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Wednesday, February 20, 2013

Mailvox: surviving in the coming chaos

DA seeks advice on the matter:
Dear Rabbit Hunter Extraordinaire,

I write to you seeking your help in how millennial young male should go about preparing for the future. To provide some context, I am a 20 year college sophomore. Additional not-insignificant details about me include black, upper middle class, Traditional Catholic, and if it helps, my college major is in computer engineering. ( I included this to get your opinion on the usefulness of my degree. I also add that I will leave college debt free.). Forgive me if I come across as attempting a snow-flaking/woe is me act, but my circumstances do leave me fairly isolated. To make matters worse, my political sentiments lean very heavily towards the far right( think Walter Williams) and I'd rather avoid getting caught in the crossfire between the "vibrant" cohorts.

I've been reading/lurking/commenting occasionally on your blog for the past three years and your writing has contributed greatly to my current understanding of economics and history. Though my knowledge of said topics is not nearly as comprehensive, it doesn't require a genius to know that current times are bad and are going to get a whole lot worse.

Having said all that, what are your recommendations as to what I should do to hopefully survive the coming state of entropy? I understand that providing a definitive response to this may be difficult but anything at all would be very much appreciated.
Cue a few thousand little rabbit minds exploding.  Anyhow, being black, intelligent, aware, and intrinsically attractive to SWPL's seeking token black acquaintaces to prove their SWPLness, DA potentially finds himself in an excellent position to not only survive, but thrive, in the increasingly difficult times ahead.  What looks like a serious disadvantage given the increasing polarity of the American racial divides could actually prove to be an opportunity for a young man of his abilities.

The greatest advantage will be to do as the rabbit people do, but in reverse; a sort of wolf in rabbit's clothing.  By taking advantage of the SWPLs' desperate desire to be seen as anti-racist, DA will be able to write his own ticket so long as he keeps his very incorrect ideology to himself.  At the same time, DA will have to realize that the days of whites pretending to be color-blind are over.  Only those SWPL who live in 98.9% white communities can still affect the pretense any longer, but the end of nominal color-blindness will make SWPLs even more desperate to seek absolution from him than they already are.  The more racial polarization, the more the left-liberal white class will be seeking to cling to their living, breathing, get-out-of-racism free cards.

I doubt it has escaped DA's attention how certain whites fall all over themselves for the likes of Obama and RGIII.  It's an advantage freely offered to any sufficiently well-spoken black man, so why not avail oneself of it?  The key to success here is to always exceed their secretly lowered expectations.  Being a former white sprinter who is now an American soccer player in Europe, this is something with which I am very familiar myself.  The less they expect, the better you tend to look.

The degree is potentially a good one, particularly as it came debt-free, but programming can be a career dead end and credentials mean little in the programming world.  DA should be careful to keep up on the latest fads and shoot for design and management opportunities as they present themselves.  But, at the same time, he should insist on keeping up with his programming, as the most valuable managers are those that genuinely understand the issues involved.  He should stay away from the false security and bureaucratic mediocrity of the large corporations and look for opportunities in small-to-medium size firms where he can take advantage of his ability to exceed expectations.

In terms of avoiding the crossfire from the vibrant cohorts, the best place to be is in the SWPL strongholds.  Being upper middle class, he'll be more than welcome among them so long as he doesn't burst their bubbles by betraying what he thinks of their ludicrous equalitarianism.

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137 Comments:

Anonymous Rob Parker February 20, 2013 7:22 AM  

Is he a cornhole brother?

Anonymous Hong Hu Shi February 20, 2013 7:28 AM  

Yikes. I think you meant "cornball".

Blogger Joe A. February 20, 2013 7:33 AM  

Damn. Sounds like he will do just fine. I stand no chance compared to his current trajectory. Just keep up the pace of not making any major mistakes.

Anonymous Geoff February 20, 2013 7:36 AM  

All good advice, but the only great advice for him comes from John Derbyshire: Get a Government Job! Federal, and preferably something in DHS or some agency working on Obamacare. Those are growth agencies.

The DoD? Not so much. England had to choose, after WW2, between free medical care or a meaningful military. It chose free medical care. That's our future...but we won't end up with either.

Anonymous Miserman February 20, 2013 7:48 AM  

The rabbits who are convinced that VD is raciss just had their feeble, finger-pointing accusations blow to bits.

Blogger GF Dad February 20, 2013 7:57 AM  

I would recommend he stick around college for another semester or two and add power engineering and/or controls engineering classes (both formerly part of the EE core curriculum). We can't find enough young controls or power engineers. Add programming skills for the smart devices that are in control of generating and distribution systems and he will be able to write his own ticket.

Anonymous DDuck February 20, 2013 8:09 AM  

Rabbit Hunter Extraordinaire = Elmer Fudd?

Anyone have any good rabbit recipes?

I prefer my rabbit braised cacciatore style and served with a nice Barolo.

Anonymous antonym February 20, 2013 8:10 AM  

If you really want easy money, become a right wing activist. Mainstream conservatives will go wild over a black man who opposes welfare and illegal immigration. They'll point to you as proof they can hold their views and not be racist.

Blogger Hamilton February 20, 2013 8:13 AM  

1. Be ready to zig when everyone else is zagging. By this I mean stay the hell out of debt.
2. Hopefully you are a believer in Christ. If so, cling to his Word. Read it, bury it deep your heart. You need it now, but you will be desperate for it when reality hits.
3. Vox's advice on not betraying your real thoughts is excellent. It's a great idea to get started immediately, it will help discipline your mind and create some mental toughness.
4. NEVER forget the reality that you know is coming. Our entire culture is focused on getting the masses to forget the brick wall we are speeding toward. If you forget reality you'll find yourself making mistakes that could cost you dearly in the future.
5. Learn to find pleasure in the small things in life. Things like a good night's sleep, a full stomach, laughter, a sunny day, giving, etc, those are the daily beauties that most people don't recognize.
6. Help people. It is truely a pleasure. Just make sure you are actually helping them, which isn't always the obvious action.

Anonymous Rally February 20, 2013 8:15 AM  

Getting a useful degree and doing so with no debt. DA, you are well ahead in the race already. Don't look back.

Once you're in a career, you should be in position to earn some decent bucks. Don't blow it on a condo in a city, try to find a home with a decent amount of land. Learn to grow some of your own food. Just in case. Plus it's better for you than what they sell in the stores. Exercise your second amendment rights. You're Catholic, good. Find a good woman, be fruitful and multiply. Homeschool the kids. One day you'll need them. Good luck.

Anonymous JartStar February 20, 2013 8:15 AM  

DA come to Houston, the unemployment rate for IT workers is effectively zero and you'd be hired as soon as you arrive with your degree. Your politics will be welcome too.

Anonymous VryeDenker February 20, 2013 8:29 AM  

I wonder if I shouldn't also look for a nice IT job in Houston. I would be an African immigrant after all.

Anonymous Stingray February 20, 2013 8:29 AM  

The rabbits who are convinced that VD is raciss just had their feeble, finger-pointing accusations blow to bits.

Not really, you see, because he's not really black. How can he be with the beliefs he holds?

Anonymous TLM February 20, 2013 8:30 AM  

Don't act like a nigger.

Anonymous Athor Pel February 20, 2013 8:35 AM  

"JartStar February 20, 2013 8:15 AM

DA come to Houston, the unemployment rate for IT workers is effectively zero and you'd be hired as soon as you arrive with your degree. Your politics will be welcome too."





I'll second this.

The oil industry is doing really well right now.

Don't limit yourself in the jobs you go after. Your knowledge of basic engineering principles as well as adequate programming skills will allow you to do many more jobs than many would at first consider appropriate.

My company has a policy of moving young engineers from job to job in order for them to learn as much as they can about the business/industry as a whole before they settle into one discipline. That's on the job training. The company isn't doing this altruistically, in a few short years they get someone with the skills to problem solve in whatever capacity the company might need them; within reason.

Other companies likely do the same. If they are smart they don't want their engineers to be one trick ponies.

Anonymous stg58/Animal Mother February 20, 2013 8:35 AM  

The rabbits who are convinced that VD is raciss just had their feeble, finger-pointing accusations blow to bits.

Not really, you see, because he's not really black. How can he be with the beliefs he holds?


False consciousness!

Blogger tz February 20, 2013 8:36 AM  

I'm not sure Vox saw the Trad Catholic - If so then attracting a bunch of SWPLs isn't as useful. Is your vocation marriage or something else?

Computer engineering sounds better, but have younbeen taught recursion and pointers (C not Java)? Hardware? Most college trained programmers are almost useless. The ones that aren't are turning Raspberry PIs into cell phones, hacking Arduinos, and don't need a source level debugger for anything. Security is another area that is engineering v.s. IT.

You may want to try contracting, and find a place where costs are low and where infrastructure is simple (worst case it will be best to have amish neighbors).

One more thing about the Trad Catholic. The liturgy is beautiful but the point is not the form or rules, but to love God - and trust him completely. When you aren't attached to things of this world you won't worry. Find a church that is both reverent and on fire with love. Pray, readnscripture and writings ofmthe saints, and ask to be holy. Eternity is more important than the next few decades.

Anonymous Orville February 20, 2013 8:37 AM  

Get a really thick skin for all the Uncle Tom and Oreo comments.

Blogger James Dixon February 20, 2013 8:44 AM  

> DA come to Houston...

I would probably second that. From what I saw when I was in Houston a few years ago, it's still a growth city, and the IT opportunities are many and varied.

Also, if you haven't already, play with Linux. It and open source in general are a growth field in IT. The greater the range of your abilities, the more options you will have. Don't limit yourself to a single OS/platform.

But Vox is correct that there's an upper limit in programming/IT. Unless you move into management your upper income is probably currently in the lower $100K range. That's more than enough to get by, raise a family, and have a good life; but some people want more than that.

Anonymous Samson J. February 20, 2013 8:49 AM  

DA will be able to write his own ticket so long as he keeps his very incorrect ideology to himself.

The problem is that hiding one's true self from everyone all day, every day, is a pretty unpleasant way to live. I'm not sure I would ever recommend it to anyone.

I would recommend he stick around college for another semester or two and add power engineering and/or controls engineering classes (both formerly part of the EE core curriculum). We can't find enough young controls or power engineers.

Interesting. I've often thought if I could go back and do things again, I'd become a power engineer. Wielding the awesome forces of electricity sounds incredibly fun.

Anonymous Hoffman February 20, 2013 8:55 AM  

"Get a really thick skin"

I really second this. You go against every stereotype and people hate those who don't fit their preconceived notions.

@ Vox: What advice would you have for young men in general who are just starting out? What the fuck advice should I give my brother when I know college is a farce, debt is a yoke for life, the economy will collapse sometime in our lifetime (not to mention possible racial wars)? What areas/industries do see having growth/surviving the coming crises in the short or long term?
What the hell can a young man do to get ahead today in life, particularly when he can't play the affirmative action card?

Anonymous buzzcut February 20, 2013 8:55 AM  

DA,
Get the book "Whatever Happened to Penny Candy?," by Richard J. Maybury. half.com is the best place to find it. It explains what money really is, as opposed to the lies we've all been told for decades.

I would also recommend his book, "Ancient Rome - How It Affects You Today," for a look at Fascism vs. Freedom.

Anonymous Peter Garstig February 20, 2013 8:55 AM  

Don't fully agree on the programming advice. Excellent programmers earn alot of money, simply because there are very few excellent programmers. I wouldn't trade one excellent programmer with 100 off-the-mill indian IT specialists.

The key is security, performance, flexibility and maintenance.

When the infrastructure will start to crumble, there will be great need of people knowing how to fix things. And I mean actually fixing it, not discussing what and drawing up how to fix it.

Anonymous daddynichol February 20, 2013 8:57 AM  

As a way of helping others, I would recommend that you mentor young people subjected to self-defeating lifestyles. Show them that success lies in loving God, expanding your mental abilities, hard work and commitment to traditional family values. Lead by example so as to counter the Hip-Hop narcissistic mental ghetto.

Anonymous JW February 20, 2013 9:00 AM  

"my political sentiments lean very heavily towards the far right( think Walter Williams)"

DA don't fall into the right/left paradim. The left wants everyone who doesn't believe as they do to be thought of as 'far right' or 'right wing extremist'. Walter Williams is an educated man who makes sense in his writings and speeches; he is not 'far right', he is main stream. It is the left that is 'far left' but they and the media have been able to label everyone else as far right.

OpenID herenvardo February 20, 2013 9:14 AM  

I second what tz said. Don't get too much rad in your trad - you might have noticed you're already too dark for some Catholic Traddies. The lives of the saints is a good start, but there are some excellent blogs with good straight teaching:
tofspot.blogspot.com
www.patheos.com/blogs/markshea
www.patheos.com/blogs/badcatholic - but you probably already know about that one? :)

And remember, no-one ever reached the end of their life wishing they'd spent more time in the office. If your vocation is marriage - then yeah, what Rally said.

Anonymous Athor Pel February 20, 2013 9:18 AM  

" tz February 20, 2013 8:36 AM
...
Computer engineering sounds better, but have younbeen taught recursion and pointers (C not Java)?"
...




Pointers...

I'm inclined to believe pointers are a tool of the devil. In the context of C, it's low level programming wedged into a mostly high level language. Pointers matter when every bit and byte matters. We have an abundance of memory to work with nowadays, why saddle a young programmer with bit twiddling? Why even use a language that so easily allows a programmer to create more memory leaks than would be there otherwise?

Yes it can be used for some awfully clever hacks, I mean programming solutions. And they usually render as obfuscated code which isn't helpful in regards to code maintenance in the long term.

As for recursion, not every language can handle recursion and not all that many problems yield to a recursive solution.

I'm not saying don't learn about these things but also don't preach them like some commandment from the mountain top of God.

If I'm getting any of this wrong please correct me but from my limited understanding of programming as a profession this is as I see things.

Anonymous JartStar February 20, 2013 9:20 AM  

What's interesting about Vox's response is that the coming chaos doesn't sound too bad if some kid in college with a CS degree can actually put it to use versus having to spend his days collecting the morning dew in skulls while fighting off the irradiated ghoul hordes with a sharpened shovel.

Anonymous VryeDenker February 20, 2013 9:42 AM  

Learn Java. It runs everywhere. You can develop anything from embedded software to enterprise systems, web applications and Android apps using the same language and tools (Eclipse is best IMHO, NetBeans 2nd).

I'm not saying "learn nothing else ever". I'm just saying that it's the most flexible place to start if you're aiming at software development. Most languages outside of niches look like Java, so it will be easy to learn e.g. C# or Scala once you've got the hang of it.

Being a SysAdmin or other hardware/maintenence type is much too stressful for my liking and I can't see their jobs being very much fun. Something to do with software is better for your health and sanity.

Blogger Markku February 20, 2013 9:44 AM  

why saddle a young programmer with bit twiddling?

Because there are still embedded devices where C is the only option.

Blogger Markku February 20, 2013 9:47 AM  

And it makes you be instinctively uncomfortable with the new-operator in garbage collected languages. You're going to set the pointer to null as soon as possible (so that the gc can reap it as soon as possible if it chooses to do so) just because leaving the pointer around feels so wrong.

Anonymous Elmer Fudge, Rabbit Hunter Extraordinaire (friend of Sexual Chocolate and sprach von Teufelhunden) February 20, 2013 9:53 AM  

Speaking of minds exploding (not exclusive to rabbits and Britney Spears types) I present Dr. Moti Nissani:

To especially DA, a self-admitted wet-nosed [1] college type seeking sage advice of his elders/superiors, I would first direct one to Dr. Nissani's resume/bio. Pay very special attention to the treatment he makes via Spanish philosopher Ortega y Gassett: this modern curse of specialization. [2]

Then one can go on to fully appreciate his latest contextual endeavor:

WHY DO WE LIVE IN AN UPSIDE-DOWN WORLD? [3][4]



---------------
[1] You do need to learn to abandon the "left/right paradigm." May I suggest Dr. Antony Sutton.

[2] I have always, since the genesis of my adulthood, sensed the perils of compartmentalization. Even before my military intelligence training, in college as an initial liberal arts major, specialization has been a burden for me. To this very day, I cannot divorce myself from multiple interests and disciplines. I may never be the master of one, but am still learning to be content with being the servant of all.

[3] Any fool attempting to make antisemitic charges against VT, is just that -- a fool.

[4] A Revolutionary’s Toolkit (I like what Moti says specifically about -- conspiracy)

* DA et al, do make VT a daily stop. Surpasses LRC, and Infowars et al. [5] Yes, it is certainly controversial. But, that is how one learns. We learn via dissent. Not by full agreement with an ideology.

[5] Best example of this: FBI Terrorism and the False Flag War. The ideological and mythological subtext behind all of this is rooted in Freemasonry and the Church of Satan. (sorry Nate, but you will have to take up your grievance with Duff. Mind you, he is a superior marksman to you. [Vietnam Combat Marine Sniper])

Anonymous JartStar February 20, 2013 9:54 AM  

Because there are still embedded devices where C is the only option.

Yes, but one could spend their entire post college programming career and never deal with an embedded device. I agree that it should be taught in school as it helps one understand the foundations of programming, but it is a bit like knowing how to subnet by hand.

BTW Markku, how are you liking C#?

Anonymous Viking February 20, 2013 9:56 AM  

I would say that Electrical Engineering would be a better choice than Computer Engineering but if you are past your first year I wouldn't change your major, just concentrate more on being an engineer than on being a programmer. Programming is easy and as VD mentioned it can quickly become a dead end. Any engineer can program if he has to. Few programmers can bring engineering methodology to a project.

Anonymous Tad February 20, 2013 10:04 AM  

@Vox Day

Anyhow, being black, intelligent, aware, and intrinsically attractive to SWPL's seeking token black acquaintaces to prove their SWPLness, DA potentially finds himself in an excellent position to not only survive, but thrive...

Your mistake is thinking other white folk think like you. They don't.

In fact, normal white people don't. Rather they...

1. Don't seek "Token Black Acquaintances". They seek Acquaintances.

2. Haven't a "desperate desire to be seen as anti-racist" but rather desperate to see there isn't racism

3. Aren't "whites pretending to be color-blind", but rather whites who simply don't care about color.

4. Are not "desperate to seek absolution", but rather concerned that there are still those who think there never was a reason to be be ashamed for past acts of racism.

In the end, you shouldn't project your own tainted understanding and view of other races on others you don't know.

Anonymous The other skeptic February 20, 2013 10:05 AM  

When the break comes, it will be dangerous to be black in a predominantly white area and it will be dangerous to be an accomplished black person in a predominantly black area.

When whites come to understand how stupid they were about vibrancy they will seek revenge ...

As to computer engineering, it will be good until the collapse comes. Especially so if you are competent, because companies need people of color on their staff.

However, you should also get other skills, like, say, metal working. Learn to use milling machines, lathes, and so forth.

Anonymous Herman the German February 20, 2013 10:10 AM  

herenvardo wrote: you might have noticed you're already too dark for some Catholic Traddies.....

---Wow, really? As a former Trad Cath (happy Agnostic now), that was never my experience. Too dark for trad caths?? Please explain when/where you've seen evidence of this. Thanks. :-)

Anonymous The other skeptic February 20, 2013 10:11 AM  

Yes it can be used for some awfully clever hacks, I mean programming solutions. And they usually render as obfuscated code which isn't helpful in regards to code maintenance in the long term.

Ahhh, I see you are a member of the school of "Any fool can code."

The reality, IMO, is that there is still a lot of code out there written in C and C++ (although those are very different languages) and Oracle (and Sun) screwed up wrt Java recently.

Further, the high priests of education are forever seeking something new and different for its own sake and have moved on to Python.

Anonymous Slowpoke February 20, 2013 10:12 AM  

Damon Thomas, is that you?

Anonymous Agent Asper February 20, 2013 10:12 AM  

Shut up, Tad.

Jeez

Anonymous Mike T February 20, 2013 10:13 AM  

A computer engineering degree is typically not a programming degree. I'm surprised that no one has pointed this out yet. It's more like a specialized EE degree with some low-level programming courses thrown in. Every CE program I've heard of is like that, and that's what a coworker of mine who studied CE at UVA experienced.

Besides, programming is only a dead end if you decide you want to be the geek locked in a cubicle or lab all day. There is plenty of room for growth if you are willing to start your own business or become a consultant. Most successful tech companies have technical cofounders.

Blogger Nate February 20, 2013 10:14 AM  

"(sorry Nate, but you will have to take up your grievance with Duff. Mind you, he is a superior marksman to you. [Vietnam Combat Marine Sniper])"

dude.

He's 137 years old. He may have been a good shoot 50 years ago. Now he's just another lazy old bastard running his mouth.

Blogger Markku February 20, 2013 10:15 AM  

BTW Markku, how are you liking C#?

It suits me well, since the C++ syntax is what I remember best. If it weren't for that, though, then Python's would be the superior syntax. The nice thing is that we chose Photon Server, which also uses C# like Unity, so client-side code works on server-side and vice versa.

The not so nice thing is that Photon Server only works on Windows platform. Mono is still too inefficient for such heavy lifting, they claim.

Anonymous Josh February 20, 2013 10:16 AM  

1. Don't seek "Token Black Acquaintances". They seek Acquaintances.2. Haven't a "desperate desire to be seen as anti-racist" but rather desperate to see there isn't racism3. Aren't "whites pretending to be color-blind", but rather whites who simply don't care about color.4. Are not "desperate to seek absolution", but rather concerned that there are still those who think there never was a reason to be be ashamed for past acts of racism.

1) Tad, do you have any black friends?

2) This ties into your first point. If they don't have black friends, they are racist. So they befriend a black person so that they aren't racist.

3) Do you support affirmative action?

4) Why should a white person today feel guilt or shame because of what other white people did years ago?

Blogger Markku February 20, 2013 10:18 AM  

As to computer engineering, it will be good until the collapse comes.

Give me a 10$ 8-bit embedded module, an assault rifle, some actuators and some sensors, and I'll show you how wrong you are.

Anonymous Mystery Man February 20, 2013 10:20 AM  

Your mistake is thinking other white folk think like you. They don't.

Because he claims to be perfectly average, all the time. Every single day.

In fact, normal white people don't.

And you're proposing that, say, YOU are "normal"?

1. Don't seek "Token Black Acquaintances". They seek Acquaintances.

As evidenced by the token-minority characters in most television shows and movies.

2. Haven't a "desperate desire to be seen as anti-racist" but rather desperate to see there isn't racism

As evidenced by the frequent use of "racist" as a shaming tactic--and sometimes a nuclear strike.

3. Aren't "whites pretending to be color-blind", but rather whites who simply don't care about color.

A mind-reader among us. Fancy that.

4. Are not "desperate to seek absolution", but rather concerned that there are still those who think there never was a reason to be be ashamed for past acts of racism.

And, feeling ashamed of those "past acts of racism" that they themselves never committed, they strive to make it right for those who never experienced "past acts of racism". That way, nobody can hold them accountable, and they can walk away.

That's not "seeking absolution", oh no.

In the end, you shouldn't project your own tainted understanding and view of other races on others you don't know.

Like implying that someone's got a mancrush?

Anonymous Tad February 20, 2013 10:21 AM  

@Josh

1) Tad, do you have any black friends?

A couple, as well as some white friends, orange friends, and one or two green friends.

Anonymous Mystery Man February 20, 2013 10:22 AM  

A couple, as well as some white friends, orange friends, and one or two green friends.

Someone's LSD experiment is still ongoing.

Anonymous Tad February 20, 2013 10:22 AM  

@Josh

3) Do you support affirmative action?

I support affirmative action based on economic conditions.

Blogger Nate February 20, 2013 10:23 AM  

"Give me a 10$ 8-bit embedded module, an assault rifle, some actuators and some sensors, and I'll show you how wrong you are."

See?

This is why you don't fuck with Finns. they are liable to end up carrying your ears around on a necklace.

Anonymous Tad February 20, 2013 10:24 AM  

@Josh

4) Why should a white person today feel guilt or shame because of what other white people did years ago?

It's not a matter of feeling shame for what other white people did years ago. It's a matter of feeling shame for what America did. Leaving slavery aside as shame for supporting that institution shouldn't be an issue, there are the myriad of racists policies that America and Americans promoted and accepted that deserve to be considered shameful.

Anonymous Cryan Ryan February 20, 2013 10:27 AM  

DA,

Vox probably gave good advice.

It would seem the trick will be not how to take advantage of all the opportunities, but how to avoid the pitfalls.

Take these thoughts to the bank.

1. the biggest threat to your safety is young black thugs with pistols.

2. The biggest threat to your financial security is the child support enforcement industry.

3. The biggest threat to your health is diabetes and heart disease brought upon by a high wheat/high sugar diet. (look around)

Do not believe women who say they are taking birth control. And make sure you flush all used condoms. Your seed is a meal ticket for a fat, white, slut who likes to bang black guys. If you relish the thought of a whore like that raising your kid in an environment of revolving door gang bangs, while you get to foot the bill at $1000 a month, then go for it. But you've been warned.

The state government will get matching funds for every dollar they can squeeze out of you, and they will follow you to the end of the earth to garnish your wages, take your drivers license, and generally try to bleed you dry, all the time paying an obese, diabetic, money sucking leech who will probably have several more children by several more men, because the incentives are there for her to do so.

Good luck to you.

Anonymous Tad February 20, 2013 10:29 AM  

@Mystery

What makes them "token" minority characters, rather than simply characters and if they are "token" why are not the white characters also "token"?

And, the use of the term "racists" isn't a shaming strategy. It's merely an adjective, like "good" or "Fast" or "Ugly" or "Dumb".

Anonymous VD February 20, 2013 10:30 AM  

"whites who simply don't care about color" and are simultaneously "desperate to see there isn't racism"

Homologic at its finest. Even the most virulent racists, black, white, and yellow, don't care as much about color as the self-appointed anti-racist.

And that's five. Shut up, Tad.

Blogger Nate February 20, 2013 10:31 AM  

"In the end, you shouldn't project your own tainted understanding and view of other races on others you don't know."

Physician...

heal thyself.

Anonymous Mystery Man February 20, 2013 10:32 AM  

I support affirmative action based on economic conditions.

Translation: Until all you peasants are equally broke and miserable.

Anonymous Josh February 20, 2013 10:35 AM  

I support affirmative action based on economic conditions.

Well that contradicts the "not caring about race" bit.

Well done, madam.

Anonymous Edjamacator February 20, 2013 10:36 AM  

It's not a matter of feeling shame for what other white people did years ago. It's a matter of feeling shame for what America did. Leaving slavery aside as shame for supporting that institution shouldn't be an issue, there are the myriad of racists policies that America and Americans promoted and accepted that deserve to be considered shameful.

So what? Why should I care what Americans did in the past when I wasn't there to decide policy or speak out against it? Why should I feel shame for decisions made by other people?

Oh, and did you answer those other direct questions put to you about guns yet?

Anonymous rycamor February 20, 2013 10:36 AM  

I would say VD's advice holds well for the short term (within the decade), but outside of that, I would have serious qualms about following the SWPL affinity. In the end, that will force you into long-term associations with a dying sector of the culture. I see no way around it. The diversity-minded white liberal urbanites--even though they wield the power now--have a short shelf-life. If there is a serious economic crunch, these people will have no idea how to survive. If--as Nate says--2015 is the marker year for serious chaos, your time with the SWPL might even be shorter than a decade.

In terms of the socio-cultural landscape, yes, I think you will find a resurgence of anti-black racism in large sectors of the population (especially in the lower-middle classes and below). And there will doubtless be militant white supremacist groups who seek to establish enclaves somewhere in the country. But I think there will also be plenty of libertarian/right communities who would welcome a black member as long as he is a) anti-government, b) pro-gun, c) willing to pull his own weight.

If there is real economic chaos in the works, community is golden. Finding a community (preferably in the country) that will welcome you, watch your back (and expect you to watch theirs), and be willing to work together to establish local farming/gardening exchanges and community security measures is what you want to focus on in the long term. Learn some survival skills. Computer programming will always be valuable in the long term, if there is stability in the land, but if the power goes out, and the internet goes dark in your area, what are you going to do?

So my recommendation would be to take advantage of your natural assets now, but prepare for the hard times. Graduate, dive into programming (or tech management), make money in the short term, but don't spend it on fripperies. Buy land, gold, tools, hard assets, and make your plans for the long term.

Anonymous Mystery Man February 20, 2013 10:38 AM  

What makes them "token" minority characters, rather than simply characters and if they are "token" why are not the white characters also "token"?

1. If the character was specifically added for purposes of "racial/gender/orientation balance".
2. If the casting company was directed to seek persons of specific racial composition for a particular role.

There are other, less obvious tells. Don't play stupid.

And, the use of the term "racists" isn't a shaming strategy. It's merely an adjective, like "good" or "Fast" or "Ugly" or "Dumb".

Ah yes. "Ugly" is a major career-killer. People will flee instinctively from someone who has been dubbed "ugly" by the elites.

Blogger James Dixon February 20, 2013 10:46 AM  

> And you're proposing that, say, YOU are "normal"?

Since Tad is Jewish, it's even questionable to call him white. much less normal.

Anonymous Mystery Man February 20, 2013 10:48 AM  

In fact, I'd argue that if we can't muster a little bit of shame for past acts, even though not our own, then we prove ourselves lowly creatures that likely can't be trusted to act for the betterment of our families and others.

Express your "category shame", please. Express your shame for the abnormally high rate of child molestation by your fellow homosexuals, and for the Christians that Jews murdered back in the first century.

If you're not ashamed of these things you didn't personally do but were done by the categories to which you belong by (allegedly) accident of birth, you're a lowly creature who can't be trusted to act for thee betterment of your family or others.

Anonymous Mystery Man February 20, 2013 10:50 AM  

Since Tad is Jewish, it's even questionable to call him white. much less normal.

Well, since Tad is a sodomite, he's already not normal. That was kind of my point.

Anonymous paradox February 20, 2013 10:54 AM  

Kind of OT but, sometimes even Muslims under stand asymmetrical warfare.

Anonymous Jeromus February 20, 2013 10:58 AM  

there are the myriad of racists policies that America and Americans promoted and accepted that deserve to be considered shameful.

Like affirmative action.

Anonymous Kickass February 20, 2013 10:58 AM  

Marry a white woman and both of you learn Spanish so we can watch Scooby's head explode. Also, there is something to be said for those who seize an opportunity for seizing power. I found it interesting how Wycleff Jean went down to Haiti after their earthquack and basically announced he was in charge. It really should have been planned better, I bet it could be done.

Anonymous Kickass February 20, 2013 10:59 AM  

Nah, I like earthquack better.

Blogger Markku February 20, 2013 11:01 AM  

Said embedded module, airplane servos, some hand grenades and a numeric keyboard can be extremely useful too.

Anonymous ck February 20, 2013 11:02 AM  

"Additional not-insignificant details about me include black, upper middle class, Traditional Catholic, and if it helps, my college major is in computer engineering."

"Having said all that, what are your recommendations as to what I should do to hopefully survive the coming state of entropy?"

Based on what you've described about yourself, you might be the right kind of candidate to jump into the fire head first and help all the rest of us "survive" the emerging entropy. Consider a vocation to the priesthood or an order like the Dominicans: http://www.op.org/en

Anonymous Kickass February 20, 2013 11:02 AM  

@ Tad
"In the end, you shouldn't project your own tainted understanding and view of other races on others you don't know."

And yet Tad, he asked Vox's advice and not yours. Hmmmmmmm

Anonymous Josh February 20, 2013 11:04 AM  

Marry a white woman and both of you learn Spanish so we can watch Scooby's head explode.

Nice. Thread winner?

Anonymous rycamor February 20, 2013 11:05 AM  

Markku February 20, 2013 11:01 AM

Said embedded module, airplane servos, some hand grenades and a numeric keyboard can be extremely useful too.


All assuming you have a dependable, independent source of electricity. And a generator is a downside if you need quiet. Solar+wind+batteries is workable, but that's quite an outlay to get something durable in place.

Anonymous Kickass February 20, 2013 11:07 AM  

@ Tad
"It's not a matter of feeling shame for what other white people did years ago. It's a matter of feeling shame for what America did. Leaving slavery aside as shame for supporting that institution shouldn't be an issue, there are the myriad of racists policies that America and Americans promoted and accepted that deserve to be considered shameful."

Then you must be still pissed about the whole 400 years of slavery thing done to you, right?

Anonymous Crispy February 20, 2013 11:07 AM  

I'd suggest getting into Trilogy in Austin. They do consulting for Fortune 1000 companies, and their "boot camp" will give a lot of real-world experience. Programming is a noble craft, but not everyone wants to sling code for the rest of their life. Many Trilogy alums have started their own companies or otherwise done well for themselves.

Blogger RobertT February 20, 2013 11:08 AM  

"Get a Government Job!"
Bad advice. You have to be a true believer to excel in a government job, to say nothing of being in a crucible where your every thought is examined by true believers.

" stick around college for another semester or two and add power engineering and/or controls engineering classes " This sounds good if you've never hired anyone before, but it you have this probably strikes you like it strikes me. College becomes relatively insignificant relatively into your career. My approach may not be world class, but I've hired dozens of people and I've never talked in depth with anyone about their college background.

Although it doesn't appear to be well accepted, VD's advice is spot on. Basing a career on technical excellence limits your earning ability. Witness a technically excellent physician who, regardless of his technical excellence, gets paid for the number of hours he spends in the trench shoveling. But if he gets out of the trench and puts his shovel down, he doesn't get paid. Better to find a way to make you money on the efforts of others. That money keeps coming in regardless of what you are doing.

Blogger RobertT February 20, 2013 11:11 AM  

whew ... typos, typos

Anonymous Kickass February 20, 2013 11:12 AM  

@ Josh,

Shucks, thanks.

Anonymous Porky February 20, 2013 11:15 AM  

Tad is exactly the kind of self-righteous activist who would try to bring harm to DA's career.

Any Tad-like coworker who overheard DA expressing his views on say, gay marriage, or women's rights would barely be able to contain himself as he marched down to HR with a grievance form in hand.


Anonymous Kickass February 20, 2013 11:16 AM  

@ Tad


"Your question reveals and important distinction. We need not be "pissed" about the wrongs our nation and people have committed in the past. This does no good. It's a matter of understanding the shame that needs to be associated with these most obviously tragic positions and actions America and Americans supported in the past. We can't for example examine "separate but equal" and not appreciate the shamefulness of that kind of racism.

"Pissed" doesn't provide guidance. Shame does."

So, you are saying the Egyptians in particular and Africans in general should be shamed for the slavery they inflicted on the Jews? Please, lead by example. And of course, before anyone white is shamed for owning slaves, you of course mean to go after the African tribes that captured and sold them and the Spanish who bought and sold them first, right?

Let the SHAME BEGIN and let it begin with Tad....da da da dah

Anonymous paradox February 20, 2013 11:20 AM  

Hey DA if you need a white blonde wife... I'll have one ready for you in 3 years. She is already "dating" a bi-racial kid. I may even have her converted to Catholicism by then.


While DA is not racially white, it's proven he is ethnically white.

Anonymous Josh February 20, 2013 11:20 AM  

"Pissed" doesn't provide guidance. Shame does.

Ladies and gentlemen, the liberal rabbit mind in a nutshell.

So does this mean it's acceptable to shame the obese and the gays and the feminists for behavior that doesn't help civilization?

Anonymous scoobius dubious February 20, 2013 11:24 AM  

To our friend DA...

well if you're already a Catholic and doing work in the computer field, then you already sound pretty sane to me. Keep on keepin' on.

No one knows what the future will bring, but a few books 'n things that can help you to stay sane in a hurricane (and I've been through more than a few, figuratively speaking...)

1) The Meditations of Marcus Aurelius.
2) The Chuang-Tzu, ostensibly written by Chuang Tzu himself, but the truth is, nobody knows for sure who really wrote it.
3) The Analects of Confucius.
4) The I-Ching, the 'Book of Change', if you can divorce yourself from the silly idea that it's zany obscurantist mysticism and look at it for what it really is: a daring but probably doomed attempt to do philosophy in a context that is not inherently philosophical. I recommend the Yale Bollingen series translation. Keep in mind that many people think Confucius himself played a role in editing the work.
5) The Orestaia, of Aeschylus.
6) The Oedipus Cycle, of Sophocles.
7) The Clouds, The Birds, Lysistrata, and Women in Power, by Aristophanes.
8) The Bacchae, of Euripides.
9) Fitzgerald's translation of the Iliad, but not his Odyssey; read the Fagles version of both Iliad and Odyssey -- as Frank O'Hara famously said, You shouldn't read poetry unless it's better than the movies. And Fagles is better than the movies.
10) Speaking of which, The Collected Poems of Frank O'Hara. If you can't handle that much, start with "Lunch Poems" and "Meditations in an Emergency" and work your way up to "Ode to Willem de Kooning" and "In Memory of My Feelings".
11) Speaking of which, the original edition of Whitman's "Leaves of Grass". Not the later editions, which he re-worked to death and ruined. Although there's some good stuff to be found everywhere in Whitman. If you can't recite "Cavalry crossing a ford" and "A noiseless patient spider" from memory, then I don't see what use you are in the world.
12) The Life and Opinions of Tristram Shandy, Gentleman; by Laurence Sterne. "We are like THIS!!" said Corporal Trim.
13) At Swim-Two-Birds, by Flann O'Brien. The funniest book ever written.
14) A Confederacy of Dunces, by John Kennedy Toole. The second-funniest book ever written. Is it a coincidence, d'ye think, that the two funniest books of all time were both written in English, by Irishmen? "I ain't TOUCHIN' that." (from the jaw-dropping "Crusade for Moorish Dignity" episode)
15) Hamlet, of course. Hamlet, Hamlet, Hamlet, Hamlet, Hamlet. The most important example of how English is spoken, written, thought, sung. Not just tragic, but also amazingly funny. Also The Tempest, the history plays, Midsummers, well, everything. It's quite possible that the best single example of English is Hal's introductory insult aimed at Falstaff in 1Henry IV, I.ii, maybe the best theatrical entrance ever devised.
16) Don Giovanni, by W.A. Mozart and da Ponte. Good Lord, what genius!
17) Mozart's String Quintet in G Minor.
18) Some Trees, by John Ashbery. Just to confuse you a little.

cheers.



Anonymous Kickass February 20, 2013 11:24 AM  

@ Porky, I have family who are non-white. They are educated, well-mannered and very successful in their professions. They don't like the affirmative action label and have to work twice as hard to prove it was not the reason why they got into the positions that they have. They are willing to do it and do it every day. They are better then me, I would start punching people out.

If this man gives his life to Christ, HE will lead him. In Christ, race matters not. Being a living witness to Christ, whatever your race, sets standards that are so far above what anyone does you will stand out in a good way.

Further, it is a 100 percent insurance policy against the evil days to come. Get a Bible, King James that is not new or revised and pray and read it. Repent of your sins, be baptised for the remission of them and give your life in service to the Lord through your acceptance of the one time sacrifice of Jesus The Christ for your sins. He will direct your paths and will protect and comfort you. He will never leave you when others will. He will judge you on your heart and soul when others judge you on your skin color or genetics.

There is freedom from coming evil and there is freedom from this world's system. It is slavery to the Lord of all creation.

Anonymous Alexander February 20, 2013 11:26 AM  

Surely slavery in Africa is relevant to African-Americans. The original sin, as it were.

Also, Tad. Answers please.

Anonymous Kickass February 20, 2013 11:32 AM  

@ Tad
"Thanks for asking. No. That's not what I'm saying. Nor is that what I'm addressing. I'm addressing issues concerning the U.S. and American citizens. Had I wanted to address issues relevant to Africa or Jews, I would have."

I am applying your logic to the same subject just differnt participants. What is good for the current white descendant who have never owned slaves is good for the current Jewish descendant who were slaves (and later went on to own slaves) and the African descendants who both were in slavery and were slave traders themselves.

Unless you are admitting that you hold only Americans with light skin and non-Jewish genetics to a higher standard then any other race on the earth. And of course, are further admitting to lumping the descendants of every light skined person in America currently into the same pile with ancestors of specific white people who actually participated in slavery. You do know that not all "white" people are the same, right? You do know that their are nationalities and people who are "white" that are immigrating here even today, right? Sounds like a polish guy off the boat yesterday is guilty of slavery because he is in America and has a white face, according to you.

So, go ahead. Explain your flip flop logic on this.

Anonymous Herman the German February 20, 2013 11:32 AM  

Also, Tad. Answers please.

--- He can't. He's reached his five-post-limit for this thread. All further comments are being removed by VD, per earlier specified regulations set upon Tad. ;-)

Anonymous VD February 20, 2013 11:32 AM  

Also, Tad. Answers please.

Tad has already used up his five permitted comments. And since he keeps trying to comment anyhow, he's pretty close to being relegated to spam.

Anonymous Kickass February 20, 2013 11:34 AM  

@ VD, ok sorry. I see we are going to have to get in line early to play with our troll.

Anonymous Porky February 20, 2013 11:36 AM  

@ Porky, I have family who are non-white.

And you are sharing this with me because ....??

Anonymous Herman the German February 20, 2013 11:39 AM  

Sounds like a polish guy off the boat yesterday is guilty of slavery because he is in America and has a white face, according to you.

---Yep. I got off the boat from Germany 21 years ago this September & I must say that I'm surely painted with this brush as well...But hey, of course I'm responsible for the murder of 6 million jews, so I guess there's THAT....lol

Anonymous scoobius dubious February 20, 2013 11:42 AM  

"recognizing the sins of a country and people and appreciating the cruelty a country has inflicted upon its own."

Whose "own"? What on earth are you talking about? Fallacy of ex post facto sniffling. Stop being so sentimental. If you want to analyze, then analyze. I can't think of an MRI scanning machine that breaks down in tears after a scan. Sheesh.

Anonymous George of the Hole February 20, 2013 11:44 AM  

Shouldn't Tad then feel shame for the worldwide spread of HIV? After all, his people are the principle vectors for a disease which was completely within their power to stop.

Blogger Markku February 20, 2013 11:44 AM  

All assuming you have a dependable, independent source of electricity.

This module can go on for ages with a lead battery (that you can charge whenever you happen to have a generator running), and the servos have to move exactly once.

Anonymous patrick kelly February 20, 2013 11:46 AM  

"If I'm getting any of this wrong please correct me but from my limited understanding of programming as a profession this is as I see things."

Heh, almost every time I find a post on the internet about what/who a "real" programmer is, I discover I have never met one, and everyone around me who has been producing software and making good money at it obviously can't code worth !@#$.


Anonymous Soga February 20, 2013 11:47 AM  

Oh Tad, keep providing psychoanalytic material. It is minds such as yours that certainly serve as great proof of God's truth which the likes of you so vehemently deny with every ounce of effort within your writhing, snakelike being. The truth that Man is fallen.

Anonymous Clay February 20, 2013 11:52 AM  

Vox, that's almost worthy of an addition to your "RULES OF THE BLOG"..."Tad is allowed 5 comments per thread, after which, all further comments will be "Tadded".

A sensible compromise.

Anonymous E. PERLINE February 20, 2013 11:57 AM  

Even if you have to clean toilets (there are firms that have made a big business out of that) your choice of work isn't the issue. The issue is whether you can save your money whatever income you earn.

If you are black there's another issue. Sometimes whites may not be able to hide their awareness that you are different in color. Since it comes out as puffs of air all you have to do is act as if nothing bothers you. And forgive their remarks on the spot.

Now your associates will not feel they're walking on eggshells. They will promote and admire you.

Anonymous civilServant February 20, 2013 11:59 AM  

In terms of avoiding the crossfire from the vibrant cohorts, the best place to be is in the SWPL strongholds.

Are you yourself not already located in a region deliberately chosen for its "pre-collapsed" condition?

What's interesting about Vox's response is that the coming chaos doesn't sound too bad if some kid in college with a CS degree can actually put it to use

Anonymous VD February 20, 2013 12:04 PM  

No, Tad. I said that your responses to MY questions do not count towards your five-comment per post limit. Not responses to anyone else's.

Anonymous civilServant February 20, 2013 12:05 PM  

It's merely a matter of recognizing the sins of a country and people and appreciating the cruelty a country has inflicted upon its own.

At what point is this requirement of recognition satisfied leaving everyone free to move on normally?

Anonymous scoobius dubious February 20, 2013 12:05 PM  

Oh, forgot for DA... Ashbery's amazing "Self-Portrait in a Convex Mirror" (how can you beat this opening line: "As Parmigianino did it...") and of course, Don Van Vliet's inimitable "Safe As Milk" and "Trout Mask Replica".

Good huntin'. Stay sane. I've tried, it almost worked.

Anonymous dh February 20, 2013 12:06 PM  

Learn Java. It runs everywhere.

AHEM. Learn C. It really runs everywhere.

Blogger Markku February 20, 2013 12:11 PM  

Does Tad still have the responsibility to answer everyone's direct questions, if they are related to previous claim? Because if so, then that's going to be abused.

Blogger tz February 20, 2013 12:13 PM  

@Athol - it isn't that you would commonly use pointers or recursion but that you UNDERSTAND them.

http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/ThePerilsofJavaSchools.html

If you learn the hard low level stuff and can understand and handle it, the ordinary stuff is easy.

If you learned dumbed down programming, even with all the checks and crutches, you will get spaghetti code which will bloat, leak, and be undebuggable.

Thinking is hard, which is why so few attempt or persevere with it.

Attempt the hardest. You can always lower the bar if you can't make the high one, but to intentionally aim low is rabbit behavior.

Anonymous Gx1080 February 20, 2013 12:15 PM  

Slavery: The original sin of the PC cult.

Ignore the wannabe Inquisitor, DA. Just by being on an applied STEM field without debt, you are above the curve. Keep ahead.

On long terms, can't argue with what has been said on this thread.

One thing: Never, never, NEVER accept being an SWPL pet. Being a soldier of thw SWPL's class war against other whites is a loss of your human dignity.

Anonymous Edjamacator February 20, 2013 12:21 PM  

Does Tad still have the responsibility to answer everyone's direct questions, if they are related to previous claim? Because if so, then that's going to be abused.

I think the little dodger deserves it.

Anonymous Edjamacator February 20, 2013 12:22 PM  

Vox, that's almost worthy of an addition to your "RULES OF THE BLOG"..."Tad is allowed 5 comments per thread, after which, all further comments will be "Tadded".

And the commenter being labeled "retadded."

Blogger tz February 20, 2013 12:26 PM  

Java - just another vulnerability announcement.

Java is written in C. Look at c++, ignore the oop evangelism - but learn the techniques, you can do oop in C.

Javascript for the web / html5.

Python for interactive and scripting.

But in any case, do nontrivial things. Try a linux device driver.

There are also specialties - automotive, infotainment, etc.

It is not what you know, but what you can do.

Anonymous dh February 20, 2013 12:42 PM  

http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/ThePerilsofJavaSchools.html

I used to respect joel, until I realized that he made his programmers use his own personal compiler in his own personal language.

http://www.joelonsoftware.com/items/2006/09/01b.html

Blogger Kentucky Packrat February 20, 2013 1:07 PM  

Being a SysAdmin or other hardware/maintenence type is much too stressful for my liking and I can't see their jobs being very much fun. Something to do with software is better for your health and sanity.

Other than my tendency to eat too much sugar and drink too many Cokes (and I would do that at any job), I absolutely adore being a system administrator. OTOH, the concept of having to be a programmer cog writing my little part of a massive piece of crap makes my head ache.

I've never had a problem finding a job as a UNIX admin when I needed one, and I know real network admins (not CCNA paper-pushers) can get jobs at any time too.

The biggest issue with system admins is the attitude. One of the best "raw" admins I had to train as an AIX guy was a helicopter pilot. Most helicopter pilots know that the world is against them, and distrust everything and everyone. Good system admins are even more distrusting of the world, their own work, and the system than helicopter pilots distrust their machine.

Go look up the Bastard Operator From Hell. If you think it's funny, then you might just be able to be a system admin.

Anonymous jack February 20, 2013 1:15 PM  

@Markku Markku February 20, 2013 9:47 AM

And it makes you be instinctively uncomfortable with the new-operator in garbage collected languages. You're going to set the pointer to null as soon as possible (so that the gc can reap it as soon as possible if it chooses to do so) just because leaving the pointer around feels so wrong.

OK. If I could ever get the education level to understand this without hours of net searching I think I could learn Russian or Chinese in one week.

Also: With regards to Tad. Abuse is OK. Really, it is. He may enjoy it. Why else would he come back here over and over and not go out and get some sort of life?

Anonymous jack February 20, 2013 1:34 PM  

@ Kentucky Packrat

I just, in between laughing my fanny off and wiping tears, ordered the BOFH omnibus and 2011, on Kindle. I'm looking forward to the comedic relief. These days any relief is appreciated...Thanks

Blogger Markku February 20, 2013 1:34 PM  

OK. If I could ever get the education level to understand this without hours of net searching I think I could learn Russian or Chinese in one week.

New-operator reserves a chunk of RAM for your program's usage. In traditional languages, you have to make sure you also call delete on that chunk later, or your program's memory consumption will slowly go up until all memory is consumed. This is called a memory leak, and it is a difficult bug to find. So, if you are experienced with traditional languages, the moment you use new, you are going to think about how to make sure you'll call delete on the appropriate time.

In modern languages, there is no delete. There is only a garbage collector that determines when the chunk is no longer in use. But this might be so late, that your program consumes a lot more memory than it needs to, even if it doesn't go up indefinitely. You can, however, inform the garbage collector that it is ok to free it from this point onward by letting go of that memory, by making sure that nothing in your program points to it anymore. You are a lot more likely to remember to do so, if you have spent countless, torturous nights of hunting memory leaks and therefore have a healthy, instinctive fear every time you reserve memory.

In short, your program is likely to consume less memory if you have started your programming career with C or C++.

Anonymous Desiderius February 20, 2013 1:46 PM  

Jesus, VD, is there a china shop left that you haven't utterly leveled?

If one is dour in one's Calvinism, one is doing it wrong, though admittedly that is an error to which Calvinists across history, and presently, are in fact prone.

Here is a way of thinking of it that I would be perfectly content to see completely demolished by our host, but which seems to me to have some validity:

God relates to people (and thus people to God) in different ways in different times. The Psalms in exile were sung in a different key to those in times of prosperity. To vastly oversimplify, two poles can be identified:

(1) sovereignty of God, predestination, faith, grace, Calvinism

(2) capacity/responsibility of man, free will, works, justice, Arminianism (pick your label here)

There former bucks up the people in times of adversity (see, for instance, Isaiah), and leads to gross irresponsibility in times of prosperity (cheap grace, et. al.) as we've seen in effect these past decades. Amos preached in such a time.

The obverse being true for the latter.

Anonymous Anonymous February 20, 2013 1:58 PM  

I am duly impressed that DA has not gone into debt for his education. I am so sick and tired of talking to friends with kids in college telling me how they are filling out the FAFSA and advising me to do the same. Bragging almost on the loans they are taking out for some really weak college degrees. Sheep, poor sheep theyn are. No way no how are my kids and I gonna fill that piece of crapolla out - ever. I am instructing my kids, all 100% homeschooled, that if college is an option God impresses them with then it will be done debt free. Working full-time, schooling as possible, no option; other than being blessed with scholarships for their hard work - but I have noticed even merit based scholarships are being tied to the FAFSA as they try to ensnare everyone in the system. Kudos to DA, is good to see someone of like mind, especially one of young years.

I too have a question in this vein if I may. My two eldest are thinking of college and given their plans college would be necessary - as currently done in the US. My eldest wants to be an archaeologist - he loves history, my second (daughter) wants to be a medical illustrationist as she loves art - and science. How do you think the soft sciences such as these will fare in the future as the economy and society slides into the abyss. These are the skills and desires God has given to my children, so they should pursue these things, but they are somewhat narrow fields. Any advice on how these degrees could be skewed to more practical matters such as actually earning a living. Any ancillary fields where such degrees may be applied in practical terms? We are doing as much research as we can but perhaps some here know people with these degrees who are using their knowledge more creatively and practically?

Alabamarob

Anonymous Peter Garstig February 20, 2013 3:17 PM  

You can write memory leaks in almost any language, even if the run-times always get smarter. Anyone run Notes lately?. Also, any particular language doesn't really give you an advantage.

Understanding CPU, compilers and run-time environments sets you up for any language. Outside of Assembler, C just gives you the best tool to learn these underlying systems. Also, it's hard to find a device without a C compiler.

Dive into functional programming (with pure functional programming you can avoid leaks as it's mathematically testable, but few master it. I wish I would.), OO and procedural language.

That's not to say it won't take you months or even years to really master one particular language, but you are better prepared for any language.

The worst code is usually written in the most powerfull languages. See JavaScript.

Anonymous Peter Garstig February 20, 2013 3:28 PM  

Markku: did you just introduce the Rabbit 2000?

Anonymous jack February 20, 2013 3:43 PM  

Markku:
Re: your explanation. Thank You. Obviously, you are a gentleman and scholar; I think you would make one heck of a teacher or even prof. in computer science, if you aren't already such. The blog is lucky to have you here.

[unlike Tad...but thats another story]

Blogger James Dixon February 20, 2013 5:17 PM  

> My eldest wants to be an archaeologist - he loves history, my second (daughter) wants to be a medical illustrationist as she loves art - and science.

I can't speak to archeology. But for art, as far as I know there are plenty of job opportunities for people who are good artists. Just don't count on the medical illustration position always being available. But if she can illustrate the human body, there will almost certainly be jobs she can do. And she can always do her own work and try to sell it.

Blogger Markku February 20, 2013 5:27 PM  

Markku: did you just introduce the Rabbit 2000?

I did indeed. First of all I've used it myself, and second, there is something poetic about it being used for that purpose.

Blogger Markku February 20, 2013 5:38 PM  

Its memory consumption at the lowest frequency (which is adequate for polling a bunch of sensors) is 4 mA and minimum voltage is 3.3 V. So, put three average rechargeable AA batteries in series and you'll run it for weeks with one full charge.

Think about that one. If it is a car battery instead, you can just fuhgeddaboudit.

Just like about the intruders.

Blogger Markku February 20, 2013 5:39 PM  

Eh, power consumption.

Anonymous TangoMan February 20, 2013 5:51 PM  

Tad,

I support affirmative action based on economic conditions.

I understand that Tad can't address the following but the case of Fisher vs. University of Texas which is currently before the Supreme Court should show the flaw in the position that Tad holds.

The Chronicle of Higher Education notes:

Justice Alito noted that Texas claimed, however, that the race-neutral alternative approach was “faulty because it doesn’t admit enough African-Americans and Hispanics who come from privileged backgrounds.” And, indeed, on Pages 33 and 34 of its brief, UT made the somewhat astonishing argument that because those admitted through the 10-percent plan were more likely “to be the first in their families to attend college,” racial preferences were needed to admit students such as “the African-American or Hispanic child of successful professionals in Dallas,” who would play against stereotypes.

Set aside the fact that American universities have no dearth of privileged students of any colors—86 percent of African-Americans at selective colleges are middle or upper class—or that those minority students most likely to be admitted without a preference are those from wealthy backgrounds. To most Americans, the privileged minority student is the very least sympathetic affirmative-action case, which helps explain why President Obama has said his own daughters do not deserve a racial preference in college admission.


So the outcome that we should expect from an Affirmative Action policy which was based on the student's economic situation is a massive boost in white enrollment vis-à-vis black and Hispanic enrollment. At any given income level the white students tend to outperform their same income black and Hispanic students peers.

Look at what the UT was arguing, they felt the need to preferentially admit the black and Hispanic applicants who came from economically privileged backgrounds rather than the academically better qualified white applicants from families with lower incomes.

Is Tad really suggesting that we decimate black and Hispanic enrollment in universities by adopting an Affirmative Action policy which focuses only on economic circumstances? I don't believe him. I don't believe that he would accept the fall-out which results from such a policy.

Anonymous Desiderius February 20, 2013 6:13 PM  

VD,

Apologies, my comment above should be in the Calvinism thread.

I would greatly value your thoughts and/or the relocation of my comment to the proper thread.

Anonymous E. PERLINE February 20, 2013 7:05 PM  

The son of anonymous wants to be an archeologist and his daughter wants to do medical illustrating. These are niches within niches that you may fall into when you--

1. Become a spellbinding commentater.
2. Become a top all-around artist.

Anonymous The CronoLink February 20, 2013 7:14 PM  

Can anyone recommend me some books or websites in order to learn C/C++ in a more intermediate/advance level? I would really appreciate it. Also, is it a good idea to learn more of Assembly?

Anonymous kh123 February 20, 2013 7:26 PM  

"Homologic"

Suggest this should be the main tag whenever a Tad quote earns its own post.

Anonymous beerme February 20, 2013 7:36 PM  

DA,

I can't say anything about your career plans because the only thing I know about programming is that it starts long threads debating the merits of learning the different programming languages.

Condoms, condoms, condoms. The fastest way to screw up your life is to have unplanned children. Also, be careful about recreational partners as other black individuals and those that consort with them have issues with the sexually transmitted diseases. The fourth bullet point under the "new HIV infections" section of (http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/topics/aa/) is very relevant in my opinion.

Congratulations on not going into debt for your schooling. Stay out of debt and you are ahead of the vast majority of your peers.

Anonymous dh February 20, 2013 10:19 PM  

Can anyone recommend me some books or websites in order to learn C/C++ in a more intermediate/advance level? I would really appreciate it. Also, is it a good idea to learn more of Assembly?

There is only book you need for C, it's called The C Programming Language, by Dennis Ritchie and Brian Kernighan.

Assembly, in my opinion, has reached the point of diminished returns. With various superscalar CPU designs, better and more capable processors in all types of devices, and the general improvements in compilers and compiler design, it's not that useful. One exception is with parallel processing, especially offloaded GPU processing, which still is making gains through machine code optimization.

Anonymous The CronoLink February 20, 2013 11:32 PM  

Thank you, dh, I'll look into my nearest bookshop for it. As for Assembly I was asking because I had heard before that, despite its difficulty, it served better for a more efficient use of resources and memory or something (don't quite remember exactly, to be honest, it was mentioned alongside videogames :P )

Anonymous rycamor February 20, 2013 11:59 PM  

The question of programming is which problem domain and level of abstraction do you want to work in? You can be excellent with pointer arithmetic and filesystem timing algorithms, but abysmal at building a web-based business application to manage invoices and payments. There's a whole range of programming skills and I tend to think of them as lying along two axes:

a) close to the metal <---> close to the human.
b) affinity for the machine <---> affinity for pure logic.

a) is obvious. There are geek programmers who work on stuff that is completely incomprehensible to the average human. Completely ("I'm working on algorithms to optimize granularity of Locks and degrees of consistency in clustered data"). Then there are programmers who sit down with a business owner and map out a strategy to manage a subset of company data according to a set of rules that are easily expressed in human language. ("When an invoice exceeds the maximum level for unapproved purchases, an email is kicked off to the manager, and the invoice is not paid until reviewed by that manager." The business programmer's project might absolutely depend on the work of the data clustering guy, but they are never likely to even meet each other, much less have a conversation. Yes, the first guy is more likely to be a genius, but the 2nd guy is more likely to have a social life. However, they can each make about as much money.

b) is a little more like the difference between a metallurgist and an engineer. Each might be a raving genius, but the engineer works at a high level of abstraction while the metallurgist at a low level. The metallurgist figures out how to make metal have amazing properties, but the engineer figures out how to make those properties interact with the forces involved in a problem he is trying to solve. This is sort of like the difference between a C programmer and a LISP programmer, or between the guy developing a database engine and a guy creating an intricate structure with that database to solve a very complex logical problem. The first guy knows all about algorithms and compilers, and thinks a lot about processor clock cycles, registers, etc..., while the 2nd guy will have read books on set theory, first-order predicate logic, and other abstruse math/logic concepts, leaving all the dirty machine-level problems to the other guy.

Each has its place. I'm not saying a programmer can't be good in any or all of these areas, but they do involve different skills, so each requires its own effort to achieve mastery. I, for example, realized early on that I am not the guy to work on low-level stuff (even though I enjoy C when I get the chance to play with it), nor am I the best guy to develop graphical interfaces, although I have done my fair share. But I am the guy to understand how to manage your data, and how to reduce a multiplicity of rules to their simplest form. SQL and relational logic come to me almost like I don't have to be taught. Set theory is relaxing reading to me. Play to your strengths.

Anonymous The other skeptic February 21, 2013 12:08 AM  

Markku: did you just introduce the Rabbit 2000?

Well, it's really a Z80. And a lot of people from Zilog went on to form Xilinx

Anonymous The other skeptic February 21, 2013 12:26 AM  

Like rabbits, Rabbit Semiconductor does not keep its web site links up to date. You get:

无法找到网页 (Cannot find the page!)

Anonymous Battlefrog February 21, 2013 1:26 AM  

Almost no one here understands what a CE degree is.

Blogger Markku February 21, 2013 3:29 AM  

Thank you, dh, I'll look into my nearest bookshop for it. As for Assembly I was asking because I had heard before that, despite its difficulty, it served better for a more efficient use of resources and memory or something (don't quite remember exactly, to be honest, it was mentioned alongside videogames :P )

It is my impression that knowing assembly these days is almost useless, except to a very basic degree where you can look at a disassembly of your C-code and identify performance bottlenecks from it. There are all those caches in a modern processor that, I've heard, makes it extremely difficult to write efficient assembly by hand. Because of those, a compiler is likely to do a better job than you.

Blogger James Dixon February 21, 2013 9:30 AM  

> Almost no one here understands what a CE degree is.

A CE degree is essentially half EE and half CS.

Anonymous BoysMom February 25, 2013 2:55 PM  

As a middle class white woman married to a black immigrant man, I'll share a couple things we've learned. Everyone will always assume you got your degree/job because of Affirmative Action. You're going to have to prove yourself over, and over, and over. Just be prepared for it. If you choose to work for the government, after you have proved yourself, a pretty high percentage of your coworkers will resent you for showing them up.
If you chose not to marry a black woman, African American women will hate your wife. For some reason, a large portion of African American women think they own all successful black men. Not all, but in my experience eighty to ninety percent. This makes forming couples friendships a little bit harder--like it's not hard enough already when you don't have the 'proper' political views to match your appearance.
Whoever you marry, make sure she's willing to homeschool. You're intelligent, your kids'll be intelligent, and black and mixed kids are not supposed to be intelligent.

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