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Tuesday, February 26, 2013

The Suicide Party

"Stupid Party" no longer suffices to do justice to the Republican Party and its determined efforts to demographically extinguish itself.  Steve Sailer points to the obvious problem:
 I recently asked if anybody has checked whether Hispanic voters, the majority of whom are of Mexican background, actually like Senator Marco Rubio (R-CUBA).  A reader points me to this December survey by Public Policy Polling of 700 registered voters, showing approval ratings for potential 2016 candidates. Among the 90 or so Hispanic voters surveyed, only 24% were favorable toward Rubio, while 42% said they were were unfavorable.
First, it should be noted that the Great Brown Republican Hope isn't even eligible to be president.  Second, as Sailer notes, Hispanics aren't even favorably inclined towards the guy anyhow.  Third, either Republicans embrace their observable identity as the White party and start running on racial and national policies or they are going to be supplanted by a party who will.

Playing the Hey, We Got One Too game with a Black or Hispanic candidate has never worked for Republicans and there is no reason to believe it is going to work in 2016.  If Republicans wish to pursue the minority vote, there is a much more effective way to go about winning it.  Simply take whatever spending the Democrat proposes and quintuple it every single time.  If Democrats pledge $100 billion for Head Start, pledge $500 billion, with $100 billion earmarked for Black children, $100 billion for Hispanics, and another $100 billion for illegals of all nations.

Seriously.  We all know the Republican Party sold out whatever republican principles it had long ago, so they should just stop pretending and go about nakedly pursuing power in an honest and straightforward manner.

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Anonymous dh February 26, 2013 9:05 AM  

Seriously. We all know the Republican Party sold out whatever republican principles it had long ago, so they should just stop pretending and go about nakedly pursuing power in an honest and straightforward manner.

This is actually a really brilliant insight. There is nothing wrong with being the opposition party. The point of an opposition party is to blunt the damage/impact of whatever policies the majority party is trying to get through. It is a valuable role. Even if the country was functioning perfectly it has a valuable role in moderating, improving, and stabilizing the majority policies.

Anonymous Outlaw X February 26, 2013 9:06 AM  

Vox, this is a lttle OT, but what the heck is sequester in buget language. Are they going to put people in hotels and not let them read the papers or watch TV? Seriously though what is it?

Anonymous Anonymous February 26, 2013 9:07 AM  

"Kaplan cites University of New Mexico Professor Charles Truxillo’s prediction that, by 2080, the states of the American southwest and Mexican north will secede and form a new country of their own—La Republica del Norte."

http://charlessizemore.com/review-the-revenge-of-geography/

Anonymous Anonymous February 26, 2013 9:08 AM  

"There is nothing wrong with being the opposition party."

You forget to add: Unless George W. Bush is president.

Blogger Shimshon February 26, 2013 9:10 AM  

"If Democrats pledge $100 billion for Head Start, pledge $500 billion, with $100 billion earmarked for Black children, $100 billion for Hispanics, and another $100 billion for illegals of all nations."

I remember reading this exact advice by (neocon) David Horowitz back in 2000. Not like anything matters to these people other than power.

However, given how massively the Rethugs increased domestic spending 2001-2009, and were still criticized by the left, you'd think they would have learned by now that you have to adopt the rhetoric as well as the policies to displace the Dems. And not half-assed rhetoric like "Compassionate Conservatism" either.

Anonymous sb- February 26, 2013 9:12 AM  

Wait, when did eligibility requirements become a concern?

Blogger Joe A. February 26, 2013 9:17 AM  

That would be oddly refreshing for the Repubs to take Vox's advice. It seems analogous to pressing down hard on the gas in the midst of a dead-on collision into a concrete wall. Shove what the people want down their throats.

Anonymous NateM February 26, 2013 9:18 AM  

"Not eligible "

Wasn't he born in Miami? As odd as the place is it's still US soil. That makes him a US citizen at birth

Anonymous Godfrey February 26, 2013 9:18 AM  

The Republican establishment isn't working to gain votes. They're working to gain the financial support of the wealthy power elite that really runs things.

Anonymous sb- February 26, 2013 9:23 AM  

"Wasn't he born in Miami? As odd as the place is it's still US soil. That makes him a US citizen at birth"

But not a naturally born citizen as required.

Anonymous Tallen February 26, 2013 9:25 AM  

what the heck is sequester in buget language

This may not fully answer your question but we're looking at something like 20% across-the-board cuts excepting military personnel. This included a furlough for civilian employees through the end of the fiscal year of 1 business day/week (20%), to be instituted on a rolling basis for minimal operational/support impact.

Anonymous NateM February 26, 2013 9:31 AM  

Under Jus Soli given he was born in and subject to the the jurisdiction of the US, he is a citizen. The citizenship of his parents being irrelevant in that case. Some countries such as Australia and the UK modigy that to exclude children of illegal immigrants, but lthe US does not.

Anonymous JartStar February 26, 2013 9:38 AM  

"We Got One Too game" reminds me of contemporary Christian ripoffs of mainstream culture to try to appear relevant but in a safe, Churchianity way like the Power Team rips phone books in half for Jesus because pro wrestling isn't safe for a Christian to associate with. The Churchians congratulate themselves and the culture rightfully laughs.

Anonymous Mike43 February 26, 2013 9:41 AM  

Exactly right, NateM. There's this president called Barack Obama who had one non-citizen parent, and that was never discussed.

Now, about his birth certificate......

Anonymous Josh February 26, 2013 9:43 AM  

But Karl rove said that the natural conservative hispanics would be running over each other to vote for Rubio!

Anonymous Heh February 26, 2013 9:52 AM  

OT: Primitives being primitive again. Why can't we be more like New Guinea?

Villagers chop man to pieces and then burn his body parts to ashes after he was accused of being a witch doctorMan, 50, was attacked in the middle of the night in his hut

'Chopped him with knives and set his house in fire with his remains inside'
Sorcery is rife in the remote regions of jungle-clad Papua New Guinea
By Richard Shears
An accused witch doctor said to have used sorcery to bring about the death of another man in a remote Papua New Guinea village has been chopped into pieces and his body parts burned to ashes.

The gruesome attack on the alleged sorcerer was carried out close to the time when a 20-year-old woman was tortured and burned to death after she was accused of using witchcraft to kill a six-year-old boy.

As news of the recent alleged incidents of sorcery has spread through the jungles of the nation lying to the north of Australia, uneducated villagers have been put on their guard and are watching for other witches or witch doctors, say police.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2284752/Villagers-chop-man-pieces-burn-body-parts-ashes-accused-witch-doctor.html

Anonymous JartStar February 26, 2013 9:55 AM  

Speaking of elections Vox, how's the Italian political scene since the elections? The Euzis appear to be wringing their hands that the Italians voted the wrong way.

Anonymous ThirdMonkey February 26, 2013 9:55 AM  

If there's one thing hispanics hate more than white people, it's other hispanics. In New Mexico, calling someone of hispanic origin "Mexican" was analogous to calling a black person a nigger. There's nothing more odd than hearing someone named Martinez call another brown person a wetback. The old class system is still very much in play in the hispanic culture. We once made the mistake of hiring a Puerto Rican pastor in hopes of reaching out to the hispanic community. Not only did it not work, but we lost over half of our hispanic members because they didn't like that spic.

As far as the Republica Del Norte, they were feeding that crap to us in elementary school in the 80s. It has about as much success as Texas and Massachusetts seceding and forming a new nation. As they will all tell you, New Mexicans, Texicans, and Californios can all trace their heritage directly to Spanish nobility, unlike that pinche Juareno mojado who cuts their grass and still throws toilet paper in the trash instead of the toilet.

Anonymous harry12 February 26, 2013 9:56 AM  

I did notice my neighbor doing some strange things...

Anonymous Noah B. February 26, 2013 9:59 AM  

"First, it should be noted that the Great Brown Republican Hope isn't even eligible to be president."

I don't think anyone's paying attention to the law here anymore.

Anonymous hygate February 26, 2013 10:19 AM  

What ThirdMonkey said.

Also, I find that Cubans are particularly unpopular among "Hispanics" (a made up category created for the sole purpose of combining disparate peoples into a single voting block.)

Cubans are unloved because the ones who fled Cuba when Castro took power were upper-class land and business owners who are opposed to the left-wing redistributionist policies that so many other "Hispanics" support and the ones who where expelled by Castro in the 80s were straight out gangsters and thugs.

Anonymous ThirdMonkey February 26, 2013 10:27 AM  

Cubans are even unloved by other Cubans. I've had one admit to me that they always try to find out if someone is a pre '79 Cuban because the ones that left after 1979 were all the people released from the mental hospitals and prisons.

Viva la Raza, unless you're a darker shade of brown and/or from somewhere else.

Anonymous The other skeptic February 26, 2013 10:32 AM  

When you have a Supreme Court Justice who refuses to use her brain you know you are in trouble.

Anonymous The other skeptic February 26, 2013 10:35 AM  

There's this president called Barack Obama who had one non-citizen parent, and that was never discussed.

It would appear that that issue is moot, but perhaps if he would tell us who his real father was we could put our minds at rest.

Anonymous scoobius dubious February 26, 2013 10:41 AM  

Slightly OT (well, thematically connected in a lateral way) but this is absolutely tragic and sick-making, must be seen to be believed...

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4809890/BOY-thought-to-be-one-of-Britains-youngest-suicides-found-dead-after-months-of-jibes-says-family.html#ixzz2Ln7MIdZN

This is the future of the youth of America, or should I say, the future of American-Americans.

Note the utterly sickening response of the mother: "We are not racist people." That's what she has to say about this. These people have been conditioned more effectively than a damn lab rat. They're going to need to have a civil war, or they are going to cease to exist. What was that bit they used to sing about "Britons never never will be slaves"? Well that went out the window a looong time ago.





Anonymous paradox February 26, 2013 11:04 AM  

...either Republicans embrace their observable identity as the White party and start running on racial and national policies or they are going to be supplanted by a party who will.

American Freedom Party

Anonymous Anonymous February 26, 2013 11:10 AM  

"There's nothing more odd than hearing someone named Martinez call another brown person a wetback. The old class system is still very much in play in the hispanic culture."

I am currently in job related exile in the Rio Grande Valley (Harlingen, TX) and I have noticed this also. The locals cannot stand the Mexicans that flood over the border every weekend from Tamilipas State to go shoppingand clog the roads. The Mexican nationals are very arrogant and pushy. I also have noticed that the darker and shorter you are (more indian) the worse off you are down here. The class system and the Patron system are still in full effect.

I did note with some interest that Sun Country runs three flights a week from MSP to Harlingen during the winter months. Quite a few Minnesotans, Iowans, and cheese heads down here during the winter. The local businesses have to hide the salt shakers and Sweet and Low packets from the retired cheap Swedes during this time.

John in Highland Park (currently in exile for job reasons in South Texas)

Blogger JaimeInTexas February 26, 2013 11:11 AM  

Fidel: Give us back Guantanamo.
uSA: As soon as you return Miami.

There is a reason that professionals from Puerto Rico that move to Florida tend to avoid south Florida.

Anonymous The other skeptic February 26, 2013 11:11 AM  

"Kaplan cites University of New Mexico Professor Charles Truxillo’s prediction that, by 2080, the states of the American southwest and Mexican north will secede and form a new country of their own—La Republica del Norte."

The Revenge of Geography, or, Hopes that Hispanics will do something big


Instead, I off you: The Origins of English Individualism which argues that the key changes in social structure thought to have been wrought by the Industrial Revolution in England were actually present by the thirteenth century.

There is an online paper that presents many of the ideas, but I cannot find it currently, and he has some ebooks that look very interesting as well.

Anonymous DonReynolds February 26, 2013 11:16 AM  

VD..."First, it should be noted that the Great Brown Republican Hope isn't even eligible to be president. Second, as Sailer notes, Hispanics aren't even favorably inclined towards the guy anyhow. Third, either Republicans embrace their observable identity as the White party and start running on racial and national policies or they are going to be supplanted by a party who will."

Fourth, Rubio is another RINO, just like McCain and Romney, and will utterly fail to energize the conservative base of the party. No matter how many Cubans vote for him, he will not get the vote of his own party! Have we seen this before?

VD..."Playing the Hey, We Got One Too game with a Black or Hispanic candidate has never worked for Republicans and there is no reason to believe it is going to work in 2016."

How soon we forget. The ONLY black US Senator to win re-election in American history was a Republican from Massachusetts. He spoke at the graduation, where Hillary Clinton was valedictorian, and she attacked him viciously for his support of the Vietnam conflict. (Not a good way to treat guest speakers.)

Of course, no Republican can spit enough to get the awful taste out of his mouth anytime he thinks about the last black invention of the party....Colin Powell, who apparently went native and heavily endorsed Obama for president TWICE. This is the same black hero that they wanted to run for President of the United States? Yes, how soon we forget.


Anonymous Tallen February 26, 2013 11:19 AM  

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4809890/BOY-thought-to-be-one-of-Britains-youngest-suicides-found-dead-after-months-of-jibes-says-family.html#ixzz2Ln7MIdZN

How awful... the child's diverse school support group was unable to save him from his racist ways.

Anonymous Clay February 26, 2013 11:20 AM  

Good deer hunting down in Harligen though, John. Hogs, too. When you have to go out to your deer stand, you always have to make sure there isn't some Mexican(s) up in there sleeping it off. Those Mexicans down there will even eat javelina...one of the nastiest creatures God ever put on this earth.

Anonymous RC February 26, 2013 11:30 AM  

Under Jus Soli given he was born in and subject to the the jurisdiction of the US, he is a citizen. The citizenship of his parents being irrelevant in that case. Some countries such as Australia and the UK modigy that to exclude children of illegal immigrants, but lthe US does not." - NateM

As mentioned earlier, it's the "natural born" qualifier. Many take this qualifier to mean the president must be born of two parents, both of whom were citizens at the time of his birth. Under this reading, he would not be eligible, nor would our current president of course.

Anonymous Lysander Spooner February 26, 2013 11:31 AM  

The Answer to the Suicide Party:


http://www.gunsanddopeparty.com/

Anonymous allyn71 February 26, 2013 11:43 AM  

The final nail in the Repukes coffin was there rejection of the original "Tea Party" ideas and the full court press to co-opt the Tea Party house members sent in 2010. The abject failure of Boehner and the House Republicans in the funding battles and their unwillingness to go to war over Obamacare was the last straw. Only the Dead Elephants could take one of the largest political landslides in American political history ever and completely destroy the initiative in 2 years.

For good measure to ensure their electoral defeat they nominated a NE Mod/Liberal that started the American experiment with socialized medicine and marginalized the only candidate that attracted a new demographic to the party. The republicans have totally detached themselves from their base. They are so focused on how to cut up the 2012 electoral pie while ignoring the bigger issue (for them) of who didn't show up for the election (think Nascar aficionados') that they have no hope of being competitve for the presidency again.

The Republican party is the Dead elephant party and will be replaced by a White Nationalist/Liberty party within the next 3 presidential elections.

Anonymous NateM February 26, 2013 11:50 AM  

RC-"many" may take it that way, however the current interpretation of US Immigration Law makes no such distinction. If you are are a USC at birth, you are natural born according to US law. Especially considering that Jus Soli is as much a legal pillar as Jus sanguinis in determining alienage.

Anonymous BillB February 26, 2013 11:51 AM  

The low support from Mexicans for a Cuban should be no surprise. Hispanics, at least in my 60+ yrs experience living among and with them, are notoriously prejudiced. They are prejudiced by color, esp. green. The hispanics in my dying SW state hate PRs, Cubanos, gringos, mulattos, negros, and any one who is not one of them. Those in the wealthier areas despise those in the poorer areas. Most are pocho, i.e. a wannabe mexican, who have never lived in Mexico.


RE: Eligibility - Rubio is a citizen but as far as I can find NOT a natural born citizen because it appears his parents were not citizens at the time of his birth. The phrase "natural born citizen" has a standard non-redefinable meaning. Congress has no authority to define citizenship or the phrase "natural born citizen" because IF Congress could legitimately do so, Congress could redefine every word in the Constitution making it more moot than it currently is. Congress is subordinate to the Constitution as as such cannot make ANY interpretation. Don't understand. Go to work and tell YOUR boss his/her job and let us know what they say/do. The Constitution is the boss of Congress and We the People are the ONLY boss of the Constitution. Now lets act like it and dump these azzoles and keep dumping until we get some that behave.

Blogger JohnG February 26, 2013 11:51 AM  

I think it's pretty obvious that the Republicans find themselves in the predicament that they cannot be for fiscal conservatism when the left is openly offering bigger and better handouts (and then screaming loudly when people talk about cuts). de Tocqueville described the problem a while back.

But any more I think both sides are simply thinking about who can come out of the financial collapse on top (or better figure a way to blame the other side)...well, the smarter ones anyway. I don't think Clyburn, Pelosi or any of the other demonstrable idiots think anything is going wrong at all (or the media for that matter).

Anonymous zen0 February 26, 2013 11:54 AM  

dh says: This is actually a really brilliant insight. There is nothing wrong with being the opposition party.

This is normal procedure in Parliamentary democracies, plus, there is room for third and even fourth parties to reflect a broader spectrum of politics.

Anonymous BillB February 26, 2013 11:59 AM  

US immigration law is another unconstitutional action. Congress was empowered to make "an uniform rule of naturalization", nothing more or less. Immigration control itself was left to the States until about 1906 when Congress stole that power too. And again, Congress cannot define citizenship because the Constitution decides it explicitly. Congress is to make a uniform rule of naturalization to be followed by the states when the State naturalizes someone. Yep, all those folks who were naturalized by the feds really are not citizens.

Anonymous Feh February 26, 2013 12:07 PM  

This is actually a really brilliant insight. There is nothing wrong with being the opposition party. The point of an opposition party is to blunt the damage/impact of whatever policies the majority party is trying to get through. It is a valuable role. Even if the country was functioning perfectly it has a valuable role in moderating, improving, and stabilizing the majority policies.

It should be obvious that the Republicans are not a genuine opposition party, but a sham opposition designed to ensure that all dissent remains within politically acceptable bounds (i.e., acceptable to the Democrats).

If you assumed the Republicans were controlled by the Democrats, would the Republicans do anything differently?

Anonymous Mike M. February 26, 2013 12:13 PM  

Hell, the Republicans aren't even pursuing power competently. Stupid Party indeed.

It's crystal-clear that welfare recipients vote for welfares first, last, and always. All other issues are trivial beside that. Which means that importing welfare recipients in the hope they will vote culture instead of welfare is futile.

Anonymous Asterix February 26, 2013 12:17 PM  

What is the positive case that "natural born" means "born to two citizens"?

Anonymous dh February 26, 2013 12:18 PM  

This is normal procedure in Parliamentary democracies, plus, there is room for third and even fourth parties to reflect a broader spectrum of politics.

There are many things which I enjoy about Parliamentary systems, one being that it is entirely normal for all to have to go to the chamber and be heard. And you will be questioned. The British House of Commons is a great sight. Few in the US House or Senate could deal with that type of back and forth, and honestly hold their position. Most of our reps and Senators can barely parrot their talking points when prepared and handed to them pre-written.

It's not perfect of course, but it is robust.

Anonymous realmatt February 26, 2013 12:19 PM  

All spanish people hate other spanish people from other spanish countries. They may behave in and vote in the same manner but at the end of the day mexicans hate guatemalans.

Anonymous 11B February 26, 2013 12:22 PM  

"Kaplan cites University of New Mexico Professor Charles Truxillo’s prediction that, by 2080, the states of the American southwest and Mexican north will secede and form a new country of their own—La Republica del Norte

This will be affected by how long the USA continues to provide a social safety net. As long as Uncle Sam provides Section 8, food stamps, EBTs, etc., hispanics would be stupid to break away from the USA.

Anonymous The other skeptic February 26, 2013 12:30 PM  

This will be affected by how long the USA continues to provide a social safety net. As long as Uncle Sam provides Section 8, food stamps, EBTs, etc., hispanics would be stupid to break away from the USA.

And if they do break away, or try to, the smart whites there will likely be aware that they will turn those areas into Mexican hell-holes, and will likely try to prevent it.

Anonymous Nah February 26, 2013 12:54 PM  

f they do break away, or try to, the smart whites there will likely be aware that they will turn those areas into Mexican hell-holes, and will likely try to prevent it.

What the whites will do is leave.

Unfortunately, the Mexicans will follow them.

If the Mexicans wanted to live in Mexico, they would live in Mexico. They don't - that's why they come to the USA. If we give them part of the USA to have as their own (pathetic, impoverished, incompetently run) state, then they will promptly leave and come to the new, truncated version of the USA.

Anonymous Cobre February 26, 2013 1:00 PM  

I can see it now in the future, "but we had a brown guy, I don't understand?"

Rubio is to the liberal Mexican base what Palin was to the liberal female base.

Anonymous Thales February 26, 2013 1:20 PM  

If you assumed the Republicans were controlled by the Democrats, would the Republicans do anything differently?

America is a left-wing experiment, thus even its outer party is fairly left, behind the curve a single generation on average as it moves ever left-ward. Most Americans have no first-hand experience with a genuine right-wing society, its "right wing" party merely consisting of the odds and sods who disagree with one or more of the dozens of points on the ever-shifting official party line.

Blogger JD Curtis February 26, 2013 1:21 PM  

I'm not suprised at all that he doesn't have favorable rating given that Univision is consistently throwing Rubio under the bus. Long going fued right there.

Anonymous civilServant February 26, 2013 1:36 PM  

All spanish people hate other spanish people from other spanish countries.

Hispanics hate hispanics from other barrios. The city where I grew up had three barrios all of which regularly launched shooting expeditions against the others.

As long as Uncle Sam provides Section 8, food stamps, EBTs, etc., hispanics would be stupid to break away from the USA.

If we give them part of the USA to have as their own (pathetic, impoverished, incompetently run) state, then they will promptly leave and come to the new, truncated version of the USA.


What of the view expressed on this blog that hispanics are replacing a vanishing white population?

Anonymous Crude February 26, 2013 1:42 PM  

Third, either Republicans embrace their observable identity as the White party and start running on racial and national policies or they are going to be supplanted by a party who will.

What would this even look like? I'd like someone to tell me some of the policies that would be passed by the White Party that would identify it as a White Party.

Blogger James Dixon February 26, 2013 1:49 PM  

> What would this even look like?

Ending affirmative action, for starters.

Blogger IM2L844 February 26, 2013 1:53 PM  

It's a shame. It would've been fun to see one last big Paleo/Libertatian push in 2014 to blindside and scare the crap out of the lot of 'em.

Blogger Hamilton February 26, 2013 1:53 PM  

"quintuple it every time"

It's similar to the strategy used by the Optimates in Rome when the Populares kept winning the tribune of the plebs position. Promise whatever it takes, silly stuff, and win the position. Then tell everyone to go F themselves.

Blogger Galt-in-Da-Box February 26, 2013 2:07 PM  

dh: Please provide some practical examples of how GeOPapists even qualify as an opposition party, anymore?
They oppose nothing, they simply concoct the same thing under a different name, then blow their own foot off with the shotgun of Papist-dogma-driven issues. When they do manage to get elected, usually it's Rockefeller Republicans/neocons who come up with quagmires for US to become more indebted over, to buy the favor of AIPAC or the Papists profiteering in the Militarist-Industrial complex.
They are as bought-on-credit as your Democrats.

Anonymous Shawn February 26, 2013 2:17 PM  

"Fourth, Rubio is another RINO, just like McCain and Romney..."

No, they're Republicans. It is us who could be considered the RINOs. We are no more Republican than we are Democrat and the party doesn't reflect us, but it certainly reflects themselves.

Anonymous El Ron Paul February 26, 2013 2:32 PM  

I like Tacos. With guacamole.

Anonymous dh February 26, 2013 2:32 PM  

They oppose nothing, they simply concoct the same thing under a different name, then blow their own foot off with the shotgun of Papist-dogma-driven issues. When they do manage to get elected, usually it's Rockefeller Republicans/neocons who come up with quagmires for US to become more indebted over, to buy the favor of AIPAC or the Papists profiteering in the Militarist-Industrial complex.

Well I pretty much agreeing with you they are a poor opposition party.

In a robust system, the opposition party reflexively seeks to weaken whatever the majority party is working to legislate.

A great example of how this has failed is during the Obamacare debate/scare. At first, some in the GOP looks like they were going to try to amend the bill to make it 'better' - more like what policies they favor. At some point this was abandoned, and the plan was to just to vote no as many times as possible.

And now, they are complaining that the law isn't what they wanted (and have given up on repealing it, basically).

A decent opposition party would have made their mark on the law even once it was clear they didn't want it. This is why, in the UK, the conservatives will keep trying to fix NHS when they can. And when in power (like now), they will try to reform it to the extent possible.

The GOP is too stupid to even govern in their limited ability to do so. As a party trying to achieve something, they don't have the guts. As an opposition party, they don't have the brains.

Anonymous Porky February 26, 2013 3:00 PM  

dh: Well I pretty much agreeing with you they are a poor opposition party.

Umm, don't you have to actually be opposed to the other party to be considered an "opposition" party? The GOP has voted for tax and spend for years. They may complain but they always go along.

The GOP is more like the "annoying friend" party. You know, that friend that always tells you that you should find a nice girl and settle down but somehow he always ends up doing blow with you and a bunch of hookers in some fancy Lake Tahoe resort with grandma's Social Security check and a stolen credit card number.

That's about as much "opposition" as anyone will ever see in John Boehner or any of the other scumbags. 'You know you guys should really watch your spendi.... whoa...is that a bottle of Absinthe?!' Dude let's go the check cashing joint, get a couple o'whores, and head to Harrah's!

Anonymous scoobius dubious February 26, 2013 3:09 PM  

"prediction that, by 2080, the states of the American southwest and Mexican north will secede and form a new country of their own—La Republica del Norte"

The shit-colored mooching grease-blobs had better hope that the white northern/southeastern half of the country doesn't secede first, combine with parts of Canada, and form a new country called The Republic of No Monkeys Allowed. Enjoy your tacos and your poverty! Shit a new hijo out to celebrate!



Anonymous Somers'32 February 26, 2013 3:16 PM  

I agree that the Republicans are done... the Libertarian Party no longer believes in sound money and is more libertine than libertarian- so that's not an option. The only party I see whose platform is suitable to the challenges we face is the Constitution Party

Anonymous Noah B. February 26, 2013 3:16 PM  

"The GOP is more like the "annoying friend" party. You know, that friend that always tells you that you should find a nice girl and settle down but somehow he always ends up doing blow with you and a bunch of hookers in some fancy Lake Tahoe resort with grandma's Social Security check and a stolen credit card number."

So Porky, how do you know Jeremy?

Anonymous Gen. Kong February 26, 2013 3:57 PM  

dh:
The GOP is too stupid to even govern in their limited ability to do so. As a party trying to achieve something, they don't have the guts. As an opposition party, they don't have the brains.

An accurate description of their results. However, it begs the question of how any group could be that stupid and actually survive in anything apart form a completely rigged system. The notion that the Repukes are a controlled or fake opposition party is more probable. There is no actual opposition to the socialist-equalitarian genocidal utopia. Take a look at what happened to the Tea Party uprising. The identical thing took place on the left with the co-opting of the OWS folks by the Cathedral (to borrow Moldbug's term for them).

Anonymous DonReynolds February 26, 2013 4:28 PM  

civilServant..."What of the view expressed on this blog that hispanics are replacing a vanishing white population?"

No one can answer your question because there IS NO VANISHING WHITE POPULATION. The White, non-Hispanic, population continues to grow as has always. Granted white, non-Hispanic, populations are not growing as rapidly as the Hispanic population, but the historic nation is not shrinking nor is it vanishing. From 1990-2000, about six million were added. From 2000-10, over two million were added. The white, non-Hispanic population is about 200 million and they still the dominant population in this country.....economically, politically, and militarily. I tend to doubt they will vanish during my lifetime.

Anonymous Meelhama February 26, 2013 5:55 PM  

From Nate:
"Not eligible "

Wasn't he born in Miami? As odd as the place is it's still US soil. That makes him a US citizen at birth

We all agree that he is a citizen. As the argument goes, you must distinguish between born citizen, a naturalized citizen and a NATURAL BORN citizen. Rubio is the first; the constitution specifies the last.

Anonymous Meelhama February 26, 2013 6:02 PM  

"scoobius dubious February 26, 2013 3:09 PM "prediction that, by 2080, the states of the American southwest and Mexican north will secede and form a new country of their own—La Republica del Norte"

The shit-colored mooching grease-blobs had better hope that the white northern/southeastern half of the country doesn't secede first, combine with parts of Canada, and form a new country called The Republic of No Monkeys Allowed. Enjoy your tacos and your poverty! Shit a new hijo out to celebrate!
"

Am I missing some sort of joke? Scoobius is not a long-time regular and his rhetoric is offensive. Is it necessary to describe those of dark complexion as "shit-colored?"

Blogger tz February 26, 2013 6:07 PM  

It is the Euthan-Asia free trade party.

Anonymous Godfrey February 26, 2013 6:23 PM  

Neither Party is really that interested in voters. They’re interested in currying favor with the wealthy oligarchs. Elections are determined by the financial support of the oligarchs. The voters will be allowed to “choose” between oligarch candidate A and oligarch candidate B. Both candidates will support the political agenda of the oligarchs.

Bush and Obama are both perfect examples. What the say during an election is meaningless.

Anonymous Godfrey February 26, 2013 6:32 PM  

The Republicans have a very big problem. A significant portion of their historic support has been among the most sophisticated and intellectual of the electorate. Contrarily, the support of the Democrats comes generally from the unsophisticated. Democrat Party support comes from the parasitical and perverted.

Anonymous Crude February 26, 2013 6:44 PM  

Ending affirmative action, for starters.

How is ending affirmative action a white person thing? There are good arguments on behalf of blacks and latinos and women to end it as well.

Anonymous LES February 26, 2013 8:01 PM  

And Drudge doesn't report the Hagel confirmation.

Anonymous TangoMan February 26, 2013 8:42 PM  

How is ending affirmative action a white person thing? There are good arguments on behalf of blacks and latinos and women to end it as well.

The only way that I can make your comment make sense is to shift the unit of analysis between the two sentences. As a group level program, whites are harmed but blacks, latinos, Asian, and women benefit. But when we shift the unit of analysis to the individual, there are many individuals within the groups who are harmed, for instance, blacks and Hispanics and women who are able to compete on merit but get tagged as Affirmative Action quota babies because of their race, ethnicity or gender.

However, simply because some individuals are harmed doesn't mean that the group doesn't benefit and this is what we see repeatedly in polls and elections - these groups strongly favor AA because they are likely, or someone they know is likely, to benefit from the reduced standards applied to them.

Anonymous Daniel February 26, 2013 9:06 PM  

Am I missing some sort of joke? Scoobius is not a long-time regular and his rhetoric is offensive.

What's your criteria for "long-time regular" and under what basis is that relevant, Meelhama?

Anonymous Anonymous February 26, 2013 9:41 PM  

Greencarman here...

"The shit-colored mooching grease-blobs had better hope that the white northern/southeastern half of the country doesn't secede first, combine with parts of Canada, and form a new country called The Republic of No Monkeys Allowed. Enjoy your tacos and your poverty! Shit a new hijo out to celebrate!"

Out of masturbatory material, again, Scooby?

"The Republican party is the Dead elephant party and will be replaced by a White Nationalist/Liberty party within the next 3 presidential elections."

The nation runs center-right, not extremist right. Try again, Allyn71.

Anonymous dh February 26, 2013 10:12 PM  

And Drudge doesn't report the Hagel confirmation.

Bingo. And look at RedState, the official blog of the idiot right:

:leaning forward: We win.

They consider the Hagel nomination conflagaration a win. They are so far lost they don't even recognize a "symbolic" win is just another name for losing.

Anonymous scoobius dubious February 26, 2013 11:18 PM  

"his rhetoric is offensive"

Why, yes. Yes it is.

Anonymous The other skeptic February 26, 2013 11:21 PM  

NCIS says: Over 15,000 people a year are injured in gun accidents

Hmmm, cars?

Anonymous scoobius dubious February 26, 2013 11:28 PM  

"Greencarman here..."

Noted.

You are Greencarman, and yes, correct, there you are.

At least you're capable of getting that much right.



Anonymous Crude February 27, 2013 12:34 AM  

TangoMan,

The only way that I can make your comment make sense is to shift the unit of analysis between the two sentences. As a group level program, whites are harmed but blacks, latinos, Asian, and women benefit.

My understanding is that asians are, at this point, harmed. Also jews? I could be incorrect on this point.

Also, if women benefit, wouldn't it be at the expense of some men?

I'm just skeptical that there's many 'white issues' to speak of. Even on illegal immigration, the arguments would in principle be supportable by blacks.

Blogger James Dixon February 27, 2013 9:07 AM  

> I'm just skeptical that there's many 'white issues' to speak of.

An issue which helps other people in addition to whites is no less a white issue.

Anonymous scoobius dubious February 27, 2013 11:25 AM  

"I'm just skeptical that there's many 'white issues' to speak of."

You're failing to understand the true nature of politics, and failing to locate the question in the correct framework. The first step for "white issues" or a "white party" is for whites to remember, after years of leftist/Jewish indoctrination and conditioning to the contrary, that they in fact do indeed exist AS whites, and that they therefore have issues which impact them AS whites, and that it is entirely reasonable and just, and not in the least bit wicked or nasty or raaaacist, for them to recognize this, talk about it, and act on it.

Latinos have no problem recognizing that they are Latinos, and that there are Latino issues and interests, the pursuits of which benefit them AS Latinos and which concomitantly hurt others AS non-Latinos, and they have no problem of conscience in organizing and voting accordingly. The same is true of blacks, increasingly of Asians, and of course, famously, of Jews. The only major political racial bloc which does not speak its name nor discuss its own interests in public AS being its interests, is of course whites. This is patently ridiculous, has led to the endgame stage of the American republic as planned, and will have to be reversed if cosmic-scale disaster is to be averted. White interests of course naturally intersect at times with the interests of other blocs as you somewhat haltingly suspect; but they are not congruent, and cannot be -- and these intersecting interests ought not to be pursued except within the context of specific political alliances, which necessarily involve a healthy amount of defined and accountable quid pro quo. Whites need to re-learn how to be canny horse-traders, politically. They need to get over the idea of devotion to abstract principle, because no other bloc operates along that line, not even remotely.

"Even on illegal immigration, the arguments would in principle be supportable by blacks."

In principle, yes; in reality, no. You're looking at the guide-book instead of at the actual landscape, and as usual, the guidebook was written by a Jew with the intent to deceive you. First principle: Blacks HATE whites, at the very core of their souls, and want more than anything else on earth to have vengeance on whites, and to see whites debased and humiliated. And they will put up with ANY policy, even one contrary to their own real interests, so long as the prime directive is fulfilled: Kill the Cracka and Rape The Shit Out Of His Women. This is chthonic, purely atavistic stuff, not accessible to reason. Jews know this, and they have exploited it masterfully, weaponizing the violent, stupid, impulsive, oversexed negro as a proxy weapon to attack whites, and it's worked brilliantly. Look at the historic 50-year-track destruction of the great cities. Look at the climate of fear in which whites have been forced to live, in the country which they themselves built, but which they've now been hypnotized into handing over, without a fight, to peoples who hate them. Look at the level of ritualized formal public debasement and abasement to which whites subject themselves, for no good practical reason whatsoever that benefits whites. Blacks have Buttons which are easily Pushed. If they lose employment opportunities to illegal Latinos, or if they are ethnically cleansed from their own historical spaces by invading Latinos, it'll be worth it to them to create the coalition of the Great Non-White Majority whose true goal is to Get Whitey. [CUE JEWISH APPLAUSE IN SECRET].

Anonymous Edjamacator February 27, 2013 1:23 PM  

Wow, they can't give power over to Obama fast enough can they? Cowards.

Blogger Laramie Hirsch February 27, 2013 2:11 PM  

While I can understand scoobious dubious' position, I am uneasy with his tone of aggression.

Yes, whites have been screwed hard.

Yet, I don't want the idea of being pro-white to be purely anti-brown. That's how black people usually carry themselves. Plus, not all brown folk are bad.

However, it is more understandable to be this aggressive towards the perpetrators of the situation.

Blogger Laramie Hirsch February 27, 2013 2:13 PM  

...The perpetrators in this case being the "Elders of Zion."

Anonymous Crude February 27, 2013 2:46 PM  

Laramie,

Yeah, I agree. Being pro-white doesn't have to mean being anti-brown. I'm trying to figure out just what 'being the white party' should mean. I'm sympathetic to the idea that, if blacks can care about 'black issues' and latinos about 'latino issues' and women about 'women issues' and asians about 'asian issues' and jews about 'jewish issues' that, yes, whites can care about 'white issues'.

The problem is the anti-brown part. I don't think it's necessary.

Anonymous Anonymous February 27, 2013 10:24 PM  

Greencarman here...

"This is chthonic, purely atavistic stuff, not accessible to reason. Jews know this, and they have exploited it masterfully, weaponizing the violent, stupid, impulsive, oversexed negro as a proxy weapon to attack whites, and it's worked brilliantly."

A perfect example of white trash inbreeding. Bravo to your parents, Scooby.

Anonymous scoobius dubious February 28, 2013 5:49 AM  

"Greencarman here..."

As usual, you are correct about being Greencarman, and about being here; and sadly, about nothing else. But this is to be expected, I've come to learn.


Anonymous scoobius dubious February 28, 2013 6:37 AM  

You know, G-man, my inclination is to dismiss you out of hand every time, with the same observation: that the only true statement you're capable of making is that you're Greencarman, and that you're here. But in the spirit of fun and conversation, I've got a few questions for you. This isn't one of those blog-policy "direct question" thingies: if you wish to answer, fine, we'll talk, and if not, what a relief, I'll be spared the tedium of your company. My only caveat is, if you answer some or all of the questions, then we can talk. But if you answer a question with another question of your own, I push the EJECT button and you fly off into the heather by the roadside. But anyway, fair's fair, here goes...

1) The country has been in a severe economic downturn for the last four years; moreover, the downturn appears to be structural in nature, which is to say, its effects seem like they will last, recovery or no recovery. In a country with an official, new-normal unemployment level of 8% and a realistic level of something closer to 15%, why do we continue to have a very large legal immigration policy which overwhelmingly accepts non-whites, a blind-eye illegal immigration policy which is almost purely made of non-whites, a de facto policy of refusing to deport illegals in non-trivial numbers, and also a national political culture which seems to accept, despite vocal protests to the contrary from the public, the seeming "inevitability" of granting them amnesty and citizenship, which would result in their importing their extended families as well and thus tripling their numbers? Why, in your opinion, is our government doing this, despite the repeated and very vocal objections of the American people? Why is the conversation shaped this way, and only this way?

2) Black political culture in this country has developed an impressive set of tools to articulate and achieve the self-perceived goals of the black community: these range from well-organized mass protest techniques to literally warping the usage of the English language to accomodate their needs, to turning our legal system into a funhouse mirror. It is quite clear that illegal immigration, and immigration in general, has a massively negative impact on black unemployment, increased competition for services on the lower rungs of the SES ladder, and it's also an observed fact that Latino immigrants are actively, and often violently, ethnically cleansing blacks from historically black neighborhoods in many cities and replacing them. And yet the black political establishment raises not a noticeable peep about illegal immigration, launches no serious protests against it (and protest is a thing which they have refined into a mighty sword indeed), and has never offered to begin a serious public conversation about it. Why?

3) Do you know what the yearly statistics are for black-on-white rape? For white-on-black rape? Do you realize that due to levels of natural segregation in many cities, it cannot be a matter of sheer happenstance, because ceteris paribus blacks would not randomly encounter white rape victims at this statistical rate, and that therefore blacks must be going hunting, looking specifically for whites to rape? Why would they do that?

4) Do you know who Anne Pressly was? Do you know what was found on the ceiling of her bedroom -- on the _ceiling_?

5) Do you know what "knockout king" is? What about "polar bear hunting"?


Anonymous scoobius dubious February 28, 2013 6:37 AM  

6) Let's say you are an 18-year-old native-born white American. You have a natural talent for computer science, and wish to pursue a CS degree and a tech career. In order to make a living and pay down your substantial debt, you will need to make at a minimum, a salary of $70k p/a. Fortunately you are aware that this is roughly the going market rate for your projected skill set. However, you encounter a startling number of native-born white CS professionals who are unemployed and underemployed who warn you that in reality, when you apply for the 70k/year job, it will actually be given to an Indian or Chinese H1-B immigrant for 50k/year, and so you stand no chance of actually being employed in your field. Discouraged, you decide to study accounting instead. If every young white person in your situation makes the same decision as you, what happens to the culture of computer science in America?

7) Do you recall how the planet Pluto was discovered, without its being directly observed? Do you think it is possible to infer the presence of a phenomenon by the perturbations it causes around, rather than through direct observation?

8) Which do you think is more likely about a person like myself with a serpentine literary style and a wealth of peculiar analogies and examples ready to hand?

a) I am a crazy, ignorant monomaniac who thinks that a single issue is the skeleton key to explaining everything about the world, or

b) I am holding a magnifying glass over certain elements of our present society which are pointedly and stubbornly excluded from our public conversation about the issues of the day, in effect exaggerating these elements in order to draw attention to them precisely because of their exclusion, in the hopes that a more accurate assessment of the landscape will lead to more realistic solutions.

Okay, pencils down.

Anonymous Anonymous February 28, 2013 8:18 PM  

Greencarman here...


"Why do we continue to have a very large legal immigration policy which overwhelmingly accepts non-whites..."

Thank you for briefly overcoming your crude inclination. Two factors why (R)'s and (D)'s favor legal immigration...voters and workers. Both political parties are currying favor with Hispanics for political purposes. Should there be amnesty for illegals? No. Should the children of illegal immigrants automatically be granted citizenship? No, but currently it is lawful, so until Congress intervenes, "brown babies" will be used as an emotional ploy by each party. Unless, of course, you favor drowning the little rug rats.

Now, white people, perhaps more Republicans than Democrats, employ illegal immigrants rather than natives because they cost less. Easy for the three-piece suits to alter their documents, pay them better than their country of origin, and tell them to shut up. Solution? Strict federal and state enforcement of existing laws. But you truly think whitey living in the Hamptons and employing four Hispanics as butlers and maids are going to support any (R) that dares to "interfere" with their right to control labor?


"It is quite clear that illegal immigration, and immigration in general, has a massively negative impact on black unemployment, increased competition for services on the lower rungs of the SES ladder, and it's also an observed fact that Latino immigrants are actively, and often violently, ethnically cleansing blacks from historically black neighborhoods in many cities and replacing them."

You are making grandiose assumptions based on preconceived "facts". Cite relevant sources.


"Do you know what the yearly statistics are for black-on-white rape? For white-on-black rape?"

And most serial killers are white. So, white people are generally more savage than black people :)

http://www.lagriffedulion.f2s.com/serial.htm


Rape has nothing to do with a propensity for one race or ethnicity to be more likely to commit this heinous crime. What about in predominantly white countries/areas, what is the excuse there regarding more whites raping than blacks? Statistics can be manipulated or massaged to promote a particular viewpoint. There are issues regarding "black crime", there are also issues regarding "white crime."

Your argument of proportion to population is flawed, but I understand why you are using it though.


"Do you know who Anne Pressly was?"

Terrible tragedy. Do you know what happened to James Byrd, Jr.? Are you equally disgusted by that event?


By the way, Knockout Kings is a great fight game for the PS2/PS3, and polar bear hunting is conducted by eskimos. Why do you ask? /sarcasm


"However, you encounter a startling number of native-born white CS professionals who are unemployed and underemployed who warn you that in reality."

Blame the free market, not immigration. Companies have the freedom to take advantage of a situation to maximize profits and minimize costs.
You think business owners will automatically raise wages for white Americans if the presence of immigrants was significantly reduced? Get real!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3Xe1kX7Wsc


Finally, be my guest to "exaggerate elements to draw attention to them precisely because of their exclusion". Be prepared, however, to get appropriately bitch-slapped.

Anonymous scoobius dubious March 01, 2013 4:03 AM  

Thank you for responding, G-man. It was rather courteous and honorable of you, which was frankly more than I expected, given your preposterous character. Alas, the substance of your replies, I regret to say, leaves me with nothing of serious matter upon which to build a platform of any sort of respect for you, whatsoever. If any of the ilk wish to rip apart the absurd fantasies urged by G-man and play on their own initiative, I will give you say about a 24-hour period to toy with Greeny as you like. After that I will return, and unseam him from the nave to th' chops, as a more clever fellow than I once put it.

Look it up, you illiterate, poncey douchebag.


Anonymous Anonymous March 04, 2013 6:33 PM  

Greencarman here...

Scoobius Dufus' rapier wit is dull. So much for your triumphant return, you jackanape.

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