am sorry if you don't have one because he said it isn't Rush or some Ed guy I don't know. It is you and the rest is a lie.

The "What if" is for dreamers and pessimists. The "What is" is for you and me and that is love. Tell them that!

Anonymous Loki of Asgard January 24, 2013 2:47 PM  

Now Thor is slagging Loki. Where are we mortals supposed to congregate safely?

[Well, I was going to say something about "If you saw Signe, the boner wouldn't surprise you", but I've got the whole smartass thing on hold for now.]

Anonymous Anonymous January 24, 2013 2:49 PM  

Vox, I think you are going about your political predictions all wrong. You are treating politics in the same manner that Keynesians treat economics. In both the mistake is made in assuming that people are both rational and well informed. I think that if you stick with the MPAI rule of thumb and choose the most stupid outcome possible you will fair much better in predicting American elections.
-Mr.B.A.D.

Blogger James Dixon January 24, 2013 2:53 PM  

> Can Loki and his overweight girlfriend get their own blog, so that everyone else is spared their annoying role-playing? Thanks.

Why? They've been entertaining so far.

Blogger The Deuce January 24, 2013 2:55 PM  

dh:

Ehh, I don't know, the entire GOP has been out for blood, as of now, for about 25 years. And she still handed them their asses. So yeah, I guess call it shyster, but if you keep getting beat, time and again, by the same person - she's obviously better at it than you are.

If only. This incestuous little love-in should make it obvious that the GOP isn't interested in getting anybody or doing anything that their so-called "principles" would require. The media certainly runs interference for the Democrats, but the truth is that the Republicans let them because they really don't care.

Anonymous map January 24, 2013 3:00 PM  

This is an interesting take. Libertarians often argue that the two parties represent two wings of the same bird of prey.

Yet, something doesn't wash. The nature of the two wings of the same bird of prey is equality. Each wing is a complementary equal holding a bird aloft.
That is not the dynamic of the Republican and Democrat parties.

The Democrat Party is seen as a sober, centrist, cool and collected entity with status and power. The Republican Party is seen as a loser party of court jesters.

Why would anyone want to play the role of the court jester in the system? Don't the Republicans actually want to rule? Isn't ruling better than having some role as a foil in the system?

Anonymous Outlaw X January 24, 2013 3:09 PM  

"Why would anyone want to play the role of the court jester in the system? Don't the Republicans actually want to rule? Isn't ruling better than having some role as a foil in the system?"

Let me guess. The left wing is stronger and provides the power while the right wing provides the fin. Therefore they travel in a big oblong circle like NASCAR and all cheer.Hoping for a nice crash now and again. You like the Viagra car or Tide?

Anonymous Mark in Florida January 24, 2013 3:24 PM  

Harlem Globetrotters(Democrats) vs. the Washington Generals(Republicans), it's an increasing boring and quite obvious spectacle, at least the B-Ballers(pro wrestlers too) have to stay fit,may get injured, get dropped from the team, in politics the audience loses!

Anonymous Anonymous January 24, 2013 3:36 PM  

If Rush is talking about this, it's only because he is worried about losing his audience to upstarts like Alex Jones.

[E---1/2--/F]
TRUTH

Anonymous Gen. Kong January 24, 2013 3:59 PM  

This is all cheap theater to distract from that which is really going on - the abolition of the second amendment. While the Repukes were putting on their laughable dog and pony show - covered by their moronic lap dog Limbaugh - McConnell, McCain and the rest were busy cutting a deal with Harry Ried to get rid of the filibuster. This will enable Di-Fi's gun ban to be enacted in the Senate on a party-line vote. It will be done in much the same way Obamacare was passed four years ago.

Once passed in the Senate, Weepin' Johnny, Eric Cantor and the rest of his bathhouse boys will ensure its passage in the conference committee - amalgamating it with some meaningless crap they pass in the bathhouse. Limbaugh is doing the job he is paid by his overlords to do - keep the zeks and proles amused and holding on the illusion that there is some sort of actual political opposition. Once Boehner, McCain, Miss Lindsay and the rest pass an amnesty for all the illegals, it will become a one-party state a la South Africa. Of course, we can expect another "tea-party" BS movement to rise up and protest - but it will be infiltrated and rendered into a joke by the usual suspects in short order just as the previous attempt was. It's rather depressing seeing folks do the same damned thing over and over and expecting the result will somehow be different this time. Guess it beats opening their eyes to reality.

Here's a little Valentine for Pro-lifers from your friends in Obamaland. Four solid decades of voting Repuke - and this is your reward. Happy 40th anniversary!

Anonymous Jack Amok January 24, 2013 4:51 PM  

Bats?

I'm pointing out a bunch of you are acting like bitter Gamma-boys standing in the corner muttering about how everything sucks and everybody sucks and nothin's gonna work.

Anonymous Asher January 24, 2013 6:14 PM  

@ James Dixon

Intellect has nothing to do with it, dh. Hillary has always been a shyster, and is good at it. That doesn't mean she's smart.

Do you even listen to yourself? Dumb people don't make good shysters.

Underestimating one's opponent? Yeah, that's a winning strateg.

Anonymous Asher January 24, 2013 6:16 PM  

@ Dan in TX

I enjoy Loki and his girl's posts. I'll take Loki and Signe over Asher and Tad anyday. But hey, that's just me.

You're sounding pretty r-selected over there Dan. Now, run along and play with the other rabbits.

Anonymous Asher January 24, 2013 6:27 PM  

@ Noah B

Not at all. The whole thing was theater.

In politics theater is huge. This is what you fail to grasp and the point of most of my comments. What do you think I'm doing when I talk about hunting down and exterminating the families, including infants, of the ruling elites? Political theater.

Am I serious? Sort of. I sincerely hope it wouldn't come to that but I would be entirely willing should the need arise.

Politics IS mostly theater.

Anonymous Azimus January 24, 2013 6:30 PM  

VD:
But it is interesting to see the man who was once Mr. Republican finally beginning to understand that there is not a real two-party system in the USA, there is merely one ruling party with two cooperative factions.


But Americans are tired of 'politics as usual' in Washington! They want people reaching across the aisle and passing bipartisan legislation to move this country forward!

At least... that's what they keep telling us. .

Anonymous Asher January 24, 2013 6:31 PM  

@ Josh

Rand won the Republican nomination with that exchange.

Then the next presidential election is a lock for the Dems.

@ DrTorch

I believe that Ron Paul would have had a legit chance if Rush and Hannity had been stumping for him.

And Ron Paul would have probably been annihilated in a fashion that would have made Goldwater's showing look triumphant.

Anonymous Asher January 24, 2013 6:38 PM  

@ David Smith

his conclusions, however, have all too often reflected too much pragmatism and too little principle ... we're paying for that sacrifice of our principles for a false pragmatism.

How many times has Rush regurgitated the mindless "conservative principles work every time they've been tried"? Principles only work when they lead to the acquisition of powe. Otherwise, you're no different from the schizophrenic on the street corner preaching that the end of the world is coming.

If you want to look at implementing your principles take a look at which ones lead to power, keep them and jettison the rest.

A great place to start is the pro-life movement. Is abortion horrible and disgusting? Yep. Will seeking to outlaw it lead to political power? Nope.

If conservatives want power they need an integrated and coherent plan for gaining power; power, not principles, is the ultimate arbiter. Until you realize that you are just all rabbits seething in your own particular warren.

Do rabbits seethe?

Anonymous Asher January 24, 2013 6:43 PM  

@ Loki

The GOP out for blood? Mortal, they would not know the scent of blood if they were drowned in their own, much less have a taste for it

Conservatives are rabbits. Blood is power. Grass is principles. Conservatives get too distracted by grass to care about blood.

The moral of this parable is to lose the fetish for grass.

Anonymous Asher January 24, 2013 6:45 PM  

@ James Dixon

Being better at her skill set is not intellect. They're completely different things.

Yeah, you clearly don't pay attention to what you write. Consider two surgeons in the same field where one is better than the other. What differentiates them? Intellect.

Anonymous Loki of Asgard January 24, 2013 6:54 PM  

If conservatives want power they need an integrated and coherent plan for gaining power; power, not principles, is the ultimate arbiter.

Here is what I would consider an excellent plan for gaining power:

1. Identify a group who tends to align itself with positions or principles you want eliminated;
2. Encourage some off-centred lunatic to associate himself with them. It matters not if they roundly reject his lunacy; the object is to tar them all;
3. Provoke the lunatic to commit some hideous crime--for instance, torturing a toddler to death;
4. Catch the lunatic and ensure that he dies "resisting arrest";
5. Ensure that the public sees much of the "association" with the group and mention often its particular affinity for the political position you dislike;
6. Demonise them thoroughly, to the point where the political position becomes associated in the minds of the public with strange, lunatical people and hideous and unspeakable crimes; and, finally
7. Push through laws that are designed to "protect" people from evil monsters such as these.

Power solidified, and none the wiser.

Would you not agree, Asher?

Anonymous TheVillageIdiotRet January 24, 2013 7:27 PM  

Just as the Japanese have their Kabuki,
Americans have their Hokie Pokie.

The Good Cop, Bad Cop.
Left Wing,Right Wing political con job.
(There are no good Cops.)
100 years of government brain washing by the American government brain washing machines.
(The American televisions,Newspapers,and college professors)
Five Generations of government brainwashed “Stupid American Puppets”.
Of the 5 generations of Stupid American Puppets,I voted for the hippie boomers as the Super SAPs.
(Went to Washington DC as anti establishment,came back as dancing puppets and stooges of the establishment.)
So yes my friends that IS what it's all about.

LEFT WING:

You put your left wing in
You put your left wing out
You put your left wing in,
and you shake it all about,

You do the Hokie Pokie
and you turn yourself around
That what it's all about.


RIGHT WING:

You put your right wing in
You put your right wing out
You put your right wing in,
and you shake it all about,

You do the Hokie Pokie
and you turn yourself around
That what it's all about.


DannyR

Anonymous map January 24, 2013 7:41 PM  

No one seems to be answering the question I put forth above: Why would the Republicans want to be the subordinate entity within the Kabuki theater instead of running the Kabuki show?

It seems Lawrence Auster's take on Republicans being too liberal is a better explanation than a conspiracy.

Anonymous map January 24, 2013 7:41 PM  

In other words, who volunteers to be a patsy in a conspiracy?

Anonymous Equestrian025 January 24, 2013 9:57 PM  

Eh, the church needs both evangelists and theologians.

Anonymous Anonymous January 24, 2013 10:36 PM  

Your German sucks dude

N5

Anonymous Tad January 24, 2013 10:44 PM  

@Vox Day

there is not a real two-party system in the USA, there is merely one ruling party with two cooperative factions.

Well, this is just silly.

Tell that to the Democrats that saw nearly complete obstruction from Republicans. Tell that to Democrats who can't get judicial nominees even into a hearing, let alone a vote. Tell that to Democrats who barely passed ANY of their agenda after 2010.

This notion of "one party" is just the whining you hear when a person's most favored party doesn't completely stop the other party or when it's members don't throw themselves on the pike at every opportunity.

It's terrible to have to say, but Grow Up.

Anonymous Tad January 24, 2013 11:12 PM  

@Gen Kong

That's absurd. The vampire squids, Sheldon Adelson and the like still own the Repuke party. They'd never allow Paul the nomination - not even if 90% of the Republicans voted for him

Adelson couldn't get Gingrich nominated. He couldn't get Romney elected. I wouldn't give him that much credit.

If Paul runs, and then loses--as he most certainly will--it will because folks noticed he's an empty shirt who can't lead. Not because Adelson the Billionaire Paperweight didn't want him elected.

Anonymous Asher January 24, 2013 11:32 PM  

@ Gen Kong

the abolition of the second amendment

No, their objective is annihilating western civilization and replacing it with leftist utopianism.

The second amendment was abolished when gun advocates started to claim that gun ownership was about shooting deer and defending themselves against home invaders. They are incorrect, as the right to bear arms is about overthrowing the government should the need arise. It's either one or the other, but not both; if the right is an individual one then it cannot be about defending oneself from government as only large bodies of well-armed citizens can achieve that objective.

Here's a little Valentine for Pro-lifers from your friends in Obamaland. Four solid decades of voting Repuke - and this is your reward. Happy 40th anniversary!

Not sure what you want done about abortion. A pro life movement only makes sense for a devout, god-fearing people. In any other context a pro life movement is claiming the authority to impose God's law on the government of men, and that is an authority they cannot ever have.

The pro-life movement, as it exists in the US, is a heresy.

Anonymous Koanic January 24, 2013 11:35 PM  

Loki, damn you: Never flinch. It's just like the movie said. You lack conviction.

After watching The Avengers together, I pointed out that Loki's rule would be an improvement.

There was heated disagreement. We got no further than the "stationary bandits" concept.

He insisted that people would always "fight for freedom," even against overwhelming force.

I frowned, my hand concealing the pain spasming across my lowered brow, and said slowly, "I think you're smarter than that."

I was wrong.

He works on Wall Street.

Anonymous Asher January 24, 2013 11:41 PM  

@ Loki

I was unaware that Loki meant "Rabbit of Asgard". Newsflash: they already demonize you and the more you cower the worse it will become. There are only three possible futures in the US:

A) Conservatives give up without a fight and either get relegated to complete obscurity or are exterminated by the left
B) A bloody civil war killing tens of millions
C) A peaceful political divorce.

In the case of "B" it will start out bloody and degenerate into killing noncombatants. That's how civil wars tend to go. I'm just pointing this out, and conservatives cowering to avoid being called a "nazi" is just going to encourage the left to further demonize you.

Look, if someone calls me "evil", aka "nazi", I assume one thing about them: that they want to exterminate me. I'm just throwing it back in their face, making explicit what they make implicit.

You seem to be misrepresenting my position which is what will be required to win should a war break out.

Anonymous dh January 25, 2013 12:39 AM  

If only. This incestuous little love-in should make it obvious that the GOP isn't interested in getting anybody or doing anything that their so-called "principles" would require. The media certainly runs interference for the Democrats, but the truth is that the Republicans let them because they really don't care.

I don't agree with that - I think the GOP is trying, they just aren't very good at it. Sometimes they are great with messaging, but the last 4-5 years, they are losing the messaging wars, badly.

The real truth is that 8-years of Pres. GW Bush has basically destroyed the Republican brand. Every person who really knows the budget knows that the GOP has no credibility on it. All of these people talking about budget cuts were the same ones who folded over and voted for unfunded wars, tax cuts built on debt, discretionary spending increases after 9/11 for the security state, and pork up the ying-yang. Everyone of the Right's favorites have support this stuff in the past, presently, or will shortly. From Rep. Paul Ryan straight through the entire caucus.

So that leaves the Tea Party, which is basically an effort to rebrand the party under a new product name.

The House GOP could balance the budget this year. All they have to do is balance it, pass the budget, and move on. Either the Senate and White House take it up, pass it, and sign it into law, or the government shuts down. This whole thing could be over in a few months.

But that's only if the GOP really means it. And we know, of course, they don't.

Anonymous Tad January 25, 2013 1:25 AM  

@Asher


A) Conservatives give up without a fight and either get relegated to complete obscurity or are exterminated by the left
B) A bloody civil war killing tens of millions
C) A peaceful political divorce.


What's your predicted time frame for any of these three things occurring?

Anonymous Tad January 25, 2013 1:27 AM  

@dh


The House GOP could balance the budget this year. All they have to do is balance it, pass the budget, and move on. Either the Senate and White House take it up, pass it, and sign it into law, or the government shuts down. This whole thing could be over in a few months.


You left one thing out....The voters.

The GOP would take all the blame when the democrats offer a moderate compromise and the GOP keeps their backs to the walls and refuse it. They would be run out of Washington, replaced by moderate republicans and Democrats and the Dems would pass whatever they wanted.

In other words, Damn....I wish the GOP would do that.

Anonymous Jack Amok January 25, 2013 2:22 AM  

No one seems to be answering the question I put forth above: Why would the Republicans want to be the subordinate entity within the Kabuki theater instead of running the Kabuki show?

I'll answer it, and I'll even use heirarchy theory to do it.

You have three broad philosophical groups - liberals, conservatives, and libertarians. Each group has Alphas and Betas (as well as all the rest, but it's the As and Bs we're concerned with here). In each group, the Alphas pursue power in a manner befitting the group's philosophy. Betas fill in the gaps around the alphas, taking on important work that their Alphas feel is unworthy.

Liberals love government, so Liberal Alphas run for office and their Betas become bureacrats.

Conservatives love churchess, so their Alphas start megachurches and their Betas run for political office.

Libertarians love enterprise, so their Alphas start companies, and their Betas go work for their Alphas.

Thus, in politics you have Liberal Alphas, Conservative Betas, and almost no Libertarians. That's why GOP politicians in D.C. are willing to be Junior Banannas to the Dems - they're Betas and perfectly content to be on the outer edge of the inner ciricle, so long as they get invited to the dance.

Anonymous Asher January 25, 2013 3:12 AM  

@ The Rabbit of Asgard, aka Loki

Push through laws that are designed to "protect" people from evil monsters

Ah, here's your problem. You acquiesce to the term "evil".

Why were Adam and Eve expelled from the Garden? Because they aspired to knowledge of good and evil, a jurisdiction which is God's and His alone. You don't get to sit in judgement on what is good and what is evil until God gives the believers that authority on Judgement Day. Until that time your only judgement is on what is good and bad, not good and evil, and any judgement you make that someone is evil is a usurpation of God's authority.

In my experience, authorities tend to get cross when you try and usurp their rightful place.

When you call someone "evil", even Hitler, you are just another iteration of the first sin way back in the garden where Adam and Eve pretended to the throne of knowledge of good and evil.

How do you tell who is in power? They get to designate what is deemed good and what is deemed evil. If your designations are not in sway then you are not in power. If you are not in power then why would you offer any heed at all to those designations, as you are merely empowering your enemies?

Anyone who uses the term "evil" is a rabbit.

Rabbit.

Anonymous Hong Hu Shi January 25, 2013 4:54 AM  

And so, Asher and Tad arrive to crap all over another comment thread. Huzzah.

Anonymous Asher January 25, 2013 6:03 AM  

@ Hong Hu Shi

Echo chamber, much? Rabbit?

Anonymous Hong Hu Shi January 25, 2013 7:02 AM  

@ Asher

Yeah, keep up the "rabbit" attack against everyone who is tired of your predictable nattering. It proves you're right! Go tell your mom you totally called some random stranger a "rabbit"; she'll be very proud.

Anonymous the abe January 25, 2013 7:59 AM  

Rest easy, Rush's "moment of clarity" (as the A.A. manual defines it) will evaporate just as soon as the light of stern morning sun rises on Republican power again.

Anonymous the abe January 25, 2013 8:02 AM  

Rush Limbaugh and the other brothel of whores in the new media did more to destroy the future of this country in the eight years of Gee Dubya's reign than 16 + 16 years of Barry, Bubba, and Hillary combined ever could.

Anonymous Asher January 25, 2013 10:59 AM  

@ Hong Hu Shi

The reason I called you rabbit is that you cannot distinguish between Tad and myself. Tad is a big bear and I am a loud truck driving past on the interstate. Look at the king cuomo thread where a bunch of idiots are reduced to diagnosing me with Aspergers

Anonymous Asher January 25, 2013 10:59 AM  

@ Hong Hu Shi

The reason I called you rabbit is that you cannot distinguish between Tad and myself. Tad is a big bear and I am a loud truck driving past on the interstate. Look at the king cuomo thread where a bunch of idiots are reduced to diagnosing me with Aspergers

Anonymous Asher January 25, 2013 11:07 AM  

@ Tad

What's your predicted time frame for any of these three things occurring?

More than fifteen years, fewer than thirty-five.

They would be run out of Washington, replaced by moderate republicans and Democrats and the Dems would pass whatever they wanted.

Not if they passed the right budget. If they passed a pro-white budget that would not get them run out of Washington. I could craft a rough outline alone within a few thousand hours.

Anonymous Loki of Asgard January 25, 2013 12:32 PM  

Ah, here's your problem. You acquiesce to the term "evil".

Yes. Yes, that was my point. I was talking about outlawing you personally, you naughty thing. I had no wider point that anyone with a brain larger than a lentil could immediately comprehend.

Please, keep exposing me for the charlatan I am. The levity is needed in these dark days.

Anonymous Conrad The Crazed January 25, 2013 12:54 PM  

I'm with JCB on this. Rush is laying the groundwork to increase libertarian-leaning listenership in the runup to 2016, where he will once again 'pied-piper' them into voting for Red Team Candidate X. The guy makes $20 million yearly, he's not about to risk his 'golden eib microphone' empire. As long as the Red vs. Blue Olympics continue, Rush keeps raking in the moola. Why would he do anything to defuse such a fictional yet profitable contest? (Same reason the NRA will never truly work to restore the full scope and breadth of the 2nd Amendment, but continue compromising a little here and there).

The true moment of truth for me was his position regarding Ron Paul in 2008 (re-confirmed again in 2012). The one candidate in a lifetime who literally lives and practices every facet of conservatism, and good Ol' El Rushbo treated him like some fringe kook loser wannabe.

Rush is a slightly more tolerable GOP media whore than Sean Vanity, but nothing more.

Anonymous FP January 25, 2013 2:38 PM  

Limbaugh has been leaning this way for a couple of years now. As others have said, I think much of it is based on watching where his listeners are leaning and competition from other sources like Jones, Beck, etc..

Anonymous Asher January 25, 2013 3:09 PM  

@ Loki, the Rabbit of Asgard

I was talking about outlawing you personally, you naughty thing. I had no wider point that anyone with a brain larger than a lentil could immediately comprehend.

What would it even mean to "outlaw" a person? That doesn't even make any sense, it's a category mistake, pure nonsense.

I apologize for assuming that you were talking anything but nonsense.

Anonymous Daniel January 25, 2013 4:17 PM  

Outlaw: verb. To ban, make illegal, proscribe.

That guy kept coming around drunk and waving his guns around, so the Sheriff outlawed him.

I realize that such language requires a level of study and attention not seen lo these many years since the cancellation of Gunsmoke, but really, Agent Asher. Even they PC dictionary in the unisex humans washroom at the Department of Education has a listing for "outlaw."

Or perhaps you aren't authorized for vowel-level clearance yet. Either way, this should help.

You are welcome.

Anonymous Loki of Asgard January 25, 2013 4:37 PM  

What would it even mean to "outlaw" a person? That doesn't even make any sense, it's a category mistake, pure nonsense.

I apologize for assuming that you were talking anything but nonsense.


Ah, no, you need not apologise. Everyone knows that if Asher does not comprehend something, it cannot have any meaning. Forgive me, instead, for not conforming to your expectations, O mighty arbiter of reality, whose intellect is the marvel of mankind.

Anonymous Gen. Kong January 25, 2013 5:01 PM  

the abe:
Rush Limbaugh and the other brothel of whores in the new media did more to destroy the future of this country in the eight years of Gee Dubya's reign than 16 + 16 years of Barry, Bubba, and Hillary combined ever could.

This is a good point. dh also mentioned this earlier in the thread. Now, why is it that a failed Repuke elite (the Bush/Rove/McCain/Mittens wing of the party) remain so completely in control of it despite their obvious track record of disaster? dh ascribes it to "stupidity", while VD and others here (including me) ascribe it to their being a phony opposition party - a nominal faction of the single ruling party, who are employees/shills of the the squid overlords. If the system were not completely rigged, nobody this totally incompetent and stupid would remain in complete control for decades.

Anonymous E. PERLINE January 25, 2013 6:49 PM  

Most talk show hosts have two or three issues in their pokes and use them as subjects for hours. Rush Limbaugh has dozens of such questions to bring up and that is what makes him unique. The problem is that most of his followers aren't exactly firebrands.

Rush has two blind spots in his vision. He never mentions the secret societies and he never mentions the conspiracies of the big banks.

Hillary Clinton is neither smart nor dumb. She is a woman, like Oprah Winfrey or Martha Stewart. Few other women will vote aganst such objects of status.

Speaking of vision, I read in today's Drudge Report that Hillary has new eyeglasses to correct double vision. I studied problems of the brain and remember that double vision was sometimes a symptom of multiple sclerosis.

Anonymous Saint Revolution January 25, 2013 7:33 PM  

C'mon. Limbaugh has always been the fat sack of shit in the pocket of the media company paying his contract salary. Limbaugh was never anything but entertainment and any idiot who gives him any credit beyond being a marionette dancer has a brain as puffy, bloated, and doughy as Limbaugh himself. I know people who swear by Rush Limbaugh and don't do any research beyond what this fat sack of shit regurgitates on a daily basis. This idiot, like all the rest, dances around and never addresses the fact(s) of the freemason led covert one world order shadow government cancer infecting Washington D.C. It is ALL broken beyond repair and there is only one solution left and that is revolution...coming for the kill. The corrupt ballot box is broken beyond repair, the electoral college is a joke that NEVER served The People, the supreme court has needed to go for decades (the country's fate left in the hands of a gaggle of stinky old prick sham judges late for the grave?!), and the fucking freemason cocksuckers...well, what can I say about the devils minions?!

Blogger James Dixon January 25, 2013 9:55 PM  

> Dumb people don't make good shysters.

And where exactly did I say she was dumb, Junior?

> Consider two surgeons in the same field where one is better than the other. What differentiates them? Intellect.

Surgeons are not shysters.

Anonymous Jeff January 27, 2013 10:21 PM  

The ruling class versus the country class. This is the issue of our time. The ruling class needs to go.


http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2010/07/19/the_ruling_class_big_clique_and_why_don_t_the_republicans_do_x

http://spectator.org/archives/2010/07/16/americas-ruling-class-and-the/print

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