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Friday, June 21, 2013

Offended by silence

This story of internecine offense-taking should be educational for those who believe that if only they remain are sufficiently nice to people and avoid saying anything negative, they will avoid giving offense to the permanently - and in some cases, professionally - offended:
Two state legislators are accusing former Congressman Anthony Weiner of displaying a “lack of moral courage” in the face of what they slammed as a “homophobic, misogynistic slur” made by a voter referring to their chosen candidate: City Council Speaker Christine Quinn. And they want him to apologize.

The offense occurred in The Washington Post, which published a lengthy story Thursday on the mayor’s race that included this scene that described Mr. Weiner’s interaction with a voter on the campaign trail:

    “You a registered Democrat?” he asked an elderly woman wheeling a shopping cart by him.

    “I am,” she said. “And I’m not voting for uh, what’s her name? The dyke.”

    “Okay. I just need you to sign the petition to get me on the ballot,” said Weiner, who then noticed the incredulous reaction of a reporter and added, “and you really shouldn’t talk that way about people.”

    “Oh, I’m sorry,” the woman said.

    “It’s okay,” Weiner responded. “It’s not your fault.”

The response left Assemblywoman Deborah Glick and State Senator Brad Hoylman–who have both endorsed Ms. Quinn’s campaign–seething.

“We are appalled by the account in the Washington Post of Anthony Weiner’s unacceptable response to a prospective voter’s homophobic, misogynistic slur in reference to Christine Quinn,” they wrote in a statement Thursday. “Weiner’s response to this blatant display of homophobia is completely inappropriate and extremely alarming. There is nothing ‘okay’ about homophobia and it’s never ‘okay’ to condone bias-based slurs or hate speech of any kind.”

They argued that such language was indicative of the larger challenges faced by female and openly gay political candidates.

“The voter’s use of the term demonstrates the challenges women candidates and lesbians in particular face, and Weiner’s failure to swiftly and firmly condemn her language demonstrates his lack of moral courage,” they added. “We demand an immediate apology from Mr. Weiner on behalf of LGBT and women New Yorkers.”
The fascist pinkshirts are not merely speech police, they are totalitarian thought police.  They are the very sort of people of whom George Orwell warned.  It's not enough to leave them alone, because if you merely happen to show insufficient public enthusiasm for causes they consider morally imperative, they will attack you even more ferociously than those who openly oppose them.  They are the enemies of free speech, and more than that, they absolutely loathe the very idea of human freedom.

The reason the pinkshirts are always seeking apologies is because they view them, correctly, as public rituals of submission.  This is why it is a massive mistake to ever apologize to the monsters or to give them any ground whatsoever.  Stand your ground and they will fade away for the time being, (although they will lurk around and strike again the moment they detect any weakness), retreat and they will press forward with alacrity.

Remember that is always about power with these people.  It concerns power and nothing else. Note how not even being a high profile member of Team Clinton, (which those who know anything about DC are aware is not exactly unsympathetic to dykes), is enough to protect the left-wing Weiner from attacks on this front.  Being offended, or better yet, falsely claiming to feel threatened, is nothing more than a rhetorical tactic for these people, and therefore is best met with a rhetorical response.

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Anonymous Daniel June 21, 2013 1:10 PM  

Wait a minute. It's now homophobic to keep a Weiner out of a dyke? What?

Blogger jamsco June 21, 2013 1:12 PM  

I'm in agreement that it would be a mistake for Weiner to apologize.

Anonymous Daniel June 21, 2013 1:17 PM  

Jamsco, do you think Glick and Hoylman ought to apologize for characterizing Weiner's response as extremely alarming and inappropriate?

Do you think it was inappropriate of him to correct the woman on her use of the term "dyke?"

Blogger Tank June 21, 2013 1:18 PM  

And I didn't think I could possibly be sympathetic towards Weiner.

There ya go.

Blogger jamsco June 21, 2013 1:19 PM  

"Jamsco, do you think Glick and Hoylman ought to apologize for characterizing Weiner's response as extremely alarming and inappropriate?"

Yes, but good luck with that.

"Do you think it was inappropriate of him to correct the woman on her use of the term "dyke?" "

No, although I probably would have done it another way. Like without press there.

Blogger The Aardvark June 21, 2013 1:20 PM  

"The reason the pinkshirts are always seeking apologies is because they view them, correctly, as public rituals of submission." VD

"Footfall" by Niven and Pournelle: The elephantine aliens would place their foot on your head while you were prone to show their dominant status.

Anonymous JS June 21, 2013 1:22 PM  

"Being offended, or better yet, falsely claiming to feel threatened, is nothing more than a rhetorical tactic for these people..."

That's why they almost always claim "death threats" if they get bad PR.

It's like the final arrow in their shame-quiver. How dare you subject them to death-threats, you bullies!

Blogger Conan the Cimmerian, King of Aquilonia June 21, 2013 1:23 PM  

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Blogger Conan the Cimmerian, King of Aquilonia June 21, 2013 1:23 PM  

Bow before them and be their slaves.

After all they are offended.

Was it unintentional carelessness, or careless intentionalness, careful unintentionalness, or intentional carefullessness?

Anonymous VD June 21, 2013 1:24 PM  

Keep in mind, as you read this, that Christine Quinn belong to several organizations that use the word "Dyke" in the title. It's all about power and control.

Blogger Giraffe June 21, 2013 1:26 PM  

(which those who know anything about DC are aware is not exactly unsympathetic to dykes),

I think this language is indicative of larger challenges faced by female and openly gay candidates. I hereby firmly and somewhat swiftly condemn vox's use of the word "dyke" and demand he write an apology.

Blogger Joe A. June 21, 2013 1:34 PM  

There is nothing inherently homophobic or misogynistic in her word choice. I'm sure it was quite casual and harmless, as would be obvious to any non-idiot.

Anonymous A Schulemann June 21, 2013 1:34 PM  

VD: I thought you were a fan of using shame as a tool for social cohesion?   Or is it just when it’s used for social cohesion you approve of?

Anonymous Josh June 21, 2013 1:35 PM  

I have Dutch ancestors and I am offended by the improper use of the term dyke.

Anonymous dh June 21, 2013 1:38 PM  

Keep in mind, as you read this, that Christine Quinn belong to several organizations that use the word "Dyke" in the title. It's all about power and control.

I was just going to ask that. Dyke isn't a slur. It's a helpful descriptor. Both persons immediately knew who the the other was talking about.

Anonymous Stilicho June 21, 2013 1:40 PM  

Dyke lobby hates Weiner...

how didn't we see that coming?

Blogger Cogitans Iuvenis June 21, 2013 1:41 PM  

This is delicious. The overuse of the word misyogny has now grown to the point that a democratic voter, a women no less, can be accused of misyogny.

Considering that she is an elderly women, Weiner should turn around and accuse his detractors of beingunsympathetic to the elderly and therefore gerontophobist.

Blogger Conan the Cimmerian, King of Aquilonia June 21, 2013 1:43 PM  

Giraffe June 21, 2013 1:26 PM

Here, here. I second Giraffe's condemnation.
We know Vox believes men created civilization (which is not true, obviously it is women that did), so we know that he is implying that women that happen to love other women (in a truly wonderful, healthy expression of love) are actually less civilized and, thus, subhuman.

Apologize.

Anonymous Move Zig June 21, 2013 1:46 PM  

I wonder if ostracizing their own, as they have been doing, like those guys in the SFWA they were crucifying for using the term "Lady", will eventually erode their support. Vox, I believe you said something to the effect that they like shooting themselves in the foot.
I guess that remark could have come from a commenter. I don't remember which.In any case, I had wondered what you/commenter had meant by that.
Now I think I'm seeing it.

Blogger Conan the Cimmerian, King of Aquilonia June 21, 2013 1:46 PM  

Jamsco,

Join us in demanding that Vox apologize.
People's feelings have been hurt.

Anonymous Toby Temple June 21, 2013 1:47 PM  

PC crowd: We are appalled by the account in the Washington Post of your unacceptable response to a prospective voter’s homophobic, misogynistic slur in reference to Christine Quinn. You must apologize!

Weiner: Um... Imma sorry?

That should piss them off some more.

Anonymous Sigyn June 21, 2013 1:47 PM  

At first, I was like "Huh?"

But then I was like "OHHHHH."

This exchange must have been some kind of covert Misogyny Squad business. Why else would he have said "it's okay, it's not your fault" to an elderly woman who used a word that lesbians use to describe themselves?

It's like a super-secret handshake or something. There are Reds under all the beds!

/leftardconspiracytheorist

Anonymous Russell June 21, 2013 1:52 PM  

The purging of the inner party is really getting into gear.

I predict as things at the Federal level continue to spin out of control, the purging of "not-PC enough" members will increase.


Blogger RobertT June 21, 2013 1:57 PM  

...No, although I probably would have done it another way. Like without press there...

Well ... I feel absolutely no responsibility for words that come out of someone else's mouth. If they personally offend me, I'll deal with it, but life is complicated enough without having to play diction police.

Anonymous Salt June 21, 2013 1:59 PM  

Weiner should have let out a "squee" at the woman's dyke remark.

Anonymous Loki of Asgard June 21, 2013 2:01 PM  

You will never hear this:

"On behalf of myself and right-minded people everywhere, I have to say I'm sorry.

"I'm sorry I didn't get offended on behalf of my political opponent. I realize she's not obligated to get offended on my behalf whenever someone makes a filthy joke about my name, but I forgot that as she is a member of a class superior to mine, I am supposed to defend her even from her own supporters.

"I'm sorry you were offended by a little old lady using the word 'dyke'. You would have no problem whatsoever with her cussing me out using every naughty word in the English language, but for her to describe someone using the very same word that someone uses to defend herself is unthinkable.

"I'm sorry you were offended by my preferring to correct a little old lady politely, rather than humiliating her by tearing into her in public. Forgive me for having respect for women. I'll remember not to make that mistake in my first debate with my opponent.

"More than anything else, I'm sorry you decided to hyperventilate about something this small. It tells you something about the society we live in, where the Attorney General gets a pass for selling guns to Mexican drug lords, but I get torn a new one for reflexively saying 'it's okay' when someone says 'I'm sorry'.

"And by the way, you're welcome."

Anonymous Randy M June 21, 2013 2:08 PM  

What's hilarious is that this woman is voting for the lesbian in question, and yet they accuse her of homophobia.
It would be belaboring the obvious to say it is all about thought control.

Anonymous JartStar June 21, 2013 2:11 PM  

Remember that is always about power with these people. It concerns power and nothing else.

This is why libertarians are forever condemned to be on the defensive from these people and will never win. By definition libertarians do not want power over other people or to take control of institutions, which means they concede the institutions because they abandon the battlefield before the progressives arrive, and they are focused on people having power over them personally and do not think of the group first.

As much as libertarians understand evil, and the inherent danger of large institutions of any stripe, it's been my experience they fail to understand how the majority of people want large institutions and will settle for bad ones rather than none.

Anonymous E. PERLINE June 21, 2013 2:12 PM  

So he agreed that she was a dyke. If this was inaccurate her defenders should prove that charge was erronious, not ask for an apology.

If you are physically handicapped, don't mind in the least if you are called a cripple. If you are strongly driven don't mind in the least if you are called a fanatic. By becoming impervious to insult you will be the strongest person in the world.

Anonymous Jill June 21, 2013 2:18 PM  

I don't see why people can't just all get along. Remember, if you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all. Simple rules for a better world!

Anonymous Noah B. June 21, 2013 2:19 PM  

Apparently, Wiener should have immediately order his security staff to detain the non-compliant voter until Homeland Security could intercept and route her to the appropriate neural retraining facility.

Anonymous Erik June 21, 2013 2:25 PM  

"Keep in mind, as you read this, that Christine Quinn belong to several organizations that use the word "Dyke" in the title. It's all about power and control."

Any specific organizations? I tried several queries like christine quinn dyke organization -weiner and the closest I got was this and this (signup for the Dyke March).

Blogger LP 999/Eliza June 21, 2013 2:27 PM  

Wow, what an amusing but sad state of affairs.

Anonymous Anonagain June 21, 2013 2:27 PM  

Weiner has nothing against dykes - he's married to one. Just your typical Leftist family - a Jewish perv married to a Muslim dyke.

Anonymous paradox June 21, 2013 2:50 PM  

If the dyke doesn't want to be offended, she should choose something other than sex acts with women to self-identify. In other words she should keep her bedroom sh*t to herself.

Blogger Retrenched June 21, 2013 3:04 PM  

The right to not be offended means the right to police the words, thoughts and behavior of everyone around you. This is what the leftists are asserting. Absolute control.

And it never, ever, ever ends. There will always be new hoops to jump through, always new outrages that need dealt with, in order to prove that you are a good person and not a racist/sexist/homophobe/bigot.

Absolute, strict obedience to their whims is the only way to avoid their wrath. Not worth it.

Anonymous rycamor June 21, 2013 3:05 PM  

Even Orwell could not have imagined the bizarre state our society finds itself in now.

Anonymous Good Times, All, Good Times June 21, 2013 3:11 PM  

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/22/us/for-episcopal-churchs-leader-a-sermon-leads-to-more-controversy.html?_r=1&

On May 12, Bishop Jefferts Schori preached in All Saints Church in the town of Steenrijk. Curaçao is part of the Episcopal Church’s small Diocese of Venezuela, and Bishop Jefferts Schori was making a pastoral call to a distant congregation. Her text was Acts 16:16-34, which includes the story of a slave woman and fortuneteller whom Paul encounters in Philippi, Macedonia.

This story has historically been read as a tale of exorcism, in which Paul delivers the woman from some sort of indwelling spirit — or, alternatively, strikes a blow for monotheism against local beliefs in plural gods. But as Bishop Jefferts Schori interpreted the passage, Paul was guilty of failing to value diversity, to see the slave girl’s beautiful “difference.”

“Paul is annoyed at the slave girl,” Bishop Jefferts Schori preached. “She’s telling the same truth Paul and others claim for themselves. But Paul is annoyed, perhaps for being put in his place, and he responds by depriving her of her gift of spiritual awareness. Paul can’t abide something he won’t see as beautiful or holy, so he tries to destroy it.”

Anonymous DonReynolds June 21, 2013 3:24 PM  

I will never understand why the pinkshirts even bother to act surprised when their political opponents do not completely agree with them. Isn't that why they are political opponents? Surely, if they agreed with each other, there would be little reason for both sides to run a candidate.

I agree with Vox. NEVER even agree that they get to define what is permissible speech. NEVER agree that what they find offensive is even annoying.

Blogger hadley June 21, 2013 3:42 PM  

For heaven's sake, Weiner is appearing at ultra-Orthodox Jewish venues in NYC, and many of them do not even consider Gentile real human beings with a soul. And their attitudes toward homosexuals are even more extreme.

What is Weiner supposed to do, go berate them because they follow the teachings of Maimonides and the Tanya?

Feh!

Blogger tz June 21, 2013 3:45 PM  

Just after your post on Feedly (replacing Google Reader) was this:

http://consumerist.com/2013/06/21/kickstarter-pulls-controversial-seduction-guide-but-only-after-its-been-funded/

Anyone else old enough to remember the Dick VanDyke show?

There's just one thing for the pinkshirts to do (and I would hope everyone would remember Gamma Rabbits sartorial choices). Go and burn a giant greek Lambda on that elderly lady who signed the petition's lawn while wearing pink sheets.

Anonymous rubberducky June 21, 2013 3:56 PM  

They are thought police, alright, and ready to wield the power of the state to silence and to punish. That dyke candidate, Christine Quinn, wrote to NYU as the Speaker of the NYC Council demanding that they terminate the lease of their tenant, Chick-Fil-A, because Chick-Fil-A's religious owner voiced biblical based opposition to gay marriage during a small time radio interview in Georgia.

These types are thugs, they are cultural aggressors, angrily intolerant of any social view outside their own.

Blogger ajw308 June 21, 2013 3:57 PM  

Do you think it was inappropriate of him to correct the woman on her use of the term "dyke?"
Depends, was the woman a dyke herself? Cause it is OK for blacks to use the word "nigger" and homos to use the word "queer" and she was voting for her.

I see this as the warren attempting to turn on one of their own. One who they thought may be vulnerable because he's a bad bad man.

Blogger tz June 21, 2013 3:59 PM  

@JetStar. The trick to being a libertarian is to show the inherent contradiction and turn the power back upon itself. Expose the contradiction. Black-knight. Shove every petty rule and regulation down their throat.

Or laugh when Obama is simply using the same powers Bush did. Out loud and derisively. Like I do with my fellow Catholics, when I point out they gave a holy thing (the sacrament of holy matrimony) to something more evil than dogs, the pearl of healing the sick to something worse than swine, and stand there wondering why it trampled their rights and is attacking them.

To those who were upset over the malicious prosecution of Aaron Swartz, I point out the innumerable other examples, but they were gun dealers, tax protesters, small businessmen, or others they didn't worry about. Or the converse for those upset at the attempt to restrict guns after Sandyhook - they never worried about all the other tyrannies. It ends up "You gave away my liberty, I'm just returning the favor". But with a coda saying "Why don't we all agree to protect each other's liberties, even if we personally don't care or like them, so that everyone will protect the liberties you or I cherish".

Blogger Bike Bubba June 21, 2013 4:11 PM  

The question that occurs to me is whether there are any Democratic politicians in New York City without documented sexual perversions.

Anonymous Hunsdon June 21, 2013 4:15 PM  

It would have been perfect if Weiner had just smirked and said, "Nigger, please."

Anonymous Porky June 21, 2013 4:16 PM  

Weiner will win.

OpenID Bob June 21, 2013 4:21 PM  

Is this post about lesbians or muslims? Is there a difference?

Anonymous Robert in Arabia June 21, 2013 4:32 PM  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDXQsnkuBCM 10:10 NO Pressure

Anonymous Laz June 21, 2013 4:47 PM  

"...Christine Quinn belong to several organizations that use the word "Dyke" in the title."

Do you have a link? Google isn't being very helpful.

Anonymous FP June 21, 2013 5:02 PM  

Was it Paula Deen? She just apologized for using the dreaded n-word. The media is just shocked or something.

Blogger Retrenched June 21, 2013 5:08 PM  

@ tz

So now another outlet has caved to pressure from totalitarian feminists.

How much longer will it be before feminists go after Wordpress and Blogger? Or Twitter and Youtube? Or book publishers?

How much longer before disagreeing with feminist theory or talking about the red pill is deemed "verbal violence" against women, punishable with fines and/or prison?

Will men, as a group, ever stand up for themselves and defend the legitimacy of the male point of view? (Not so much that it's "right", I mean their right to even have a point of view at all.) Or will they just keep caving to one feminazi demand after another, until all of their words and deeds are judged according to the feminine imperative, and severely punished if they are not found to be in compliance and agreement with it?

Anonymous Garuda1 June 21, 2013 5:25 PM  

Regarding Chick-fil-A controversy; I work for chick-fil-a and the whole uproar actually resulted in record-breaking sales (due in part to Huckabee admonishing the public to support us). Even the supposed "gay protests" that we were being threatened with turned out to be a handful of gays who ended up buying lunch with us anyway. The whole thing was actually great for the business. Guess the gays underestimate the power of our chicken (you never see the africans threaten to stop eating here).

Anonymous Anonagain June 21, 2013 5:39 PM  

The more they are appeased, the more vile they become. Leftists are fascist cunts who will never stop until there is nothing left to destroy. And everyone who is cowed by their bullying and coercion is a spineless little worm and a traitor to their own cause.

Blogger JDC June 21, 2013 5:59 PM  

One thing I miss about living in the South is Chick-fil-A. Waffle House, not so much. Unless one likes the smell of vomit and maple syrup.

Anonymous JW June 21, 2013 6:11 PM  

Paula Deen is being punished. The food network is not renewing her contract.

Anonymous Daniel June 21, 2013 6:17 PM  

Was it Paula Deen? She just apologized for using the dreaded n-word.

Yeah. For calling a bank robber who held a gun to her head in 1962 or whatever a nigger, and admitting it in a deposition to defend her brother's right to own a business. Stupid boomers. Vietnam was far, far too kind to the ranks of their more enlightened members.

Blogger TontoBubbaGoldstein June 21, 2013 6:29 PM  

I'd have more respect for Weiner if he had simply said, "Thank you." to the lady and left it at that.

Anonymous Mike M. June 21, 2013 6:34 PM  

The problem was that the people who needed it weren't sent to Vietnam.

And I'm becoming more and more convinced that you never apologize. Counterattack.

Anonymous Big Stu June 21, 2013 6:51 PM  

Josh -"I have Dutch ancestors and I am offended by the improper use of the term dyke."

Comment of the week, or month or something.

Mainly because this will bee entirely lost on the hard-of-thinking.

Anonymous Brandon June 21, 2013 7:27 PM  

Gen. 19:1-5 will be repeated in the future of this United Torah Empire....AKA USA.

Blogger TontoBubbaGoldstein June 21, 2013 7:33 PM  

Josh -"I have Dutch ancestors and I am offended by the improper use of the term dyke."

Stick a weiner in it, Hans.


Blogger TontoBubbaGoldstein June 21, 2013 7:42 PM  

@ Daniel

Paula Dean also reportedly said:

“Well what I would really like is a bunch of little niggers to wear long-sleeve white shirts, black shorts and black bow ties, you know in the Shirley Temple days, they used to tap dance around,” Deen is accused of saying in the lawsuit. “Now, that would be a true Southern wedding wouldn’t it? But we can’t do that because the media would be on me about that.”

She should have resigned before Food Network *heh!* canned her. Growing up in south Georgia, there is NO excuse for not to have used the proper terms: pickannies or niglets.

Anonymous log June 21, 2013 7:42 PM  

VD: I thought you were a fan of using shame as a tool for social cohesion? Or is it just when it’s used for social cohesion you approve of?

Pretty much.

Blogger TontoBubbaGoldstein June 21, 2013 7:47 PM  

*Weiner

Capital "W", dammit.

Anonymous Bat21 June 21, 2013 8:26 PM  

On a related note, FoodTV won't be renewing Paula Deens contract because she said a bad word. (Nigger)

Blogger AdognamedOp June 21, 2013 9:31 PM  

Libs eat their own. The fat, dorito munchin pig Quinn has already been declared the next queen of the hive; replacing the whiny rat, Bloomberg.
Drone Weiner stepped into the mayoral race and got somewhat favourable poll numbers so they had to eliminate the threat. When he announced he was running, the local media presented the story as a gimmick.

Listening to Bloombergs whiny voice at press conferences for three terms was bad enough. Quinn's voice is even more high pitched and twice as annoying. Anyone who's heard her drone on knows what I'm talking about.

Anonymous zen0 June 21, 2013 9:41 PM  

log June 21, 2013 7:42 PM

VD: I thought you were a fan of using shame as a tool for social cohesion? Or is it just when it’s used for social cohesion you approve of?

Pretty much.


You two mutual masturbaters need to understand the differences between mocking stupidity and demanding silence.

Keep talking as long as you want.

Blogger Justthisguy June 21, 2013 9:53 PM  

@ Good Times: This is one of the reasons I attend a "schismatic" Anglican church, run out of AMIA, or Anglican Mission in the Americas. It was started by black Africans to bring the gospel to the white heathens over here. A lot of people don't know that most Anglicans in the world are non-white. What I said to the last strange nigger I met in a men's room: "How do you do, Your Grace?" (He was my Archbishop at the time.) It's a pretty traditionally orthodox (small o) church, aside from the really annoying modern "music."

Oh, speaking of schisms: Did y'all know that the congregation of Christ Episcopal Church in Savannah, the oldest Anglican church in GA, has been forced to leave their church by the ECUSA because of sticking to sound doctrine? Those dickheads and dykes in ECUSA sued them in civil court, and won, to grab the building and grounds. Heck, John Wesley himself preached there, and was rector for a while! Suing one's brothers should be the last resort, not the first. I think that's in one of the Epistles.

What particularly chaps my cracker ass about that is that Christ Episcopal is the custodian of the canonical recipe for Chatham Artillery Punch, the most dangerous drink ever devised by Man, for Men!

Anonymous Scintan June 21, 2013 10:00 PM  

Paula Deen is being punished. The food network is not renewing her contract.

The Food Network used to be daily viewing for me. When they got rid of Emeril and went to a bunch of non-chefs, I started watching less. When they started ruining the Iron Chef show by making the American abomination version, I started watching less. When they started pandering by putting on a bunch of clowns like Fieri, the Ace of Cakes stuff, etc..., I really cut back.

Now, with this nonsense, I'll probably stop watching it altogether. Between the PBS stations and some of the other stations with cooking shows, there's really not a need for any one specific cooking channel, so TFN can just become a viewing non-option.

Anonymous zen0 June 21, 2013 10:18 PM  

@ Good Times: But as Bishop Jefferts Schori interpreted the passage, Paul was guilty of failing to value diversity, to see the slave girl’s beautiful “difference.”

Wow. The wolf's don't even have to bother with the Sheep's Clothing anymore.

Some nobody lecturing St. Paul. Unbelievable.
So much chutzpa.....hmmmmmm......

Anonymous A Visitor June 21, 2013 10:35 PM  

I would've said to him, "Eat **** you limp ****!" and walked away. Epic win.

Anonymous Garuda1 June 21, 2013 11:21 PM  

@zen0 Exactly. As I've read VD over the past few years I've become much more aware of this destructive Churchianity (hat tip to Vox and the Ilk for the lessons). Seeing feminized pastors and sermons, as well as gays and women aggressively invade, has completely changed my perception of many denominations. Tragic, really...in all of its rabbit-laden glory.

Anonymous zen0 June 21, 2013 11:44 PM  

@ A Visitor:
I would've said to him, "Eat **** you limp ****!" and walked away. Epic win.

It would be better if someone could bring him back to the passages at hand and ask: " So what happened to your Elder Brother Paul after this happened" (torture, imprisonment) and " So, do you think that this was just punishment?"

If he says yes, torture and imprison him, charging him to convert his jailers or repent.
If he says no, ask why.

This, however, would require a working knowledge of the passages under discussion.
(I think that qualifies as a "disclaimer")

Anonymous zen0 June 21, 2013 11:48 PM  

Tragic, really...in all of its rabbit-laden glory.

It gets more obvious everyday.

Why, it is almost as if all Christendom itself was under some kind of epic Judgement.

Who coulda seen that comin'!

Anonymous Razoraid June 22, 2013 12:22 AM  

I love it when these progressive intellectuals blow a fuse and reveal their true colors. Pure Authoritarian ideology at its worst.

Anonymous Garuda1 June 22, 2013 12:37 AM  

Why, it is almost as if all Christendom itself was under some kind of epic Judgement.

Who coulda seen that comin'!


IMO, the fascinating part is how easily so many have fallen. Would it be accurate to assume that the road for progressivism into the church is paved with womyn?

Anonymous Garuda1 June 22, 2013 12:43 AM  

I love it when these progressive intellectuals blow a fuse and reveal their true colors. Pure Authoritarian ideology at its worst.

I like to go for the two-fer by using said news to beat my leftist colleagues around the debate table.

Hat-trick when that starts a chain reaction of all surrounding leftists. Seeing their contorted, furious expressions as they all yapped was much like staring down a very noisy pack of chihuahuas.

Anonymous wcu June 22, 2013 9:55 AM  

Seeing Paula Deen get attacked by her worshipfulness Michelle OBama a few years ago for her serving up fattening southern food was a head scratcher...but now I get it, older white southern woman = easy target...and racisss! Doublebad Paula Deen had it coming to her...

Anonymous Laz June 22, 2013 2:45 PM  

"...Christine Quinn belong to several organizations that use the word "Dyke" in the title."

Still waiting on links(s)

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