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Tuesday, April 02, 2013

Feminist SF/F convention battles lookism

I suppose it was really only a matter of time before the appeal of the strong horse began to take its toll among the feminist swaddle.  And to be honest, given what I saw of Madison the last time I was there, burqahs probably aren't the worst idea considering the amount of corpulent, graffitied flesh on display:
WisCon Makes Burqas Mandatory for All Attendees

Today the SF3 ruling committee for the Madison, Wisconsin-based feminist SF convention WisCon announced that starting this year, all attendees would be required to wear burqas.

“We were trying to think of what we could do to make Wiscon more inclusive,” said con chair Belle Gunness. “Suddenly, we realized that devout Muslims could easily be offended by the amount of sinful and wanton flesh on display at Wiscon. Therefore, starting with this year’s Wiscon, we’ve made burqas mandatory for all attendees. Allah Akbar!”

Both male and female members will be required to don the traditional black, face-covering, head-to-toe Islamic garb for all convention events. Gunness indicated that the convention would have substantial quantities of Burqas for rental to congoers, from Small to 5XL sizes. As an added benefit, she said that the new regulations would help eliminate “rampant lookism.”

Gunness said that guests would be required to wear the garb as well, “in the spirit of egalitarianism.”

Wiscon also announced that next year’s guest lineup would consist of J. K. Rowling, Stephen King, George R. R. Martin, Joss Whedon and Suzanne Collins. “At least as far as you know.”
You do have to wonder about a convention of lunatics so psychologically disturbed that Elizabeth Moon, of all people, is too rabidly right-wing for them.

UPDATE: The utter cravenness of Locus's apology is considerably funnier than the originally posted article.

"We would like to offer our apology for the offensive April Fool’s post that was published on the site today. The April Fool’s pieces were not seen by the Locus HQ staff before being posted — it was an ugly moment this morning when we saw the post already online, and we immediately took steps to remove it. Of course, being after the fact, it was too late, and the offense had already happened. We did not find the post funny at all, and it does not reflect in any way the opinions of the magazine staff. We apologize for it appearing under our auspices."

It's not funny.  It's not funny at all!  Also, and I quote, "John Scalzi is a rapist.

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Blogger redlegben April 02, 2013 4:33 AM  

We actually plan on moving to Madison in the next year. It's a great place for zombie apocalypse scenarios. Plenty of water. Lots of white people that will flip the ethnic switch when necessary. The conservative populace is staunch due to the radical leftists. Very small minority population. Quite arable land as well. Intelligence is a good standard deviation above the conservative South.

Anonymous FrankNorman April 02, 2013 4:37 AM  

A belated Happy April the First to you all, I think...

Anonymous VryeDenker April 02, 2013 4:38 AM  

VERY OT:
Feds do not need court warrants to Track your Car with GPS device
. Because terrorists.

Anonymous FrankNorman April 02, 2013 4:48 AM  


VryeDenker April 02, 2013 4:38 AM

VERY OT:
Feds do not need court warrants to Track your Car with GPS device. Because terrorists.


What would you do if you found such a device attached to your car?

Blogger redlegben April 02, 2013 5:00 AM  

It's actually quite difficult to determine which comments are parody or not in the article. The Onion has become real news.

Anonymous VryeDenker April 02, 2013 5:02 AM  

What would you do if you found such a device attached to your car?

1. Freak the hell out.
2. Get pissed off.
3. Remove it (if possible) and store it in my garage. They know where I live anyway and I might not be charged with damaging state property if the thing is in good condition. Would love to stick it on a garbage truck though.

Anonymous VryeDenker April 02, 2013 5:05 AM  

If I were the type, I'd remove it and take it to the police department and claim that I think it's a bomb and that they should dispose of it.

Anonymous Roundtine April 02, 2013 5:12 AM  

More believable if they said it was to prevent sexual harassment and promote equality, as well as being inclusive of alternative faiths.

Blogger redlegben April 02, 2013 5:13 AM  

when will people learn free speech refers to government control, and not April Fools jokes on the internet? When will people learn that it goes both ways–if you’re free to say some dumbass offensive unfunny shit other people are ALSO FREE to say that it’s dumbass offensive unfunny shit? Just because you’re free to say it doesn’t mean you’re free from the consequences of saying it!

This was awesome. What does said protagonist think are the consequences of saying something funny? Obviously our local McRapey issue is evidence of the fact that things can't be funny that offend the PC minded.

Anonymous kh123 April 02, 2013 5:40 AM  

Pipe blocked.

Anonymous Peter Garstig April 02, 2013 5:42 AM  

They bailed.

Who would have thought.

Blogger mmaier2112 April 02, 2013 5:56 AM  

"graffitied flesh"

Excellent term. I've been trying to think of a phrase to convey to females my disgust for "tats". This comes close to capturing the contempt part.

Anonymous OCS April 02, 2013 5:56 AM  

It's okay Vox, the men of our time will save the day!

...

And sadly, that link is NOT an April Fool's prank.

Blogger JACIII April 02, 2013 5:57 AM  

Pure gold. A tornado couldn't twist so many size 5xl "big mama" granny panties so quickly and with such manifest proficiency were it to loiter in a trailer park.

Anonymous Porky April 02, 2013 6:01 AM  

Progs are incapable of laughing at themselves.

So we should do it for them.

Anonymous OCS April 02, 2013 6:05 AM  

No, it would be about letting the useful idiots crush themselves.

If they really are salivating over Muslims for the sake of vibrancy, it WILL happen. I myself am ready for another heaping spoonful of irony that history loves to dish out.

If the woody would be in reserve for the situation, not the... buffalo... if you catch my drift. *moo?*

At the very least, none of us here would cow-tow to their demands even as they are falling.

Blogger HerewardMW April 02, 2013 6:06 AM  

Sadly the apology was right - the April Fools joke wasn't that funny. Fortunately for us the apology was hilarious.

HerewardMW

Blogger GF Dad April 02, 2013 6:19 AM  

OCS - " 5 Ways Disavowing Masculinity Changed My Life". I had hoped you were wrong, but alas, it wasn't an April Fool's joke.
If there are enough males of similar opinion to support that web site's existence, we are a failed species. Come quickly, Lord Jesus.

Blogger JACIII April 02, 2013 6:42 AM  

GF Dad, OCS,

relax - dude is obviously gay.

This is evidenced by his feminine model of human behavior; i.e. men engage in outwardly "masculine" behavior solely to portray themselves a certain way to others rather than because they are naturally inclined. Makes sense from his perspective: undercover, or "on the downlow" as the brothers say. The only suspense is the when of his coming out.

Anonymous Tom B April 02, 2013 6:43 AM  

>>>> Intelligence is a good standard deviation above the conservative South.

Bullshit. And the proof is the rampant Leftism. WHEN are Yankees going to learn the South, as a general rule, is smarter, has prettier women, and better cooking than they do? (Answer: Never, because they aren't as smart as us Good Ol'Boys.)

Anonymous Rantor April 02, 2013 6:49 AM  

This was hilarious... of greater concern are many of the comments after the article. American's are genuinely upset about this! Who knew that making fun of fat feminist fantasy fans was so infamously incorrect. Too much cheese and reading makes Fran a fat feminist.

As for disavowing masculinity, WTF... wearing women's clothing!!! This guy spent too much time with Alan Alda and Phil Donahue types.

must get ready for work. Time for a cleansing shower and shave... but I will not touch a man while doing that, and there will be no women's brooch upon my pinstripe suit. Come to think of it, you are allowed to tell me how good I look. Sorry, I take that back.

Anonymous OCS April 02, 2013 6:59 AM  

relax - dude is obviously gay.

My what an interesting sentence.

Anonymous Houston April 02, 2013 7:31 AM  

"John Scalzi is a rapist."

This is the "Carthago delenda est" of our time.

Anonymous Dave April 02, 2013 7:50 AM  

"What would you do if you found such a device attached to your car?"

Devices like that really only work if the person monitoring you is close by, say, within a few hundred meters. A far, far better way to track people is through cellphones, which almost everybody has. If the Feds want to keep track of someone, it wouldn't hard for them to do.

Anonymous Skinny Dan April 02, 2013 7:52 AM  

I live in Madison, WI. There are lots of fatties here. But I was walking around the Capitol last summer and WisCon was between sessions. I'm not sure I've ever seen such corpulence concentrated in one place before. Bring on the burqas!

I've got a soft spot for Madison in spite of its liberal idiocy. As someone wrote above, it is primarily wealthy and white, and these UW types, while self-righteous, are smart enough to keep their little idyll pristine. I went to school here and graduated with a degree that has actually given me a good life (for now). Plus, it's a hard core drinking town, and all my drinking buddies are here. GO BADGERS and ON WISCONSIN!!!

Blogger LP 999/Eliza April 02, 2013 8:01 AM  

This is hilarious, I love it. Instead, women should be required to wear swimsuits. Fat or Not!

Anonymous Stingray April 02, 2013 8:01 AM  

OCS,

Thankfully I had not eaten breakfast yet when I read your link. I think I would have lost it if I had. It really made my stomach turn.

Anonymous Rantor April 02, 2013 8:15 AM  

Fifty fat feminist fantasy fans featuring faux-feline fuchsia form-fitting flannel.

Sorry...had to share

Anonymous Athor Pel April 02, 2013 8:15 AM  

"redlegben April 02, 2013 4:33 AM
... Intelligence is a good standard deviation above the conservative South."



I'd like to see the evidence for this. If you can't produce said evidence, shut the hell up you yankee bastard.

Blogger Nate April 02, 2013 8:16 AM  

Wisconsin is a blight on the world. It is literally the birthplace of hellspawn... and I don't just mean the Packers.

Anonymous scoobius dubious April 02, 2013 8:18 AM  

Madison has its charms, (I especially liked chatting with the blue-collar locals who weren't UW types) but for people who are supposed to be so smart, it has the ugliest-looking architecture and the worst city planning I've ever seen.

Blogger Nate April 02, 2013 8:21 AM  

Hey speaking of on Wisonsin... did y'all have a pretty successful football coach up there?

And did he blow you off?

For Arkansas?

Anonymous Skinny Dan April 02, 2013 8:22 AM  

Hey, cut the planners some slack. They were shit-faced when they drew up the plans, OK?

Anonymous Skinny Dan April 02, 2013 8:23 AM  

Have fun with that, Nate. Bielema is a true Wisconsin blowhard.

Blogger GF Dad April 02, 2013 8:30 AM  

"Dude is obviously gay"

I guess with the " Raj Koothrappali" model being more common among young males, it is not obvious that he is gay. In fact, what he exposes is pretty much what I would expect from a metrosexual. I would love to tell him that he needs to get outside, hike, deer hunt, fish, lift weights, learn how to change the oil in his own car, go to a NASCAR event... Just do something that men do and get to know some men who love their wife and kids, go to work faithfully everyday, love God and country, and try their best to obey the law and their God and do what is right. Then and only then decide if he really wants to reject masculinity based on some sitcom caricature of manhood.

Anonymous Alexander April 02, 2013 8:41 AM  

There's a lot of fun to be had when Yankees start talking about how much smarter their part of the country is. Wisconsin is over 80% white, the deep south averages out in the low 60's. Seems to me that any time a Yankee says he and his are better in any way, there's a case to be made that he's being raciss.

Anonymous Big Bill April 02, 2013 8:44 AM  

What would happen if you appeared at the convention in full Muslim garb? Show up dressed from head to toe Wear gloves, too. Don't say a word to anyone for any reason. Just monitor the meetings looking at people occasionally, and being utterly silent.

Of course all of feminists will start to squirm, particularly if it is some girls-only breakout session. As they talk, they will get incredibly uncomfortable, looking at your height (I'm assuming about 6 feet), knowing you are a man, or at least suspecting it.

Being intensely politically correct, they will look at you, and then feel embarrassed for their fear. You will effectively disrupt the meeting, preventing them from talking freely, and they will feel acutely aware of their racism and prejudice. But there is one thing they dare not do: ask you to remove your disguise.

If we are going to erode their PC attitudes we are going to have to start using Yippie-ish tactics, things like this--guerilla theater.

Register for the convention in advance using a strange word or two as a name. Perhaps find some utterly obscure name from some far-off country like Yemen. some words that don't appear even to be a name, perhaps, and certainly for which there is no obvious gender. If the organizers don't check the identification card of other people, they will be loathe to check your identification, particularly since they don't ask to see anyone else's ID. If they do ask, make a point of having someone else (Preferably a swarthy male) come with you. have the male immediately pitch a bitch, yelling "racist" if they insist on looking at your ID, or showing your face.

If, for whatever reason they do find out who you are, ins is that you are a pre-conversion Muslim transsexual. That will REALLY throw them in a tizzy. They will be double damned: racist AND sexist.

Blogger SarahsDaughter April 02, 2013 8:48 AM  

Seems to me that any time a Yankee says he and his are better in any way, there's a case to be made that he's being raciss.

You think? Or is it the other side who whines, "not fair, we have to include more vibrancy in our statistics."

Anonymous DrTorch April 02, 2013 8:57 AM  

Hey speaking of on Wisonsin... did y'all have a pretty successful football coach up there?

And did he blow you off?

For Arkansas?


Yeah, he went to face easier competition.

WHEN are Yankees going to learn the South, as a general rule, is smarter, has prettier women,

A few years ago I had two meetings in SW Ohio. So I flew into Dayton and drove to Cincy next day. What stunned me is how much fatter the women got the closer I got to Kentucky.

One small data point, but I've lived in more places in the US than many people, and that includes the south.

Anonymous Alexander April 02, 2013 8:58 AM  

SarahsDaughter,

Certainly. But it's a losing way to go about it that way - the vibrancy is going to be around until it is forcibly removed so whining solves nothing but handing the raciss card back to the Yankees. Better to agree and amplify. Play up the de facto superior vibrancy and multiculti of the south and how it makes any claims of northern superiority inherently raciss.

Granted, it's not actually fixing any problems, but it's good for a laugh and shutting down the smugness for two minutes. Victories where you can get them...

Anonymous Lulabelle April 02, 2013 9:18 AM  

">>>> Intelligence is a good standard deviation above the conservative South.

Bullshit. And the proof is the rampant Leftism. WHEN are Yankees going to learn the South, as a general rule, is smarter, has prettier women, and better cooking than they do? (Answer: Never, because they aren't as smart as us Good Ol'Boys.)"

Hear! Hear!

Anonymous Josh April 02, 2013 9:40 AM  

If you like southern girls, raise your glasses.

If you don't like southern girls, raise your standards.

Blogger Nate April 02, 2013 9:40 AM  

"Yeah, he went to face easier competition."

Ladies and Gentlemen...

A prime example of Wisconsin intellect.

Blogger GF Dad April 02, 2013 9:42 AM  

I totally agree with the prettier women comment. I don't know what it is: genetics, better water, milder winters, but it is true.

Blogger SarahsDaughter April 02, 2013 9:47 AM  

"Yanks are smarter"

"Oh yeah? Football."

Oh...okay.

Blogger Nate April 02, 2013 9:57 AM  

"Oh yeah? Football."

The yanks brought up football sugartits. On Wisconsin?

Try to keep up.

Blogger Nate April 02, 2013 10:03 AM  

Look its very simple. Wisconsin is lilly white. The South has a huge black population.

So yeah... I'm sure there is an IQ difference.

I'm also certain that Wisconsin is one of the 10 crappiest places in the country to live... because it is commie hell on the Pennsylvania scale.

Anonymous DrTorch April 02, 2013 10:11 AM  

"Yeah, he went to face easier competition."

Ladies and Gentlemen...

A prime example of Wisconsin intellect.


Typical Nate, wrong again. Although I do like Wisc: Summer Fest, the Femmes, sailing on Lake Geneva...

As for football Nate, I'm surprised you like it. Seems a little fast and complex for you. I see you more as a tetherball guy.

Blogger redlegben April 02, 2013 10:12 AM  

Wow. I had no idea the Southerners were this deluded about general intelligence. It's not hard to see the difference. Just take the McDonald's drive-thru test. Here's a little more rigorous backing:

Southerns are dumb.

Blogger SarahsDaughter April 02, 2013 10:14 AM  

The yanks brought up football sugartits. On Wisconsin?

He was clearly referencing the 12 Badger hockey players who are members of the 2012-13 All-WCHA Academic Team. ;)

Anonymous Josh April 02, 2013 10:19 AM  

Here's a little more rigorous backing:

The highest correlation with these tests is the percentage of students state wide who take them.

Anonymous . April 02, 2013 10:19 AM  

I had no idea the Southerners were this deluded about general intelligence.

Ya might want to cross reference that with this one, chief:

http://www.census.gov/geo/www/mapGallery/images/black.jpg

Blogger redlegben April 02, 2013 10:27 AM  

In Wisconsin, crew refers to the sport of rowing. In the South, it refers to their momma's hair style or the chain-gang their daddy works on.

Anonymous Josh April 02, 2013 10:38 AM  

Hey...

When was the last time the girlfriend of a big ten qb landed in the SI swimsuit edition?

Anonymous harry12 April 02, 2013 10:39 AM  

redlegben April 02, 2013 4:33 AM
We actually plan on moving to Madison in the next year. It's a great place for zombie apocalypse scenarios. Plenty of water. Lots of white people that will flip the ethnic switch when necessary. The conservative populace is staunch due to the radical leftists. Very small minority population. Quite arable land as well. Intelligence is a good standard deviation above the conservative South.


I took it to be an April Fool's message. ( As I moved to Florida many, many years ago, am I showing my deviation slippage? )

Anonymous Ewens April 02, 2013 10:41 AM  

"Wisconsin is lily white." - Nate, 10:03am

Some parts are and some parts aren't. Visit Milwaukee and see if that view holds true. And by and large the whites in Wisconsin aren't the type you would want to hang around with, either. I was born and raised there and couldn't get away quick enough once I was out of school.

Blogger redlegben April 02, 2013 10:50 AM  

When was the last time the girlfriend of a big ten qb landed in the SI swimsuit edition?

I don't have those details, but Tony Romo (Wisconsinite) dated Jessica Simpson and is now married to a former Miss Missouri. This seems like a pretty silly metric, so I won't hold it against anyone else.

Anonymous Alexander April 02, 2013 10:53 AM  

The South - so dumb that everyone wants to move here...

Newsflash, Red: When a bunch of Texans can make Dallas a more attractive place to live than San Francisco, it's not the Texans displaying questionable intelligence.

Blogger Nate April 02, 2013 10:55 AM  

Ewens..

Almost every county in Mississippi... by itself... has more blacks than the whole state of Wisconsin combined.

Anonymous Alexander April 02, 2013 10:57 AM  

Nate, it's cute when Yankees think they experience vibrancy state-wide, isn't it?

Blogger Nate April 02, 2013 11:05 AM  

Bloody ironic.. I left a zero off... ok so obviously my numbers are very off.

That said.. there are still more blacks in Jackson MS alone than there are in the whole state of wisconsin.

Blogger redlegben April 02, 2013 11:09 AM  

Nate, are you going to concede you brought up football? The fact that the majority of vibrancy is partitioned in one part of the state or not at all is hardly an argument for intelligence. It might actually prove the superior intelligence of said population.

Blogger Nate April 02, 2013 11:13 AM  

And don't even get me started on the Wisconsin Snow Birds. You scum come down here and live for 3 months... and while you're here the public eateries have to take the toilet paper out of the bathrooms... because you worthless pieces of shit steal it. They have to take up all the condiments... they have to take the salt and pepper shakers up... because you worthless pieces of shit steal them. The Churches literally have to suspend their wednesday night suppers... because you worthless pieces of shit pile $20 worth of food onto the plate you paid $2 for... and then ask for a to go box... and fill it so full you can't close the lid.

So sincerely... stay the hell home. We won't miss you. You're the ones that need us.

Locusts. You're pathetic locusts.

Blogger Nate April 02, 2013 11:14 AM  

" The fact that the majority of vibrancy is partitioned in one part of the state or not at all is hardly an argument for intelligence. It might actually prove the superior intelligence of said population."

That was our whole point you moron.

Anonymous Alexander April 02, 2013 11:23 AM  

I believe Red MIGHT be implying that the fact that southerners have blacks living among them in significant numbers is proof in itself that they are less intelligent than their northern counterparts.

In which case, we have finally found the narrator for the latter half of Randy Newman's "Rednecks". Free to be put in a cage...

Blogger redlegben April 02, 2013 11:24 AM  

So...no. No concession on your obsession over football and you are still failing to present any study (like I did) to prove otherwise about the intelligence gap. I just want to clarify your position.

Anonymous cheddarman April 02, 2013 11:31 AM  

Nate,

Speaking of Yankees, I dont see much evidence from your blog that you are a "Southerner." There is no link to Stone Mountain, no quotes from the King James Version of the Holy Bible, no Confederate Battle Flag, and no reference to the greats of Country Music or Southern Rock, including Lynrd Skynrd, The Allman Brothers, Elvis, Tammy Wynette, Waylon Jennings, Wille Nelson, etc.

Although you do have a picture of a distillery house on prominent display, any booze swilling yankee could have the same. I would like to see you make more of an effort to make your blog feel more Southern.

Sincerely

cheddarman

Anonymous Josh April 02, 2013 11:35 AM  

No concession on your obsession over football and you are still failing to present any study (like I did) to prove otherwise about the intelligence gap.

Your study was a list of test scores by state.

Anonymous Alexander April 02, 2013 11:36 AM  

http://lesacreduprintemps19.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/sat-participation-scores-by-state-and-race.pdf

Hey Red, look at that. Mississippi whites scored better in 2000 than their counterparts in Vermont, Maine, New Hampshire, Oregon, New York, Connecticut...

Anonymous Alexander April 02, 2013 11:39 AM  

Of course, we could go round to that age old question: If us southerners are such a drain on the nation, why you willing to kill us to make sure we stay part of it?

Anonymous Herman the German April 02, 2013 11:43 AM  

Josh wrote: If you like southern girls, raise your glasses.

If you don't like southern girls, raise your standards.

---- I have ALWAYS been a fan of wonderful, yummy, delicious G.R.I.T.S.

Girls Raised In The South

Mmnn...HELL, yeah!!

Blogger redlegben April 02, 2013 11:46 AM  

Hey Red, look at that. Mississippi whites scored better in 2000 than their counterparts in Vermont, Maine, New Hampshire, Oregon, New York, Connecticut...

...not WI though. Hmmm. Curiouser and curiouser.

Anonymous Josh April 02, 2013 11:46 AM  

 If us southerners are such a drain on the nation, why you willing to kill us to make sure we stay part of it?

BECAUSE SLAVERY IS BAD YOU RACIST

Anonymous Josh April 02, 2013 11:50 AM  

not WI though. Hmmm. Curiouser and curiouser.

Is the WI score a standard deviation above the average southern white score?

Blogger Nate April 02, 2013 12:00 PM  

Cheddarman.

See that picture on the blog? That's Makers Mark Distillery. It doesn't get more southern than that.

and I suggest you browse the content.

start here.

http://bloggerblaster.blogspot.com/2005/03/short-violent-life-of-css-arkansas-in.html

Anonymous Alexander April 02, 2013 12:00 PM  

Red, doesn't need to be. It is very clear that 1. The North as a whole is not provably 'smarter' on SAT scores than the south and 2. Wisconsin is in the top tier but by no means wiping the floor with the south. Scores for whites fall between 1013 (Indiana) and 1251 (DC). There is not a significant change between regions of the country when one accounts for race.

Ergo, your mocking of dumb southerners is, in fact, mocking poor blacks and hispanics. RACISS!!!!



Blogger Nate April 02, 2013 12:02 PM  

or here

http://bloggerblaster.blogspot.com/2005/02/yankee-treachery-and-alabama-june-11th.html

Blogger redlegben April 02, 2013 12:05 PM  

First, I made no mention of race deviations in my initial statement. Second, I still maintain the intelligence gap with race included based on personal anecdotal evidence and various test score studies. I'll find more if I'm so inclined. In the meantime, I find the drive thru test to be quite indicative. Also the Walmart greeter test.

Blogger Nate April 02, 2013 12:07 PM  

or here

http://bloggerblaster.blogspot.com/2005/07/point-lookout-at-every-turn.html

Blogger Giraffe April 02, 2013 12:17 PM  

But don't go here:

http://bloggerblaster.blogspot.com/2012/01/proving-theory.html

Blogger redlegben April 02, 2013 12:21 PM  

I felt so inclined. I'm waiting on the admission of football obsession.

Southerns are dumb in science. and Southerns are dumb in math.

Blogger Nate April 02, 2013 12:24 PM  

And redlegben is really dumb in statistical analysis.

Blogger Nate April 02, 2013 12:25 PM  

And moron...

"Plus, it's a hard core drinking town, and all my drinking buddies are here. GO BADGERS and ON WISCONSIN!!!"

This is bringing up football.

Blogger redlegben April 02, 2013 12:32 PM  

The Badgers are the mascot of every team for the University of Wisconsin- Madison. They have more than football in WI. Wisconsin is called the badger state. On Wisconsin is the state motto. You can't be this dumb...oh wait, never mind. I found the test scores, you can.

Anonymous Josh April 02, 2013 12:37 PM  

Dude...before you call Nate dumb...you might try challenging Vox to a debate on an intellectually challenging topic...like economics...

Because Nate's done that, and is doing a good job of holding his ground...

Blogger redlegben April 02, 2013 12:39 PM  

...cause that would prove the point that he isn't obsessed with football.

Anonymous Josh April 02, 2013 12:42 PM  

Dude...in the South...football is a religion

Actually, that's incorrect. It's much more important than that.

Blogger Nate April 02, 2013 12:43 PM  

maybe we should compare the political ideologies the two geographical regions have championed to the world.

Libertarianism was literally born in the south. Its roots are the founding principles of the nation... Men like Jefferson... almost all of which were from the South.

Wisconsin on the other hand... gave us Communism.. and Feminism.

Game over bitch.

We win.

Blogger Nate April 02, 2013 12:50 PM  

"...cause that would prove the point that he isn't obsessed with football."

Who claimed I was NOT obsessed with football? I live in freaking Alabama. That's like accusing someone in the vatican of being catholic.

Blogger Nate April 02, 2013 12:52 PM  

"The Badgers are the mascot of every team for the University of Wisconsin- Madison. They have more than football in WI. Wisconsin is called the badger state. On Wisconsin is the state motto. You can't be this dumb...oh wait, never mind. I found the test scores, you can."

So... like Asher... you simply are incapable of admitting you're wrong. Imagine that... a yankee with such an affliction.

Shocking.

Anonymous Alexander April 02, 2013 12:54 PM  

It's all a ruse, Nate. California, New York, Illinois, the entire rust belt... they're apparently self-destructive policies are in fact a brilliant ruse to lull us into a state of complacency. They will then burst forth with even more Progressive!Awesome that will continue to confound us poor southerners.

I mean hell, it takes a special sort of genius to take the literal goldmine breadbasket of California and end up with a net worth in the negative hundred billions.

http://blogs.sacbee.com/capitolalertlatest/2013/03/state-auditor-california-net-worth-at-negative-127-billion.html

If only we could be even more like our intellectual betters!

Anonymous Alexander April 02, 2013 12:55 PM  

On the other hand, I could work on my spelling from time to time...

Blogger redlegben April 02, 2013 12:59 PM  

"Yanks are smarter"
"Oh yeah? Football."
Oh...okay. SD

The yanks brought up football sugartits. On Wisconsin?
Try to keep up. Nate


It seems you have the hard time keeping up. Your answer to Wisconsinites being smarter was football. I know you have some intelligence based on other posts but you sure have a sore spot about Southerners being less intelligent.

I said nothing about politics. I focused solely on intelligence, which I backed up.

Anonymous Sanger April 02, 2013 1:02 PM  

Are we sure they aren't Purple Knights at this point?

Anonymous Josh April 02, 2013 1:12 PM  

I focused solely on intelligence, which I backed up.

No, you haven't.

Your original claim was that Wisconsinites were more intelligent than southern conservatives by a standard deviation. You have not proven that.

Blogger redlegben April 02, 2013 1:18 PM  

I will admit I haven't proved the standard deviation, but I certainly proved the intelligence gap. While the response has been football.

Anonymous Jack Amok April 02, 2013 1:23 PM  

I'm not going to weigh in on whether southron girls or Yankee girls are better looking, because it really doesn't matter as California girls are the prettiest of all. Unfortunately, all the straight guys were too busy watching the girls to keep society from going to hell.

Anonymous Alexander April 02, 2013 1:24 PM  

You have not proved that intelligence gap either. You have proven that Wisconsin is perhaps smarter than the average bear. But that applies to New York, Indiana, and Oregon as much as it does to Georgia and Alabama. At best, we can say your original statement was 1. An exaggeration and 2. Needlessly antagonistic in its specificity.

Which basically means you went off topic to insult a group of people for the sake of it by making a claim against them that you can't back up. What *this* proves is that you're a douche.

Case closed.

Blogger Giraffe April 02, 2013 1:24 PM  

Unfortunately, all the straight guys were too busy watching the girls to keep society from going to hell.

Wait, there are straight guys in California?

Anonymous Skinny Dan April 02, 2013 1:40 PM  

Bielema to the Razorbacks. A pig to the pigs. Arkansas will regret that decision in the not-too-distant future.

Wisconsin is a blue state with some shades of red here and there. The winters SUCK. Introducing even mildly conservative initiatives will bring out hordes of loonie lefties, who will chant and stink up the place for months on end. With all that established, I still like it. Maybe I wouldn't if I hadn't escaped an even bluer state as a young man. The beer is good and so is the bratwurst. So put that in your still and gurgle it.

Anonymous Inane Rambler April 02, 2013 1:59 PM  

"Libertarianism was literally born in the south. Its roots are the founding principles of the nation... Men like Jefferson... almost all of which were from the South."

Err, wrong. You get no points for this answer.

Libertarianism started in New England. What states banned slavery first? Those in New England. Where did the American revolution first start? New England. What side in the ACW fought to preserve the Union then abolish slavery? The side that contained New England.

Just because New England liberalism also spawned modern American liberalism, doesn't mean the South was liberal.

The South was dominated by a slave-owning landed class.

Anonymous Inane Rambler April 02, 2013 2:02 PM  

"because it is commie hell on the Pennsylvania scale."

In fact, PA is so commie that it has some of the least restrictive gun laws in the nation.

So commie that it has a Republican senator and a Republican governor. In short, wrong again.

Anonymous James May April 02, 2013 2:10 PM  

Black folks make up only 6% of Wisc. yet half it's prison population, one of the highest disparities. Meanwhile, racist AZ doesn't make the top 25. As usual, when you want to know what a person thinks, don't look at their lips but their feet.

Anonymous Inigo Montoya April 02, 2013 2:15 PM  

James May:

I don't think that means what you think it means.

Anonymous Josh April 02, 2013 2:27 PM  

Libertarianism started in New England. What states banned slavery first? Those in New England. Where did the American revolution first start? New England. What side in the ACW fought to preserve the Union then abolish slavery? The side that contained New England.

The stupid is strong with this one.

Anonymous Wendy April 02, 2013 2:31 PM  

@Inane Rambler...

/facepalm

Go read some of Nate's blog entries with regards to the ACW. If New England was so libertarian and all, why would they fight a war to force states to stay in their Union? It doesn't matter where the first shots were fired in the Rev War. Nate was referring to the framers of the Constitution.

Mercy, this is so off topic. More on topic: Burquas would be an improvement.

Anonymous Wendy April 02, 2013 2:32 PM  

Do you really think the ACW was about slavery, Inane?

Anonymous mjb April 02, 2013 2:37 PM  

Did I read that right? TJ, the grandfather of the libertarian movement, a proud Virginia southerner, yet the federalists up North were responsible for the libertarian movement??

Of course, the northerners of the 1700s would beat the hell out of the northerners of the late 1800s...

Anonymous cheddarman April 02, 2013 2:44 PM  

Nate,

I stand corrected. I read your post on the CSS Arkansas. You are, indeed, a true son of the South.

sincerely

Cheddarman

Blogger ray April 02, 2013 2:46 PM  

Wisco is the Moo State, why wouldnt cows congregate in Madtown?

i went to walmart yesterday, it looked like a herd of bison w humanoid faces was set at Liberty


Anonymous Geoff April 02, 2013 3:17 PM  

@Big Bill

that was awesome. do it and write it up for national review. they LOVE showing the stupidity of feminism. oh, wait...

Anonymous James May April 02, 2013 3:29 PM  

"Joder" Inigo. If any one wants to know why the North "forced" the South, try reading the Federalist and mouth the word "Balkans" in the mirror. How many frickin' wars to end all wars would there have been?

Anonymous rienzi April 02, 2013 4:00 PM  

Country music station in FT. Myers, FL ran an April Fools joke yesterday morning. DJ came on with an OMG, THEY'VE FOUND H2O IN THE WATER SUPPLY!!!! BE CAREFUL!!!! I was laughing so hard I could hardly stand up straight. But what was even funnier, was that for the rest of the day the station manager came on about every five minutes with apology after apology for the joke. Real serious apologies. Really? If you are so damn stupid that you don't get that joke, you don't deserve anything except to have your radio permanently locked on a PBS station.

Anonymous James May April 02, 2013 5:36 PM  

THERE'S SODIUM IN MY SALT!!! OH GODS BEHIND THE STARS WHY DIDN'T SOMEONE TELL ME!!! HOW LONG HAVE THEY BEEN SLIPPING THAT STUFF IN WITHOUT MY KNOWING IT!!!

SOMEONE PASS ME THE SALTLESS SMELLING SALTS. MAKES ME WANT TO STOP DRINKING IODINE!!!

Anonymous James May April 02, 2013 6:00 PM  

Did you see Jim Hines comment at Locus? If there's a stupider and more PC f-ck and jarhead conformist bigot than Hines in the SF community who would it be?

The irony of adopting the intellectual space of Joseph Goebbels while claiming to hate Joseph Goebbels is too much.

Anonymous Jack Amok April 02, 2013 9:26 PM  

Years ago there even used to be straight men in San Francisco. And Detroit was once a productive town.

Anonymous Big Bill April 08, 2013 12:53 PM  

Hitchens is much more honest in his review of the Thatcher regime.

Thatcher shut down money-losing industries, put all the working male heads of household out of work and subsidized their women to make bastards.

Thatcher fought to join the EC and open English borders to foreign invasion.

Now much of England looks like an alcoholic, out-of-work Detroit crawling with aliens.

Thanks, Maggie.

But conservatives were desperate to appear non-discriminatory and fair. Thatcher was the perfect choice. She was a woman. She made vague male noises. She lowered her speaking voice deliberately to sound mannish.

Just as Carson is the pet Negro of the conservatives and Rubio is the pet Mexican of the conservatives, so Thatcher was the pet woman.

Picking her as PM was just as destructive and as big a confession of failure as picking Rubio and Carson will be ... as picking Obama has been.

Once you have eliminated all your mens' jobs and made them gutless (and junkies, in England's case), why not just die instead of engineering/picking/pimping cheesy female/minority replacements?

Let them pick their own.

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