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Saturday, August 31, 2013

Obama: Syria is on

Or maybe not.  I have to wonder if Obama is hoping Congress will bail him out by refusing to provide the authorization sought:
President Obama announced Saturday that he has concluded the United States should take military action against Syrian President Bashar al-Assad and his regime for using chemical weapons on civilians, but will first seek authorization from Congress.
My suspicions regarding this are mostly aroused by the fact that historically, most military actions haven't waited on Congressional summer vacations.

UPDATE: Oops.  It turns out the rebels are even admitting that they were responsible for the chemical weapons attack:

"In a report that is sure to be considered blockbuster news, the rebels told Dale Gavlak, a reporter who has written for the Associated Press, NPR and BBC, they are responsible for the chemical attack last week.

"Gavlak is a Middle Eastern journalist who filed the report about the rebels claiming responsibility on the Mint Press News website, which is affiliated with AP. In that report allegedly the rebels told him the chemical attack was a result of mishandling chemical weapons....

"Gavlak reports he was told by rebels that the gas "attack" was the result of rebels mishandling the chemical weapons they acquired from the Saudis. He says in the Mint Press report the following:

""They didn’t tell us what these arms were or how to use them,” complained a female fighter named ‘K.’ “We didn’t know they were chemical weapons. We never imagined they were chemical weapons.”"

This tends to raise an obvious question: from whom did the Saudis obtain the chemical weapons?

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Anonymous Idle Spectator August 31, 2013 3:06 PM  

I told you this was syrious.

I'm super syrial.

Blogger AMDG August 31, 2013 3:11 PM  

Exactly. If prevention of a repeat attack can wait, then why are we going in at all, by ourselves? He has profoundly fumbled the ball on this one and continues to do so. His ego can't let it go.

Anonymous Rex Little August 31, 2013 3:12 PM  

If Obama really wanted an out, he'd go to the UN instead of to Congress. Russia would veto, and (to the extent the rest of the world gives a crap about Assad's chemical weapons) they'd look like the bad guys.

Since Obama isn't doing this. . . I've been on record a number of times as saying that, bad as he is, he's not as bad as Dubya. I now take it all back.

Anonymous Salt August 31, 2013 3:13 PM  

... and Obama deflects to Congress, the ball hanging in the air, and hanging, and hanging ...

Anonymous Michael of Charlotte August 31, 2013 3:13 PM  

So if you're Iran, are you even remotely concerned with the US stopping your development of nuclear weapons?

Anonymous Red Comet August 31, 2013 3:19 PM  

Appealing to Congress is just his way of making a whipping boy and getting out of responsibility for it should the chemical attack be proved to be a false flag or if the public really, really hates it.

Dubya did much the same with Iraq, but the media put all the blame on him anyway. Unfortunately, Obama is still their cult leader so Congress will have the finger pointed at them when this inevitably goes bad.

Any attempts to point out to libs that they blamed Bush straight up last time will result in a nervous tick before they just yell, "NO IT'S CONGRESS!"

It'll be like the 7 minute abs guy from There's Something About Mary.

Anonymous Gen. Kong August 31, 2013 3:23 PM  

I'm sure the cancerous old raving war-monger Incitatus from AZ, the Pink Palmetto Princess along with Weepin' Johnny and his badass band of brokeback boyz will be only too happy to assume the position for the ultimate fulfillment of their own negro-rape fantasies. After all, hasn't the Ministry of Truth already informed us proles that Assad is the latest HITLER and he has tons of WMDS and even now rubs his eeeevvvil paws in glee waiting to KILL SIX MILLION JEWS? Syria today, Iran tomorrow! The great progressive empire keeps marching onward, the idiocracy keeps guzzling Rev. Jones' latest vintage of grape drank.

Anonymous The other skeptic August 31, 2013 3:26 PM  

Obama promises Syria strike will have no objective.

Blogger Conan the Cimmerian, King of Aquilonia August 31, 2013 3:28 PM  

Well, if nothing else, perhaps this will awaken the sheeple that this punk is an absolute moron.

Wait, scratch that, ain't goin' to happen.

Blogger JartStar August 31, 2013 3:37 PM  

He seems completely unenthusiastic about this so who's pressuring him to do this in the administration?

This may be the undeniable point in which his presidency goes completely off the rails and his political clout comes to an end.

Anonymous p-dawg August 31, 2013 3:37 PM  

I'm sure those civilians will be much happier to be killed by US bombs than by Syrian chemical weapons. Win/win.

Anonymous Difster August 31, 2013 3:41 PM  

After crowing about not needing Congressional approval, he most certainly is using this to backtrack knowing perfectly well that Congress will reject the war.

This is especially true since pictures and videos are coming out showing that the rebels are the ones with the chemical weapons. They admitted as much to an AP reporter.

Anonymous farmer Tom August 31, 2013 3:42 PM  

Maybe Obummer finally heard from his investigators and decided that having someone else to blame when the SHTF might be a good idea.


Rebels Caused Gas Attack

Anonymous farmer Tom August 31, 2013 3:43 PM  

Hey Difster, great minds think alike.

Anonymous MrGreenMan August 31, 2013 3:43 PM  

@JartStar
He seems completely unenthusiastic about this so who's pressuring him to do this in the administration?

Who stands to gain? It's always one of his corrupt female advisors who boss him around like the three witches from Macbeth.

Gas was coming down and shot up over 10% in a day this past week; perhaps Valerie Jarrett needed to make some more money. Maybe Susan Rice wishes she had gotten in on one of the previous deals? Or Samantha Power needs some new purse money from the old investment funds?

Blogger James Jones August 31, 2013 3:46 PM  

We need to attack Syria, because umm Syria is attacking itself.

Blogger Jordan179 August 31, 2013 3:48 PM  

Posted on this here: "The Syria War?"

http://jordan179.livejournal.com/279224.html

To put it briefly: I think that we do have just cause to attack Syria, but that the reasons Obama are giving are utter nonsense, and the way he's planning to attack are idiotic, so it can't end well.

Anonymous YIH August 31, 2013 3:53 PM  

To use another football metaphor, he's punting. It covers his ass either way yea or nay. Plus, he has the option to ignore congress if it suits him like say, if the Frogs push him to give them the cover to do what they do best, such as surrender.

Anonymous Noah B. August 31, 2013 3:57 PM  

Obama has painted himself into a corner. If he attacks, he'll be a hypocritical warmonger. If he doesn't, he will have been pwned by an 11 year old kid on facebook.

I suspect he will default to his usual position, which is to do nothing and blame Congress.

Anonymous nick digger August 31, 2013 4:20 PM  

"knowing perfectly well that Congress will reject the war"

I wouldn't count on that. Congress -- especially the Repubes -- support every proposed "war action", out of dreadfear that Our Troops(tm) would otherwise be dishonored.

Anonymous FP August 31, 2013 4:27 PM  

"Maybe Susan Rice wishes she had gotten in on one of the previous deals? Or Samantha Power needs some new purse money from the old investment funds?"

They're following Oprah's latest trend, they want a few $38k Swiss purses.

Anonymous Noah B. August 31, 2013 4:36 PM  

I wonder if the Saudis could have gotten them from Gadhafi's arsenal...

Anonymous YIH August 31, 2013 4:50 PM  

Noah B.
I wonder if the Saudis could have gotten them from Gadhafi's arsenal...
Quite possible, I don't see the Saudis having developed them themselves.
I see them working however, they had to know that whoever or however the chem weapons get put in play, Assad would get the blame. They must be more than a little ticked that someone would talk, especially to the 'western' press.

Anonymous Titus Didius Tacitus August 31, 2013 4:55 PM  

JartStar: "He seems completely unenthusiastic about this so who's pressuring him to do this in the administration?"

Who paid for him to be elected and re-elected, and who will pay for his post-White House life of wealth, luxury and adulation?

Anonymous New Jack August 31, 2013 4:56 PM  

http://youtu.be/PPZFOiJpr9A

Violent crowd vandalizes Coptic church in Egypt

Anonymous Mr. Pea August 31, 2013 5:02 PM  

Obviously, we can not allow an Islamic Gas Pipeline compete with the Arab Gas Pipeline.

Anyhow... Syria, like all the other countries we have been meddling in, has been on the globalist radar for years.

Anonymous Arachnothera August 31, 2013 5:02 PM  

That is the Copts' due. Don't side with military dictatorships.

Anonymous Mr. Pea August 31, 2013 5:05 PM  

I wonder if the Saudis could have gotten them from Gadhafi's arsenal...

We're still trying to selectively figure out if USGov gave Saddam chemical weapons to use on the Iranians.

Anonymous Leap of a Beta August 31, 2013 5:09 PM  

Anyone else think its hilarious that a woman is at once both claiming responsibility and deny her own fault in such actions?

Blogger L. Beau August 31, 2013 5:12 PM  

I told you this was syrious. I'm super syrial.

Okay, Idle Spectator, that was awesome. MANBEARPIG!

Blogger The Observer August 31, 2013 5:13 PM  

Obomba goes golfing with Biden while Syria in crisis.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-08-31/and-now-its-golfing-time-or-putin-1-obama-0

Anonymous Stg58/Animal Mother August 31, 2013 5:27 PM  

Who else are the Copts supposed to side with, Arachnothera? The muslims who have been killing them?

Anonymous MrGreenMan August 31, 2013 5:30 PM  

@ Arachnothera
That is the Copts' due. Don't side with military dictatorships.

Have the Copts actually sided with the military dictatorship? Did they similarly side with Nasser and Mubarak by wanting to live in their traditional communities and respecting whoever was the government at the time? "Sucks to be you, living in your communities, getting on with your life, respecting the government you had at the time; you should have been able to pick winners and losers and side with the right future dictator early!"

They attack the Copts because they think America is a Christian nation, so they strike at the weak, thinking they strike at the West, which is no longer Christian, and yet they assume Miley Cyrus is the face of "Christian" entertainment media as a further slander against Christianity.

Anonymous Stg58/Animal Mother August 31, 2013 5:33 PM  

Arachnothera gets the daily dumbass award.

Blogger Whiskey August 31, 2013 5:41 PM  

My guess is the "real President" Valerie Jarret finally put her foot down on this, after Obama's Sunni pals in Pakistan had gotten him hopped up. Either that or the polling is so terrible that the Clintons who now control the DNC let it be known that this had to stop or there would be serious moves towards impeachment.

The only thing keeping us from full Kim Jong Eun status is the infighting and stupidity of the Clintons, Obamas, Jarret, and Samantha Power and Susan Rice (Power seems to be the one big on "Responsibility to Protect.")

And what is really bad, is that the requirement to reach out and hit Iran, hard, to wreck (at least for a while) their nuke program is just gone. The public has been lied to for decades, by Presidents Carter, Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Bush, and now Obama even more, on the need for America to either insure it has unchallenged military dominance in the Persian Gulf and all that comes with it (protecting the loathsome House of Saud, compromises up the wazoo) or accept gas at $10, $20, or even $30 a gallon and the widespread social collapse and massive physical violence sure to follow Iranian/Russian domination of the Gulf and pressure if not overthrow on the House of Saud to drastically reduce oil and gas production. [Given that those two regimes can't survive without massive handouts to their thug army and hangers on, requiring massive increases in their oil and gas revenues.]

Syria is an irrelevant sideshow, at best a "nice to have" (to give Iran a black eye) but nothing important. Either Iran's guy Assad or AQ will run that country, better in the long run Iran's guy. Obama has been such a disaster that the awful House of Saud has basically dumped us as their protector, which we've been since FDR and 1944, in favor of the Russians who are seen as more reliable and stronger.

Obama is pretty bad, but he's the symptom not the cause of the weakness. He is the guy the American people wanted, because they wanted a fantasy of "being nice to Muslims" instead of periodic wars to keep gas and oil affordable, and thus the social peace inside America.

Anonymous VD August 31, 2013 5:42 PM  

That is the Copts' due. Don't side with military dictatorships.

My goodness, you're much more despicable than I had imagined. But you're also inspiring. Whenever I feel like coasting, I think about nasty little creatures like you, and how one more reader, or one more Twitter follower, or one more book sale, will be like another drop of Chinese water torture on your head. And that gives me the motivation to work harder.

Anonymous ENthePeasant August 31, 2013 6:01 PM  

Am I the only one who sees an ever diminishing white liberal who's sucked a dick of two and has been playing a black president for the last five years?

Anonymous Noah B. August 31, 2013 6:05 PM  

I'd say it's more like two at the same time. But yeah, pretty much.

Anonymous Arachnothera August 31, 2013 6:06 PM  

Work as hard as you want, Vox, you'll never be talented.

Anonymous buzzcut August 31, 2013 6:08 PM  

I sure do miss the war protesters. I wonder where they all went? Last time I can remember hearing anything from them was, I think, November 3rd, 2008.

Anonymous Stg58/Animal Mother August 31, 2013 6:11 PM  

Arachnothera,

Does your husband know you are on the internetz? You should probably go make him a sandwich.

Anonymous ENthePeasant August 31, 2013 6:16 PM  

"That is the Copts' due. Don't side with military dictatorships."

What amuses the most is that Jews won't bat an eye when the Muslim Brotherhood (Boy Sodomizing, Rapist and murdering, Brotherhood international)come for them.

Anonymous ENthePeasant August 31, 2013 6:18 PM  

"Work as hard as you want, Vox, you'll never be talented."

And you'll always be an idiot. The circle of life.

Anonymous YIH August 31, 2013 6:25 PM  

Arachnothera:
Look! Ta(r)d's back! Hi Tad! I thought you'd be busy getting your ass pounded.

Blogger James Dixon August 31, 2013 6:27 PM  

> Gas was coming down and shot up over 10% in a day this past week...

That's just the Labor Day weekend. The gas stations always raise their price for it.

Anonymous bob k. mando August 31, 2013 6:28 PM  

Arachnothera August 31, 2013 5:02 PM
That is the Copts' due. Don't side with military dictatorships.




Shah of Iran.

Mubarak of Egypt.

Hussein of Iraq.

Kai-Shek of China / Taiwan.

ibn Saud is technically regarded as monarchist ... but he took the throne through military force.

i'm sure there are many others.


Sept 11 was the United States' due. Don't side with military dictatorships ....

Anonymous Stg58/Animal Mother August 31, 2013 6:28 PM  

How do you know he isn't? Maybe he is getting his ass pounded while he types?

Blogger Markku August 31, 2013 6:29 PM  

That's not Tad, it's Dimwit Dan. Bird genus aliases are his new thing.

Anonymous YIH August 31, 2013 6:33 PM  

Tebow cut by Patriots, plans to keep playing. Hate to say it, but I was expecting that to happen.

Blogger Claudio August 31, 2013 6:48 PM  

it has recently occurred to me that this while war mongering on Obama's behalf may be part of his grand plan to damage America's credibility even more. By making the US, and its leaders, look weak and indecisive, future potential enemies will be emboldened by knowing that the US is all bark and no bite... especially considering the fact that we're going to have Democrats in the White House for at least a generation.

Anonymous VD August 31, 2013 7:03 PM  

Work as hard as you want, Vox, you'll never be talented.

Never claimed I was. Never particularly wanted to be. You don't seem to understand that talent has very little to do with success in literature and absolutely nothing to do with success in games.

Anonymous Harsh August 31, 2013 7:19 PM  

Work as hard as you want, Vox, you'll never be talented.

Hard work trumps talent each and every time. Anyone who's successful knows that.

Blogger LP 999/Eliza August 31, 2013 7:25 PM  

Endless attempts to ruin summer with talk of a rapture, debt theatre and now its endless wars. False Flag n' saber rattling in that region doesn't help.

Luckily, there's Nato, the UN and Putin! Let them handle it!

Anonymous Mr. Pea August 31, 2013 7:27 PM  

This is all a plan to build a Caliphate to take over America and to teach Americans to hate the clit and bugger little boys and girls, right?

Anonymous allyn71 August 31, 2013 8:12 PM  

I am curious to see how Congress responds to the prodding of their Saudi masters on this one. Should be pretty telling.

Assad has been kicking the rebels ass, we will either be going all in soon or we will cut the whole thing off and you won't here about Syria again. If there is another CW attack between now and when Congress reconvenes, the Saudi's aren't giving up.

Think the failure of the UK rubber stamp was a wake-up call for the globalists.

Anonymous Kaz August 31, 2013 8:25 PM  

And former Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton, is curiously quiet. Are the rats starting to sense the ship is sinking?

Anonymous Mr. Stubby August 31, 2013 8:32 PM  

sure do miss the war protesters. I wonder where they all went? Last time I can remember hearing anything from them was, I think, November 3rd, 2008.

They are out there. But you watch tv huh?

Anonymous Anonymous August 31, 2013 9:05 PM  

Harsh wrote: **Hard work trumps talent each and every time. Anyone who's successful knows that.**

I don't know what time machine you jumped out of, but your statement might have been true 100 years ago. Today, success is based on the 3 L's: Looks, Luck, and Lies. Not necessarily in any particular order.

Blogger stats August 31, 2013 9:20 PM  

Whiskey said:"Obama is pretty bad, but he's the symptom not the cause of the weakness. He is the guy the American people wanted, because they wanted a fantasy of "being nice to Muslims" instead of periodic wars to keep gas and oil affordable, and thus the social peace inside America."

Periodic wars to keep gas affordable? Really? Before we started these wars to keep gas affordable in 2003, a barrel of oil was going for $20. Now it is over a $100.

Are you stupid, insane or a shill for Israel? Where do you get these moronic talking points?

There maybe an economic calculus involved in our action in the Middle East, but the truth is that we are in thrall to Israel and what ever they want, they eventually get. And what they have told us for years is that they want to remake the entire Middle East. Balkanization of Syria has long been part of the plan.

Anonymous Idle Spectator August 31, 2013 9:25 PM  

Arachnothera just copt a feel. What is the big deal here?

Anonymous DonReynolds August 31, 2013 9:28 PM  

It gets weirder and weirder.
Mr. Obama has decided to let Congress debate the matter and vote on the authorization of military force against Syria...
but in the same breath, he says he does not have to do that, he has the authority to order the attack without it, and he will not be constrained by their vote in any event (anyway), so it does not matter.
And while he earlier said that no attack should take place until a United Nations resolution "authorizing" the use of military force had been approved, now he says it is no longer necessary (or desirable).
And while earlier, Mr. Obama demanded that United Nations inspectors be permitted into Syria to examine and take evidence regarding the use of chemical weapons, which the Syrians have agreed to, but now Mr. Obama says it is "too late" to do that.
The attack on Syria that was expected last Thursday has been postponed for at least a month, but HE WILL if he wants to, and he does not need any approval, and he has the authority, sorta....maybe....I think so....or he should....anyway.

Anonymous buzzcut August 31, 2013 9:36 PM  

Mr. Stubby August 31, 2013 8:32 PM

sure do miss the war protesters. I wonder where they all went? Last time I can remember hearing anything from them was, I think, November 3rd, 2008.

They are out there. But you watch tv huh?

I do not watch TV. Are there still anti-war protests going on? Organized groups, chanting, sign-waving, speeches, the whole gamut? Or did they all evaporate after November 2008? And if they are still going on, why isn't the MSM covering them like they were prior to the 2008 election? Is it because their guy occupies the chair now?
And that's why I don't watch TV. It's all a puppet show. You get to see what they want you to see, nothing more.

Anonymous MrGreenMan August 31, 2013 10:00 PM  

@DonReynolds
It gets weirder and weirder.
Mr. Obama has decided to let Congress debate the matter and vote on the authorization of military force against Syria...
but in the same breath, he says he does not have to do that, he has the authority to order the attack without it, and he will not be constrained by their vote in any event (anyway), so it does not matter.


He has long maintained this - he would prefer if the Congress acted, but he will act without them, since he knows his party will ensure he is not impeached and convicted. He shows a contempt for the Congress that Caligula would be proud of: Mr. Obama has repeatedly used the line, without any response from Congress, saying that, once something is debated in Congress, regardless of whether something has been passed or not, it has been debated, and he will operate as if his desires were passed. This is the exact same line he used with the Dream Act (which was not passed by the House, but his DHS operates as if it was), it is the same line he used with the green energy certification and home sale restrictions (which was not passed by the Senate, yet his "command and control" EPA operates as if it was), I'm sure there are many more, but this is the new form of American government: it may be debated, you can say what you want, and then the president makes his decision. It is how the "fourth branch" of government - executive branch agencies - have always operated: you can comment during the designated comment period, there is a pretense of representative government, but then, the people in charge make the decision they wanted to make in the first place after the show legislative action.

Anonymous civilServant August 31, 2013 10:01 PM  

"They didn’t tell us what these arms were or how to use them,” complained a female fighter named ‘K.’ “We didn’t know they were chemical weapons. We never imagined they were chemical weapons.”

This tends to raise an obvious question: from whom did the Saudis obtain the chemical weapons?


Nonsense. It is completely incredible that the Saudi's would hand out chemical weapons without carefully explaining that they were chemical weapons. The question that arises is who was it that handed over these weapons without explaining what they were? And why?

You get three guesses. But you will need only one.

Anonymous Mr. Stubby August 31, 2013 10:16 PM  

You get three guesses. But you will need only one.

Ambassador Stevens?

Anonymous TheExpat August 31, 2013 10:36 PM  

Nonsense. It is completely incredible that the Saudi's would hand out chemical weapons without carefully explaining that they were chemical weapons. The question that arises is who was it that handed over these weapons without explaining what they were? And why?

Heh, of course the Saudis carefully explained that they were chemical weapons to the people they handed them over to, but that doesn't mean that the explanation went all the way down the ranks to people like "female fighter named ‘K.’"

Anonymous Arachnothera August 31, 2013 10:53 PM  

How successful was The War In Heaven? I've read reviews of that and they are overwhelmingly negative.

Anonymous Anonymous August 31, 2013 11:25 PM  

REG

War in Heaven, Amazon reviews- 33 total, 19 Five star, 6 Four star, 3 Three star. And 3 One stars. So we have twenty-five in the top two reviews and a tie in the almost average rating. I don't know what the sales were like; but, if I wrote the book, I'd be happy with those numbers. I don't even like Fantasy, but, you're tempting me to buy it just to put another nail in your coffin.

Anonymous Arachnothera August 31, 2013 11:37 PM  

I meant the video game. Although if you want to ignore the fact that it was even made, I can understand.

Blogger JaimeInTexas August 31, 2013 11:57 PM  

bob k. mando: I recommend that you read Herbert Hoover's America Betrayed. It is a heck of a read. FDR, during WW2 supported Mao behind Kai-Shek's back.

Anonymous Stg58/Animal Mother September 01, 2013 12:02 AM  

Arachnothera,

I recommend Midsummer's Eve or Massengill for that not so fresh feeling. Hmmm...after closer examination, I think you might need some Midol too. For the cramping.

Run along now, little one.

Anonymous Gx1080 September 01, 2013 12:30 AM  

Tad, go bother someone else.

Obama got his war groove on! Nice way to start a second period. Heh. Also, a surface reading says that the drones and the airplanes are in, no matter what the Congress says.

Anonymous A Visitor September 01, 2013 12:42 AM  

from whom did the Saudis obtain the chemical weapons? The Iranian government might know. Per an Iranian friend, supposedly they reached out to us last December and said that they had evidence of chemical weapons being transferred to Syria.

My bet is the "rebels" overran one of Assad's chemical weapons storehouses or a dissident unit of the Syrian Army hooked them up. How great would that look for proof?!? Have a nominal Syrian Army unit use chemical weapons against the rebels as a false flag when in reality said unit was with the rebels all along and wanted to frame the government. As I've said before, I do not like Assad. He is preferable to Al Qaeda, though.

Anonymous liljoe September 01, 2013 12:45 AM  

come on guys, Syria is vital to U.S. interests. they need to be attacked, there's just no other option. How will all those defense contractors pay for their Cadillac Eskizzies? you go Obama

Anonymous Robert in Arabia September 01, 2013 12:51 AM  

Attention, Whiskey.
The members of the house of Saud whom I have met are not loathsome. When a waiter spilled coffee on the current king,his majesty put his arm around the waiter and said anybody can have an accident

Anonymous bob k. mando September 01, 2013 1:09 AM  

JaimeInTexas August 31, 2013 11:57 PM
bob k. mando: I recommend that you read Herbert Hoover's America Betrayed. It is a heck of a read. FDR, during WW2 supported Mao behind Kai-Shek's back.




be that as it may ( seriously, who wouldn't believe that FDR was helping the commies? his administration, just like Obama's, was full of them ), we certainly were aiding Kai-shek as well. that's what the Flying Tigers were.

thanks for reminding me that we were on the side of both Stalin and Mao to, though.

and that's good enough for Arachnothera's dictum.

thanks for the book rec, i'll have to look into that.

Anonymous zen0 Dangerfield September 01, 2013 7:02 AM  

This just proves that nobody listens to me. I mentioned this article 2 days ago.

I can't get no respect.

Anonymous Sigyn September 01, 2013 7:27 AM  

I see the Greatest Ego in Cantaloupia has taken a break from her next Great American Novel to grace us with a visit. How generous.

Anonymous boomer September 01, 2013 8:21 AM  

Is there any real reason for us to get involved? To me this event is being used by Obama administration like WAG THE DOG... Its to distract the press and the American people from the crimes the IRS and NAS are doing.

Anonymous boomer September 01, 2013 8:25 AM  

Wait, the IRS and NAS are phony stories.

Anonymous Heh September 01, 2013 8:31 AM  

The members of the house of Saud whom I have met are not loathsome. When a waiter spilled coffee on the current king,his majesty put his arm around the waiter and said anybody can have an accident

And furthermore, you will soon learn to wait tables one-handed...

Anonymous George of the Vibrant Jungle September 01, 2013 9:06 AM  

I wish I had said it first, but instead some anonymous commenter at Sultan Knish wrote:

"Thanks to the left we now have the worst of both worlds. Now terrorism is basically thought of as a response of oppressed peoples and we can't go to war against it. Now you are against us but we are with you. We just know we are on the side we need to be on to be properly progressive. The members of the side we fight on behalf of, doesn't have to be with us... in fact they are against us but they have their 'struggle' in which we are with them but that struggle is often against our civilians.

Maybe we can make this simple and just blow up our own people to teach Syria a lesson."

Obama Gets His War On

Anonymous boomer September 01, 2013 9:22 AM  

Never let a tragedy go to waste. It a bigger tragedy for this government to get involved.

Anonymous George of the Vibrant Jungle September 01, 2013 9:28 AM  

Like all blacks, Obama is full of aaa-teee-tood instead of accomplishment. Thanks to the mindless leftist propaganda spewed by our State-controlled educational establishment, such affirmative action poseurs truly believe that acting like an arrogant media star will successfully get them through any situation.

Anonymous Porky September 01, 2013 9:33 AM  

""They didn’t tell us what these arms were or how to use them,” complained a female fighter named ‘K.’ “We didn’t know they were chemical weapons. We never imagined they were chemical weapons.”"

Women ruin everything.

Anonymous boomer September 01, 2013 9:35 AM  

There so much BS coming out of the Obama administration you could paint the white the color of BS and still have plenty to cover the rest of Washington DC

Anonymous George of the Vibrant Jungle September 01, 2013 10:08 AM  

I've been watching Al Jazeera for their slant on Syria, Egypt, et al. It's biased in favor of the radicals, sometimes subtly, sometimes not. But what I really love are the women newscasters. They're mostly Moslem harridans, with a smattering of British twits thrown in. Some of the Moslems are actually reasonably good looking, but with the sour negative personas they throw up on screen I conclude they all have had clitoridectomys. Also, it's pure taqqiya that none of them wear burqas, as if they want us to believe that Moslem women are perfectly as free as their Western counterparts.

This whole situation between Moslems and Western globo-socialists is a laugh riot, enough to keep the rest of us untermensch entertained for the rest of our miserable lives.

Anonymous Anonymous September 01, 2013 10:27 AM  

REG:

"I meant the video game. Although if you want to ignore the fact that it was even made, I can understand."

I don't play video games. Didn't know a game by that name existed; therefore, I did not ignore anything. If you know that both book and game exist, it is your duty to specify which one you are speaking of. Otherwise, you are only moving goalposts. Oh I meant this; Oh I meant that; No I meant this again.

I think I'll buy the book now. Book or game, Vox still gets a royalty check, then after I've read it, I'll take it to Hastings for trade in, it'll go on the shelf and probably sell to another new reader, who will then be tempted to buy the game or Throne of Bones... I think Vox owes you a 'thanks' for helping build his business. He gets richer with your help.

Anonymous CLK September 01, 2013 10:46 AM  

Two wars already seemed like more than enough killing for me .. what did we get from those wars ... nothing but thousands of dead young Americans, a millions dead civilians, over $4 trillion in debt and $5/gallon gas .. and for what ?

To "win" in the middle east you would have to kill every man, woman and child for at least ten generations ... so unless you are willing to do that, don't go in. Build a big wall.. down the east coast, along the gulf, thru Texas (we can argue where in Texas) and up the west coast (and we can also argue where in California, Oregon and Wash the wall is) and stop trying to change the world.. it doesn't want to change and it doesn't deserve the sacrifice of our blood.



Anonymous E. PERLINE September 01, 2013 11:05 AM  

Obama always acts as if he's in complete control of a situation even when he's relinquishing control. Does the word "hootsbah" apply?

If one or two of those five US destroyers are hit by missles, it would be a big a big blow to his administration. Can't say I blame him for chickening out.

Anonymous Susan September 01, 2013 11:38 AM  

I saw that this morning Porky and found it most amusing. With Obama being the kiss of death to everything foreign policy, I am really surprised that the Syrian rebels would want him coming to their rescue.

Anonymous TJ September 01, 2013 12:47 PM  

How to false flag:
- Have saudis give chemical weapons to rebels to store
- remotely activate weapons while in rebel possession
- blame syria

Brilliant plan.

Anonymous Mr. Stubby September 01, 2013 2:39 PM  

Now terrorism is basically thought of as a response of oppressed peoples and we can't go to war against it.

BS. We did. It is called Afghanistan. We should have had a mass orgy of violence and left. But we didn't. We had to drip all over our selves in the name of vibrant venereal democracy and spread the love around.

And spread the love around we have.

Comes back to bite us in the ass, and then we act like the virtuous slut.

Who? Meee? (Bat's eye).

Benghazi... well, when you whore for the Mother of Harlots, why be surprised when the occupational hazard kills you. Benghazi WAS us.

WTF is exactly the War On Terror? What exactly has Bush and Obama accomplished besides setting the Middle East and Persia on fire and ramping up the totalitarian Police State here?

911 really did a mass mind puck on you people. And they have been running with it ever since.

Seriously. Now all of a sudden you people care about clitoridectomys, Burqas, child buggery... as if this is the total sum of 1 Billion Muslims.

And of course, we'll just gloss over the fact that Al Qaeda was a creation of US dot Gov.

And stop your bitching about the police/surveillance state. You are either with us, or you are against us... Crusader.

Anonymous The other skeptic September 01, 2013 3:27 PM  

If one or two of those five US destroyers are hit by missles, it would be a big a big blow to his administration. Can't say I blame him for chickening out.

Surely, that could never happen.

I mean, we spend billions equipping them with radar and the mother of all CIWS and peopling them with a vibrant staff.

They are invincible!

Anonymous The other skeptic September 01, 2013 3:35 PM  

I think this posting by Sultan Knish is more interesting than the one pointed to by George of the Vibrant Jungle:

George Zimmerman Cures Cancer

Anonymous Titus Didius Tacitus September 01, 2013 4:46 PM  

CLK: "Two wars already seemed like more than enough killing for me .. what did we get from those wars ... nothing but thousands of dead young Americans, a millions dead civilians, over $4 trillion in debt and $5/gallon gas .. and for what ?"
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The payoff is more "diversity", continuing Islamic mass immigration, mandatory "sensitivity" that means in the UK you can be rounded up by the police at 3am for having tweeted something critical of Islam, and continuous official praise and support for Islam ("Islam means peace") plus government subsidies (supposedly directed to "moderates").

Because of institutionalized antiwhitism, the war on terror has been integrated into the war on whites.

From the outset, George W. Bush had a negative attitude to the white masses, who he thought should stay home or "go shopping" while a newly empowered leviathan security state did everything. The government directed itself from the first against a feared white backlash against Muslims.

If Muslims are disposed to kill kuffers, we must remember that the killing of our soldiers is a tragedy, but if our diversity was to become a victim, that would be a greater tragedy. "Diversity" means more non-whites, especially in power, and less whites, and especially less power for non-elite gentile whites. So the priority is clear. Antiwhitism sets the over-riding agenda. The so-called "global war on terror" was only ever pursued to the extent that it could be integrated into the larger framework of institutionalized antiwhitism.

Continued non-white mass immigration into all white countries and only white countries plus forced integration is white genocide. That is what the anti-whites want.

In that context, anti-whites don't care about white war casualties doing whites no actual good, nor do they care about the economic cost to whites of endless wars to break up the governments of the Middle East.

Anonymous Sigyn September 01, 2013 6:33 PM  

Mr. Stubby, somewhere in that post of yours, I lost track of who is "you", "us", "we", and (my favorite) "you people". Consider revising and resubmit.

Blogger kurt9 September 01, 2013 6:42 PM  

This tends to raise an obvious question: from whom did the Saudis obtain the chemical weapons?

Remember that North Korean ship that was carrying SCUD's and other assorted goodies the U.S. Navy interdicted and then let go out on the Indian ocean in summer of '02? This ship, and others like it, was probably carrying chemical weapons in addition to the SCUD's on board. As I remember, that ship was bound for a Yemeni port, where all of its goodies, including the SCUD's, were off-loaded, never to be seen again.

Blogger Jamie-R September 01, 2013 9:02 PM  

Rand Paul was just on Meet The Press, he's right, it was a bad policy move drawing a red line on action on top of bad policy by starting this rebellion. The US were using Libya as the blueprint to get rid of Assad, and now Obama has dug himself a hole with strikes. He's a terrible foreign policy strategist, and Putin continues to capitalise on his weakness to take direct action. Obama has been doing things in the shadows through the CIA, and when he has to take real action in the open, he backs off, because he remembers why he got the Presidency by bashing Bush for it.

Not only has Assad got chemical weapons, he was building a nuclear plant too before the Israelis bombed it. It's bullshit blaming this on America, it's an underhanded shot that Putin would enjoy you doing for him. You don't give Al Qaeda rebels chemical weapons! And how the hell do they smuggle them into Assad's stronghold of Damascus? You can't argue they're getting their arse kicked, Vox, while simultaneously claiming they can get weapons like that into his areas to stage a false flag.

Anonymous The other skeptic September 01, 2013 9:28 PM  

Not only has Assad got chemical weapons, he was building a nuclear plant too before the Israelis bombed it.

Yes. In fact, he was very close to building high-yielding fusion boosted nuclear weapon. Those Syrians are pretty clever. In fact, I suspect that even now he is closer to building nuclear weapons than the Iranians are.

It's bullshit blaming this on America, it's an underhanded shot that Putin would enjoy you doing for him.

Indeed. No one in the government would be stupid enough to put chemical weapons in the hands of Muslims, would they?

Anonymous zen0 September 01, 2013 10:25 PM  

Jaime-R bafflegabs.

You can't argue they're getting their arse kicked, Vox, while simultaneously claiming they can get weapons like that into his areas to stage a false flag.

Get a grip, Round-Eye.

As Assad says in his recent interview, the army cannot be everywhere at once, and a terror war of a civil nature is a long and drawn out affair. Syria has at least four borders to defend. The US cannot even defend one.

This should actually give succor to secessionists in the states. Even the US army can't be everywhere at once, especially in the US. Most the assets are elsewhere.

Anonymous Mr. Digital Finger September 01, 2013 11:53 PM  

Sigyn... just pick which ever one applies to you and stick with it. If none of the above sticks to you... then stick with that.

Anyhow... for all the talk of false flags, they have been running with it since 2001and working up to the grand cataclysmic false flag final. Then the people will once again wave their flags, chant USA, become 100 times the little bitches they are today, and this time actually stand in line to give their saviors BJ's.

Anonymous Mr. Stubby September 02, 2013 12:09 AM  

The central banks and international financiers that created our ongoing and developing disaster are NOT going to allow the destruction of the American economy, the dollar, or global markets without a cover event designed to hide their culpability. They need something big.

911 was just the beginning. A cover that continues to this day that will lead up to a massive false flag that will cover their wealth distribution and reorganization of the economic world order.

http://battlefieldusa.wordpress.com/2013/09/01/if-you-support-the-war-on-terror/

When my finger gets better, I'll try to be more diligent on the links:

http://battlefieldusa.wordpress.com/2013/08/29/digital-digit/

Blogger Jamie-R September 02, 2013 2:20 AM  

The State has chemical weapons, Zeno, if Al Qaeda gets any sort of WMDs, they'll let them off in more places than Syria. I know I know, you don't trust your government, but they should reveal where they were launched, because they know where and what time, and where they landed. They were rockets, talking about them being some mishandling is bs.

Calling Obama some dirty mafia boss on this issue to get strikes, or saying the Saudis would be allowed to hand ANYONE chemical weapons, is the stretch. You guys can continue to believe Putin over Obama on this one. Just try to remember Putin was KGB.

Blogger Kristophr September 02, 2013 2:53 AM  

Jamie-R: " ... I know I know, you don't trust your government, but ..."

Wrong. We don't trust Obama and his henchmen.

Obama does not equal "the government". This is not the Kingdom of France, and Obama is not The State.

Bush got authorization from Congress for the war in Iraq and Afghanistan. Obama had better damned well do the same.

Blogger Jamie-R September 02, 2013 4:11 AM  

I don't think you should strike, but making up stories to discredit the Obama government is lower than Putin and Assad conspiring to win this dirty little war. Anarchic and disparate rebels do not have WMDs, if they did, they'd be the ones the special forces would have to hunt down during the conflict!

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