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Friday, February 01, 2013

Rabbits in the NFL

Never give them any quarter.  None.  They never, ever stop trying to exert control over everything you think, say, and do:
Comedian and radio show Artie Lange went from player to player at media day, as we understand it, asking outlandish questions until someone game him an outlandish answer.  That someone was 49ers cornerback Chris Culliver, who expressed strong opinions against the possibility of a gay teammate, creating a major distraction for his team.

But the obvious apologies and retractions shouldn’t be the end of it, in the opinion of Seahawks punter Jon Ryan.  Ryan believes that Culliver should be suspended.

“If Chris Culliver isn’t suspended by Goodell then I am absolutely embarrassed to be part of a league that accepts this type of behavior,” Ryan said on Twitter.
Who cares if Jon Ryan is embarrassed or not?  It's not behavior, it is free speech and freedom of thought.  Culliver was perfectly within his rights to speak about what he thinks and Ryan should quit the league if he's such a delicate flower.  Ryan should also be given a lecture by Roger Goodell about who is responsible for the NFL's disciplinary processes and who is not.

If suspending people from their jobs for expressing their opinions is now the norm, then obviously it is fair for Christians to demand the suspension of everyone who dares to say anything that contradicts the Bible in any way.  It won't be long before the Muslims will get into the game too, as they already are in London and some of the European cities.  It should be interesting to see how fast homosexuals abandon their public pressure tactics when they belatedly realize they are outnumbered by an enemy far more implacable than they ever imagined Christians to be.

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Anonymous RINO February 01, 2013 11:36 AM  

Jon who?

Anonymous Steve Canyon February 01, 2013 11:39 AM  

He's a punter, of course he's a delicate flower. Darren Bennett was the last punter in the NFL that could be taken seriously.

Anonymous Lex Rex February 01, 2013 11:40 AM  

The Gays have been dying for the chance to bring the rainbow to the NFL. I'm sure that's why the Kwame Harris "NFL player beats up boyfriend" story is getting so much attention.

Anonymous Stilicho February 01, 2013 11:43 AM  

It's a punter, naturally.

Anonymous Lex Rex February 01, 2013 11:47 AM  

“If Chris Culliver isn’t suspended by Goodell then I am absolutely embarrassed to be part of a league that accepts this type of behavior,” Ryan said on Twitter.

I have always assumed the punters knew they weren't really a part of the team. I guess Jon didn't.

Blogger Jehu February 01, 2013 11:51 AM  

Americans need to either make homosexuality illegal and at least mildly persecuted or accept that it will be de facto illegal and more aggressively persecuted to criticize it.
There are no other options, the nature of the country more or less rules out a live and let live approach.

Anonymous GreyS February 01, 2013 11:58 AM  

Hopefully Ryan first checked to see if Culliver plays Special Teams.

Blogger Scott February 01, 2013 12:02 PM  

My contempt for gays when I was 21 was 0 but it increases every year as the gay lobby becomes bigger and bigger bullies. I was cool with the "it's our life leave us alone" argument but the whole "If you don't agree with everything we say, you're evil" has really pushed me away from supporting any gay rights and it's going to be funny when the gay lobby gets it's just deserts and bigger bully comes and pushes them around.

Anonymous DrTorch February 01, 2013 12:06 PM  

Even worse is that Ryan is complaining about comments made when Culliver was specifically asked.

I always thought John Rocker got a bad rap, but he volunteered his thoughts. This was an interview, and the NFL mandates that players participate in these interviews.

And yes, Ryan should be suspended for his bigotry.

Anonymous anon123 February 01, 2013 12:07 PM  

I hate that schmuck Lange since he threw the real comedian in that duo, Nick DiPaolo, under the bus.

Anonymous Anchorman February 01, 2013 12:11 PM  

Messy, messy, messy.

Here are my thoughts:

He is free to say such things and I can't see it as the place of the NFL to suspend, but his employer can suspend him. If his conduct is considered unprofessional during a company event, they should be allowed to discipline him because he's acting as a representative of the business. On personal time? Different story. Of course, if he is disciplined, I'd expect his union to immediately file a grievance and argue he was expressing his personal opinion and did not indicate he was speaking for the company or as a part of company policy.

Blogger TontoBubbaGoldstein February 01, 2013 12:14 PM  

Almost OT:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5eBCoTLOaU&feature=youtube_gdata_player


Yeah, it's a mashup....but I chuckled.

Anonymous Edjamacator February 01, 2013 12:15 PM  

The sight of the first homosexual to have his head chopped off by the vibrant, diverse religion of peace will cow the rest rather fast.

Blogger Booch Paradise February 01, 2013 12:18 PM  

On a side note, does that mean that Muslims are rabbit people?

Anonymous Tad February 01, 2013 12:18 PM  

@Scott

My contempt for gays when I was 21 was 0 but it increases every year as the gay lobby becomes bigger and bigger bullies. I was cool with the "it's our life leave us alone" argument but the whole "If you don't agree with everything we say, you're evil" has really pushed me away from supporting any gay rights and it's going to be funny when the gay lobby gets it's just deserts and bigger bully comes and pushes them around.

Nice to see that you can experience what the Gay community has long experienced.

Anonymous bob k. mando February 01, 2013 12:25 PM  

this was pretty much my take on the John Rocker rhubarb.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Rocker#Controversial_statements

Rocker should have never apologized and on being suspended he should have sued MLB for requiring him to work in an abusive and hostile work environment.

" Nowhere else in the country do people spit at you, throw bottles at you, throw quarters at you, throw batteries at you and say, 'Hey, I did your mother last night — she's a whore.' I talked about what degenerates they were and they proved me right."


Rocker himself didn't have the greatest emotional balance but the public media reaction and MLB response was completely ridiculous.

Anonymous Make it stop February 01, 2013 12:25 PM  

Shut up, Tad.

Anonymous Toddy Cat February 01, 2013 12:27 PM  

This Tad guy is hilarious. If he's for real, he should be stuffed and exibited in the Smithsonian, just in case anyone wants to see what exactly destroyed Western Civilization. But personally, I think he's too good to be true.

Blogger Giraffe February 01, 2013 12:29 PM  

Nice to see that you can experience what the Gay community has long experienced.

That's pretty hypocritical coming from a homophobe such as yourself.

Anonymous bob k. mando February 01, 2013 12:30 PM  

Lex Rex February 01, 2013 11:40 AM
I'm sure that's why the Kwame Harris "NFL player beats up boyfriend" story is getting so much attention.




http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2269925/Kwame-Harris-Gay-San-Francisco-49er-charged-beating-ex-boyfriend.html

"an August beating involving a former boyfriend during an argument over soy sauce"

*double facepalm*

would anyone BUT a queer get into an argument over SOY SAUCE?

what.

the.

hell.

Anonymous Tad February 01, 2013 12:33 PM  

@Toddy

This Tad guy is hilarious. If he's for real, he should be stuffed and exibited in the Smithsonian, just in case anyone wants to see what exactly destroyed Western Civilization. But personally, I think he's too good to be true.

If it was the 2%-4% of the population that "destroyed" Western Civilization then you have to agree the strength of that civilization wasn't too great.

Anonymous Gx1080 February 01, 2013 12:35 PM  

The push for gay marriage is not about rights (that can be easily gotten by contracts), is about a push against Christianity.

See: Why Democrats and all other that claim the mantle of Leftism support it. Faith gives men the strength to stand against tyrany, so the wanna-be tyrants work hard to supress it.

Anonymous Tad February 01, 2013 12:35 PM  

@Giraffe

That's pretty hypocritical coming from a homophobe such as yourself.

So true!! You'd think all that time I spent referencing an ancient book of fables to justify my claims of just how evil Homosexuals are would have prevented me from changing my mind and concluding that I was brainwashed and deluded through that whole episode.

Anonymous Tad February 01, 2013 12:38 PM  

@GX

The push for gay marriage is not about rights (that can be easily gotten by contracts), is about a push against Christianity.

You are only partly right. The push for gay marriage is partly about pushing back against the mess Christianity has layered over the United States. But it's about rights too.

Anonymous Daniel February 01, 2013 12:38 PM  

Never ever should have let the soccer-style kicker into the NFL.

Chop their toes off, call 'em Tom Dempsey and let's get back to 63 yard field goals.

Anonymous Dan in Tx February 01, 2013 12:41 PM  

"Nice to see that you can experience what the Gay community has long experienced."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCy8MpT45gk

Blogger Brian February 01, 2013 12:42 PM  

Jon Ryan is a pretty good punter, but this urge for people (usually on the left) to be the first and foremost defenders of PC... it seems like a political version of white-knighting. It is as if the pecking order on the left is defined by who is the loudest and most outspoken defender of blacks, gays, women, etc.

Anonymous Shutup, Tad. February 01, 2013 12:45 PM  

They start wearing pink and look what happens.

Hey, Tad. Boo Hoo. Nobody likes a whiner.

So shutup already.

Anonymous Gx1080 February 01, 2013 12:46 PM  

@Tad.
Christianity ain't at fault that Yanks are too pussy for Genocide against those evil Southerners that they claim to hate so much.

Anonymous Toddy Cat February 01, 2013 12:48 PM  

"If it was the 2%-4% of the population that "destroyed" Western Civilization then you have to agree the strength of that civilization wasn't too great.'

It's liberals that have destroyed Western Civ, not homosexuals. As is usual with your kind, you misunderstand - but what else is new? Although civilization is a lot more fragile than leftists think - it's can't take endless tinkering in the name of whatever cause is fashionable at any given time.

"the mess Christianity has layered over the United States."

If by "mess" you mean ordered freedom, prosperity, functional families and constitutional republicanism, I agree - Christianity is indeed responsible for that, and its opponents are indeed "pushing back" against that. But be careful what you wish for - "victory" isn't going to look like what you think it's going to look like...

Anonymous Scintan February 01, 2013 12:53 PM  

Here are my thoughts:

He is free to say such things and I can't see it as the place of the NFL to suspend, but his employer can suspend him. If his conduct is considered unprofessional during a company event, they should be allowed to discipline him because he's acting as a representative of the business. On personal time? Different story. Of course, if he is disciplined, I'd expect his union to immediately file a grievance and argue he was expressing his personal opinion and did not indicate he was speaking for the company or as a part of company policy.


If the league and its teams don't want untrained speakers making controversial statements, they should stop demanding that those untrained speakers do these dog and pony shows. Players are required to take part in the interview sessions. They are not paid spokespeople, yet you're in favor of disciplining them in such a situation?

That's retarded/gay/queer/and any other derogatory phrasing that might offend Tad.

Anonymous Tad February 01, 2013 12:57 PM  

@Toddy

"the mess Christianity has layered over the United States."

If by "mess" you mean ordered freedom, prosperity, functional families and constitutional republicanism, I agree


No. I was referring to the bigoted, anti-freedom, non-sensical anti-gay message of Christianity.

Anonymous Scintan February 01, 2013 12:59 PM  

No. I was referring to the bigoted, anti-freedom, non-sensical anti-gay message of Christianity.

As opposed to the bigoted, anti-freedom, nonsensical pro-gay message you yourself pimp....?

Anonymous RINO February 01, 2013 1:00 PM  

If it was the 2%-4% of the population that "destroyed" Western Civilization then you have to agree the strength of that civilization wasn't too great.

The Jews have proven that it is possible to chip away at Western civlization at those percentages. Why do you underestimate gay people?

Anonymous FP February 01, 2013 1:02 PM  

@Tad

"But it's about rights too."

No, its not. I used to buy into that line ten years ago. Heck, I voted for "gay marriage" in my state back then. If it was about "rights", the gay lobby and its various supporters wouldn't scream and shout for hate speech and hate crime laws.

Anonymous Loki of Asgard February 01, 2013 1:07 PM  

No. I was referring to the bigoted, anti-freedom, non-sensical anti-gay message of Christianity.

Free speech and freedom of association are anti-freedom. Reasoned arguments are nonsensical. Disapproval is hatred.

Everything you know is wrong. Black is white, up is down, and short is long.

Anonymous Loki of Asgard February 01, 2013 1:10 PM  

Tell me, would it not be better to submit to my reign than to the squealing, self-righteous tyranny of such creatures as this Tad, who would have your tongues cut out rather than hear you say your minds?

Anonymous The Gray Man February 01, 2013 1:10 PM  

Tad February 01, 2013 12:38 PM
The push for gay marriage is partly about pushing back against the mess Christianity has layered over the United States. But it's about rights too.

I'm curious what mess Christianity has layed over the United States. What do you think this country was like in 1850? Or 1780? There were anti-sodomy laws that resulted in permanent damage to some individuals if they were caught participating in such things. I think things have been pretty good for gay people the past 150 years.

It's also funny that you forget that equality before the law has always existed for homosexuals. Sodomy laws and the refusal to marry two men or two women also applies to straight people. Just because heterosexuals are less likely to indulge in either thing doesn't make the law any less fair or equal.

I expect my last point to go straight over your head.

Anonymous Anonymous February 01, 2013 1:10 PM  

Fudge packing is de facto

But Islam is rapidly becoming de jure

Bad news for Tad. At least you can still curse those homo-phobe Bible-thumpers when the Ayatollah drops a wall on your head.

Anonymous Not Tad...but close February 01, 2013 1:12 PM  

The push for GUN GRABBING is partly about pushing back against the mess Christianity has layered over the United States. But it's about rights too.

Anonymous Porky February 01, 2013 1:12 PM  

No. I was referring to the bigoted, anti-freedom, non-sensical anti-gay message of Christianity.

Given the dangerous and licentious nature of that lifestyle it seems perfectly reasonable to speak out against it.

Anonymous Anonymous February 01, 2013 1:13 PM  

"bigoted, anti-freedom, non-sensical anti-gay message of Christianity."

If Gay is Good, then Non-Gay is bad and worthy of destruction.

Sounds better in German, I assure you.

Anonymous Anchorman February 01, 2013 1:14 PM  

They are not paid spokespeople, yet you're in favor of disciplining them in such a situation?

If I own a company and you do something I don't like while at work, I should have the authority to discipline you. Don't like it? There's the door. Go start your own company where folks can act/say what you want to promote. Why should I be forced to continue paying someone or look away from questionable behavior when it draws negative attention to my business, threatening my investment and the income of other employees?

You can call it PC-thuggery, but I was the one who laid out the capital to start the business. I risked and sacrificed to make it a success. My employees can share in the success if they follow company guidelines.

If I make the guidelines too strict, I run the risk of turning away potential employees with higher quality skills. Too lax and I risk offending customers. So, I have to carefully balance my expectations of employee conduct with my bottom line.

That aside, if my employees were union, I'd expect fierce pushback.

Blogger Giraffe February 01, 2013 1:14 PM  

On the thread down below, Tad said:

"Until you can identify the reason why an objective standard of evil is necessary or even called for or even possible, then don't even bother commenting....You just look dumb."

Here he says:

I was referring to the bigoted, anti-freedom, non-sensical anti-gay message of Christianity.

Tad is either whining because Christianity is not the way he wants it to be, in which case, why should we care, shut up Tad, or he has some objective standard he's appealing to. Which he said doesn't exist and is impossible.

Wonder which it is.

Anonymous bob k. mando February 01, 2013 1:15 PM  

Tad February 01, 2013 12:57 PM
No. I was referring to the bigoted, anti-freedom, non-sensical anti-gay message of Christianity.




because bigotry, anti-freedom ideologies and sensical anti-gay messages wouldn't exist without Christianity.

also, you forgot feminism.

why do you hate women, Tad?

Blogger Brian February 01, 2013 1:16 PM  

It is really strange how, in the eyes of the media and the left, that holding the same views that have been held for thousands of years in western society are suddenly now wrong, mean, bigoted, and unAmerican. They like to say that Christians are the offenders in a culture war, but that is obviously not the case.

Anonymous Toddy Cat February 01, 2013 1:20 PM  

It's fruitless (no homophobia, Tad, so calm down, just a figure of speech) to try to engage liberals logically, that's not possible, since their positions are not based on logic, but rather envy, resentment, and being mad at Dad, and at all those cheerleaders who wouldn't date them in HS. So just enjoy the unintentional humor.

Anonymous Scintan February 01, 2013 1:21 PM  

You can call it PC-thuggery, but I was the one who laid out the capital to start the business. I risked and sacrificed to make it a success. My employees can share in the success if they follow company guidelines.

First, it's rampant stupidity.
Second, well, the first is enough. You're a freakin' moron for putting out untrained spokesmen for lengthy interviews. Disciplining them after they make mistakes just compounds your stupidity.

It's even worse in a sport, like football, where the interviewees are also the product that drives the customer base.

Anonymous Fred February 01, 2013 1:26 PM  

You can be a good liberal like Ed Koch, and still the "Pink Swastikas" will stop at nothing to destroy you:

http://www.ibtimes.com/ed-koch-dies-was-former-nyc-mayor-gay-bess-myerson-campaign-appearances-richard-nathan-fueled-rumors

http://www.indiewire.com/article/first_look_kirby_dicks_outrage_tribeca_premiere_names_names/

Anonymous GreyS February 01, 2013 1:38 PM  

----"GreyS February 01, 2013 11:58 AM
Hopefully Ryan first checked to see if Culliver plays Special Teams."


haha yep, sure enough--- "49ers' No. 3 cornerback and a key special-teams player"

See ya in the fall, cuz. It won't be a running into the punter play. It will be after the punt during the return. And it won't be just Culliver aiming for him-- in fact his teammates will probably tell him to stay away from the play so he doesn't get blamed.

Anonymous Unending Improvement February 01, 2013 1:39 PM  

The entire gay fascination with figuring out the sexuality of past figures is amusing.

And by amusing I mean "Get a damn life."

Anonymous Sun Xhu February 01, 2013 1:40 PM  

Just like every other Liberal issue, this isn't about equality...


...it's about revenge.

Blogger JD Curtis February 01, 2013 1:42 PM  

It is completely impossible for the Gay Left and their brainwashed synchophants to separate the terms 'homosexuality' from 'homosexual'.


Any criticism of homosexuality, is immediately construed to be an attack on the individual homosexual. So effective has the Pink Hand been with this tactic that any rational discussion on the topic is immediately supressed. Congratulations a$$holes.


Ill-Defined Gay Rights Uber Alles

Anonymous JohnR February 01, 2013 1:42 PM  

Bob K. Mando: http://bossip.com/320397/the-hood-life-brothers-fight-in-ohio-over-fried-chicken-mother-calls-911/

Black but not gay.

Sorry, gays don't have a lock on this kind of behavior.

Anonymous George of the Hole February 01, 2013 1:48 PM  

Tad is either whining because Christianity is not the way he wants it to be, in which case, why should we care, shut up Tad, or he has some objective standard he's appealing to. Which he said doesn't exist and is impossible.

There are only two ethical choices with atheists. "Might makes right" - which Tad obviously does not subscribe to - and "Utilitarianism". Tad is a utilitarian.

Both world views are exceedingly dangerous and should be confronted whenever encountered.

Anonymous dh February 01, 2013 2:08 PM  

Given the dangerous and licentious nature of that lifestyle it seems perfectly reasonable to speak out against it.

The exact same thing can be said about the NFL lifestyle. I mean, these are uneducated, moron, half-human apes running around doing violence. When they are done in the sport, they are three-quarters retarded, full of violence and mental issues. At 45 years old they look and act like they are 70 or 75. They are bastions of illegitimacy, serial whoring, drug and alcohol abuse, and gawdy ghetto consumption. Most end up destitute eventually, even the ones who made millions and millions because they are so stupid they can manage to live out 20 odd years on as the millions they should have in the bank.

The best thing an ex-NFL player can hope for is to end up babbling on the sidelines, drunk, on camera. The second best thing an ex-NFL player can hope for is to go to jail for stealing back his own possessions, and get 3 squares a day.

At least if it was honest that would be something that could be ignored. But the whole business is based on monopoly powers excepted to them, protectionism from the FCC and cable/TV monopolies, local owners suckling money from public coffers, and then gorging on profits. The fans are deluded into thinking they are receiving something of value, when in fact they are being stolen from. Meanwhile, the cost of being a fan continues to draw upwards and out of reach of the very people whose property and income taxes are redirected to build palatial horrifically bland corporate-named monstrosities.

Why should we give a shit what these people do or say? They aren't even the circus performers of the Roman bread-and-circus machine.

It is pretty despicable the attention that this crass, juvenile, fraudulent activity gets so from a libertarian focused readership. The entire affair is an affront to humanity.

Anonymous Tad February 01, 2013 2:10 PM  

@Loki

Tell me, would it not be better to submit to my reign than to the squealing, self-righteous tyranny of such creatures as this Tad, who would have your tongues cut out rather than hear you say your minds?

Loki, Loki, Loki...

Did you ever see me take the side of the dude who is outraged some person spoke out against condemning gays? No you haven't. If anyone gets suspended or punished for speaking their mind, I'd be equally offended as I am by the nonsensical and bigoted message distributed by the Catholic Church regarding gays and by the other churchers and religios that condemn homosexuality.

One can condemn the message yet tolerate the messaging.

Blogger Giraffe February 01, 2013 2:12 PM  

There are only two ethical choices with atheists. "Might makes right" - which Tad obviously does not subscribe to - and "Utilitarianism". Tad is a utilitarian.

I don't know about that. He was just claiming that homosexuals are 2 to 4 percent of the population. How does extending the right to marry to homosexuals benefit the rest of society at all? Add in the health risks of homosexuality and it seems to me that utilitarianism is just a very large gun aimed right at Tad's head. Which secretly turns him on.

Anonymous dh February 01, 2013 2:13 PM  

It is really strange how, in the eyes of the media and the left, that holding the same views that have been held for thousands of years in western society are suddenly now wrong, mean, bigoted, and unAmerican. They like to say that Christians are the offenders in a culture war, but that is obviously not the case.

It's not that your views have changed. They haven't. I can see they have been admirably consistent for the most parts. The 1960's got a little wonky there, but, essentially, it's the same.

The difference is that now the minorities are coming up fast in the rear view mirror. The civilization you think exists is gone for good. It's over. And all of us on the left are happy. We'll hold onto the things that worked and dump the rest overboard.

Retreat to your close circle of like minded friends. The rest of us are cheering your extinction. Shut the light off on your way out.

Anonymous Tad February 01, 2013 2:14 PM  

@Porky

Given the dangerous and licentious nature of that lifestyle it seems perfectly reasonable to speak out against it.

It's only licentious if your principles dictate it is licentious. There is no good reason to categorize homosexuality as licentious. And since when as engaging in dangerous pursuits required condemnation?

Anonymous Loki of Asgard February 01, 2013 2:17 PM  

I'd be equally offended as I am by the nonsensical and bigoted message distributed by the Catholic Church regarding gays and by the other churchers and religios that condemn homosexuality.

Truly? Let us see:

The push for gay marriage is partly about pushing back against the mess Christianity has layered over the United States.

I am certain you would strive with all your might to defend the rights of people to say things that hurt your feelings and stop you indulging your fleshly impulses. Truly. Your kind has that sort of history.

Anonymous Loki of Asgard February 01, 2013 2:18 PM  

The rest of us are cheering your extinction.

Such is the voice of tolerance. Black is white, up is down, and short is long.

Anonymous Fred February 01, 2013 2:19 PM  

"nonsensical and bigoted message distributed by the Catholic Church regarding gays and by the other churchers and religios that condemn homosexuality"

Why is nonsensical for Christan to condemn homosexuality?

Why are YOU a bigot toward Christians?

Anonymous dh February 01, 2013 2:20 PM  

I don't know about that. He was just claiming that homosexuals are 2 to 4 percent of the population. How does extending the right to marry to homosexuals benefit the rest of society at all? Add in the health risks of homosexuality and it seems to me that utilitarianism is just a very large gun aimed right at Tad's head. Which secretly turns him on.

This isn't even difficult:

1. Gays consume less government resources than their straight counterparts. Every man taken out of the reproductive gene pool is fewer children that will take from the government. You don't see Randall & Gary at the trailer park, with a bunch of government cheese mullet babies, do you?

2. They compete with women for menial, administrative, non-productive office jobs. That puts wage pressure on younger women, who will have increased inducement to stay out of who workforce and have babies and form stable families.

3. Low-class lesbian women, who are often fodder for minority baby daddies, are taken out of the reproduction pool.

4. Every gay or lesbian who dies an early death contributes to the long-term financial health of the country. Contribute to social programs, but don't have the kids or longevity to collect on them.

5. Finally, every person who comes to realize what a disastrous effect government sanction has on marriage is one person closer to reforming the civil institution.

Anonymous Fred February 01, 2013 2:21 PM  

"And since when as engaging in dangerous pursuits required condemnation?"

Hmmm.... owning a gun perhaps?

Ruh-roh. Did you think we'd forget?

Anonymous Tallen February 01, 2013 2:22 PM  

the minorities are coming up fast in the rear view mirror... ...And all of us on the left are happy.

That about sums it up.

Anonymous Loki of Asgard February 01, 2013 2:28 PM  

1. Gays consume less government resources than their straight counterparts. Every man taken out of the reproductive gene pool is fewer children that will take from the government. You don't see Randall & Gary at the trailer park, with a bunch of government cheese mullet babies, do you?

Hear this, breeders. You give nothing, you pay nothing; you only take. Your children are a sap upon society, and well you ought to be ashamed for drawing from the coffers of government, which would be stuffed full to overflowing but for your cursed reproduction.

2. They compete with women for menial, administrative, non-productive office jobs. That puts wage pressure on younger women, who will have increased inducement to stay out of who workforce and have babies and form stable families.

3. Low-class lesbian women, who are often fodder for minority baby daddies, are taken out of the reproduction pool.

4. Every gay or lesbian who dies an early death contributes to the long-term financial health of the country. Contribute to social programs, but don't have the kids or longevity to collect on them.


Order them slain, then, for they do not produce. They only consume.

5. Finally, every person who comes to realize what a disastrous effect government sanction has on marriage is one person closer to reforming the civil institution.

Better still, eliminate it. If the breeders would but cease to have children, there would be no need for it.

And in a scant two generations, there would be no more need for government services to draw from the wealth of the nation.

Anonymous dh February 01, 2013 2:30 PM  

Such is the voice of tolerance. Black is white, up is down, and short is long.

Tolerance doesn't mean what you think it means.

Blogger Giraffe February 01, 2013 2:31 PM  


1. Gays consume less government resources than their straight counterparts. Every man taken out of the reproductive gene pool is fewer children that will take from the government. You don't see Randall & Gary at the trailer park, with a bunch of government cheese mullet babies, do you?

Only because you retarded leftists think that the reason for government is to provide resources. But speaking of resources, they are wasted on Adam and Steve who fail to provide any children towards the next generation. Those of us on the right prefer to think of our children as "the future" instead of a drag on the lifestyle of drag queens.

2. They compete with women for menial, administrative, non-productive office jobs. That puts wage pressure on younger women, who will have increased inducement to stay out of who workforce and have babies and form stable families.

I'm glad you think stable families are fabulous. But Tad's a lawyer. Wait, that is a non-production office job.

3. Low-class lesbian women, who are often fodder for minority baby daddies, are taken out of the reproduction pool.

And when they marry and get artificially inseminated they go right back in. Strange you thought their being taken out was a benefit. Are you some kind of bigot?


4. Every gay or lesbian who dies an early death contributes to the long-term financial health of the country. Contribute to social programs, but don't have the kids or longevity to collect on them.

Again with the government as Santa Claus. But, dead gays as benefit? You do hate gays.

5. Finally, every person who comes to realize what a disastrous effect government sanction has on marriage is one person closer to reforming the civil institution.

We have to destroy marriage to save it.

You were right. Not hard at all.

Blogger JD Curtis February 01, 2013 2:31 PM  

A question for Tad,

If it could be conclusively shown that participants in a specific behavior suffer from...


A. Much higher rates of drug use, including amyl nitrate ("poppers"), and ranging from marijuana to Ecstasy, and also amphetamines.

B. Much higher rates of mental health issues such as anxiety and depression that members of the general population.

C. An increased risk of sexually transmitted infection with the viruses that cause the serious condition of the liver known as hepatitis.

D. Higher rates of alcoholism

F. Much higher rates of tobacco usage

G. Significantly higher rates of eating disorders such as buliemia and anorexia nervosa.


If all of these maladies can conclusively be proven for a particular group, then please explain why churches should not engage in discouraging the behavior in question. (Whether that behavior be heroin use or gay sex)

I'll come back in a bit to check your answer

Anonymous Loki of Asgard February 01, 2013 2:36 PM  

Tolerance doesn't mean what you think it means.

Ah, then I must update my Newspeak lexicon. I should not like to be double-plus ungood.

Anonymous dh February 01, 2013 2:36 PM  

Hear this, breeders. You give nothing, you pay nothing; you only take. Your children are a sap upon society, and well you ought to be ashamed for drawing from the coffers of government, which would be stuffed full to overflowing but for your cursed reproduction.

Yes. That's pretty much it. Too many Honey-Boo's, and not enough Margaret's and Mary's.

Order them slain, then, for they do not produce. They only consume.
No, the opposite. The gays over-contribute, not under. Every gay "family" of two men pays taxes for services never rendered. How many gay 90-years old do you see?

Better still, eliminate it. If the breeders would but cease to have children, there would be no need for it. And in a scant two generations, there would be no more need for government services to draw from the wealth of the nation.

We aren't talking the Duggers, the Smiths, and the Shiparo's. They are not the breeders. They are the families. We want more of them. (Well, jury is still out on the Duggers, but changes are high).

We are talking about the Shanaquah-Lopez's and the Dominque's and the Crystyl's and all of them.

Anonymous Anchorman February 01, 2013 2:36 PM  

First, it's rampant stupidity.
Second, well, the first is enough. You're a freakin' moron for putting out untrained spokesmen for lengthy interviews. Disciplining them after they make mistakes just compounds your stupidity.


Heh. Ooookay.

None of that changes an employers right to discipline an employee in that situation. Since you can't come up with a counter-argument, I think we can close the book on this.

Anonymous dh February 01, 2013 2:38 PM  

If all of these maladies can conclusively be proven for a particular group, then please explain why churches should not engage in discouraging the behavior in question. (Whether that behavior be heroin use or gay sex)

I'll come back in a bit to check your answer


We are way past discouragement. On the one end of the spectrum, are the ones who not discourage, they would make criminal. On the the lighter-end, they would banish/exile from the community with a little shame tossed in for fun.

Just cut the crap. We all know this has nothing to with drug use and bad habits. This isn't about discouragement. It's just about circling the wagons.

The problem is that you don't have enough wagons anymore.

Blogger Giraffe February 01, 2013 2:39 PM  

dh is letting his inner raciss homophobe out today. Tad and John Scalzi don't approve.

Anonymous Loki of Asgard February 01, 2013 2:41 PM  

But Tad's a lawyer.

No, no, no, silly mortal. Tad is not a blood-sucking lawyer. He is a consultant for blood-sucking lawyers. He performs a non-productive office job to aid hiring employees to perform non-productive office jobs to assist persons who bleed the wealth from others through non-productive office jobs.

I believe his occupation is legally called "the third degree of non-sanguinity".

Anonymous dh February 01, 2013 2:41 PM  

Tolerance doesn't mean that you have to agree or permit everything.

It means you have a fair, objective, and permissive attitude towards things which are different.

Seperate from homosexuals, just imagine any two groups.

Group A does not like Group B and wishes they did not exist. That is not fair nor permissive. Given the above, the Group B is not under obligation to pretend that Group A is tolerant, and treat them in a fair manner.

Anonymous Mike M. February 01, 2013 2:44 PM  

The Moslems will get into this LONG before the Christians.

Blogger James Dixon February 01, 2013 2:44 PM  

> We'll hold onto the things that worked and dump the rest overboard.

And you see, dh, knowing history, we already know how well that will work. You don't. It's almost enough to make us feel sorry for you. Almost.

> Shut the light off on your way out.

No need. It'll go off all by itself.

Blogger Giraffe February 01, 2013 2:44 PM  

No, no, no, silly mortal. Tad is not a blood-sucking lawyer. He is a consultant for blood-sucking lawyers. He performs a non-productive office job to aid hiring employees to perform non-productive office jobs to assist persons who bleed the wealth from others through non-productive office jobs.

I was wondering how non-productive office jobs fit into a philosophy called "Utilitarianism".

Anonymous Loki of Asgard February 01, 2013 2:44 PM  

We are talking about the Shanaquah-Lopez's and the Dominque's and the Crystyl's and all of them.

I see. Is this part of your lesson in tolerance? It seems you have nothing but praise for rich Anglo people and despite for ethnic whites and browner persons...

Anonymous Loki of Asgard February 01, 2013 2:48 PM  

Group A does not like Group B and wishes they did not exist. That is not fair nor permissive. Given the above, the Group B is not under obligation to pretend that Group A is tolerant, and treat them in a fair manner.

I see. So as long as Group B connects "I disapprove of your choices" and "DIE DIE DIE", they have carte blanche to persecute Group A.

Tolerance, it would appear, is what you do for people who agree with you. Right.

Blogger Giraffe February 01, 2013 2:48 PM  

Group A does not like Group B and wishes they did not exist. That is not fair nor permissive. Given the above, the Group B is not under obligation to pretend that Group A is tolerant, and treat them in a fair manner.

Wait a minute. The fact that group B is still alive to consider the matter despite the fact that Group A wishes the did not exist must mean something. Maybe if we look up the definition of "tolerant" instead of relying on the left liberal PC speak we can figure it out.

Blogger Giraffe February 01, 2013 2:49 PM  

Dammit Loki. You type too fast.

Anonymous dh February 01, 2013 2:50 PM  

dh is letting his inner raciss homophobe out today. Tad and John Scalzi don't approve.

This is the utilitarian argument for homosexuality. It's just math. You can't refute it. Gays are a net economic positive for society. They work and earn higher than average, and die earlier. They produce no expensive children who need a lifetime of welfare. There's a good chance he or she will overdose or commit suicide before they start to draw on benefits. Lesbian women tend to be fat, short, white and bitchy. They would typically be the type who makes a half-dozen babies with 3 or 4 Jamal's. Putting them in the lesbian pool takes them out of the breeder pool, and deprives the world of 5 more Honey-Boo's.

Anonymous Porky February 01, 2013 2:50 PM  

@Tad

You don't get to change definitions of the word because of your personal preferences. Promiscuity and perversion are licentious by definition.

And since when as engaging in dangerous pursuits required condemnation?

Not the pursuit, dummy. The lifestyle. A lifestyle associated with the spread of deadly disease should rightly be condemned.

Anonymous dh February 01, 2013 2:52 PM  

And you see, dh, knowing history, we already know how well that will work. You don't. It's almost enough to make us feel sorry for you. Almost.

I guess we'll find out. Since you are all too cowardly to actually make predictions that can be tested, we probably won't be able to hold your feet to the fire for your predictions.

Two weeks ago it was predicted that if NY passed a registration law the shooting would start. It hasn't. It won't in a month. It won't in three months.

You claim the lights will go out. But you won't say when, or how.

Anonymous Loki of Asgard February 01, 2013 2:52 PM  

Dammit Loki. You type too fast.

Another proof of my superiority. Are you feeling the urge to kneel yet?

Blogger Giraffe February 01, 2013 2:53 PM  

Admit it. You have a couple minions typing for you.

Anonymous dh February 01, 2013 2:54 PM  

Wait a minute. The fact that group B is still alive to consider the matter despite the fact that Group A wishes the did not exist must mean something. Maybe if we look up the definition of "tolerant" instead of relying on the left liberal PC speak we can figure it out.

The only reason that they are alive is because Group A is largely impotent. If they had their way, Group B would still be repressed, living underground, and/or dead. Or playthings for the wealthy, living in the closet.

Basically Group A is too weak to put their will into action.

Anonymous Loki of Asgard February 01, 2013 2:55 PM  

Lesbian women tend to be fat, short, white and bitchy. They would typically be the type who makes a half-dozen babies with 3 or 4 Jamal's.

They are notorious for their insatiable desire for sex with men, you know.

Anonymous Loki of Asgard February 01, 2013 2:57 PM  

Admit it. You have a couple minions typing for you.

Ten minions, in fact, each typing with one finger, as minions do.

Blogger Giraffe February 01, 2013 2:57 PM  

They are notorious for their insatiable desire for sex with men, you know.

I somehow missed the joke about Lesbian Dorito Night. But, the word insatiable just reminded me of it.

Anonymous dh February 01, 2013 3:00 PM  

On that same topic, the most hierarchical of the Christians, the Catholics, can't even get their flock to do anything. At all. The Church is constantly cowed by the lay. They all but demanded the lay to vote against Obama and still nearly split the self-identified Catholic vote.

Does anyone really believe that if the Bishops commanded to eliminate the gay threat anyone would listen?

Blogger Giraffe February 01, 2013 3:00 PM  

If they had their way, Group B would still be repressed, living underground, and/or dead. Or playthings for the wealthy, living in the closet.

Or..........

maybe they tolerate group B? Just maybe?

Anonymous Tallen February 01, 2013 3:02 PM  

That is not fair

You forgot a bunch of exclamation marks and 1's.

Anonymous George of the Hole February 01, 2013 3:03 PM  

This is the utilitarian argument...

Yes the same argument that has been used to sterilize the retarded, kill the unborn, experiment on the poor, and harvest organs from political prisoners.

The utilitarian argument can be used to justify nearly ANYTHING including eating babies wrapped in gold foil.

How compelling.

Anonymous dh February 01, 2013 3:05 PM  

maybe they tolerate group B? Just maybe?

Yes, a possibility. It's hard to tell if it's the regular level of fail for Christians or if all of the rhetoric is just a fundraising/buts in the seats type of play.

Anonymous dh February 01, 2013 3:05 PM  

Yes the same argument that has been used to sterilize the retarded, kill the unborn, experiment on the poor, and harvest organs from political prisoners.

The utilitarian argument can be used to justify nearly ANYTHING including eating babies wrapped in gold foil.

How compelling.


It is what it is. IT was asked for, I provided it.

Blogger James Dixon February 01, 2013 3:06 PM  

> Since you are all too cowardly to actually make predictions that can be tested, we probably won't be able to hold your feet to the fire for your predictions.

What's the point? The predictions have been made hundreds of times. You've never listened.

And since these things take decades to play out, it's not like I'm not going to be here to savor being correct. So enjoy your delusions while they last. With luck, they may even outlast your lifetime and you personally will never have to pay the price. With luck...

Anonymous 11B February 01, 2013 3:07 PM  

If it was the 2%-4% of the population that "destroyed" Western Civilization then you have to agree the strength of that civilization wasn't too great.

I suppose this can be taken as an admission that homosexuals are not 10 percent of the population.

Anonymous dh February 01, 2013 3:09 PM  

I suppose this can be taken as an admission that homosexuals are not 10 percent of the population.

Definitely agree with that. Only a few dead-enders cling to that. 1% is probably a good number of dedicated homosexuals. 1.5%-2% is perhaps including everyone who's ever strayed from 100% straight.

Anonymous Anonymous February 01, 2013 3:09 PM  

If it was the 2%-4% of the cancer cells that destroyed your body then you have to agree the strength of that doctor wasn't too great for cutting them out or eradicating them with radiation.

Blogger Giraffe February 01, 2013 3:10 PM  

I suppose this can be taken as an admission that homosexuals are not 10 percent of the population.

They are about 34% of sitcom characters.

Anonymous Gx1080 February 01, 2013 3:11 PM  

Forgot to ask: What's with NFL punters shaking their pom-pomps for the Rainbow Coalition? First Warcraft boy, then Mr. Ryan up there.

Also, dh is spewing the typical pro-eugenics bull that pro-lifers sell. If you are so worried that poor people sucking welfare, you could, you know, give them less.

Anonymous dh February 01, 2013 3:11 PM  

What's the point? The predictions have been made hundreds of times. You've never listened.

The point is that you and your ilk make endless predictions, and never want to be accountable for them.

Yes, eventually America will collapse, and something else will replace it. That fact does mean that any of things you claim are going to cause the collapse will in fact be the driver of that collapse.

When the Sun goes down tonight it won't be validation that my theory of "when Ewoks do a victory dance the Sun goes down" is correct.

Anonymous dh February 01, 2013 3:12 PM  

If you are so worried that poor people sucking welfare, you could, you know, give them less.
I agree with that.

Anonymous dh February 01, 2013 3:13 PM  

Also, dh is spewing the typical pro-eugenics bull that pro-lifers sell.

FYI, I am pro-eugenics.

Blogger Brian February 01, 2013 3:14 PM  

To the left, tolerance is a tool rather than an ideal. Back in the 60s, college leftists clamored for acceptance in the name of free speech. Now that they run the universities, they do their best to squelch any contrary voice. The tolerance demanded of the western majority today will not be granted when we are the minority.

Anonymous Anonymous February 01, 2013 3:18 PM  

Ridiculous.
1. Ryan is a punter.
2. Ryan is Canadian.
3. Ryan is a ginger.
4. Ryan is a uber-rabbit.

Ryan was on my university track team (he was a shitty 4x300 alternate). Bully to the core, but quickly backed down when confronted. There was a young, newly minted Christian on the team and was excited about his new discovery. We were coming back from a meet and it was an 8 hour bus ride back. He decided to mock the kid in front of all the athletes. This was not good-natured ribbing, it was angry, mean-spirited vitrol and very anti-Christian. I stood up and told him to shut his fucking mouth. He sat down and did. But like a rabbit to this day he gives me dirty looks if I see him. Rabbit through and through.

Sasquatch

Anonymous Loki of Asgard February 01, 2013 3:18 PM  

Does anyone really believe that if the Bishops commanded to eliminate the gay threat anyone would listen?

Excellent reason not to tolerate that particular Group A, then; they would never act on their dislike of Group B.

Great lights in the sky, but you are amusing.

Anonymous dh February 01, 2013 3:19 PM  

To the left, tolerance is a tool rather than an ideal. Back

Yeah, this is definitely true.

Anonymous George of the Hole February 01, 2013 3:20 PM  

It is what it is.

No, it's not.

Anonymous George of the Hole February 01, 2013 3:25 PM  

dh: "FYI, I am pro-eugenics."

Then you'll understand why you need to be castrated.

Anonymous Loki of Asgard February 01, 2013 3:26 PM  

Then you'll understand why you need to be castrated.

Tad will be so disappointed.

Anonymous dh February 01, 2013 3:30 PM  

Then you'll understand why you need to be castrated.

Yes, I've already beaten you to it.

Anonymous Loki of Asgard February 01, 2013 3:33 PM  

Yes, I've already beaten you to it.

You will forgive my restraint, but this one is far, far too easy...

Blogger hadley February 01, 2013 3:34 PM  

C'mon, Tad, it's not like we make homophobic rabbis paid government employees so they can exhort the Israeli jewish religious nutcases to slaughter homosexuals with machine guns in their homosexual nightclubs.

Rather than trying to guilt-trip the goyim, if you really want to help homosexuals, make Aliyah and stop the Jewish homo-murders in your homeland. Believe me, when you have Israeli government-subsidized Jewish homophobia things get extremely ugly.

Anonymous Daniel February 01, 2013 3:36 PM  

Sasquatch, that's awesome. Go Rams!

Anonymous kh123 February 01, 2013 3:39 PM  

Punters gonna punt.

"If it was the 2%-4% of the population that "destroyed" Western Civilization..."

Maybe someone can cover how many Typhoid Marys it takes to cause endemic or pandemic levels.

Anonymous Daniel February 01, 2013 3:40 PM  

Now if only we can get the NFL to come out with an official statement on "Homophobic Rabbis vs. Homophilic Rabbits," I can die a happy man.

Anonymous Tad February 01, 2013 3:50 PM  

@Porky

Not the pursuit, dummy. The lifestyle. A lifestyle associated with the spread of deadly disease should rightly be condemned.

Disease comes in many forms. What about the disease of the mind that a Christian lifestyle contributes to?

Anonymous FP February 01, 2013 3:52 PM  

The Oregon DOJ is going after a Christian bakery here in Oregon for turning down a wedding cake order for lesbians.

http://www.thoughtsfromaconservativemom.com/2013/01/oregon-ag-investigates-christian-bakery-for-refusing-to-bake-wedding-cake-for-gay-couple/

Blogger James Dixon February 01, 2013 4:03 PM  

> The point is that you and your ilk make endless predictions,

You mean like the fact that the liberal end point of gun control is the eventual removal of all guns from civilian hands? That's not a prediction. That's taking people at their word.

Anonymous Loki of Asgard February 01, 2013 4:06 PM  

What about the disease of the mind that a Christian lifestyle contributes to?

And then, predictably, he plays the "you are all mad" card. I believe bonus points are accrued for adding the "you're another one" card in a combo play.

For his next trick, Tad will make a reference to your lack of education.

Anonymous Tad February 01, 2013 4:06 PM  

@JD

Given the dangerous and licentious nature of that lifestyle it seems perfectly reasonable to speak out against it.

It would be an improvement if churches took this tack. For now they simply make silly and nonsensical moral condemnations.

Anonymous bob k. mando February 01, 2013 4:09 PM  

JohnR February 01, 2013 1:42 PM
Black but not gay.
Sorry, gays don't have a lock on this kind of behavior.



do you not understand the difference between a food ( MEAT, even? ) and a condiment?

besides, it was fried chicken. i'm not even black and i could almost see getting into a fight if somebody tried to dis Popeye's Spicy.

them poor boys didn't stand a chance, bein black as they is.




dh February 01, 2013 2:50 PM
Gays are a net economic positive for society. They work and earn higher than average, and die earlier.



WHY do they die earlier?

it wouldn't have anything whatsoever to do with extensive ( not to say EXPENSIVE ) drug and treatment regimens, now would it?

strange how queers "don't cost society anything".

i also wonder about the sanitary conditions in reefer ( that's the industry term for refrigerated van trailers ) meat packing trucks that the queers so notoriously used for their late night orgies. semen, sweat, blood and feces everywhere. that couldn't possibly have any health consequences for the population at large, could it?


dh February 01, 2013 2:50 PM
They produce no expensive children who need a lifetime of welfare.


children are an "expense" to society. and we were all once children, were we ( excepting any residents of Valhalla ) not?

yerp. that about says it all, right there. the ultimate root inversion ( lie ) of all satanic ideologies. in reality, men are the ONLY wealth of a society.

every demand for products or services comes FROM men and every product or service is provided BY men. what if the North American continent was made of solid gold but the population of the entire earth was *one*? who would the king of the world sell his continent too? would his gold continent feed him, clothe him, provide him with drink or keep the rain off of his head?

IF the children of a society *truly are* a net cost to that society THEN they are a net cost *because* that society has set out to destroy those children as productive human beings.

suddenly, public education makes sense.



dh February 01, 2013 3:00 PM
Does anyone really believe that if the Bishops commanded to eliminate the gay threat anyone would listen?



dumbass. the American Catholic clergy is a notorious hotbed of queers. the Catholics themselves talk about it.

then you've got the most famous Catholics in the country, the Kennedy's, who flout practically every pronouncement from Rome. why should the laity pay any more attention?



dh February 01, 2013 3:11 PM
When the Sun goes down tonight it won't be validation that my theory of "when Ewoks do a victory dance the Sun goes down" is correct.


*snort*

dh expends multiple posts demanding that someone of the Ilk produce for him a prediction by which an Ilk hypothesis may be tested

...

and immediately demonstrates that it matters not one whit whether your prediction comes true or not, he's still going to deny that there's any truth to what you said.

he plays the 'testable hypothesis' card right up until it no longer serves his purpose. just as he plays all the rest of his cards.

Anonymous Tad February 01, 2013 4:10 PM  

@loki

And then, predictably, he plays the "you are all mad" card.

Not "mad", just immoral.

Anonymous Loki of Asgard February 01, 2013 4:11 PM  

children are an "expense" to society. and we were all once children, were we ( excepting any residents of Valhalla ) not?

I was an adorable child. Mother said as much, often.

Anonymous Loki of Asgard February 01, 2013 4:13 PM  

Not "mad", just immoral.

I see, so you believe all sufferers of mental illness, real or alleged, to be morally reprehensible.

Anonymous Porky February 01, 2013 4:14 PM  

Disease comes in many forms. What about the disease of the mind that a Christian lifestyle contributes to?

Is this a real disease described in medical literature, or is it just something you call a disease because you don't like it?

Anonymous Tad February 01, 2013 4:18 PM  

@Porky

Is this a real disease described in medical literature, or is it just something you call a disease because you don't like it?

Just a simple case of the mind diseased by the silly, immoral sh*t Christianity has been spreading for centuries.

Anonymous Loki of Asgard February 01, 2013 4:22 PM  

Just a simple case of the mind diseased by the silly, immoral sh*t

So Signe's argument that words have a dangerous, deleterious effect holds true even in your own estimation; they cause mental illness. Let us impose the Free Speech Registration Act forthwith.

Christianity has been spreading for centuries.

Not to mention that hideous filth in Judaism. Those horrid Jews, diseased with their homophobia from centuries before Christianity...

And finally...

immoral

A word with no more condemnation to it than "yucky".

Anonymous dh February 01, 2013 4:23 PM  

WHY do they die earlier?
...
strange how queers "don't cost society anything".


Drug addicts who die young are a net positive for society. Big time. Eliminate those with bad impulse control. Especially the types that work in professional jobs for a bit, then self-destruct quickly and with a whimper. I didn't say they didn't cost anything, you made that quote up. They are a net economic positive.

i also wonder about the sanitary conditions in reefer ( that's the industry term for refrigerated van trailers ) meat packing trucks that the queers so notoriously used for their late night orgies. semen, sweat, blood and feces everywhere. that couldn't possibly have any health consequences for the population at large, could it?
I am sure it did.

children are an "expense" to society. and we were all once children, were we ( excepting any residents of Valhalla ) not?

yerp. that about says it all, right there. the ultimate root inversion ( lie ) of all satanic ideologies. in reality, men are the ONLY wealth of a society.

NO, the "right" type of people are the wealth of a society. The "WRONG" type of people are the death of a society. That's the entire premise of the position here of the elk. The alternative for the offspring of gay men are not healthy, well-formed families. The alternative is dysfunctional, crime-ridden, violence-ridden, shit-show families. Given that, the non-fruitful gay "marriage" is highly preferable to the one producing bad spawn that the rest of society has to cleanup after for a few decades.

IF the children of a society *truly are* a net cost to that society THEN they are a net cost *because* that society has set out to destroy those children as productive human beings.

suddenly, public education makes sense.

Yes, again, the alternative for gay men is not that they are going to into happy-Christian warrior men, who home-school and have golden retrievers. These people would otherwise live desperate lives of closeted furtive homosexuality, producing welfare collecting offspring who in turn spawn further.

dumbass. the American Catholic clergy is a notorious hotbed of queers. the Catholics themselves talk about it.

then you've got the most famous Catholics in the country, the Kennedy's, who flout practically every pronouncement from Rome. why should the laity pay any more attention?

Agree. And they are the most likely to submit to hierarchy. The rest of the denominations have even less adherence to central authority, save the Big Man himself.

and immediately demonstrates that it matters not one whit whether your prediction comes true or not, he's still going to deny that there's any truth to what you said.
I require a testable prediction. That is, do not predict the Sun will go down and then come up. Predict that the Sun will go down because the Earth orbits the Sun in a cyclical pattern lasting approximately 24 hours, and as such, a daily cycle of exposure and dark is predicted.

It is not enough to predict America will collapse. All things end. Predicting and end to a thing is predicting that the clock will stop. It is not a prediction, it is an observation.

An acceptable prediction involves setting forth both the precursors and the result. The result is the collapse of America. You must define collapse, you must define America. You must specify the reasons and how you will measure those reasons.

Here is a prediction that is testable: "America will collapse in 2018, after the Chinese refuse to buy more American debt. After the US defaults, China occupy's the West Coast and installs a puppet government; thereby taking control the dollar."

A prediction that is not testable, and is therefore pathetic and nothing more than intellectual masturbation: "The liberals are going to cause America to collapse".

See the difference now? Perhaps if you were more intelligent you could discern the simple difference more easily.

Blogger hadley February 01, 2013 4:29 PM  

In Wisconsin the process started with decriminalization (way before AIDS). The homosexual rhetoric was, "golly guys, you obviously aren't arresting us for felonious fudgepacking, so why not just get rid of the law. Not enforcing the law just teaches contempt for the law and makes us live in daily fear that is unwarranted. If sodomy was decriminalized we would be much more likely to seek health care and get cured of STD's thereby helping the community. We aren't asking you to approve or even like anal exploring. In fact we respect the deep religious beliefs of our friends and neighbors. We just cant help being what we are. But rest assured. We certainly won't go chasing your young boys and trying to convert them. We will just hang out at our quiet out of the way homosexual bars and pack fudge at home with the shades pulled and the doors locked. Not to worry. Nothing will change except a heightened respect for the law and reduced veneral disease."

Of course it was all b@ll sh!t 40 years ago when sodomites pitched decriminalization. But, as the author notes, once decriminalized it is only a hop skip and jump to "tolerate", then to "celebrate", then to "mandate". Better to go back to mild criminality that is enforced only in truly grotesque cases. We will shortly be seeing group marriage and polygamy decriminalized using the homosexual arguments of 40 years ago.

We are seeing the same slippery slope with Orthodox Jews and Muslims. In Israel The Jews have started beating women if they ride at the front of the bus. They stab homosexuals at gay parades. They hang sheets down the middle of public streets and demand that women walk on one side where the men cannot see them. Muslims do the same things in Muslim countries and now European countries. The police look the other way.

So we have slippery slopes going both ways at the same time. There is going to be hell to pay when they all arrive at the bottom and run into each other going full speed in opposite directions.

Blogger James Dixon February 01, 2013 4:32 PM  

> Not "mad", just immoral.

I thought you didn't believe in any absolute morality, Tad. Was I confusing you with someone else?

Anonymous Vitus_Bering February 01, 2013 4:32 PM  

Clearly, Tad's mother was taller than his father.

Anonymous allyn71 February 01, 2013 4:36 PM  

"Not "mad", just immoral."

Yeah the God fearing, civilization creating, family raising people are immoral while the disease ridden, narcissistic, death worshippers are the models to follow. More of that illustrious and sound logic on display.

By the way Tad what is your basis for the distinction of what or who is immoral?

Blogger john February 01, 2013 4:38 PM  

I haven't read all the comments, but I have to get this in here:

"So true!! You'd think all that time I spent referencing an ancient book of fables to justify my claims of just how evil Homosexuals are would have prevented me from changing my mind and concluding that I was brainwashed and deluded through that whole episode."

Are we really going to have this conversation again?!? I'm SICK OF IT!! I don't care what the queers do in the bedroom. But PLEASE stop asking me to validate it. I don't validate it. You are degenerates and low-lifes and I don't want that behaviour normalized as a part of my society. Go get your own gay society and stop trying to force it on my children.

I will NEVER say, "you are right, being queer is a good thing and normal." It isn't normal. I'm sorry you don't like my standards. Go create your own country and you can hump each other in the butt as much as you want, faggots!

Sam Kinison (he was really crude, but he "nailed" it):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Np67piTSAzk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDL7fN8mS4A

Anonymous Lemmenkainen February 01, 2013 4:44 PM  

> We will shortly be seeing group marriage and polygamy decriminalized using the homosexual arguments of 40 years ago.

Don't forget the pedos. They were born like that you know. :P

Anonymous Porky February 01, 2013 4:46 PM  

Just a simple case of the mind diseased by the silly, immoral sh*t Christianity has been spreading for centuries.

Ahh, so it's just something you made up.

Meanwhile the diseases spread by licentious perverted lifestyle are real. They are described in medical literature. They destroy lives. They kill.

Anonymous Fred February 01, 2013 4:47 PM  

Reading holy books, praying, serving the poor, children and widows = disease of the mind

Sticking your wong into random bungholes = clean wholesome fun



Anonymous Anonymous February 01, 2013 4:51 PM  

Tad, how is the HIV treatement going?

- Ben Dover

Anonymous Tad February 01, 2013 4:54 PM  

Allyn

By the way Tad what is your basis for the distinction of what or who is immoral?

Same as yours....The one I chose to adopt.

Anonymous Tad February 01, 2013 4:56 PM  

@Porky

Meanwhile the diseases spread by licentious perverted lifestyle are real. They are described in medical literature. They destroy lives. They kill.

And yet, here I am. Alive, disease free, monogamous, happy, successful and gay.

Anonymous dh February 01, 2013 4:57 PM  

Are we really going to have this conversation again?!? I'm SICK OF IT!! I don't care what the queers do in the bedroom. But PLEASE stop asking me to validate it. I don't validate it. You are degenerates and low-lifes and I don't want that behaviour normalized as a part of my society. Go get your own gay society and stop trying to force it on my children.

Well which is it - do you not care, or must gays go some place else?

Secondly, it's not rape if they like it. Hear that? Your kids aren't being forced to be gay. If they like gay sex, it's because they are gay and you failed.

Anonymous Tad February 01, 2013 4:59 PM  

@John

Go get your own gay society and stop trying to force it on my children.

I will NEVER say, "you are right, being queer is a good thing and normal." It isn't normal. I'm sorry you don't like my standards. Go create your own country and you can hump each other in the butt as much as you want, faggots!


John, if your children are gay, then they'll be gay, no matter what their bigoted father says or thinks. What's curious is if you'd tell your kids to "go hum" and tell them to leave the country.

I wonder if your children are secretly gay. I wonder if you are.

Blogger john February 01, 2013 5:04 PM  

"Secondly, it's not rape if they like it. Hear that?"

Don't even go there dh. Why would you assume I was talking about rape? What I was actually referring to are the attempts at homosexual socialization practiced in the public schools. But now, you immediately jumped to rape. Interesting.

Does everyone see the violence in the pro-faggot queer position? What scum of the earth.

Blogger john February 01, 2013 5:09 PM  

And now we get the arguments that if someone vociferously objects, then "oh, you must be gay yourself."

You understand this comes from a flawed model of psychology right? Freud was a charlatan.

Notice how viciously the faggot queers want your children too. They can't stand that we are teaching children that being a fudge packer is wrong. They will stop at nothing to entrap your children for revenge purposes.

Anonymous dh February 01, 2013 5:11 PM  

Don't even go there dh. Why would you assume I was talking about rape? What I was actually referring to are the attempts at homosexual socialization practiced in the public schools. But now, you immediately jumped to rape. Interesting.

Ohh, I just "jumped" to rape:

Go get your own gay society and stop trying to force it on my children.

Force it on your children? Force what on them?

Reality is that your point of view is rapidly, rapidly dying off. Massive shifts in public opinion just in the last few years. In another decade at least 2/3 of the country will be homosexual-neutral, and at least half homosexual-positive.

You can blame it on the schools but it's your fault for allowing them to be there at all.

By the time your kids are old enough to have the gay sex you are so afraid of, or a three-way, or be the fluffer during an orgy, the society will not be yours. It will be that are forced to go somewhere else to enjoy your gay-free world.

Anonymous stg58/Animal Mother February 01, 2013 5:12 PM  

And now, we notice Tad using the devastating counter argument "your kids are gay and you are too".

I just can't see how John is going to come back from this absolutely brilliant play.

Anonymous dh February 01, 2013 5:15 PM  

Does everyone see the violence in the pro-faggot queer position? What scum of the earth.

John, face it, the America you want to be is over. The gays, the lesbians, the liberals, the left, the socialists, a few communists, the fasicts, have all taken it away from you.

And in the end they'll probably convert one or all of your kids. The mathematical chance that they will even nominally believe in God by the time they reach adulthood is barely 50%. The chance they will be practice Christians by the time they time reach middle age is even lower.

You have failed to pass on the America you received. Look, I Mean, in just a few years some states have gone from narrowly defeating gay marriage to handily passing it. In Maine, for example, it was a 12-pt shift in 3 years.

No matter what you teach your children, the mathematical odds are that they will be gay, enjoy some level of gay sex, or be supportive of gay normalization during their life time.

You'll be dead and buried, and they'll be enjoying gay sex.

Blogger john February 01, 2013 5:15 PM  

Does everyone see? dh celebrates a descent into immorality. Good luck with that.

And no, my kids aren't in public school. My family home schools.

Anonymous Vitus_Bering February 01, 2013 5:16 PM  

"By the time your kids are old enough to have the gay sex you are so afraid of, or a three-way, or be the fluffer during an orgy, the society will not be yours. It will be that are forced to go somewhere else to enjoy your gay-free world."

If it ever gets to this, then I believe we should get the same thing Sodom and Gomorrah got.

Anonymous Porky February 01, 2013 5:16 PM  

And yet, here I am. Alive, disease free, monogamous, happy, successful and gay.

And here am I. Freedom loving, sensible, un-bigoted, and Christian.

Kumbayah you sonofabitch.



Anonymous dh February 01, 2013 5:18 PM  

And no, my kids aren't in public school. My family home schools.

Great - that's very honest of you. I support your dedication to principle. Most Americans are not that principled. They just keyboard jockey.

immorality
Guess what. Your view of immorality is going the way of the dodo. Very, very, quickly. The tide has turned. It's over. You lost the culture wars.

All that's left is to discuss the terms of your surrender.

If you promise to only practice your deviant ways behind closed doors, and not display it in public, we'll let you stay here. Otherwise, go found some other country where you can be gay-free.

Blogger john February 01, 2013 5:18 PM  

dh: We'll see about that. I am the one training my children, not you.

Anonymous dh February 01, 2013 5:20 PM  

If it ever gets to this, then I believe we should get the same thing Sodom and Gomorrah got.

It is this. Right now. The public shaming period of time has already started. Anti-gay's are completely shunned in public life. In another 10-14 years there won't be a single politician in office that is against pro-gay normalization. After gay marriage, full protection for gays in the workplace and in public will be codified into law.

You have already lost. It's over.

Anonymous Vitus_Bering February 01, 2013 5:23 PM  

"You have already lost."

You're right. I agree we have "lost" our culture.
But, then again, I've read the end of the "book of fables" as someone on here called Holy Scripture, and I know Who wins.

Jesus decides right and wrong, not culture.

Anonymous dh February 01, 2013 5:24 PM  

dh: We'll see about that. I am the one training my children, not you.

We will see.

Let me just put it this way. In 1959, it was completely acceptable to say things along the line of: "You should avoid large gatherings of black people, if you are white". It was common sense. It was something your parents taught you and they every knew was true. In fact, you didn't even have to say it. It was just the truth.

Barely 50 years later, writing it just once, ONCE, is enough to get a conservative white-male fired from a magazine founded, edited, and read exclusively by conservative white males. And not just fired. Denounced by people you've known and worked with YEARS. People who have praised you and praised your intellectually abilities.

All that happened in about 50 years. 2 generations.

The pro-gay normalization is already 30 years in. In 20 more years, it is very likely that saying anything mean against a gay will result in jail time.

Anonymous Vitus_Bering February 01, 2013 5:24 PM  

I was unclear...
Jesus decides right and wrong. Culture does not decide.

Anonymous Anonagain February 01, 2013 5:25 PM  

When human depravity is normalized, the society is finished. There is a reason for the distinction between healthy, normal behavior and deviant behavior, as well as the promotion of one and condemnation of the other - one sustains the individual, one destroys the individual. Society is comprised of individuals. This really is a no-brainer. Those who refuse to acknowledge this fundamental truth are victims of their corrupt and festering society.

Anonymous dh February 01, 2013 5:28 PM  

You're right. I agree we have "lost" our culture.
But, then again, I've read the end of the "book of fables" as someone on here called Holy Scripture, and I know Who wins.


Great, we all agree that until the end of times, when judgement happens, you have lost.

We can now start negotiating the terms of surrender. You can stay here if you keep your anti-gay anti-normalization ways behind your closed doors. Don't display it in public, and don't let it out at night. Otherwise you will be excluded from polite society, and we may put you in jail. If your kids are gay or queer, well you can banish them from life but we may call you bad names and shame you some more.

Anonymous George of the Hole February 01, 2013 5:28 PM  

All that's left is to discuss the terms of your surrender.

Umm, dh, Christians have known the endgame for around 2 millennia. Christians are not shocked by the increase of evil - we are simply fascinated to watch the prophecies unfold in stunning detail.

And of course, surrender would be awfully stupid given that we already know our side wins in the end.

Anonymous dh February 01, 2013 5:31 PM  

Umm, dh, Christians have known the endgame for around 2 millennia. Christians are not shocked by the increase of evil - we are simply fascinated to watch the prophecies unfold in stunning detail.
This is great. I am glad we all agree. The pro-gay forces have won, and Christians are happy to wait around until judgement. At which time they will win. In the meantime, the wicked will inherent the earth.

And of course, surrender would be awfully stupid given that we already know our side wins in the end.

So then, if you don't surrender, then what? If you this is your fighting back, it's pathetic.

Also known as, when does the shooting start? Shouldn't you be out rounding up the gays and shooting them?

I mean, if they are as bad as claimed, why wouldn't you have waged a holy war on them.

Various religious sects have ordered just holy wars before. Why isn't there a shooting war against the gays? They are evil, right?

Blogger Giraffe February 01, 2013 5:31 PM  

Barely 50 years later, writing it just once, ONCE, is enough to get a conservative white-male fired from a magazine founded, edited, and read exclusively by conservative white males. And not just fired. Denounced by people you've known and worked with YEARS. People who have praised you and praised your intellectually abilities.

It's still true, though. That's the problem you have. There are still reasons to avoid large gatherings of black people. Not all of them.

You can call it gay "marriage", but it never will be. You can back a lie with the force of law but it is still a lie.

Anonymous dh February 01, 2013 5:32 PM  

It's still true, though. That's the problem you have. There are still reasons to avoid large gatherings of black people. Not all of them.

So what? I agree it's true. YOU CAN'T EVEN SAY THE TRUTH.

You've lost when you can't even say whats literally true.

Blogger JD Curtis February 01, 2013 5:34 PM  

Michael Brown is already all over this...

"As for Culliver, his “sweet stuff” comments are regrettable and his timing was awful, but is it so wrong for an athlete to say that he wouldn’t be at home with openly gay teammates? I’ve heard firsthand from a number of straight female softball players who were very uncomfortable with the strong lesbian presence on their teams – they have reported being pressured personally by their lesbian teammates – to the point that some have quit playing entirely. And since a professional football team develops deep personal bonds between the teammates, is it wrong to think that, at times, two straight men might relate differently than a straight man and a gay man, or that they might feel differently about standing around naked in the locker room? (Call it homophobic if you will; I call it perfectly understandable.)"

Link to full article

Anonymous Porky February 01, 2013 5:35 PM  

You can stay here if you keep your anti-gay anti-normalization ways behind your closed doors. Don't display it in public, and don't let it out at night. Otherwise you will be excluded from polite society, and we may put you in jail.

Jeez, you already fed us to lions and burned us for human street lamps and we didn't whine about it. What are you going to do to us now - force us to watch reruns of Glee?

Blogger john February 01, 2013 5:35 PM  

"If you promise to only practice your deviant ways behind closed doors, and not display it in public, we'll let you stay here. Otherwise, go found some other country where you can be gay-free."

Says dh, who is in a clear minority of the population. Don't wake the sleeping giant douche-bag. You won't like what you find. You are safe in your fag infested cities. There are still areas of the country where that deviant behaviour is dealt with more forcefully than words.

And to Tad's point: Yes. I would put the wayward child out of the community until he or she saw the error of their ways. It's called parting company with people who practice evil. And if that is your children, it sucks, but so be it. We are accountable to God first, not the Collective. If it means I have to die defending that belief, ok.

You see, we don't worship the State or Society like the fag Communists. Am I being harsh? Un-Christian? Un-Loving? Depends on your definition of "love." Love is sacrifice. It's actually a loving act to call you out in your immoral behaviour and warn you of what is coming if you die in your sin. I would say the same thing to my children.

I know this falls on deaf ears, but I'm saying it anyway. God will not be mocked. If the majority of Americans fall your way, then we will be destroyed.

Just by the way, dh and Tad, you don't really think everything is just hunky-dory right now do you? I mean, the economy is is serious trouble. Unemployment stays stubbornly high. GMO foods are sterilizing people (oh, forgot, you want people to die). The U.S. is engaged in unwinnable wars around the globe having their asses handed to them by a bunch of Muslim peasants. It's not all sunshine and roses, but you probably haven't noticed because the JIT delivery system is still delivering you AIDS medications, food, and other supplies regularly.

You may think you are winning now, but you don't win in the end. Every person dies and then faces God. I know you don't believe that but it's true. Don't say no one tried to shock you out of your licentiousness with harsh words.

Anonymous dh February 01, 2013 5:41 PM  

Says dh, who is in a clear minority of the population. Don't wake the sleeping giant douche-bag. You won't like what you find. You are safe in your fag infested cities. There are still areas of the country where that deviant behaviour is dealt with more forcefully than words.
Like where? You know it's spreading, right? Wyoming is happening next up. Indiana is happening. There will be some holds, but when you die, your kids will replace you, and they are overwhelmingly homo-positive. We surround you.

I know this falls on deaf ears, but I'm saying it anyway. God will not be mocked. If the majority of Americans fall your way, then we will be destroyed.
Yes he will. You can't even say what you think in public. You will be shunned from polite society.

Just by the way, dh and Tad, you don't really think everything is just hunky-dory right now do you? I mean, the economy is is serious trouble. Unemployment stays stubbornly high. GMO foods are sterilizing people (oh, forgot, you want people to die). The U.S. is engaged in unwinnable wars around the globe having their asses handed to them by a bunch of Muslim peasants. It's not all sunshine and roses, but you probably haven't noticed because the JIT delivery system is still delivering you AIDS medications, food, and other supplies regularly.

I agree 100% with you. Things are in the shitter.

You may think you are winning now, but you don't win in the end. Every person dies and then faces God. I know you don't believe that but it's true. Don't say no one tried to shock you out of your licentiousness with harsh words.
Agreed. In the meantime, you can be in the minority for a while. And feel the power of the majority. Feel the oppression. It's coming for you. It won't be this year, or next year, but before you die, you will be grinding your teeth. You will be angry that your beliefs making you socially unacceptable. You will be shunned, mocked, laughed at, and belittled. And you will deserve it.

I don't believe 99% of what I've wrote on this thread, but it's fun to imagine a world where the shoe is on the other foot. Most of you grew up in societies where it was normal to be how you are. That time is ending. The tides have turned, and if they turn back when we all die, or some day in the future, I rest assured that you will get your turn to suffer at the hands of an uncaring, unflinging machine that is called the majority.

Anonymous bob k. mando February 01, 2013 5:45 PM  

dh February 01, 2013 5:18 PM
If you promise to only practice your deviant ways behind closed doors, and not display it in public, we'll let you stay here. Otherwise, go found some other country where you can be gay-free.



ah-heeeee.

as he says this in a nation founded by Christians on the principle that Christians should be free to worship however they so chose.


the funny thing is that many of us here AGREE with you that the culture war is 'lost' ... in the short term. this is, in fact, part of the reason why Vox left the country.

it's why i made that little addendum about the miserable product of public schooling making sense.

it's why we talk about the Brothel and the Burqqa.

we aren't looking 10, 20 or even 50 years down the road ( although it MAY come that soon ), we're looking at this in terms of survival of the society and we're using a scale of centuries.

your ilk tell us that we should do such-and-such because it's 'progressive'. we point out the obvious problems that your policies will institute ( such as all of your whining about welfare babies, welfare programs having been emplaced by your kind ). you claim that we're scare-mongering and 'living in a mythological golden age which never actually existed'. the problems manifest EXACTLY AS WE DESCRIBED but by this time ( two or three decades on, less oftentimes ) you and those you serve have made what was once the progressive and revolutionary concept the new moral imperative.

you may well bring about your shiny, secular utopia of mandatory homosexuality ( such as Matt Wagner's "The Aeralist" http://www.comicswaitingroom.com/mattwagner.html ).

we're talking about what comes after.

Blogger john February 01, 2013 5:48 PM  

"The tides have turned, and if they turn back when we all die, or some day in the future, I rest assured that you will get your turn to suffer at the hands of an uncaring, unflinging machine that is called the majority."

I rest my case. Straight from the mouth of dh. They want revenge. So much for their inclusive rhetoric.

Anonymous kh123 February 01, 2013 5:55 PM  

[paraphrased] "We don't want justice; we want to settle accounts."

-Attributed to F.E. Dzerzhinsky, leading member of the Cheka during the formative years of the Soviet Union

Anonymous George of the Hole February 01, 2013 5:57 PM  

Why isn't there a shooting war against the gays? They are evil, right?

Ephesians 6. The sword we use against the "spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms" is the Word of God.

It is sharp, isn't it?

Blogger hadley February 01, 2013 6:13 PM  

Tad is right. Civilizations rise and fall with regularity. Nations, however, can survive as long as they build antibodies into their culture as the Jews have. Make lying to other peoples a commandment. Make sex with other peoples a criminal offense. Never get so tied to a particular piece of dirt that you will fight to the death. Pack your bags and be ready to move out at a moment's notice. Buy your way out of the draft in whatever country you live. Make "snitching" on your own people a capital offense. The Jews have done all of these things and it has kept them safe. In fact, as much as I like them, I expect the Israelis will be extinguished long before the Jews are because the Zionists bought into ethnic nationalism and owning a (little bitty) piece of dirt.

It all started 2000 years ago when the Jews got their @ss beat by the Romans. The bull rabbis realized that lust over a little piece of dirt (Israel) is what led the Jews to revolution, destruction and dispersion. So they established a portable religion and laws (I.e. rabbinic Judaism) that preserve the Jewish people and require them to not put down roots or mix with other people. The Jews were never supposed to return to Israel until the Messiah comes and tells them to return. [The Zionists fscked up and decided to return before God told them to. Big Mistake. Google Naturei Karta]

Tad is just following the 2000 year old rabbinic cultural script. "Evil Savage Heathens will always kill us. Never trust them. Breed race pure. Scatter widely. Don't put down roots. Don't be stupid and fight in goy armies" As soon as you realize he is not evil, he just has a different script that he follows, it makes him easier to understand. You just need to realize he is not looking out for your interests or trying to make your America a better place. He is not one of you and hasn't been for 2000 years. Not to say he wants to kill you or anything (as the Jewish law says, messing with the Gentiles will get Jews kilt: don't do it if the goyim are looking.")

Look, Tad just has his own people's interests at heart. And isn't that what we should all have? Our own people's interests at heart?

So when Tad says something, just consider the source and ask yourself, "Is it good for the Jews?" The answer is always, "Yes." But don't hate him. For heavens sake, emulate him! He fights for his people. He knows their interests are at odds with ours and he keeps plugging away, God bless him. He's a fighter. Hey, look at it this way: better Tad pitching standard party line Gentile guilt trip at you than Tad weaseling out your identity on the internet and getting you fired, right? Think of Tad as our own personal Hasbara Squad.

America is now a conglomeration of warring ethnic groups all looking out for their own survival. We are not a "nation". Only white European goyim fall for that stuff. Tad fights for his people. We fight for ours. May the best man win.

Anonymous Nihilus February 01, 2013 6:32 PM  

Isaiah 19:2
“I will stir up Egyptian against Egyptian— brother will fight against brother, neighbor against neighbor, city against city, kingdom against kingdom.


I'm sure this is just coincidence.

Blogger hadley February 01, 2013 6:34 PM  

Aww, c'mon, Tad. Two thousand years ago you Jews sent out agents to convert us to Judaism, like your Apostle Paul. You brought your bible to us heathen savages and suckled us on your exterminationist history. And now that you have us converted to believing in your Death to All F@gg0ts Levitical law, you want to blame US?!?!

What is it with you Jewish colonialist nutcases? You infect us with an exterminationist meme for 2000 years and all of a sudden it is OUR fault? OUR book of fables?

When are you going to pay us heathens reparations for the untold suffering you have inflicted on us is what I want to know.

"Book of Fables" indeed! Like we wrote it and stuck the world with it! Like you and your family don't read that Old Testament "Book of Fables" dozens of times each year!

How does that every single day of the year Jewish prayer go?: "Dear God, thank you for not making me a woman [ugh!] or one of those heathen savages [double ugh!]"

Nice try, Tad, but my Gentile Guilt Deflector Shields stopped it before the Dilithium crystals went critical.

Anonymous Tad February 01, 2013 8:00 PM  

@Hadley

Tad fights for his people. We fight for ours. May the best man win.

But you don't get it. YOUR people, Hadley, are the bigots. And they lost. MY people are the righteous, the folks who are happy to live with anyone, but will oppose the bigots.

You lost. I won. The bigots are few and far between now.

Anonymous Anonymous February 01, 2013 8:14 PM  

We are happy to live with anyone but bigots like Tad.

Tad is sexist and racist too. Plus a Pink Swastica chode smoker.

Anonymous Mudz February 01, 2013 8:15 PM  

@ dh

"I don't believe 99% of what I've wrote on this thread, but it's fun to imagine a world where the shoe is on the other foot. Most of you grew up in societies where it was normal to be how you are. That time is ending. The tides have turned, and if they turn back when we all die, or some day in the future, I rest assured that you will get your turn to suffer at the hands of an uncaring, unflinging machine that is called the majority."

So, back to the days primitive Christianity in other words? And advocating a reversion to phallus worshipping religions? What progress.

Any time you talk about the evils of today's society, you actually are fulfilling (is it Tad's) requirement for making (and fulfilling) predictions. The bible did that ages ago, as many on this thread have probably already shown.

In fact, the bible might suggest that homosexuality is actually a punishment in itself, although there could have been AIDS in Paul's day too.

@ Hadley

If Tad is arguing to lead Jews to defy God's law, then I can assure you that it is not in his people's best interest. I can think of 0 occasions in which this policy has worked out.

Anonymous JRL February 01, 2013 8:15 PM  

Tad - if a person had a grown son who found prepubescent children sexually arousing, do you think it possible that person could both unconditionally love his son and tell him his sexual preference is unhealthy and disordered.

I am not equating homosex and pedophilia. I am interested if you can recognize the principle involved.

Anonymous Godfrey February 01, 2013 8:35 PM  

Keep in mind that homosexuals are simply being used. The wealthy ruling classes want to reduce population levels. That’s the reason the lifestyle is being incessantly promoted.

Anonymous Anonymous February 01, 2013 8:40 PM  

Tad...your kind has won nothing. That's why you are here. You will try to shame people into silance. Then bully into submission. Then prisons, gas chambers and shooting squads. Hence your hard on for gun "control" and gutting the Constitution. The irony is what the State gives, the State can take away. The homos in the SA learned that the hard way in the Night of Long Knives, for example...

Anonymous Godfrey February 01, 2013 8:53 PM  

The ruling classes use those with psychological disorders for their own ends. We’re all manipulated.

Anonymous Unending Improvement February 01, 2013 9:24 PM  

Jon Ryan has a small head. Explains a lot.

Anonymous Godfrey February 01, 2013 9:25 PM  

Scott February 01, 2013 12:02 PM "My contempt for gays when I was 21 was 0 but it increases every year as the gay lobby becomes bigger and bigger bullies..."

You note an interesting phenomenon. I’ve observed many people beginning to feel the same way. I always try to remember that homosexuals are just dupes for the most part. They’re psychosis is promoted among the masses for a reason.

Try to see them with sympathy. These are people with psychological issues that trace back to childhood. The disorder can usually be traced to a failure to bond with the same-gender parent during a critical period during adolescence. This failure can result in gender identity confusion and sustained sexual immaturity.

Naturally the misanthropic ruling classes take full advantage of these psychological disorders, among others, for their own ends.

Anonymous Gx1080 February 01, 2013 9:31 PM  

I don't think that Tad's people are the Jews.

There are tribes born of ideology that adapt to the cold facts of biology by adopting an implicit caste system. Leftists usually do that.

Also, what Godfrey said.

Anonymous The other skeptic February 01, 2013 9:38 PM  

Naturally the misanthropic ruling classes take full advantage of these psychological disorders, among others, for their own ends.

I think you are mistaken about their misanthropy. It is just that the majority are judged unworthy of their care and affection.

It is our duty to dispatch them before they dispatch us.

Blogger James Dixon February 01, 2013 9:41 PM  

> Great, we all agree that until the end of times, when judgement happens, you have lost.

Nope. We agree that we've lost in this place until it collapses.

> We can now start negotiating the terms of surrender.

My terms of surrender are simple: You'll have to kill me. To all appearances, you have no problems with doing so.

> Otherwise you will be excluded from polite society,

I've never even been allowed in your "polite society", so why should I care?

> ...and we may put you in jail.

Be my guest. I'd rather be with honest criminals than with people with those attitudes anyway. And you'll only do that if you're too cowardly to kill me.

> You've lost when you can't even say whats literally true.

We've all lost when you can't even say what's true. A society which cannot face the truth is not long for this world. But then, that's something you wouldn't know.

> ...there will be some holds, but when you die, your kids will replace you,

I don't have any kids to worry about. And when I die, I honestly do not care what type of hellhole you make of the place.

> ,,,but before you die, you will be grinding your teeth.

Nope.

> You will be angry that your beliefs making you socially unacceptable.

I've never been "socially acceptable". Again, why should I care?

Anonymous Shutup, Tad February 01, 2013 9:48 PM  

What did Tad and "his people" win?

Why, they won the right to be reviled for the substance of their character, rather than their perversions.

Its a win/win.

Tad is not tedious and obtuse because he is homosexual, he is tedious and obtuse because he is Tad.

I for one welcome the new paradigm.

So shut up, Tad.

Anonymous Obadiah 1:18 February 01, 2013 10:09 PM  

Homosexuality is rejected by God and by nature. The homosexual act cannot produce children. Homosexuality also disproves the theory of evolution, for if the practice of homosexuality is as old as mankind itself, then why haven't homos evolved so that they can produce children?

Anonymous Scintan February 01, 2013 10:23 PM  

Heh. Ooookay.

None of that changes an employers right to discipline an employee in that situation. Since you can't come up with a counter-argument, I think we can close the book on this.


Since you're arguing a point I never addressed and acting as if you've won some victory, I'll just assume you realized that your original post was moronic and decided not to defend it.

Anonymous The other skeptic February 01, 2013 10:30 PM  

Homosexuality also disproves the theory of evolution, for if the practice of homosexuality is as old as mankind itself, then why haven't homos evolved so that they can produce children?

Well, there is no reliable evidence that homosexuality is as old as humanity. There is some reliable evidence that it is as old as agriculture.

You also appear to be unaware that about 10% of rams are obligate homosexuals. That is they only ever show any interest in other rams and have no interest in ewes. The interesting thing is that the brains of homosexual rams differ from the brains of heterosexual rams in well defined ways.

There are good reasons to think that male homosexuality in humans is caused by a virus that attacks the brains of males at some stage before puberty. Perhaps that virus is transmitted from other humans who already have the virus, and it could be through perfectly innocuous behavior (ie, not by pedophile activity from homosexual males.)

When we figure out which virus it is, we can perhaps develop vaccines for mothers and young males.

Anonymous Godfrey February 01, 2013 10:44 PM  

@The other skeptic February 01, 2013 9:38 PM "...I think you are mistaken about their misanthropy. It is just that the majority are judged unworthy of their care and affection."


Don't underestimate their hatred of humanity. They relentlessly promote homosexuality for a reason. For the same reason they relentlessly promoted contraception, abortion and "feminism" in the past.

The wealthy ruling classes want fewer of us inhabiting "their" planet.

Blogger Jack Morrow February 01, 2013 10:45 PM  

As his former teammate mentioned, Mr. Ryan is a Canadian, and one who isn't old enough to remember life prior to the introduction of the Orwellian-named Charter of Rights and Freedoms in 1982. A few of us at the time said that the only people who would end up having any rights would be criminals, perverts, deadbeats, and malcontents; everythnig that's happened since then has confirmed that. Those of us who are Christians in Trudeaupia are part of a shrinking, increasingly despised minority out of touch with "Canadian values." Those "values" seem to consist of 1) abortion on demand; 2) the entire radical sodomite agenda; 3) starting unnecessary wars of aggression in countries on the other side of the world in which we have no interests so that they will become democracies and adopt values 1 and 2.

Anonymous Godfrey February 01, 2013 10:50 PM  

... hmmm, sounds to me like those so called "values" all have one thing in common, the rejection of life.

Anonymous kh123 February 01, 2013 11:06 PM  

"Homosexuality also disproves the theory of evolution,"

Not necessarily. I can hear the ghost of Stephen Jay Gould - departed from both his physical body and the womb of PC academia which suckled and shielded him - saying something to the effect that the history of life is a panoply of blind failed experiments, developmental dead ends, and extinction on stages from the greatest to the least.

In the grand scheme of things (yes, even punctuated equilibristas like Gould spoke of grand brushstrokes to life's narrative), the estimated span of human history from the agricultural phase up to now is nothing more than the blink of an eye evolutionarily speaking; and that any failed or dead end path that an organism takes - and we can conclude that reduced to nil fecundity qualifies - would usually take more than a moment to come to full fruition.

Consider the SWPL and faggotry to be the two premier forerunners to have an especial slot preserved for them in the next Burgess Shale dustbin of history.

Anonymous The other skeptic February 01, 2013 11:20 PM  

"Homosexuality also disproves the theory of evolution,"

Not necessarily. I can hear the ghost of Stephen Jay Gould - departed from both his physical body and the womb of PC academia which suckled and shielded him - saying something to the effect that the history of life is a panoply of blind failed experiments, developmental dead ends, and extinction on stages from the greatest to the least.


Gould was a wanker.

While evolution might or might not be correct, the existence of homosexuality is no test given that there is credible evidence that homosexuality dates from the beginnings of agriculture ... and quite possibly selection has selected for resistance to the virus that causes it.

Anonymous Rip February 01, 2013 11:40 PM  

I never drink the stuff. Fish fuck in it.

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