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Saturday, June 22, 2013

Thus am I refuted

Aliette de Bodard inadvertently makes a powerful case against my assertions of savagery in the SFWA on Twitter:
"When I was 13 or so, I stabbed boy who was bothering me with pointy end of a pair of compasses (planted it in his hand when he reached out)"

"to be fair, I didn't have much body strength; they barely broke skin. He was mostly surprised that I attacked..."

"Felt quite happy (still do)."
All righty then.  I stand corrected. She only stabbed him, after all, it's not as if she dismembered and ate him or anything.  Civilization is a relative concept, is it not? But let's not let our expectations rise too high, as the woman actually defends "death threats... made to various writers" on the grounds of them being "performance rage".

"[B]y “performance rage”, I mean that RH doesn’t actually intend to send minions to decapitate all white men, or to carry out the death threats she’s made to various writers. But I’m pretty sure she’s genuinely furious at the cultural appropriation and misogyny that is unfortunately rife in genre; and that posts like the one I pointed out stem from genuine anger rather than a simple desire to rile people up."

So, death threats are acceptable so long as one is genuinely furious.  Got it. Remember, these are the very pinkshirts who claim that straight white men are full of hate, rage, and fear.

71 Comments:

Anonymous kh123 June 22, 2013 2:02 PM  

Because every crime is the result of class differences imposed by society. Revolutionary sense of justice. Hot heart, cool head, clean hands. Concretize the eventuality. Stems from genuine anger rather than a simple desire to rile people up. We're not here to crack jokes, after all.

What wonderful leftovers we apparently have from Soviet jurisprudence. Should be thankful none of them are as trigger happy as their counterparts in greatcoats, only owing to the fact guns and roundups haven't become chic in those circles.

Anonymous Michael Maier June 22, 2013 2:02 PM  

As if anyone writing fantasy fiction in typical style doesn't use a bit of French here, some Roman there, a bit of German here, lots of Norse there, etc.

I'm sure Japanese folks don't lump most other Asians together either. /s

Only a mal-educated unthinking creature could write that.

Anonymous Idle Spectator June 22, 2013 2:03 PM  

I feel so much rage, I feel like acting like an Asian man pretending to be a black man holding up an ATM.

Anonymous Heh June 22, 2013 2:07 PM  

As long as they have good intentions when they say they want to kill you, it is excusable!

What is this, the poor man's version of "Stalin and Mao had good intentions when they killed hundreds of millions of people, so it's excusable"?

Blogger Nate June 22, 2013 2:09 PM  

violence is awesome when liberals are doing it.

Anonymous Eduardo June 22, 2013 2:09 PM  

No surprises, given the woman's genetic extraction. Looking for civilized behavior from the Vietnamese is a fool's errand at best.

Anonymous A Visitor June 22, 2013 2:13 PM  

OT: Just saw the post about your wife on AlphaGame and saw the photo. Vox, she is beautiful! Congrats!

Anonymous Daniel June 22, 2013 2:19 PM  

Aha! Hate speech isn't hate speech, as long as it is honest.

Anonymous bob k. mando June 22, 2013 2:21 PM  

Idle Spectator June 22, 2013 2:03 PM
I feel so much rage, I feel like acting like an Asian man pretending to be a black man holding up an ATM.




like a black man holding up an ATM? how does that work? are you, like, some kind of Samson-like African pretending Asian man, to be able to press ATM's over your head? those things are pretty damn heavy.


oh, OH, i'm sorry. you meant to 'hold up' an ATM like you would a bank teller. i didn't know ATM's responded to waving a gun at their keypads. i'll have to try that.

:3

Anonymous fags June 22, 2013 2:24 PM  

Nobody cares about your petty little bitch squabbles in the annals of
the swfa, the forum of record for bad writers with poor imaginations.

Oh wait, your faithful yapdogs do. Ilk, commence your lackeying. Fill this echo chamber with your slurping, and clean those nuts well.

Anonymous Idle Trung Sisters June 22, 2013 2:24 PM  

No surprises, given the woman's genetic extraction. Looking for civilized behavior from the Vietnamese is a fool's errand at best.

Now that is funny. I did not realize she was Vietnamese from reading the surname. I've been with Vietnamese women. When they get pissed, watch your back and your ball sack. And sleep with one eye open.


They are extremely civilized.

Until you make them mad.

Anonymous bob k. mando June 22, 2013 2:29 PM  

fags June 22, 2013 2:24 PM
Nobody cares about your petty little bitch squabbles in the annals of
the swfa, the forum of record for bad writers with poor imaginations.





we're already into the "i didn't want that chili anyways" phase of the conflict? because fags seems to be conceding that the SFWA is destined to lose this argument....


and also, using "fags" as an epithet reveals deep seated homophobia and likely issues with cis-gendered privilege. i recommend that user "fags" be sent to indoctrination and acceptance classes as the previous ~13 years of schooling doesn't seem to have taken.

Anonymous VD June 22, 2013 2:31 PM  

Nobody cares about your petty little bitch squabbles in the annals of
the swfa, the forum of record for bad writers with poor imaginations.


They are unimportant in themselves, to be sure. But they are significant in that they are a microcosm of the larger cultural war for the tattered soul of the West. Consider the very similar attacks on James Taranto to which Instapundit linked today, by way of example.

Anonymous Auntie Whyte Jemisin June 22, 2013 2:31 PM  

This is better:

https://twitter.com/aliettedb/status/347798998851137536

Anonymous Anonymous June 22, 2013 2:32 PM  

I used to get chased home from school by the same boy day after day after day.
He was trying to kiss me. It was the third grade and I was horrified. One day on the playground he was chasing me around and nearly caught me, so I kicked him. A teacher saw it and I got in trouble. Because I hadn't reported him (I was very very shy in school, never wanted to cause any trouble, I was a very fast runner, so had gotten away from him every time before then)
But the teacher saw me kick the boy that time, and I got in trouble. It was just a gut instinct for me, I was not playing any sort of game with him, I wanted NOTHING to do with kissing him, I was truly horrified at the thought. But didn't want to cause any trouble by telling anyone (or draw any attention to myself, as my parents taught me to keep quiet)
Not exactly the same, but I *get* how it could happen. (I don't condone violence of any kind, and wish that I could turn back time and be strong enough to tell a teacher that this kid hid behind a different building every day to ambush me. I know that in some small extenuating cicumstances you just have to follow your instincts...
G

Anonymous VD June 22, 2013 2:32 PM  

she’s genuinely furious at the cultural appropriation

Consider that this is coming from a French-Vietnamese woman who writes novels about Aztecs... in English.

Blogger JACIII June 22, 2013 2:40 PM  

I will say and repeat ad nauseum: A leftist is always ready to kill you for your own good.

Anonymous Idle Spectator June 22, 2013 2:43 PM  

like a black man holding up an ATM? how does that work? are you, like, some kind of Samson-like African pretending Asian man, to be able to press ATM's over your head? those things are pretty damn heavy.


oh, OH, i'm sorry. you meant to 'hold up' an ATM like you would a bank teller. i didn't know ATM's responded to waving a gun at their keypads. i'll have to try that.

:3


You... wait for someone to show up at the ATM, then have them enter the PIN number and card while waving a weapon. Also, making sure to have some mask on to avoid detection from the camera. Preferably you find one with shrubbery or some structure nearby that allows you to watch the ATM carefully without exposing yourself. Also it is usually at night, most likely between the hours of midnight and four AM.

Do I need to draw you a fucking schematic?

You sound like a very liberal white woman in Teach For America, on her first assignment in Compton and trying to understand the underclass.

"They use drugs in prison?! I don't understand! Drugs are illegal! How could illegal drugs possibly illegally end up in a prison?"

Anonymous Auntie Whyte Jemisin June 22, 2013 2:46 PM  

Requires Only That You Hate is back now. Maybe it was a glitch. Oddly enough, this lesbian ethnic Chinese, Thai national has a server based in San Antonio. The company does NOT service Asia, although it does service the U.K. Might be a cisgendered Texas Ranger having a joke on the rabbit-verse. Wouldn't be the first time. If you remember, heroic kidnapped "gay girl" in Syria turned out to be a married American guy in Scotland. And he in turn was exchanging emails with a "lesbian" who turned out to be a guy in Canada I think it was. Two cons conning each other. Must've been some lively and noble conversations there.

Anonymous kh123 June 22, 2013 2:47 PM  

On world building:

"...since your narration will affect other people who read it and shape their idea of the world/the history, you also have an obligation not to distort what you take from, as much as is humanely possible (and “not distorting” can get tricky)."

Especially when political expediency and group approval is involved.

Out of one side of the mouth comes the above, and from the other end is:

"Hate speech is nothing but the first step of hateful action. In Europe there's a strong history of that... again, it's not a censorship problem. It's a problem that if you allow people to call for genocide, then you make it that much easier for genocide to actually happen. Again--there are precedents. my point is that not that my country censors it. My point is that they make it clear this sort of views are not acceptable..."

And what if your own world building is accused of transgressing the acceptable. Careful! You wouldn't want to fall afoul of that tricky distortion that one must always be on guard to censo... edit out, voluntarily. Because sf/f is an exciting and dangerous place to question the possibilities.

Anonymous Oats June 22, 2013 2:52 PM  

I had a very similar experience when I was in elementary school where a girl stabbed me with a pencil, I don't remember why, but I was going to hit her back when she started mocking me about how boys aren't allowed to hit girls, no matter what, the other children were, boys included, were agreeing with her so I ended up not doing anything for fear that they'd team up on me.

Looking back on it it's pretty scary how early the rabbits start figuring out the tactics for controlling radical elements in the group.

Anonymous Godfrey June 22, 2013 2:56 PM  

Psychologically, she's still 13.

The left never passes beyond puberty.

Anonymous Laz June 22, 2013 3:05 PM  

@ G: But, did you "feel happy"(still do) about doing it though?

Anonymous YIH June 22, 2013 3:06 PM  

the woman actually defends "death threats... made to various writers" on the grounds of them being "performance rage".
It is claimed 0bama wrote a book, wonder if the Secret Service would be dismissed by calling it "performance rage".
I doubt it.

Anonymous kh123 June 22, 2013 3:19 PM  

What are your characters wearing Yama, from chapters 35 to 64. I'd look myself, but dA takes too long to load between submissions.

Anonymous bob k. mando June 22, 2013 3:21 PM  

Idle Spectator June 22, 2013 2:43 PM
Do I need to draw you a fucking schematic?



i think you did that already in the paragraph just preceding this question.

another way to say it would be, "hold up an ATM user".

but that would kill all of the humor value in the discussion if you had started with the literal truth rather than the colloquial usage.



Idle Spectator June 22, 2013 2:43 PM
You sound like a very liberal white woman in Teach For America, on her first assignment in Compton and trying to understand the underclass.



oh, bravo! immediately into the rhetoric. you're learning Vox's lessons well.

*golf clap*

Anonymous Godfrey June 22, 2013 3:32 PM  

Most modern SF is really bad. The genre is in need of some serious help. Hopefully some better writers come along in the future.

Blogger cmate June 22, 2013 3:34 PM  

Aliette de Bodard should direct her "performance rage" at those who [i]force[/i]
her to read that which she finds so offensive...

Anonymous Idle Spectator June 22, 2013 3:34 PM  

i think you did that already in the paragraph just preceding this question.

I like to paint pictures with my words. And my penis. Visualize that.

another way to say it would be, "hold up an ATM user".

but that would kill all of the humor value in the discussion if you had started with the literal truth rather than the colloquial usage.


The sole humor value here came from imagining you as a VW bug-driving liberal white woman with a 'please recycle' bumper sticker over in Compton.

This is similar to how people say "ATM machine" even though ATM means automated teller machine, which means technically you are saying automated teller machine machine. I think it rather fucking obvious when I am holding up the ATM machine I am simultaneously holding up the user.

oh, bravo! immediately into the rhetoric. you're learning Vox's lessons well.

*golf clap*


Now, carry my golf clubs like you carry your club feet, but better.

How's that for rhetarderic?

Anonymous bob k. mando June 22, 2013 3:41 PM  

Idle Spectator June 22, 2013 3:34 PM
How's that for rhetarderic?




nope, still not taking offense. better rhetarderic harder.

Blogger tz June 22, 2013 3:44 PM  

Well, she got her point across to the boy who apparently couldn't navigate without a compass. Schools have classrooms where class warfare begins.

But that explains the Iraq war. See the terrorists were in Afghanistan, but we had such rage, we attacked a country totally unrelated to the conflict.

Anonymous Idle Spectator June 22, 2013 3:49 PM  

Idle Spectator June 22, 2013 3:34 PM
How's that for rhetarderic?

nope, still not taking offense. better rhetarderic harder.


Well, yeah, in the same way Forrest Gump never took offense. It's going to be tough to match your rhetarderic armor that strong with my gifted and adroit rhetoric.

Now, show us all up by shitting your pants.

Anonymous GreyS June 22, 2013 4:02 PM  

"She's a better writer than you are, Vox. But then again, many people are."

Forgetting for a moment the subjective nature of such a statement, let's say everyone--even VD-- agrees with that statement: How exactly does literary talent correlate to the subject at hand? Are those with various levels of talent allowed various degrees of violence or violence-tinged speech? Of course not-- which makes you nothing more than an anklebiting fool.

Anonymous MrGreenMan June 22, 2013 4:09 PM  

It's a shame your association is run by radicals who are not native English speakers. This one has a problem with articles and pronouns.

Anonymous MrGreenMan June 22, 2013 4:17 PM  

I remember picking up a book when there was still a Border's Books that was swathed in all these sci-fi awards and medallions - "The Simpson Medal for the Least Smelly Shit This Month" or some such thing. It could well have been written by this woman; all I recall was that I tried to plow through the first page in the store, but the harm done to the language in her writing was unbearable. It was just like what she wrote above where "a boy" or "the boy" would have been appropriate, like "the pointy end". Every sentence was paragraph, and every one started "fat man say ..." or "Japanese man say ...", and I knew it was an affirmative action writer who never had been told her writing was on par with a fifth grade mentally-retarded public school child.

Anonymous Anonagain June 22, 2013 4:36 PM  

Leftists, being void of morality, virtue and godliness, lack the imagination, discipline and spirit to create anything of real value or lasting beauty. They are ever relegated to infiltrating the institutions created by white men. Their inherent inferiority will then proceed to tear down and lay waste to that which was created by their betters - there is no other possible outcome.

Leftists never change anything for the better, they can only destroy that which they are incapable of ever having ever built up. The progressive movement is a bulldozer razing civilization and leaving a pile of rubble in its place.

Blogger IM2L844 June 22, 2013 4:57 PM  

All that Leuko-Androphobic bully's hate speech is makin' me scurd.

Anonymous Garuda1 June 22, 2013 5:07 PM  

Seems to be some variation on the classic "I am rubber you are glue" argument. Vox has a mighty challenge ahead of him, to dismantle such iron-clad feelbad that burns with the (totally justified, of course, yes?) fury of a thousand warren harems (henceforth "warrems")

Anonymous N. K. Racist June 22, 2013 5:11 PM  

"The bigotry in SFF does not merely passively reflect that of US society. It is an active, ongoing, threat. It has done, and is still doing, real harm."

Anonymous Anonagain June 22, 2013 5:18 PM  

There is no SF and no SFWA without white men. These no-talent, rabid, screeching cunts, the shrillest voices of the mob now speaking for the SFWA, will be the death of it - per the dictates of reality.

Blogger Scott June 22, 2013 5:36 PM  

VD, 

How is that libs have imposed at will Massive amounts of their PC, diversity, global warming, LGTB, and other manipulative nonsense on Western culture with so little resistance?  How in just 50 years did the West totally lose its manhood?  I know the seeds of liberalism were carefully planted in the education system and in the MSM, but the cultural transformation that has taken place from say 1960 to now is staggering.  It couldn't have been executed any faster or more thoroughly. 

People talk about war as the answer.  Maybe they're right.  But as I consider that scenario I find it harder to believe.  How would it play out?  There are definitely two sides, ours is much larger in every way than the MSM paints us, but still, how will each side galvanize and divide geographically? There is no North and South as with Vietnam or Korea.  Do we look toward similar situations eg. communism's grip on China w Mao?  How will our established military divide, if at all?  I haven't researched the idea at any depth, just curious if you have thoughts on the subject.

Anonymous Speaker-To-Food June 22, 2013 6:23 PM  

"That white male privilege is a HELL of a drug." - K. Tempest Very Extremely Fat Black Racist Feminist.

Reportedly ate her Fyunch (click)

Anonymous 463734 June 22, 2013 6:25 PM  

I found this quote from a professional lib-buster to be informative:

I’d read “Rules for Radicals” way back in the ’70s when it first came out. It really was only a more studious and purposeful version of “Do It” or “Steal this Book,” the “Yippie” field manuals from the ’60s. The Administration had learned the hard way that you can never give a union enough... Their tactic of choice was to “mau-mau” supervisors and managers, a version of the Alinsky fix, personalize, and humiliate doctrine.

I bought copies of “Rules” for my staff to read and digested the rules. I called in all the players in direct dealings with unions and laid out the defense. I’ll admit that I was totally dishonest in that meeting; I had no intention of defending. I had every intention of mau-mauing the union. My objective was to take out as many union leaders as I could so I could scare the rest of them into submission. The key to that was making sure that the union activists couldn’t have any fun – having fun is an Alinsky key. The Alinsky scheme assumes that your activists are ignorant, childish, lazy, and lack-self control. You should read “Rules” just for the look at what a committed communist organizer really thinks about poor people and Blacks.

I resolved that there was nothing the union could do that would get a reaction from us; we were going to ignore them, even if we had to throw some supervisors under the bus in the process. Thus, the objective was to make the union do ever more dramatic and crazy things trying to get us to react. I didn’t know what it would be, but I was confident that given time, they’d do something stupid enough that I could haul some leaders in and at minimum scare Hell of them and maybe fire one or two.

This is the key: the “community” or union organizers – or Presidents – are insulated; they’re not going to get fired for their actions, they don’t work for you. The followers do and they must be made to pay the price for following those leaders.


When it comes to fighting revolutionary pukes like these SFWA bitches, argument is pointless. Forget argument. Argument is only possible between parties who agree upon a fundamental worldview. Stop thinking of yourself as a debater and adopt the mindset of a warrior -- a guerrilla in an ideological civil war. Sidle your way into their comboxes by playing nice and agreeing with them, then, when they're certain you are One of Them, throw a troll grenade -- the nastier and more outrageous the better. Then sit back and watch the cockroaches scurry. Find photos of them and use them to create humorous image macros, which you then post in every available venue. Mock them. Deride them. Ridicule them. Use insulting, sexist, racist, misogynistic, homophobic terms and images whenever possible -- it's the ideological equivalent of a nuclear-powered EMP.

Above all, do not give them a target. Once you do, you are fair game for their Mau-Mau treatment. Instead, hide in the brush and plink them rhetorically from behind a thousand pseudonyms. Any warrior on our side who doesn't have a dozen on more Google e-mail accounts isn't fighting to win.

Don't argue. There is nothing left to argue about. This isn't politics -- this is clean-shaven HOLY WAR and it's about time we realized it. With this in mind, it makes no sense to stand in front of their guns and slug it out. Be an ideological sniper. Goad them with your bullets of mockery until they are frothing mad and ready to stampede.

Then watch as they run right over the edge of the fucking cliff...

Blogger Shibes Meadow June 22, 2013 6:26 PM  

Speaker-To-Food June 22, 2013 6:23 PM

Reportedly ate her Fyunch(click)


Literal LOL

Anonymous Tiny Whale Racist June 22, 2013 6:44 PM  

"K Tempest Bradford ‏@tinytempest 3h

@scalzi Not that I would ever snuggle with your wife. ... while you were alive. ..."

https://twitter.com/tinytempest/status/348528195190026242

Racial bigots all like one another and joke around on Twitter about new easy chairs, the most interesting thing in their lives. Even more interesting than sleeping cats and racist white privileged cishet men.

How's that segregated bullet-proof room for non-whites going for next year's WisCon, Tiny Extra Large?

If you believe "whites fear us," shouldn't it be the blacks encased in amber or something? As a protective "safer" measure? What about food? If you're sealed in, will you have enough supplies for your voracious appetite?

How about the racially segregated dinner? Let me guess the menu: 10,000 Milky Way bars melted and sculpted into the head of Octavia Butler. Bon appetit, mes racist.

Anonymous Wanderer June 22, 2013 6:50 PM  

"She's a better writer than you are, Vox. But then again, many people are."

Like Sylvia Plath was a better affirmative action poet than Shakespeare?

Blogger LP 999/Eliza June 22, 2013 7:05 PM  

I'm so unimpressed with her, what drivel. I don't believe a word she says no matter what story she spins.

OT: The latest Vogue has an article about a feminist needing and enjoying...wait for it...rough sex. Her self-loathing, torn, hamster spin is F'ism buyers remorse and classic FS (female solipsism).

Anonymous Musashi June 22, 2013 8:17 PM  

This whole "white men" thing is quite amusing, When the muslims and sundry other third-worlders decide to forcibly obtain and utilize white women for their "entertainment", that will be amusing also. Especially amusing will be the part where white men don't bother to intervene on white womens' behalf. Very amusing indeed.

Anonymous Aliette de Racist June 22, 2013 8:30 PM  

Please visit my racist anti-white website. There you will discover whites are too stupid to know the difference between China and Vietnam, and people "outspoken against vampires/werewolves/etc... have prejudice against Hispanics, Blacks, Asians, LGBT people…" In other words, whites.

There you will learn that blogs using the worst possible racial slurs against whites is okay "performance rage" but that the term "half-breed" is "NOT acceptable" in fiction. Mostly cuz I am a half-breed and not white, cuz I have no principles.

At my site, you will see me frequently recommend SF novels by gender and non-whites no one's ever heard of, but that when the great Jack Vance died, I had to ask around if I should read him. I never did cuz he was a colonialist white and a man.

I also have the "Presenting the Cultural Imperialism Bingo Card," which I made with fellow racists, Requires Only That You Hate and Jaymee ("sourdough-faced" whites) Goh. It was also featured on the totally not anti-white site called Racialicious.

Plus I have racist cooking recipes.

http://aliettedebodard.com/

PS: I might be insane.

Anonymous Musashi June 22, 2013 8:39 PM  

So, describing obama as "that kenyan muslim homo half-blood princeling" would be ok, ok?

Anonymous Harsh June 22, 2013 8:42 PM  

The latest Vogue has an article about a feminist needing and enjoying...wait for it...rough sex.

That's good cuz the only way I'd have sex with a feminist is if I punched her in the face a few times.

Anonymous Wanderer June 22, 2013 8:58 PM  

She is just another Affirmative Action Award Winner.

By the way, Bruce Schneier seems to be retarded in his brilliance here:

http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2013/06/finding_sociopa.html

"This fallacy isn't new. It's the same thinking that caused us to intern Japanese-Americans during World War II, stop people in their cars because they're black, and frisk them at airports because they're Muslim."

It's not like we don't have lots of data demonstrating that blacks are seven times higher to murder than whites are and so forth.

So, Bruce, how about you re-run the numbers with the different propensities for violent crime factored in.

Anonymous stg58/Animal Mother June 22, 2013 9:11 PM  

If it makes Bruce feel any better, I get pulled over by cops and I get frisked all the time at airports, and I am like a big box of saltines.

Anonymous zen0 June 22, 2013 9:23 PM  

@ Musashi: So, describing obama as "that kenyan muslim homo half-blood princeling" would be ok, ok?

Good Lord. Its Kenyan-born bi-sexual Sunni Muslim Mulatto Sock Puppet.

I don't know why "Princeling" is required.

Anyway, pay more attention.

Anonymous realmatt June 22, 2013 10:11 PM  

This whole "white men" thing is quite amusing, When the muslims and sundry other third-worlders decide to forcibly obtain and utilize white women for their "entertainment", that will be amusing also. Especially amusing will be the part where white men don't bother to intervene on white womens' behalf. Very amusing indeed.

Considering how many of those poor white women aren't the victims of an invading band of conquerors who just slaughtered their families, but are willing sluts who threw themselves at brown men and found themselves "victimized" afterward, I can't see myself jumping to their rescue either.

Anonymous Matthew June 22, 2013 11:23 PM  

OT: 8 bit audio covers of Muse songs

Anonymous Global Rabbit Jihad June 22, 2013 11:23 PM  

Girl Rising (http://girlrising.com/) also seems to think that girls can do anything.

I suspect they even think that the Mooslim nations can create an all-female army to defeat the West.

Anonymous Godfrey June 22, 2013 11:26 PM  

The little boy should have smacked her in the mouth.

Anonymous dh June 23, 2013 12:09 AM  

It's not like we don't have lots of data demonstrating that blacks are seven times higher to murder than whites are and so forth.

So, Bruce, how about you re-run the numbers with the different propensities for violent crime factored in.


What are testing for? Blackness, or black who will commit a murder (or other crime)?

If you are just testing for blackness, well that's easy. But the math is the same if you are trying to do a secondary screen for other propensities to violence. Unless you test is very very accurate (high 90's), you sweep up loads of false positives, which destroys most of the value of the testing.

Anonymous Garuda1 June 23, 2013 12:17 AM  

@realmatt Considering how many of those poor white women aren't the victims of an invading band of conquerors who just slaughtered their families, but are willing sluts who threw themselves at brown men and found themselves "victimized" afterward, I can't see myself jumping to their rescue either.

There are few women I have more contempt for than those you have just mentioned, good sir.

Anonymous bob k. mando June 23, 2013 12:19 AM  

Scott June 22, 2013 5:36 PM
How in just 50 years did the West totally lose its manhood?




oh, it's been going on a LOT longer than that. Ayn Rand was screaming about this in the 1930s. Russia had already fallen to the Marxists by 1917 ... and ideologically, those are pretty much the same people doing us in.




Harsh June 22, 2013 8:42 PM
That's good cuz the only way I'd have sex with a feminist is if I punched her in the face a few times.




you're doing her wrong.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donkey_punch




Idle Spectator June 22, 2013 3:34 PM
How's that for rhetarderic?

Idle Spectator June 22, 2013 3:49 PM
It's going to be tough to match your rhetarderic armor



where'd you learn to speak? from watching the smurfs? first rhetarderic is speech coming from you then it's one of my attributes for defense? you're going to rhetarderic my rhetarderic with rhetarderic? well, it's a new century. i guess it's time to retire 'smurf' and move on to the next thing.

nevertheless, i'm enjoying the concept of "rhetarderic armor". something like "his rhetarderic armor was of sufficient strength to withstand any magnitude of rhetarderic attack not tipped with a sharp dialectic point".

now i may have to give some thought to filling out the rest of the panoply of an Apathist Militant. will have to make provisions for a frou-frou drink holder on the armor though, otherwise Vox won't have anything to do with it.

Blogger IM2L844 June 23, 2013 12:45 AM  

oh, it's been going on a LOT longer than that. Ayn Rand was screaming about this in the 1930s.

Yes. Wasn't the 30's about the time the Theosophists started infiltrating the Anglicans and kicking off the beginnings of the emergent church movement?

In any event, the exponential rate of change hasn't quite reached 100% vertical on the graph yet, but it is approaching. More has changed in the last 20 years than the previous 60 combined. I expect that trend to continue for a little while longer before the SHTF. Middle aged white Christian men are the least of the liberal's/progressive's worries. They just don't realize it yet.

Anonymous bob k. mando June 23, 2013 1:31 AM  

IM2L844 June 23, 2013 12:45 AM
Wasn't the 30's about the time the Theosophists started infiltrating the Anglicans and kicking off the beginnings of the emergent church movement?



i'm afraid i'm not familiar with what you're talking about, especially with respect to the Anglican church.

Theosophy has been around for centuries and is a gnostic/magical/sometimes almost overtly Satanic system ( see: Blavatsky ). if what you say is true, that the Anglicans permitted themselves to be invaded by Theosophists ... well ... could it happen to a more 'fitting' church? the only reason the Anglicans exist is so the King of England could have a divorce. otherwise they'd still be Roman Catholic.

Anonymous Wanderer June 23, 2013 1:34 AM  

"If you are just testing for blackness, well that's easy. But the math is the same if you are trying to do a secondary screen for other propensities to violence. Unless you test is very very accurate (high 90's), you sweep up loads of false positives, which destroys most of the value of the testing."

It does not destroy the value of the testing for me, since they commit most of the relevant crime. Secondly, the cost of failing to identify a black offender is more serious for non-NAMs people (See all sorts of savage black on white attacks that the media likes to ignore.)

Blogger IM2L844 June 23, 2013 2:04 AM  

Bob, see: J. I. Wedgwood and Charles Webster Leadbeater. Both former Anglican Priests and founding Bishops of The Liberal Catholic Church. There was a lot of back and forth between them and the Anglicans. It was a big deal back in the day. Their legacy continues in several forms today. Paticularly visible, I think in the Episcopal Church, but also the whole emergent shooting match, really.

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Anonymous dh June 23, 2013 3:48 AM  

It does not destroy the value of the testing for me, since they commit most of the relevant crime. Secondly, the cost of failing to identify a black offender is more serious for non-NAMs people (See all sorts of savage black on white attacks that the media likes to ignore.)

I don't follow. I get that there is lots of black on white crime. Got that piece. Unless you are advocating for simply locking up all blacks right now (i.e., regardless of individual criminal liability), you have the problem of separating the violent and non-violent blacks, in order to protect yourself.

If all of that is true, the test has to VERY ACCURATE, or else you'll lockup up a lot more non-violent people vs. violent people.

Anonymous Idle Spectator June 23, 2013 4:57 AM  

where'd you learn to speak? from watching the smurfs?

Is that your favorite TV show, so you can compare notes here?


Come on now, it is easy.

Reach over with your left hand, stick the finger out, and hit the shift key.

You might want to start with the Caps Lock first, then switch over. Think of it as training wheels. He is riding the big-boy bike now.

first rhetarderic is speech coming from you then it's one of my attributes for defense? you're going to rhetarderic my rhetarderic with rhetarderic? well, it's a new century. i guess it's time to retire 'smurf' and move on to the next thing.

In same way that both a shield and armor are defensive, but one is something I wield, one is not. This is your left. This is your right.

nevertheless, i'm enjoying the concept of "rhetarderic armor". something like "his rhetarderic armor was of sufficient strength to withstand any magnitude of rhetarderic attack not tipped with a sharp dialectic point".

Do you enjoy the concept of soup too? It's something like "Bob's rhetarderic skills lead him to believe he could cut his liquid soup with a knife, as it was honed with a sharp dialectic point."

His favorite soup is Cream of Re-tardtard.

now i may have to give some thought to filling out the rest of the panoply of an Apathist Militant. will have to make provisions for a frou-frou drink holder on the armor though, otherwise Vox won't have anything to do with it.

Yes, because it is most important that another man have something to do with it. That's why the design has that backdoor for you. And it's not for Windows 95.



Also, did you shit your pants yet Bob? Your feces are your strongest weapon here.

Use them wisely. And use them alone. No one can take that dignity from you.

Anonymous VD June 23, 2013 5:02 AM  

Get a room already, you two. Your witty banter has grown tedious.

Anonymous Idle Spectator June 23, 2013 5:04 AM  

Thank you for calling it witty. <3 <3 <3

Anonymous Wanderer June 23, 2013 6:30 AM  

"If all of that is true, the test has to VERY ACCURATE, or else you'll lockup up a lot more non-violent people vs. violent people."

You seem to be very dumb. The problem is not the false positives. That only inconveniences blacks and Hispanics.

The problem is the false negatives. That results in the deaths of people like Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom, among others.

Why are you deliberately obfuscating the truth?

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