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Wednesday, June 19, 2013

Setting the record straight

Two days ago, I referenced one of our previous game innovations in discussing the latest one, which naturally inspired the sort of individual who firmly believes their ideological opponents cannot possibly have ever accomplished anything of note to leap in with his ignorant version of events:
Vox: It will probably surprise no one to discover that the primary response of the forward-thinking futurists was to declare their opinion that First Sword was unlikely to sell enough ebooks to matter one way or the other, as if the universal adoption of 3D hardware texture-mapped acceleration that Big Chilly and I introduced in Rebel Moon, and the 16-bit color we introduced in Rebel Moon Rising, had anything at all to do with how many copies of those games were sold. 

Obvious: It's really too bad that the game POD had full MMX support and was released a full six months before Rebel Moon Rising.
First of all, if one was to go by the publicly available information from IGN and GameSpy - which is wrong, by the way - one would learn that RMR was released by GT Interactive on December 22, 1996, which is obviously before POD was released by UbiSoft on February 28, 1997. But the fact is that both games were actually released together for the first time on the same CD by Intel on January 8, 1997. However, the following YouTube video should make it clear that not only were both of us incorrect, the entire MMX-related discussion is irrelevant as I'd forgotten that Big Chilly and I actually introduced both 16-bit color and dynamic lighting in Rebel Moon, which was released as part of the original VL bus 3D Blaster package back in November 1995.



I don't know what possesses these people with the desperate need to denigrate everything I do, but history tends to render their efforts pointless. I have little doubt that if in-game digital sales are successful and become standard in the industry, the anklebiters of tomorrow will do their best to deny that I had anything to do with it, let alone came up with the concept. Anyhow, this sort of thing suffices to indicate how the Left's revisionist instincts penetrate even to the pettiest micro level.

I was wondering how I'd managed to forget that we had the advanced lighting model in our first game, and I realized that I tend to think of the dynamic lighting in terms of the laser effects.  The colored lighting is so much more effective when the lasers light up the corridors as they fly back and forth, that since the first one was lacking that particular application of it, I assumed that we'd been still using the same 8-bit palette that everyone else had been until then. 

One bit of trivia that might be interesting; we were also the very first to discover the reason for the huge gap between expectations for MMX and the disappointing results.  And by very first, I mean that I was the one who had to call Intel and give the guy managing the project the bad news.  We couldn't figure out why the game was running at about one-quarter the Intel-estimated frame rates when Big Chilly decided to simplify things as much as possible and simply blit a black rectangle.

I still remember his eyes narrowing in suspicion as he stared at the results, pointed to them, and said, "now why does that number look familiar?"  It was because it was precisely the same as the speed limit of the PCI bus.  It quickly became clear that Intel had produced a very fast CPU capable of processing graphics at four times the rate that the communications bus on the graphics card could accomodate them.  This had a huge effect on everything, because it meant that we couldn't use the higher resolutions for which we'd been creating the art, but had to back it all down to the same resolution we'd used previously with the Creative Labs card.

The game still looked pretty enough and got a decent review from CGW, but it wasn't anywhere nearly as graphically beautiful as it should have been, even considering that it was a 2.5D game.

And that wasn't our only contribution to the MMX project.  I was also responsible for killing what was intended as Intel's original marketing slogan for it: "On the 'Net/Off the 'Net".  But that is a story for another time.  And on a tangentially related note that no one but Big Chilly will grasp the connection, SWEET BILLY GATES but the insanity of certain console makers truly knows no bounds.

"The new Oddworld game New 'n' Tasty is coming to every platform in the current generation and even the next generation but not the Xbox One. It's not that developer Oddworld Inhabitants isn't porting the game. It's not that they hate Microsoft or the Xbox One. No, it's that Microsoft has taken an anti-indie dev stance with the Xbox One. While the game industry is moving to Kickstarter and self-funded shops, Microsoft has decided all developers must have a publisher to grace their console."

This Xbox One launch is reminding me more and more of the Sega Dreamcast. 

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90 Comments:

Anonymous Oblivious June 19, 2013 1:50 PM  

YOU DIDN'T BUILD THAT!!!

Anonymous dh June 19, 2013 1:56 PM  

The game still looked pretty enough and got a decent review from CGW, but it wasn't anywhere nearly as graphically beautiful as it should have been, even considering that it was a 2.5D game

Do you remember your target framerate and resolution?

What an interesting path. Why did you get out of FPS/3D and into whatever you did next?

Anonymous Log June 19, 2013 2:00 PM  

Well, books were available for free in Ultima Online, but I guess the novel idea of selling them rather than giving them away is yours.

Anonymous drose June 19, 2013 2:04 PM  

Xbox one is going to be a disaster of biblical proportions. It's getting tons of gamer feedback and I have yet to find anything positive about it. The parodies have already started:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuoFNwctizg

Even Playstation is mocking them:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6eOa812mYA

It's like this infernal device was designed by the government and Microsoft to spy on us and decided to make it play games as an afterthought.
The hell with Xbox. I hope this destroys them.

Anonymous Outlaw X June 19, 2013 2:10 PM  

Man Vox that is way over my visual acuity. Did you code that? I have problems flying a Jap Zero in Aces High.

Anonymous Noah B. June 19, 2013 2:14 PM  

"It was because it was precisely the same as the speed limit of the PCI bus."

I'm glad these things happen to other people too and not just me.

Blogger The Deuce June 19, 2013 2:14 PM  

The thing that's really getting the XBox One hammered is the restrictions on trading used games. On the other hand, if you think about it a little bit, you realize that Microsoft is stuck in a sort of catch-22 in that regard.

On the one hand, they're setting up a Steam-like download service, where you can buy a game once, and from then on you gain the unlimited right to download that same game again, using your account, on any machine anywhere.

So far, so good. The problem is, unlike Steam, the XBox One also uses disc-based games, so Microsoft had to figure out a way to work those into the system. They opted to have it so that buying a game on disc also gets you unlimited download rights to it on any machine, making it that a disc serves more as a ticket for unlimited copies of a game, rather than just a single copy of a game itself.

Again, that all sounds nice and convenient... until you consider the implications for trading used games. They can't have it so that if you lend your friend a game, he also gets unlimited download rights to it. Most people would just get permanent and unlimited copies of the game for free that way, and the developers and publishers wouldn't make any money. At the same time, putting in controls to prevent that from happening wrecks the ability to sell used games, or even let a friend borrow one, like we've been able to take for granted with every freaking console in the history of consoles, and is basically a suicide move.

Not sure what MS should've done here. Perhaps they should've just kept the disc-based and download-based markets entirely separate, so that when you buy on disc you don't get unlimited download rights, and when you buy online you don't get the ability to just lend a game to your friend or sell on ebay. The only other options I can think of would be to not have disc-based games available for download in the first place, or to exit the disc-based market altogether and go download-only.

Blogger The Deuce June 19, 2013 2:24 PM  

As for requiring a publisher, that's just gratuitously stupid on MS's part. Their relative openness to cultivating indie developers in previous generations is a big part of what gave them their niche and allowed them to break into the console industry as a major player in the first place. And now they think they can do a complete 180 on that without suffering for it, just as it's becoming the next big thing, no less?

Blogger Kentucky Packrat June 19, 2013 2:27 PM  

Number One Son sold his first PS3 a long time ago, after picking up a total of one game. He's been a loyal Xbox360 guy ever since (finally picking up another PS3 more as a BluRay player that also plays games).

He's 100% PS4. Solidly, utterly, and unflinchingly PS4, to the point that he's looking at buying PC versions of games that need to have their save files hacked to come off of XBox 360.

Personally, I suspect that the AppleTV 4 with an open app store and MFi support, and the resulting Android clones, will absolutely cream all three consoles in terms of profit per unit and total profit. And Apple will still consider the AppleTV a hobby.

Anonymous MarkP June 19, 2013 2:33 PM  

Rebel Moon had the best graphics that stack, by far.

Blogger The Deuce June 19, 2013 2:38 PM  

And don't get me started on their decision to not even *attempt* backwards compatibility. Again, that was a big draw on the 360 over the PS3, and they think they can just abandon it without suffering for it, at the same time that they're kicking out indie developers and trashing the used game market?

I realize that they're going from a PowerPC to an Intel CPU this time, which complicates things, but they made the opposite transition last time, and they still did what they had to do to get backwards compatibility working. Besides, all three systems are still DirectX-based, and the really heavy lifting is handled by the GPU in modern games, so it shouldn't be too incredibly difficult. They don't need to emulate all the game's instructions. They just need to translate the calls to the DirectX interface and the bit of game logic handled by the CPU, right?

Anonymous Anonymous June 19, 2013 2:40 PM  

Don't forget the flipside to this leftist phenomenon: crediting achievements to people who never or only marginally deserved it. Like George Washington Carver, Al Gore (internet) muslims (math), or Obama (peace prize).

~E

Anonymous Obvious June 19, 2013 2:43 PM  

I wonder how many blog posts dedicated to me I can rack up.

Anonymous RINO June 19, 2013 2:44 PM  

I've preferred Xbox ever since the original came out. I hope Xbox One fails in spectacular fashion though there are enough idiots to render that outcome unlikely. The always online DRM requiring you to log in every 24 hours is creepy enough before we even get into the used games and the dismissal of indie developers, who have made many if not most of the compelling games in recent years.

Blogger Nate June 19, 2013 2:44 PM  

Most of the bitching about the Xbox One is idiotic.

1) Try to trade Battlefield 3 for the playstation. Sorry kids. You need a code for multiplayer.

2) The people bitching about the Xbox One... all have 360s at home right now... with a connect bar hooked up.. connected to the internet.

idiots.

Anonymous realmatt June 19, 2013 2:46 PM  

Shenmue is the greatest game ever.

Anonymous ryo hazuki June 19, 2013 2:47 PM  

Shenmue is the greatest game ever.

I agree. Would you like to play a game of Lucky Hit?

Anonymous Obvious June 19, 2013 2:47 PM  

The always online DRM requiring you to log in every 24 hours is creepy enough before we even get into the used games and the dismissal of indie developers, who have made many if not most of the compelling games in recent years.

I bet all that was thought up by a woman.

Blogger The Deuce June 19, 2013 2:54 PM  

I've been mostly a 360 guy this generation (though I do own both), but I've got no qualms about dropping the One in favor of the PS4 (particularly considering that the two are damned near identical from a hardware standpoint).

My one regret in all this is that the PS4 doesn't have the successor to Kinect.

Anonymous DaveD June 19, 2013 2:58 PM  

Nate, I have a 360. No Kinnect, Connect, whatever the Hell it's called. The thing has never been (knowingly) on the internet.

I HATE the ONE. I have a real life. I don't want to have to log in every day just to pay homage to MS like a Catholic bowing to the crucifix every time they come to church. I don't play often. I don't want to be forced to only buy new games that I may only play 6 times and there's no aftermarket for. I can't even borrow it from a friend to see if I like it before having to go buy it new.

There's nothing but fail in the new Xbox.

DD

Blogger El Borak June 19, 2013 2:58 PM  

VD: I don't know what possesses these people with the desperate need to denigrate everything I do..

Sure you do. You even know why the reaction is so visceral. The progressive's entire sense of self-worth is based on the presumption that he is smarter than you are. If you go back to the original Progressives, their contribution to governance was that they began to treat all societal problems as math, science, and engineering problems.* They created the Fed to manage money, they organized all sorts of boards and professional organizations to certify and organize, they created bureaucrats and technocrats - "professional" whose presumption was not that man tends toward evil, but that he is ignorant and must be organized. All you have to do is educate people out of their "problems" (like racism** and freedom and the desire to not be part of progressive nation-building projects). They changed politics from the governance of people to the administration of things.

Now, since all societal problems are math, science, and engineering problems, there is one answer for each problem, and we can figure it out by being smart and scientific and professional about it. Progressives have figured it out because they're the kind of smart, sophisticated people who can do that.

Because you don't agree with their solutions, you must be stupid. They are (in their own minds) saying that 2+2 is 4, and here you are saying it's purple. You don't disagree with them because you have other priorities, nor because (God forbid) they're incorrect, but because you're too ignorant and idiotic to understand the question, much less the solution. You don't get it. And you probably never will, ya big dummy.

So once you understand that the progressive considers you a dummy who is too benighted to understand anything about technology and science and society, it's not hard to understand why he believes in his heart of hearts that you didn't build that. It's because you could not have done so.

So off he goes on a little trek to find any evidence, no matter how flimsy or improperly selected, that will allow him to dismiss your claim. He does not have to disprove your claim - that would mean taking it seriously. He merely seeks to dismiss it, to make it disappear. He already knows it's not true - you're too stupid to have done anything worthwhile. He just seeks to make the claim go away, because deep down inside, it causes this nagging doubt, this little pain in his soul, and he does not like that feeling even a little bit...

* Remember those heady days when science could do everything? That was awesome!
** Ironic, since progressives were among the most racist individuals imaginable

Anonymous bob k. mando June 19, 2013 3:01 PM  

Log June 19, 2013 2:00 PM
Well, books were available for free in Ultima Online, but I guess the novel idea of selling them rather than giving them away is yours.



in the same way that charging a penny for "Penny Dreadfuls" was a revolutionary concept over the idea of, you know, just printing books and giving them away for free.

kind of hard to get authors to go along with the "give all my books aways free of charge" profit model.

Anonymous bob k. mando June 19, 2013 3:03 PM  

it's just not a proper El Borak post if'n it ain't got not footnotes.

Blogger Nate June 19, 2013 3:08 PM  

"Nate, I have a 360. No Kinnect, Connect, whatever the Hell it's called. The thing has never been (knowingly) on the internet."

So you don't play black ops or MW3 or Halo multiplayer?

Then you ain't the target market... and they don't care.

Anonymous Michael Maier June 19, 2013 3:08 PM  

"The people bitching about the Xbox One... all have 360s at home right now... with a connect bar hooked up.. connected to the internet."

Not even close to "all", Nate. Most 360 owners I know don't even own one.

I refuse to have a machine that takes pictures of you without asking in my living room and I knew it would do that during the Beta. I don't even walk by the Kinect setup in Best Buy. And the MS / XBox rep in there one day couldn't even get it synced up to demo in store!

There doesn't even seem to be ONE single well-executed game in the entire Kinect catalog. I've never heard anyone rave about one either. Hell, I heard hundreds times more raving buzz about the dang Wii!

Guess I'm going to jump off the console carousel this gen. I'd still rather play single player Halo Reach than anything released since.

Blogger Nate June 19, 2013 3:09 PM  

"I bet all that was thought up by a woman."

It wasn't thought up by Microsoft. It was thought up by EA. And if you think Sony isn't going to do the same thing... you're an idiot fan boy.

The only console manufacturer with the juice to tell EA to kiss off is Nintendo... because their best selling games are made by... Nintendo.

Anonymous Michael Maier June 19, 2013 3:11 PM  

Nate: "Then you ain't the target market... and they don't care."

Their aim is off, then. And I'll bet MS will bite it hard in the "market".

Blogger The Deuce June 19, 2013 3:16 PM  

I don't own a Kinect (though I really would've liked to play the Kinect version of Skyrim, with the real dragon shouts and all), but I was looking forward to the new version, which will finally work with my projector. I'm not putting up with all this other crap to get it though, particularly when I buy almost all my games used. Between that and the rapidly increasing popularity of indie games, MS is cooked.

Btw, I heard today that Nintendo is doing a Wii U recall. Looks like Sony is going to win this round almost by forfeit.

Anonymous David June 19, 2013 3:22 PM  

"I wonder how many blog posts dedicated to me I can rack up."

Just keep making dumb mistakes and I am sure a couple of the more funny ones will get posted.

Blogger El Borak June 19, 2013 3:28 PM  

bkm: it's just not a proper El Borak post if'n it ain't got not footnotes.

Or spelling errors.

Blogger Brad Andrews June 19, 2013 3:34 PM  

This made me think of the time I was attempting to make a color version of Arkanoid on the Mac. I had everything working, but couldn't get the graphics to run fast enough to look proper. I rewrote the collision routine several times before it dawned on me that blitting to the screen was likely the problem. I validated that and realized I was stuck.

It was a few years ahead of its time. The Mac IIx just couldn't push things fast enough for it. I was using the Apple interface, so it is possible someone might have been able to do it faster going outside the interface, but that would not have been as reliable.

Anonymous Red June 19, 2013 3:37 PM  

I've never understood the Kinnect. As an evolved killer ape with a fetish for tool using, I want an actual object in my hands when I play a game. Give a me a sword prop, a drivers wheel, a gun prop, ect. Waving my hands in the air is something I can get from CSPAN.

Anonymous FUBAR Nation Ben June 19, 2013 3:42 PM  

Sega Dreamcast was a piece of crap, except for Echo the Dolphin. Couldn't get enough of that fellow.

Vox, you do realize that sega genesis was the best gaming system ever made because of Mortal Kombat?

Regardless, I can't fault Microsoft for their stance. They want to take the easy way out, like all established giants. They'll continue to do it until they get blown away by an ambitious startup with disruptive technology. Then it'll be too late to buy them out.

Anonymous Will Best June 19, 2013 3:49 PM  

The only console manufacturer with the juice to tell EA to kiss off is Nintendo... because their best selling games are made by... Nintendo.

I am in an abusive relationship with Nintendo because of this. Since NU64 they have produced about 3-4 games per platform that I want and I keep buying their console to get them.

I haven't decided on ps4 vs xbox1 but that decision will probably be made by my kids for Christmas 2014 at this point.

Blogger Nate June 19, 2013 3:59 PM  

"I haven't decided on ps4 vs xbox1 but that decision will probably be made by my kids for Christmas 2014 at this point."

I can't wait till the people bitching about Xbox1 find all the same problems with PS4... then rationalize that its totally different.

Blogger Nate June 19, 2013 4:01 PM  

"Their aim is off, then. And I'll bet MS will bite it hard in the "market"."

Yeah they are totally idiots for going for the 16 to 24 year old male gamers that love first person shooters.

Anonymous Daniel June 19, 2013 4:05 PM  

Random "Where Were They Then" that might be of interest to about 2 other people here:

Echo the Dolphin... I think David Brin wrote the storyline for that.

Obvious
I wonder how many blog posts dedicated to me I can rack up.

All of them, dear. You can count all of them.

Anonymous Lulabelle, Ilk Archivist June 19, 2013 4:08 PM  

"Anyhow, this sort of thing suffices to indicate how the Left's revisionist instincts penetrate even to the pettiest micro level."

Another quote for the archives.

Anonymous John Strong June 19, 2013 4:16 PM  

A good deal of doubt arises from the innate need that most people feel to over-inflate their accomplishments. The ankle-biter sees it in himself and assumes it must be the same with every other person.

Anonymous realmatt June 19, 2013 4:21 PM  

The only console manufacturer with the juice to tell EA to kiss off is Nintendo... because their best selling games are made by... Nintendo.

Proving yet again that creating your own shit will is always better in the long run. If not fiscally, then certainly spiritually. What's more money when you're a slave to the actions of others?

Anonymous Axe Head June 19, 2013 4:25 PM  

Rumor mill: Microsoft is changing policies

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2013/06/rumor-microsoft-set-to-reverse-controversial-game-licensing-policies/

"Take this with a grain of salt for now, but Giant Bomb news writer Patrick Klepek is reporting that "multiple sources" are telling him that Microsoft will be announcing a complete reversal of its controversial Xbox One game licensing and online policies later today."

Anonymous FP June 19, 2013 4:30 PM  

"I can't wait till the people bitching about Xbox1 find all the same problems with PS4... then rationalize that its totally different."

Possibly, at least when it comes to used games. I mean, it is Sony after all. They don't have a stellar record with DRM. That and when it comes to boycotts, gamers are... weak willed. See the modern warfare 2 boycott steam list.

The kinnect isn't what sells xboxes though. They're forcing it on people this time and thus the xbox is $100 more than the ps4. So unless EA and the other FPS devs tell Sony to eff off, why buy the xbone? Anecdotal as it may be, most of the folks I've talked to who play console games want the ability to trade/sell the games.

Blogger Nate June 19, 2013 4:36 PM  

"So unless EA and the other FPS devs tell Sony to eff off, why buy the xbone? Anecdotal as it may be, most of the folks I've talked to who play console games want the ability to trade/sell the games."

1) You don't have the ability to trade games. As I've already pointed out... FPS is all about multiplayer... and you cant play multiplayer on a used game without buying a code.

2) Given that EA and other developers are the ones pushing this DRM crap... you can bet they will be leaning on Sony too... and Sony will cave like giant bitches.

Anonymous Quadko June 19, 2013 4:43 PM  

Sega Dreamcast was a piece of crap

Them's fighting words. Soul Calibur up, my friend! "The Soul STILL burns".

We used the original xbox as our Dvd player for a long while. I got a PS3 for blu-ray and have enjoyed gaming on it and netflix/amazon streaming. I got a kinnect to hook up to windows and play with some of the hacks - fun. Then I got a 360 recently for cheap, and it was very fun, too - mostly for the indie games and a few from the arcade. Hooking the kinnect up to the 360 was fun briefly, but not enough room to even play what games exist. That likely leaves me in the PS4 "late adopt" camp between the lack of indie stuff on xbone, the desire to play the next Uncharted, and maybe I'll xbone up in a few years when they are cheap - if there is a reason to buy. I also just got my Ouya - and either mine is defective, it's a bad bios update, or the games are overpowering it. I like the system, am disappointed by my gameplay sessions so far, and hopeful for some more fun in the future.

But really, I was hoping for a reason like the PS3 bluray player on one of the new consoles. And I keep thinking SOMEONE will solve the PC as the ultimate TV Gaming machine with a 4 wireless controller + tiny keyboard input. A wee bit of hardware, some Media Center-like interface, and a new world opens. I can't figure out how to accomplish it from my garage, though. ;)

Anonymous Obvious June 19, 2013 4:55 PM  

news.xbox.com/2013/06/update

OpenID cailcorishev June 19, 2013 4:56 PM  

Remember those heady days when science could do everything? That was awesome!

The MST3K guys had a lot of fun with this when they'd do old movies from that era. Any guy in a white coat is automatically a trusted expert, and it's not unusual for him to walk into a monster-fighting situation and take over, giving orders to the entire military. Yes, Science was going to solve everything.

Anonymous The CronoLink June 19, 2013 4:57 PM  

The 2nd Crash is coming and I fear even Nintendo won't get out of it unharmed

Blogger Nate June 19, 2013 4:58 PM  

Honestly I think the console market is going to eat itself. This idiotic anti-piracy crap is going to do way more harm than good.

Anonymous Obvious June 19, 2013 5:03 PM  

That was supposed to be a link to Microsoft's official retraction of their used game policy and the 24 hour check in.

OpenID cailcorishev June 19, 2013 5:03 PM  

This story reminds me of my Commodore 128. Its 8502 chip was capable of running at 2Mhz, and it also had a Z80 chip onboard that could run at 4Mhz. But the 40-column video chip only ran at 1Mhz, and the main bus and the 80-column video topped out at 2Mhz, so you really couldn't ever run either CPU at more than half-speed (at least not without doing tricky stuff like turning the speed up momentarily between raster lines). And because backwards compatibility with the C64 was almost perfect, hardly anyone ever released anything that took advantage of the C128's potential anyway.

Anonymous Andre June 19, 2013 5:05 PM  

Sorry, OT but I just have to post this. I'm only a newbie here, I know, but I think this is very Voxic:

http://theclearlydope.tumblr.com/post/53324940749/this-awkward-elevator-mad-men-with-girly

Anonymous LL June 19, 2013 5:15 PM  

@Nate

2) The people bitching about the Xbox One... all have 360s at home right now... with a connect bar hooked up.. connected to the internet.

We have 360 with kinect and do not have it hooked up to the internet (never have). Xbox One requires you to connect to the internet at least once every 24 hrs or you cannot offline game at all. Also, the mic is live all the time. Also, you cannot "activate" games in different regions. Which basically excludes all deployed military in some way, shape, or form between connection, security concerns, and being outside a certain region. Guess what...Afghanistan is not part of the MS "this is ok for our games" region. If you activate in Germany, you cannot play in the US. They just cut out a significant portion of their audience.

Anonymous FUBAR Nation Ben June 19, 2013 5:17 PM  

Quadko, I forgot about Soul Calibur. That still doesn't negate the fact that Dreamcast was garbage just like Sega Saturn.

The PC is the ulimate gaming machine because it's constantly improving. You have to wait many years to get the next best gaming console. If you build your own PCs you can literally save over 50% instead of going to WorstBuy.

I think the main problem with many console games is that they are too complex. It is not humanly possible, unless you are an internet superintelligence, to memorize every little control and combination unless you play 8 hours a day. That or I'm nostalgic for the old PC games like Tie Fighter, Quake, and Serious Sam.

Anonymous LL June 19, 2013 5:19 PM  

@obvious

Well, they certainly pulled their BS back fast. This is what I based my previous comment upon and it is dated the 14th. 5 days later is yours.

http://www.armytimes.com/article/20130614/OFFDUTY02/306140030/New-Xbox-sin-against-all-service-members

Blogger Markku June 19, 2013 5:19 PM  

Also, the mic is live all the time.

It would be very sad if you forgot your headphones playing white noise from the radio over the mic.

Blogger Nate June 19, 2013 5:20 PM  

LL

You need to read the most recent update from Microsoft. Pretty much everything you just said... is now false.

1) You don't have to have it connected to the internet all the time. there is a 1 time internet based setup. and then that's it.

2) You can play it anywhere in the world any time you want.

3) You can trade games just like you do on the 360.

What else would you like to complain about?

Blogger Nate June 19, 2013 5:21 PM  

"Also, the mic is live all the time."

The mic is listening for the word "xbox". The kinnect mic does that already too. Pull up the traffic on your network and watch. No one is streaming any video anywhere.

Anonymous Noah B. June 19, 2013 5:25 PM  

"No one is streaming any video anywhere."

At least, that is, until Snowden's old co-workers run the right query.

Blogger Markku June 19, 2013 5:26 PM  

Or the new face recognition feature (ostensibly made for targeted ads) notices a person of interest.

Blogger Markku June 19, 2013 5:30 PM  

And when you're watching television, you'd better smile when Obama is on, because it also has an emotion detection feature. Ostensibly for feedback to advertisers, whether their ads are working.

Anonymous The CronoLink June 19, 2013 5:36 PM  

OT:

They're after John Derbyshire once again

http://feministing.com/2013/06/18/conservative-says-women-in-military-make-up-rape-stories-for-money/

Anonymous LL June 19, 2013 5:50 PM  

@Nate, their original position was "too bad, so sad for you, use 360" but now they have changed everything according to @obvious' link. So in 5 days they turn around their position, but the question is, how much will they REALLY change once the furor has died down? That is a whole helluva lot of coding to change, I think. We'll see.

Anonymous Catan June 19, 2013 5:57 PM  

I hope the console market eats itself. PCs are positioning themselves well in the indie market.

The way the indies are buzzing these days, with kickstarter, etc, makes me think we are entering a golden age of some kind.

So many awesome games in niches I could only have dreamed of years before.

Anonymous aviendha June 19, 2013 5:58 PM  

I love all the "you are idiots for complaining" quickly turns into "now what are you complaining about" after Microsoft's about face.

Even pro Microsoft fanboy's like myself were going to skip the xbox one. Now at least I can consider it, hoping that the games are worth a shit.

There was/is a lot of the anti-bashing on Windows 8, which was a pretty huge failure. I got a 99$ surface rt at teched and its a piece of crap. It won't even stream video without hiccupping and the surface pro is too tiny to be useful. I have a Lenovo 13" yoga and find I only use it when I want portability, which is only when I travel. Yeah let me go back to 1992 and get excited about the cutting edge vga 12" IBM monitor.

Anonymous Gamer June 19, 2013 6:17 PM  

"Then you ain't the target market... and they don't care."

It's not often someone has to eat their words so quickly.

Blogger kilo papa June 19, 2013 6:49 PM  

And then Jesus came upon his disciples and said, "Brethren, I should have passed on the beans and cabbage at our last supper. Because your Lord and Savior has a fart the size of Palestine about to explode out of his asshole!!!!!"--------Jesus Christ, as told to dKirk Cameron.

Blogger tz June 19, 2013 7:09 PM  

You kids think you're hot stuff for MMX. Try doing sprites on an Apple II! with the odd bitmap where you are doing the color burst frequency through a shift register to set the colors. Or the Commodore 64. Or the 3D rendering with hardware assist on EGA on the original ISA bus. PCI bottleneck? It would be nice to have PCI. I've written for the 6502 and 8088!

(Doing so helped me gain the skills for embedded hardware since the $2 microcontrollers are a bit more powerful, so I can fit rather complex programs into a few K. Yes, into a space smaller than the original post).

Anonymous Obvious June 19, 2013 7:10 PM  

LL,

Oh I agree. I was in no way trying to say you were wrong, just that today Microsoft decided to eat their crow.

Blogger tz June 19, 2013 7:55 PM  

And it would be difficult to set the record straight. The vinyl might warp and it is designed to be an Ar-comedian spiral designed to be needled.

Blogger ajw308 June 19, 2013 8:00 PM  

Man Vox that is way over my visual acuity. Did you code that? I have problems flying a Jap Zero in Aces High.
C 205 for the win.

Anonymous dh June 19, 2013 8:02 PM  


What else would you like to complain about?


The phrase "too little, too late" comes to mind.

Blogger James Dixon June 19, 2013 8:05 PM  

> SWEET BILLY GATES but the insanity of certain console makers truly knows no bounds.

There's a reason Valve has ported Steam to Linux and is looking at releasing a Linux based console.

> It's like this infernal device was designed by the government and Microsoft to spy on us ...

What makes you think it wasn't. It's a small step from installing DRM for the studios to installing spying capability for the government.

WEET BILLY GATES but the insanity of certain console makers truly knows no bounds.

Anonymous AlteredFate June 19, 2013 8:10 PM  

"Honestly I think the console market is going to eat itself. This idiotic anti-piracy crap is going to do way more harm than good." -Nate

This combined with the "buy our game at $60, turn it on and see that for $10 you can get expanded content. And next week we'll be releasing even more content we've had all along, for $10 more." Last game I bought was Dragon Age, took it home the day it was released only to find you could buy more content. On day one. WTF!? Really? I don't get the entire game for the already outrageous price? No thanks. I knew where it was headed when you could pay $$ to unlock all the skins for Street Fighter instead of having to unlock them with achievements. Back to SNES if I feel like playing a console. The new consoles with their own networks and all that is simply selling the players as a captive audience to the game makers. Good deal for the game makers because most gamers will fall for it like a bunch of suckers.

Anonymous bob k. mando June 19, 2013 8:36 PM  

El Borak June 19, 2013 3:28 PM
Or spelling errors.





fake El Borak post, bro. no footnotes, you see.

Anonymous bob k. mando June 19, 2013 9:08 PM  

you know all these jackasses who disparage 'conspiracy nuts'?


did you know that the US Gov conspired to murder thousands of alcohol drinkers during prohibition?
http://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php/2010/07/the-american-government-once-intentionally-poisoned-certain-alcohol-supplies-resulting-in-the-death-of-over-10000-american-citizens/

Anonymous Porky June 19, 2013 9:16 PM  

Pull up the traffic on your network and watch. No one is streaming any video anywhere.

Until the NSA triggers the surveillance switch and accesses the backdoor. And it won't be streaming video. It'll be low bandwidth intermittent audio.

Anonymous Dot connector June 19, 2013 9:45 PM  

"YOU DIDN'T BUILD THAT!!!"

Leftards say the same thing when it comes to God and His creation. No surprise they do that to other creators. They like to deny the creators their just recognition for their works being the thieves they are.

Blogger Nate June 19, 2013 10:22 PM  

"It's not often someone has to eat their words so quickly."

HA!

Amen.

Anonymous Darth Toolpodicus June 19, 2013 11:36 PM  

@Vox I was gonna say...it sounded like you were getting side-tracked on the MMX discussion...MMX was good for integer work, but not so hot for boosting graphics calculations if you were needing a lot of floating point math, which was one of the reasons it didn't live up to the hype.

All those games bring back fond memories: I bought the Rendition V1000/CL 3D Blaster PCI specifically to play VQuake.

Anonymous Yeah, my friend Bob Sacamano June 19, 2013 11:56 PM  

"Did you know that the US Gov conspired to murder thousands of alcohol drinkers during prohibition?"

Yeah, those gangsters who conspired to steal denatured alcohol, hired their own chemists to make it palatable, and then sold it to speakeasies by the truckload most certainly are not also responsible for the demise of their customers. (rolling of eyes)

"The government knows it is not stopping drinking by putting poison in alcohol," New York City medical examiner Charles Norris said at a hastily organized press conference. "[Y]et it continues its poisoning processes, heedless of the fact that people determined to drink are daily absorbing that poison. **Knowing this to be true, the United States government must be charged with the moral responsibility for the deaths that poisoned liquor causes, although it cannot be held legally responsible."**

Exactly, NOT legally culpable.

Anonymous Catan June 20, 2013 12:30 AM  

Yeah, those gangsters who conspired to steal denatured alcohol, hired their own chemists to make it palatable, and then sold it to speakeasies by the truckload most certainly are not also responsible for the demise of their customers. (rolling of eyes)

A Government is only legitimate if it governs with the understanding of human nature behind its decisions.

It was the Government ban on something people wanted to have that created the incentive in the first place!

Anonymous bob k. mando June 20, 2013 1:03 AM  

Yeah, my friend Bob Sacamano June 19, 2013 11:56 PM
New York City medical examiner Charles Norris said..."[Y]et it continues its poisoning processes, heedless of the fact that people determined to drink are daily absorbing that poison. **Knowing this to be true, the United States government must be charged with the moral responsibility for the deaths that poisoned liquor causes, although it cannot be held legally responsible."**

Exactly, NOT legally culpable.






because, fvck morals, that's why. fvck them right in their nasty, dirty little ear hole.

also, sure, death is in no way a cruel or unusual punishment for the crime of drinking alcohol. especially when you didn't even bother with a trial ...

Anonymous Video Game Spectator June 20, 2013 1:31 AM  

Sega Dreamcast? Of course. Xbox One needs a new launch title: Chu Chu Vox.

Small icons of espresso and red wine pop out and zip around the screen. You place the arrows carefully to direct them over into the bases, which are actually Vox heads with an open mouth. At the end of the level, Vox blasts off.

Get crackin' master video hand player.


I agree. Would you like to play a game of Lucky Hit?

I am looking for my father. Perhaps if I race with forklifts, I will somehow find him at the docks.

Given that EA and other developers are the ones pushing this DRM crap... you can bet they will be leaning on Sony too... and Sony will cave like giant bitches.

EA is the company that makes me think Satan is perhaps real, and walking among us. The video game industry is in for a huge upheaval with these new consoles coming out and the economic contraction. They cannot rely on expanding populations anymore to grow gaming. Let's hope they don't crash like with E.T.

Anonymous Ain June 20, 2013 2:40 AM  

I keep hearing bad things about XBox One. I was already disinclined to get one because the DVD drive in my 360 didn't last one month longer than the 12 year warranty, and my decision is pretty much sealed now.

It's amusing that I can often get PC ports of the same 360 games through Steam for nearly half the price, and use a USB XBOX controller that I got new for $20. I've never liked consoles over PCs.

Anonymous sprach von Teufelhunden June 20, 2013 2:57 AM  

I love gaming. I recall the days when I had to code my own chess game on my Commodore64, before I could begin playing my own chess game. A few years before that, I was coding my own chess game on an IBM 360/370 in Fortan IV, with Hollerith Cards, before being able to play my chess game. If I was really lazy, I would just go to the CRT Terminal room, and log on to a M.I.T. Star Trek session. Those were the days.

For the present, I am relegated to playing Half-life, Blue Shift, Opposing Force, and Half-Life 2, via Steam on my Lenovo, Intel Dual Core, 4 GB laptop, (Win8) because my 40GB Fat PS3 is experiencing the YLOD, and I'm not quite in the best position to repair/replace it. The bulk of my PC game library, going back to the early 90s, is safely tucked away in a PODS, some 150 miles away from my current residence.

I have never owned a M$ console. I have owned Playstation from One to the present. Will probably eventually get the Four, and the Five (if the planet is still in one piece). Both Sony and M$ are evil. But to choose my "necessary evil," in my present temporal existence, I choose Sony for consoles. I would really like to see Newell and Friends take the next step to Linux. A Steam Box, preloaded with Linux is a good idea. Sony f*cked up taking that capability away. That was a real winner, making a PS3 a dual-function game console and Linux box. That decision had less to do with security, and more with politics between Sony, IBM, and YellowDog. Sony would be smart to find a way to bring that functionality back. If you asked me, a real coup.

But getting back to even more important things, don't forget to keep informed about the confirmed U.S. Navy shoot down of TWA 800, and Snowden being outed as a CIA/MOSSAD shill...

Anonymous Jack Amok June 20, 2013 3:21 AM  

This Xbox One launch is reminding me more and more of the Sega Dreamcast.

Actually, I was thinking it was reminding me more and more of any recent MSFT product launch. Bad design choices and worse communication.

But at least they've changed direction now. Xbox One Eighty, the latest in gaming consoles...

Honestly I think the console market is going to eat itself. This idiotic anti-piracy crap is going to do way more harm than good.

DRM, the Communism of the Technology world. Sure it failed utterly every single previous time anyone has ever tried it, but we'll get it right this time! We're SMRT!

Anonymous TMQ Fanboy June 20, 2013 8:58 AM  

This is pretty much all you need to know about the changes to XBone.

Blogger Nate June 20, 2013 10:16 AM  

"This is pretty much all you need to know about the changes to XBone."

That was freaking glorious.

I am terrified to note that I actually do use bing now. for anything firearm related... Bing is infinitely superior to Google.

Anonymous sprach von Teufelhunden June 20, 2013 1:56 PM  

And Startpage/Ixquick is superior to both Google and Bing (probably to all others as well) ...

That entire xBoner discussion only proves the point, that the problem is the unsound monetary system. Fix that, and one will not have to pay $60.00+ for a new game, most of which have little or no "value added," and are not encouraged more to give your hard earned bones to "pre-played" markets (whereas in most cases, one does get equal value). [1]

And, most importantly, one will have a lot more hard earned bones to buy a lot more "pixelated diversions," and possibly even more time to give attention to said diversions ...


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[1] Bring down the price at the pump to $1.00 or less, cutting transpo costs alone, will bring down that $60.00 price down to more the level of $40.00 or less, what we used to pay for the best PC games. Bringing down that PATP also frees up more bones for more "pixelated diversions." (and Yes, I do cherish more -- diversions)

Anonymous Luke June 21, 2013 1:40 PM  

More whining by not-so-bright feminazis over how many video game characters are female:

http://townhall.com/columnists/brentbozell/2013/06/21/a-flagrant-feminist-failure-n1623950?utm_source=thdaily&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=nl

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