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Tuesday, March 19, 2013

Not even close

The Cyprus parliament must have gotten some very clear messages from someone over the last two days:

CYPRUS BANK LEVY BILL DEFEATED WITH 36 VOTES AGAINST. CYPRUS BANK LEVY BILL DEFEATED WITH 19 ABSTENTIONS

Given that there are only 56 members of the parliament, this would appear to indicate that only one member voted for it.

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107 Comments:

Anonymous JartStar March 19, 2013 4:12 PM  

That would be Mr. Target.

Blogger Nate March 19, 2013 4:12 PM  

Boy that dude had some balls.

Anonymous Josh March 19, 2013 4:13 PM  

Is he still alive?

Anonymous Daniel March 19, 2013 4:14 PM  

Was he when he voted?

Anonymous Starbuck March 19, 2013 4:14 PM  

So the depositors money was not taken yet?

Interesting...

There are going to be some angry bankers that didn't get their money they are demanding...

I wonder if this will cause a war?

Anonymous Orion March 19, 2013 4:15 PM  

My expectation is there was a hanging chad involved.

Blogger Nate March 19, 2013 4:15 PM  

So who had money riding on Cyprus defaulting?

Anonymous JartStar March 19, 2013 4:19 PM  

He was the guy in parliament nobody liked and they just played one of the finest pranks ever on him. 'Be sure to vote "yea", we are all voting "yea"... I swear... *snicker*'

Anonymous Schnoorky March 19, 2013 4:20 PM  

The correct vote but it's too late. The elites too clearly showed their hand. Even the most dense slave should see it now! Outright theft. There should still be bank runs when they reopen.

Blogger Nate March 19, 2013 4:23 PM  

"There should still be bank runs when they reopen."

You're over-estimating people.

Anonymous Schnoorky March 19, 2013 4:27 PM  

"You're over-estimating people."

Ya, you're probably right. I had a momentary fit of optimism.

Anonymous Porky March 19, 2013 4:40 PM  

That dude is not getting a Christmas card this year.

Anonymous JartStar March 19, 2013 4:42 PM  

This just pushes back the theft a while which is good for those who are preparing. When they finally come up with a plan to fleece whom they like then the rest of the nations will quickly pile in.

What's so crazy and short sighted about this attempt is complex economies are dependent upon stable banking and savers. Kicking the average person out of saving is quite literally insane unless your plan is financial Armageddon as you attempt to flee the country.

Anonymous geoff March 19, 2013 4:45 PM  

too early for some enterprising lad to start a Cypriot politician death watch for the pussies who abstained?

Anonymous LL March 19, 2013 4:48 PM  

From what I read, one guy was absent.

Anonymous Porky March 19, 2013 4:50 PM  

Although I did knit him a nice sweater.

Blogger Nate March 19, 2013 4:53 PM  

looks like Wolfgang got his answer. If you can't bully Cyprus you damned sure can't bully Spain.

Blogger Joshua_D March 19, 2013 5:00 PM  

The Cyprus parliament ain't got no chili.

...

Or ... do they?

Blogger tz March 19, 2013 5:06 PM  

@Nate: "Boy that dude had some balls".

From Golding to Gelding. He may not have them for long.

I was thinking the easiest way to prevent them from going the last mile was to give them a lynch. Of course they are on an island, so would need to get to a port.

Anonymous 15er March 19, 2013 5:06 PM  

They'll just go after retirement funds instead. That's already been successfully in the general region. This was just a test case - just how far can we really go?

Anonymous Salt March 19, 2013 5:10 PM  

If you can't bully Cyprus you damned sure can't bully Spain.

... as the German reaches for his wallet.

Anonymous 15er March 19, 2013 5:11 PM  

*successfully done*

Stupid iPhone and fat fingers

Blogger tz March 19, 2013 5:14 PM  

Nate: "There should still be bank runs when they reopen."
You're over-estimating people.


1. This assumes the banks will reopen.
2. This assumes there won't be some inconvenient terrorist incident (think lynching in reverse) so they will declare marshal law or some such.

The successive action in the PIIGS ought to be more interesting.

Anonymous Noah B. March 19, 2013 5:17 PM  

TARP failed the first time too. No doubt the squids have a backup plan.

Blogger tz March 19, 2013 5:19 PM  

http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/2013/03/eu-blinks-already-staged-vote-what.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+MishsGlobalEconomicTrendAnalysis+%28Mish%27s+Global+Economic+Trend+Analysis%29

At least Russia is more transparent about the extortion. And mobsters are preferable to banksters.

Anonymous Spoos in August March 19, 2013 5:19 PM  

If there are no bank runs on Thursday, I guess we can expect a more stealthy confiscation after people have forgotten about this attempt.

It seems the correct thing to do is a controlled demolition of the financial system, as was accomplished in Iceland. Not sure how that would play out on a global scale, but the heroic interventions to keep the bankers happy can't continue forever.

Anonymous Jack Amok March 19, 2013 5:25 PM  

Right, the inconvenient problem of the banks being insolvent still exists. All the vote did was reject one particularly stupid solution. Frankly, I suspect the alternative will be worse in the short term for the average Cypriot-in-the-street. From their POV, taking a 10% haircut on their savings would probably have been good short-term. They'll likely lose a lot more now, especially since the global players will have cover to say "sorry, no chili for you, you rejected our offer."

But, in the long run, at least they didn't let the banksters double down. They'd have taken 10% now, and wouldn't come back for more again later because even the 10% wouldn't fix the problem.

Blogger tz March 19, 2013 5:30 PM  

Also note there is an "internet sales tax bill" ready for a vote shortly here.

Anonymous Mike M. March 19, 2013 5:45 PM  

Considering that the Cypriot public was breaking out the guillotine plans, this vote doesn't surprise me.

You can get away with fleecing the rich. Start robbing the middle class' savings, and they'll have your head.

Literally.

Anonymous Anonymous March 19, 2013 5:47 PM  

But it's not their deposit anyway, the government has a right to it more than the account owners. Remember, they didn't build that.

Blogger Nate March 19, 2013 5:50 PM  

"At least Russia is more transparent about the extortion. And mobsters are preferable to banksters."

Russia rules.

Blogger Nate March 19, 2013 5:51 PM  

Russia... we see your threats to banish cyprus from EU... and raise you large permanent fleet off coast... and... numerous... credible death threats... yes?

Anonymous Stilicho March 19, 2013 6:10 PM  

In Soviet Russia, chili ain't got no you...yes?

Anonymous Porky March 19, 2013 6:10 PM  

"At least Russia is more transparent about the extortion. And mobsters are preferable to banisters."

Umm... in Russia, the mobsters ARE the banksters. The Russian mafia controls 80% of the banking system. Nearly 100% of all IMF loans go straight from the NY Fed to the mafia where it is promptly funneled offshore.

But hey, their protection racket is still a wonderful bargain. And I'm sure when it all collapses they will only slit the throats of a few of your children. After all, they will still need you to keep working.

Anonymous Salt March 19, 2013 6:11 PM  

It's so much fun knowing that certain EU components are getting tired of it all. Like Germany. So much so that TPTB resorted to such attempted plunder. The Germans have to feel as though they're getting a bit beat up.

Blogger Nate March 19, 2013 6:21 PM  

"In Soviet Russia, chili ain't got no you...yes?"

Soviet Russia has chili... of course. And Soviet Chili has you... yes?

Blogger Nate March 19, 2013 6:22 PM  

"Umm... in Russia, the mobsters ARE the banksters. The Russian mafia controls 80% of the banking system. Nearly 100% of all IMF loans go straight from the NY Fed to the mafia where it is promptly funneled offshore. "

Assuming we define mafia as organized crime... then ALL BANKERS are mafia... everywhere.

Blogger tz March 19, 2013 6:22 PM  

@Porky - but you are more likely to get 100% of your deposit back from the Russian mafia. If they don't/won't deal with the IRS or equivalent, they would be better than my local credit union. Especially if they dealt in gold or other precious metals.

@MikeM Considering that the Cypriot public was breaking out the guillotine plans, this vote doesn't surprise me.

The guillotine would not be appropriate. It is far to quick so does not inflict sufficient suffering. Scourging and crucifixion might be sufficiently redemptive - at least some could redeem their deposits.

Blogger tz March 19, 2013 6:26 PM  

The EU is turning into a Dystopiary worse than the tree from Charlie Brown's Christmas. The EUfloria is dried and brown. The EUnuchs fortunately lack the ... stones, but reality would prevent their dreams. They have less brass than a EUphonium - consider Elop's reign at Nokia.

Blogger Nate March 19, 2013 6:28 PM  

TZ... That's high art.

Anonymous Stilicho March 19, 2013 6:39 PM  

but you are more likely to get 100% of your deposit back from the Russian mafia. If they don't/won't deal with the IRS or equivalent, they would be better than my local credit union. Especially if they dealt in gold or other precious metals.

Lack of meaningful access to or just results from the civil government and courts are what drives people to black markets and the form of alternate dispute resolution also known as organized crime.

Anonymous Lord Snot March 19, 2013 6:41 PM  

My expectation is there was a hanging chad involved.


Or perhaps a hanging Neoklis, from a lamp post.

Anonymous Anonymous March 19, 2013 6:56 PM  

So French and German loans to Greece are bailed out but Russian loans to Cyprus are dirty mobster money.

I wonder who are the real mobsters?

Anonymous James May March 19, 2013 6:58 PM  

Sometimes one wonders what this was really all about. Was this a tangential strike at Russia over Syria? Was it a testing of the waters in a small place to see what they could get away with conning depositors? Was it simply trying to use muscle that was a mistake? The only sure thing is that it made little sense.

Anonymous Noah B. March 19, 2013 6:59 PM  

OK... my WAG is that that ECBureaucrats are now planning to collapse the entire banking sector in Cyprus as a warning to any other country that won't fall in line.

Anonymous Noah B. March 19, 2013 7:01 PM  

We shouldn't have to wait long on this one. If this doesn't happen within the week, I'm wrong.

Anonymous Porky March 19, 2013 7:05 PM  

tz: ..."but you are more likely to get 100% of your deposit back from the Russian mafia. If they don't/won't deal with the IRS or equivalent, they would be better than my local credit union. Especially if they dealt in gold or other precious metals."

Then by all means... ride that tiger, baby! I'm absolutely 100% totally sure that nothing could go wrong with depositing your life's savings with Russian mobsters right before a giant worldwide monetary collapse.

Anonymous Harsh March 19, 2013 7:10 PM  

The EU is turning into a Dystopiary worse than the tree from Charlie Brown's Christmas.

Is that a cross between a dystopia and topiary? That would be a hell of a garden.

Blogger ajw308 March 19, 2013 7:38 PM  

The only sure thing is that it made little sense.
It would make sense to us if we knew what really happened.

Anonymous dh March 19, 2013 7:48 PM  

VD--

Doesn't this invalidate your claim that the entire EU is a fascist globalist cabal?

Can you point to an action that was stopped by legislative or popular action from either of the traditional fascist regimes?

Anonymous Jack Amok March 19, 2013 7:50 PM  

Argh, effing typing.

and wouldn't come back for more again later should of course be would come back for more later...

Anonymous VD March 19, 2013 7:53 PM  

Doesn't this invalidate your claim that the entire EU is a fascist globalist cabal?

No.

Can you point to an action that was stopped by legislative or popular action from either of the traditional fascist regimes?

Yes.

Anonymous Jack Amok March 19, 2013 8:09 PM  

Sometimes one wonders what this was really all about. Was this a tangential strike at Russia over Syria? Was it a testing of the waters in a small place to see what they could get away with conning depositors? Was it simply trying to use muscle that was a mistake? The only sure thing is that it made little sense.

There's the possibility it was about stupid people doing stupid things because they're stupid. Somehow, we've let the dumbest, densest, most self-centered and unaware dolts take charge on both sides of the Atlantic. They'd be in over their heads trying to manage a grocery store and here they are in charge of a system entering terminal crisis. They got there not by being smart but by being venal. They got there by being the most selfish, by putting their advancement ahead of any legitimate missions their organizations were supposed to have. They never learned to lead or strategize for the system, only for themselves.

That asshole Obama was projecting when he said "You didn't build that." The Neo-elite running things didn't build any of it, they hijacked it. And they have no idea how to fly it, fix it, or even bail out of it.

Blogger Positive Dennis March 19, 2013 8:15 PM  

The banks will not open. Folks, this is the worst possible outcome for Cypriot depositors.

Anonymous zen0 March 19, 2013 8:24 PM  

dh suggests: Doesn't this invalidate your claim that the entire EU is a fascist globalist cabal?

I don't have authority to answer for the man, plus, he is on family time now, probably.

But the distinction has been made in other posts about International vs National Fascist.

The international Fascists reject Israel as a legitimate state, and National Fascists reject Jews from person status.

Not that difficult to figure out the world after all.

Anonymous dh March 19, 2013 8:27 PM  

I don't have authority to answer for the man, plus, he is on family time now, probably.

But the distinction has been made in other posts about International vs National Fascist.

The international Fascists reject Israel as a legitimate state, and National Fascists reject Jews from person status.

Not that difficult to figure out the world after all.


I dont know what this has to do with J-e-w-s.

Anonymous zen0 March 19, 2013 8:28 PM  

Jack Amok March 19, 2013 8:09 PM

But by goodness, they sure know how to promote themselves, don't they.

Nice rant, JA.

Anonymous zen0 March 19, 2013 8:32 PM  

dh repines: I dont know what this has to do with J-e-w-s.

Do you spell God as G-d also?

The only thing it has to do with Jews is as one way of identifying International from National fascists whilst drawing on a simile for defining the differences.

I found it elegant, myself.

Anonymous Anonymous March 19, 2013 8:32 PM  

"I dont know what this has to do with J-e-w-s. "

Nothing at all, Mr. Lew.

Anonymous Porky March 19, 2013 8:35 PM  

There's the possibility it was about stupid people doing stupid things because they're stupid. Somehow, we've let the dumbest, densest, most self-centered and unaware dolts take charge on both sides of the Atlantic.

Yeah. Keep telling yourself that.

Anonymous bob k. mando March 19, 2013 8:44 PM  

JartStar March 19, 2013 4:42 PM
Kicking the average person out of saving is quite literally insane unless your plan is financial Armageddon as you attempt to flee the country.




*shrugs*

we've had a central bank who's stated purpose is to maintain the value of the dollar which has actually committed acts which have destroyed 95% of the value of that dollar.

the savers have been destroyed-in-slow-motion for 100 years now, AND we're still calling ourselves capitalists.

i would find it hilarious but, for me, the novelty value has worn off.

Blogger Nate March 19, 2013 9:03 PM  

"Can you point to an action that was stopped by legislative or popular action from either of the traditional fascist regimes?"

oh is that what stopped it?

So the russian fleet had nothing to do with it eh?

Anonymous Anonymous March 19, 2013 9:07 PM  

"Yeah. Keep telling yourself that."

There is a 1/2 coon in the WH. Voted in by coons because they're coons. Then we have DWL types. So there is stupidity all around, Bacon.

Anonymous dh March 19, 2013 9:11 PM  

oh is that what stopped it?

So the russian fleet had nothing to do with it eh?
.

What is your proposal for what the fleet had to do with it?

Anonymous zen0 March 19, 2013 9:13 PM  

Apparently, according to some study, 57% of the U.S. citizenry has $25K or less in savings.

If they go after people who have savings, they are going after the hot money.

There is a vast matter of degree between me and a Ruski Oligarch, but as a collective, I have 3X doposited compared to what they got. The smart taxers go after the middle class in aggregate, not the higher-ups.

That is what a VAT tax is. That is what a wealth tax is.

The cypriots can take way less from the muppets as a percentage, and still end up with a goodly pile. The middle class money still out weighs the dirty money in nominal terms.

Maybe it was all a simple three- way negotiation.

Anonymous Jack Amok March 19, 2013 9:13 PM  

I'm not telling myself, I'm telling you, moron.

Anonymous Anonymous March 19, 2013 9:15 PM  

"What is your proposal for what the fleet had to do with it?"

They've got to fuel it...

Anonymous David of One March 19, 2013 9:21 PM  

So where are the big lobes on a banker and politician?

It seems like a good time to review the rules they live by and find out ...

Rules of Bankers and Other Theives




Anonymous Porky March 19, 2013 9:21 PM  

So there is stupidity all around, Bacon.

Lol! Well they've outsmarted you, anonymous. And they've been doing it for 100 years.

Ronnie Wingate: Whatta you got there, a Wop 9? Fuckin' Fiat of guns, always jammin' on you at the wrong time.

Ray "Bones" Barboni: [Bones nods, smiles and shoots him 4 times]





Anonymous David of One March 19, 2013 9:27 PM  

#192 may very well apply to Crypus right now.

Anonymous zen0 March 19, 2013 9:32 PM  

What is your proposal for what the fleet had to do with it?

Now, I am in no position to answer for Nate, but since you put it out there, I'm thinking maybe Ruski be thinking "if bitch be chargin rent, I must live there.".

Anonymous Anonymous March 19, 2013 9:33 PM  

Porky March 19, 2013 9:21 PM

Yeah, they outsmarted me...Not sure what Guineas have to do with at, but go ahead and continue to make yourself look like the tool you are.

Anonymous dh March 19, 2013 9:42 PM  

Now, I am in no position to answer for Nate, but since you put it out there, I'm thinking maybe Ruski be thinking "if bitch be chargin rent, I must live there.".

Sorry, can someone help me understand the relationship between Russia and Cyprus. Is Cyprus a quasi client state of Russia now or something?

Anonymous Anonymous March 19, 2013 9:46 PM  

--Is Cyprus a quasi client state of Russia now or something?--

Kinda got an offer they couldn't refuse...

- Tony

Blogger Nate March 19, 2013 9:56 PM  

"What is your proposal for what the fleet had to do with it?"

sure.

EU: Cyprus is our test case! We'll see how this goes!

Russia: You take our bank's money... we fucking kill you.. yes?

Cyprus Parliment: shitshitshitshitshitshitshitshitshit

EU: Ummm... Ok... so the russians will in fact kill us over money. Next idea?

Blogger Nate March 19, 2013 9:57 PM  

" Is Cyprus a quasi client state of Russia now or something?"

Yes. When you store a bunch of money for Vlad... Vlad will... take certain... liberties... to make sure his money is well cared for.

Anonymous Azimus March 19, 2013 9:59 PM  

It seems that its the Russian style to broadcast plainly when their strategic interests are being threatened. The Olympic War, Iran, wasn't it Russian troops deploying to Belgrade that ended the Serb-NATO "war" of the 90's? Didn't Russian troops go to Damascus right before the end if the "spontaneous" Arab Spring? While I find their culture generally brutal, I do admire their simple approach to geo-politics. "So you vant our deposits? Nyet, zis vill not happen."

Although. I can't imagine permanently deploying a squadron of six ships and say 2000 men in a sea where you have no port of call is much cheaper than 10% of your deposits... though certainly cheaper than an American group of similar force.

Anonymous Porky March 19, 2013 10:00 PM  

I'm not telling myself, I'm telling you, moron.

Whatever it takes to convince yourself, dude.

You just got carjacked and you're complaining that the thief is too stupid to use premium gas. "He's going to ruin the engine!" "It's way too much car for that idiot!" "He probably doesn't even know how to drive stick!"

It never occurred to you that he's just going to sell it for parts on the next block.

Wake up, morons.

Anonymous zen0 March 19, 2013 10:04 PM  

dh whines:Sorry, can someone help me understand the relationship between Russia and Cyprus. Is Cyprus a quasi client state of Russia now or something?

Age of the internet.

Long story short, Not only does Cyprus depend on Russian deposits, it depends on Russian loans.

The eastern Med is awash with oil and gas. Cyprus got pussy, Russia got shaft.

Do you see?

Anonymous Harsh March 19, 2013 10:28 PM  

The eastern Med is awash with oil and gas. Cyprus got pussy, Russia got shaft.

But the more important question who's got chili?

Anonymous geoff March 19, 2013 10:32 PM  

watching argo and remberimg feeling so helpless in high school that carter was such a giant pussy

what if iran had stormed russian embassy instead of ours? yeah, gotta respect straightforward russian statecraft sometimes.

Anonymous Boetain March 19, 2013 10:34 PM  

These guys never watched the Sopranos..."Don't F with the Russians"

Anonymous Anonymous March 19, 2013 10:57 PM  

Looks like the bill couldn't even get the support of the European party.

Anonymous Noah B. March 19, 2013 11:40 PM  

"So you vant our deposits? Nyet, zis vill not happen."

I think you're mixing your Russian and German accents there.

Anonymous The other skeptic March 19, 2013 11:56 PM  

And on NCIS, another evil white guy kills an American Soldier.

Pretty soon, the Russians will be the bad guys again.

Anonymous Outlaw X March 20, 2013 12:05 AM  

WE have reached the tiping point. The false Left - Right Paradigm has been busted to pieces over guns and money. The people are starting to figure out who the real enemy is and it is the bankers and their political minions. The damn gun control will fail, the bankers will fail. The shadow government can no longer manipulate enough people.

Desperate people do desperate things, so watch out they are going to be out for vengence. They may even start WWIII and run to their bunkers or just nuke a city.

Man, I bet they are really pissed just about now. The old world ways are dying and a new world is arising. The internet is largely responsible for the changing tides.

Anonymous Jack Amok March 20, 2013 1:37 AM  

You just got carjacked and you're complaining that the thief is too stupid to use premium gas.

You have reading comprehension problems, pig? I'm complaining that my fellow human beings are too flawed not to let these guys get ahold of the controls. I guess a linear thinker needs to have it spelled out in small words though, so here goes:

We were too busy having fun to pay attention to who was taking charge. We got too fat and happy and forgot it really mattered.

Anonymous Anonagain March 20, 2013 2:24 AM  

I was trying to get a Russian perspective on this whole business so I went to the Pravda site. There wasn't much unexpected on the Cyprus deal, but a link to another article caught my attention, America is under attack:

What the IMF criminals do is to promote growth by fiscal policy and money supply; they want the country to gain wealth - the more wealth, the more they make when the strip it. When they consider the time right, they change policy, call in loans and impose IMF conditions upon the governments; forcing the governments into the IMF policies of austerity, privatisation and deregulation. Sound familiar - it should do as it is happening all around the globe - even here in New Zealand! This economic terrorism, forces the people to riot; the rioting brings down the government and the IMF move to instigate their own controlled government [puppet government]. This puppet government, in order to dig itself and country out of the financial hole it finds itself in, sells off the nation's jewels. Nationally own assets, power generation etc [all paid for by taxpayers and owned by the people] are all sold by privatisation to "overseas" buyers". Industry is stripped, sold off and moved either off shore or closed down to prevent opposition to IMF controlled business. What they have done by sleight of hand is obtain all real assets for worthless monopoly money that they printed and forwarded as "Loans".
=========

Maybe Vox or someone here could opine about the article. Bottom line, the USA is FUBAR, as we know, but the article makes the point that there's no government, no vote, no party, nothing, that can prevent the USA from being assimilated by the IMF and global power structures.

Anonymous Outlaw X March 20, 2013 2:57 AM  

Maybe Vox or someone here could opine about the article.

Your answer is here.

here

Anonymous We piss on you March 20, 2013 2:58 AM  

It's okay. Once you are over the initial shock, we have a better idea and it won't hurt.

As much.

Initially.

The best course of action is to eliminate the extra credit.

Anonymous Outlaw X March 20, 2013 3:00 AM  

Bad link try this one

Oops here

Anonymous Anonagain March 20, 2013 3:08 AM  

Outlaw X March 20, 2013 3:00 AM

Bad link try this one


Thank you. That sounds like what the article is saying, except it's the USA being IMF'ed instead of just third world countries.

Blogger James Higham March 20, 2013 3:15 AM  

Very, very interesting turnaround. And we have our press freedom loss here which is a raging battle just now. I've been at war with one of our dailies today over it and they've finally published. There are major movements at this time and it's bewildering to keep track of them all.

Anonymous ENthePeasant March 20, 2013 3:36 AM  

"When you store a bunch of money for Vlad... Vlad will... take certain... liberties... to make sure his money is well cared for."

Let's be very clear about this. Vlad had his money there for years and didn't ask for shit beyond the measley 2.7 percent interest. But now they've forced Vlad to take "measures" to protect himself against those that tried to steal his money. The Deal, she is off!

Anonymous Vandermerwe March 20, 2013 3:57 AM  

"wasn't it Russian troops deploying to Belgrade that ended the Serb-NATO "war" of the 90's?"

NO. Russia was ignored and could not help Serbia. Russia, like Russian technology and tactics, are junk. Speaking as an Eastern European here.

Anonymous Vandermerwe March 20, 2013 3:59 AM  

"Vlad had his money there for years"

"Vlad" is not the right monicker to use.

Anonymous Porky, droppings of wisdom March 20, 2013 9:58 AM  

Jack Amok: You have reading comprehension problems, pig?
Nope. You said:

"The Neo-elite running things didn't build any of it, they hijacked it. And they have no idea how to fly it, fix it, or even bail out of it."

You are wrong if you think they intend to fix it or fly it. They intend to dismantle it and rebuild it. They are not stupid. Wrongheaded and elitist, but certainly not stupid.

I'm complaining that my fellow human beings are too flawed not to let these guys get ahold of the controls.

And one of those flaws is that you assume that the progressives are stupid - a flaw that they have exploited to their advantage for 100 years. Wake up, Amok. Until you realize you are dealing with evil geniuses you will simply continue to be snookered.

Anonymous Azimus March 20, 2013 10:02 AM  

Vandermerwe March 20, 2013 3:57 AM
NO. Russia was ignored and could not help Serbia. Russia, like Russian technology and tactics, are junk. Speaking as an Eastern European here.


Ah, it was the Kosovo War I was thinking of, when their peacekeepers seized the Pristina Airport before any other peacekeepers arrived.

Like I said I'm no lover of Russia.

Anonymous Jack Amok March 20, 2013 11:41 AM  


Seriously, you think Joe Fucking Biden is a genius? Oh, right, he's just the front man for the shadowy Gnomes of Zurich or Masons or some other secret power. Riiiiight. The international banker's, they're the geniuses. So incredibly smart that they're destroying the very concept of international banking. They don't have some master plan to remake the world. They don't have a plan at all. They're just con men trying to keep the plates spinning any way they can.



Anonymous civilServant March 20, 2013 12:06 PM  

What's so crazy and short sighted about this attempt is complex economies are dependent upon stable banking and savers. Kicking the average person out of saving is quite literally insane unless your plan is financial Armageddon as you attempt to flee the country.

Perhaps the people who made this attempt know the game is over and simply are trying to grab all they can. When the family cow is old and eating more food than it produces it is sold to the butcher. Yes?

Blogger Nate March 20, 2013 2:05 PM  

"Until you realize you are dealing with evil geniuses you will simply continue to be snookered."

EVIL GENIUSES!!!!

Who fall on their face 100 times for ever successful step forward.

Anonymous Matthew March 20, 2013 5:19 PM  

Having control of the world's "money" (not to mention mass media) is a ridiculously large force multiplier. It doesn't take evil genius or flawless conspiracy to achieve it or to maintain it. For the short term, not even moderate competence is required to maintain that fulcrum, as demonstrated by the last few years.

This is not to say that there are no evil conspiracies.

Anonymous Azimus March 20, 2013 5:48 PM  

@ Nate

"Who fall on their faces 100 times for ever successful step forward."

Let us all toast tonight the 101st: to Cyprus!

Anonymous HongKongCharlie March 20, 2013 7:27 PM  

Argentina government tries to take private pensions
Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2013/03/argentina-government-tries-to-take-private-pensions/#Xc5JSDaC6cYqjePF.99

So it begins

HKC

Anonymous David of One March 20, 2013 10:33 PM  

Hmmm ... so the French police are searching the IMF Cheifs flat in Paris ... I suppose it is unrelated, something that happened back in 2008. I wonder what Chief Inspector Jacques Clouseau doing?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-21858531

Anonymous David of One March 20, 2013 10:57 PM  

HKC ... it happens to some/most of us now and then but the article you cited by WND was published 5 hours ago and it cites and is based on an article in the WSJ from October 22nd, 2008.

I began to wonder when I read this paragraph ... "he Argentine economy has been buoyed the past five years by rising prices for the agricultural commodities. It also got a hand from Venezuelan President Hugo Chávez, whose government bought billions of dollars of Argentine debt in recent years. But prices of commodities such as soybeans have plunged in recent months, and Mr. Chávez is facing his own problems with the sharply lower price of oil."

I'd wager Mr. Chávez is really, really facing his own problems about now.

Anyway I went back and checked for the source at WND which there wasn't one so this is on WND soley.

Anonymous David of One March 20, 2013 11:29 PM  

this is interesting HKC ... since 2008 a number of socialist/communist countries "nationalized" private pensions ... then turned right around and pissed it away.

The difference here in the United States is that pensions have been both nationalized (social security) and privatized. So the USG has stolen more than $2.4T with worthless IOUs and may very well steal the private pensions/401Ks via Big Ocrapola and his progressive Democratic and progressive Republican cronies.

So let's get this straight ... no matter where you are on this planet if you put your money away to "invest" or keep "safe" ... the fruits of your labor is never really yours unless you take responsibility for saving and protecting it yourself. Otherwise these nice little schemes of saving and investing are ripe for the taking by politicians and banks.

We never really talk about it but a number of states, if not all by now, passed legislation years ago that said if a bank account was "inactive" for a certain timeframe and the "state" or "bank" couldn't find you or an heir of yours then it could be given directly to the state.

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