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Friday, February 01, 2013

The Ripped Life

An old friend of mine has launched a new business that should be of some interest to the Paleo advocates out there, particularly Supernaut.  It's called PaleoLife Foods and he describes it as "an ultra-premium, natural nutritional foods company that was founded on the core, Paleo/Primal Diet-inspired belief that the foods we put into our bodies should be nothing but the truly highest-quality, freshest, REAL whole foods as close to nature as possible -- and made up of ingredients that we, as humans, not only evolved on for millennia but THRIVED on."
PaleoLife has a new bar out that is available on Amazon and has gotten very good reviews.  I haven't tried it myself, since my box hasn't arrived yet, but as my friend is an aesthete of the highest order, I'd be very surprised if it was unpalatable.  If you're already eating Paleo or are flirting with the idea, you might want to check out their Primal Cocoanut.

Speaking of the Ripped Life, I've finally been able to get back onto my 5x/week routine now that the calcio season and the holidays are over.  I've learned to take it a little easier, stop when I feel something, and protect my joints a bit, which appears to have helped in avoiding all the niggling little injuries to which I am prone given my distaste for changing my routine.  A minor bicep issue means I still can't comfortably do pull-ups behind the head, which is frustrating, but the gym has a nice free-weighted rowing machine that, in combination with chin-ups, serves as an adequate substitute for the time being.

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Anonymous ODG February 01, 2013 9:10 AM  

"Thrived on"? I'm not sure what side of the wheat issue I fall on yet, but I'm pretty sure the human population didn't take off until after agriculture developed.

But I love most things that come in bar form, so these would be worth a try.

Anonymous AJ February 01, 2013 9:16 AM  

@ODG That is true... but the wheat we are provided today in the majority of our food is a whole different beast than what out ancestors ate. Thank industrial agriculture for that.

Anonymous Edjamacator February 01, 2013 9:17 AM  

I've been starting the Maker's Diet, so I'm always looking for foods I can eat that are acceptable on that one. I don't go so much for the whole "caveman" idea of Paleo, but rather the "God picking out the diet" idea as OT Jews wouldn't have known what foods were necessarily good and bad. The "unclean" meats, according to the book for example, are the ones that are actually bad for you while "clean" animals are good. Kind of answered a question I had about why God would consider any animal he created "unclean." Turns out He was using clean/unclean as a diet guide. I've noticed a difference since I've been on it, but it's hard to do even close to 100% and that's because of all the processed crap.

I've given up cow's "dead milk" and like coconut milk better. I'll have to look at these bars and see how closely they align with the Maker's Diet. Thanks for the info.

Blogger SarahsDaughter February 01, 2013 9:26 AM  

Oh how awesome, they're gluten free! Sold. It is very difficult to find gf bars that don't taste like crap.


Edjamacator...no bacon? :(

Anonymous rycamor February 01, 2013 9:35 AM  

Labels: evolution, sports

Hehehe... here we go...

Anonymous Ridip February 01, 2013 9:38 AM  

OGD

I never understood the wheat thing until recently. The interesting thing about modern wheat and barley(?) is that it contains 3x the gluten of traditional wheat. That's at least enough to give me cause for concern. And coming from Monsanto's HQ town I won't touch corn, soy or anything those bastards may have affected.

Anonymous Barko Ramius February 01, 2013 9:43 AM  

Dude, you cant outlift time. Just sit back and write, drink wine, and maybe jog every now and then.

Anonymous rycamor February 01, 2013 9:48 AM  

@Barko,

Jack LaLanne did a full workout every day of his life up until the day before he died, age 96.

Not a bad way to go.

Anonymous rycamor February 01, 2013 9:53 AM  

While these PaleoLife bars look delicious, they are freaking *expensive*--even more so than Mercola's Cocoa-Cassava bars. I suppose it will take awhile for economies of scale to bring down the price of these types of things.

I love snack bars full of nuts and the like, but I have had to forego them pretty much completely because either they are way too expensive, or they are full of HFCS, Soy and other garbage.

I have had to content myself instead with growing and buying my own ingredients and mixing them in a serious protein shake once a day: fresh raw eggs, right from my barn, cottage cheese, fresh goat milk if our goat is delivering enough, fresh coconut meat if in season, fresh avocado, some moringa leaf from one of my trees (Google it), some ground up nuts, and some frozen fruit (preferably from my own garden). Serious energy. I can go all day on one of those, even with hard outdoor labor. Then I eat a heavy meal in the evening.

Blogger TontoBubbaGoldstein February 01, 2013 9:56 AM  

Seems like I read *somewhere* recently that a quart of scotch(daily) and 5 packs of cigarettes (daily) and a sports bar diet will get you well into your 80s.

Anonymous Roundtine February 01, 2013 10:03 AM  

Give me some bacon-wrapped gluten, with some growth hormones in my milk on the side.

I work on cutting out sugars, reduce the carbs, but I think the health obsession stuff is excessive. If you eat healthy and exercise, very strict diet control is going to have marginal impact on overall health. 90-95% is exercise and eating "healthy" without worrying about pesticides or anything like that.

Anonymous mjb February 01, 2013 10:06 AM  

Roundtine, I simply cut out most carbs and sugars, with very little exercise, and lost 50 pounds, and it has stayed off for over a year now. Diet is the largest contributing factor to being fat. I see rotund folks jogging their hearts out, they don't really lose much until they change their eating habits.

Anonymous Josh February 01, 2013 10:07 AM  

Mmmm, bacon...

Anonymous Josh February 01, 2013 10:11 AM  

Yeah, this paleo thing works. The only problem is, if you haven't had anything with gluten in it fur a while, and then eat something with gluten, your digestive system will hate you. Which is good, I suppose, as it helps you not to want to eat that stuff.

Anonymous rycamor February 01, 2013 10:11 AM  

Roundtine, it's all a question of degree. I too get sick of those people that act like there is a platonic category of right eating with no overlapping sets. But still as much as one can practically get free from the modern industrial food chain, I suspect that person will live that much a healthier life, with that much less need for pharmaceuticals and other health interventions. It truly is disgusting what has happened to our food staples over the past century.

Blogger Survival Gardener, AKA David the Good February 01, 2013 10:13 AM  

"Diet is the largest contributing factor to being fat."

I totally agree. When I cut out grains, I dropped at least 15 lbs in about a month. Been holding even at 162 for almost two years now. My normal frame is lean... I just got back to where I should've been. When I work out, I gain muscle rapidly. An ideal weight would probably be about 175, with muscle, but I look fine at 162. Heh.

Exercise never helped me lose weight, but it did make me look good, provided I started lean.

Now, like rycamor, I grow a lot of my own food. Ditto on the raw egg smoothies. Liquid power.

Anonymous mrl February 01, 2013 10:14 AM  

Finally someone gets that Agave is bad! By the way if you want to know why our modern wheat is so bad go to:http://www.wheatbellyblog.com/ (sorry I have no clue how to make this link go straight to the site)

Blogger Survival Gardener, AKA David the Good February 01, 2013 10:15 AM  

"The only problem is, if you haven't had anything with gluten in it fur a while, and then eat something with gluten, your digestive system will hate you."

Yeah. That's true. I can barely eat stuff with wheat in it anymore. The heartburn, etc., is amazing.

It's like when I quit drinking soda at about age 18. When I tried drinking it again a few years later, it made me feel awful. It's a life-long divorce.

Anonymous Kickass February 01, 2013 10:17 AM  

I will check this out, thanks for this. We are getting our health in order and a quick, healthy treat is something I am looking for.

By the way, I have some injuries that cause me joint pain as well. I started adding cinnamon, tumeric, ginger and coconut oil to my smoothies and I just went through a situation that should have brought a massive flare up and it didn't. You don't taste them, just small amounts daily seem to help. Great for other types of inflamation as well.

Last, arnica gel is incredible for both new and old injuries. I cannot give it enough praise.

God's pharmacy is amazing.

Anonymous Mina February 01, 2013 10:17 AM  

Rows suck. We don't have a TBar in the basement so I can only do barbell rows. I dread it every week. Great for the upper body though.

I haven't done anything special with my diet since it was good before I started training again a year ago. It's probably time to clean it up.

This paleo thing looks like a lot of work. Jury's out around here so far on what to do about food. We live in farm country so buying a 1/2 a steer is probably on the docket for spring and we're looking into chickens too. Doubt we'll eat them; probably just the eggs.

Anonymous Kickass February 01, 2013 10:24 AM  

@ Edjamacater Have you ever seen a pig in its native habitat in a third world country? I am not talking wild jungle boars, I am talking pigs. They will swim in the sewage, eat crap, eat dead people. That is why they are unclean. That is why they are unclean. They, along with a bunch of other animals, eat dead people and things. Not something to be eaten unless survival is at stake.

I got that right away, but others I have known got angry at God for this. They are big bacon fans though. I admit, I eat it now and then and just turn off my mind.

Anonymous mjb February 01, 2013 10:25 AM  

Wimps, I'm doing head stand pushups. Well, I'm working on doing the headstands, since I got fat in my 20s, I lost the ability to do the headstand pushups. Coming back, now that I'm back to a healthy weight.

Anonymous mjb February 01, 2013 10:25 AM  

*Handstand

Anonymous Josh February 01, 2013 10:28 AM  

I honesty think there isn't an easy way to ease into the paleo thing. You have to just do it, and stop eating grains and sugars. I've found that it's easier for me as a more or less hard and fast rule. Remember, you're only one donut from falling off the wagon...

Anonymous Josh February 01, 2013 10:30 AM  

This paleo thing looks like a lot of work. 

It can be at first, but the way I look at it is, just replace the bread and pasta in your diet with meats and veggies.

Anonymous Barko Ramius February 01, 2013 10:31 AM  

rycamor: "Jack LaLanne did a full workout every day of his life up until the day before he died, age 96.

Not a bad way to go."

That's alot of wasted drinking time. Did he have a job?

Anonymous Steveo February 01, 2013 10:34 AM  

Been on the Primal Blueprint by Mark Sisson & have experienced the most remarkable physical rejuvenation I could have imagined. Lost 45lbs (in 4 months) & am now under 200 lbs for the first time in over 3 decades. Huge energy, no fatigue, am eating all I want when I want as long as it's plants or animals (no grains, no cereals, no breads, starches, legumes, sugars). Loving the tons of meat, snarl, fat, butter... Check it out.

Anonymous Curlytop February 01, 2013 10:35 AM  

Oh I'll definitely give this a try. My body chemistry demands that I have protein in the morning for breakfast, but more days than not, whipping up an omelette just isn't going to happen and get the crew going w school, chores, etc. Reputable snack bars are hard to find nutritionally and with taste appeal. Thanks for the recommendation.

Anonymous rycamor February 01, 2013 10:36 AM  

Kickass February 01, 2013 10:17 AM

I started adding cinnamon, tumeric, ginger and coconut oil to my smoothies


Yes, forgot to mention, those the the other ingredients I use. Also, if you have fresh eggs (from a trusted source such as your own or a friend's chickens), you can pull out the eggshell membrane and add it to your smoothie. Very good for the joints. I'm 47 and my joints feel better now than they have since my 20s.

Anonymous mjb February 01, 2013 10:36 AM  

I think it is interesting that so many libertarians I know have embraced the primal/paleo/keto way. Probably because we're so skeptical about the government, that even their supposed healthy diet plans aren't to be trusted.

Anonymous jay c February 01, 2013 10:37 AM  

Vox wrote, I've learned to take it a little easier, stop when I feel something, and protect my joints a bit, which appears to have helped in avoiding all the niggling little injuries to which I am prone given my distaste for changing my routine.

Absolutely. I think we're the same age, give or take a year or 2. Lately it seems like every time I really start pushing I injure myself. A slipped rib a few years ago, then another slipped rib, then a hernia, then a shoulder injury... Now that I'm eating healthier, I'm building muscle faster than ever, but I can't lift nearly as much as I want to or am capable of. If I do, I'll probably have to take a few months off to recover.

Anonymous Tallen February 01, 2013 10:41 AM  

I think the human body is adaptable enough to thrive on many different diets. Therefore, I raise a slice of pizza to the Michael Phelps Diet.

Anonymous Vidad February 01, 2013 10:43 AM  

This is off-topic, but dear sweet buttered churchianity on a stick... I am suffering.

I'm sitting here listening to a segment from a xian broadcast I consult for. The man is talking about how he's the biggest servant in the world to his wife and how that makes a powerful marriage... 'cause it's being jes' like Jesus! "It's not about changing your wife... it's about serving her!"

I want to kill something. Anything.

Anonymous Edjamacator February 01, 2013 10:44 AM  

@SarahsDaughter

Nope, no bacon. It's a shame but it's still bad for you. Personally, I've not missed it because I just eat allowed meats. I also don't ban things totally, but may have a small portion because if my body is improved it can handle it the one time in a great while I have it.

The main thing for me is cutting out the hormones, antibiotics, and processed stuff. I eat bread that is sprouted grains which is apparently Biblically based and from that noticed a digestive difference immediately. I'm not able to do 100% but figure that the more crud I cut out the easier it will be on my body as far as processing everything else. And by sticking as well as I can to foods God said to eat, I don't concern myself with cholesterol, fats, etc. I'll still check levels out just to see for myself, but I'm pretty sure if God was using OT rules where food is concerned to guide the Jews into a good, healthy diet, I can trust that he knew/knows about all of it. I just wish it were easier to find foods that are "in the book" so to speak.

Anonymous Edjamacator February 01, 2013 10:44 AM  

I want to kill something. Anything.

Where's Tad?

Anonymous Vidad February 01, 2013 10:45 AM  

"Probably because we're so skeptical about the government, that even their supposed healthy diet plans aren't to be trusted."

I've found that doing the opposite of government recommendations is usually a good way to go.

Eat fat. Get some sun. Buy gold. Smoke cigars.

Anonymous mjb February 01, 2013 10:45 AM  

Tallen, do you work out 6-8 hours a day?

Anonymous The Gray Man February 01, 2013 10:47 AM  

Working out 5x a week feels so good but is hard to fit into a busy schedule.

But I am going to get back on it.

More gym posts around here, please!

Anonymous rycamor February 01, 2013 10:49 AM  

Yeah, guys like Michael Phelps will burn out early on a diet like that. When you're young, you can get away with that sort of thing for awhile, but eventually the diet debt must be paid. Actually, the workout debt too. 6-8 hours a day is generally beyond the healthy range.

Of course, top athletes are rarely in it for their lifelong health. I seem to remember reading a study showing that many of them would gladly take a drug that would kill them in 5 years if it guaranteed them an immediate edge for victory.

Anonymous Daniel February 01, 2013 10:50 AM  

Vidad,

I'm pretty sure that the local medical school will pay you to take part in invasive, drug free colonoscopy research. Couldn't you have picked that instead?

You have my prayer, sympathy and hope that your release from bondage comes swiftly.

Anonymous Lex Rex February 01, 2013 10:51 AM  

No grains, no pain!

Honestly, if you can just cut grains and go low to moderate on dairy your a 1 percenter in America.

Anonymous Tallen February 01, 2013 10:52 AM  

mjb, I did not too long ago, and ate like it too. Now that I don't spend as much time working out, I have scaled back the amount of food I eat appropriately.

Blogger SarahsDaughter February 01, 2013 10:56 AM  

A young guy at the gym I go to has been on a 4 week church diet that includes no meat. (It's because of this guy and the motherly nature I have at the gym that I'm thinking of making up little cards with VP, AG, and CH web addresses to hand out to the poor dears). Anyway, he announced to us all how he's been drinking his soy protein shakes like crazy to make up for not eating meat.

Yeah, you know the response he got.

Anonymous Edjamacator February 01, 2013 10:57 AM  

Ok, speaking of working out. I'm 41 and am not too overweight. I have a Bowflex I want to use but I have been seeing conflicting info. I want to lose weight and am more interested in toning and strength than bulking off and having to buy a new size of shirt. If you would be so kind, where does the ilk think I should start?

Anonymous Edjamacator February 01, 2013 10:59 AM  

Honestly, if you can just cut grains and go low to moderate on dairy your a 1 percenter in America.

Maker's Diet says bread is fine as long as the grains are sprouted. I ditched processed whole wheat bread and switched and saw a (good) difference in a couple of days. Pasta's out of course, but bread made in OT style doesn't bother me at all, and I actually like it a lot more.

Anonymous patrick kelly February 01, 2013 11:00 AM  

OT:

Finally some confirmation of firearms found at the scene:
EvidenceInventory

However, interesting quote from LEO interviews :

" You could tell it was rifle fire. And it was up so close it sounded like it was coming from outside. So we were all looking around for someone to shoot back at.''

And still no more mention of the guy chased into the woods yelling "I didn't do it". Who was he, what was he doing there? Why was he released?

EyeWitnessAccounts

Oh, and mmmmmmmmmmmm...... bacon...... mmmmmmmmmmm.........

Anonymous Mina February 01, 2013 11:00 AM  

Found this on FB this morning ... Trying to figure out if this gal is for real with the squatting - anyone ever heard of her? She's a Brazilian model and seems to be well known for her shapely ass.

Great form on the squat but from my understanding it looks like the bar should be be lower on the back. But look at what she's squatting - so what do I know?

That does seem to be only exercise where she shows good form - wasn't impressed with the rest of the video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=twPW3Wa3SPw

Blogger Positive Dennis February 01, 2013 11:01 AM  

Looks interesting, but a little too high in carbs for me. I think I will stick with quest bars. Ed, buy the book the power of ten. It suggest one workout a week that is intense, but sure to work your way up to it. I plan to start this soon, so I have no personal experience with it.

Anonymous rycamor February 01, 2013 11:02 AM  

I am convinced that the problems we have with food are much more than just categorial (I.E. grains or no grains, dairy or no, etc...). It's more a question of the quality of each and the way it is prepared.

Take milk, for example. A hundred years ago, milk had to be fresh, *because* it was unpasteurized, or it had to be cultured into cheese, butter, yoghurt or something, and it came from a cow that ate grass, clover and other bovine delectables and wandered around on a pasture, not shackled in a 2X4' enclosure, standing in it's own feces and practically force-fed grain all day. There is a huge difference in the quality.

Or grain. The wheat most of us eat now comes from a modern (very forced) hybrid that is completely different from what most of the ancients ate, and it was milled months ago and has been sitting on a shelf, devoid of most core grain nutrients all that time. What the ancients tended to do was soak or sprout the grain, mill it, and then immediately make something to eat with it. All nutrition captured and put to use.

The same sort of story plays out with meat, vegetables, fruit, etc... The things we do for convenience, standardization, and profits now greatly reduce the quality of what is actually delivered to the body. Sometimes I get the sense that our food supply is headed toward the same sort of problem our banking-driven economy is, and for many of the same reasons.

Anonymous Roundtine February 01, 2013 11:05 AM  

Rycamor, I agree. I'm not in a position to raise chickens or have a garden in Beijing (I finally broke down and bought an air purifier, something I'd never own in the States), but I will when I move back. The biggest thing, as someone said above, is thinking about what you eat. Once you start making conscious decisions about replacing grains with meats or nuts, you make different decisions. It starts small and you build better habits. I think in terms of substitution, and for me it's the easiest way to lose weight or change habits. Your body gives you positive feedback by getting leaner and adding muscle (if you workout) and then you hit the glide path.

I also give up all meat except for fish during Lent (plus sugar, alcohol, etc.), and unless I break down and chow some grains, I'm usually often feeling hungry. The first time I did a very strict Lent, my diet was permanently changed. I had to constantly think of what I could eat, given the restrictions., and I relied more on nuts, vegetables, dairy and that helped me transition to more paleo afterwards. And of course there's the main reason of getting closer to the Lord. I admit I sort of did the fasting as a challenge and a health change at first, but then it had a religious impact.

Anonymous Anonymous February 01, 2013 11:05 AM  

VD
As a 66 year old and health club member
for 49 years, this April, I to have tell
you times ahead are grim on the workout
scene. Joined the old Sports and Health
at Apache Plaza, now defunct. Switched
to US Swim then Ballys, all gone, and now
Lifetime Fitness. Have seen it all to a
degree. Around mid 50's your ligaments and
tendons start to refuse to heal or recover.
You become constantly sore and uncomfortable
from all the years of those little nagging
injuries. My workouts now are walking and
swimming. Pull paddles and small fins are
the resistance with a heavy dose of hot tub
steam room and pre and post stretching. There
is a reason you wont find many if any people over
60 in the weight room. Hope this does not deter
anyone from the joy and rush of working out
no matter the regime. Just the reality. Time
to hit the pool!

Anonymous Vidad February 01, 2013 11:08 AM  

Daniel: "You have my prayer, sympathy and hope that your release from bondage comes swiftly."

Thanks. And hopefully it's not the release of death.

I was actually just invited to start blogging on my survival gardening projects at Mother Earth News... that may turn into something worthwhile. That starts this week and I hope it drives traffic to my own site, which in turn sets me up to sell the book I'm writing. I'd much rather write on growing food and slaughtering meat than have to live in the world of fake crap that is Christian radio.

Anonymous Mina February 01, 2013 11:09 AM  

rycamor February 01, 2013 11:02 AM:

A lot of good reasons to look forward to the decline.

Hopefully a lot of what you listed will fall to the wayside when fossil fuels are more expensive and harder to come by, or the dollar is so destroyed no one wants to send it to us any more.

Food, Inc., King Corn and SuperSize Me - great food documentaries.

Anonymous Vidad February 01, 2013 11:10 AM  

Roundtine: "when I move back"

Wait - you got out of the States - and you're coming back voluntarily?

Anonymous rycamor February 01, 2013 11:10 AM  

Edjamacator February 01, 2013 10:57 AM

Ok, speaking of working out. I'm 41 and am not too overweight. I have a Bowflex I want to use but I have been seeing conflicting info. I want to lose weight and am more interested in toning and strength than bulking off and having to buy a new size of shirt. If you would be so kind, where does the ilk think I should start?


Nothing wrong with bowflex, but I think it is pretty much unnecessary. Get a few second-hand dumbbells, and learn the basics, and do lots of good calisthenics. Google "interval training" and "peak 8". Also, the free Youtube videos by Athlean X (Jeff Cavaliere) have lots of good tips for dumbbell workouts and other basics. Cavaliere also has lots of good tips for stuff to avoid to protect your joints.

Anonymous Mina February 01, 2013 11:13 AM  

rycamor February 01, 2013 11:10 AM &
Edjamacator February 01, 2013 10:57 AM:

Barbell training. The best, most efficient, most productive form of strength training - according to Mark Rippetoe.

Starting Strength (buy the book!)

Anonymous CaptDMO February 01, 2013 11:14 AM  

"...-- and made up of ingredients that we, as humans, not only evolved on for millennia but THRIVED on."

Sure, just as soon as Obamacare provides "access" to
"recent university" funding to genetically restart my appendix.

" Edjamacator February 01, 2013 9:17 AM
I've given up cow's "dead milk" and like coconut milk better."

There's no such thing as coconut "milk".
Just as there's no such thing as coconut "water".
(which I find palatable enough to gamble on it's alleged "new" found benifits)

It's coconut JUICE. Hat tip- CK Black.

" The Gray Man February 01, 2013 10:47 AM Working out 5x a week feels so good but is hard to fit into a busy schedule. ...
More gym posts around here, please!"

How about more "Demanding physical work/home economics of a self-sustaining, "subsidy"-free farm instead?


Anonymous Vidad February 01, 2013 11:17 AM  

Another guest:

"I'm smart enough to know I married way out of my league... if I did something stupid, Jeanne would be fine..."

Yes, women love kiss-ups!

Anonymous Koanic February 01, 2013 11:18 AM  

Sublingual Deer Antler Velvet for nagging injuries and aches and page of middle / old age. Also, cissus, turmeric, collagen. condroitin, glutamate, Tongkat Ali.

Anonymous Vidad February 01, 2013 11:19 AM  

Koanic - are you just making stuff up now?

Anonymous mjb February 01, 2013 11:22 AM  

Mina,

Fossil fuels aren't going anywhere. We are the next Saudi Arabia, so the party is going to continue for the foreseeable future.

Anonymous Lex Rex February 01, 2013 11:23 AM  

Deer Antler Spray! It is all the rage, just ask Ray Lewis.

Blogger SarahsDaughter February 01, 2013 11:28 AM  

Mina,
You might want to watch Fat Head.

Anonymous Josh February 01, 2013 11:29 AM  

Re: barbells,

I've had lots of success in the past with a very simple 5x5 routine, 3 days a week:

Squats
Bench
Deadlifts
Back rows

Increase the weight as often as you can (aim for every other workout)

Anonymous Vidad February 01, 2013 11:29 AM  

Dammit. Here's another goodie:

"(coming up) [churchian guest] explains that being a real man isn't about the outdoors... sports... or power tools... it's about being dependable."

Because THAT gets your wife all tingly!

I swear... I don't get paid well enough...

Anonymous RC February 01, 2013 11:32 AM  

For those who must have bread, my bride buys whole wheat from Wheat Montana in 25 pound bags at the local grocery. She grinds enough flour for four loaves of bread with her grain mill and thirty minutes later it's in the oven baking into absolutely amazing bread.

I raise about a hundred head a year of grass-fed, all natural, antibiotic-free cattle if anyone in the Midwest is interested in good beef. I harvest them light (about 900 to 1000 pounds) four to five hundred pounds of meat each. Born, raised, processed and picked up in northwest Missouri.

Anonymous RC February 01, 2013 11:34 AM  

"(coming up) [churchian guest] explains that being a real man isn't about the outdoors... sports... or power tools... it's about being dependable." - Vidad

It's getting pretty bad when one has to seek forgiveness for helping churchians teach their flocks.

Anonymous Josh February 01, 2013 11:36 AM  

We're looking at CSA's and buying half a cow from a local grass fed farm.

Anonymous Mina February 01, 2013 11:37 AM  

Josh: I love the 5x5. I've been doing a modified form - adding cardio and some isolation exercises (like preachers on back day, tricep pushdowns on chest day, etc.)

I would add to your basic barbell exercise list: Military press.

since I'm female I took Rippetoe's advice and bought a set of fractional weights to ensure that I can increase the poundages every workout - even a 1/2 pound helps.

I have already passed the point where I am able to add a whole 5lbs to many of my big lifts at this point (except the deadlift.)

Blogger RobertT February 01, 2013 11:37 AM  

They're hiding the nutrition information. That's not good. Most bars are loaded with carbs. Even the protein bars have more carbs than protein. I'm a big fan of Qwest bars. Very low net carbs. Looks like your friend is a crossfitter. If you're really doing crossfit, you can handle some extra carbs.

Anonymous Josh February 01, 2013 11:38 AM  

Dammit. Here's another goodie:"(coming up) [churchian guest] explains that being a real man isn't about the outdoors... sports... or power tools... it's about being dependable."

Because THAT gets your wife all tingly!


In that vein, from a comment from a churchian blog post about men who play video games:

I get so frustrated that this issue is so frequently dumped on the ‘wives’ as an issue we should just learn to deal with, tolerate, and even ‘join in’ with. PA-LEESE!!!! According to recent studies the average “gamer” is now a 30 year old male. I have a few things to say to all these 30 year old gamers, especially if they are married with children. (Like my husband, and I’ve shared these thoughts with him a few times ) “GROW UP.” “The teenage years are gone, your glory days are over! You are missing out on the best years of your life all for the love of a fake game, where you are a fake solider, fake coach, fake athlete, or fake ‘bad guy’. You’re teaching your kids that there is nothing more important that escaping your life and being entertained, all in the name of ‘relaxing’ or ‘unwinding.’ Husbands are not called to “unwind” they are called to be ministers and servants to their wives and children. The ride home from work is their time to ‘unwind.’ Listen to your sports talk then. When you get home, you get to join your wife in taking care of the home and children as a pastor servant

Anonymous Vidad February 01, 2013 11:41 AM  

Grab a brew or six, and sit back and watch this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adbLQjGmrCQ

It will cure you of industrial food forever.

Blogger SarahsDaughter February 01, 2013 11:41 AM  

Josh, Vidad - not helping in keeping the blood pressure down on a post about health.

Anonymous Mina February 01, 2013 11:41 AM  

SarahsDaughter February 01, 2013 11:28 AM:

Thanks for the recommendation. SuperSize me wasn't quite up to the level of other two films, there was a lot of room for manipulation in there.

Mostly hate McDonalds for the negative affect it's had on our food processing.

Anonymous Koanic February 01, 2013 11:44 AM  

Pssh, I'm down with Traditional Chinese Medicine. Ya'll think Deer Antler Velvet is crazy? Try some Cordyceps Sinensis.

Anonymous Daniel February 01, 2013 11:45 AM  

...being dependable.

Oh I don't know. My favorite most utilized tools do not rely on turbine power. I find the sledge, wedge, axe, hatchet, hammer, saw and screwdriver to be very dependable. I'll throw in the ramset, even though it relies on an explosion from a .22 shell as its source of power, I don't think it qualifies as a "power" tool. Would not want to nail my foot to the concrete with it though.

So, is that what the guest is talking about? Giving your cordless drill to your wife so she can hang pictures while the husband goes out to play with blasting caps and hatchets?

Anonymous Stickwick February 01, 2013 11:46 AM  

I'm a sucker for good packaging, and these bars are packaged very attractively.

I convinced a relative to go on paleo, and she's making good progress at losing weight. Prior to this, her efforts at weight loss included lots of frozen dinners from Weight Watchers and Lean Cuisine, because she doesn't like to cook. Almost all of them are loaded with grains, potato, or rice. She commented that if someone came up with paleo frozen dinners, they'd probably sell pretty well, despite the fact that they'd be more expensive.

Anonymous Curlytop February 01, 2013 11:46 AM  

Double or nothing that Churchian harpy mandates HER weekly ME time. And I bet we can assume "hubby" isn't as satisfied as he'd like to be...

Anonymous Vidad February 01, 2013 11:46 AM  

Sheesh, Josh. Where the heck did we ever get the idea that we're supposed to serve our wives? Because Jesus washed his disciples' feet?

The reason that act was exceptional was because it was totally unexpected.

Jesus did that once. Many other times, he insulted and discarded his opponents... whipped the moneychangers... randomly snuck off to the mountains and spent his time hanging out with the guys. He never got married, yet we're supposed to "follow His example" by being cringing little house slaves.

It burns.

Blogger SarahsDaughter February 01, 2013 11:48 AM  

I know, I hate McDonalds too. Hate em so much that...well on road trips, ugh...yeah, I'm just not buying a salad. About four times a year I eat not only the Big Mac and fries, but the frappuchino to go along with it. And, even more disgusting and part of myself I hate, I never miss the annual McRib opportunity. I wouldn't do it if we had a Culvers near by. It's really good we don't have a Culvers near by.

Anonymous Vidad February 01, 2013 11:56 AM  

"I never miss the annual McRib opportunity"

Well, daughter of Eve, that is because you are just replenishing your inherent ribness. Thou art absolved.

Anonymous Josh February 01, 2013 11:56 AM  

We just got a Culvers here. It ain't bad considering it's the creation of bunch of damn Yankees.

Of course, Chick-Fil-A is still the king of the fast food world. Hating fags never tasted so good...

Anonymous Josh February 01, 2013 11:59 AM  

What's really good is a burger sans bun topped with grilled onions, bacon, a fried egg, and a tomato.

Have also thought about mixing hamburger meat with sausage meat and then grilling it.

Anyone done that?

Anonymous Vidad February 01, 2013 12:00 PM  

Curlytop "Double or nothing that Churchian harpy mandates HER weekly ME time. And I bet we can assume "hubby" isn't as satisfied as he'd like to be..."

Probably.

I've got no problem with shooting at men for not stepping up on things they should really be doing. If a guy fails to provide for his wife and kids, he's fair game. If he spends all day polishing his Harley (or his robo-spanker 5000) and never reads a page of the Bible... sure, shoot at him. If he's a puss, kill him with fire. But playing a few games or watching the game? Leave the poor sap alone.

Anonymous Mina February 01, 2013 12:02 PM  

Josh February 01, 2013 11:59 AM:

Yes. Add lettuce - and a bunch of jalepenos.
Yes. Very tasty. Add jalepenos.

Jalepenos make everything better.

Anonymous Vidad February 01, 2013 12:03 PM  

"Have also thought about mixing hamburger meat with sausage meat and then grilling it.

Anyone done that?"

Yeah. My wife makes burgers that way sometimes. Really, really good.

Another good trick: she replaced the pasta in lasagna with thinly sliced strips of collard greens... and she replaced the beef with sausage. So basically, it's an awesome greasy pile of mozzarella, sausage, greens and tomato sauce with various spices.

Anonymous yukonyon February 01, 2013 12:04 PM  

I borrowed a video presentation a couple of years ago, which presented scientific research on essential oils. The video didn't endorse any company whatsoever. The only focus was to endorse a pre-modern diet that involved a lot of natural animal fats. But what struck a particular attention was when the professor giving the lecture mentioned a study where certain mammals were deprived of certain nutrients in their diet that humans are depriving themselves of today with the processed foods that they eat. One of the observations noted in the study was that females showed aggression, whereas males became more docile. All I could think, was "malnutrition causes feminism"! I've been searching for the study on Google, but haven't been able to find it, and link it on facebook. Anyone know anything?

Blogger Nate February 01, 2013 12:08 PM  

did anyone else notice that apparently no one in the company photos have ever seen the sun?

FFS people... tan in a can... something. Good lord.

Blogger Nate February 01, 2013 12:09 PM  

"If a guy fails to provide for his wife and kids, he's fair game. If he spends all day polishing his Harley (or his robo-spanker 5000)"

Its moments like these when I realize my blogging life was not a waste.

Anonymous Signe February 01, 2013 12:14 PM  

(Sorry to go OT, but you guys were so kind to pray for me, and I owe you an update. I just got the call.

(BENIGN. Praise God!

(This OT is now concluded, and I am going to go cry and jump around and act like an idiot. I'm wound so tight I don't even. Carry on!)

Blogger SarahsDaughter February 01, 2013 12:25 PM  

That is fantastic news, Signe!

Anonymous VD February 01, 2013 12:27 PM  

Glad to hear it, Signe. Thanks for letting us know.

Anonymous Edjamacator February 01, 2013 12:29 PM  

@Signe

Congrats, good to hear!

@Everyone else, thanks for the training links/books. I'll check them out. Appreciate it!

Anonymous yukonyon February 01, 2013 12:30 PM  

Good to hear Signe, God bless

Anonymous Vidad February 01, 2013 12:31 PM  

"BENIGN. Praise God!"

Awesome. That is great.

It became benign right after you took your first bite of a delicious PaleoLife bar, right?

Anonymous Josh February 01, 2013 12:32 PM  

That's awesome, Signe.

Anonymous Josh February 01, 2013 12:34 PM  

It became benign right after you took your first bite of a delicious PaleoLife bar, right?

No way, dude, it was the bacon that did it

Anonymous Daniel February 01, 2013 12:43 PM  

Great, Signe! Happy to hear it.

Anonymous Roundtine February 01, 2013 12:48 PM  

Wait - you got out of the States - and you're coming back voluntarily?

Well I do know some Chinese military officers that borrow weapons for weekend shooting fun, but it isn't that same if I can't take it home.

Anonymous T14 February 01, 2013 12:48 PM  

Saw "paleo," knew the site would have at least one pic of a chick using a kettleball.

I won't deny it works really well for some people. Though so does intermittent fasting, and I'm not about to try that either.

Anonymous Anonymous February 01, 2013 12:51 PM  

Regarding your injury issues, I can recommend the Egoscue method of physical therapy. It is very much a paleo approach to how we are supposed to move by correcting muscular imbalances that impact on the joints and skeleton. I've been suffering from a tender Achilles tendon for two years and found immediate relief for that as well as persistent lower back pain after half an hour of very easy exercises.

Robard.

Blogger SarahsDaughter February 01, 2013 12:57 PM  

T14 - that'd be "bell" - Kettlebell :)

And thank you to the ones who recommended them from here. I'm not throwing around a pood yet but can turkish-get-up, figure 8, and Russian swing with 40 pounders.

Blogger Nate February 01, 2013 12:57 PM  

"(Sorry to go OT, but you guys were so kind to pray for me, and I owe you an update. I just got the call.

(BENIGN. Praise God!

(This OT is now concluded, and I am going to go cry and jump around and act like an idiot. I'm wound so tight I don't even. Carry on!)"

fist bump.

Blogger SarahsDaughter February 01, 2013 1:02 PM  

I lied, I thought the 70lb was a pood. I'm throwing around more than a pood. I suck at Russian weight units.

Anonymous Anonymous February 01, 2013 1:10 PM  

When I saw "Ripped Life" I thought it was about drinking heavily on a regular basis. And I have gotten my hands on some attractive Russian pood.

- Tanked

Anonymous JartStar February 01, 2013 1:18 PM  

Awesome Signe!

Anonymous patrick kelly February 01, 2013 1:20 PM  

Vox, I'm quite a bit older than you (not quite old as your Dad), and I have found the following to help with the aging related injuries for me:

Yoga/hindu pushups, hold the arch for a bit and look at the ceiling, I do 2 or 3 sets of 15.

Bridging.

Wall walking. (stand about 1 1/2 feet from wall, back to the wall, arch/lean back, plant palms on wall, walk down into bridge position).

Good glucosamine/chondroitin suppliment *every day*. It wasn't until I took it for about 2 weeks that I noticed some otherwise persistent, nagging joint pain and stiffness reduce or just go away.

And good red wine...... and whiskey...........and bacon....lots of bacon....

Anonymous yukonyon February 01, 2013 1:58 PM  

Vox, I am really glad you posted this. This is a discussion we don't normally get here, and I am getting some new ideas. Nutrition has become an important concern in my life lately.

Anonymous Athor Pel February 01, 2013 1:59 PM  

"T14 February 01, 2013 12:48 PM

Saw "paleo," knew the site would have at least one pic of a chick using a kettleball.

I won't deny it works really well for some people. Though so does intermittent fasting, and I'm not about to try that either."




The fasting doesn't even have to be all day, just miss a meal here and there, or just eat one meal that day. Worked for me. Lost 20 pounds without really trying.

Full story goes like this though.

A few years ago I found myself having blood sugar crashes around 11:00am. I mean I was getting nauseous, dizzy, would almost vomit. I was ravenously hungry. I would have to rush to get some food in me, any food, to make it stop. I would liken it to a hypoglycemic episode. Not good.

First thing I did was start eating lunch at 11:00am rather than waiting until 12. I knew it was a short term stop gap and not a real long term solution.

Then I quit eating cereal every morning for breakfast and started eating some kind of protein. Eggs and some kind of pig meat, bacon, mmmmm, sausage, mmmmm. No more blood sugar crashes, no more nausea, no more ravenous hunger. Problem solved.


I was also being woken up in the middle of the night with acid in my esophagus getting pushed there by gas. I'd sit up, belch, swallow some water to move the acid back into my stomach and go back to sleep.

I started eating less at the end of the day and eating it earlier. The problem lessened.

I eventually stopped eating after 5:00pm. So no supper for me. I will drink a big glass of water and eat some nuts when I get home from work at 4:00pm but other than that, nada.

I was also paying attention to what I was eating at all my meals. Figuring out what was causing me to have acid over-production at other times. I made further alterations to my diet. I started cutting out excess carbs. Acid over-production went away. Problem solved.


The things I started doing for other purposes helped me lose weight, the extra weight that annoyed me but I wasn't going to dedicate real effort to deal with the problem. Still felt great to get if off though, once I actually noticed the change.

Anonymous Mina February 01, 2013 2:07 PM  

Athor Pel February 01, 2013 1:59 PM: Agree. I went through pretty much the same sequence. I stop eating at 3pm usually. I might have a piece of toast and an orange 1/2 hour before training but nothing else.

No pasta, very little bread. Lots of protein, salad, fresh fruit/veggie and nuts. A good diet. But as you found, deciding what to eat when is important too.

Blogger James Dixon February 01, 2013 2:09 PM  

> If he spends all day polishing his Harley...

Well, what else is he supposed to do with it. It's not like anyone would ride it or anything.

> BENIGN. Praise God!

Wonderful.

> ...glucosamine/chondroitin suppliment *every day*.

I can verify that this has helped my wife's various joint problems quite a bit. Now, as to what's a good one and what's not, that I'm not competent to judge. We usually deal with Vitamin World or iHerb and get whatever they have.

Anonymous Anonagain February 01, 2013 2:13 PM  

As no one has mentioned the health of the gut, I will. The more I've read about this, the more sense it makes to me. I've run across a series of youtube videos that are rather interesting and informative.

There's a kind of magic that goes on in our bowel that transforms munchable food into useable food. It's done by beneficial bacteria. Apparently, modern life does a number on our natural flora. Without enough of the right kind of bacteria, food is almost indigestible - causing so many of our ills. With the right flora, the body can make good use out of almost everything. As importantly, this bacteria is also essential in removing toxins from our bodies. The buildup of toxins causes diseases.

The introductory videos are in two parts: Why THIS Program Works and Why THIS Program Works Part 2. She has quite a few other youtube videos in this series.

I drink 2 glasses of clay water every day as a daily toxin cleanup routine. It has no bad taste, and almost has a creamy taste. It's easy to do and inexpensive.

Anonymous Baseball Savant February 01, 2013 2:51 PM  

Hey Vox, have you ever done rows on the smith machine? I'm going with a fairly narrow grip and really trying to contract my lats as hard as possible and i'm seeing them completely blow up! Anyway, i thought it was something worth sharing and seeing if you've ever given them a shot. i don't know if you have access to a smith machine.

Anonymous Josh February 01, 2013 3:02 PM  

BS,

Why a Smith machine and not just regular barbell rows?

Anonymous Mina February 01, 2013 3:10 PM  

Smith machine, my understanding a bad choice because it defines your lift parameters and usually into something other than your natural parameters (i.e. it molests the movement and changes your range of motion within the exercise.)

Also it relieves the lifter of the responsibility to balance the barbell - making the lift easier and again, less natural.

A lot of small ancillary muscles come into play in the balancing of the barbell. They won't get worked on a Smith machine.

Anonymous Mina February 01, 2013 3:12 PM  

OTOH a Smith machine used for rows, the way Baseball Savant is using it, is more of an isolation exercise.

Large compound exercises are superior to isolation exercises for building true strength and hence size.

Blogger Doom February 01, 2013 3:51 PM  

I don't know, Vox. I think your friend is sort of on the right track, but he is waving both a doe and a buck flag, which... for the most part... will keep me away. I mean, mostly organic ingredients? That's for metrosexuals and women, or rabbit food. Beside boosting the cost, adding nothing to value, flavor, or nutrition, it is decidedly not a man-thing, definitely not a paleo-man thing, at least to my mind. I know, and you would order wine in a cowboy bar, too. I'm just suggesting that I, don't, and won't, if based on tradition and other things of import to me. If he creates a bar that is simply wholesome, but without the propaganda expense adders, and lowers the cost as well, presumably easily through the savings to his operating expenses thusly, I might bite.

Anonymous AnonH February 01, 2013 4:20 PM  

In general, don't use smith machines.
http://stronglifts.com/smith-machine-squats-power-rack-free-weights/

Here's a Canadian study which showed that free weights were a 43% better workout than smith machines.
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=122144761&page=1

It's not like you need a spotter anyways. Do weighted dips instead of bench presses, when you don't have a spotter. And squat in a cage that has lower limit bars.

Anonymous Mina February 01, 2013 4:29 PM  

The two mostly widely followed experts in the field of building strength and size today agree on the use of Smith Machines: Don't.

That alone should give anyone good reason to stay away from them.

(Rippetoe and Mehdi (Stronglifts 5x5))

... but I am sure if you poked at the Internet hard enough and long enough you could find some outliers who think it's the greatest thing since sliced bread. It's up to you whose data, expertise and experience you want to believe, I guess.

Anonymous Daniel February 01, 2013 4:35 PM  

Doom, organic just means no chemicals used to grow it. The cost is by the dozen, quite comparable to all other bars in its category. Contrary to popular belief, cavemen did not drink RoundUp. [Although I have once on accident. That was stupid.]

Anonymous Anonagain February 01, 2013 4:50 PM  

The most valuable aspect of organic is not what is adds to the thing, but what it doesn't add - chemicals, toxins. The organic label does not impart magical properties to a food, it simply means that one won't be ingesting anything but the food that one expects to be ingesting.

Anonymous Anonymous February 01, 2013 5:28 PM  

Hmm. 5x / wk in my gym rat opinion sounds like it could be a bit much. I've been getting huge for over 30 years now and still going strong, stronger than ever actually, and I attribute some of my recent gains to working out *less*. I'm not sure what your full routine is, so I could be way off, but I've found doing one large and one or two small muscle groups per day, 3-4 days / wk ideal. At least that's my sweet spot. In addition I've found warming up more, a lot more, before going heavy is critical. And, of course, eat generous amounts of bunny meat.

Anonymous T14 February 01, 2013 6:29 PM  

If memory serves, Baseball Savant is a fairly swole guy. If smith is working for him, more power to him. Its the guys doing once-inch squats on the thing that drive me crazy

5 times a week typically is a bit much. I've been doing a 5 day split and I'm not yet sold on it. But I wanted separate quad days and hammie days, so I'm trying it out.

And for those who want to lift but don't have the time...a pretty basic routine will work wonders. Look up Ripeetoe's "Starting Strength" or Wendler's "5/3/1."

Anonymous Noah B. February 01, 2013 6:43 PM  

@PaleoLife

If any of you comment here, I was just curious if you are doing your own food processing and packaging or if you're outsourcing that. If you're doing this yourself I'd be curious to hear about what kind of equipment you're using.

Anonymous rycamor February 01, 2013 7:15 PM  

Anonagain February 01, 2013 4:50 PM

The most valuable aspect of organic is not what is adds to the thing, but what it doesn't add - chemicals, toxins. The organic label does not impart magical properties to a food, it simply means that one won't be ingesting anything but the food that one expects to be ingesting.


The "Organic" label is essentially meaningless now that it has come under the umbrella of government bureaucracy. That's why Joel Salatin refuses to even try to get his food certified organic. He calls his "beyond organic", which is just another way of saying "local food grown right and not stored forever before you eat it."

When it comes to vegetables and fruit, there are varying degrees of quality in non-organic form. Coconuts and avocados are pretty much the same thing whether they are labeled "organic" or not. Tomatoes, on the other hand--world of difference. The conditions they are grown in and bred to by the factory farms makes them tough and flavorless, and way less nutritious. Also, they are picked green and gassed to make them ripen at the desired time, a process that is not dangerous in itself but contributes to the blandness and lack of vitamins. In fact, for most fruits, the process that occurs to make them ready to drop off the tree also make them ideal for consumption, and picking them early takes away a lot of that benefit.

Anonymous Anonagain February 01, 2013 7:55 PM  

When it comes to vegetables and fruit, there are varying degrees of quality in non-organic form. Coconuts and avocados are pretty much the same thing whether they are labeled "organic" or not. Tomatoes, on the other hand--world of difference.

I was going to mention that. It seems just common sense that things with thick skins, rinds, husks, etc. will have less toxins impregnated into the edible portions.

That's too bad to hear about USDA Organic. I've been happy to see more of it at the stores and was hopeful that organic produce would become more mainstream and less expensive.

Blogger The Aardvark February 01, 2013 8:10 PM  

So happy for you, Signe!

Blogger Desert Cat February 01, 2013 10:12 PM  

I'll second the endorsement of arnica for joint and tendon pain, sore muscles and etc. It's amazing.

Speaking of those who can't seem to give up bread, I stumbled upon this a while ago: Paleo Bread -- Coconut 40 calories per slice, 1 gram of carbs per slice. Pricey for bread, but if you must have it, it is at least paleo friendly.

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Anonymous Kickass February 01, 2013 11:01 PM  

God Bless Signe.

Anonymous rycamor February 01, 2013 11:08 PM  

Anonagain February 01, 2013 7:55 PM

That's too bad to hear about USDA Organic. I've been happy to see more of it at the stores and was hopeful that organic produce would become more mainstream and less expensive.


Again, this doesn't mean that any particular organic product is bad, just that you need to verify rather than just trust the label. "Organic free range" chickens can still be fed grains and left to roam on a small concrete floor, as long as there is sky above, etc...

Anonymous Johnny Caustic February 01, 2013 11:38 PM  

"Organic Rice Protein" and "Organic Vegetable Glycerin" don't sound particularly paleo to me. Also, I'd really prefer a higher fat content, but maybe that's just me.

"Thrived on"? I'm not sure what side of the wheat issue I fall on yet, but I'm pretty sure the human population didn't take off until after agriculture developed.

The population took off, and everybody wound up a foot shorter and smaller-boned and developed tooth decay and gum problems and difficulty giving birth. We didn't get the lost foot back until the 20th century. Thriving populations and thriving individuals are virtually opposites.

I want to lose weight and am more interested in toning and strength than bulking off and having to buy a new size of shirt. If you would be so kind, where does the ilk think I should start?

The general theory is: more strength = high weight, few reps; more bulk = moderate weight, more reps. I do the former, and I'm a big fan of Superslow (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Slow, aka Slow Burn) for both better safety (no momentum = no injuries) and faster strength gains.

Blogger LP 999/Eliza February 01, 2013 11:47 PM  

I'll check the paleo bars out for the family. The family has favored a brand called 'manna organics' for breads and grains which doesn't really apply here but its a good product line.

Blogger Ingemar February 02, 2013 1:06 AM  

This kid got pretty big doing just bodyweight exercises:

http://youtu.be/_NqbJA_DEtc

Some of his tips are--

1. If an exercise gets too easy, do a harder version (pullups vs. one arm pullups)
2. Avoid processed foods and sugar. His diet consists mainly of traditional Russian foods.

Oh, and he's also a Christian.

Anonymous Anonymous February 02, 2013 1:21 AM  

I can attest to the fact that these Paleolife bars are freaking AWESOME. Best bar on the market, period. Nothing else comes close, and I have no incentive to say that -- they are just amazing and super healthy. All my CrossFit friends got turned on to them as well. So great to finally have a super premium quality natural bar without the usual crap in it.

Steve

Anonymous lurker February 02, 2013 8:08 AM  

Vox

Fodder for s future post ...

Describe the work out and nutrition regimen you follow.

Blogger Doom February 02, 2013 6:03 PM  

Daniel and Anonagain,

Sorry for the late post, I had almost forgotten this thread. Anywhile... Organic is bunker than bunny people. And if you aren't telling me he couldn't cut costs by pulling that garbage out, then what you are saying is that he would be over-pricing. He would definitely have an edge on price if he went without that junk and kept it clean. Yeah, I know, lots of metrosexuals are really into "organics", but I'm thinking more and more are smartening up, too. Oh, and yeah, add fat. I'm not a rabbit paleo.

I can't believe I am having to debate this here, but... okay. I am still trying to save one woman from this foolishness. She tried to bring me in, but before I bit I did a serious study. And, as the chef of the house, I compared in real life. Pftftftf! Meat, and "non-organic", if you must do vegetables go with the less expensive but freshest.

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Anonymous FUBAR Nation Ben February 02, 2013 10:16 PM  

Be careful on the Paleo diet. You don't want to eat less than 50 grams of carbs a day or you may incur symptoms like feeling cold all the time, being lethargic, smell, etc.

If you work out for an extended period of time, you're going to need carbs.

Anonymous Baseball Savant February 02, 2013 11:31 PM  

Josh February 01, 2013 3:02 PM

BS,

Why a Smith machine and not just regular barbell rows?


Josh, I do regular barbell rows too and if you could only do one then I'd go with the barbell rows obviously. The Smith is obviously a little different in that you aren't using all your ancillary muscles as support for a legendary compound movement.

On a personal front, I think with your lats you really are trying to squeeze them to get a pump and really feel the lats contract. At least for me it's different because unlike chest or bis or tris and even quads, you can't see your back so you are relying on feel. For some reason I can really feel the last firing doing a smith row.

However, i do them later in the back workout and I do barbell rows always first in my routine. this way i'm strongest for a power move and then later with the smith I can really concentrate on firing the lats has hard as i can and getting that pump with as much blood flowing to the lats as I can.

that's just what has been feeling good for me lately so it's why I asked VD about it. my apologies for not seeing your questions sooner. I'm always up for talking about lifting!

Anonymous Baseball Savant February 02, 2013 11:40 PM  

T14 February 01, 2013 6:29 PM

If memory serves, Baseball Savant is a fairly swole guy. If smith is working for him, more power to him. Its the guys doing once-inch squats on the thing that drive me crazy


yes this is true. I'm doing barbell rows at 315lbs for reps. and it's not the Dorian Yates rows where he's almost vertical, but rather the Franco/Arnold barbell rows where the back is almost parallel to the floor.

i'm not in the camp with the above posters who are anti-Smith machine. I think it's an invaluable piece of equipment, but as i've stated earlier I wouldn't substitute a barbell row with a smith row. I'm using the Smith as a move I do once the lats are fatigued to pump as much blood into the lats as I can because I can feel an extreme contraction in the lats and I can force more blood into the area.

It's the same for a bench press or a close grip bench. I do those of course with the regular olympic bar but at the end of a chest/tri workout i can drop set the smith and go nuts and get a massive pump.


Blogger Doom February 02, 2013 11:47 PM  

FUBAR Nation Ben,

Yeah, well, I don't actual do the diet thing. It's just a mostly meat thing, and heavier on meat fats. I definitely get carbs, and even veggies... a bit. I do it from before their was such a diet, because way back, when I was working out at in the early 80's, I first came to nutrition through friends who also worked out. I tried heavier and lighter carbs vs. proteins vs. fats and found that meat heavy was far superior to my goals, shortening needed rests and recovery, and some other things. My goal, if I had to make one, would be about 45-50 prot, 30-35 fat, 20-15 carbs (to include vegetables, must mostly grains). Just so's you know.

I just... mouth off a bit... or... try to shove harder one way than not. Probably too many debates with my last woman type. I did save her from vegetarianism. And even though we ended our engagement, I am still working on her love of "organic". I... think I'm making progress too! She's a good bean, just... Gah!

Anonymous Anonagain February 03, 2013 3:09 PM  

He would definitely have an edge on price if he went without that junk and kept it clean.

So, those who grow with pesticides and chemicals do it because they like spending more money on pesticides and chemicals. But, somehow, they always undersell organics. That's some magical math.

Anonymous Anonagain February 03, 2013 3:15 PM  

I am still working on her love of "organic"

I don't know about this person, but I don't "love" organic. I simply hate chemicals and toxins. It's not rocket science.

Anonymous T14 February 03, 2013 9:22 PM  

Baseball Savant, I'd much appreciate your current routine. Hit me at my fake email tanner.marcus@yahoo.com (sounds rather Amorrian, no?)

Blogger Doom February 04, 2013 4:19 PM  

Anonagain,

Did you read the link I (think) I included? To sum up serious hitters from Burkley and Harvard (or was it Stanford) and 250ish studies: "Organic" allowances, whether it be pesticides or fertilizers, some are worse, first of all, are just as toxic as, what, inorganic?; Most toxins that remain on vegetables and fruits are created BY those plants and fruits!; Next, when a farm is 'certified organic', cross pollination and accidental or intended contamination from adjacent fields does NOT negate the 'certification'. There are other matters, but that is just a start. What don't you understand? Really? Organic is at least as bunk as wormal colding.

Blogger Doom February 04, 2013 4:25 PM  

Well, then you add in that there was no nutritional, or any other value, which "organic" certified fruits or vegetables exhibited over any others, in test after test after test after test after... do I need to go on, go on, go on? Get over it, you are being screwed like a pooch. If you do seem to be enjoying it. I'm starting to wonder what your game is, regarding "organics". Look, if you have money to burn on poetic food, go for it. But... don't try to sell me that genie's lamp.

Anonymous Anonagain February 04, 2013 5:22 PM  

If you do seem to be enjoying it. I'm starting to wonder what your game is, regarding "organics".

You appear to have some emotional attachment to proving me wrong. I, on the other hand, simply understand that putting chemicals and pesticides on things will mean there will be more chemicals and pesticides on those things when I eat them. I never claimed organic produce had more nutritional value, in fact, I made a point to claim they didn't.

You buy whatever you like, as will I. I really don't give two figs.

Blogger Doom February 04, 2013 10:58 PM  

No, not proving you wrong. Merely trying to show that what is called organic uses no safer products to grow them than standard, nor are they any less toxic than standard in any other way. I am simply trying to show you nearly irrefutable data regarding this. I do get impatient. I guess I was hoping you could show me data in the other direction. But you don't seem to have any, just a belief that is based on what my data is and has indicated as false. Yes, frustrated... having a debate where information is being set aside for... misinformed beliefs.

I'm not trying to rob you. I'm trying to help you.

Anonymous Anonagain February 05, 2013 12:40 AM  

Sir, you are no Gandalf.

Anyway, not all produce is created equal. There really are differences, but there are others here who are more qualified than I to explain it. Vidad is probably the best authority on this. I'd like to hear what he has to say about organic vs conventional. I really have no emotional need to buy organic. Good grief, I hate hippies. I just happen to not trust conventional methods of just about everything. Almost everything about our society is rotten.

Blogger Doom February 05, 2013 3:26 PM  

Anonagain,

While I do agree that the world is rotten, this is neither new nor is there a lot to be done about it. Trading one form of rot for another is merely shuffling the deck chairs on the Titanic, proverbially. The only sure way is to grow your own crop, build your own vehicles, produce your own electricity, etc. And, that would be horrendously wasteful, exceedingly dangerous for most, and foolishly prideful if done en mass. No man is, or can be, an island. I could, technically, burn wood for my heat, and to cook with, for example. But what might be good, or even cheaper, for me, would also cause huge problems, especially if everybody did it. Don't like paying more for gas, don't like dealing with companies and the gov, fair enough. But poisoning all of the air to avoid... whatever? (We have month long and longer inversions, where all of that sticks around, locally.)

I guess, pick your fights. It's just that I don't believe this one is a fight that should be picked, or can be one. Corpa on the left Organo on the right, stuck in the middle again. But doing it yourself, which I am beginning to do, comes with huge risks. If I lose my crop to hail, drought, bugs... If my saved seed doesn't crop, if I become ill and am unable to tend the garden... Lots of things could happen, and I will end up paying twice for it. (I am doing it for prepping, and because habaneros are insanely expensive at the stores.) There simply isn't a good, or true, or pure way. It's theoreticians' foolspeak. Then again, I don't live on hundreds of thousands in income. So money actually means something to me.

On this, I would say I am much closer to Gandalf than not. The... foolishness of organic is beyond measure, is so very wasteful in every aspect. I cringe at the notion. It's a form of religion to so many. Further, if the government forces organic farming, as is, that would feed 4.5 billion people, give or take. So... what would the rest eat? Scraps? You know... it's not just about you, or me, or the wallet, either.

Anonymous Anonagain February 07, 2013 2:35 PM  

Organic Foods are Safer and Healthier than Conventional... True or False?

Decide for yourself.

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