Very important international news
Insightful investigative reporting on the part of The Guardian reveals that John "I am a rapist" Scalzi lied when he claimed that he was enjoying the attention of what he hitherto described as an adorable "mancrush":
The headline is certainly interesting: "Troll's comments prompt author to pledge charity donation for every insult."
John Scalzi's name is an insult? I suppose that's true enough in light of his antics. But just to set a few things straight.
UPDATE: A sometime critic of mine who has challenged me to a debate with John Scalzi adds his thoughts on the increasingly hilarious matter:
UPDATE II: This should be amusing. I've already done two little interviews with publications in the USA and Canada doing stories on the affair. Is there no end to the madness? How is he so masterfully pulling the strings of the global media?
John Scalzi is the author of several books, including the Old Man's War series and Redshirts, published in the States by Tor and the UK by Gollancz. He's also the president of the Science Fiction and Fantasy Writers of America. Fed up of being constantly targeted on his website by one particular individual and his followers, Scalzi decided to take action, pledging US$5 every time "the Racist Sexist Homophobic Dipshit in question posts an entry on his site in which he uses my name (or one of his adorable nicknames for me)".However, the Guardian doesn't seem to have gotten the story quite right. The reporter appears to be under the impression that Mr. Scalzi did not enjoy the attention, when we were repeatedly informed, in writing, that he did. When was it, the inquiring mind wants to know, that "the "McRapey" comments became too much"? And why were we never informed?
Scalzi put a ceiling on his "troll tip jar" of US$1,000, figuring that gave his bête noir 200 opportunities to abuse him over the coming year, and said he'd give the cash to four charities: RAINN, America's largest anti-sexual violence organization; Emily's List, dedicated to electing pro-choice Democratic women to office; the Human Rights Campaign, which works for Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender Equal Rights; and NAACP: America's oldest and largest civil rights organization.
A novel enough way to tackle the trolls, for sure, but what happened next was somewhat astonishing: Scalzi's friends, Twitter followers and readers asked if they could jump in with pledges too. Many of his friends are high-profile authors and industry types – Will Wheaton, the actor who played Wesley Crusher in TV's Star Trek: The Next Generation, and a writer in his own right, was one of many who promised to match Scalzi's US$1,000 pledge.
By the early hours of this morning, UK time, the pledges for Scalzi's chosen charities had grown to US$50,000.
One of the triggers for the trolling of Scalzi seems to be a satirical blogpost he wrote in October last year attacking conservative politicians for their line on abortion control. It took the form of an open letter to them, in which he adopted the persona of a rapist....
The headline is certainly interesting: "Troll's comments prompt author to pledge charity donation for every insult."
John Scalzi's name is an insult? I suppose that's true enough in light of his antics. But just to set a few things straight.
- I have never trolled or sock-puppeted Whatever. I am not sure of the exact number, but excluding the 30 or so comments on the TIA Big Idea post, I believe I have posted fewer than 10 comments there since 2005.
- I have never encouraged anyone to visit Whatever, to leave comments there, or to troll there. I have linked to various posts at Whatever; a look through the blog archives shows a grand total of 58 references since 2005.
- I do not wish to have what passes for John Scalzi's stature in the science fiction field. If I had any desire to write unoriginal and derivative takes on Heinlein, Dick, Piper, and Star Trek, I would do so. As should be obvious from my 854-page epic fantasy novel, my sights are aimed elsewhere.
- Since when does "constantly targeted" mean "criticized 26 times in eight years?" Of the 11,327 posts here on Vox Popoli, precisely 58 refer to John Scalzi in any way. Of the 58 references, 32 of them are not even critical.
- It was really reprehensible of The Guardian to omit to report that in addition to raising $50,000 for the noble cause of not quoting, criticizing, or even mentioning John Scalzi, Mr. Scalzi also commissioned the painting of a dancing pink rabbit.
UPDATE: A sometime critic of mine who has challenged me to a debate with John Scalzi adds his thoughts on the increasingly hilarious matter:
As Helen Smith demonstrated, John Scalzi likes easy and ideologically safe (politically correct) targets. This rule applies on those rare occasions when he responds to criticism, as well. Scalzi realizes that the best way to smear an entire group is to cherry-pick its worst members, and then present them as the representative norm. I noted earlier how he cherry-picks anecdotal cases of aberrant male behavior to build the case that women require his advocacy against sexism. In a similar manner, Scalzi strategically chooses which critics he responds to.That is inarguably true, but on the other hand, John does commission rabbit paintings and solicit the burning of other people's money in lieu of debate, which is considerably more amusing than mere rational discourse. I certainly have no complaints. I'm simply enjoying the dancing rabbits.
He would not respond to Helen Smith, as this would place him in the difficult situation of having a woman expose his chicanery and call his bluff. Nor does he respond even to Vox Day—who swings back and forth between moderate positions and more extreme ones. But Vox Day frightens John Scalzi not because he is sometimes extreme, but because he is consistently articulate and often insightful. Scalzi does not want real dissent; he wants either sycophants, or babbling cardboard opponents whom he can casually demolish. The more likely a critic is to debunk his methods, the less likely John is to engage him or her in open debate.
UPDATE II: This should be amusing. I've already done two little interviews with publications in the USA and Canada doing stories on the affair. Is there no end to the madness? How is he so masterfully pulling the strings of the global media?
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1 – 200 of 471 Newer› Newest»That Wheaton guys is better at you then starting trouble. He is doing it across all media.
Vox, did you not in the past speak at least somewhat highly of Scalzi? It's sometimes hard to keep all of your "bitches" straight.
-- Wadly
Whatever's reaction to this post:
"WTF?! He said 'Ensign Wesley must die'! RSHD literally wants to murder Wil Wheaton! I'm scared! Let's donate even more of our own money to LGBT, rape victim, and civil rights groups, that'll teach 'em!"
one particular individual
That's the exact phrase to describe convicts in "idiocracy."
"so you can get a jail job while you're being a particular individual in jail."
Jamie Kennedy did a prank once where he was at a Star Trek convention, participating on a special panel w/ superfans presenting new ideas for Star Trek derivative tv shows. His idea of having Wesley time travel back to 2002 and go to High School was supposedly embraced by the producers.
I was in tears watching the expressions of the Trekkies when they thought this was actually going into development.
I am impressed at how this just continues to spiral into a bigger and bigger tornado.
I don't know if I am cut out to be a member of the Dread Ilk, because I really want to (metaphorically) throw Scalizi's towel into the ring and end this (metaphorically speaking) beating.
Maybe I just don't have enough cruelty in me.
I don't understand the appeal of most of the Star Trek universe.
I'll note in passing that the pledge drive shows the shallow hypocrisy of the Whatever crowd.
See they're not doing this because they actually believe in these causes. They're just doing it on the hilarious assumption that it will somehow hurt VD and the Ilk enough to silence them.
And to think that Guardian readers look down on those who read The Sun and The Daily Mail....
Wait, which of those papers has the page three girls?
And I thought the crap about Wheaton on Big Bang Theory was all made up... now it seems to be true. Dr Cooper has a better understanding of Wheaton than anyone could imagine.
Welcome to bizzaro world where internet shenanigans becomes news.
"Kickass February 05, 2013 12:04 PM
That Wheaton guys is better at you then starting trouble. He is doing it across all media."
Please turn yourself in to the transposition police at the earliest opportunity.
"...is better at you then...", That's almost as good as "All your base are belong to us."
The guy who said that this stuff wasn't hilarious needs to come back and repent. Did he not see the bunny picture?
It is obvious that this all requires a beer summit to settle. Or maybe espresso. Perhaps you can give ol Pres Barry a call and set up a play date. He is not doing much these days.
No.
All your base are belong to Wil Wheaton.
And all your womenz.
They're just doing it on the hilarious assumption that it will somehow hurt VD and the Ilk enough to silence them.
While hopping around on one foot they are demanding that Vox learn to sashay.
If this ends with VD getting a cameo on Big Bang I'm gonna laugh my head off.
Though I wouldn't be surprised at an oblique reference to an on-line racist in the near future. Because is it hillarioius what this social justice types consider do-gooding.
What's better is that this thing is only at DEFCON 4: DOUBLE TAKE. Just wait until they begin offering you their Canadian girlfriends in a show of solidarity.
so wait...
The Guardian didn't actually bother to call you?
shocking.
http://cdn100.iofferphoto.com/img/1080115200/_i/2577834/1.jpg
We need a Spacebunny vs Gamma Rabbit showdown.
This is hilarious. Well done!
I don't understand the appeal of most of the Star Trek universe.
It's a politically correct nerd paradise.
Sheldon is alpha and would kick McRapey's scut (that's a rabbit tail for the uninformed).
Sheldon is definitely the greatest matter of aloof alpha game.
Ah yes, the rabbits turn to the rabbit media in a harebrained (see what I did there?) attempt at out-grouping the hungry alpha wolves.
Unfortunately for them, massing isn't a very viable strategy against pack hunters with killer teeth.
It's a politically correct nerd paradise.
No thanks.
"I don't know if I am cut out to be a member of the Dread Ilk..."
The blood, tears, and lamentations of hutch dwellers is an acquired taste. Really the first thing to overcome is feeling embarrassment on the behalf of the midwits. Once you realize rabbits know not the concept of shame and have no use for such things as embarrassment in their small animal minds you can then divorce yourself of feelings on their behalf. It is then that those other things become as fine wine on the palate.
Charities....
RAINN, America's largest anti-sexual violence organization; Emily's List, dedicated to electing pro-choice Democratic women to office; the Human Rights Campaign, which works for Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender Equal Rights; and NAACP: America's oldest and largest civil rights organization.
Charity. Widows and orphans.
"Sheldon is alpha and would kick McRapey's scut (that's a rabbit tail for the uninformed)."
um, what? Sheldon squees too much for alpha.
Spacebunny should have both eyes open in that picture. The Ilk know how to shoot.
This is getting better and better
Stay amused, Vox, this is too much fun.
@David
I don't know if I am cut out to be a member of the Dread Ilk, because I really want to (metaphorically) throw Scalizi's towel into the ring and end this (metaphorically speaking) beating.
Just get another drink; the bartender will be by eventually. That band will play that one song again, soon, too, and it is a catchy little ditty.
It is funny that, in the Guardian article comments, Scalzi's friends complain about an "almost daily" barrage of Ilk-on-Rabbit violence. Then again, given that the existence of people that disagree with them bothers them, I guess there is a certain tortured logic to the claim in that all VP commenters have not yet committed seppuku.
That thing still astonishes me.
I don't know how this could be topped.
Wil Wheaton wants a photographer to die in a fire, too.
So we've got a rapist and an arsonist taking on a cruelty artist.
Is this a pitch for the next Saw movie?
um, what? Sheldon squees too much for alpha.
Contextual alpha. He is the undisputed leader of their nerd group. And has the best record of unintentionally soliciting female attention.
I don't understand the appeal of most of the Star Trek universe.
Like all things, they ruined it. Alas, how far it has fallen from being the heartwarming tales of a farm boy from Iowa who shot bad guys, got in continual trouble with the government, and had relations with exotic women in far-off locales...
"I don't know if I am cut out to be a member of the Dread Ilk"
Mate.. this isn't the apex. Its still closer to the nadir. Its just now getting good and started.
Wil Wheaton wants a photographer to die in a fire, too.
Mrs Wheaton...
I'd hit that.
Hey Vox, here's a potential insight; the reason JS calls everyone reading here sycophants is the same reason he attributes all trolling to you and your ilk; that way he minimizes all disagreement down to one single person, making the rabbit herd feel larger in comparison.
a farm boy from Iowa who shot bad guys, got in continual trouble with the government, and had relations with exotic women in far-off locales...
Amen, Mr. Green Man. Amen.
"Spacebunny should have both eyes open in that picture. The Ilk know how to shoot."
Nah, we just aim and pull a trigger.
Did you see Obama shoot that shotgun with civil war black powder smoke?
NAACP: America's oldest and largest civil rights organization. - Anon
That is untrue.
NAACP - Formed in 1909
NRA - Formed in 1871
Glad I could learnify you today.
"Contextual alpha"
Okay, sure, but look at the context.
Vox, did you ever in your wildest dreams imagine that engaging Scalzi would eventually lead to him commissioning a picture of a giant pink rabbit?
Is there anything left that can top it?
"NRA - Formed in 1871
Glad I could learnify you today."
Except that the NRA isn't a civil rights organization... and certainly wasn't when it was formed. Two yankees came home from the war terrified at how much better the southrons shot than them... so they created an organization to try to rectify that.
It is a gun control organization. It helped write, and supported, the National Firearms Act of 1934.
Gun control is a civil right?
The comments to the article appear to be the usual squicking over the unspeakableness of Vox's views and squeeing over their own wonderfulness for opposing such a neanderthal. A couple of dissenters have appeared, though: my favorite is the gal complaining that Scalzi's getting all the attention, while put-upon female bloggers are forced to suffer and retreat in silence.
Sheldon is definitely the greatest matter of aloof alpha game.
In the spirit of Sheldon, I can't tell if this is sarcasm or not.
Did you see Obama shoot that shotgun with civil war black powder smoke?
Yeah, that was awesome. If Obama thinks shooting a shotgun is fun he should run a few thirty rounders through an AR. It's a blast.
It is a gun control organization. - Nate
Dammit. Can I say it's ostensibly a civil rights organization founded in 1871?
"Dancing"? That picture screams for a caption reading, "Not in the face!"
So, let's see: a huffy outgoing president goes down, flaming and humiliated, taken captive by rowdy denizens of the gutter, and atrocities are set to go off in a regular time-frame.
Somebody tell Scalzi that Snake Plisskin isn't taking the job this time.
This isn't the movies, GR McRapey. There's no Escape from Dread Ilk.
Re: damaged justice
Exactly. Gamma Rabbit isn't dancing, he's backing away in terror.
Is there anything left that can top it?
Never go in against a wabbit when preening self-humiliation is on the line...
I really thought the Gamma Rabbit had to be a parody until I followed the link. I think the guy has to be having a break down.
This whole dynamic is entertainment gold!
Is it a bother to be viewed as the enemy? Not so much. What else would you expect from a chew toy?
"Dammit. Can I say it's ostensibly a civil rights organization founded in 1871?"
No. Because it wasn't.
Regardless its a terribly stupid claim... because there were women's suffrage and abolishonist organizations all the way back in the 1700s.
Vox, did you ever in your wildest dreams imagine that engaging Scalzi would eventually lead to him commissioning a picture of a giant pink rabbit?
Not so much.
Is there anything left that can top it?
I suspect we're going to find out.
On the terminal velocity thread I said I would donate a dollar to Scalzi's charity. I withdraw that offer having seen his list on this thread. I maintain the offer re Ed's dabate with Vox.
And these nerds wonder why they were bullied growing up...
Is there anything left that can top it?
This may well end up in the NYTimes before all is said and done.
"Regardless its a terribly stupid claim... because there were women's suffrage and abolishonist organizations all the way back in the 1700s." Nate
Duly noted.
What were these organizations called?
Dave Barnett is the author of Hinterland. He was probably mad that you got an entire imprint with a similar name, whose first novel had more reviews in about four seconds than his book has had in 8 years.
From its lone review: Hinterland charts the descent of a young journalist, Dave, into drug-fuelled madness - or his journey toward disturbing nocturnal truths about the world. It depends on your point of view.
I bet you Gamma Rabbit had the same effect on the intrepid gossip journalist.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but this all started because Vox used an over the top/sarcastic rephrasing of a Scalzi argument, which Scalzi interpreted as being serious. Scalzi then wrote a first-person post as a rapist, which Vox then "interpreted" as being serious. And it was off to the races.
This may well end up in the NYTimes before all is said and done.
Oh, come on, aim slightly higher! I'm settling for nothing less than a good and proper excoriation on The View.
In a furry-suit made in imitation of GR.
Is there anything left that can top it?
Scalzi in a gay porn scifi parody movie, to prove to the entire universe his utter lack of homophobia.
And it was off to the races.
RACE IS JUST A CONSTRUCT OF SOCIETY YOU HATEFUL BIGOT
Re: Roundtine
Pretty much.
Actually what bothers me most about this whole thing is the fact that VD's sardonic reply to Scalzi's Rape post completely diverted all the attention away from the Rape post itself, which is the single stupidest pro-abortion argument in history. That post really should have gotten a thrashing of its own.
Vox, putting the bunny on your blog on the left side made me spit coffee.
OMG!! It's ...it's Hwill Hweaton!
How ever will you survive this super secret weapon?!
I'll call Stewie Griffin right now. He'll settle everything. Muhahaha.
Krul: Why does that bother you? Rabbits are creatures of rhetoric, not dialectal reasoning. Vox simply reframed, and Scalzi danced right to Vox's tune. Gamma rabbits gonna gamma/rabbit.
Chuck H:Duly noted.
What were these organizations called?
Seriously?
"Scalzi in a gay porn scifi parody movie, to prove to the entire universe his utter lack of homophobia."
I wonder if Will Wheaton is available. Star Trek: Squeee!
On the terminal velocity thread I said I would donate a dollar to Scalzi's charity. I withdraw that offer having seen his list on this thread.
But will you pledge one to the John Scalzi Tattoo Fund? Because everyone will know you hate little black gay girls if you don't.
It bothers me, Soga, because the actual argument in the post got a free pass, in spite of its sheer multilayered idiocy.
Wil Wheaton is married? I thought he was gay like his buddy Sheldon. Learn something you can immediately purge from memory everyday.
Wheaton is that guy who gave a scathing interview about his own parents just because they liked to watch Bill O'Reilly?
What a dick.
Will Wheaton? I always suspected Wesley Crusher was having his hemmies crushed by Mr. Worf down in the homodeck.
"Wil Wheaton is married?"
But that doesn't matter. This would be on camera so it wouldn't count.
http://jamesworrad.blogspot.co.uk/2013/02/the-fight-against-vox-day-report-from.html?m=1
They're fighting back!
Here I was beginning to think this was all getting too silly and the guardian weighs in.
Re Trek and PC'ism:
http://snarkyposters.blogspot.com/2013/01/clearing-some-of-backlog.html
"Fiction, the only place where a band of theiving, raping, murderous thugs are Libertarians and Socialism achieves more than murdering millions."
I'll pledge a dollar to the scalzi tatto fund. Does this go to Scalzi to pay for the tatoo?
This is an open call to any visitors from Whatever.
Can one of you please explain to me why someone as famous, well-respected, and beloved as John Scalzi would waste his time even addressing this blog, its author or its members?
Professor PZ Myers (who? yeah, that's kinda my point), the noted atheist evangelist, just ignores it all.
Why, in your opinion, does Mr. Scalzi choose to give Vox Popoli even a second of his time? What purpose does it serve? What does he wish to accomplish?
Thank you,
Josh February 05, 2013 12:13 PM
I don't understand the appeal of most of the Star Trek universe.
there hasn't been any appeal to the Trek Universe since the even numbered original Trek movies. Ensign Crusher wasn't the entire reason why, but he was emblematic of the larger problem.
Josh February 05, 2013 12:48 PM
Gun control is a civil right?
now it's just time for you to shut your whore mouth.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_and_political_rights
" The English Bill of Rights was adopted in 1689 .... The Virginia declaration is the direct ancestor and model for the U.S. Bill of Rights (1789)."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_Bill_of_Rights
no standing army may be maintained during a time of peace without the consent of parliament.[7]
no royal interference in the freedom of the people to have arms for their own defence as suitable to their class and as allowed by law (simultaneously restoring rights previously taken from Protestants by James II)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Bill_of_Rights
Second Amendment – Militia (United States), Sovereign state, Right to keep and bear arms.
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.[60]
"But will you pledge one to the John Scalzi Tattoo Fund? Because everyone will know you hate little black gay girls if you don't."
Well, if it's for the little black gay girls, I suppose I have no choice in the matter. I'll pledge a dollar to the tattoo fund.
Update: Mr Scalzi has a new "Gamma Rabbit" cartoon posted at his blog. Apparently he took note of our reaction to the first one.
Seriously, does he not realize what's going on here? If someone called Scalzi an idiot, he would be wearing a "Proud To Be An Idiot" T-shirt the next day.
If Scalzi combines one of his recent outfits with a gamma rabbit t shirt, his victory shall be complete.
Soga said:
Unfortunately for them, massing isn't a very viable strategy against pack hunters with killer teeth.
Actually, the bigger the herd, the more chances the individuals have to survive. They just have to keep hopping faster than their buddies until the predators get their fill.
Well, if it's for the little black gay girls
Why did you write black before gay? You need to examine your homophobia my friend.
Why, in your opinion, does Mr. Scalzi choose to give Vox Popoli even a second of his time? What purpose does it serve? What does he wish to accomplish?
Blogwar is serious business.
Serious. Business.
now it's just time for you to shut your whore mouth.
You idiot, I said "gun control" not "owning guns"
Reading comprehension.
I just not feeling the love here, Bob & Josh...
Blogwar is serious business.
Have you read the short story linked by IM2L844: <a href="http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/29548“>Warrior Race by Robert Sheckley</a>
Mr Scalzi has a new "Gamma Rabbit" cartoon posted at his blog.
Concept isn't bad, but the end result is boring.
Gang, this is not a gun control thread. There are Much More Important Matters involved, such as McRapey's feelings. Put a lid on it. And while you're at it, pledge a dollar for the Tattoo Fund.
Does this go to Scalzi to pay for the tattoo?
To the tattoo artist.
I question Wesley Crusher's pull amongst Trekkie fans, it seems he has already been rejected by the mass...the proof is HERE
"Why did you write black before gay? You need to examine your homophobia my friend."
No Roundtine, that's not what I meant at all! You're taking my words out of context! They can be gay before black, that's fine with me. I'll pledge $5 for the tattoo fund just to set the record straight. $10 if the Reverend Jackson will personally select the tattoo artist.
Stickwick's quote at AG relating to Red Dwarf was remarkably prophetic.
Vox, are you concerned that Scalzi jumped straight from a leaflet campaign to T-shirts? Granted, I suppose a generous interpretation of events could constitute as 'street theater', but he's escalating much faster than Arnold "Ace" Rimmer would have.
Vox, are you concerned that Scalzi jumped straight from a leaflet campaign to T-shirts?
No, I am filled with rage, gnashing my teeth and shaking my fist at these dastardly masters in rhetoric and mass action! Whatever will these dastardly fiends think of next?
Oh Bane, how I miss thee. I imagine some poetic screed about raping the gay lavender rabbit, maybe squeezing some baby oil into the stuffing to get the proper squick to it, then donkey punching it because none of those charities represent violence against stuffed animals....
Is it just me, but when I first saw the rabbit cartoon, I assumed it was stepping back with hands up saying something like, "ok, ok, just leave me alone... please"?
"Damien Walter @damiengwalter
@davidmbarnett Well done for doing that piece without linking to the bigot. *applauds*
1h David Barnett @davidmbarnett
@damiengwalter Well, I figured anyone who wanted to could trawl back through @Scalzi's site, and if I'd named him I'd have to get a quote..."
That rabbit has a vag.
"Gang, this is not a gun control thread. There are Much More Important Matters involved, such as McRapey's feelings. Put a lid on it. And while you're at it, pledge a dollar for the Tattoo Fund."
I already did, and am matching my match the all matching the match of my Match as well as your match. Because I don't hate little gay black girls. I question your sincerity on this subject however mine is pure. I think you are making fun while I am serious about not hating little black gay girls. I think you are being dishonest while I am pure as white snow.
Is it just me, but when I first saw the rabbit cartoon, I assumed it was stepping back with hands up saying something like, "ok, ok, just leave me alone... please"?
Actually I thought it was getting ready to attack and rape its enemies with the purple saguaro of tolerance and happy farts.
We ought to have our own T-shirt.
"John Scalzi @scalzi
3pm Counteract a Bigot drive update: $36.6K in pledges. Sweet. Yes, you can still join in. http://whatever.scalzi.com/2013/02/02/solving-my-racist-sexist-homophobic-dipshit-problem …
3 Feb David Barnett @davidmbarnett
@scalzi Jesus.
Scalzi saw his shadow the other day and is feeling kinda chipper.
Josh February 05, 2013 1:44 PM
You idiot, I said "gun control" not "owning guns"
Reading comprehension.
you are correct, sir.
David Barnett @davidmbarnett
@scalzi Christ, this whole thing is crackers, but huge respect for turning it into a positive. Can I email you about it for a journo thing?
2 Feb John Scalzi @scalzi
@davidmbarnett Sure. My e-mail is on my site under "Contact Information" in the sidebar.
Oh my. Oh my.
This is art, true performance art. You have goaded this man into making a complete fool of himself in major media. I am minded, in fact, of the time I convinced Thor that punching me was no proper show of his prowess, and he should try punching someone who could better endure it: himself.
The results were similar to what this Scalzi creature is doing now: disturbing, yet hilarious.
Ah, good memories.
We ought to have our own T-shirt.
Yes, I want a T-shirt for all my matching the match and I will pay into the matching fund for the bunny T-shirt.
But it must have the text, "I don't hate little gay black girls" on it.
Ken over at Popehat is more or less taking McRapey's side here. Check it out
This just keeps getting better by the day.
+1 for the tramp stamp. Do it, JS -- Go Over the Top!
So. Let me see if I understand. I insult some guy I don't even know and to "punish" me he will spend his own money? What's not to like?
--Hale
Oh no Vox, you've made an enemy of Will Wheaton. Whatever you do, don't let him trick you into thinking his grandmother died.
I'm having fond memories of you too, Loki *snort*.
I think it should be black with a white fore ground with the bunny and the text in pink on the black part. I think we have a T-shirt maker among us as I remember. I need a 2XL.
$50,000? Is that the best those selfish pig dogs can do? I fart in your general direction!
"L-look at me, everybody! I'm throwing a little bit of my money and other people's money at some random charities! I'm being charitable! That makes me right!" You know I'm a pretty charitable guy myself (both in terms of my personal time and money), difference is, I don't blow a trumpet about it in public. I also happen to agree with most of what Vox says. Does that make me "right," too?
Seriously, the "I'm offended/being charitable so that makes me right" tactics is as insipid as it is insulting. Scalzi will do anything to avoid direct confrontation with Vox in terms of a debate.
We ought to have our own T-shirt.
We do. It says, "Meh"
"But will you pledge one to the John Scalzi Tattoo Fund? Because everyone will know you hate little black gay girls if you don't."
Okay, you ought to seriously do a similar fund raising drive as JS, to his same charity funds, contingent on him posting a pic of himself with that tatoo. I'll throw in $5.
We ought to have our own T-shirt.
We do. It says, "Meh"
No t-shirts, OCBD's ftw.
It seems that his fans, so inspired by his gamma-ness are going to suit up in plushie's and do what plushie's do. Holy Lord - this just keeps getting funnier. I haven't had this much fun in a while. As somebody wrote on this blog some time ago, "He's punching himself in the nuts and screaming (sqee'ing) take that foul bigot!"
Tatoo Fund:
Noah B:$5
Randy M:$5
Giraffe:$1
Vox Day:$1
$12 so far. Did I miss anyone?
COME ON YOU SYCOPHANTS!!!! It's for the gay black female children.
The appeal of the Star Trek universe to many is that it is a police state where no one works for money, they all "work for the greater good." In other words, they are slaves to whoever gets to define what is "the greater good."
In other words, it is a high tech, less brutal version of 1984.
The fans all like to think of themselves as part of the over class that prescribes the definitions, they think of themselves as belonging to the inner party.
Regarding Sheldon...
The guy oozes confidence. He is insufferably arrogant. He looks down on everyone. Vox is absolutely humble and solicitous in comparison. It wouldn't be inaccurate to say he possessed the Dark Triad traits.
He is pure aloofness to the women. Granted, only the smart ones seem to fall for him. But he has no problem getting even Penny to dote on him when he needs (like when he's sick), and he talks down to her constantly. And he says such wonderfully un-PC stuff.
It also doesn't matter whether or not he understands or is mystified by women. He can know nothing of game or the red pill.
How is he not alpha, even out of context?
Okay, he's got his mommy (and meemaw) issues. And a Wil Wheaton fixation. Which is definitely a beta affectation. But in total? Alpha.
COME ON YOU SYCOPHANTS!!!! It's for the gay black female children.
Yes I am matching all funds and the matching my match of all matching funds, so recalculate.
Giraffe, I pledged $1 too.
Giraffe, I don't care enough about gay, black, female children. But if it is to save a gay lavender cartoon rabbit, maybe. Sell me on it & I'll throw in a fiver
I'll throw in a buck for the tattoo. However, if we don't get enough money to do the the rabbit, can we just have him have his name tattooed on his male member?
I can see it now: Tattoo artiste: "S...C... A..., I'm sorry Mr. Scalzi, but there isn't any more room."
Repeated posts, name calling, fund raising, commissioning of rabbit artwork, possible rabbit tattoos, having TOR buddies use their spot at newspapers to write articles in your defense... Wow. I wonder how it will be when he STOPS ignoring VD...?
I'm having fond memories of you too, Loki *snort*.
Damn you mortals and your perverted "m-preg" fantasies.
The Grand Hutchinson, bad artwork, mention of Star Trek cast, all in one post...
Sweet Scalzi, and no one's posted this video.
You're slipping, Ilk.
...Just so that the Whatever crowd doesn't feel left out of all the fun.
We ought to have our own T-shirt.
A Vikings jersey with AWCA across the back.
Vox, even though your name isn't mentioned, this is great press. I wonder if you'll see a bump in traffic because of it.
Every time Scalzi makes a donation for every time Vox mentions him, I shall match and double that donation to the Babies-make-the-best-ornaments-on-top-of-prussian-helmets foundation. Surely, by his own logic, he will have no choice but to cease his campaign.
Unless he secretly desires to see babies impaled upon the headwear of mustachioed generals.
Tatoo Fund:
Noah B:$5
Randy M:$5
Giraffe:$1
Vox Day:$1
+ Shimson and Rienzi = $14
LL, I shouldn't have to sell you. This is to have a faggy scalzied purple rabbit permanently tatooed onto McRapey. It sells itself.
How about taking up a collection for some viagra...
Okay, the comments about Scalzi's dick need to stop.
1) Not funny.
2) Disgusting mental image.
I am sorry that I cannot contribute, Giraffe. However, I have a strict policy of receiving tribute and offerings, rather than making them.
I figured anyone who wanted to could trawl back through @Scalzi's site, and if I'd named him I'd have to get a quote..."
Very interesting indeed... do you know how to search a Wordpress blog for comments? It would be very informative to know how many comments he has left there over the years.
"If this ends with VD getting a cameo on Big Bang I'm gonna laugh my head off."
@RandyM
I can see it now: Sheldon and Leonard reluctantly join forces for an economics bowl (remember the physics bowl split?). Sheldon comments on how they need Theodore Beale; Sheldon picks up the phone and there's a cut to a meanwhile in Italy segment, Vox sitting behind his computer and his phone rings. He picks it up, says, "NO!" and hangs up.
Best. cameo. ever.
Ok, I'll toss in a dollar, but the color better be a good match to the cartoon. I'd hate to waste it on a stronger purple than the weak-sauce lavender they have going on there.
What if we raised money for one of those robot spankers that gammas seemed to be into? Would that help alleviate his obvious need for passive aggressive rants?
Having seen this post, here at his blog:
http://whatever.scalzi.com/2013/02/02/solving-my-racist-sexist-homophobic-dipshit-problem
reading the comments is full of the usual circle-jerking over how enlightened the Rabbiteers are and how wonderful Scalzi is are a few spots, one commenter notes that this is again, a bunch of circle-jerking over how awful the racist homophobe is, let's keep talking about how racist and awful he is! and another commentor, referring to Vox as a "Men's Rights asshat" and "Anne Coulter-wannabe" says Scalzi's to blame for "laying down" with Vox and the reply to that from the Princeling of Rabbits is an indignant, teary-eyed "DO YOU THINK I DESERVE (choke sob) ALL OF THE SHIT I'VE BEEN GETTING FROM THIS GUY (lip tremble, sniffle)" Exactly what shit has Vox Day done to Scalzi, is the question.
Ok! Ok! Put me in for a buck. Geez! The pressure is insane!
Loki of Asgard February 05, 2013 2:51 PM
I'm having fond memories of you too, Loki *snort*.
Damn you mortals and your perverted "m-preg" fantasies.
dude, that horse Odin rides came from SOMEWHERE.
and besides, we've got photographic evidence:
http://i.imgur.com/cTJJLrr.jpg
it's really amazing just how progressive those old Norse were ...
I'm broke, but put me down for 5 dollars.
Crap, now it's on fark, too...
Tatoo Fund:
Noah B:$5
Randy M:$5
Giraffe:$1
Vox Day:$1
Shimson $1
Rienzi =$1
LL $1
daddynichol $1
Unending Improvement $5
$21
5$ for tattoo. what a bunch of fags over there.
Bob, I've spent a lot of time coaxing His Lordship into relaxing a bit and not being so insecure, and now you've just undone all my work.
I hate you so much. You have no idea.
[Deleted for having a pathetically stupid understanding of evolutionary biology -- JS]
Scalzi's deleted comment comment. At least he didn't say the commenter was ignorant. That would be inappropriate.
Unless he secretly desires to see babies impaled upon the headwear of mustachioed generals
And who doesn't?
Rabbit Expanding:
John Scalzi @scalzi
I and @wilw just had a nice chat with @bbcworldservice about the Counteract a Bigot drive; it'll be on tonight. Be listening!
59m David Barnett @davidmbarnett
@scalzi Brilliant! @wilw @bbcworldservice
Pretty brilliant move on Scalzi's part.
And good for him and his readers/fans for their generosity.
That's how its done!
Ken over at Popehat is more or less taking McRapey's side
The strangeness is going fractal. Onlookers and latecomers feel a need to take a position on the best way to appear unconcerned about what other people say. Having a properly righteous Troll Policy must be a chapter in the Rabbitblogger Handbook.
One cannot simultaneously seek approval and truth.
Scalzi needs to go on a Charlie Sheen style road show: Violent Pellets of Truth.
Pretty brilliant move on Scalzi's part.And good for him and his readers/fans for their generosity.That's how its done!
Tad,
Will you be contributing to help Scalzi combat the hate?
Mr Green Man February 05, 2013 12:38 PM:
I am so with you there. I am currently right in the middle of Season 1, Ep 16 "Shore Leave"
Good stuff!! next prequel comes out May 17th! I'll be at the theater in the big screen room at 12:01am - can't wait.
(I am a big science fiction fan but Star Trek just really rubs me the right way)
"And good for him and his readers/fans for their generosity."
It's a bunch of Holly-weirdos giving money to the NAACP. Either way, the money gets spent on hookers and blow. I say, go for it. Let's see if they can get the donations up to a cool million.
Because everyone will know you hate little black gay girls if you don't.
Shouldn't that be "rape little black gay girls"?
...
Put me down for $3.86, Giraffe. I'll double it if we line up a skilled tattoo artist local to Scalzi and are still short his price.
The Guardian didn't actually bother to call you?
No, but I just did interviews with two other publications. Neither of them BBC World.
VD February 05, 2013 3:10 PM:
Yes: You can go to Google and type in
"your search phrase" or "your userID" and site:blogaddress.wordpress.com
The site: command limits the search to that URL only.
i'm in for $100 to the tat artist. But it must be a former prison tatoo artist.
Wouldn't Sheldon be a Sigma ?
No, but I just did interviews with two other publications. Neither of them BBC World.
Wouldn't the BBC, because it is government owned, be obligated to interview you under fairness doctrine type laws? Or does the UK not have those?
John Scalzi @scalzi
I and @wilw just had a nice chat with @bbcworldservice about the Counteract a Bigot drive; it'll be on tonight. Be listening!
This is getting interesting. Methinks Vox' site will be getting a lot of scrutiny soon. Apparently Scalzi thinks shining a light on your site will make you wilt. Very interesting indeed. This is actually an enormous opportunity for you.
Sheldon on BBT is more of an Omega*. In real life, a Lambda.
* Omegas are the social losers who were never in the game. Sometimes creepy, sometimes damaged, often clueless, and always undesirable. They're not at the party. It would never have crossed anyone's mind to invite them in the first place. Omegas are either totally indifferent to women or hate them with a borderline homicidal fury.
And I should have credited Alpha Game and the The socio-sexual hierarchy for the Omega description.
Mina,
Nah, Sheldon is Lambda.
Methinks Vox' site will be getting a lot of scrutiny soon.
[In which case, this is literally the perfect time to hie myself hence. I was planning soon to bid you all a fond temporary farewell anyway, Dread Ilk, so I could focus on the move home and my bride.]
[Last thing you need is the rabbits zeroing in on the crazy roleplayers, so, perfect timing. I'll be back at some point, when things settle down; your swimming pool is too attractive a nuisance for this boy.]
[Cheerio, Dread Ilk! Enjoy the rabbit stampede!]
Christina says:
February 5, 2013 at 12:44 pm
” The Joel Watson, pink rabbit for the ladies and the Kirby Crow black/white rabbit for the men?”
That’s sexist.
...Why are the guys on this thread silent, how come us girls have to shoulder the entire burden of pointing out people who are enabling sexist thought patterns?
A good indicator that a situation's reached MPAI critical mass is when absurdity and reality merge seamlessly. Thus the comedy formula for Monty Python.
I'm surprised she didn't whing out "extreme gender essentialism" or the like.
This stuff will likely be but a memory by then, but...
Gideon Smith and the
Mechanical Girl
David Barnett Aug 2013
TOR
...Look for some serious logrolling this summer.
Now, Signe. Don't blame Bob. Loki knows full well he could have morphed himself from a mare back into human form at any time.
Hell, he wanted me to take him out to the back-forty hectares for breakfast afterwards.
I think that rabbit should be wearing a lambda, not a gamma, on his shirt.
I'm surprised she didn't whing out "extreme gender essentialism" or the like.
Wtf is that?
Tatoo Fund:
Noah B:$5
Randy M:$5
Giraffe:$1
Vox Day:$1
Shimson $1
Rienzi =$1
LL $1
daddynichol $1
Unending Improvement $5
Don S $5
The Bandit $3.86
$29.86
Can't believe Scalzi's not going balistic about a lady who picked his book up by mistake.
A Scalzi Error indeed.
This is actually an enormous opportunity for you.
It couldn't have been choreographed much better. Dance, Johnny, dance.
Wait a minute. I missed this one?
Isn't it sexist of Scalzi to mock a woman who exercises by assuming her pose and never exercising? Then again, what's wrong with bein' sexy?
@ Shimshon: How is he not alpha, even out of context?
Per Vox's description of Alpha, he's not Alpha, nor is he Sigma. Arrogance is a necessary component for Alpha/Sigma, but it's not sufficient. The evidence indicates Sheldon is neither sexually nor socially dominant. He's a fussy, effeminate, asexual virgin, so he doesn't even register sexually. And while he's king of his little gaggle of nerd-friends, that's as far as his social dominance goes: he is routinely humiliated by losers like Kripke and Leslie Winkle; and he fawns over people he considers to be superior, e.g. Stan Lee, George Smoot, Stephen Hawking, Steve Wozniak, etc. His indifference to others and tendency to talk down to them is probably Aspergers.
@ Mina: Season 2 is, IMO, the pinnacle of original Trek, esp. with Kirk in full swagger-mode by that time.
"Cheerio, Dread Ilk! Enjoy the rabbit stampede"
Dammit...
Do as thou wilt Loki.
You will be missed.
Giraffe, I'm in for a dollar. For the children.
Farewell, Loki.
I anxiously await the disappearance of the sun into Fenrir's maw, for it will herald your return.
A comment beneath the post with a pink troll at Scalzi's Leporine Lair:
"What does being an alpha male have to do with being racist, sexist, or homophobic? I do Bikram Yoga(its the one where they raise the temp to 105 degrees with 40% humidity). The most hardcore instructor there is gay. He told us if we had a problem with him making us do postures over or hold them longer we could complain on Yelp. Some guy called him Himmler and the owner (who is a woman) Hitler."
-Guess (3:32pm)
This is fake. It has to be. A member of the Ilk?
-JH
"A good indicator that a situation's reached MPAI critical mass is when absurdity and reality merge seamlessly. Thus the comedy formula for Monty Python.
I'm surprised she didn't whing out "extreme gender essentialism" or the like."
You want to know the best part of that? "christina" is actually our own Josh... posting subversively. I suppose I had some hand in the scheme as well.
"Wtf is that?"
It's been awhile, but if I can translate Hutch correctly, it's the evil, evil sexist concept that boys favor certain things like specific toys and colors, girls another; since in the Warren's mind everything is a social construct hoisted upon several millennia of humanity by that evil, evil, evil (triple-plus-ungood, take note) patriarchy.
How can you not appreciate someone whose idea of getting back at another person is
1- spending his own money on something the other person doesn't care about
and
2- threatening to wear a pink t shirt featuring a frightened rabbit?
I can imagine him sitting at the computer, dressed up in one of his "satirical" female outfits and saying "Gotcha! I"m in your head, Vox. I'm in your head!"
Nate, Josh;
Excellent. Good times.
Just stoking the inevitable rabbit on rabbit infighting over who gets to be the biggest victim and who gets to play pc cop.
@josh
Will you be contributing to help Scalzi combat the hate?
No hate here. Just generosity and a good cause.
Phoenician in a time of Romans says:
February 5, 2013 at 5:00 pm
@YIH Deleted, as expected. My point being that it matters not whether you can personally handle reality, because there are indeed places where reality will handle you. Unpleasantly.
Have you considered, YIH, that the website of a failed wannabe sf writer who is universally derided may not be the best place to take advice on dealing with “reality”? I mean, as far as I know, the RHSD has no wife, no children, no actual career, and no accomplishments to speak of. Apart from over-puffed preening about how great he is, what does he have to offer?
I know I've seen that handle around here.
Come on Tad, join the tattoo fund. You can help John decide where to put it.
2- threatening to wear a pink t shirt featuring a frightened rabbit?
Is he really going to put it on a t-shirt? That's Step 2, according to my prophesy. Step 3 is gulags. I'm reasonably certain that, before this is over, the rabbits will be calling for Vox and those like him to be rounded up and "re-educated."
calm down everybody, Loki will be back. he SAID so.
and if there's one thing you can count on in this world, it's trickster gods keeping their word ...
hey, wait a minute.
Signe February 05, 2013 3:46 PM
Bob, I've spent a lot of time coaxing His Lordship into relaxing a bit and not being so insecure, and now you've just undone all my work.
I hate you so much. You have no idea.
someday Loki will learn the lesson of CrunkBear, Signe. you can't just go posting pictures willy-nilly all over the internet in various stages of dishabille. it's liable to negatively impact you in the work place.
on the plus side, if Loki maintains the CrunkBear analog, you must appreciate his twerking. in the privacy of your marital bed, of course. you and Svaðilfari both.
seriously though, you two have been fun.
Who interviewed you?
Also, why is this news?
I could write some code.
Or I could refresh these threads just one more time.
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