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Wednesday, July 03, 2013

Regression from carnism

The Vegan Sellout List's quixotic mission:
If you’re no longer vegan, you’re going on the list.
 
The spirits of the billions murdered have risen to deliver: The Vegan Sellout List – an online directory of those who have regressed from moral consistency to moral depravity.

The Vegan Sellout List is our answer to the epidemic of vegan sellouts – those who are aware of the suffering caused by meat, dairy, egg, fur, and leather production, yet choose to look away while the animals suffer.

Selling out veganism is a trend on the upswing, bringing with it swarms of haughty, nose-turning carnists uttering nonsensical buzzwords re: veganism being “privileged”, or “trendy”, critiquing themselves into ethical degeneracy and paleo-terrorism.
I think this one is my favorite example.  And I tend to agree, this Minneapolis woman does merit some form of severe punishment.

"Made us all even eat vegan pumpkin pie for Thanksgiving one year and then found out she closet ate cheeseburgers."

Vegan pumpkin pie?  Stick to the nuts, twigs, and berries, you freakshows.  The thing I find most entertaining about vegans and vegetarians is their attempt to appeal to a "morality" that somehow manages to be simultaneously nonexistent and incoherent.

And look, it's time to point out the truth. No straight man has ever been a vegan and very few outside of India are genuine vegetarians.  They simply fake it in order to have sex with the sort of mentally unbalanced women who believe crystals possess healing powers.

If you want to convert a vegan to carnism, take her to Barcelona.  I once unwittingly corrupted a woman there.  A group of us were out to dinner at a conference, she was sitting next to me, and my plate of pata negra proved too tempting.  I simply offered her a piece, not knowing she was a vegetarian, and she scarfed most of the plate in about ten seconds.  It was like watching a single piranha skeletonize a cow.

She apologized afterwards and explained it was the first meat she'd ordered in seven years. I congratulated her on her recovery, ordered two more plates, and until they arrived, kept a watchful eye on her and a hand on my steak knife, just in case she went for my shoulder.

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109 Comments:

Anonymous Loki Sjalfsainn July 03, 2013 8:04 PM  

Well, as you know, rabbits are herbivores.

Anonymous JAU July 03, 2013 8:12 PM  

So...how do you have a password to this apparently super-secret Vegan site?

Blogger Bob Wallace July 03, 2013 8:15 PM  

Out of curiosity I tried vegetarianism once. I lasted a week, then pulled into a fast-food restaurant and got the juiciest burger I could find. I was in heaven.

Anonymous KKK Tempest Blue Whale Cult, Jabba the Hut's Wife July 03, 2013 8:25 PM  

I'll gladly pay you Tuesday for a Blue Whale carcass today. Let's see; that'd be about 12,000 cubes of pure blubber I could wolf down with flagons of whale oil and then a nice baleen pie with a cheeseburger crust.

I can eat an entire live barn owl just like a python, 'cept I just ram it down my throat with a plunger. Cuz I don't constrict. I can't even bend, really.

I once ate 58 little live chicks during a single episode of Dr. Who.

Anonymous J Jackson July 03, 2013 8:28 PM  

Every vegan I've encountered always hearkens back to some "moment of connection" when they just knew what they were doing was wrong. Some sort of burning-in-the-bosom moment. It's almost as if they describe it as some sort of spiritual movement.

Watching them squirm as they try to explain why eating meat is immoral is pretty funny though.

Anonymous Salt July 03, 2013 8:30 PM  

My niece's wedding was vegetarian. I suffered. At least the bar was stocked.

Anonymous Inane Rambler July 03, 2013 8:37 PM  

I know one of these guys who is so much of a vegan whacko that he refused to eat Kellogg's cereal after finding out that they extracted some of their vitamins from sheep's wool.

Yet he probably owns a few wool sweaters anyways.

Blogger tz July 03, 2013 8:40 PM  

7th day adventists do it for health reasons (lacto-ovo vegetarianism), based on the advice of Ellen White.

OTOH, going Paleo or Primal means eating meat, with only a limited amount of vegetables, far too few to provide nutrients (no grains, starch or sweets).

But then we wouldn't need the cholesterol or type 2 diabetes or other drugs big-pharma makes so much money on. Who would have thought the food pyramid was actually a ponzi scheme.

Anonymous jay c July 03, 2013 8:41 PM  

yes, my nephew got VEGAN tattooed across his throat and then he married that woman. I see a severe (and very early) mid-life crisis in his future.

Anonymous kawaika July 03, 2013 8:50 PM  

My four year old niece was over recently and she enjoyed looking at all the critters I have running around, especially the turkeys. One night we cooked the ~50 lbs turkey we had been saving and my niece started crying. "I don't want to eat those turkeys!" After several minutes of explaining that this was not one of the turkeys she saw, etc., etc., she finally tried it. After taking a bite she had a Gollum-grin: "Yummy turkey". Had no problem gobbling the rest of the corpse of a tortured bird.

Anonymous elkay14 July 03, 2013 8:52 PM  

I ate vegan for a year a little over a decade ago, but not for the sake of some moral code. It was an attempt to find health. It failed utterly. I went to my lowest weight of my adult life, which is saying something since I'm naturally very thin. I look at pictures of myself from that time period and cringe. I looked terrible.

I've been eating along the lines of Paleo for over two years now and have never been better. There's something about eating entirely opposite of the way we're told is the right way...

And yes, my blood work results are exemplary.

Anonymous FUBAR Nation Ben July 03, 2013 8:54 PM  

Tz, Paleo isn't low-carb. Paleo is about eating real food.

Anonymous stg58/Animal Mother July 03, 2013 8:54 PM  

Questions about vegetarianism? Let Jim Gaffigan guide you.

Blogger Cinco July 03, 2013 8:55 PM  

I have often wonder what goes through a vegan's mind when an animal attacks and eats another animal. Do they just totally panic? Do they call 911? I mean it can't just be humans eating cheeseburgers that drives them to this lunacy, can it?

Anonymous realmatt July 03, 2013 8:58 PM  

Yes it's been established that in every group, 95% of the members will be retards.

Anonymous Carlotta July 03, 2013 9:01 PM  

Sorry for the OT...
Vox your an old guy and no longer needed.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2355012/Yes-CAN-sex-date-New-dating-guide-turns-The-Rules-head-advice-sexting-dating-dress-codes.html

Anonymous Roundtine July 03, 2013 9:07 PM  

I've eaten dog. Don't worry, they only breed the tasty dogs for meat, not the cute ones! Unless they're cute and tasty.

Anonymous Logan July 03, 2013 9:14 PM  

Oh Vox, you just need to listen to some Morrissey. He's very wise, you know.

Blogger crazyivan498 July 03, 2013 9:24 PM  

Grok on!

Anonymous Logan July 03, 2013 9:24 PM  

Speaking of that guy, he wouldn't be on the Jimmy Kimmel show because the guys from the show Duck Dynasty were scheduled to be on. He called them serial killers. Haven't laughed that hard since the first time I saw the diarrhea scene in Dumb and Dumber.

Blogger Ingemar July 03, 2013 9:32 PM  

My father once got a Japanese strict vegetarian to eat his beef sashimi.

Blogger kudzu bob July 03, 2013 9:45 PM  

Veganism should be quietly encouraged, because some day all the oil will run out and then we'll need a slave race.

Anonymous David July 03, 2013 9:45 PM  

"She apologized afterwards and explained it was the first meat she'd ordered in seven years."

That was her malnourished body seizing the moment to load up on the proteins, fats and possibly the vitamin B12 she had been deficient in for so long.

Blogger swiftfoxmark2 July 03, 2013 9:55 PM  

I was Vegan for Lent a few times. This year I just did no carbs.

Blogger Amy July 03, 2013 9:55 PM  

Cinco, vegans will feed their cats and dogs vegan diets.

Fur realzz.

Anonymous Anonagain July 03, 2013 9:57 PM  

Here's Joaquin Freakshow Phoenix for PETA, dramatizing a fish dying. No surprise that all comments are held for approval. The video was uploaded Feb 2013 and a grand total of 5 comments have been approved. Food Nazis gotta gestapo.

I just took the last bite of a yummy, juicy, pan-seared sirloin steak, with a tossed green salad on the side. It was totally satisfying. I'll give up eating meat when they pry it from my cold, dead hands.

Blogger Nate July 03, 2013 10:00 PM  

I ate a vegan once. Tasted like chicken. Made me suspicious.

Anonymous Vidad July 03, 2013 10:01 PM  

My family went vegetarian for a year. We basically bought gold/silver instead of meat. Best decision ever. Now we can afford steak.

At this point, we raise and slaughter a good chunk of our meat. There's nothing like a home-raised chicken or duck. It's not even in the same species as that Tyson crap.

Anonymous Anonagain July 03, 2013 10:02 PM  

No straight man has ever been a vegan

No way this side of the apocalypse would I date a vegan or vegetarian

Anonymous Vidad July 03, 2013 10:02 PM  

And Paleo is awesome. I think I'll get a "carnist" tattoo.

Anonymous Harsh July 03, 2013 10:06 PM  

Let those freaks go vegan. When the revolution comes they'll be too weak to fight.

Anonymous Anonymous July 03, 2013 10:09 PM  

joetexx here:

Vox, I understand why pata negra tumbled your vegan acquaintance off the wagon. (To me, it's jamon iberico). I didn't know what pata negra meant till Iooked it up just now.

I've eaten it once, in Florida, shortly after it first became available in the States. In a giant melon/pear salad with greens and cheeses. I could tell it was not Serrano, which I had eaten before. When I asked my host what it was, he told me Iberico and I didn't believe him till he showed me the wrapper.

Iberico is now available in Texas, but out of my price range. I'll get a small package of Serrano from time to time; wonderful stuff.

Anonymous Vidad July 03, 2013 10:21 PM  

Nova is delicious stuff too. I'd eat it more often, but I'm afraid of turning into an evvvvvviiiiiillll joooooooooooo.

Anonymous The CronoLink July 03, 2013 10:33 PM  

Paleo-terrorism... I can dig that; got a nice ring to it!

Anonymous Anonagain July 03, 2013 10:34 PM  

Speaking of jamon, I've been looking up recipes for one of our traditional homemade cured meats called bondiola. It's very easy to prepare, and takes about a month for it to cure.

I have an Argentine friend who knows how to make it, and it's delicious. I've been on a strict diet with zero chemicals, starches, grains, or sugars for almost a year now and am having a hankering for cold cuts, so I thought I might give this a try.

Here's one online recipe for bondiola but it's in Spanish. There are none originally in English.

Also, I thought that curing meats would be a good thing to know for our uncertain future.

Anonymous Anonagain July 03, 2013 10:39 PM  

And with all the feral pigs running around my aunt's place, I figure a good bondiola recipe would come in handy.

Anonymous Josh July 03, 2013 10:39 PM  

Jamon is so freaking good. It just melts in your mouth.

Anonymous NateM July 03, 2013 10:41 PM  

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Anonymous Anonagain July 03, 2013 10:51 PM  

Nova is delicious stuff too. I'd eat it more often, but I'm afraid of turning into an evvvvvviiiiiillll joooooooooooo.

Lox! Oh yeah. It's wonderful. Love, love, love, smoked salmon, or any kind of salmon really. I knew a chef who made his own cold-smoked salmon - it was heavenly. I could stuff myself with that.

Anonymous Anonagain July 03, 2013 10:54 PM  

Blogger is eating my comments!

Anonymous Anonymous July 03, 2013 10:55 PM  

joetexx here:

Anonagain, bondiola looks good. The cut looks like loin to me.

I keep pink brining salt on hand and brine shoulder, loin or chops from time to time. Three to four days in the fridge and it's good though a full week is better.
Dry curing a whole ham with packed rock salt is little beyond my physical capacity in my sunset years.

Brining, curing, smoking and pickling are great skills for the Bad Times.
I've pickled trout and even Gulf redfish. Trout and salmon can be easily smoked with wood chips in a hibachi.

Vinegar is great for pickling. I once read a household book written by a 19th century wife, who informed her readers; "To purchase vinegar in small quantities is false economy; a household of moderate size should obtain at least a hogshead at a time. "

Anonymous Anonagain July 03, 2013 11:11 PM  

Anonagain, bondiola looks good. The cut looks like loin to me.

That's what my friend uses, pork loin, but according to what I've been reading in these recipes it's the upper shoulder and neck part.

Brining, curing, smoking and pickling are great skills for the Bad Times.

That's what I want to start learning. I'd rather have someone who knows teach me because these processes take a long time. Testing different preparations on my own would be so time consuming, and I don't have the patience.

Cold-smoked salmon is delicious. I imagine that other fish as are good too.

Anonymous Stickwick July 03, 2013 11:15 PM  

No straight man has ever been a vegan and very few outside of India are genuine vegetarians.

One of my colleagues is vegetarian, but I've only ever seen him eat french fries and pasta. I'm guessin' this is pretty typical. They should perhaps refer to themselves as starcharians.

Anonymous Mudz July 03, 2013 11:20 PM  

My mum went on a vegetarian diet when I was a kid, and I decided I'd try it too. I lasted until I had my first taste of celery. About 40 seconds.

Anonymous Anonagain July 03, 2013 11:24 PM  

Joetexx, here's a diagram of piggy and all his tasty cuts. See where the bondiola comes from.

Anonymous Equestrian025 July 03, 2013 11:24 PM  

So, the leftist worldview of the day is; lust, insurmountable, gluttony, entirely controllable through force of will/shame. Carry on.

Anonymous Strange Aeons July 03, 2013 11:28 PM  

My wife used to take a kung fu class where the inner circle of ranking students were all militant vegans, and any extra-curricular outings revolved exclusively around the preferences of the food cult.
The head instructor had a 10 year old boy whom she had indoctrinated into said dietary restrictions, and the boy tried to parrot his indoctrination to my wife, a devout carnivore. She allowed him a couple moments to preach, then quietly whispered to him "My food poops on your food." The boy had no idea how to reply to that, and looked as if he was considering breaking out into tears. Of note, he had also begun to exhibit signs of effeminate behavior.
Suffice it to say, she has been disincluded from the inner circle and no longer attends the class she once enjoyed.

Anonymous Anonagain July 03, 2013 11:38 PM  

She allowed him a couple moments to preach, then quietly whispered to him "My food poops on your food."

Heh. Your wife's got chili.

Losing her standing in that coven was a good thing.

Anonymous paradox July 03, 2013 11:48 PM  

Here in NC it's called paleo-terrorism without a license.

Anonymous kh123 July 03, 2013 11:59 PM  

Depending on one's musical tastes, some here might recall a band called Earth Crisis.

Besides being self-styled straight edge (don't drink, smoke, do drugs, etc), they had songs that encouraged the assassination of anyone who worked in an industry that utilized animals in any way, from Proctor & Gamble lab coats to dairy farmers to burger stands to shoe cobblers. There were several cases where fools committed vandalism, breaking + entering, arson, etc, against businesses they felt fell under the above. Not surprisingly, they usually sported the typical "Victory Records/Vegan4life" sleeve or neck tats. (Earth Crisis were signed to Victory Records.)

Straight edge kids, and the bands, became quasi gangsta near the mid to late 90's, Olde English stomach tats and bandanas aplenty. "Breaking the edge" meant you either smoked a joint, ate cheese, or drank a Lipton, which besides ostracism would result in a beatdown if the parties involved happened to be at the same show that evening. This was before Youtube and iPods.

But amazingly enough, Earth Crisis had the perfunctory plethora of other left wing diatribes to exhaust per album - one of which was the railing against the reality of gender, just-then fashionable in HC circles. As you can see, the rabbits were receptive.

One of their albums was titled "Gomorrah's Season Ends", presumably as an allusion to the rise of homosexuality and white boys throwing fellatory gang signs, both of which the band approved of.

A typical Victory Records fan, complete with hoops you could fly all four 9/11 planes through. (And these guys were from NY. Possibly on the phone with Leo Wanta during each of their recording sessions. A Dread moment, people...)

Keep in mind for this one flagship band, there were many dozens - maybe hundreds - more at the time, many on the same label, some with even dumber lyrical manifestos than these guys. All of them hoping to reach some kind of high cultural water mark with their Raiders of the Lost Ark prophesying of the animal exodus from McEgypt.

Ironically enough, I always thought the singer sounded like he had a fat Church's wing or drumstick in his mouth.

In any case, this is where not a few white kids got their vegan and SWPL schooling proper.

Anonymous Anonymous July 04, 2013 12:02 AM  

joetexx here:

Anonagain, now that I look closer at the photo I can tell bondiola is shoulder. Peepers ain't what they used to be.

Looking at that diagram of the costillar, the back, makes me think of something I should have asked Vox.

Vox, have you ever eaten Lardo de colonnata, the salt-cured fatback made in the Apennines? I've heard people rave about it,and as far as I can tell it is not obtainable this side of the pond, even in specialty meat shops. When I ask about it, clerks who have obviously never heard of it look doubtful and will offer me something like pancetta.

Anonymous Will Best July 04, 2013 12:08 AM  

One of my colleagues is vegetarian, but I've only ever seen him eat french fries and pasta. I'm guessin' this is pretty typical. They should perhaps refer to themselves as starcharians.

I know a few starcharians. Though its more like 60% from starch, 15% from vegetables, and 25% from processed sugar flavoring sauces/dips and oil.

The two that are married apparently don't seem to have any idea what that does to their wives because their wives are on the heavy and continuing to gain weight.

Anonymous Titus Didius Tacitus July 04, 2013 12:11 AM  

"And look, it's time to point out the truth. No straight man has ever been a vegan and very few outside of India are genuine vegetarians. They simply fake it in order to have sex with the sort of mentally unbalanced women who believe crystals possess healing powers."

I've been "vegetarian" when needed to avoid having to eat mystery meat on a multicultural menu.

Whatever weird thing they do with it, if it's only vegetables I can probably eat it without gagging or throwing up. (Or wishing I had thrown up whatever it was.)

The more multiculturalism presents us with banquets like in Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom, the more useful vegetarianism becomes.

Anonymous Anonymous July 04, 2013 12:24 AM  

joetexx here:

Starcharians, eh?

The ultimate starch feast is probably the chip butty, a fried potato sandwich on a muffin or roll.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Chip_Muffin_2364555437.jpg

Anonymous Molon Rouge July 04, 2013 12:46 AM  

But, i bet she is a late, late term birthed abortion lover.

Heaven forbid we hurt a chicken egg!

Anonymous The Scolds' Bridle July 04, 2013 12:49 AM  

Perhaps such a woman could be coaxed into fellating wicked metat-eating men, as an act of symbolic consumption, kind of like how pegging men before sex is the new foreplay among penis-envying feminists.

C'mon Sally, show that man what it "feels like" to be consumed! Consumption is a social construct!

Anonymous The Scolds' Bridle July 04, 2013 12:50 AM  

*meat-eating*

Anonymous Free Northerner July 04, 2013 1:03 AM  

Off-topic, but I think Vox may enjoy this:
http://www.maryrobinettekowal.com/journal/dear-twelve-rabid-weasels-of-sfwa-please-shut-the-fuck-up/

Are you one of the 12?

Blogger JCclimber July 04, 2013 1:16 AM  

NAVALT.

That said, there are a lot of "vegetarians" who don't know crap about healthy eating. They are doing it because it is trendy, or their gamma/gay yoga instructor said they should do it, or some save the earth reason. The problem with most of them is that their frickin' entire world seems to revolve around it, and they can't seem to keep their stupid traps shut when someone else is eating meat.

I've had people apologize!!! to me for eating meat in front of me after finding out I'm a vegetarian. Unbelievable. Just goes to show how preachy some of the vegans can be, that someone might think I'd be offended or something. Or maybe they thought I couldn't enjoy my food as I struggled to avoid attacking their plate.

By the way, these vegan obsessors aren't funny in the way that the SFWA are funny. Perhaps because they are just too obsessed, it's like watching a life trainwreck in slow motion.

Anonymous Anonymous July 04, 2013 1:16 AM  

joetexx here:

Anonagain;

If you have a hankering for cold cuts you might try carpaccio. No cooking required. Very thinly sliced steak, or tuna or salmon. Easy to do if the meat is partially frozen. Pound with a mallet and serve with greens and a vinegar oil dressing.

Anonymous hausfrau July 04, 2013 1:17 AM  

Tom McNaughton, of Fathead fame, covered this on his blog a while ago. I assume he would have a keener interest in keeping track of these things as he is a proponent of the carnist view.
My sister and her husband are vegetarian/sometime vegans. My sis has always had a self-righteous streak. When we were teens she was a big time churchian. She even cornered me on a number of occasions, going on a little tirade about how I don't share my feelings about Jesus like her and her friends so I must not be Christian and I needed to accept Christ.....blah, blah, blah....I guess she forgot that she started going to the church youthgroup because I did. Anyway, flash forward a few years and she is now a liberal, very socialist, presbyterian, supporter of gay marriage. Her husband is an atheist though they have yet to clue my parents into this. I once got into an uncomfortable discussion with her about morality and mentioned that atheists can't have any real objective morality. SHe looked at me sharply and said "You think atheists can't have morals?!" I just smiled awkwardly and said yes I'm sure your husband does. ....Veganism appeals to a certain kind of person who is always looking for a movement. They are broken somewhere inside and need to feel superior to the common Joe out there.

Anonymous Aliette de Racist: extraterrestrial othered freak from battlecreek July 04, 2013 1:17 AM  

My parents shot me from Vega in a rocket when I was a baby. Being a diminutive half-breed from the mating of a Vegan and a shit tree, the Vegans would never accept me. During the 25 light year voyage, I passed through a cloud of noxious ether which warped my mind and appearance. My tin can fell into the outskirts of Paris and I was found with the other garbage by two morons. The high gravity makes me weak. I am tired all the time. My alien overlord parents named me Aliette and now I write fiction about the humans I hate, especially the sourdough-faced ones. They remind me of Vegan cow-worms with their pale skin and round eyes. Ick. Hate this place. Hate it.

Anonymous jlw July 04, 2013 1:35 AM  

I once played in a garage band and we had a song about cannibals called "Don't Give Me That Cold Shoulder."

Anonymous Anonagain July 04, 2013 1:36 AM  

Very thinly sliced steak, or tuna or salmon.

I was turned off to any kind of raw meat after my sister developed a weird skin disorder that lasted months after eating some raw fish at a Japanese restaurant. I appreciate the suggestion, but I'll pass, Joetexx. I just need to learn these curing techniques.

Anonymous Gen. Kong, Supreme PETA Kommandant July 04, 2013 2:07 AM  

.... the original PETA, that is. (People who Eat Tasty Animals).

If God didn't intend for us to eat animals, why did he make them out of meat? - "Confederate soldier"

Anonymous Toby Temple July 04, 2013 2:12 AM  

Release the veeeeeiigan!

And embrace the carnis within!!

This is the path to gastronomical bliss.

Anonymous Eric Ashley July 04, 2013 2:24 AM  

Paleo-terrorism...travelling back in time to wipe out some guy in hoping that you end up wiping out your enemies in the Present....interesting that a guy named CronoLink...short for Chronological Linkage aka time travel proposes this...Veeellly Intweresting...strokes beard thoughtfully.

Blogger Brad Andrews July 04, 2013 3:02 AM  

An amazing thing is that most of them wholeheartedly support killing infant children before they are born, regardless of any suffering they endure.

Anonymous VryeDenker July 04, 2013 3:03 AM  

If you think about it, bacon is just metabolized vegetables and grains.

Anonymous Rockmegaman July 04, 2013 3:12 AM  

I'm a straight male and vegetarian. Just born that way. Thanks.

Anonymous Toby Temple July 04, 2013 3:20 AM  

Can some of you ask a vegan friend what they feel about the balut?

It's tasty, by the way.

OpenID cailcorishev July 04, 2013 3:24 AM  

Crow of MST3K, answering question posed by movie: "How do animals learn? Well, as long as they learn to taste good, I don't really care."

Anonymous Noah B. July 04, 2013 4:14 AM  

And of course most of these vegans are pro-abortion. Killing babies is fine. Chicken sandwiches are MURDER.

Anonymous The CronoLink July 04, 2013 4:47 AM  

"Paleo-terrorism...travelling back in time to wipe out some guy in hoping that you end up wiping out your enemies in the Present"

Dude, stop smoking that crap

OpenID herenvardo July 04, 2013 5:21 AM  

If we weren't meant to eat animals, then [desperate, hungry voice] WHY ARE THEY MADE OF MEAT??!!!

Anonymous scoobius dubious July 04, 2013 5:39 AM  

For a while I used to date this very pretty girl who was quite fond of steak and seafood (you should have seen her expertly dissect a lobster). One time we were talking about food and she said, "You know, if I really thought hard about it, I suppose I might become a vegetarian. But then I would have to spend a lot of time thinking about what I would eat or not eat, and that would sort of make me into an asshole."

I shoulda married that gal.

Anonymous Rosalys July 04, 2013 6:25 AM  

I'm a Carnist and proud of it!

Anonymous Rosalys July 04, 2013 6:44 AM  

My daughter dated a vegan once who ate mostly carrots. Pastiest, most unhealthy looking guy I'd ever seen.

Anonymous Herman the German July 04, 2013 6:47 AM  

Hey, as long as you pair those carrots with a nice Schnitzel, you've got MY attention. The Lord _did_ give us bicuspeds, did he not? ;-)

Anonymous Rosalys July 04, 2013 6:53 AM  

Loki Sjalfsainn - "Well, as you know, rabbits are herbivores."

Check this out.

http://www.debmark.com/rabbits/faq/eatyoung.htm

Blogger Amy July 04, 2013 7:35 AM  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63NNuG-6-hQ

Very funny.

Anonymous Steveo July 04, 2013 7:35 AM  

Meat is murder...
Tasty, tasty murder.

One of my favorite T's

Blogger Doom July 04, 2013 7:37 AM  

I saved my last woman type from vegetarianism. Even now that I am gone she stocks her freezer with beef! Now, to be fair, as house cook, I offered enough vegetables that she could live on them. I simply then cooked meat for me. The oblations were beyond her ability to ignore. Now, I tried to keep her vegetarian through remarks about willpower and such. Literally, in my case, it was more meat for me. To no good ends though. Still, it was worth watching her spew about the horrors of butchering animals with beef fat running down her face. *grins*

Yeah, baby, I know. Next lets talk about how all sex is rape while I use you to readjust the mattress? The Lord knows I like women for more than just their looks.

Why did I cook, you ask? Because I wasn't about to eat vegetables! Or that white oriental stuff, like a vegetable cheese without taste and a nasty texture! I prefer offal (which actually is quite good if cooked correctly). By the way, I did find vegetables to be delectable. Drown steamed grass in butter and... well... Yum. Now, on my own again, it's meat, with a side of meat, and for dessert? Meat. Meat, meat, meat, butter, milk, lard, and more meat. Growing some stuff this year, so might have corn, turnips, kohlrabi, and jalapeno to habanero, and tomatoes. But... with meat!

Anonymous Anonymous July 04, 2013 7:43 AM  

Vegetarian women think vegetarian men are less masculine than carnist men.
http://www.livescience.com/20370-people-vegetarians-manly.html

Anonymous Jeigh Di July 04, 2013 7:49 AM  

Rockmegaman July 04, 2013 3:12 AM I'm a straight male and vegetarian. Just born that way. Thanks

You drank milk when you were a baby, didn't you?
No matter. Ben Franklin one remarked, "Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy." I can only add, so is bacon.
You ought to try some, Rockmegaman. It will change your life.

Anonymous Mr. B.A.D. July 04, 2013 8:57 AM  

I've done a 21 day Daniel fast. It was difficult.

Anonymous Godfrey July 04, 2013 9:24 AM  

Stop killing and eating plants! It's murder.

Anonymous LL July 04, 2013 9:53 AM  

It's immoral to eat animals but it's ok to starve your baby to death.

http://naturalhygienesociety.org/diet-veganbaby.html

By the way, my daughter dated a boy who would be on again, off again with the veganism. I'm so glad they broke up. That sort of wishy-washy behavior is unacceptable. Her boyfriend now, I LOVE him. He comes over for dinner at least once a week and eats a metric ass ton of meat and sends the occasion "I love you"s through my daughter in texting. Heh

Blogger Andre B July 04, 2013 10:40 AM  

Alright, here goes a serious question, even though it may seem like a joke.

According to Genesis, we were made to eat herbs, vegetables and fruits.

Genesis 1:30 "And to every beast of the earth and to every bird of the heavens and to everything that creeps on the earth, everything that has the breath of life, I have given every green plant for food"

Only later, God permits man to eat animals:

Genesis 9:3 "Every moving thing that lives shall be food for you. And as I gave you the green plants, I give you everything."

We also have the promise that, in the New Earth, we will be back to being vegetarians:

Isaiah 11:6-9 "The wolf shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the young goat, and the calf and the lion and the fattened calf together; and a little child shall lead them. The cow and the bear shall graze; their young shall lie down together; and the lion shall eat straw like the ox. The nursing child shall play over the hole of the cobra, and the weaned child shall put his hand on the adder's den. They shall not hurt or destroy in all my holy mountain; for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the Lord as the waters cover the sea."

Doesn't that imply that there IS a sort of morality in not eating animals? God has permitted us to eat meat, but it certainly seems like that was not His original plan, at all.

I am not a vegetarian, I love eating meat. But I can't shake this feeling that while God permits me to eat meat freely, that's not exactly a natural state of affairs is God's eyes.

Anonymous hausfrau July 04, 2013 11:02 AM  

I am not a vegetarian, I love eating meat. But I can't shake this feeling that while God permits me to eat meat freely, that's not exactly a natural state of affairs is God's eyes.

My sister brought this question to me. Lions would be vegetarians too in the original garden. Remember the fish's and loaves? Jesus gave the crowd meat did he not? We have a comparatively short digestive track for a supposed vegetarian animal. We produce elastin, a digestive enzyme only produced by meat eaters to digest meat. If God meant us to eat veggies why is meat eating almost universal? I would have to say that whatever God's original plan was its quite clear he permits us to eat meat for the time being.

Anonymous p-dawg July 04, 2013 11:30 AM  

I've switched to a mostly meat diet just so I can offset a few of those scrawny veggietardians.

Anonymous MendoScot July 04, 2013 11:32 AM  

No straight man has ever been a vegan and very few outside of India are genuine vegetarians.

A colleague's friend married an Indian woman and became strictly vegetarian. My friend, with more than a touch of malice, was commiserating with him just before Thanksgiving. He says that the guy got a faraway look in his eyes and said, "You know, once a year, I'm prepared to consider turkey a vegetable."

Blogger James Dixon July 04, 2013 12:07 PM  

> But I can't shake this feeling that while God permits me to eat meat freely, that's not exactly a natural state of affairs is God's eyes.

Well, it is and it isn't. It's more complicated than it seems.

Most people can't even digest raw fresh meat (how the orientals handle raw sushi is something I haven't looked into). It has to be aged and/or cooked before it's edible. We were originally hunter gatherers who found old meat left behind by the carnivores and scavenged it. That's also why we're so sensitive to the scent of carrion. The gag reflex it produces keeps us from eating meat that's gone bad, which was a hazard of scavenging old meat. So yes, we're made to eat meat, but not freshly killed meat.

Nonetheless, at least small quantities of meat are almost essential for our diet. It's extremely difficult to replace the necessary nutrients meat provides with vegetables.

Blogger Andre B July 04, 2013 12:14 PM  

"Nonetheless, at least small quantities of meat are almost essential for our diet. It's extremely difficult to replace the necessary nutrients meat provides with vegetables."

"Almost" being the key word here. Because in God's original purpose, He'd have had means to provide us with a rich and satisfying diet comprised entirely of vegetables, right? We may not be able to do so in our civilized society, but that doesn't mean God couldn't in a pre-fallen world.

Anonymous stg58/Animal Mother July 04, 2013 12:35 PM  

My dad had Ingrid Newkirk on his show once in the 1980's, and worked her into the "eating vegetables is murder" corner. The poor woman admitted she didn't know what we should eat, right before she hung up on him.

Anonymous GreyS July 04, 2013 1:33 PM  

"One of my colleagues is vegetarian, but I've only ever seen him eat french fries and pasta. I'm guessin' this is pretty typical. They should perhaps refer to themselves as starcharians."

Same with a few of my friends and relatives. French fries, pasta, pizza, and beans.

The funny part about watching vegs eat is how they must constantly trick their bodies into believing everything is meat-- Faux hot dogs, faux burger patties, faux sausage.

I asked one of them once why they think that they always crave meat and have to trick themselves into not having it. She said it was the culture which made them believe that meat is superior to non-meat and that since she was raised in the meat culture her brain thinks meat is better for the body when it actually is not.

Anonymous TheVillageIdiotRet July 04, 2013 1:53 PM  

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Blogger liam barrett July 04, 2013 5:00 PM  

Russell brand being the exception with regards to pandering to vegan women.

Blogger James Dixon July 04, 2013 7:03 PM  

> He'd have had means to provide us with a rich and satisfying diet comprised entirely of vegetables, right?

We have absolutely no way of knowing. Any assumptions on our part would be nonsensical.

Blogger Da St July 05, 2013 12:54 PM  

Meat is crap. It damages you from first to last. It rots in you, and spreads atheromas throughout your body as you advance through your life eating eat day by day. It adds its fats to your body , inevitably, and if you're a typical meat eater you'll be overweight by 30, way overweight by 45 and obese by 55. You're also likely suffering from the results of the accumulations of the fat: High blood pressure (caused by blood being pumped by atheroma-narrowed blood vessels throughout your body), impotence (atheroma-narrowed blood vessels in your genitals), heart disease (atheroma-narrowed blood vessels in your heart), just for a few examples.

Meat sure tastes good (salted and seasoned), though. So does lead.

Vegan heterosexual.

Anonymous OregonMuse July 05, 2013 1:05 PM  

My daughter went vegetarian about a year ago. She said she didn't like the cruel conditions under which the animals are forced to live, then slaughtered. But what about shrimp? Are there some sort of shrimp torture vats I don't know about?

Anonymous Ollie July 05, 2013 1:17 PM  

@Da St:

Socialism is crap. It damages you from first to last. It rots your brain, and spreads poverty throughout your nation as bureaucrats advance through your economy taxing everything in sight. It adds more people to an ever-more unsustainable welfare system, inevitably, and if you're a typical socialist you'll be deliberately unemployed by 20, on full-time welfare by 25 and on a host of other handouts by 30. You're also likely suffering from the results of the accumulation of government waste: high crime (caused by statist dissolution of the family unit and other social institutions), widespread ignorance (caused by distraction and propaganda endlessly pumped out by state-sanctioned media and educational institutions), dismally low economic growth (thanks to widespread economic mismanagement), just for a few examples.

Socialism sure sounds good (on paper), though. So does the average cult.

Capitalist (actual) heterosexual.
*Fixed it.*

Anonymous Cato July 05, 2013 1:25 PM  

Veganism isn't about food, it's about finding an excuse to feel morally superior to others. People used to do that with religion but that ain't as trendy now. The human creature was built by Nature and Nature's God as an omnivore and will always get its best health results by eating all manner of food with minimal processing. A steak is better than sausage and fresh broccoli is better than stuff that's been cooked then frozen. Common sense, really. But Vegans will try to tell you that getting half your nutrition by manmade supplements (many of which ironically come from animal sources) is somehow healthier.

Anonymous Cato July 05, 2013 1:33 PM  

@Da St: I eat largely minimally processed foods including a lot of beef, fish, and chicken, and I find that I have none of the health problems you mention. I'm 31, my weight's within 5% of recommended for my height, and have no non-genetic health issues. Balanced and sane diets resembling what nature intended combined with exercise can work wonders for your health.

Blogger Ragin' Dave July 05, 2013 1:51 PM  

Your body runs on proteins and fats. Your brain runs on carbohydrates (sugars). Your muscles burn sugars in activity, and uses protein to repair themselves in rest.

You need both. We were meant to be omnivores, and anyone who denies that fact may as well throw science out the window and just admit that they're in a religious cult.

Anonymous Eric Ashley July 05, 2013 3:29 PM  

The Human was originally vegetarian. We know this from simple logic drawn from the history in the Bible. But the Fall and the subsequent genetic entropy (Joseph of Coat of Many Colors fame said...I stink cause I'm a wimp unlike my fathers because I die at 120 yrs.) made it needful for us to eat meat. So God endorsed it for us.

Plants are not alive in the Biblical sense.

Anonymous elkay14 July 05, 2013 3:36 PM  

"Meat is crap. It damages you from first to last. It rots in you, and spreads atheromas throughout your body as you advance through your life eating eat day by day. It adds its fats to your body , inevitably, and if you're a typical meat eater you'll be overweight by 30, way overweight by 45 and obese by 55. You're also likely suffering from the results of the accumulations of the fat: High blood pressure (caused by blood being pumped by atheroma-narrowed blood vessels throughout your body), impotence (atheroma-narrowed blood vessels in your genitals), heart disease (atheroma-narrowed blood vessels in your heart), just for a few examples.

Meat sure tastes good (salted and seasoned), though. So does lead."

This is so incorrect it is hilarious. Cardiovascular disease is caused by inflammation, not fat. Healthy fats do not cause inflammation -- certain plants and processed plant material do. By your description, I should be dying or at the very least suffering and fat. 41yrs old, 6'1" and 170 lbs, blood pressure normal and cholesterol normal. I eat a *lot* of meat and saturated fats, but note that they are from grass-fed sources. Grain-fed animals are themselves not healthy and can contribute to problems if you overeat them. I can tell the difference between a grass-fed steak and a grain-fed by sight.

The biggest inflammation contributors are: grains and legumes, seed oils, and sugar. What do vegans and vegetarians eat? Hmmm...

Anonymous Jeigh Di July 05, 2013 5:04 PM  

Andre B
Bear in in mind that God's edict allowing man to eat meat was after the flood. There is no telling how many plants were rendered extinct by that event, and there is a theory that afterward not all necessary nutrition could be acquired from plants. That may be the reason there are blood sucking life forms; the plants that formerly sustained them no longer exist.

Blogger James Dixon July 06, 2013 11:24 AM  

> if you're a typical meat eater you'll be overweight by 30, way overweight by 45 and obese by 55.

Nope, nope, and nope. In fact, my weight goes up when I eat less meat and down when I eat more.

> You're also likely suffering from the results of the accumulations of the fat: High blood pressure (caused by blood being pumped by atheroma-narrowed blood vessels throughout your body),

Nope.

> impotence (atheroma-narrowed blood vessels in your genitals),

Nope.

> heart disease (atheroma-narrowed blood vessels in your heart),

None that's been detected.

Care to try again?

> We were meant to be omnivores, and anyone who denies that fact may as well throw science out the window and just admit that they're in a religious cult.

I would say more as a statement of fact. We "ARE" omnivores. But otherwise, yes.

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