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Wednesday, January 23, 2013

Women to the front lines

Tell me again about how the People will never be able to resist the assembled might of the US military?
Women in all branches of the military soon will have unprecedented opportunities to serve on the front lines of the nation's wars.

Leon Panetta, in one of his last acts as President Obama's defense secretary, is preparing to announce the policy change, which would open hundreds of thousands of front-line positions and potentially elite commando jobs after more than a decade at war, the Pentagon confirmed Wednesday.

The groundbreaking move recommended by the Joint Chiefs of Staff overturns a 1994 rule banning women from being assigned to smaller ground combat unit
Between the reduced female capacity for fighting and the inevitable dissension and lack of unit cohesion that will result from putting women into front-line companies and commando units, I can only conclude that this is ultimately a positive development for long-term American freedom.  Give it enough time and the military will go the way of the Fortune 500 companies, HR commissars will be assigned to each unit, and the combat rifle will be replaced with a lighter .22 caliber carbine that comes in fashionable teal, mauve, and eggshell.

To be honest, I'd like to see the Obama take it even farther and make it an all-female military.  Somewhere, there is a Chinese general reading his tablet and laughing.

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Anonymous Edjamacator January 23, 2013 4:46 PM  

Oh, I don't know.....haven't the women trying out for firefighters and the like proven they can handle the same physical stresses as men? It's not like they have to sue to have the requirements lowered or anything, while screaming "grrrrl power," right?

Blogger Giraffe January 23, 2013 4:46 PM  

You must not watch enough movies. Bitches kick ass.

Anonymous dh January 23, 2013 4:47 PM  

Somewhere, there is a Chinese general reading his tablet and laughing.
Are you sure about this? I was quite sure there were entire Chineese infrantry units that were of conscripted and volunteer women. I could have sworn I saw such a formation during a trip to Zhengzhou. But they may have been non-combat I suppose?

Anonymous Noah B. January 23, 2013 4:49 PM  

Affirmative action for women and gays in the military: don't just support it, demand it!

Anonymous Salt January 23, 2013 4:50 PM  

Be one way to get women to the women-less Chinese.

Anonymous TheVillageIdiotRet January 23, 2013 4:51 PM  

Is there anyone left in the world,who isn't laughing at Stupid Americans?

DannyR

Anonymous WinstonWebb January 23, 2013 4:51 PM  

...[a]nd the other issue in her mind was she was afraid she was going to be raped -terrified that she was going to be raped. That's always the first concern of women.

What could possibly go wrong?

Anonymous Anda January 23, 2013 4:52 PM  

@Edjamacator @dh

There is a difference between a small amount of high testoterone women and a large amount of chit-chatting chickens.

For the record, even though is should be obvious, if the military was filled with low testoterone men, it would be just as bad.

Blogger Giraffe January 23, 2013 4:52 PM  

I can only conclude that women were confused, and thought that "women to the front lines" meant "women to the front of the line".

Anonymous Jimmy January 23, 2013 4:53 PM  

This will help with low fertility of our military forces.

Blogger Log January 23, 2013 4:53 PM  

I'm not sure what it matters - the women are merely following their paycheck, just like Vox.

Anonymous robh January 23, 2013 4:55 PM  

I imagine they will make Ranger school look like your typical Basic training unit with dozens of female trainees on profile hobbling around on crutches.

Anonymous Noah B. January 23, 2013 4:57 PM  

"Give it enough time and the military will go the way of the Fortune 500 companies, HR commissars will be assigned to each unit, and the combat rifle will be replaced with a lighter .22 caliber carbine that comes in fashionable teal, mauve, and eggshell."

Guns are so outdated anyway. Who needs them? Everyone knows that wars of the future will be fought with computers. The female blogger-soldiers of the future will be able to do more damage to their enemies by cutting and pasting a few choice words and phrases than their predecessors in the armored cavalry ever imagined possible. These fierce warriors will never stop fighting RSHD types for social justice at every turn.

Forward!

Anonymous Mr. Nightstick January 23, 2013 5:00 PM  

It's all fun and games till they draft our daughters.

Anonymous SlackAttack January 23, 2013 5:01 PM  

If only we could get Leon Pannettas hideous wife down on the front lines..the poor Afghanis would never have left their caves.

Anonymous kh123 January 23, 2013 5:01 PM  

Someone close to the family who had served point in the Ardennes during the Bulge told my dad of his encounter with - I want to say Wehrmacht, but it might have been SS Panzer - during one up-close encounter. Said the German he struggled with and ultimately stabbed to death turned out to be a woman. This apparently was how desperate certain sectors were for manpower near the end.

Anonymous WinstonWebb January 23, 2013 5:02 PM  

Noah B. January 23, 2013 4:57 PM
The female blogger-soldiers of the future will be able to do more damage to their enemies by cutting and pasting a few choice words and phrases than their predecessors in the armored cavalry ever imagined possible.


Super Soldier?

Anonymous Stickwick January 23, 2013 5:02 PM  

It's not like they have to sue to have the requirements lowered or anything ...

It'll be interesting to see if that happens with the SF units. A woman sued to be admitted to my husband's SF unit (in a foreign military). Since the .gov forced them to allow her, they made her train like the rest of the men. She was a big, aggressive man-jawed creature, and thought she was pretty tough -- she didn't last two weeks.

Let these women get a dose of reality.

Anonymous A Visitor January 23, 2013 5:02 PM  

I think this Marine should be a cautionary tale to any woman contemplating 0300 or 11B.

As a friend said over the weekend (one who served as an 11B in OEF at that), "Why do they want to be equal to us in every way?" We all know they'll lower the standards, too. If there were any men left in flag officer positions, they should retire en masse to protest this absurdity. Ah, whom am I kidding? They won't. A man can dream though.

Anonymous Anonymous January 23, 2013 5:03 PM  

Chicks with guns - mmmmmmmmmmmmmm. Defending me? No thanks. Coming on to me? Definitely! I do wonder if they might make a subunit of Delta force or the SEALs. Imagine the PR! Imagine the humor watching the women try to bang out their 600th pushup in BUDs. . .Might make for great TV!

Anonymous dh January 23, 2013 5:03 PM  

You must not watch enough movies. Bitches kick ass.

The only movie I have ever seen where this was properly addressed was Haywire. Gina Carano dispatches smaller and lighter opponents in hand-to-hand - namely Ewan McGregor and Michael Fassbender - in closely fought matches. She really only wins because of better technique and willingness to fight as hard/dirty as necessary.

When she is overmatched, or evenly matched, like against Channing Tatum (in terms of strength and size), she is wounded and only does not become incapacitated because of an ineffective white knight bystander, and a better training, plus asymetry in mission (escape vs. detention).

The rest of her hand-to-hand is either concluded at a stand still, or resolved via guile or outside forces.

In all of the armed forces, if there are a dozen women like Gina Carano, we can expect about a dozen women to be evenely matched to an average man.

Anonymous Edjamacator January 23, 2013 5:04 PM  

@Anda

Yeah, my point was women trying out for "manly" positions tend to need to have the requirements lowered in order to "prove" they can do the job. They don't see how needing to sue in order to get the job through lowered standards shows they really can't do it. My post was sarcastic.

Is there anyone left in the world,who isn't laughing at Stupid Americans?

You mean besides Stupid Americans, DannyR?

Blogger Duke of Earl January 23, 2013 5:05 PM  

It'll be interesting to see if that happens with the SF units. A woman sued to be admitted to my husband's SF unit (in a foreign military). Since the .gov forced them to allow her, they made her train like the rest of the men. She was a big, aggressive man-jawed creature, and thought she was pretty tough -- she didn't last two weeks.

Let these women get a dose of reality.


Not a bad idea Stickwick. Perhaps the quickest cure for feminism is to stop trying to protect women from themselves. Let them go and die in the mud, work 80+ hours a week, lug steel and swing heavy hammers.

Give them a few years of having to fend for themselves and maybe they'll appreciate what we do for them.

Anonymous Ridip January 23, 2013 5:07 PM  

Coupled with eggplant and raspberry berets.

The enemy should be very afraid 3 days out of the month.

Anonymous Noah B. January 23, 2013 5:08 PM  

"Let these women get a dose of reality."

We're better than that, Stickwick. We have the power to change reality.

Blogger W.LindsayWheeler January 23, 2013 5:09 PM  

We are such dumbshits.

Americans need the word "Moron" branded on their foreheads.

Anonymous Daniel January 23, 2013 5:14 PM  

This makes me so happy. Thin out the ranks of feminized women, weaken the foreign military presence, and provide the rebels with an enemy that just shot its own foot.

I can't wait until Seal Team Xena tries to lock down the local Walmart. It's gonna look like John Candy vs. the mudwrestling gals.

Anonymous Johnycomelately January 23, 2013 5:15 PM  

I guess engined mules to carry infantry squad equipment will be on DARPAs high priority list now.

Anonymous Stickwick January 23, 2013 5:15 PM  

Perhaps the quickest cure for feminism is to stop trying to protect women from themselves. Let them go and die in the mud, work 80+ hours a week, lug steel and swing heavy hammers.

My husband is Finnish, and he says that this particular broad who wanted in the SF was not aware that the prohibition on women in the Finnish military was brought about by women, who asked not to be included in combat troops after WWII. As someone else pointed out, when things got desperate in Europe during the war, there were women who had to engage violently. They knew the reality of war, and didn't want any part of it ever again. I guess women have to learn from the same mistakes over and over.

Anonymous Anonymoose January 23, 2013 5:16 PM  

The biggest problem with women in the military is that men will become less interested in fighting. The purpose of male exclusive professions is to provide men with a space to be men, and acquire status, while women get a large portion of their status by default.

If you don't believe me, consider the change of status in formally male dominate professions as women start to move in. The Last Psychiatrist brings this up in his latest post.

Anonymous dh January 23, 2013 5:16 PM  

Not a bad idea Stickwick. Perhaps the quickest cure for feminism is to stop trying to protect women from themselves. Let them go and die in the mud, work 80+ hours a week, lug steel and swing heavy hammers.

It's not a bad solution; for the 0.5% to 1% of women who are physically/mentally equal to an average or slightly below average man, it will be fine. The rest will wash out.

It only becomes a problem when the standards are further eroded to conform results to the mean...

Anonymous Loki of Asgard January 23, 2013 5:19 PM  

Excellent. Entire battalions of your soldiers will not merely kneel, but swoon before me.

I see no downside to this.

Anonymous Edjamacator January 23, 2013 5:23 PM  

@Loki

No downside? Well, just wait til you see a few of them.

Anonymous Other Josh January 23, 2013 5:25 PM  

Now we know how Obama will get the US military to fire upon US civilians on US soil. Women obey orders from authority so much better than stubborn men.

Anonymous CMC January 23, 2013 5:27 PM  

B-b-but it worked for Stirling's Nantucketers!

Anonymous Loki of Asgard January 23, 2013 5:32 PM  

No downside? Well, just wait til you see a few of them.

I said nothing of touching them. I just expect it will be easier to conquer you all if they are busy gawping at me like poleaxed oxen.

Anonymous Edjamacator January 23, 2013 5:35 PM  

I said nothing of touching them. I just expect it will be easier to conquer you all if they are busy gawping at me like poleaxed oxen.

Drat. Was kind of curious to see what a myriad of STD's did to a god.

Anonymous gwood January 23, 2013 5:38 PM  

"combat rifle will be replaced with a lighter .22 caliber carbine..."
US combat rifles are already .22 caliber.

Anonymous FrankBrady January 23, 2013 5:39 PM  

This is a felony stupid. Can't tell from here whether this is just to screw up the military or if its part of the broader assault on what little remains of bourgeois morality and culture. I can just see some 120 pound GI Jane carrying her 240 pound male platoon mate out of the line of fire. By the way, what is the pregnancy rate in the Navy?

Blogger Giraffe January 23, 2013 5:40 PM  

US combat rifles are already .22 caliber.

True. Stoner must have been way ahead of his time. He designed the perfect combat rifle for women.

Anonymous Styrcar January 23, 2013 5:40 PM  

Reportedly BUDS has been cut from 26 weeks to 21, and there are no longer any winter classes. One wonders if this is a prelude to making SEAL training easy enough so at least a few specially chosen women will be able get through it.

Blogger Giraffe January 23, 2013 5:41 PM  

By the way, what is the pregnancy rate in the Navy?

My brother said they ran prostitution rings on some of the carriers.

Anonymous Odegra January 23, 2013 5:41 PM  

Good luck with the sex abuse cases. If anyone thinks the Air Force Academy is bad let's see what happens when some little broad gets dropped into the middle of fifty sex starved eighteen year old grunts at Fort Bragg. There will be a Matthew Shepard once a month. What then?

Anonymous CrisisEraDynamo January 23, 2013 5:47 PM  

Playing devil's advocate here...

Can anyone name any actual examples of women bungling it so much that we shouldn't include them in combat roles? I am aware that the physical training requirements have been lowered for them, but women are already seeing combat, since war doesn't respect boundaries.

How do we know for sure that women can't hack it?

Anonymous Signe January 23, 2013 5:47 PM  

Drat. Was kind of curious to see what a myriad of STD's did to a god.

I'm not.

What? I'd have to be calling in his prescriptions all day. That's just weird.

Anonymous Signe January 23, 2013 5:48 PM  

Can anyone name any actual examples of women bungling it so much that we shouldn't include them in combat roles?

Jessica Lynch.

Blogger W.LindsayWheeler January 23, 2013 5:50 PM  

The commentator "A Visitor" posts a link to Capt Katie Petronio's experiencies in combat and the consequences of that. Ultimately, as she states herself, she is infertile due to the conditions of combat. She will never become a physical mother. She can not pass on her genes.

Don't you think the General Staff of the US Military know of this article and the consequences of environmental and situational conditions of combat on females?

Liberals, like Leon Panneta, do not really care about FACTS. FACTS are not to be paid attention to. What matters is feelings, compassion and the Marxist agenda. All the FACTS and personal experiences such as the Captain's is not going to change anything. They don't care about facts.

This should be an eye-opener to all The Ilk out there and to Vox, liberals can NOT be reasoned with because reason and FACTS will NOT work on them. Second, the US Military General Staff are all politically correct whores. They are in on the game. They are communist.

This putting women in combat units is Marxist.

If the General Staff that went to fighting commies 50 years ago to becoming commies themselves is very frightening.

We are on a collision course with idiots. And some of those idiots have four to five stars on their shoulders.

Reason and Logic and Facts do NOT matter anymore. There is no more a rule of law anymore. It is every man for himself. It is all going to hell quickly.

Anonymous Noah B. January 23, 2013 5:52 PM  

"This should be an eye-opener to all The Ilk out there and to Vox, liberals can NOT be reasoned with because reason and FACTS will NOT work on them."

Gee, none of us ever thought about it that way.

Anonymous Stickwick January 23, 2013 5:53 PM  

One wonders if this is a prelude to making SEAL training easy enough so at least a few specially chosen women will be able get through it.

Ugh. Then they'd have to rename it the Very Special Forces. Or maybe the Precious Forces.

Blogger The Aardvark January 23, 2013 5:56 PM  

I do not understand the proggie women's drooling over this. FaceBook is awash with Happiness. Are they so discontented with their Roe v. Wade death juggernaut, that they wish to extend it now to their own hirsute, Birkenstocked selves?

Oh, hope everyone had a happy Roe v. Wade Day!

Anonymous Josh January 23, 2013 5:58 PM  

Snowflake Forces

Anonymous Lysander Spooner January 23, 2013 6:00 PM  

Jenny get ur gun, ur EEEKwal now grrrrl !!!!
U go grrrls, get on the front line for these phony and fallacious wars of Empire.

Point of fact: WWII : male casualties US=418,500 (99.998%)
female casualties US=543 (0.001%)

Put them grrrrrls on the front lines I say, you have lots of catching up to get ur Eeeekwalitee !!

Anonymous Steve Canyon January 23, 2013 6:01 PM  

Kelly Flinn and Kara Hultgreen immediately come to mind when it comes to females and combat. One went splat when she tried to sideslip a Tomcat, and the other lied to a superior officer when she told him she ended the affair she was having with the husband of a subordinate.

Both were combat qualified.

Anonymous Lysander Spooner January 23, 2013 6:01 PM  

Can anyone name any actual examples of women bungling it so much that we shouldn't include them in combat roles?

Hitlery Clinton.

Anonymous 11B January 23, 2013 6:04 PM  

Although I can no longer find the original article from May 2003, here is a reprint of an article by one Kirsten Scharnberg of the Chicago Tribune, entitled A Woman Goes to War in a Man's World, in which she recounts her experiences in Iraq as an embedded reporter with the Army's 101st Airborne Division. The article is not that long and it is surprising in her admission that she could not hack the infantry even though had participated in a marathon before the war. She points out how the infantrymen had to carry their equipment PLUS her own camera equipment just so she could keep up.

Here is an excerpt. You may read the rest online.

Back in Chicago recently, the Tribune had a welcome-home party for a bunch of us who had covered the war. A female editor asked me whether my experience had given me an opinion about putting female soldiers into the infantry and on the front lines.

I told her about the car battery and also about the many times I watched big, tough, burly male soldiers nearly collapse during 10-kilometer hikes with rucksacks, ammunition, TOW missiles, radios and machine guns.

I'm not qualified to say that no woman could do that job, but I suspect that it would be a rare one who could. I had run a marathon not long before the war and worked out almost every day. I grew up on an Iowa farm where manual labor was part of the bargain. But I had been bested by a car battery, and when I handed my load to that soldier, I admitted that I never could have cut it in the Infantry.

Anonymous Porky January 23, 2013 6:04 PM  

Special Forces training will now include Zumba classes, Tae-Bo, and Cardio Kickboxing.

Anonymous cheddarman January 23, 2013 6:06 PM  

Even less of a reason to be afraid of the government.

sincerely

cheddarman

Anonymous Loki of Asgard January 23, 2013 6:07 PM  

What? I'd have to be calling in his prescriptions all day.

Not to mention your own.

Anonymous Signe January 23, 2013 6:12 PM  

Why are you being such a jerk to me today, sir?

Anonymous Hoss January 23, 2013 6:12 PM  

Special forces indicates that those soldiers find themselves exceptional to the rest of their military comrades, that's simply unacceptable in today's PC culture.

And women shouldn't rest until they're all mandated to register with the Selective Service. Equal Rights/Equal Justice. Go get 'em girls.

Anonymous realmatt January 23, 2013 6:14 PM  

Ahem...GI JAAAANE, ANYONE??

/thread

Anonymous feral1404 January 23, 2013 6:14 PM  

With all apologies to the great writer (but I couldn't resist the germane riffing):

"If you want a vision of the future, imagine a Jimmy Choo stamping on a human face - forever."

- George Orwell

Anonymous Loki of Asgard January 23, 2013 6:14 PM  

What part of "god of lies, god of mischief" were you unclear about, Signe?

But enough. Go prepare your offering of brownies.

Anonymous Anonymous January 23, 2013 6:16 PM  

OK all y'all manosphere MRA types. The foundation is set, now its time to show your MRA chops:

selective Service being male only is currently upheld by Rosker v. Goldberg:

The majority opinion stated:

[t]he existence of the combat restrictions clearly indicates the basis for Congress' decision to exempt women from registration. The purpose of registration was to prepare for a draft of combat troops. Since women are excluded from combat, Congress concluded that they would not be needed in the event of a draft, and therefore decided not to register them.

This majority opinion is clearly no longer valid. So, show your MRA cred and start the process, END SELECTIVE SERVICE DISCRIMINATION TODAY, support legislative reform, bring it to the supreme court!

Anonymous tiarosa January 23, 2013 6:20 PM  

The next time some family member or friend posts some "support the troops" crap on Facebook, I'll probably tell them what I think instead of staying quiet like I have been.

Blogger ray January 23, 2013 6:23 PM  

"To be honest, I'd like to see the Obama take it even farther and make it an all-female military"


the u.s. is Womans Nation, and only the full-on deniers would suggest otherwise

their government, their coporations, their schools and suv's and jobs and courts and femilies, so let them fight for their cuntry

what would i be defending, exactly? my right to be a second class citizen subject to female whim in every aspect of my life?

heh

women want to be asskicking ninja warriors that karate-down Afghani Patriarchalists by the dozens, just like on teevee and movies? cant wait to watch

i'm just sorry the lives of good young men are still being thrown away to defend a nation that HATES them; they'll figure it out for themselves eventually tho

Anonymous Mr. Pea January 23, 2013 6:29 PM  

Actually, they are.

Meanwhile: Remember that unbelievable and outrageous Hilary Clinton conspiracy theory a few years ago that would allow China to buy up U.S. assets to satisfy our debt to them?

Forward Base Saboteurs.

Anonymous Daniel January 23, 2013 6:30 PM  

"To be honest, I'd like to see the Obama take it even farther and make it an all-female military"

I think of the bit in The Art of War when the concubine army gets the giggles. Then the commanding concubine gets her head cut off.

Notably, the army becomes quite fear-disciplined, yet they are never sent into combat.

Blogger W.LindsayWheeler January 23, 2013 6:34 PM  

When someone commented at another site that the movie "Inglorious Bastards" was Jewish porn, I then understood really what media is all about, or especially movies. Movies are "porn" to the culture that created it.

Why do we see so many movies out with women kicking men's butts? Why? It is Liberal porn! It feeds their sick mentalities. Even though no woman can take on a man in a street fight we have so many women taking out bunches of men that is so far from reality. It isn't even science fiction where fiction must have some "science" behind it.

Our media are feeding this women in combat hysteria. It is all just a sickness.

Anonymous BluntForceTrauma January 23, 2013 6:35 PM  

But, but in the MOVIES women always kick the butts of dieseled, action figure-type guys!

I done seen Angelina Jolie do it!

Anonymous BluntForceTrauma January 23, 2013 6:35 PM  

But, but in the MOVIES women always kick the butts of dieseled, action figure-type guys!

I done seen Angelina Jolie do it!

Anonymous feral1404 January 23, 2013 6:39 PM  

Steve Sailer's current post evinces his usual, astute points:

"But, so what? It's not like any of this matters in a practical sense. If more co-ed combat degrades American military performance, it's not like the Axis is going to win WWII, it's that a few more brave Americans will get killed in some inconclusive puttering around in Mali or wherever.


This kind of thing is like gay marriage: a symbolic war on the realities of biology."

heh

Anonymous RC January 23, 2013 6:47 PM  

It's all fun and games till they draft our daughters." Nightstick

Emigration will be the only solution.

Blogger Giraffe January 23, 2013 6:54 PM  

Hey, it's not like they are raising kids or anything.

Anonymous Mr. Pea January 23, 2013 6:58 PM  

Actually, it will serve its purpose. Send in a few woman to get raped and brutalized, and let the white knighting begin.

Trauma based predictive programming works. It worked on most of you. And you didn't even have to leave your couches.

Anonymous Daniel January 23, 2013 7:04 PM  

"But, so what? It's not like any of this matters in a practical sense. If more co-ed combat degrades American military performance, it's not like the Axis is going to win WWII, it's that a few more brave Americans will get killed in some inconclusive puttering around in Mali or wherever.


This kind of thing is like gay marriage: a symbolic war on the realities of biology."

The Starship Troopers movie (the book had no prominent women in infantry) wasn't far off. Co-eds fed to slaughter in a far-off, low grade everwar. Equality existed because excellence simply didn't matter.

Anonymous TLM January 23, 2013 7:05 PM  

I guess that fat Copenhagen dipping bull dyke medic assigned to my brigade in the 82nd back in 1988 will finally get her wish. She was always talking shit about not being allowed to jump with our Cav unit, and how "unfair" it was. It appears she was right, just 25 years too soon.

Anonymous Matt January 23, 2013 7:07 PM  

Women in combat will last until the first female POW gets the Daniel Pearl treatment on Youtube.

Anonymous TLM January 23, 2013 7:09 PM  

It would be interesting to see the American public's reaction to seeing pics of chick "soldiers" with their pussies blown apart from a Bouncing Betty or shred to pieces from a Claymore. Bet that nonsense of women in combat would end real quick.

Anonymous 11B January 23, 2013 7:20 PM  

During our discussions of gun bans, some suggested that the military would not cooperate with any gun confiscation plan. Others stated they'd follow orders.

Well if we see no resignations by senior officers and others, especially those in the combat arms, over this issue, then that pretty much answers the questions about whether you can trust the military to do the right thing. If a commander truly believes opening up the infantry will degrade the performance and put soldiers' lives at risk, you'd expect to see them balk or resign if necessary before carrying out such policy. Not that putting women into the infantry is illegal, but if you believe it is a mistaken, politically motivated action that jeopardizes the safety of your unit, you have an obligation to protest or resign if necessary.

The same thing could be said about allowing openly homosexual soldiers to serve. Back in 1993, Clinton faced serious blowback from the military and adopted don't ask don't tell instead. This time around, the military caved and eagerly followed through.

For those who think the military is on your side, don't count on it.

Blogger njartist January 23, 2013 7:20 PM  

Oh good! Now middle-aged men can go around handing out white feathers to young, single women. /s

Anonymous Cinco January 23, 2013 7:20 PM  

As a vet with 14 years in, I could care less. The army's war fighting capabilities are nonexistent. We can't win a war against people in mud huts, because we can't make the hard decisions. Our commanders are obsessed with hearts and minds, which is a recipe for nation building and empire. So I say welcome to the party girls, and when the next draft comes, my girls are going to Canada, not to bleed in the sand like my brothers.

Anonymous Curlytop January 23, 2013 7:21 PM  

TLM January 23, 2013 7:09 PM
"It would be interesting to see the American public's reaction to seeing pics of chick "soldiers" with their pussies blown apart from a Bouncing Betty or shred to pieces from a Claymore. Bet that nonsense of women in combat would end real quick."


Are you kidding? I don't think a good portion of the populace will bat an eye. With the selection of video games with the goal of mutilating a woman for points, the younger members of the male pop. will see this as a mere extension of the game.

Want women to love their mutilation? Cue Katy Perry and the like to glamorize the "sacrifice" they make to the "cause." We are already bombarded with the emot genre of seeing women abandon their kids for someone else to take care of while they are off being "the few, the proud," "an army of one," a "force for global good, " or whatever catch phrase is popular at the moment. Put a good spin on the torture and they'll sign up in droves...

Blogger Michael January 23, 2013 7:21 PM  

Now to rename 'Special Operations Command' to 'Solipsistic Operations Command'.

Anonymous Porky? January 23, 2013 7:26 PM  

Does Jenny Craig make MRE's?

Anonymous map January 23, 2013 7:28 PM  

Not a big deal. When called to deployment, most will get pregnant.

Blogger Pepper January 23, 2013 7:30 PM  

What next? Pregnant women? Children? Day care centers? And isn't particularly disgusting how the anti-rape brigade is actually encouraging it?

Anonymous nick digger January 23, 2013 7:31 PM  

Foxhole dialogue:
(bullets whizzing overhead)
"Aieee! I'm bleeding!!"
"Fuck! Are you hit?"
"Um, no..."

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President Obama = Entomb Paradise.
President Romney = Empty Senior Nerd.

Tried 'Ridip". No joy.

Anonymous castricv January 23, 2013 7:50 PM  

I can honestly not see any reason to oppose or publically berate these "progressive" decisions. No girl from a good home will ever join the military now and the negative effects on the military's morale and effectiveness will be the downfall of future progressive presidents. The powwrr girls that want to join up will be sectioning out quicker than you can imagine and those few girls who do inevitably die will leave such gruesome pictures that it will inevitably bring to a close whatever ridiculous war we get into next.

I have always gotten flack for being a partial fascist/part monarchist. The one good thing about this view is that the concentration of power clears up a lot of credit/blame when things work or don't work. Clearly, there is no way to power for the "real" right for the foreseable future so why not let them stew in their shittiness. Don't oppose things that you will ultimately lose only for those failed policies to wind up being blamed on you for halting aspects of its implementation or "watering them down". Let those lost sheep who are slaves to the tv see once and for all how stupid they have been and then they miight, just might come around.

It's time for patriots to realize that we are only helping to prop up a dead ship and the sooner it all burns down the better. We are patriots to the past, not this filth.

Anonymous Ridip January 23, 2013 7:53 PM  

The only logical reason for doing this is to destroy the effectiveness of the military.

Anonymous Barsad January 23, 2013 8:07 PM  

What do these fools think is going to happen when Pvt. Jane Smith and her female soldierettes are captured by some foreign military in China, Africa, or the Middle East? Do they imagine they'll be treated with respect, as opposed to being raped senseless? This type of bullshit is despicable. Its yet another sacrifice on the altar of Progressivism. No deaths are too many, no cause is too stupid, and no person is ever unequal.

Anonymous David January 23, 2013 8:10 PM  

As Joe Sobran put it back in his day...

If putting women into combat was such a great idea, why didn't Hannibal, Napoleon, Rommel, Patton, Alexander, Caesar or any other general of the past think of it?

Anonymous castricv January 23, 2013 8:12 PM  

See my earlier post and stop worrying or yelling about this like we live in a rational country worth saving. This is exactly what they want.

Anonymous Luke January 23, 2013 8:39 PM  

From "Women in the Military" by Brian Mitchell (1998):

p. 57-8: "The most common complaint heard from male cadets and midshipmen was that integration had lowered the academies' physical standards. Physically, the women simply could not keep up. The dropout rate on morning runs during West Point's "Beast Barracks" was 23 percent for women and less than 3 percent for men. In the seventh week of training, 26.3 percent of female cadets reported for physical "reconditioning" instead of the morning run, compared to 5.6 percent of men. Women reported for sick call an average of 6.8 times per female cadet, compared to the male average of 1.7 times. They suffered more than ten times as many stress fractures as men. Attrition during the first summer was 16 percent for women, 9.7 percent for men. Even after a year of regular physical training, West Point women in the first integrated class suffered five times as many injuries as men during field training. The following year, the injury rate for women in field training was fourteen times the rate for men.

p. 141-2: "Women's physical advantages are that they are less susceptible to altitude sickness and, normally, have a greater tolerance of cold temperatures due to their extra body fat. But by all other measures, men have enormous advantages physically. The average female Army recruit is 4.8 inches shorter, 31.7 pounds lighter, has 37.4 fewer pounds of muscle, and 5.7 more pounds of fat than the average male recruit. She has only 55 percent of the upper-body strength and 72 percent of the lower-body strength of the average male. She is also at a significant disadvantage when performing aerobic activities such as marching with heavy loads and working in the heat, since fat mass is inversely related to aerobic capacity and heat tolerance. Her lighter frame, moreover, makes her more likely to suffer injuries due to physical exertion. An Army study of 124 men and 186 women done in 1988 found that women are more than twice as likely to suffer leg injuries and nearly five times as likely to suffer fractures as men."

Anonymous Luke January 23, 2013 8:40 PM  

(Cont.)

"Tests of men and women entering the West Point class of 1980 found that, on average, the upper-body strength of women was 56 percent the strength of men, their leg strength 80 percent, and their gripping strength 69 percent. Even when height was kept constant, women possessed only 80 percent of the overall strength of men. After eight weeks of intensive training, male plebes demonstrated 32 percent more power in the lower body and peformed 48 percent more work at the leg press than female plebes. At the bench press, the men demonstrated 270 percent more power and performed an extraordinary 473 percent more work than the women."

Anonymous Shutterbug January 23, 2013 8:48 PM  

Teal and mauve = fashionable? The 80s are over, sweety. :-)

Anonymous Lysander Spooner January 23, 2013 8:55 PM  

"The only logical reason for doing this is to destroy the effectiveness of the military."

@ Ridip

That means when the SHTF we gonna be fighting Goils and Grrrrls.......LOL.

Anonymous Lysander Spooner January 23, 2013 8:58 PM  

"the anti-rape brigade"

Oh, ya' mean the Feministas.

No one will lift a finger to defend them, but I know quite a few that would get a certain amount of satisfaction putting holes in their skulls under the right circumstances like civil war.

Anonymous Lysander Spooner January 23, 2013 9:00 PM  

"It's all fun and games till they draft our daughters"

Eff ur daughters, I have sons to raise, get to the front line with Hitlery and the other beotches, isn't it liberating !!?

Anonymous A Visitor January 23, 2013 9:06 PM  

Read this article asking if women will be required to register for the draft. Read the comments section, especially.

Reading those comments it is disgusting how many effeminate men we have in what is left of our republic. They talk about how women can do the job as well as men, etc.

I personally believe women have no place in the military, period. If unit strength is not where it should be, institute the draft and call those of us that would normally be 4F (I'm included in that category) up. The only reason I didn't end up joining and doing a tour in Iraq or Afghanistan is due to medical reasons. Seeing some good friends go and do their duty while I sat around here was infuriatiing, to say the least.

Blogger LP 999/Eliza January 23, 2013 9:07 PM  

Oh great!! Femalke solipsism to the rescue!!

Anonymous Mr. Pea January 23, 2013 9:12 PM  

Do they imagine they'll be treated with respect, as opposed to being raped senseless? This type of bullshit is despicable.

No. It is earned.

A country reaps what it sows.

Anonymous Bobby Joe Trosclair January 23, 2013 9:13 PM  

It would almost be worth the complete loss of combat effectiveness in our nation's defense forces if they bring back the draft now, and eliminate college deferments for women as well, just for the sense of total cognitive dissonance that would result.

Anonymous castricv January 23, 2013 9:13 PM  

No Visitor. I can think of no greater sickness than being forced to fight for a country that hates you in a pointless war of some Jewish pols making. You are too stuck in a more honorable time and a better country. These poeple are not worth fighting for and your leaders are scum. In many cases you will have more in common with the enemy. White knighting at its best. No please take me instead of the pwwwrr girls cause they don't know any better! They will surely respect me and sleep with me if I take some outdates un-pc notion into a war of blowing up poor peasants in Kurdistan!!!!

This is why the right is so screwed. We are operating on political Windows 95 and trying to compete with people who give two shits about rules or honor.

Blogger LP 999/Eliza January 23, 2013 9:13 PM  

Yes, I'm sure the Muslims will enjoy torturing women on the front lines, given they are not strong enough and will be overcome or captured with relative ease.

Women do not and will never succeed in military roles. I recently saw a commercial for some sort of service with a girl fighter pilot. One problem, similar to female theologians, such pilots do not exist or do they? Is this the unicorn illness that exists in so many women or men willing to engage in FAILING social experiments? (See the female vote which isn't being anti-freedom just a reflection of what direction the majority of women will churn towards.)

Anonymous Mr. Pea January 23, 2013 9:19 PM  

Well, if it comes down to it in this country, I'll just spank them and give them a hello kitty soapy bubble gun and send them on their way.

Anonymous kh123 January 23, 2013 9:19 PM  

OT: Californians, prepare for ex-post-facto taxation.

Small business stock returns are getting taxed back to 2008, whereas individual tax payers are getting retroactively hit on "interest" from their individual state returns from 2011.

Anonymous Mina January 23, 2013 9:19 PM  

Women do not belong on the front lines. They are not strong, they are not men.

Cooking in the kitchens, nursing, even doctoring. But fighting? No.

Anonymous Onefiver January 23, 2013 9:25 PM  

I'd say this dovetails nicely with the increase in drone usage, which are also passive-aggressive in nature

Anonymous Stickwick January 23, 2013 9:26 PM  

If putting women into combat was such a great idea, why didn't Hannibal, Napoleon, Rommel, Patton, Alexander, Caesar or any other general of the past think of it?

It's not a great idea, and they know it.

Back in 2008, during one of the presidential debates, the moderator asked Obama about raising taxes. Obama said we need to raise taxes to pay for all these wonderful social programs, or something to that effect. That was the official line from the Obama people. The mod responded by explaining that raising tax rates actually results in less revenue, and asked Obama whether he was still in favor of raising taxes. Obama resisted answering the question, but after being pressed by the mod, he finally gave the real answer: "It's about fairness." In other words, it's about a Marxist desire to stick it to rich people, and increasing revenue was a secondary or tertiary concern.

Same thing with women in the military. The official line is that it will help us build a stronger military force. The truth is, they know it's a bad idea. It's not about strategy and winning wars, it's about ideology and, to some extent, undermining our military.

Anonymous Lysander Spooner January 23, 2013 9:32 PM  

@ Mina

"doctoring"

No, and I'm a Doctor.

Waste of an education of most of them, they work a few years then part time. When I went through we worked 80-100 hours in residency, the law has changed, now residents only work up to 40 hours then it is eff you attendings and patients, I gots to get my nails done. The male doctors lounge used to be a place to chill and confer with colleagues, today, it is open season on 'males' and we better not act in anyway that might 'creep' out a femnazi because they will use the proxy violence of The State and sue your dangler ass into bankruptcy. It is a hostile and unsustainable situation, I am planning to leave the hospital, where the feminists and white knights rule, even in the Christian Hospital where I am, and move my practice somewhere less hostile, and out of the present femnazi instituted "gun free zone" at the hospital.

Anonymous Mr. Pea January 23, 2013 9:33 PM  

Seeing some good friends go and do their duty while I sat around here was infuriatiing, to say the least.

I am sure your friends told you that. At least winked.

Anonymous MPC January 23, 2013 9:35 PM  

Somebody was asking for data about women training and in combat - a few of the facts mentioned are covered in greater detail by none other than the great Fred Reed:

http://www.fredoneverything.net/MilMed.shtml

That and some people have asked what would happen should a female solider be captured and have her head sawed off on YouTube or something. Forget the reaction at home for a minute, what would the international community say? "Oh my God, you Americans actually make your women go to fight in your pointless wars, too?! Disgusting!"

Anonymous Anonymous January 23, 2013 9:37 PM  

Maybe an army of 'Salt's will show up. Not. No the female army of the future will substitute nail painting for pushups, and comiserating sharing sessions for infantry training. Awesome. Wonder if we'll see any battlefield live births. Here kid, grab a rifle..wait its covered nail polish remover.

Anonymous Geoff January 23, 2013 9:44 PM  

Let's take lemons and make lemonade! Now how to focus Army recruiters to target ugly or feminist (but I repeat myself) women for the Infantry? They'll exit the gene pool (hopefully as suicide bombers so the kill ratio is better than 1 chinese death: 25 female american soldiers), and we can better focus our time on the hot feminine chicks when we're not deployed.

Thanks DACOWITS! Your clitorisesuses must be quivering in orgasmic bliss that you finally got what you wanted! Now start studying Mandarin you ignorant cutns before its too late.

Anonymous Vic January 23, 2013 9:59 PM  

Is this not how Sun Tzu got his start? Can one really teach a woman to war?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-zpoIciKho

I have to admit though, he did not suggest the use of women against the enemy.

The fact is, the protection of women is wise from the reasonable view of the state. Your future tax and war fodder depends on it, unless you import your fodder from somewhere else.

It seems these worshipers of the state are hell bent to destroy it.

Anonymous Hoss January 23, 2013 10:05 PM  

"I guess that fat Copenhagen dipping bull dyke medic assigned to my brigade in the 82nd back in 1988 will finally get her wish.'

You know Tammy?

Anonymous The other skeptic January 23, 2013 10:13 PM  

I guess they will use those unmarried young mothers to battle all the Neo Nazis in America

Anonymous A Visitor January 23, 2013 10:24 PM  

Maybe an army of 'Salt's will show up.

I think an army of Lucy Liu's.

I am sure your friends told you that. At least winked.

They didn't wink. Given the current political circumstances, none of them would do it again under the present administration.

When I went through we worked 80-100 hours in residency, the law has changed, now residents only work up to 40 hours then it is eff you attendings and patients, I gots to get my nails done.

Yep, too true. I come from a medical family; parents, siblings are all doctors. One sibling is in residency right now and that is exactly how he describes it (as does the in law).

You are too stuck in a more honorable time and a better country.

Yep.

No please take me instead of the pwwwrr girls cause they don't know any better! They will surely respect me and sleep with me if I take some outdates un-pc notion into a war of blowing up poor peasants in Kurdistan!!!!

This is why the right is so screwed. We are operating on political Windows 95 and trying to compete with people who give two shits about rules or honor.


Re: your first point - I wouldn't be doing it to sleep with women (though I can see how my explanation could've come across as such). Re your second point: agreed totally. The Left really doesn't care about any of the old rules.

You know Tammy?

You made me laugh, Hoss.

Anonymous Jack Amok January 23, 2013 10:40 PM  

Give it enough time and the military will go the way of the Fortune 500 companies, HR commissars will be assigned to each unit, and the combat rifle will be replaced with a lighter .22 caliber carbine that comes in fashionable teal, mauve, and eggshell.

I saw some very fetching pepto-bismol colored cans of pepper spray at the gun shop today. I'm sure they're more environmentally friendly than those nasty bullets.

Anonymous The other skeptic January 23, 2013 10:41 PM  

You mean that the Flu kills 3,000 to 49,000 Americans a year

How many of those are children? How does that compare with children killed with guns at schools.

Anonymous Godfrey January 23, 2013 10:42 PM  

This just provides more killers for the Empire’s war machine.

True progress would be for people to refuse to kill for the psychopaths that run The State.

Anonymous Godfrey January 23, 2013 10:45 PM  

Is the Empire getting desperate?

The psychopaths have conned young men, women and homosexuals to kill for The State. Who’s next? Will it be children? Or will it be old men and women?

Anonymous Jack Amok January 23, 2013 10:47 PM  

You're all overreacting, this is just an effort to find jobs for Quddafy Duck's recently unemployed bodyguards.

http://truedemocracyparty.net/2011/10/gaddafis-female-bodyguards/

Anonymous JartStar January 23, 2013 10:51 PM  

Well if you believe that there will be civil rebellion in the future this bodes well for the rebels.

Anonymous Godfrey January 23, 2013 10:54 PM  

I’m impressed. The ruling classes have a two-for-one. They can really reduce population levels now.

The young female killers will be wasting their most fertile years killing poor men, women and children in other countries. And if they get killed doing it, it will a kind of pre-abortion policy.

Don’t just kill the babies; kill the potential mother before she can conceive a child.

Anonymous Godfrey January 23, 2013 10:56 PM  

Uncle Satan wants you!

To fight and die for the bank-ocracy.

Anonymous The other skeptic January 23, 2013 11:04 PM  

Maybe they can help the Jewish Khazarians

Anonymous Anonymous January 23, 2013 11:12 PM  

"This just provides more killers for the Empire’s war machine."

Dude, I used to show up at ROTC PT hung over, big time. And I could still outrun and out perform the most fit females. Sleep well. The Empire's war machine has fucked itself again. And from what I understand, plenty of minorities sign up for the military. When they get killed, that is a benefit. Less jigaboo babies.

Anonymous The other skeptic January 23, 2013 11:31 PM  

Oh no, I am sure you are wrong. After all, JD Johanes says:


During my time with Army and Marine Infantry units in Iraq and Afghanistan I have seen women carry their full load on big, multi-day missions.


and:

Many elite female athletes can outperform male soldiers when the women have adequate rest, recovery time and nutrition--but rest, recovery and proper nutrition are in short supply at Combat Outpost Zerok.

Of course, those elite female athletes are just barely females and they don't sign up, and in the real world there is no recovery time between crises.

Anonymous Aeoli Pera January 23, 2013 11:51 PM  

This is a misuse of critical manpower [sic]. They need more female bodies for the Torturer MOS.

Anonymous Aeoli Pera January 23, 2013 11:54 PM  

During my time with Army and Marine Infantry units in Iraq and Afghanistan I have seen women carry their full load on big, multi-day missions.

It would be fun to see if even Scalzi would believe that.

Anonymous stg58/Animal Mother January 23, 2013 11:56 PM  

JD is full of shit. I never saw any women in my AIR WING unit that could survive the trials and tribulations of of the vicious meat grinder known as MWCS-38, let alone extended combat operations at a few thousand feet of altitude jn Afghanistan or the humid oven that is Iraq.

Sorry, devil dog but I don't buy it.

Anonymous Aeoli Pera January 23, 2013 11:57 PM  

I forgot to ask- where do I go to sign the petition to lower spec ops PT standards? You know, what with it being only a matter of time...

Blogger LP 999/Eliza January 24, 2013 12:42 AM  

Ah, wait, this addition to the front lines would re-shape 'fevilminism'.

Would women be in charge of operating drones?

Anonymous Rufus January 24, 2013 1:17 AM  

OT alert.

This "celebration" is one reason the US (and the rest of the liberal, immoral West) is stuffed - as a society they simply do not value life.

So what's left to fight for or defend? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEMnyiDKUJI

Anonymous sprach von Teufelshunden January 24, 2013 2:03 AM  

@A Visitor January 23, 2013 5:02 PM

To the young sterile Capt. Petronio, re: FET, what are we doing the ME to begin with? The same would go for Africa, South America, or SE Asia. The whole legitimacy of FETs becomes moot. In two world wars, Korea, and Vietnam, we never required FETs. What is to legitimize them today?

Some are talking about movies. One film to really educate one on women in a combat arena, watch The Siege of Firebase Gloria. That is probably one of the best war films, and anti-war films of all time...

Anonymous sprach von Teufelshunden January 24, 2013 2:27 AM  

Once again to Miss "I can't have babies" Petronio. What the fuck are we doing in Afghanistan (to include all Islamic republics) in the first place? [1]

I guess she has never heard of the 22nd CMC?

I believe that if we had and would keep our dirty, bloody, dollar-soaked fingers out of the business of these nations so full of depressed, exploited people, they will arrive at a solution of their own -- and if unfortunately their revolution must be of the violent type because the "haves" refuse to share with the "have-nots" by any peaceful method, at least what they get will be their own, and not the American style, which they don't want and above all don't want crammed down their throats by Americans.

So tell me Missy, how does what Shoup states not apply to Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Mali, et al? You have learned some, but have a whole lot of learning to do...



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[1] Pay very special attention to the last narration of SGTMAJ Hafner (R. Lee Ermey)

Anonymous cherub's revenge January 24, 2013 7:39 AM  

Sex is major reason military commanders are fired

Sex is major reason military commanders are fired

Lolita Baldor - Associate Press

At least 30 percent of military commanders fired over the past eight years lost their jobs because of sexually related offenses, including harassment, adultery, and improper relationships, according to statistics compiled by The Associated Press.
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At least 30 percent of military commanders fired over the past eight years lost their jobs because of sexually related offenses, including harassment, adultery, and improper relationships, according to statistics compiled by The Associated Press.
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Still, officials struggle to explain why the problem has grown and they acknowledge that solving it is difficult and will take time.


Lolita Baldor, the Associate Press and the US Military can't seem to figure out why so much inappropriate sex is taking place with military officers these days compared with prior periods, you know, before women were around every military installation every day.

Blogger LP 999/Eliza January 24, 2013 7:50 AM  

For our esteemed sprach von Teufelshunden;

"Have any of the boomer gen's considered the birth rate is down and the boomers need us gen x'ers to work and make lots of $$ plus care for them in their old age?

How are we younger people going to marry, have children to replace or enslave them, dooming them just to be workers to perpetuate endless rounds of golf? And if all we are talking about is 100,000 women on the front lines wouldn't they better off and safer at home?

And if we value beauty do the Gen.'s understand who is at Walter Reed? Are we willing to scar, mare women when the IED's hit them?

Doesn't mommy need all her limbs? And is mommy discouraged from owning a gun or two to defend her brood of bastards in the very country she is now being asked to defend? If the feminists think this is progress then we are facing a very stern new American woman who will be harsh and brutal. Do we want to further coarsen women who have been soaked into the sex kitten mind control system? Is the welfare system too loaded to take on anymore cases so would they tell women to join the military for place to live at? You know, like jail?

If the system is willing to sacrifice the weaker sex then every f'ist might as well inject testosterone and join the NRA while simultaneously promoting abortion.

What does this say of motherhood? Are we prepared to pay for yet more mental health care for them when they come home all fucked up in the head?

What does this say of men? Are they truly too fat, lazy and stupid to defend their countries in illegal wars?

Code Pink ain't gonna like this."

From a washpo comment thread.

Blogger LP 999/Eliza January 24, 2013 7:53 AM  


Re: Lolita Baldor - Associate Press

Nein, leave the CO in their jobs and throw out the henhouse otherwise known as women. Anytime men, women and time is around attraction is the natural result. No Gen can possibly expect, ever expect young men and women to behave and uphold a code of conduct and honor (whatever has become of that) when hormones surge. And don't bitch about rape when it doesn't exist, someone had second thoughts, its no reason to ruin their lives for her stupidity.

Anonymous FUBAR Nation Ben January 24, 2013 7:59 AM  

Well, at least the military will be less able to confiscate guns.

Anonymous MendoScot January 24, 2013 8:34 AM  

Britain too.

But Major Webb, who left the Army in 1986, said she had been “horrified” to learn that changes had already been brought in that watered down recruitment standards for both genders for “military fitness” and “combat effectiveness”.

She told BBC Radio 4’s Today programme: “We don’t want to reduce standards of fitness for male soldiers, for infantry soldiers, in order to meet what women can do and that is, I am afraid, what is likely to happen, and is already happening.”

Major Webb said it was part of a drive to “meet gender equality requirements”.

Anonymous Desidierus January 24, 2013 8:34 AM  

Godfrey,

"I’m impressed. The ruling classes have a two-for-one. They can really reduce population levels now.

The young female killers will be wasting their most fertile years killing poor men, women and children in other countries. And if they get killed doing it, it will a kind of pre-abortion policy.

Don’t just kill the babies; kill the potential mother before she can conceive a child."

Yeah, that's the game. Not a new one. Nature red in tooth and claw.

Then again, population collapse doesn't jive too well with maintaining the entitlement state. Boomers gotta get paid. Something's got to give.

Anonymous FrankNorman January 24, 2013 8:46 AM  

The Irrational Athiest = Hi there, totalitarians.

Profound...

Anonymous Just Another Brick January 24, 2013 9:03 AM  

And the Generals gave thanks to feel the warm thrill of confusion on the thin ice of modern life.
A snapshot in the family album.., exposing every weakness, however carefully hidden by the kids.
Hush now baby don't you cry. Did you ever wonder why we had to run for shelter with our backs to the wall? A stranger is this new town? Dont leave me now. I dont need no arms around me. No dark sarcasm. Nothing is very much fun anymore. Remember the flowers I sent. I need you babe.. with your button down lip and your roller blind eyes. No matter how they try.
Walk on by. Because I have to know. But my hands were tied.

Anonymous Schnoorky January 24, 2013 9:46 AM  

I can't believe it isn't obvious by now to true men of the west that we have much more in common with our so called "enemies" - i.e. Iranians, Afghani's, Syrian's, Russian's, etc - than with the current western progressive society. The progressive west is weak and getting much weaker with decisions like putting women in front line fighting capacity. I encourage all men I know to NOT join the military - the present goal for true western men is to foster the collapse of the progressive west and prepare to eventually reconquer it. I'm surprised there hasn't been more of an outreach by the Islamists to western men. I think there could be a mutually beneficial alliance struck between the two.

Anonymous Anonymous January 24, 2013 10:16 AM  

@ Lysander Spooner

"No, and I'm a Doctor.

Waste of an education of most of them, they work a few years then part time. When I went through we worked 80-100 hours in residency, the law has changed, now residents only work up to 40 hours then it is eff you attendings and patients, I gots to get my nails done. The male doctors lounge used to be a place to chill and confer with colleagues, today, it is open season on 'males' and we better not act in anyway that might 'creep' out a femnazi because they will use the proxy violence of The State and sue your dangler ass into bankruptcy. It is a hostile and unsustainable situation, I am planning to leave the hospital, where the feminists and white knights rule, even in the Christian Hospital where I am, and move my practice somewhere less hostile, and out of the present femnazi instituted "gun free zone" at the hospital."

Do you have a citation for that 40 hour requirement? As far as I know, they are restricted to 80 hours per week, and 16 hour shifts (down from 30 hour shifts).

My wife did her residency before there were any restrictions on hours. She did the 100+ hour weeks, and the 36 hour shifts Q3 (every three days). Women are not able to compete with men in many respects, but there are some areas in which they can. Fields where the critical skills include attention to detail (e.g. internal medicine) or doing something exactly the same every time (marksmanship technique) they can perform as well or better than many men. In areas where IQ and physical strength are paramount they can't.

I'm not arguing that the increase in female physicians has been clearly good, for society or for many of the women who have become physicians (including my wife). I'm just trying to figure out if you know anything about this topic.

Anonymous Loki of Asgard January 24, 2013 10:22 AM  

And the Generals gave thanks to feel the warm thrill of confusion on the thin ice of modern life.
A snapshot in the family album.., exposing every weakness, however carefully hidden by the kids.
Hush now baby don't you cry. Did you ever wonder why we had to run for shelter with our backs to the wall? A stranger is this new town? Dont leave me now. I dont need no arms around me. No dark sarcasm. Nothing is very much fun anymore. Remember the flowers I sent. I need you babe.. with your button down lip and your roller blind eyes. No matter how they try.
Walk on by. Because I have to know. But my hands were tied.


Just an old-fashioned love song. Sing.

Anonymous but but men start wars January 24, 2013 10:46 AM  

"Being rather backwards-looking by nature (except for science), the feminists have always enraged me. They want to keep the advantages of women (e.g. cheaper insurance, extended maternity leave preceded by a preventative leave, etc.) while seizing for themselves those of men [. . .] They are so opportunistic they do not neglect to profit from the knowledge accumulated by men through the ages. They always try to misrepresent them every time they can. Thus, the other day, I heard they were honoring the Canadian men and women who fought at the frontline during the world wars. How can you explain that, since women were not authorized to go to the frontline? Will we hear of Caesar's female legions and female galley slaves who of course took up 50% of the ranks of history, though they never existed. A real Casus Belli."

Marc Lepine's manifesto

"Fran Wilde, a former Mayor of Wellington, New Zealand, is a Feminist. In her mayoral election campaign, she even went so far as to hold a public meeting on what it would mean to turn Wellington into a Feminist city. On the morning after Anzac Day 1993, a public holiday which is meant to honour New Zealand's war dead, she was reported in the Dominion newspaper as follows:

"'Remembering men who died in war was important but it was EQUALLY (my emphasis) important to recognise the often-overlooked sacrifices and experiences of women,' Wellington Mayor Fran Wilde said at yesterday's Anzac Day Service of Commemoration at Wellington Cenotaph."

Her use of the word "equally" is astonishing, because about 1000 New Zealand men were killed in the Second World War, about 3000 were wounded, and about 2,000 were taken prisoner. We can add to this number the thousands of men who were killed, wounded or captured in the Boer War, the First World War, the Korean War, the Vietnam War, and various United Nations peacekeeping operations.

To Fran Wilde, what these thousands of men went through was "equally" balanced by a group of fifty nurses who went to serve in the Middle East in the First World War -- plus one individual woman who set up canteens and clubs for troops, and worked to prevent venereal disease amongst the troops. The total number of these 51 women who were captured, wounded or killed is precisely zero. "

sex lies and feminism by peter zohrab

Anonymous Mina January 24, 2013 11:03 AM  

Ridip January 23, 2013 7:53 PM:

An incomplete thought as you don't postulate to what end?

Agree with your point but would like to hear your conclusion.

Blogger Baloo January 24, 2013 11:04 AM  

Nice and succinct. Linked here:
Ladies in combat.

Anonymous testosterone equality bigots! January 24, 2013 11:14 AM  

"It's not a bad solution; for the 0.5% to 1% of women who are physically/mentally equal to an average or slightly below average man, it will be fine. The rest will wash out."

"Many elite female athletes can outperform male soldiers when the women have adequate rest, recovery time and nutrition"

a little bit of winstrol in the butt,
a little bit of nandro in my thigh,
a little bit of anavar all week long,
a litte bit of dibol on the side,
a little bit of T makes me half a man

well, much more than half a man, considering the degraded condition of the upcoming male species.

"I have seen women carry their full load"

Anonymous castricv January 24, 2013 12:23 PM  

And thread done......

Anonymous Porky! January 24, 2013 3:07 PM  

Tweeted from Kandahar FOB:

OMG! Kevlar makes me look so fat!

Anonymous paradox January 24, 2013 3:14 PM  

I blame Tolkien for this. He just had to go and add Eowyn to LOTR. Now every little girl thinks she is a defender of Rohan.

Anonymous DonReynolds January 24, 2013 6:59 PM  

Of course, we have had female soldiers in combat before. The one occasion I remember best was Operation Just Cause, the invasion of Panama to take out Noriega. (Known to some people as Operation Just Because.) The women soldiers in question were in a Military Police unit based in Panama. As soon as they took fire from the Panamanian defenders they ran like scalded dogs, leaving behind their male counterparts. Had they not been impeded by salt water, they would have ran all the way back to New Orleans. That is all you need to know about women in combat.

Anonymous castricv January 24, 2013 7:33 PM  

Paradox, I can't think of more than one girl I have ever met that has known who Tolkein was before the first movies and I'm sure that number is still the same for girls that have actually read Tolkein....

Blogger LP 999/Eliza January 25, 2013 7:13 AM  

Cspan took a break off fear mongering about own guns to hear public opinions on another current event. Today on cspan the question is posed to the viewers, most callers said women do not belong in combat regardless of what Gen Dempsey says.

Anonymous dh January 25, 2013 1:31 PM  

Paradox, I can't think of more than one girl I have ever met that has known who Tolkein was before the first movies and I'm sure that number is still the same for girls that have actually read Tolkein...

Makes you appreciate the women who know Tolkein even more.. my long-suffering wife actually read and translated to me because at the time we couldn't find a native language version and my English was not strong enough at the time to read it myself. Several years later when I read it myself I marveled at how well she did given the expansive nature of the vocabulary, and how important the structure and etymology of the wordplay is to the story. I remember thinking how well she knew the subject when she transliterated Theoden perfectly, into a native word that was ancient, meaning, horse king.

Blogger Fernando Chacon January 25, 2013 1:37 PM  

It has been a slow process but, the military (especially the US Army) has been feminizing itself for years. I remember going to Basic Training at Fort Benning (Sand Hill) in 1991 and expecting to be cussed at along with being yelled at. I also expected to be doing alot of running in combat boots. Running was done in tennis shoes, the Drill Sargeants were not allowed to cuss you out and yelling was minimal.
I also felt cheated when I was in Airborne School, woman who got the coveted Airborne Wings, did not have to do actual pull ups or push ups. They did the female version, all standards were lowered for them.
This is just the "dotting of the I's and crossing of the T's"

Anonymous Ferd January 25, 2013 4:58 PM  

What will the NYT headline read the day after an All-Womyn Company of Rangerettes is over run in Mali and they are all raped, tortured and executed by the musloids? Will there be outrage? Will George Bush be blamed? Will they blame the Republicans for not providing enough money for feminine shaped body armor? Will President Hillary wear funny classes and deny she had no knowledge of anything?

"What a World" is exclaimed as the sisterhood melts,,

Blogger Some dude February 05, 2013 5:34 PM  

Don't be silly. The women will not be used for real combat operations against Americans.

They are mop up and torture.

Alternatively, they are also being put there to discourage intelligent patriots from joining up. Makes it easier to turn the military against the populace.

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