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Thursday, August 29, 2013

Societal evolution in action

Whatever the environment of America is naturally selecting for, it doesn't appear to be either civilization or intelligence:
A woman who said she was brutally attacked by a group of black teenagers in Pittsburgh’s North Side Sunday said the girls savagely beat her while calling her racial slurs. Ginger Slepski said she suffered multiple injuries, including torn shoulder ligaments. She said she thought the girls were going to kill her.

“I thought it was so animalistic. So violent. I’m so afraid for these girls to get out and walk the streets,” Slepski said.

Police said Slepski was savagely beaten after the girls threw a bottle at her car on Concord Street and she stopped to confront them.

“I was mad. I knew they were younger. I thought they were in their early 20s. I got out and said, ‘What is your problem?’” Slepski said.

All four African-American girls then called her names before getting physically violent.

“They yelled, ‘Shut up white [expletive].’ The other said, ‘Get that white [expletive],’” Slepski said.

Slepski said she tried to get back into her car but the girls grabbed her by the hair.

“The one punched me in the head and I was on a set of concrete steps and my head hit the concrete so hard,” said Slepski. “Then they all got on top of me and all their hands were in my hair. They kept telling each other to, ‘Kick her in the head. Kick her head in the concrete.’”

Slepski said several people witnessed the attack but were too afraid to intervene.
Demographics is destiny.  If you're going to permit large numbers of barbarians inside the gates, don't become surprised when your society becomes barbarous. This is the inevitable consequence of "civil rights" and forced desegregation. Don't try to kid yourself otherwise.  You know it's true. It's why you keep your mouth shut and turn a blind eye to misbehaving young men and women. Ms Slepski didn't believe it; now she knows better.

Do you think next time she'll attempt to confront young vibrants who are acting in a civilized manner?  Do you think she'll even dare to confront young whites who aren't? This is how civilizations die, one individual retreat at a time.

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Anonymous bob k. mando August 29, 2013 2:03 PM  

Do you think next time she'll attempt to confront young vibrants who are acting in a civilized manner?


"an uncivilized"

Blogger Conan the Cimmerian, King of Aquilonia August 29, 2013 2:08 PM  

white girl bleed a lot

Anonymous TK August 29, 2013 2:12 PM  

Anyone read Sowell's book "Black Rednecks"? If so, thoughts?

Anonymous civilServant August 29, 2013 2:13 PM  

This is how civilizations die, one individual retreat at a time.

Is moving to Italy included as an individual retreat? Or is it "Advancing in a different direction"?

Blogger Conan the Cimmerian, King of Aquilonia August 29, 2013 2:15 PM  

are you flogging the log as you type your comments civilSlave?

Anonymous Giraffe August 29, 2013 2:19 PM  

She should have went all George Zimmerman on them.

Anonymous Credo in Unum Deum August 29, 2013 2:19 PM  

This is how civilizations die, one individual retreat at a time.

One or two small raids or attacks by small groups of barbarians in the early 300s, if not swiftly and violently put down by well-organized civilized people secure and confident in themselves and the rightness of their cause, will eventually lead to the horde setting up tents and sharpening their swords outside the city gates in the mid 400s, and taking over that city by 475.

We aren't putting these barbarians down in large numbers today, and there are not plans to do so in the future, so I'm sorry to say that things are going to get a lot worse before they get any better.

He may be a sleazy, hell-bound, sinful bastard who desperately needs Jesus Christ in his heart, but one of Mr. Gaston Glock's excellent inventions is at my side.

Anonymous Credo in Unum Deum August 29, 2013 2:20 PM  

476*

Back in the good ol' days, I'd be smacked by my history teacher for making such an error.

Not any more...

Blogger JCclimber August 29, 2013 2:20 PM  

Another Democrat voter now decides to.....double down and continue voting for Democrats! To show everyone that her bad experience doesn't mean that now she thinks all Democrat voting blacks are uncivilized.

Because ensuring that she is not seen as a racist is more important than her physical health, and more important than her growing psychological issues as her mind rebels against her retreat from reality.

Blogger Conan the Cimmerian, King of Aquilonia August 29, 2013 2:22 PM  

But hey, we are going to lob some cruise missiles into Syria, so we got that going for us.

Blogger JohnG August 29, 2013 2:24 PM  

I wonder how much of this lately is just perceived licence due to Barry O in the White House and Holder not doing a damn thing if it pertains to blacks?

Anonymous Porky August 29, 2013 2:24 PM  

Thank you, Southrons.

Anonymous Musashi August 29, 2013 2:27 PM  

If whites don't want to live then this is what they deserve.

Anonymous DonReynolds August 29, 2013 2:29 PM  

Ginger Slepski. So many Pole in Pittsburg and the same deal in Chicago. It seems the savages know that Poles are easy picking. No one ever heard of Polish rage or Polish revenge. Lemmie guess....this Pole is a nice Liberal Roman Catholic, white lady who voted twice for Barack Obama?

But the savages are less interested in direct confrontation with Southern whites, particularly of the Scot-Irish redneck variety. I guess because there is no nonsense about their race relations or baloney about trust and the golden rule.


Anonymous DonReynolds August 29, 2013 2:35 PM  

Giraffe...."She should have went all George Zimmerman on them."

Should not throw (Negroes) away like that....someday, they may become scarce.

Anonymous Red August 29, 2013 2:35 PM  

"Anyone read Sowell's book "Black Rednecks"? If so, thoughts?"

Sowell's wrong. I read the book and thought it was the truth for a long time. I've since learned that blacks everywhere left to themselves become much more violent and criminal than any group of rednecks. There's places in the south where people can run an un-attended store where people drop money into a box and take anytime item they want without anything preventing someone from taking everything. You could never do that in any black area, anywhere.

Crime rates for blacks in Europe are actually worse than black crime in America. It's not culture. It's genetics. It's not even clear that culture exists independently of genetics.

Blogger Lawrence August 29, 2013 2:36 PM  

Is moving to Italy included as an individual retreat? Or is it "Advancing in a different direction"?

This person might be a troll, but there's a valid question for Vox buried in there. Which is going to go down in flames first? America, or Italy (and by extension, Europe)?

Anonymous Stg58/Animal Mother August 29, 2013 2:37 PM  

Thank you, Southrons.

Porky,

I think you must be referring to the Yankee Puritan shipping magnates who brought them here who also instigated the War of Northern Aggression at the thought of losing their cotton revenues...

Blogger JCclimber August 29, 2013 2:38 PM  

She's lived in that neighborhood of Pittsburgh all her life. I guess that public skooling in diversity really paid off for her!

Anonymous Stilicho August 29, 2013 2:44 PM  

Thank you, Southrons.

For importing this problem? Fair enough. Mainly for a few at the top, including their ship-owning yankee compatriots, Brits, Dutch, etc.

For making it far worse by enabling and encouraging this type of behavior as well as trying to prevent people from defending themselves from this vibrancy...look to your liberal yankee neighbors in blue states/regions.

Blogger RobertT August 29, 2013 2:49 PM  

Goodness. What do yo think happened to bring these monsters out of the shadows where they've obviously been lurking for years and years?

I have been paying more attention to the Mexicans at my gym and I've decided you're right. They are probably much more vicious than the blacks. There are a lot more wide faces and permanent scowls among the Mexicans than among the blacks.

Anonymous FP August 29, 2013 2:52 PM  

Clearly she was really trying to sell these fine young cannibals er ladies (damn that music thread) some crack and they weren't having none of it.

Blogger Cogitans Iuvenis August 29, 2013 2:54 PM  

I normally don't like getting involved in this blog when it gets involved with race, but I couldn't help but notice that the article notices that the girls are being charged with ethnic intimidation and not a hate crime. I expect thugs and low lifes to act the way they do but it is maddening to see the government not apply the law evenly to all parties.

If there is ever a real blow up between the races like some here predict, then it will be a direct consequence of this sort of bullshit. I don't apply any sort of secret agenda to those in charge of the government, but it floors me to think that our leaders do not see that this sort of thing only creates more racial animosity.

Anonymous Josh August 29, 2013 2:56 PM  

Thank you, Southrons.

Yes, Pittsburgh is part of the South.

Retard.

Also, see stg58 and Stilicho's comments.

I notice that much of this feral vibrant behavior occurs in Yankee urban hell holes.

Anonymous Mr. Nightstick August 29, 2013 2:59 PM  

Is moving to Italy included as an individual retreat? Or is it "Advancing in a different direction"?

Vox has always been someone with more brains than balls. Same problem that Roissy has. It's easier to complain about the system and adjust to it than actually fix it. Our generation is probably lost so hopefully among our children a George Washington, Thomas Jefferson or Charles Martel will be found.

Blogger Jehu August 29, 2013 3:00 PM  

I will not convict as a juror anyone defending themselves against vibrants, even if their self-defense is questionable.

Anonymous realmatt August 29, 2013 3:06 PM  

BB-b-b-b-bbt but but Scotland! But...poor white trash!

So that means there is no black problem.

/thread

Anonymous Stg58/Animal Mother August 29, 2013 3:09 PM  

It's Yankee hunting season here at VP.

Anonymous toothy August 29, 2013 3:10 PM  

"It's Yankee hunting season here at VP."

Just leave us copperheads out of it.

Anonymous vryedenker August 29, 2013 3:11 PM  

Do NOT get out of your car unless you are sure that you can come out on top in a physical confrontation. It is self-defense 101.

Anonymous GreyS August 29, 2013 3:13 PM  

"She should have went all George Zimmerman on them."

That's the thing... Zimmerman barely made it out of that without getting life in prison, and he still might be killed someday. The sensible thing would be to defend yourself to the utmost then run away and never talk about it to anyone ever, but then if you do run and eventually get caught it looks worse and they will put you in prison for defending yourself.

Anonymous Titus Didius Tacitus August 29, 2013 3:14 PM  

Mr. Nightstick: "Vox has always been someone with more brains than balls."

This is in response to a post where Vox Day showed a very rare amount of moral courage and truthfulness.

Anonymous HoosierHillbilly August 29, 2013 3:15 PM  

Thank you, Southrons.

Perhaps not a geographical or historical error, but a brilliantly subtle tip of the hat to the previous thread and Mr. Tolkien? Simultaneously drawing parallels to the appearance of the men of Far Harad - "black men like half-trolls with white eyes and red tongues" - as well as their aid in the war against the West?

Or maybe just missed the mark.

Anonymous Alexander August 29, 2013 3:15 PM  

Man, you just can't win with these people.

"If you don't like it, get out!"
"We'd be better off without *your* kind!"
"Away with you, one-percenter!"
"It's evil, rich, white people like you that our the cause of all our problems!"

Becomes

"Y U GO AWAI?! COWARD! COME BAK AND HELP!"

It's not a question of balls and brains. It's a matter that Vox has absolutely no obligation to put himself in harm's way for 300 million strangers, especially when a sizable and every-increasing percentage of that group is actively hostile to Vox's person, heritage, race, and culture.

You might as call everyone here a eunuch for being able to point out why Zimbabwe is a failed state but showing no motive to physically go their and "help fix it."

Anonymous Big 80s Flashback August 29, 2013 3:16 PM  

Bernhard Goetz had a lasting impact when he took a stand. Media tried him as guilty in the court of public opinion, but it didn't stick.

There are lessons to be learned

Blogger The Great and Powerful Oz August 29, 2013 3:17 PM  

One of these days some youfs are going to attack the wrong person and have vendetta declared against them and their kind. I expect the body count to run into the hundreds when that happens.

Anonymous bob k. mando August 29, 2013 3:20 PM  

vryedenker August 29, 2013 3:11 PM
Do NOT get out of your car unless you are sure that you can come out on top in a physical confrontation. It is self-defense 101.




i'm the most important snowflake, the rest of you just live in my world. what? how dare you lift a finger against me?

it is female imperative 101.

the fact that she didn't realize that she was facing four other female imperatives with the same mindset?

it is female solipsism 101.

Blogger Giraffe August 29, 2013 3:22 PM  

Zimmerman barely made it out of that without getting life in prison, and he still might be killed someday. The sensible thing would be to defend yourself to the utmost then run away and never talk about it to anyone ever, but then if you do run and eventually get caught it looks worse and they will put you in prison for defending yourself.

He had just about the worst possible jury. Only way it could have been worse is if they were all black women.

The sensible thing would have been to stay in the car if you are unarmed. And if you are armed, stay in the car because you might have to shoot someone.

Anonymous Just_Michael August 29, 2013 3:22 PM  

I recommend a Ruger LCP fitted with a Hogue grip adapter and loaded with 100 grain cast flat points over 5 grains of AA#5.

'bout the size of a wallet.

It's just a part of life in the new century for white folks.

Car keys,..wallet,..LCP,..

Anonymous Mr. Nightstick August 29, 2013 3:23 PM  

It's a matter that Vox has absolutely no obligation to put himself in harm's way for 300 million strangers, especially when a sizable and every-increasing percentage of that group is actively hostile to Vox's person, heritage, race, and culture.

True but no one is called heroic for merely meeting one's obligations. Vox is no hero nor has he ever claimed to be one, I just wish he would try since he was so smart.

Blogger James Dixon August 29, 2013 3:25 PM  

> It's easier to complain about the system and adjust to it than actually fix it.

There is no fixing it. The solutions are well known and have been pointed out hundreds of times. The system will make sure such solutions are not implemented.

Anonymous Will Best August 29, 2013 3:25 PM  

Black fertility rates in the US have actually fallen to I believe 1.9, which is of course alarming their leaders. Unfortunately, I suspect the breakdown is similar to whites in that that the biggest losses in fertility are among the most affluent and well educated.

Anonymous DT August 29, 2013 3:29 PM  

Sowell's wrong. I read the book and thought it was the truth for a long time. I've since learned that blacks everywhere left to themselves become much more violent and criminal than any group of rednecks.

Sowell's partially right in that culture can shape the behavior of blacks. Genetically it seems that they are more difficult to civilize, and more prone to violence and criminal behavior if they are not properly raised and civilized. A puritan and/or military style upbringing is critical in raising a civil young African, where you can be relatively lax with a young European, and even more lax with a young Asian. But they can be civilized with a firm, forceful hand.

Culture and upbringing is huge, and Sowell identifies that. Unfortunately he ignores the genetic component completely.

Blogger River Cocytus August 29, 2013 3:32 PM  

I'm surprised no one who plays minecraft has made the Enderman connection.

They are tall, completely black 'outsiders'. They mess with stuff, moving stuff around (but nothing really life threatening) and leave you alone unless you do one of two things. The first (which is obvious) - is to attack them. The second?

Look at them.

If someone told you there was a survival game with tall black outsiders that would attack you if you happened to look at them what would they say...

Anonymous Titus Didius Tacitus August 29, 2013 3:32 PM  

"Whatever the environment of America is naturally selecting for, it doesn't appear to be either civilization or intelligence..."

What's being selected for is not being white. Every year the population grows less white, as a result of continuing non-white mass immigration, non-white fertility, and intense pressure on the whites, primarily through forced integration. In evolutionary terms, the ultimate cost of this system for whites is everything: extinction. This is genocide.

Blogger River Cocytus August 29, 2013 3:34 PM  

@Titus

For the moderni, it has always been about the glory of genocide. It just gets harder to get away with in each passing generation...

Blogger Nate August 29, 2013 3:37 PM  

"Thank you, Southrons. "

Obvious Troll is Obvious.

Blogger Nate August 29, 2013 3:38 PM  

"Thank you, Southrons. "

Obvious Troll is Obvious.

Anonymous Porky August 29, 2013 3:38 PM  

I think you must be referring to the Yankee Puritan shipping magnates...

No, lazy southrons.

Shoulda picked yer own damn cotton.

Anonymous Porky August 29, 2013 3:39 PM  

Obvious Troll is Obvious.

History is hard.

Anonymous Michael Maier August 29, 2013 3:40 PM  

Giraffe August 29, 2013 2:19 PM She should have went all George Zimmerman on them.

Yeah, I am starting to re-think my thoughts on non-violence vis-a-vis my Christianity.

If I am going to openly applaud Zimmerman and others that kill these viscious curs, I suppose I should have the means and balls to cleanse the pool myself.

I live in a "vibrant" neighborhood myself. I've been lucky thus far, but I think it's past time to take positive action towards protecting myself and others.

If they really don't want to die of lead poisoning, they should't put others in fear for their lives. It's really not that hard to figure out.

Hell, at this point I'm for passing laws that permit the intentional running-over of simian idiots walking in the middle of the street.

Anonymous GreyS August 29, 2013 3:40 PM  

"The sensible thing would have been to stay in the car if you are unarmed. And if you are armed, stay in the car because you might have to shoot someone."

I was getting two-- actually three-- scenarios mixed up in my head. This girl's situation, Zimmerman, and also thinking of, say, walking home and being accosted.

The girl in this instance should have never gotten out of the vehicle.

With the feral black youth preying on unsuspecting non-blacks, an intended victim would have a very difficult time after the fact. It would be best to literally run away if possible, but if you have to defend yourself do it very well-- and then decide whether or not to run so you won't get further involved. DA's, juries and the media are not non-black's friends in many of these situations.

There might come a day when most non-blacks where video cameras wherever they go in cities.

Anonymous Stilicho August 29, 2013 3:44 PM  

History is hard.

Exhibit A

Anonymous Alexander August 29, 2013 3:44 PM  

No one is really arguing that. And Vox made that specific point a few threads back - every indigenous group is better off long-term doing undesirable tasks for themselves, especially if that task requires bringing massive numbers of foreigners in through the city walls.

Anonymous Stilicho August 29, 2013 3:46 PM  

True but no one is called heroic for merely meeting one's obligations. Vox is no hero nor has he ever claimed to be one, I just wish he would try since he was so smart.

Would you criticize him for moving his family from Detroit to the suburbs? He just took that a step further (or to its logical conclusion, depending on how you look at it).

Blogger River Cocytus August 29, 2013 3:46 PM  

Yep. We had big problems when we had such a mass of sequestered foreigners that we felt the need to count them as only 4/5 of a person. It was at that point inevitable that we would have at least a biracial society; but no one from that point on, and even now, I think really appreciates that existential fact and its ramifications.

Anonymous DT August 29, 2013 3:48 PM  

If someone told you there was a survival game with tall black outsiders that would attack you if you happened to look at them what would they say...

OH! Oh...I know...I know...pick me...pick me please!!!

Yes DT, what would they say about such a game?

IT BE RACISS!!!

Blogger JartStar August 29, 2013 3:49 PM  

God bless Texas.

Texas Dad beats his daughter’s child molester to death… He won’t be charged!

Anonymous Phoenician August 29, 2013 3:49 PM  

Funny how dipshits posts these, violence goes up, yet dipshits takes no responsibility for perpetuating the cycle of violence...

Anonymous Porky August 29, 2013 3:49 PM  

Stilicho: "For importing this problem? Fair enough. Mainly for a few at the top, including their ship-owning yankee compatriots, Brits, Dutch, etc."

So the south HAD to use slave labor because, ... well... people kept shipping them over here.

Great argument.

Blogger River Cocytus August 29, 2013 3:50 PM  

@DT

I'm sorry, but you spelled "Raciss'" wrong. I can't accept the answer.

Everyone knows that any real speaker of Ebonics would put an apostrophe after the second 's'.

Anonymous Ten41 August 29, 2013 3:53 PM  

I can't comment on all places, but I live in a rural area were black rednecks exist for sure.

Confederate flag license plates, vehicle stickers, horse saddle pad.. These I have all seen myself.

At the local Civil War re-enactment there has been in the past a neat black gentleman who built a half scale Hunley. Last year he gave that to the Sons of Confederate Veterans in Jacksonville.

Also, the "leave money on the table nobody's watching" thing goes on here all the time - for rural goods such as honey, melons, etc.. So far has worked.

Now, as a caveat, the number of black rednecks is small. Also, being a rural area, with lots of well armed white rednecks, things are probably much tamer and honest due to the known consequences.

Anonymous Alexander August 29, 2013 3:54 PM  

Yeah, cause Detroit, Chicago, and Mogadishu are just brimming with people with hurt feelings after reading Vox Day.

Anonymous Mr. Nightstick August 29, 2013 3:55 PM  

Would you criticize him for moving his family from Detroit to the suburbs? He just took that a step further (or to its logical conclusion, depending on how you look at it).

It really depends on the individual. If it was someone whose hero was Fred Rogers probably not but if was someone whose hero was Charles Martel, maybe. My specific criticism of "more brains than balls" is one I think Vox would agree with. I could be wrong but he doesn't seem like one who has more balls than brains or that rare snowflake with an equal measure of brains and balls.

Anonymous DonReynolds August 29, 2013 3:56 PM  

vryedenker...."Do NOT get out of your car unless you are sure that you can come out on top in a physical confrontation. It is self-defense 101."

You Boers need to learn that a car is a better weapon than a revolver, especially when dealing with black mobs. Then back up slowly.

In this country, carjackings usually occur because the driver uses the brake instead of the accelerator. Carjackers depend on this tendency to "yeild to the pedestrian" to stop a car. (He He. Sometimes it works and sometimes it does not.)

Blogger River Cocytus August 29, 2013 3:56 PM  

Obviously Vox's posts are fueling da violence man. Just... fueling it like gasoline on top of a tar baby.

Blogger JDC August 29, 2013 3:56 PM  

dipshits posts these

Say this three times, rub your non-specific genitalia, click together your ruby slippers and repeat, there's no place like home.

Funny, how does a dipshit whom nobody pays attention to, who writes terrible fiction, who is a RSHD, who doesn't understand science, and who doesn't understand the Dewey decimal system supposed to perpetuate anything?

Blogger River Cocytus August 29, 2013 3:58 PM  

@JDC

Shh, don't apply his own positions to his own arguments! Words are hard man, who's the killjoy that's gotta give them fixed meanings and stuff, dudebro.

Anonymous Harsh August 29, 2013 4:00 PM  

Funny how dipshits posts these, violence goes up, yet dipshits takes no responsibility for perpetuating the cycle of violence...

You're making less and less sense as you go. The book fumes must be going to your head.

Anonymous bob k. mando August 29, 2013 4:05 PM  

Phoenician August 29, 2013 3:49 PM
Funny how dipshits posts these, violence goes up, yet dipshits takes no responsibility for perpetuating the cycle of violence...




because POSTING about the acts of violent acts by vibrants ... increases the rate of violent vibrancy?

sorry, gonna have to require verification on that assertion PER THE RULES OF THE BLOG.

i especially like how your assertion implicitly absolves the progs and their anti-white propaganda from any guilt due to their encouraging of black on white violence.


source, retract or ban, dipshit.

those are your options.

Blogger JDC August 29, 2013 4:07 PM  

What a barbarous society indeed. Just read a Yahoo sports piece, written by an African American woman, who has just predicted...

Stanford over Alabama in the 2014 National Championship game.

Looks like the Cardinal will roll over the tide.

Anonymous Stilicho August 29, 2013 4:09 PM  

So the south HAD to use slave labor because, ... well... people kept shipping them over here.

Great argument.


Good Lord you're slow today. No one made that argument. In fact, you're too bloody dense to even understand that that particular statement expressed agreement with your assignment of blame. It must be the fact that there was also blame closer to your home that chapped your cracklins so much.

Blogger Nate August 29, 2013 4:13 PM  

"History is hard."

Obviously not if you only bother to learn one side of it. Then even a mouthbreathing retard can pretend to have a grasp on it.

Anonymous DonReynolds August 29, 2013 4:14 PM  

The Great and Powerful Oz...."One of these days some youfs are going to attack the wrong person and have vendetta declared against them and their kind. I expect the body count to run into the hundreds when that happens."

Blood is thicker than mud, you are correct. I have been saying exactly the same thing here for several years. Vox, calls it the wrong person because the intended victim is armed. Down South, the "wrong one" would be someone with very close friends and relatives, who are themselves combat veterans, and they will make it their hobby to harvest as many as they can. It won't be continuously, they do have jobs and work to do and families. But maybe just one night a week (or every few weeks)....for years and years. Perhaps on the victim's birthday, or their wedding anniversary, or the anniversary of the day they were attacked. The victim does not need to be killed in the attack....assault or rape will have the same effect. And yes, the body count will run into the hundreds before it ends. That is when you know you hit the "wrong one".

Anonymous buzzcut August 29, 2013 4:17 PM  

Not sure if I'm correct or not, but it's possible we're dealing with a different definition of "retreat" here.

A safe, quiet, or secluded place.

"This is how civilizations die, one individual retreat at a time."

Anonymous Huckleberry - est. 1977 August 29, 2013 4:17 PM  

Stanford over Alabama in the 2014 National Championship game

That's adorable.
I like Stanford, they're the closest thing to an SEC-caliber team the West Coast has seen in decades.
But they ain't there yet.
Beside, BCS is thankfully a lame duck with a fatty liver, soon to be put out of its misery.
The real question: Georgia get another shot at the Tide for the SEC title?
And if so, do they win?
I'm going to say no to both.

As for vibrancy, Hell, don't get out of the damn car, especially when it's your only weapon.
It's only a game because they get away with it.
And yes, going to prison can still be considered "getting away with it" for most of these criminals. To most, its boarding school; just another type of welfare that helps teach better criminal skills.

Blogger Nate August 29, 2013 4:18 PM  

"Stanford over Alabama in the 2014 National Championship game. "

This is why women shouldn't write about sports.

I mean honestly you wonder why no one pays attention to yahoo.

Blogger Nate August 29, 2013 4:19 PM  

"The real question: Georgia get another shot at the Tide for the SEC title?
And if so, do they win?
I'm going to say no to both."

South Carolina wins the East I think. not that it matters. The Tide are more suited to be playing in the NFC South than the SEC.

Blogger Nate August 29, 2013 4:19 PM  

"The real question: Georgia get another shot at the Tide for the SEC title?
And if so, do they win?
I'm going to say no to both."

South Carolina wins the East I think. not that it matters. The Tide are more suited to be playing in the NFC South than the SEC.

Anonymous WaterBoy August 29, 2013 4:22 PM  

Interesting program on the Discovery channel the other day...shark tour operators chum the waters to bring the sharks around. They get their kicks watching the resulting feeding frenzy.

Anonymous Josh August 29, 2013 4:24 PM  

The real question: Georgia get another shot at the Tide for the SEC title?And if so, do they win?I'm going to say no to both.

Yes and no

Anonymous DonReynolds August 29, 2013 4:28 PM  

Alabama is a consistently great ball club. Their nearest natural enemy is LSU, not Georgia.

Blogger rcocean August 29, 2013 4:29 PM  

Not only did Northern traders import slaves - THEY FORCED southerners to buy them. Again, again and again for 30 years.

Poor Southerners, what were they going to do with all those slaves, except pick cotton?

Blogger JDC August 29, 2013 4:33 PM  

Alabama is a consistently great ball club. Their nearest natural enemy is LSU, not Georgia.

I don't disagree, however, I would add that their next nearest enemy is an as of yet unnamed NFL team who will offer Sabin a blank check and ownership should he three-peat.

Anonymous Stg58/Animal Mother August 29, 2013 4:35 PM  

Not only did Northern traders import slaves - THEY FORCED southerners to buy them. Again, again and again for 30 years.

After the Yankees made their money, they then began condemning the southerners for using the slaves that the Yankees had sold them. Shades of modern mass psychology.

Anonymous Stilicho August 29, 2013 4:36 PM  

I don't think Sabin wants to go back to the NFL, but Jax isn't that far...and if anyone is desperate enough to make that offer...

Anonymous VD August 29, 2013 4:40 PM  

Vox has always been someone with more brains than balls. Same problem that Roissy has. It's easier to complain about the system and adjust to it than actually fix it.

Why would I try to fix it when merely making factual observations that the problem exists has many, if not most, WHITE Americans attacking me? Let them be devoured. They deserve it.

America is MUCH more likely to collapse into racial strife. Europe will not. Americans don't recognize that Europeans are already taking action when the TOTAL minority population is only between 6-7 percent, while America is actually putting minorities that now amount to around 30-35 percent of the population in power.

There are no black-run or Muslim-run European cities, and many of Europe's Muslims are Eastern Europeans, not Arabs or Turks.

Anonymous Stg58/Animal Mother August 29, 2013 4:46 PM  

America is MUCH more likely to collapse into racial strife. Europe will not. Americans don't recognize that Europeans are already taking action when the TOTAL minority population is only between 6-7 percent, while America is actually putting minorities that now amount to around 30-35 percent of the population in power.

This is why the legacy of slavery is continually beaten into our heads to prevent this kind of society wide epiphany. My father was once asked on a radio show if he had any white guilt over slavery. He responded that he did not, and that it was a ludicrous question, since his grandparents (my great grandparents) emigrated from Austria in the 1870's and Poland around the turn of the 20th century. My family has had nothing to do with slavery. The interviewer was astounded and couldn't process this answer.

Anonymous DonReynolds August 29, 2013 4:49 PM  

rcocean...."Not only did Northern traders import slaves - THEY FORCED southerners to buy them. Again, again and again for 30 years.
Poor Southerners, what were they going to do with all those slaves, except pick cotton?"

What is your problem, sonny? The South did not invent slavery, they did not enslave anyone (they were already slaves when they got here), and very few came directly from Afrika. EVERY state of the Union at the time of the Civil War had lawful slavery in their history. In fact, of the last EIGHT states to end slavery, after the Civil War (Kentucky, Tennessee, Kansas, New Jersey, Delaware, West Virginia, Maryland, Missouri, the Distric of Columbia, and twelve parishes in Lousiana), only one of these was a Confederate state. Can you guess which one?

Blogger Conan the Cimmerian, King of Aquilonia August 29, 2013 4:50 PM  

Only got about a month left with this, and I can't let it go to waste.

The Tide are more suited to be playing in the NFC South than the SEC.

And the scoreboard read TAMU 29 Bama 24.

Now go sign some more autographs Johnny Football.

Hopefully the kid comes out p*ssed at the world and takes it out on the SEC this year.

Anonymous Molon Rouge August 29, 2013 4:50 PM  

"Sowell's partially right in that culture can shape the behavior of blacks. Genetically it seems that they are more difficult to civilize, and more prone to violence and criminal behavior if they are not properly raised and civilized. A puritan and/or military style upbringing is critical in raising a civil young African, where you can be relatively lax with a young European, and even more lax with a young Asian. But they can be civilized with a firm, forceful hand."

Sounds to me like you are training pups for the dog show! Now if we could only spay the bitches.


And a big thanks to Michael. Love that Ruger LCP. I going to buy one for my other pocket!

Anonymous Porky August 29, 2013 4:53 PM  

No one made that argument.

Assigning blame to shipping companies is like blaming drug cartels for the war on drugs.


It must be the fact that there was also blame closer to your home that chapped your cracklins so much.

Not chapped, and don't even know what a cracklin is. Is that another name for crack-baby? Just wanted to thank all the Southrons who were too lazy to pick those fuzzy little balls of cotton.

if you only bother to learn one side of it.

I'm neither from the North or the South and I identify with neither. You, on the other hand are such a proud, adamant Southron that it's likely not a question of whether you have cognitive bias regarding history, but to what degree.


Blogger Conan the Cimmerian, King of Aquilonia August 29, 2013 4:57 PM  

And 90% of the South owned no slaves.

And yes Southern culture is the true "american" culture. Stop joining with the Marxists and the other useful idiots in trying to destroy and denigrate the good vestiges of the ruined republic.

Anonymous Stg58/Animal Mother August 29, 2013 4:57 PM  


I'm neither from the North or the South and I identify with neither. You, on the other hand are such a proud, adamant Southron that it's likely not a question of whether you have cognitive bias regarding history, but to what degree.

Bias has been part and parcel of this debate for years, usually on the side of the Yankees. Everyone operates with a bias.

Assigning blame to shipping companies is like blaming drug cartels for the war on drugs.

The vital difference between Yankee shipping magnates and drug kingpins is the drug lords don't jump on moral soapboxes, scream about how evil we are then declare war on us fifty years after their business dried up.

Anonymous Porky August 29, 2013 4:57 PM  

After the Yankees made their money, they then began condemning the southerners for using the slaves that the Yankees had sold them. Shades of modern mass psychology.

Dang Nuthenahs. Alays usin' they Psycologee awn us.

Blogger stareatgoatsies August 29, 2013 4:58 PM  

Demographics is destiny. If you're going to permit large numbers of barbarians inside the gates, don't become surprised when your society becomes barbarous.

Given Vox's harping on about "vibrants" and how their savage nature contributes to the inevitable collapse of civilization, a sensible observer might assume that "things are getting worse". But it's not. Violent crime among juveniles, especially black juveniles, has been on downward trend for the better part of two decades now. So his calls for racial solidarity in the face of the coming racial bloodbath (and the will to violence it would necessarily entail) are not based in fact. It's like proclaiming an inevitable debt-based collapse if overall debt had been decreasing for 20 years.

Anonymous YIH August 29, 2013 4:59 PM  

CINCINNATI - After completing its autopsy, the Hamilton County Coroner's Office determined Patrick Mahaney, the "boredom beating," victim died of natural causes.
Beat to a pulp by 'teens' - then naturally died.
/facepalm
Wonder if Scalzi knows where Hamilton County Ohio is ;)

Anonymous Stg58/Animal Mother August 29, 2013 5:06 PM  


Dang Nuthenahs. Alays usin' they Psycologee awn us.

...And Yankees can't spell.

OpenID matamoros August 29, 2013 5:15 PM  

"Not only did Northern traders import slaves - THEY FORCED southerners to buy them."

Actually, if you bother to do the research, many if not the majority of the Southern plantations, and hence slaves, were owned by Yankees.

Anonymous DonReynolds August 29, 2013 5:16 PM  

Porky....."I'm neither from the North or the South and I identify with neither."

Come on, Porky. You can be a little more honest than that, with all that blubbering about cotton pickin slaves. (Thank goodness, you did not talk about tobacco.) Tell us, Porky, do all the Southrons have hook worm?

No one wanted to tell Porky about cracklings, but I will. Brace yourself, Porky...they are pork rinds (or gribenes, if you are Jewish). The rind is the tough skin of the porker. We Irish low-life call it "fatback". It is the ordinary by-product of rendering lard from hogs and pigs. This should not be confused with chitterlings (chit'lins, if you bees black), which is the pork intestines, used often for making soups and stews. Chitterlings can actually be the beef or sheep intestines too, but that would be more a European tradition.

Anonymous realmatt August 29, 2013 5:35 PM  

And those same Damn yankees wrote the Confederate States Constitution which abolished slavery! i mean...wait...I mean uhhh...the Southerners wrote it to abolish slavery because really the yankees owned the slaves...something like that...right?

yeah thats it. It was about states rights and ONLY ABOUT STATES RIGHTS.

Look, if you want to own some slaves, just say it. yes, it's a given that no one wants to be told what to do. But there's more to it than just that.

Anonymous Huckleberry - est. 1977 August 29, 2013 5:37 PM  

Is Porky the same dude as Porcus who used to comment here, he of the Pigs in the Azaleas fame?
If so, damn you've become quite the obstreperous bastard.

Anonymous Porky August 29, 2013 5:37 PM  

Come on, Porky. You can be a little more honest than that, with all that blubbering about cotton pickin slaves.

Machete don't "blubber".

Anonymous Stg58/Animal Mother August 29, 2013 5:39 PM  

Machete don't "blubber".

So now you're Machete the movie star?

Blogger Whiskey August 29, 2013 5:44 PM  

I love Vox, but he's in the fire instead of the frying pan. Italy is about to be over-run with vibrant diversity of the Egyptian kind, about 5,000 a week for now and it will only get bigger. Libyans are already over-running Sicily and will soon hit the mainland. It would take a considerable navy and force of will to keep out the mass of North Africans and Africans from over-running Italy. Which they already have in many northern Italian cities that are defacto Muslim run with cathedrals taken over, and a Congolese born Immigration minister openly pushing for mass African immigration and immediate citizenship rights.

As far as Europe goes, France has only 10% Muslims, but they are nearly ALL of the young people. Marseille, Lyons, Paris, and many other French cities are majority Muslim and run by Muslims. Most of Paris and ALL of Marseille are no-go for Europeans/Whites. Britain is majority non-White in LONDON, and has submitted totally to Pakistani rule, with northern towns majority Muslim and "grooming" or taking young White girls and turning them into prostitutes by Muslim men who act with impunity ... because they are non-White and Muslim. Lest we forget, the late Lee Rigby found Black men behead Whites with impunity. The British reacted to this by ... jailing Whites who expressed anger on Twitter and Facebook. Sweden and Denmark and Norway and Finland are even worse, they can't wait to submit and its a race to submit to Africans or Pakistani and Moroccan Muslims. Both of whom rage out of control in periodic riots which have the police running away.

Arguable, Vox is on the front line. He and his family are far more likely to suffer ethnic cleansing including massive violence because European nations outlaw White self-defense explicitly, and cannot surrender to the African/Muslim immigrants fast enough. Simply put, all nations of Whites hate themselves, mostly because their men are too intelligent and thus unsexy, and want to exterminate themselves as quickly as possible. Europe has this far worse than America and Italy is among the worst.

Gates of Vienna, Irish Savant, No Pasaran, and other euro blogs will give you a more accurate picture. Or you can read the Pravda media and read between the lines. The Swedish riots of vibrant diversity were because ... Swedes are weak and want to surrender. Same with the fashion of White British and Swedish women dying their hair black and wearing veils or full burquas to avoid rape.

Its not that bad here and we unlike Europeans can own guns (for now). America is also physically bigger, offering space and time for retreat. Which can be deadly as Napoleon and Hitler found out.

Vibrancy is almost entirely a phenomena found in cities and inner suburbs where welfare exists and lots of social services and other vibrants, this is true in Europe and America. Unlike Europe, however, the US has a substantial White population in exurbs and it is armed and has a lot more room to retreat. Meanwhile a place like Detroit or Marseilles can only exist by support from the White hinterland. The Visigoths were as least (if not more, the Romans depended on the slave Villa system) as self-sustaining as the Roman population they conquered. While White Americans still live on or near the land and can farm and such while vibrant diverse youths cannot even read, for the most part.

The thing is that most Whites see the dominance displays of Blacks, and their well known athletic superiority, and want to surrender. Only when the costs of surrender to vibrant diversity are too costly to bear, and enough arms are retained, will things change. Europe being already disarmed, having NO youth to speak of, and farther along the idea that Whiteness is icky and must be exterminated in favor of Male Black/Muslim-Pakistani dominance, there is no chance for them.

Pray for Vox and his family. They will need it. Italy is likely to be the first European nation to fall completely to Islam. They can't even keep out the Egyptian masses.

Anonymous Hyperphrenius August 29, 2013 5:49 PM  

stareatgoatsies August 29, 2013 4:58 PM

Given Vox's harping on about "vibrants" and how their savage nature contributes to the inevitable collapse of civilization, a sensible observer might assume that "things are getting worse". But it's not. Violent crime among juveniles, especially black juveniles, has been on downward trend for the better part of two decades now.


http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/28/nyregion/28crime.html

Assault Statistics of Hospitals and City Police Seem to Differ

Some excerpts:

Felony assaults, along with all other major crimes in the city, have sharply decreased over the last decade, according to the New York Police Department.

But during much of that period, the number of assault victims taken to emergency rooms nearly doubled, according to the city’s Department of Health and Mental Hygiene.

[...]

But two criminologists say the difference provides more evidence of a Police Department culture that puts so much emphasis on annual crime reductions that some police supervisors and precinct commanders may be manipulating crime statistics.

[...]

Much of the presentation focused on a survey of retired captains and higher-ranking officers that The New York Times reported on in February. In the survey, many retired officers said pressure to reduce crime led some managers to alter crime data to show annual decreases in the seven major felony categories measured in the department’s CompStat program.

[...]

Hospitals reported 47,779 assault victims in 2006, the latest figures available, a 90 percent increase from 1999. By comparison, the Police Department reported 19,173 felony assaults in 2006, a 33 percent decrease from 1998. (Numbers from 1999 were not immediately available.) The hospital numbers also show that assaults in which a firearm or cutting instrument was used, almost always constituting a felony offense, also grew, to 5,502 from 3,468, Mr. Eterno said.


Of course the police say this is all wrong. I know how far I can trust the police.

Anonymous patrick kelly August 29, 2013 5:50 PM  

@TiresomeTroll: "Funny how dipshits posts these, violence goes up, yet dipshits takes no responsibility for perpetuating the cycle of violence..."

Yeah, I'm sure hoards of vibrant yutes are reading this blog and getting all worked up over it even now.......

The cycle of violence goes on forever, the best you can hope for is a seat when the music occasionally stops.

I'm sure a cow farts every time someone posts AGW skepticism perpetuating the cycle of S&!% happens........

Anonymous civilServant August 29, 2013 5:53 PM  

Our generation is probably lost so hopefully among our children a George Washington, Thomas Jefferson or Charles Martel will be found.

Not anyone born in Idaho or Italy.

Vox has absolutely no obligation to put himself in harm's way for 300 million strangers

The system will make sure such solutions are not implemented.


Libertarianism at its core. They will not indeed cannot fight for anything they say they want or believe. Better to leave that to someone else ...

Let them be devoured. They deserve it.

... to prove what they deserve. But walking away proves something too. Which reminds me. I miss that little Molon Labe graphic. To see it posted by an ex-pat was just ... well ... whatever.

Anonymous Jake August 29, 2013 5:57 PM  

The "Southerner's fault" argument doesn't make much sense. Slavery ended nearly 150 years ago, this kind of savagery is a relatively new development, and note it ain't happening in the south.

Genetics is a necessary but not sufficient component in the creation of a barbarian class. If you see it as a race problem you have to concede that the racial element has been there all along, but the violence has not. The spark and the oxygen that is now igniting the pre-existing fuel are courtesy of gov. policies which when viewed as a whole are either contradictory and stupid or intended to precipitate racial conflict. The use of minimum wage laws, building codes, property taxes, etc. to squeeze the lower class by increasing their unemployment while simultaneously raising the cost of living. Welfare policies which reward actions sure to leave the actors impoverished and lacking the means to improve themselves, the drug war which creates a demand for violent gangs to handle the black-market distribution of illicit substances, not to mention gives police justification to harass and jail people who's only crime, if they committed one at all, was possessing certain types of plants. On top of all this you have the obvious double standards in schools, the media, courts, etc. which encourage barbaric behavior so long as you're a member of one of the protected classes, and continues to create the sentiment among whites that the justice system and police which many of them still respect and honor will not protect them and may well work to prevent them from protecting themselves.

None of this can be blamed on the importation of slaves 200 years ago.

Anonymous DT August 29, 2013 5:57 PM  

Funny how dipshits posts these, violence goes up, yet dipshits takes no responsibility for perpetuating the cycle of violence...

Vibrant yutes in America acting up because they're bored?

Blame a bunch of whitey's commenting on blog posts from a Christian white male living in Italy.

Makes sense...if you're on crack.

Anonymous Matthew August 29, 2013 6:01 PM  

"because POSTING about the acts of violent acts by vibrants ... increases the rate of violent vibrancy?"

It's another symptom of Magical Thinking Syndrome, as originally diagnosed by El Borak. When a person equipped with White Privilege writes or speaks about Authentic Persons in a negative context, he is perceived by MTS sufferers to be performing a magic spell, or a levying a curse.

Anonymous stats79 August 29, 2013 6:03 PM  

"The thing is that most Whites see the dominance displays of Blacks, and their well known athletic superiority, and want to surrender. "

Meah. Not so much. Lingering white guilt (which is fading fast) and indoctrination by Jewish media elite (always a dangerous, subversive presence wherever they are found). Funny, Jews are allowed ethnic state in Middle East, but talk of ethnic favoritism anywhere else in the world will bring the Jewish Media down upon you with frightening force.

Anonymous Robert in Arabia August 29, 2013 6:04 PM  

The America I cared about died at Gettysburg.

Anonymous Jake August 29, 2013 6:05 PM  

"Libertarianism at its core. They will not indeed cannot fight for anything they say they want or believe. Better to leave that to someone else ..."

Incorrect. They will not fight for what YOU want, in the way YOU want them to. You don't even know where the front lines are. Libertarians just aren't stupid enough to form up into battle lines at the command of some megalomaniac in a funny costume. What soldiers are told they're fighting for, and what they're REALLY fighting for, rarely have any meaningful connection.

You probably think George Washington lead the colonies to victory in the Revolutionary War.

Anonymous Titus Didius Tacitus August 29, 2013 6:06 PM  

The problem is white genocide by non-white mass immigration into all white countries and only white countries plus forced integration. That suffices to end whites, with or without violence. The violence is only because the diversity want to do that, and less whites and less power for whites means that the diverse have more opportunities to do what they want.

In that context, nobody who still lives in a historically white country is fleeing the conflict. They're just picking where they prefer to live and where they feel they can do the most good. The conflict is still there, and the conflict will always be there as long as anti-whites are trying to genocide whites.

Anonymous Anti-Democracy Activist August 29, 2013 6:08 PM  

"Vox has always been someone with more brains than balls. Same problem that Roissy has. It's easier to complain about the system and adjust to it than actually fix it."

And how exactly would you propose we all do that? Vote for an (R) instead of a (D) or a (D) instead of an (R)? If there's anything that the last dozen years of American history has conclusively proven, it's that that strategy won't work. Go Howard Beale? How do we do that in a mainstream media environment that's 95% leftist, with almost all of the rest being Murdochian neocon outlets who have no time for alt-right or traditionalist paleocon types? Start a new political party? With all his fame and all his billions, even Ross Perot couldn't make that work - and the system has been adjusted to make it even harder now than it was then. Start a business that's going to change the world? Good luck doing that in today's tax and regulatory environment. Start an organization? Great, if you love getting lots of special attention from the IRS. Blow something up in a dramatic fashion and hope to become a folk hero? How many people even remember the name of that guy who crashed his plane into the IRS office a few years back? His name didn't become a rallying cry and neither will yours; he need never have bothered, and you shouldn't either.

The truth is that Vox is doing the only thing that can be done at the moment - telling the truth in the best outlet available to him. There really is nothing else to do right now. Even a broken clock is right twice a day, and Marx was right about one thing - big impersonal forces of history really do sweep over us, and take us where they will, whether you stand athwart them yelling "Stop!" or not.

Anonymous Mr. Nightstick August 29, 2013 6:10 PM  

Why would I try to fix it when merely making factual observations that the problem exists has many, if not most, WHITE Americans attacking me? Let them be devoured. They deserve it.

You have no reason to try to fix it. However two things come to mind:

Now, most people would not be willing to die for an upright person, though someone might perhaps be willing to die for a person who is especially good. But God showed his great love for us by sending Christ to die for us while we were still sinners.

and

From everyone who has been given much, much will be required; and to whom they entrusted much, of him they will ask all the more.

You have no rational reason to do anything but most heroes never do. That's what make them heroes and heroes are definitely what we need more of these days.

Blogger Phoenician August 29, 2013 6:11 PM  

Right.

Get rid of the vibrants - both whites and blacks. The future belongs to the genetically superior Chinese, right, Dipshit?

Anonymous Titus Didius Tacitus August 29, 2013 6:12 PM  

Anti-Democracy Activist: "The truth is that Vox is doing the only thing that can be done at the moment - telling the truth in the best outlet available to him. There really is nothing else to do right now."

True.

Anonymous Huckleberry - est. 1977 August 29, 2013 6:19 PM  

Uh oh.
Phony's found the JPEGs.
The jig is up, fellas.
Time to pack it in.

Anonymous Sigyn August 29, 2013 6:36 PM  

The future of China shouldn't belong to the Chinese? Whuh?

What is Phony on about this time?

Anonymous Josh August 29, 2013 6:39 PM  

Is Porky the same dude as Porcus who used to comment here, he of the Pigs in the Azaleas fame?
If so, damn you've become quite the obstreperous bastard.


Hell no. Porcus was a fine Southron gentleman with impeccable taste in all manners of fried and fast foods.

Anonymous Doug Touchette August 29, 2013 6:51 PM  

Are whites on the way to being 2nd or 3rd class citizens. Looks like it to me, but my perch is low on the tree.

What would modern day slavery look like?

I think it may have something to do with reparations, using the legal system and the dumb-ass guilt ridden white leadership to set it up. I once heard from the grand opening speech at the Museum of African American History, Detroit - paraphrase - keep our eye on the prize. It stopped me dead in my tracks. I could not believe what I heard. Again, I think there is an end around being enacted. One thing is for sure, it is not about equality.

Anyone keeping up with the recent history of South Africa during and since apartheid? What happened to the whites in the midst of change? One would have to dig a bit to be kept abreast of what was happening there. The whites did not and have not fared well. Only if you submit do you exist.

And finally,

"Who is it that darkeneth counsel by words without knowledge."

Anonymous Mr. Nightstick August 29, 2013 6:52 PM  

@ Anti-Democracy Activist

Answers: If I know that I wouldn't be here asking around and offering critiques. No. No. I don't know. Maybe, the GOP seems to be on the way out. Maybe. No, the Church should be sufficient. No. I don't know.

Anonymous civilServant August 29, 2013 7:03 PM  

They will not fight for what YOU want, in the way YOU want them to.

Close. Libertarianism is all about "Me". They will not fight for anything but themselves and their own interests - and then only if fighting is cost-free or on their doorstep. Consequently they seldom fight effectively at any level because they have no common interests. It is always someone else's responsibility and someone else's fault that society is not the way the libertarian thinks it should be. But if a man will not work then neither let him eat.

The truth is that Vox is doing the only thing that can be done at the moment - telling the truth in the best outlet available to him.

Consider. How much of what he says about blacks and women can be applied just as easily to anyone else lesser than himself?

Blogger Conscientia Republicae August 29, 2013 7:09 PM  

damn, maybe the guy just like living in Italy.What's Next, is he being damned to hell because he does not live in America?

Blogger Justthisguy August 29, 2013 7:16 PM  

Ah, Cogitans, you innocent little kid, you. I am afraid that the nastiness is upon us. Circumspice!

Anonymous VD August 29, 2013 7:26 PM  

Violent crime among juveniles, especially black juveniles, has been on downward trend for the better part of two decades now.

And GDP is up! Read the RGD chapter on government statistics....

I love Vox, but he's in the fire instead of the frying pan. Italy is about to be over-run with vibrant diversity of the Egyptian kind, about 5,000 a week for now and it will only get bigger.

You simply have no idea what you're talking about. What part of 6 percent vs 35 percent do you have trouble understanding. Even if Europe's percentage of Africans DOUBLES, it will still be one-sixth the US black percentage.

You have no rational reason to do anything but most heroes never do. That's what make them heroes and heroes are definitely what we need more of these days.

I have zero interest in being a hero. Everyone in the USA was warned. They rationalized everything. They deserve their fate. After I saw people who had been friends with my father for more than 20 years turn their backs on him simply because the government announced that he was bad, any sympathy I had disappeared.

Anonymous bob k. mando August 29, 2013 7:28 PM  

Phoenician August 29, 2013 6:11 PM
Right.
Get rid of the vibrants - both whites and blacks. The future belongs to the genetically superior Chinese, right, Dipshit?





you have an assertion to back up Phony.

posting a picture of some skinheads peacefully sipping a beer while sitting on the lawn and flashing their tats in no way helps your case of violent vibrancy being induced by Voxposts.

Blogger Justthisguy August 29, 2013 7:34 PM  

Dang, Vox, turning your back on a friend just because the Government is mad at him, well I reckon that means you weren't really his friend to start with.

Anonymous DT August 29, 2013 7:37 PM  

Get rid of the vibrants - both whites and blacks. The future belongs to the genetically superior Chinese, right, Dipshit?

Feral blacks beating up and killing defenseless whites.

Let's blame a bunch of white guys sitting on a lawn drinking beer.

Makes sense...

Blogger Justthisguy August 29, 2013 7:38 PM  

P.s. I think I mean something like, a real friend would be happy to share a cell in prison with you.

Anonymous zen0 August 29, 2013 7:53 PM  

After I saw people who had been friends with my father for more than 20 years turn their backs on him simply because the government announced that he was bad, any sympathy I had disappeared.

Could it be because of this:

Furthermore, Aristotle tells us that a tyrant thrives by creating division and conflict– “to sow quarrels among the citizens; friends should be embroiled with friends, the people with the notables [the rich]. . .”

Aristotle on Tyrants

Anonymous Harsh August 29, 2013 8:02 PM  

Close. Libertarianism is all about "Me".

And you want those people to be all about YOU. YOUR interests, YOUR battles. Forcing people to fight against their own interests, their own survival, is called tyranny, my friend. You can keep re-phrasing it as many times as you wish, but that's what it is.

Anonymous Harsh August 29, 2013 8:06 PM  

The future belongs to the genetically superior Chinese, right, Dipshit?

When has Vox ever said that the future should belong to the genetically superior? Back up your assertion or go away, Phoenician.

Blogger ex-pastor August 29, 2013 8:07 PM  

"it floors me to think that our leaders do not see that this sort of thing only creates more racial animosity."

What makes you think they don't see it?

Anonymous YIH August 29, 2013 8:09 PM  

Death (certificates) took holiday in wake of bankruptcy filing
City couldn't issue death - or birth - certificates because skittish vendor wanted cash to supply paper.
Detrafrica joins the third-world.

Anonymous Anonymous August 29, 2013 8:16 PM  

What makes you think they don't see it?"

I hear you. But "our leaders" are unbelievably insulated. It has something to do with it.

- REMF

Anonymous This is not Idle Spectator August 29, 2013 8:17 PM  

I'm lovin' this. It is like a front row seat to mayhem.

Anonymous Jake August 29, 2013 8:17 PM  

"They will not fight for anything but themselves and their own interests - and then only if fighting is cost-free or on their doorstep."

No argument there, Far preferable to the humanitarians who fight to make others conform to their preferences, even if that means executing non conformists for their own good. And what is the alternative anyways? That they fight for you and your interests? That they seek out conflicts outside their area of concern? No thanks.

"Consequently they seldom fight effectively at any level because they have no common interests."

This does not follow from the above, nor is it true that libertarians have no common interests. I'd say the converse, libertarians have a strong correlation of interests, they just tend to seek the removal of political power instead of its application to their benefit. I can understand how someone with the moniker "civil servant" would struggle to acknowledge the existence of common interests that don't express themselves in the form of the gun-in-the-ribcage of state action.

"It is always someone else's responsibility and someone else's fault that society is not the way the libertarian thinks it should be."

"someone else" is responsible for their own actions yes. But you are mistaken if you think there no organizations or individuals taking responsibility for improving society. Given that you seem to know very little about libertarians it seems silly to make this claim. Argument from ignorance I'd call it. And the only requirement the libertarian has of a just society is that its members not use force on other members. Beyond that they may have personal aesthetic preferences and they might organize groups, communities, etc. that vary based on these preferences, but that's not a problem so long as the first criteria is met.

"Consider. How much of what he says about blacks and women can be applied just as easily to anyone else lesser than himself?"

Lesser in what way? What is your measure of value here? Morality? Intelligence? Wealth? Writing skill? Spacial reasoning? Preference in alcoholic drinks?

Anonymous Anonymous August 29, 2013 8:18 PM  

"Even if Europe's percentage of Africans DOUBLES, it will still be one-sixth the US black percentage."

Sounds like paradise.

- REMF

Anonymous Anonymous August 29, 2013 8:21 PM  

Phoenician,
If you wanted to pick intimidating people with tattoos (skins, niggers, etc...), that image is a shitty choice. I didn't see any flashlights or firearms. But one did have a beer in his hand...Run!

- REMF

Anonymous zen0 August 29, 2013 8:23 PM  

civil servant decries reality:

It is always someone else's responsibility and someone else's fault that society is not the way the libertarian thinks it should be.

Yes. The over bloated government. With all kinds of wealth parasites like civil servants.

Anonymous Mr. Nightstick August 29, 2013 8:26 PM  

I have zero interest in being a hero. Everyone in the USA was warned. They rationalized everything. They deserve their fate. After I saw people who had been friends with my father for more than 20 years turn their backs on him simply because the government announced that he was bad, any sympathy I had disappeared.

Fair enough. Looking forward to reading your Taleb posts. I'm wondering if you will have any substantial criticisms.

Anonymous Titus Didius Tacitus August 29, 2013 8:32 PM  

VD: "Everyone in the USA was warned. They rationalized everything. They deserve their fate."

It's not for the sake of the wicked that one struggles, but for the sakes of those of our mutual ancestors who were better, and our collective descendants who will also need to be better or else we have no future.

Anonymous DT August 29, 2013 8:41 PM  

It's not for the sake of the wicked that one struggles, but for the sakes of those of our mutual ancestors who were better, and our collective descendants who will also need to be better or else we have no future.

And those of us who did not rationalize and do not want the future set by the idiots among us.

I wish I could pull an Aaron Clarey and enjoy the decline, but I just do not believe that's the correct course of action.

Blogger Nate August 29, 2013 8:47 PM  

" Even if Europe's percentage of Africans DOUBLES, it will still be one-sixth the US black percentage."

I should point that Europe doesn't have a history of hanging them for behaving badly.

I don't know where around Jacksonville you lived... but I can tell for certain there is a big difference in the black folks in the deep south and the black folks in chicago.

Anonymous DonReynolds August 29, 2013 8:54 PM  

civilServant...."Close. Libertarianism is all about "Me". They will not fight for anything but themselves and their own interests - and then only if fighting is cost-free or on their doorstep. Consequently they seldom fight effectively at any level because they have no common interests. It is always someone else's responsibility and someone else's fault that society is not the way the libertarian thinks it should be."

Very good point, but still a little off. I could never claim to be a Libertarian (although they are perfectly delightful people) because they basically believe that coercion is wrong (in and of itself) and they imagine a society where everyone voluntarialy lives a life of freedom and liberty.

Freedom and liberty will never result because of a well-reasoned argument, or because of a good PR campaign, or because the women will vote for it. Liberty and freedom are achieved for a group of men (make it as large or as small as you like) who are willing and prepared to kill other men, who would take it from them. Moral suasion is not ever going to work. (Know how I know that? Because it never has.) Men of like mind can make themselves free of rule by other men by claiming a place and defending it with deadly force. Yes, that is the ultimate in coercion, which the Libertarians insist is just wrong.

Freedom and liberty are never cheap. They are terribly expensive in all ways and if you are not willing to pay the price, you and your children will not have it.

A slave is a person who waits for someone else to free him. Has it ever been any different?

Anonymous Anti-Democracy Activist August 29, 2013 9:06 PM  

"Close. Libertarianism is all about "Me"... They will not fight for anything but themselves and their own interests - and then only if fighting is cost-free or on their doorstep."

Again, as opposed to *what*? This might not sit well with the armchair samurais of the world, but sometimes "Every man for himself!" is the only logical reaction to the situation at hand. The situation in the west right now is such that those who try to make a positive difference and strike a blow for sanity and decency are widely reviled and ruthlessly punished for their trouble. The situation actively demands that people of this sort mind their own business - are they really such villains if, eventually, they do?

Anonymous Jake August 29, 2013 9:08 PM  

"Men of like mind can make themselves free of rule by other men by claiming a place and defending it with deadly force. Yes, that is the ultimate in coercion, which the Libertarians insist is just wrong."

Huh? Force in defense of person, property, rights, generally seen as A-ok. Force against these things, bad. That's why it's called "non-aggression", rather than "pacifism".

Anonymous Titus Didius Tacitus August 29, 2013 9:09 PM  

DT: "And those of us who did not rationalize and do not want the future set by the idiots among us."

Unfortunately there's not enough of us for that to be an exciting motive.

But we have many ancestors who worked for a permanent posterity where they would be honored by their own descendants. They earned it, they deserve it, and their interests, even as the dead, should be weighed more heavily than the customs and opinions of the trash we see.

And endless generations of descendants like those honored ancestors and not at all like the wiggers and white genocide backers of the present day - that's something worth hanging in there for.

-

DT: "I wish I could pull an Aaron Clarey and enjoy the decline, but I just do not believe that's the correct course of action."

I don't think so either.

If we have no future, then God has or the gods have no concern with us. Do whatever whim or self-indulgence suggests; it makes no difference.

If we do have a future, it won't consist in continued submission to cultural corruption and genocidal tyranny. It must be something better, something we shouldn't give up on.

Anonymous Stilicho August 29, 2013 9:09 PM  

The future belongs to the genetically superior Chinese

No, but New Zealand probably does. Squeewee.

Anonymous duckman August 29, 2013 9:17 PM  

Contemporary ghetto "culture" did not originate in Africa, but in northern England near Scotland, the Scottish highlands, and Ulster - in short, the rough (vibrant) areas of the British Isles. Bill Clinton was not our first black president; Andrew Jackson was. That's what I remember from the book. Made/makes sense to me.

Blogger TontoBubbaGoldstein August 29, 2013 9:42 PM  

Is Porky the same dude as Porcus who used to comment here, he of the Pigs in the Azaleas fame?

Nope. Porcus was a fellow South Carolinian and Clemson grad, IIRC. Haven't seen a post from him in years....

You out there, cuz?

Blogger Kristophr August 29, 2013 9:59 PM  

Doug Touchette: What would modern day slavery look like?

Look around you. American who work are already indentured for half a year to those sucking on the government tit.


Duckman: Bill Clinton was not our first black president; Andrew Jackson was.

Andrew Jackson would have nuked Dar Al Islam in its entirety after the 9-11 attack.

Anonymous civilServant August 29, 2013 10:03 PM  

Close. Libertarianism is all about "Me".

And you want those people to be all about YOU. YOUR interests, YOUR battles.

And what is the alternative anyways? That they fight for you and your interests?


Observe. It is "Me" as opposed to the "You". And not only is the "You" never legitimate there also is no other source of action.

libertarians ... tend to seek the removal of political power

Libertarians seek not the removal of political power but rather its concentration in themselves individually and unaccountably. They imagine this can work because presently they are not responsible for making it work. If ever the time comes when they and they alone are responsible in and of themselves for making it work they will fail upon the first serious encounter or disagreement. They will fail because Libertarianism is about "Me" but any organization any culture any society any city any state any nation is about more than "Me".

And the only requirement the libertarian has of a just society is that its members not use force on other members.

they basically believe that coercion is wrong (in and of itself)


Where there is perfect agreement between people libertarians feel no oppression or coercion. Where disagreement or rules exist they feel oppression. Where serious disagreement or serious rules exist they feel coercion. This is why so many of them live alone or with no children in semi-isolated locations. They play at societies or clubs but their basic desire is that nothing touch them at all without their explicit prior invitation.

I could never claim to be a Libertarian

As I watch the deterioration of my nation I had thought to take up Libertarianism. But after reading this blog it is clear that there is no future in it. No matter how much food or ammunition or gold they stock they will all fall one by one or perhaps region by region to whatever "Greater Than Me" comes along.

Anonymous duckman August 29, 2013 10:04 PM  

RE: Pittsburgh as part of the South - does remind me of Stephen Foster (from Pittsburgh) who wrote "Oh, Susannah", "Sewanee River", "Old Kentucky Home", etc. Perhaps it means nothing. Seems interesting though.

Anonymous Harsh August 29, 2013 10:05 PM  

Contemporary ghetto "culture" did not originate in Africa, but in northern England near Scotland, the Scottish highlands, and Ulster - in short, the rough (vibrant) areas of the British Isles. Bill Clinton was not our first black president; Andrew Jackson was. That's what I remember from the book. Made/makes sense to me.

Nah, Celts aren't black, they're God's chosen people. You can tell this because he has to keep them in check with whiskey less they take over the world.

Anonymous kh123 August 29, 2013 10:06 PM  

"Contemporary ghetto "culture" did not originate in Africa, but in northern England near Scotland, the Scottish highlands, and Ulster - in short, the rough (vibrant) areas of the British Isles."

I'm not sure you can say that a Murphy vs Moore distinction has the same definition of "vibrancy", Ulster opinions notwithstanding.

Blogger Kristophr August 29, 2013 10:06 PM  

DonReynolds: I guess because there is no nonsense about their race relations or baloney about trust and the golden rule.

Not baloney, Don. Do you trust your government? Have they followed the golden rule?

The answer is No. They let their clients ( welfare trash ) run roughshod over everyone else. Unless this is fixed, it will end badly for those continuing this assault on civilized persons.

I am not as pessimistic as most, I guess. I think we can fix this, even if we have to get violent to do it.

Blogger Ann Morgan August 29, 2013 10:08 PM  

**This is how civilizations die, one individual retreat at a time.

One or two small raids or attacks by small groups of barbarians in the early 300s, if not swiftly and violently put down by well-organized civilized people secure and confident in themselves and the rightness of their cause, will eventually lead to the horde setting up tents and sharpening their swords outside the city gates in the mid 400s, and taking over that city by 475.

We aren't putting these barbarians down in large numbers today, and there are not plans to do so in the future, so I'm sorry to say that things are going to get a lot worse before they get any better.**

Civilizations start dying even before that, when it becomes acceptable for *some* of the civilized people (the cute ones) to abuse others, and unacceptable for the others to defend themselves. Once you accept that certain people are not allowed to defend themselves, you've abandoned your own best argument for ANYONE being allowed to defend themselves. You abandoned that when you abandoned morality.

Anonymous Harsh August 29, 2013 10:11 PM  

Libertarians seek not the removal of political power but rather its concentration in themselves individually and unaccountably. They imagine this can work because presently they are not responsible for making it work.

Bzzt, straw man argument. The essence of Libertarianism is a decrease of political power and increase of personal responsibility. In short, the body politic cannot understand my personal interests better than I can, and therefore should have no say in the matter.

Blogger Kristophr August 29, 2013 10:15 PM  

Pure libertarianism can never work.

The base assumption of libertarianism is that people will figure out that civilized behavior is in their best interest, and make decisions based on this.

Unfortunately, many folks just don't think, and do what their subconscious urges them to do. They need some form of supervision, or they will do bad shit to others for a quick short term profit.

The State will always be needed to ride herd on assholes. The trick is to recognize when assholes have infiltrated the State, and remove them.

Anonymous Billy August 29, 2013 10:17 PM  

I read Black Rednecks, It's a crock of shit.

Blogger LP 999/Eliza August 29, 2013 10:20 PM  

Yep, avoid 90% of PittsB and Jefferson County OH if you can.

Anonymous Harsh August 29, 2013 10:20 PM  

Pure libertarianism can never work.

Whether or not it can work is debatable. But it is not the shirking of responsibility as civilServant claims.

Blogger Ann Morgan August 29, 2013 10:20 PM  

Don Reynolds wrote: ** And yes, the body count will run into the hundreds before it ends. That is when you know you hit the "wrong one".**

Another way you know you hit the 'wrong one': When it turns out they have an IQ at least 50 points higher than your own, and starts a vendetta against you of a particularly clever nature that the lawyer you hire to try to stop them says that there is absolutely nothing he can do about, and within a year, you have lost two jobs, your house, your wife, and end up in a trailer park drinking yourself to death.

The first rule of throwing your weight around against other people: Make sure you are the smartest person in the room.

People throw their weight around basically because they think they can get away with it. As it happens, sometimes they can't. A hint to the wise: Is the reason you are throwing your weight around a great moral principal important enough to lose your job, your house, your wife, and the lives of your best friends and relatives? If not, you probably should consider not throwing your weight around.

Anonymous zen0 August 29, 2013 10:27 PM  

Kristophr suggests:

The State will always be needed to ride herd on assholes. The trick is to recognize when assholes have infiltrated the State, and remove them.

Actually, assholes are generated by the structure and function of the state. Why would the State reject its children?

Anonymous Billy August 29, 2013 10:33 PM  

"The America I cared about died at Gettysburg." Amen Brother. The Constitution died with the South's loss.

Blogger Nate August 29, 2013 10:36 PM  

"'Libertarians seek not the removal of political power but rather its concentration in themselves individually and unaccountably. They imagine this can work because presently they are not responsible for making it work. If ever the time comes when they and they alone are responsible in and of themselves for making it work they will fail upon the first serious encounter or disagreement. "

Do you sleep in a helmet?

Blogger Ann Morgan August 29, 2013 10:41 PM  

**No matter how much food or ammunition or gold they stock they will all fall one by one or perhaps region by region to whatever "Greater Than Me" comes along.**

If the 'Greater Than Me' hasn't got the brains to feed itself, which the majority of people do not, it has a remarkably short time window to make everyone else fall, before it starves to death.

Blogger James Dixon August 29, 2013 10:41 PM  

> Violent crime among juveniles, especially black juveniles, has been on downward trend for the better part of two decades now.

You left out a key word at the beginning of that sentence. Reported.

> They will not indeed cannot fight for anything they say they want or believe.

Keep on believing that, civilServant. I'm sure you find it comforting at night.

Anonymous Gunnutmegger August 29, 2013 10:45 PM  

To anyone living in Europe: are you allowed to own guns suitable for self-defense? And, do you think that will make the claim of a lower % of vibrants/muslims in your country more (or less) of a factor in your survival if the shiite hits the fan?

To anyone in the South who can't stop whining about losing the Civil War: it's time for you to acknowledge reality and move on. No intelligent person has accused you of inventing slavery, let alone personally capturing vibrants in the wild and enslaving them. We duked it out to decide the issue and you lost. Accept it and move on, like a grownup.

Anonymous Jake August 29, 2013 10:48 PM  

Where there is perfect agreement between people libertarians feel no oppression or coercion. Where disagreement or rules exist they feel oppression. Where serious disagreement or serious rules exist they feel coercion. This is why so many of them live alone or with no children in semi-isolated locations. They play at societies or clubs but their basic desire is that nothing touch them at all without their explicit prior invitation.

Yea I kind of thought so...

You have no idea what you're talking about.

It's not the absence of rules, it's the existence of an over-arching rule "do not trespass against your neighbor".

It's also not anti-society. There are, I imagine, a few people who imagine they'd like to live as a hermit and have no dealings with anyone, but they're just weird. In general, living completely independent sucks, even if you are the rare person who could actually do it without getting yourself dead very quickly.

It's not my fault that you can't imagine a society without someone like you telling everyone else what to do (for the greater good, of course). The limitations of your imagination will not convince many.

Anonymous Stilicho August 29, 2013 10:52 PM  

Do you sleep in a helmet?

Who knows? I'll bet his diaper's full though.

Anonymous Jake August 29, 2013 10:56 PM  

"We duked it out to decide the issue and you lost. Accept it and move on, like a grownup. "

I always find this argument interesting. A restatement of the elementary school rhetoric of "my dad can beat up your dad, so I'm right!"

I'm not even the type to waive the confederate flag or anything like that, but I don't understand how anyone who values liberty can't see how the civil war was a disaster. The slaves were freed, but the chains were forged to enslave the entire population. The whole of the western world managed to end slavery without violence, gotta think it could have been done in a better way. Not that slavery had anything to do with Lincoln's invasion, but that's the ex post facto justification.

Anonymous Daniel August 29, 2013 10:58 PM  

To anyone in the South who can't stop whining about losing the Civil War: it's time for you to acknowledge reality and move on. No intelligent person has accused you of inventing slavery, let alone personally capturing vibrants in the wild and enslaving them. We duked it out to decide the issue and you lost. Accept it and move on, like a grownup.

What in the hell do you mean by "we" kemosabe? I'm a direct descendant of Union officers, and I guarantee you "we" didn't win jack.

Anonymous Stilicho August 29, 2013 10:58 PM  

It's not my fault that you can't imagine a society without someone like you telling everyone else what to do (for the greater good, of course). The limitations of your imagination will not convince many.

True, but can you really hold those limitations against it? It is a characteristic of the yellow-bellied American Boomer that it views all things through the prism of its navel. This sometimes results in it flying into walls. It also enables its phenomenal powers of projection. It is amusing for a little while, but rapidly becomes boring to watch it make the same mistakes over and over again.

Anonymous Anti-Democracy Activist August 29, 2013 11:02 PM  

It is my own theory - perhaps with some inspiration from Sturgeon - that in any place, in any era, under any system, a consistent 15% or so of the people genuinely don't deserve the government they have.

They - we - are the ones I feel genuinely sorry for.

Anonymous Harsh August 29, 2013 11:03 PM  

To anyone in the South who can't stop whining about losing the Civil War: it's time for you to acknowledge reality and move on. No intelligent person has accused you of inventing slavery, let alone personally capturing vibrants in the wild and enslaving them. We duked it out to decide the issue and you lost. Accept it and move on, like a grownup.

By that logic women's liberation should have never happened. Women should have just accepted their position in society and moved on. So my question to you, sir, is why do you hate women?

Anonymous Anti-Democracy Activist August 29, 2013 11:04 PM  

It's not my fault that you can't imagine a society without someone like you telling everyone else what to do (for the greater good, of course).

Hey, everybody - remember when leftists used to go around saying: "You can't legislate morality"? Yeah - that was a long time ago.

Anonymous Chad August 29, 2013 11:45 PM  

I would have to disagree with the sentiment that blacks are genetically predisposed to violence. To me their behavior is what would be expected of anyone who has been convinced that they are always a victim of circumstance. It's never 'their' fault that their situation is bad. It's this mentality more than anything that will destroy a people.

The other reason why I would disagree with the sentiment is that following slavery blacks actually had higher rates of employment and marriage than whites. That was true until 1930.

The problem now is blacks believe the private sector is responsible for effects the government caused. They think it's private sector discrimination that keeps them impoverished when it's actually various regulations imposed by the government.

Blogger A August 30, 2013 12:00 AM  

Agree with Chad. Also, one cannot ever forget the civilization destroying effects of single-mother parenthood and all the early life traumas that impact the development of the pre-frontal cortex, your empathy center.

Anonymous Harsh August 30, 2013 12:20 AM  

I would have to disagree with the sentiment that blacks are genetically predisposed to violence.

All evidence to the contrary.

Anonymous DonReynolds August 30, 2013 12:23 AM  

In the tradition of Thomas Hobbs, Adam Smith, and Thomas Carlyle, there is nothing that guarantees free markets or that they will suddenly appear in the absence of government. (Libertarians are the only people who believe that freedom and markets exist only where there is no government.) Political organization is necessary to define the law, for some measure of justice, the rights of persons and property, and the enforcement of contracts. I like the phrase, "anarchy plus the constable" because the role of the state should be limited, but without coercion or force, there simply is no reason for anyone and everyone to play nice. Rules create reasonable expectations and we all act on those expectations. Without rules, then any expectations are based only on optimism and wishful thinking, and likely to result in disappointment. Driving on the right-hand side of the road is a good rule....one I can recommend....and I hope everyone else will too.


Anonymous Luke August 30, 2013 12:29 AM  

Chad August 29, 2013 11:45 PM

"I would have to disagree with the sentiment that blacks are genetically predisposed to violence. To me their behavior is what would be expected of anyone who has been convinced that they are always a victim of circumstance"

Your position is inaccurate. Were it true, Jews could be expected to be the most violent-crime prone people in the world.

Anonymous ericcs August 30, 2013 12:56 AM  

Unfortunately, Ginger Slepski did not follow Derbyshire's rules. She baited a bunch of savages who have been given a license to kill in a race war by leftists and that Lying Scum in the White House (LSWH).

This can only get worse. There is no longer any good solution remaining in this country. Ultimately, the right of free association must trump any forced integration and affirmative action. Putting that back into practice legally and culturally will mean self-segregation... admit it and get on with it, because instead what we have now is endless destructive chaos.

Evolution does not stop at the neck. What we all need to realize deep down in our gut is that reality is racist. Differences have never been just because of economics, and it is more basic than culture, at least insofar as that could somehow be divorced from genetics. Accept it, and then stop feeling guilty over nothing every time a leftist attacks you with "racism" over just being alive.

If a leftist screamed "racist" and no one cared, would she still be a tyrannical sack of lies?

Anonymous ericcs August 30, 2013 1:02 AM  

Chad: "...blacks believe...", "...blacks think...".

So you're saying that blacks are predisposed to drawing wrong conclusions as well as too lazy to dig out information for themselves. And yet you DON'T ascribe this to genetics?

You are a right liberal, destined to morph into left liberalism at the drop of a hat because you have no intellectual defenses to prevent it. I'd recommend you go back and re-examine your conclusions in light of your original premises, then think again.

Anonymous ericcs August 30, 2013 1:10 AM  

Time to re-post...

Why is Phoenician so obsessed with VD and dipping 'something' into shit? It appears that, once started, his queer mancrush on Vox can never be satiated. Unrequited homoerotic fixation... you might want to see a professional about that someday (real soon!), Phoenician, you know, get 'it' fixed.

Anonymous Jake August 30, 2013 1:21 AM  

but without coercion or force, there simply is no reason for anyone and everyone to play nice. Rules create reasonable expectations and we all act on those expectations. Without rules, then any expectations are based only on optimism and wishful thinking, and likely to result in disappointment. Driving on the right-hand side of the road is a good rule....one I can recommend....and I hope everyone else will too.

And who has said "there should be no rules"? And isn't it the state that routinely:

Breaks the rules
Redefines the rules
Selectively enforces the rules
discovers and enforces rules that do not exist
Crafts rules to aid favored groups and hinder disfavored groups
Steals far more than all private thieves?
Kills far more than all private murderers?

Also, as has already been pointed out. Libertarianism is the absence of aggression, not the absence of force (or else why all the guns?). I said "force" the first time I know, but in most conversations the assumption that force in defense of person or property is accepted doesn't require explicit statement at all, much less multiple times. No one on here (that I know of) is of the pacifist view.

You think we need the US gov. to protect us from barbarians inside our walls? Who brought them here? Who's policies melded them into a cohesive under-class? Who's paid them to raise kids without fathers, subjected their children to 13+ years of anti-education in miserable conditions, subsidized bad decisions at every opportunity. Who's indoctrinated them into entitlement thinking, told them the only reason their living in slums is because the middle class is somehow taking the poor's "share" of some imaginary pie. Who ignores, suppresses, and hides crimes committed by some of this underclass while making national news out of a law-abiding man defending himself from one such thug? Who works at every turn to make the decent people of all incomes and races powerless to defend themselves against the mob of thugs they have created/imported over the past 50 years?

How's that "government is here to protect me" thinking working out for you?

Anonymous Harsh August 30, 2013 1:23 AM  

Why is Phoenician so obsessed with VD and dipping 'something' into shit? It appears that, once started, his queer mancrush on Vox can never be satiated. Unrequited homoerotic fixation... you might want to see a professional about that someday (real soon!), Phoenician, you know, get 'it' fixed.

The problem is Phoenician is a coward so he never engages other posters in dialogue. He lobs his hand grenades and flees. Personally, I think this is grounds for banishment but Vox seems to want to keep him around. And it is after all his right to do so.

Anonymous Chad August 30, 2013 1:39 AM  

I'm saying society (mainly media and education)is predisposed to giving them the idea that their problems all have external roots.

Genetic predisposition has nothing to do with the inclination to readily accept explanations that make your failures not your fault. And that's the essence of the blame society mentality.

Essentially the black community would have to look at its current situation and conclude that either their actions have resulted in colossal failure or something is holding them back. Which do you suppose is easier to accept?

Anonymous Toby Temple August 30, 2013 1:43 AM  

How can the Southron slavers be blamed for the negro barbs?

Didn't the Northerners ended slavery which lead to the slaves being freed and allowed to multiply at their own will?

Blame the fuckin' North.

You freed the dogs and let them be and now you wonder why there are so many savage strays?

Anonymous Matamoron And His Gay Friends SugarTIT(u)S And EnRICque August 30, 2013 1:45 AM  

"Actually, if you bother to do the research, many if not the majority of the Southern plantations, and hence slaves, were owned by Yankees."

In the first U.S. census of 1790, there were 697,624 slaves. The New England states had 3,763 slaves, or 0.5% of the national total. If we divide the states up between the future Union and Confederacy, the Union states in 1790 had 61,403 (23.6%) of the slaves, and the Confederate states had 529,768 (75.9%) of the slaves.

By 1804, all states north of the Mason-Dixon line had laws either forbidding slavery or providing for its gradual elimination.

In the U.S. census of 1820, there were 1,529,012 slaves. New England states had 145 (<0.1%) of the slaves. The future Union states had 267,939 (17.5%) of the slaves. The future Confederate states had 1,261,073 (82.5%) of the slaves.

Since there were more Northerners than Southerners and there were more slaves in the South, it would have been physically impossible for more Northerners than Southerners to own slaves on a per capita basis in 1860. Since slavery was also illegal in northern states via the Compromise of 1820 and state statutes, the only way for a person to own slaves in the North was to bring a personal servant from the South.


"What's being selected for is not being white. Every year the population grows less white, as a result of continuing non-white mass immigration, non-white fertility, and intense pressure on the whites, primarily through forced integration. In evolutionary terms, the ultimate cost of this system for whites is everything: extinction. This is genocide."

Well, then, it's settled. America ought to follow Putin's lead. Nate and Josh would be tickled pink. Enter the Russian gummint (trumpets sound)! “Free stuff” in the form of housing and education, direct cash payments to women who pop out more chilluns (and even adjusting their work schedules to meet maternal demands!), and programs to dry out the Vodka swilling man-childs running amok.

I'm sure the Christian Libertarian intelligentsia in their shiny jackboots would approve of these measures to address falling white birth rates and meet the vibrant scourge head-on!


"Ultimately, the right of free association must trump any forced integration and affirmative action."

Child-like fantasies on display. There is a thing called the Constitution and majority rules. I suggest you learn more about them.


"Unrequited homoerotic fixation... you might want to see a professional about that someday (real soon!)"

Projecting is your strong suit.



Anonymous JB August 30, 2013 2:06 AM  

[b]Ginger Slepski. So many Pole in Pittsburg and the same deal in Chicago. It seems the savages know that Poles are easy picking. No one ever heard of Polish rage or Polish revenge.[/b]

She probably as much Polish as your Martian ;) Cracks me up when Americans refer to themselves and other Americans as Polish/Italian/English etc. when they x generations removed from those nations.

No such issues in Poland obviously as it's a very homogenous society, but this article should give an idea how it would've gone down: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-23766759

One note, not mentioned in the article - the Mexican cadets had and used knifes and other blades. The Poles used bare hands, still didn't stop them at all.

Blogger redlegben August 30, 2013 2:23 AM  

Matamoron, I have no idea about this truth. However, it isn't impossible that Northerners lived in Union states and owned property in the South. The statistics you provided reference part of this but all. Obviously very few people owned the majority of slaves. This smells a lot like bankers today. Bankers own their slaves today independent of where they live. I can't imagine it has ever been different.

BTW, mob rule isn't exactly something the Ilk approve of around here.

Anonymous Toby Temple August 30, 2013 2:23 AM  

There is a thing called the Constitution and majority rules.

Constitution trumps(supposedly) majority rules. It is there to prevent the tyranny of the majority.

Blogger redlegben August 30, 2013 2:24 AM  

"but all" should be "but not all". Sorry.

Anonymous Toby Temple August 30, 2013 2:31 AM  

There is a thing called the Constitution and majority rules.

Constitution trumps(supposedly) majority rules. It is there to prevent the tyranny of the majority.

Blogger Ann Morgan August 30, 2013 3:51 AM  

Regarding the contention written by someone here that from the person who has been given a lot, a lot will be expected - I was given an IQ of 166. But so far as I'm concerned, my dues, so far as what can reasonably be expected of me, were paid a long time ago, about the 500th or 600th time I was sexually molested and physically tortured by my so-called peers in school. So now those peers are upset that the chickens have come home to roost and they are being treated the way I was treated? I'm not sympathetic. Like Vox, my sympathy vanished a long time ago. My mind and 35 years of reading about survival techniques are not on the marketplace for anyone but my family and friends.

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