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Saturday, February 09, 2013

Mailvox: comparative ROI

Phoenician is pleased with his work that inspired an earlier post:
Well, that's VD huffing and puffing followed by 160 comments - due to a few off-the-cuff sentences.  Best ROI ever. Keep dancing, fools.
So close, and yet so far.  This is an fascinating statement from a guy who asserts that the Gamma Rabbit is !WINNING! by raising $60,000 due to a few contemptuous references to "Rapey McRaperson".  Now, it seems to me that $60,000 in wasted cash and multiple mainstream media reports would trump 160 whole comments, but then, one can hardly blame the little rabbit for getting excited and concluding that fiver must mean win.

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123 Comments:

Anonymous Lulabelle February 09, 2013 1:34 PM  

So, they're scrutinizing your every comment for mention of a nickname?
Awesome.
What is the off-chance that one of them will become de-rabbitized by reading V.P?

Blogger Nate February 09, 2013 1:35 PM  

The best thing about this... is that it is going to make absolutely no sense to him... and thus he will conclude that it therefore couldn't possibly make sense to anyone ever.

Anonymous Lulabelle February 09, 2013 1:35 PM  

Sorry, but I've been waiting 7 years to say it: FIRST!!!!
......back to my corner now.

Anonymous Krul February 09, 2013 1:38 PM  

You know, the Punic Wars were called the Punic Wars because the Romans referred to their adversary, whom we call the Phoenicians, as the Puni (pronounced "puny").

keep dancing [on my head], fools

Okay, my Puni friend, if you insist.

Blogger sconzey February 09, 2013 1:47 PM  

Please dude, stop posting that rabbit, it's freaky as hell.

The biggest joke of the whole thing is that Scalzi commissioned that. He gets an email from the artist, opens it, sees the rabbit; sexless, effeminate, in a submissive posture and looking like it's about to cry and said: "Yes, this is the perfect emblem for my movement!"

*headdesk*

Anonymous Matt February 09, 2013 1:50 PM  

Even among the more social-justicey corners of the internet like Something Awful, "keep dancing, fools" and its equivalents are widely considered to be the most embarrassing way to flame out in an internet argument.

Blogger Nate February 09, 2013 1:54 PM  

"Please dude, stop posting that rabbit, it's freaky as hell. "

Its way less freaky if you picture "Boooooooooooobs!" across the top of it.

I hope that helps.

Anonymous Krul February 09, 2013 1:57 PM  

I wander if there are any flash animators among the Ilk. They could certainly do interesting things with Gamma Rabbit, if they had the time.

Blogger tz February 09, 2013 2:09 PM  

I doubt any will be derabbitized by reading anything here. There are some side-line spectators which might help, but one of the Catholic bloggers uses the term "ritually unclean source" when the report of a clear evil or artocity comes from someone like Glenn Greenwald instead of Hannity or O'Reilly, or even Limbaugh or Beck.

BECAUSE we are not rabbits, whatever we say will be ignored or ridiculed. Understanding your opponent is not something rabbits are capable of. Cowardice is part of the package and it requires courage to face yourself and your current peers to see your group is a rabbit warren. That is why the responses are what they are. Things which the natural law says are contemptible. It is one thing to hate yourself for being a coward, another thing to glory in it. Earlier, the (echoes of) christian culture would have driven them to repentance or psychosis. The last strong statement was from MLKjr who said we should be judged on the content of our character. Exactly, but the cartoon bunny is clear but represents no virtue. And maybe only sloth, (in both ancient and modern definitions - sorrow because another has virtue v.s.indolent), but sloth itself is a self limiting sin - there are no great sinners who were slothful. It is self-negation.

Someone needs to do a remix of a mother rabbit killing her offspring, and superimpose the young gamma bunny, and add a note to support whichever of McRaperson's charities are pro-abortion.

I suspect that some might be shocked enough by reality when this plays out they might actually think.

Anonymous Aeoli Pera February 09, 2013 2:10 PM  

What's the pot up to now?

Anonymous Aeoli Pera February 09, 2013 2:11 PM  

I wander if there are any flash animators among the Ilk. They could certainly do interesting things with Gamma Rabbit, if they had the time.

Didn't VD say he was on friendly terms with 4chan?

Anonymous DrTorch February 09, 2013 2:12 PM  

So scalzi begs for it all to go away, and when it doesn't, he's winning?

Good work if you can get it I suppose.

BTW, what's the pot up to for the stripper?

Anonymous Lulabelle February 09, 2013 2:15 PM  

"Please dude, stop posting that rabbit, it's freaky as hell. "

Its way less freaky if you picture "Boooooooooooobs!" across the top of it.

I hope that helps.

It helps me a bit. I am creeped out by the rabbit also. Not the color, not the expression, not the hands raised in submission. No, for me, the creepiness factor is found in the wide hips and plumb, woman-like thighs. It IS supposed to be a male rabbit, right?

Blogger Bob February 09, 2013 2:15 PM  

"Boooooooooooobs!"

LMAO

Anonymous Lulabelle February 09, 2013 2:16 PM  

*plump*

Anonymous whatadisgrace February 09, 2013 2:16 PM  

This whole little feud is so gay. Grow up, you're a middle aged man on the internet.

Anonymous Lulabelle February 09, 2013 2:20 PM  

"This whole little feud is so gay. Grow up, you're a middle aged man on the internet."

Oh dear. That's quite a slam. I'm not sure how Vox will recover.

Anonymous Lulabelle February 09, 2013 2:22 PM  

whatadisgrace: Here is an example of a proper gay insult which I learned in "Gay Insults 101" as taught by Professor Bane:

"Gay squared. Super double secret gay, with a side of gay, smothered in gay sauce, with a sprig of gay. And you ride a rice burner? Gay."

Anonymous Krul February 09, 2013 2:27 PM  

Protip #1: If you're going to criticize someone's maturity level, don't use the phrase "so gay".

Blogger tz February 09, 2013 2:28 PM  

The gamma rabbit is freaky precisely because it is hard to imagine such people exist - human beings who have not sold their souls even for pleasure, but have voluntarily, by their will alone, become lobotomized euneuchs. It is the ultimate form of denial. A denial that has no object but is the evil of denial itself for itself. The negationof virtue. No fortitude, it won't battle or endure. No prudence since the first step is acknowledging reality, no temperance, but the excesses are passive. No justice for it cannot evaluate anything or recognize a standard.

There were fearsome and strong gods in myths that personified pagan virtues, that men - and women - could aspire to. McRaperson aspires to be and would wish to incarnate gamma bunny.

It may be the ultimate symbol of moral relativism. Of subjectivism. Because anyone with a shred of objective morality looks upon it with the same horror of pictures of abortion. You are looking at a dismembered and dead soul. That is why it is freaky. It is dead in a way more profound than most can encounter. Skulls, grim-reapers, psyco-clowns, ringwraiths have nothing on gamma bunny, for the former are un-dead, but there is yet some kind of unlife in the malice. The latter is the abyss.

Anonymous WINNING February 09, 2013 2:28 PM  

Vox...you both are WINNING....

Thousands raised for CHARITY....

Thanks to your feud....little kids get shoes....babies get milk....starving folks are fed....the naked are clothed...

Wait? Rapeys donations go to "charities" promoting homosex, pedophilia mainstreaming, socialism, Obama regime maintenence and gutting the Constitution?

I guess we all do lose on this one...

Anonymous Rex Little February 09, 2013 2:31 PM  

So, they're scrutinizing your every comment for mention of a nickname?

They have to, so they know how much to kick in. Scalzi himself pledged $5 for every post which mentions his name or one of Vox's nicknames for him; many of his followers pledged lesser amounts, but most were still on a per-post basis.

So scalzi begs for it all to go away, and when it doesn't, he's winning?

He never begged for anything to go away, at least not after his little pledge drive started. His attitude is, "Bring it on. Your posts will trigger donations to causes you hate, which hurts you." Of course, he's hilariously wrong about that, but he is getting favorable mention on some high-traffic websites, and a big dose of righteous self-satisfaction, and endless praise from his sycophants, so yes, he's winning. As are we, of course; it's not a competition that either side has to lose.

Anonymous VD February 09, 2013 2:32 PM  

This whole little feud is so gay. Grow up, you're a middle aged man on the internet.

Homophobe! Where is your blog? I'm going to stalk it and then give a lollipop to a little black girl every time you mention me.

Blogger tz February 09, 2013 2:32 PM  

this whole little feud is so gay. Are you saying the lavender rabbit's pink shirt has the wrong greek letter?

Anonymous Weak February 09, 2013 2:45 PM  

+1 to Sconzey. It is creepy to see that rabbit all the time. By all means, let's keep up the amusing rabbit hunting. But must we see the lavendar lagomorph everytime? It's depressing.

Anonymous kh123 February 09, 2013 2:46 PM  

"I guess we all do lose on this one..."

No more so than before; status quo and all. At the least, consider this a more direct form of taxation by the State on the specific SWPLs that worship at its altar. Rabbit indulgences, courtesy of the Grand Hutchinson.

Anonymous WINNING February 09, 2013 2:46 PM  

Actually I like Vox a lot....

....why I am sad to see him get clulessly rolled by Alinsky tactics.

Anonymous kh123 February 09, 2013 2:52 PM  

"It may be the ultimate symbol of moral relativism. Of subjectivism."

It's Dadaism, only stupider, less creative, and self induced.

Anonymous WINNING February 09, 2013 2:53 PM  

By my count, he beat Vox using Alinsky Rules #5, #6 and #12.

Anonymous kh123 February 09, 2013 2:55 PM  

"...why I am sad to see him get clulessly rolled..."

Because rabbits who would have contributed or advocated for the "charities" they're pledging to currently wouldn't have done so to begin with or eventually?

Well, to be fair, that's partly true - lagomorphs don't move until herded or chased by their betters.

Anonymous kh123 February 09, 2013 2:59 PM  

"Alinsky Rules #5, #6 and #12."

Do any of these instruct the user towards harakiri and the pretense of enjoying it.

Anonymous VD February 09, 2013 3:02 PM  

By my count, he beat Vox using Alinsky Rules #5, #6 and #12.

First, nothing is over, one way or the other. Second, #5 works in my favor, not his. As does #4. #6 clearly works both ways. #12 is irrelevant. And it is #3 that is going to be the significant one, mostly because he violated #2.

Anonymous WINNING February 09, 2013 3:04 PM  

He won because he got power at Vox's expense. In the rules of Alinskyland, thats a clear victory.

Blogger Markku February 09, 2013 3:06 PM  

A person went into a blog feud with Vox
-Ended up as a prostitute in Nevada before it was over

Another person went into a blog feud with Vox
-Immediately took his blog down for several months

McRapey did the same
-Only takes mere 10 day hiatus from the internet

So far McRapey seems to have taken the least amount of damage. I suppose that's at least some kind of !WINNING!

Blogger Beefy Levinson February 09, 2013 3:08 PM  

OT, but happy birthday to William Henry Harrison, the president who probably did the least damage to the Republic.

Blogger Markku February 09, 2013 3:10 PM  

Or was it Nebraska? Can't keep these American locations straight.

Anonymous Aeoli Pera February 09, 2013 3:11 PM  

OT: Can we get a thread for lars?

Anonymous Asher February 09, 2013 3:25 PM  

@ tz

It may be the ultimate symbol of moral relativism. Of subjectivism

Jesus. Moral relativism and moral subjectivism are not the same thing, not even close. Moral relativism is the position that life creates morality and that different types of life create different types of morality. Therefore, morals differ by time and place.

Moral subjectivism ... isn't about morality, at all, but the absence of morality. Moral relativism is pure individualism, the notion that each individual's only legitimate determinate for what is permitted is that individual's own specific taste and sentiment.

Moral relativism is a description of the rules that societies use too function.

Moral subjectivism is the position that individuals have the right to do whatever they want and don't need anyone else, or society, to survive.

But, hey, congratulations for conflating polar opposites.

Anonymous SDH February 09, 2013 3:26 PM  

I'm absolutely crushed that Scalzi won't get a tattoo. He's preventing hundreds of dollars from going to the transgendered Afro American Hispanic tattoo artist of his choice.

Why do you have so much hate John? Why?

Blogger tz February 09, 2013 3:26 PM  

It isn't dadaist. Close, but not quite. Dadaism is actively nihilistic. A dadaist would portray something broken, distorted, or ugly. Vandalism.

Gamma Rabbit, other than being a cartoon, is clean and perfect in its form and expression. In the same way a serial killer lacks any hatred or anger but kills efficiently and cleanly, Gamma Rabbit is completely undistorted. It is nihilism meets the void - when there is nothing to warp, deface, or pervert. It is the black hole for souls.

You cannot see what it used to be, what was perverted or distorted, because it has not been altered. It sprang forth from the mind of its creator from the abyss much as Sin in Paradise Lost.

That is why it is creepy. Something inside any real man wants to find what it used to be before whatever horror befell it, something to be restored or redeemed, but this is a near perfect portrait of an eternal platonic form. It is at the nadir such that any vandalism would be an improvement.

It may have been what the serpent looked like before the fall when it tempted Eve. Arachne too was once a woman. But we have an internal revulsion for spiders and snakes. It is much like that, but naked. In the origin, not derivative. A skull was once a human head, a psycho-evil-clown is a defaced clown, ringwraiths were once human.

We are looking into the face of what is probably the most pusillanimous, petty primordial evil. And while being creeped out, laughing!

The great monstrous dragon, Lucifer shouted "non serviam" across the heaven, his tail swept a third of the angels, and they fell like lightening.

This demon when presented the choice instead shrugged and said "whatever".

Anonymous Hmmm February 09, 2013 3:29 PM  

$60,000 in wasted cash -- just pledges, or actual confirmed donations?

Anonymous Asher February 09, 2013 3:30 PM  

@ tz

Dadaism ISN'T moral relativism, it's moral nihilism. They're totally different. Moral nihilism is the position that all morality is a lie, and moral relativism is the position that different times, places and circumstances require different moral systems for society to function.

Anonymous Orville February 09, 2013 3:32 PM  

If I was forced to use a rabbit as my team mascot, I'd at least use one like the one in "Donnie Darko". Then again, I wouldn't be on the Pink Puffers team.

Blogger Nate February 09, 2013 3:36 PM  

Agent Aspy.. at it again.

Anonymous Krul February 09, 2013 3:40 PM  

tz, on the one hand I think you're going waaaay overboard.

On the other, your posts are really entertaining. So please continue.

We are looking into the face of what is probably the most pusillanimous, petty primordial evil. And while being creeped out, laughing!

Damn right we're laughing.

The best way to drive out the devil, if he will not yield to texts of Scripture, is to jeer and flout him, for he cannot bear scorn.
-Luther

The devil... the prowde spirite... cannot endure to be mocked.
-Thomas Moore

Taken from The Screwtape Letters epigraph.

Anonymous jcw February 09, 2013 3:40 PM  

"Gay squared. Super double secret gay, with a side of gay, smothered in gay sauce, with a sprig of gay. And you ride a rice burner? Gay."

Lulabelle, I can't quite remember but wasn't that a shot by Bane aimed at Nate. They used to have some awsome back and forth.

Anonymous Harsh February 09, 2013 3:43 PM  

Protip #1: If you're going to criticize someone's maturity level, don't use the phrase "so gay".

It was obviously a clever meta-joke.

Or maybe I'm giving the poster too much credit.

Anonymous Krul February 09, 2013 3:50 PM  

It doesn't matter, Harsh. As a commenter in another thread said "if you're doing something 'ironically', you're still doing it."

Blogger Markku February 09, 2013 3:52 PM  

From Screwtape Proposes a Toast: (Don't tl;dr it, it explains the Gamma phenomenon too well to ignore)

All is summed up in the prayer which a young female human is said to have uttered recently: “O God, make me a normal twentieth century girl!” Thanks to our labours, this will mean increasingly: “Make me a minx, a moron, and a parasite.”

Meanwhile, as a delightful by-product, the few (fewer every day) who will not be made Normal or Regular and Like Folks and Integrated increasingly become in reality the prigs and cranks which the rabble would in any case have believed them to be. For suspicion often creates what it expects. (“Since, whatever I do, the neighbors are going to think me a witch, or a Communist agent, I might as well be hanged for a sheep as a lamb, and become one in reality.”) As a result we now have an intelligentsia which, though very small, is very useful to the cause of Hell.

But that is a mere by-product. What I want to fix your attention on is the vast, overall movement towards the discrediting, and finally the elimination, of every kind of human excellence – moral, cultural, social, or intellectual. And is it not pretty to notice how “democracy” (in the incantatory sense) is now doing for us the work that was once done by the most ancient Dictatorships, and by the same methods? You remember how one of the Greek Dictators (they called them “tyrants” then) sent an envoy to another Dictator to ask his advice about the principles of government. The second Dictator led the envoy into a field of grain, and there he snicked off with his cane the top of every stalk that rose an inch or so above the general level. The moral was plain. Allow no preeminence among your subjects. Let no man live who is wiser or better or more famous or even handsomer than the mass. Cut them all down to a level: all slaves, all ciphers, all nobodies. All equals. Thus Tyrants could practice, in a sense, “democracy.” But now “democracy” can do the same work without any tyranny other than her own. No one need now go through the field with a cane. The little stalks will now of themselves bite the tops off the big ones. The big ones are beginning to bite off their own in their desire to Be Like Stalks.

Anonymous kh123 February 09, 2013 3:56 PM  

"The great monstrous dragon, Lucifer shouted "non serviam" across the heaven..."

So long as it wasn't over MTV, Eggos, or Battleship.

Anonymous Passinthrough February 09, 2013 3:57 PM  

@Markku
Prostitution is legal in Nevada.

Anonymous fnn February 09, 2013 3:58 PM  

How deluded do you have to be to think that $60,000 in donations to The Cathedral has any significance when The Cathedral already has TRILLIONS?

Anonymous jack February 09, 2013 3:58 PM  

I like seeing the gamma rabbit. It gives levity every time I view it. I have save that graphic to my pics directory for the day it does come down. Maybe I will use in on every comment I make.

Anonymous VD February 09, 2013 4:00 PM  

$60,000 in wasted cash -- just pledges, or actual confirmed donations?

Pledges, of course.

Anonymous Gen. Kong February 09, 2013 4:07 PM  

I think the rabbit needs to be tossed on the flaming tire pyre. We can refer to this as assisted suttee.

Anonymous mattos February 09, 2013 4:07 PM  

It gets freakier. Gamma rabbits going to be a big hit at the next furry convention.

Anonymous Gen. Kong February 09, 2013 4:14 PM  

fnn:
How deluded do you have to be to think that $60,000 in donations to The Cathedral has any significance when The Cathedral already has TRILLIONS?

Superb point. After all, the Cathedral's high priesthood can simply create all the money they need and desire by having Bother Ben press his crooked finger on the button. It's surely a miracle which rivals the loaves and fishes, no? What are a few rabbit pellets in comparison to such riches?

Anonymous Noah B. February 09, 2013 4:19 PM  

All together, I doubt that they collect more than 500 bucks. I, however, am definitely good for the 5 dollars I've pledged for the tattoo fund.

Anonymous test123 February 09, 2013 4:20 PM  

So let me get this straight...

every time Vox or someone else calls him a name...

instead of ignoring it like an adult would...

his response is to promise to give money to corrupt and evil organizations that he would have supported anyway.

So he and his supporters gets poorer, corruption gets done whilst their purported causes aren't advanced, he doesn't solve the problem, he doesn't punish anyone making fun of him, and he strengthens the proof that he is a thin-skinned, myopic little boy.

well then..in that case...
....

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Anonymous VD February 09, 2013 4:23 PM  

Per post, not per mention, Test123. You needn't wear out your Ctrl-V keys.

Anonymous Lulabelle February 09, 2013 4:31 PM  

"Lulabelle, I can't quite remember but wasn't that a shot by Bane aimed at Nate. They used to have some awsome back and forth."

Yep.

Anonymous Rex Little February 09, 2013 5:26 PM  

Per post, not per mention, Test123. You needn't wear out your Ctrl-V keys.

And even if it was per mention, there's a cap of 200, and we don't want to max it out before their deadline (end of the year). It causes them pain and suffering to monitor Vox' sites and count the posts--just ask them--so we don't want them to be able to stop, do we?

To that end, Vox, be sure you take a break every couple of days from anything gamma-, rabbit- or Scalzi-related. I'd like them to hit their cap on Dec. 31, not a day sooner.

Anonymous Daniel February 09, 2013 5:46 PM  

Alinsky rules? Really? That's pretty funny considering that the second you establish rules is the second that you become the establishment, by definition.

The Alinsky Rules are an admission of defeat, and can be easily implemented against the would-be radical overlord.

Which would be happening, if McRapey was either radical or an overlord. He is, instead, a cowering rabbit who has taken to a 10-day exile after experiencing the worst possible week online without involving a viral video.

Anonymous just another steve February 09, 2013 5:47 PM  

Aren't you guys getting bored with repeating yourselves over and over? JS = gamma rabbit, gamma rabbit = bad/ridiculous/whatever the insult, bad/ridiculous/whatever the insult = JS. Round and round and round they go and where they stop no one knows...

Blogger Markku February 09, 2013 5:49 PM  

Aren't you guys getting bored with repeating yourselves over and over?

Not for poor little gay black children.

Otherwise we might.

Anonymous Lulabelle February 09, 2013 5:50 PM  

Nope.

Anonymous Full Fledged Fiasco February 09, 2013 6:03 PM  

"Aren't you guys getting bored with repeating yourselves over and over?"

No. I'am having a ball.

Blogger tz February 09, 2013 6:10 PM  

It is not that I'm trying to go overboard, but synthesize two of my favorite British institutions: CS Lewis and Monty Python.

And I was thinking of Screwtape Proposes a toast including at least one of those passages. I was also thinking about how the casserole was so bland because there were no great sinners. Casanova was lusty. Evil, but at least enjoyed it and pushed it. There will be no starvation in hell given the huge supply of bland sinners.

But in one sense I'm serious. Before we had great saints, but many of those were great sinners. When you look at Gamma Rabbit, you see the other end from the war with the creator. From the hatred. From the great passion. All of which can be turned around in a miracle of redemption and then become something magnificent. Like in "The Great Divorce" where this oily ghost has a lizard which when an angel kills it becomes a strong, fast, stallion and he jumps on and rides off into heaven proper. That happens even in this life when we really want it to, and it is very painful as in the book.

Gammy Bunny is more like the puppet which the tiny man is holding but at the attempts of a saing becomes smaller and smaller until there is no man and just puppet. There is no love, nor hate. There are only the animal passions, eat whatever human fodder, urinate, defecate. No passion. Just a puppet, but without an intelligence to pull the strings.

We can look at malice and fear becoming the victim, yet at least the attack is direct, and if we become infected it shows inflammation. We can see and feel gangrene so we either need antibiotics or amputation, but know the alternative.

The loss of circulation and feeling that accompanies leprosy is worse. It doesn't hurt, it simply creeps and cuts off from life, slowly. You lose yourself, part by part as each bit becomes numb, then dead. But always numb first.

Blogger tz February 09, 2013 6:12 PM  

The creepyness comes because it is TOO familiar. It (properly) pricks and wakes our conscience. We are at (spiritual) war, but how many times have we become Vichy when the Nazis have taken over? Given away the Sudetenland (Add an umbrella and you will see Neville Chamberlain). Responded neither with retreat over a battle we consciously choose not to fight because we are outnumbered and it would be futile, nor with some kind of direct (even if asymmetric) attack against the evil, but instead with some passive-aggressive stance which has little or no effect other than to slake our conscience that "we did something". We cannot bear to think of ourselves as cowards - which might have the power of truth and at least would be a sin to confess. So we pantomime bravery.

A part of all of us is "Gamma Rabbit" and it makes us - at least I will assume the present company are all real men - nervous. It hits too close to home. "A part of ME is THAT!". Yes. Because we are all fallen. At least part of the laughter of contempt is for ourselves - that is I think a lot of the creepyness. It is righteous indignation, yet we are not without the same sin. But we call it a sin. A stupid, petty, venial sin.

(CS Lewis Man or Rabbit? link is on the other thread so I won't repeat it here).

The solution is simply humility. What is man that God should be mindful of him? But he loves us and doesn't want us to be rabbits. Yes, part of me is Gamma Rabbit, but I hate it and laugh at it. Because I recognize it for what it is. Part of the fall, my being bent. Our Lord has overcome it. But he has done so, not I.

Another difference is we also know and usually are capable of noble acts. We banish Gamma Rabbit to the scullery and put as much nobility as we have on the throne and hope the infant prince grows into a strong king (or princess/queen). Humility is not self-deprecation, but admitting the truth. We are both noble and base. Once you recognize it, you pray for refinement, to daily keep and strengthen the noble, and mortify the base.

The warren does the opposite. Their God, Lord, and King (add feminine versions) is Gamma Rabbit, and they lock their most noble qualities away in the basement or the closet and hope no one will look or notice.

It makes the false equality easy, since it is easy for everyone to be Gamma Rabbit in the warren. All Gamma Rabbits act the same (as Vox is demonstrating). Nobility has a unique form for every individual as that is what we were created for. There is no way to make such equal.

Blogger Markku February 09, 2013 6:18 PM  

Toothsome was the word he used of the great sinners of old. And yes, it was in Screwtape Proposes a Toast.

Anonymous kh123 February 09, 2013 6:24 PM  

"Aren't you guys getting bored..."

And yet, here you are.

Blogger Markku February 09, 2013 6:25 PM  

Screwtape would never praise Gamma Rabbit with There was real crackling there; something to crunch; a rage, an egotism, a cruelty only just less robust than our own. It put up a delicious resistance to being devoured. It warmed your inwards when you’d got it down.

Blogger tz February 09, 2013 6:33 PM  

Markku - quite and exactly the point. Screwtape did not praise the dinner at which he was proposing the toast, instead he noted although the best efforts of the demonic chef, it was utterly bland. The dinner could have been for and by Gamma Rabbit, and the lukewarm, tepid, petty evils that just managed to damn the souls.

Rabbits are prolific and are efficient at converting grass into protein.

Hell used to have a few great banquets with great food. Now they - I guess they imitate our current state of "supersize me" gluttony. Lots of empty calories.

Blogger Markku February 09, 2013 6:34 PM  

Gamma Rabbit is tofu.

Anonymous bob k. mando February 09, 2013 6:39 PM  

Lulabelle February 09, 2013 2:15 PM
No, for me, the creepiness factor is found in the wide hips and plumb, woman-like thighs. It IS supposed to be a male rabbit, right?



what about the open, receptive mouth? the curled, slightly extended tongue? you're perfectly okay with that?

*considers*

maybe that should be relabeled as the Lambda Lagomorph.




Markku February 09, 2013 3:10 PM
Or was it Nebraska? Can't keep these American locations straight.



you were right the first time, Nevada is the only state in which prostitution is legal. just remember, prostitution and Area 51 go together.



VD February 09, 2013 4:23 PM
Per post, not per mention, Test123. You needn't wear out your Ctrl-V keys.




and if you read Scalzi's original proposal closely, i believe it only applies to primary posts by Vox himself. comment threads don't ( or didn't ) apply.

so, Scalzi has set a goal for Vox to reach 200 posts about him within 1 calendar year.

Anonymous GreyS February 09, 2013 7:15 PM  

"$60,000 in wasted cash -- just pledges, or actual confirmed donations?

Pledges, of course.


Actual donations don't matter. Think of it as 60,000 feelings.

Feelings > money.

(\ /)
( . .)
C(")(")

Anonymous Stilicho February 09, 2013 7:20 PM  

We really may need to have a caption contest for Gamma Rabbit, Right now I think Clay is leading with "Oh Noes". Of course, nothing is likely to be more amusing than the things ascribed to the fuzzy forcible futterer by the warren.

Anonymous Stilicho February 09, 2013 7:21 PM  

Actual donations don't matter. Think of it as 60,000 feelings.

"Hugs, not shrugs."

Meh.

Blogger foxmarks February 09, 2013 7:23 PM  

so, Scalzi has set a goal for Vox to reach 200 posts about him within 1 calendar year.

Seems to me that worrying about the number of name-checks misses the point. It is interesting to learn that the pledged total keeps going up, but does it really matter if, at the end of the year, there happen to be only 27 triggering events instead of the max?

The course, as I see it, is to carry on, posting McRapey's name only as often as is interesting and is necessary to make a point. It will be those in the warren who will be most disappointed in late November when they find they're 173 mentions short of the goal. They will miss the hateful rage of the RSHD, and lament their failure to raise the full donation for black lesbian abortions.

Bringing in Alinsky's rules was helpful. Dealing with people who don't crave affirmation and trying to get such people to care are #2 & #3 for rabbits.

There is no need to try "hurting" them by maxing their pledges. They will hurt themselves trying to get Vox to kick them again so they can feel the righteous affirmation of shared weakness.

Anonymous VD February 09, 2013 7:24 PM  

Aren't you guys getting bored with repeating yourselves over and over?

Steve, we spent an entire summer on Michelle Malkin and the Japanese Naval Invasion back in 2004. And that was without her or any of her defenders daring to fire back.

We haven't even gotten STARTED yet. For example, here is one very important lesson. If you know a guy has been in a techno band, no matter what you do, DO NOT GO ON THE RADIO AND TALK.

And especially don't say things like "McRapey" and "Rapey McRaperson"....

Anonymous Noah B. February 09, 2013 7:26 PM  

Gamma Rabbit is total surrender masquerading as victory. It's pretty hilarious. To top this, you'd have to do something like replace the board of the NAACP with klan members.

Anonymous Lulabelle February 09, 2013 7:26 PM  

bob k. mando - "what about the open, receptive mouth? the curled, slightly extended tongue? you're perfectly okay with that?"

lol. Oh, thanks so much. Some other disturbing qualities to notice.

Anonymous Stilicho February 09, 2013 7:26 PM  

Screwtape would never praise Gamma Rabbit with There was real crackling there; something to crunch; a rage, an egotism, a cruelty only just less robust than our own. It put up a delicious resistance to being devoured. It warmed your inwards when you’d got it down.

Good point Markku. Kipling mocked such timid sous thusly:

And Tomlinson took up the tale and spoke of his sin in life: --
"Once I ha' laughed at the power of Love and twice at the grip of the Grave,
And thrice I ha' patted my God on the head that men might call me brave."
The Devil he blew on a brandered soul and set it aside to cool: --
"Do ye think I would waste my good pit-coal on the hide of a brain-sick fool?
I see no worth in the hobnailed mirth or the jolthead jest ye did
That I should waken my gentlemen that are sleeping three on a grid."
Then Tomlinson looked back and forth, and there was little grace,
For Hell-Gate filled the houseless Soul with the Fear of Naked Space.
"Nay, this I ha' heard," quo' Tomlinson, "and this was noised abroad,
And this I ha' got from a Belgian book on the word of a dead French lord."
-- "Ye ha' heard, ye ha' read, ye ha' got, good lack! and the tale begins afresh --
Have ye sinned one sin for the pride o' the eye or the sinful lust of the flesh?"
Then Tomlinson he gripped the bars and yammered, "Let me in --
For I mind that I borrowed my neighbour's wife to sin the deadly sin."
The Devil he grinned behind the bars, and banked the fires high:
"Did ye read of that sin in a book?" said he; and Tomlinson said, "Ay!"
The Devil he blew upon his nails, and the little devils ran,
And he said: "Go husk this whimpering thief that comes in the guise of a man:
Winnow him out 'twixt star and star, and sieve his proper worth:
There's sore decline in Adam's line if this be spawn of earth."


Even in their sins, rabbits gonna rabbit.

Blogger foxmarks February 09, 2013 7:31 PM  

a guy has been in a techno band

The remix is going to be freakin' awesome. What ECC did to Dan Rather...

Anonymous Stilicho February 09, 2013 7:33 PM  

We haven't even gotten STARTED yet. For example, here is one very important lesson. If you know a guy has been in a techno band, no matter what you do, DO NOT GO ON THE RADIO AND TALK.

And especially don't say things like "McRapey" and "Rapey McRaperson"....


Just when I think this cannot become more amusing...perhaps there should be a video with Gamma Rabbit dancing...ironically, of course.

Blogger Markku February 09, 2013 7:35 PM  

I already made this point to Vox, but a Finnish techno track wouldn't never have been as successful, had a certain politician not stated with considerable gusto "I am not an atomic playboy!"

Anonymous Desiderius February 09, 2013 8:39 PM  

"First, nothing is over, one way or the other."

The rabbits are relying on reliance interests to maintain their (cultural) power.

VD recognizes that that upon which those reliance interests rely is inexorably wasting away.

Being impotent, in every sense, they can create no new ones.

Anonymous bob k. mando February 09, 2013 8:41 PM  

Lulabelle February 09, 2013 7:26 PM
lol. Oh, thanks so much. Some other disturbing qualities to notice.




"that which has been seen cannot be unseen." and that which i have seen leads me to infer that the Lambda Lagomorph could hardly be better prepared for a glory hole.

i think i'm pretty much done inspecting that particular illustration.

Anonymous Lulabelle February 09, 2013 8:46 PM  

"i think i'm pretty much done inspecting that particular illustration."

Eh, maybe. Let's see if any of the Dread Ilk animate it.

Anonymous VD February 09, 2013 8:53 PM  

You can always tell when someone is getting upset because they start using my given name. Which, of course, just gets the comment deleted.

But don't worry, Phoenician, we'll consider doing a special Phoenician in the Time of Romans remix just to commemorate your efforts on McRapey's behalf.

I have to say, I particularly liked the way he said "John Scalzi is a rapist" in the interview. Nice and authoritative, with real punch to it. And here I was just hoping for a single "McRapey".

Anonymous bob k. mando February 09, 2013 9:01 PM  

clearly, there is audio accompaniment in our future.

Anonymous test123 February 09, 2013 9:14 PM  

@ Phoenician

This is pure comedy gold:

I own your mental space.

First Scalzi made you his little bitch. And now I've made you my little bitch.

You'll have to face up to the fact that this isn't a coincidence. It seems to be in your nature to seek out a dominant male and make him treat you like a bottom.

-----lmao. Oh, the cult of the left does have such delusions of grandeur.

Like I said: it's that kid in the school yard who declares that he won a fight with a little slap and running away---all because hes terrified of an actual fight.

These little girls all think if they keep repeating something, it becomes true. That reality bends to conformity.

Cult of the left, on display. Poor little women.

Anonymous Krul February 09, 2013 9:14 PM  

Protip #2: If you plan to strike a tough posture, don't self-identify as an LGBT lavender bunny.

Protip #3: When responding to charges of rape, don't advertise your obsession with homosexual S&M.

(These are in response to a post by our Puni friend, which I am expecting to be deleted shortly.)

Anonymous Gx1080 February 09, 2013 9:21 PM  

Nice to see a visitor from The Bastion of Tolerance (tm) using gay as an insult. It helps to show why they are full of shit.

Though I would like to see less of the pink...thing.

Anonymous kh123 February 09, 2013 9:24 PM  

"It's 2013, dude. No-one cares anymore."

As was mentioned earlier:

And yet, here you are.

Anonymous kh123 February 09, 2013 9:28 PM  

"Pheonician"

In such a rush to relieve themselves they can't even tap out their username correctly.

Two hands on the keyboard, Pho; two hands.

Blogger Markku February 09, 2013 9:32 PM  

Especially since he was talking about leather daddies, that's a tad suspicious.

Anonymous Lulabelle February 09, 2013 9:49 PM  

"Especially since he was talking about leather daddies, that's a tad suspicious."

I see what you did there.

Excellent.

Anonymous Lulabelle February 09, 2013 9:51 PM  

"Nice to see a visitor from The Bastion of Tolerance (tm) using gay as an insult. It helps to show why they are full of shit."

Exactly.

Blogger tz February 09, 2013 9:52 PM  

It may be Pheonician. Fee-o-nice-ian. Lest it be pronounced: PHONEY-Shun.

Blogger tz February 09, 2013 10:06 PM  

Speaking of cardinal sins, note the curved dark line bisecting the letter gamma in the pink t-shirt. Gamma Rabbit has a big beer belly. A paunch. Morbidly Obese. A fatty. Even his knees are indiscernible. I only see one chin but that might be the angle. His waist looks twice as big as his chest.

Note that in the updated sidebar image, the line is missing.

Anonymous Daniel February 09, 2013 10:11 PM  

tz, for the sake of your immortal soul, stop staring at the rabbit.

Blogger tz February 09, 2013 10:49 PM  

It would be easier not to look at Gamma Rabbit if Vox wouldn't have it in all the posts and side-bar.

It is a bit like a really bad car-wreck. You know you shouldn't gawk.

I'm trying to avoid staring at it as much as possible (though I would note the "tittle" in the "I" in the text "Rabbit" in the original is in the shape of a heart). I have to read through Kurt Koch's Occult ABC to see if I can identify it. Or see if I can get a copy of the Malleus Malificarum. Or perhaps see if someone who has attempted to illustrate Lovecraft's works. If the Necronomichron was real, Gamma Rabbit would appear there.

Now I regret not collecting all the info on the pagan origins of Easter. Somehow GR seems to unify "the Easter Bunny" and something popular in Carthage before the Romans stopped it. Or maybe it was the Aztecs before Cortez. Somewhere in ancient temples, there is a graven image...

It is rare that some ancient evil returns in such a way to the 21st century. It is like trying not to watch a solar eclipse.

Anonymous bob k. mando February 09, 2013 11:29 PM  

oh god.

the rabbit in the sidebar doesn't have the gamma on it anymore.

stop it Vox, you're killing me.


I'M TRYING NOT TO LOOK AT THE DAMN THING.

Anonymous bob k. mando February 09, 2013 11:32 PM  

is Rapey McRaperson the passive or active party in the act?

because, as you know, feminists like to say that "all sex is rape".

Anonymous kh123 February 10, 2013 12:10 AM  

The rabbit on the sidebar's getting bigger.

I predict it morphing completely into an Elder One by the time all's finished.

Anonymous TheExpat February 10, 2013 2:26 AM  

4chan's Pedobeaqr, meet VP's Rape-o-rabbit

Anonymous Krul February 10, 2013 2:51 AM  

The rabbit on the sidebar's getting bigger. -kh123

No, it's not getting bigger.

It's getting closer.

Blogger IM2L844 February 10, 2013 5:58 AM  

If you know a guy has been in a techno band, no matter what you do, DO NOT GO ON THE RADIO AND TALK.

Ominous foreshadowing?

Blogger IM2L844 February 10, 2013 6:06 AM  

It IS supposed to be a male rabbit, right?

No. Didn't you see the camel toe?

...just for tz

Blogger sconzey February 10, 2013 7:47 AM  

I just showed my wife the Rabbit of Rape and asked her: "What would you think of a man who takes this as his emblem?"
Wife: "That's pretty wierd."
Me: "And some guys want that on a t-shirt."
Wife: "They're trolls right?"

Blogger LP 999/Eliza February 10, 2013 8:24 AM  

Nein! Never bored with McScaRARA topic. I wonder if it will ever not be funny for me. And we are helping others so its all good.

Carry on!

Anonymous Lulabelle February 10, 2013 10:26 AM  

"It IS supposed to be a male rabbit, right?

No. Didn't you see the camel toe?"

Okaaaaaay. Just when I think all of the gross attributes have been pointed out.

Blogger The Rowe February 10, 2013 11:43 AM  

Well someone has to get the ball rolling.
Rapey the rabbit

Anonymous GreyS February 10, 2013 11:57 AM  

" If you know a guy has been in a techno band, no matter what you do, DO NOT GO ON THE RADIO AND TALK."

!!!!!!!!!

Blogger tz February 10, 2013 9:38 PM  

Okaaaaaay. Just when I think all of the gross attributes have been pointed out.

It is a gift that keeps on giving.

You've seen the monochrome and "young" versions too?

Me: "And some guys want that on a t-shirt."
Wife: "They're trolls right?"


And when you said others wanted it as a tattoo?

The only thing I find unhealthy about Gammy Bunny is that I might take the hyperventilation due to laughter to the point of passing out.

I need to get a color copy for this summer when I'm swimming underwater. I should be able to beat David Blaine's world record.

Anonymous BlueSkies February 10, 2013 9:50 PM  

I've read here for years, I've seen some crazy things written - Cedarford anyone? - and... you know, I am no Super Alpha but the idea that a man, a grown ass man at that, would knowingly and approvingly associate himself with an androgynous pink rabbit makes my blood boil. And he defends it, and disparages people here?

Next it'll be a purple cactus.

Blogger tz February 10, 2013 9:51 PM  

the rabbit in the sidebar doesn't have the gamma on it anymore.

I noted it doesn't have the upper paunch line, so that is an improvement.

One serious warning is that gamma radiation causes mutation.

Though it does not tend to mute those affected.

Note the palms out and the pink circle iron-man-repulsors. Repulsive indeed.

If the arms were out ready to give a hug it would be bad enough. Or if the feet indicated it was approaching, but it appears to be retreating.

Blogger tz February 10, 2013 9:57 PM  

with an androgynous pink rabbit...

1. It does appear to be a Klein-Felter (XXY chromosome). Assuming it is not actually female.
2. It is not pink, it is magenta. Purple like the suggested cactus. (I really, really do not want to download and manipulate the color table as it might be worse).
3. I also really, really, don't want to find a soundtrack of SNL's "Pat" because it would probably work so well it would increase the creepiness.
4. It isn't wearing any pants, but that doesn't seem to matter.

Blogger tz February 10, 2013 10:33 PM  

The monochrome version - the filled in greek letter with eyes and mouth at least looks like it might be angry. There is something there. It seems serious and I don't have the urge to guffaw (this was a real problem at church). But note that the creation by the vacuum carrion bird has all but disappeared from discussion. The young version just seems sad, innocent, naive, or even retarded, so might be sympathetic or pitiable. But not respectable. Sad.

It is the magenta opus, the fearful, cornered, surrendering, cowardly rabbit of ambiguous gender that is the creepy one. The artist shows genius. Probably insanity or evil as well, but pure genius.

Anonymous Lulabelle February 10, 2013 11:46 PM  

"You've seen the monochrome and "young" versions too?"

No, I haven't. Do I want to? (I'm guessing the answer is "no").

Were they posted as a link? I generally don't click on links.

Blogger tz February 11, 2013 7:38 PM  

The monochrome is below the original on Scalzi's blog. A few days later on his came the young version, which appeared on Alpha Game shortly thereafter. They aren't nearly as creepy.

Anonymous Anonymous February 17, 2013 8:45 PM  

The deadline for declaring and presenting a platform, was February 16. Who . . . pray tell . . . are the 2013 SFWA Candidates for President?

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