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Tuesday, December 10, 2013

An embarrassing failure

I tried. So help me, I tried. I honestly thought I had pulled it off, but the verdict is in and I simply didn't manage to do it. McRapey writes:
From January 1 through today, Mr. Beale has mentioned me by name (or by nickname) on those two sites 145 times. This is defined as references in blog posts; other references — references in comments, persistent sidebar links, or comments by others weren’t counted, nor were Twitter or other social media posts. If you want to do the math, that means Mr. Beale invoked me on his blogs on average once every 2.366 days. Which is rather a lot! There are 22 days left in the year, which means if Mr. Beale follows his average, he’ll mention me nine more times before the ball drops in Times Square. So, for my purposes, I am using 154 times as the official tally number.

I had pledged $5 per reference up to $1,000, which (again with the math) means that Mr. Beale would have had to reference me 200 times over the year for the full payout. 154 times turns out to be 77% of that.

So: If you made a pledge to support the Counteract a Bigot fund drive earlier this year, please donate at least 77% of your pledge amount to the organizations you pledged to fund.

I say at least because, of course, I encourage you to donate the full amount of your pledge if you can. I will be doing so, I have just done so, as well as adding in another $250 to my pledge as thanks to the friend who kept track of Mr. Beale’s sites so I didn’t have to. But even if everyone sticks to just 77% of their full pledge amount, we’ll still have donated at least $46,000 dollars to charities and organizations dedicated to fighting bigotry and/or sexual assault in its various forms. And that ain’t bad.

As for Mr. Beale, well. He’s Dunning-Kruger’s favorite son. As such he’s incapable of imagining himself in anything other than a victory condition, so I’m sure he’ll imagine one here, too. Let him. The rest of us know better.
The idea that I am incapable of imagining myself in anything other than a victory condition is an interesting one; I am admittedly good at many things, but I'm not THAT good. Indeed, one need merely look at my failure to mention McRapey the requisite 200 times to see that I am not always triumphant. I am embarrassed. I am chagrined. And I would also be remiss if I did not bring the following facts to the reader's attention. (The numbers in parentheses are global Alexa rankings.)

Alexa USA rankings 12/12/12
12,996 Whatever
29,426 Vox Popoli
73,183 Alpha Game

Alexa USA rankings 12/12/13
6,690 Vox Popoli (55,972)
14,181 Alpha Game (101,337)
50,207 Whatever (143,885)

Google Pageviews November 2012
745,857 "those two sites"
726,445 Whatever

Google Pageviews November 2013
1,058,663 "those two sites"
384,958 Whatever

Considering that the victory conditions last year were established as blog traffic, with members of the Whatever warren taunting me about Whatever's supposedly gargantuan blog readership and McRapey himself pounding his chest about his 8 million pageviews in 2012 when he wasn't advertising his "50,000 DAILY READERS", in this case, the facts speak rather clearly for themselves. McRapey is unlikely to even hit 7.5 million Google pageviews this year; imagine how much more his readership would have declined if "those two sites" hadn't mentioned him 145 times, to say nothing of the copious references on Heartiste and other sites.

I note that the Dunning-Kruger effect is "a cognitive bias in which unskilled individuals suffer from illusory superiority."  I leave it to the reader to determine who the description fits more closely.

But at least he'll always have his Participation Hugo.

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99 Comments:

Anonymous David of One December 10, 2013 8:47 AM  

Wow! He's really showing you whatever.

Mention him a few more times today and really put a hurt on yourself.

You've got to be a sore loser after all of this. Go ahead hurt yourself some more Vox. Get it to 80%. I feel your pain man. ;-)

I suppose this is leading up to a follow-up interview of how much he has endured.

Anonymous Lulabelle December 10, 2013 8:50 AM  

22 days left in the year.........why is he calling it now?
Maybe he's going on vacation in that big ol' yard.

Anonymous Larry TCG December 10, 2013 8:55 AM  

"Participation Hugo".

Now that right there's funny, I don't care who you are.

Anonymous Alexander December 10, 2013 8:56 AM  

Vox, look at it this way, you referenced McRapey enough times that he and his readers felt compelled to donate ~$1 million.

Failure, I think not!

Anonymous allyn71 December 10, 2013 9:01 AM  

"But at least he'll always have his Participation Hugo."

When I read this an image of Golem carressing his precious came to mind. Sad, so very sad.

On the plus side the incetous, black, lesbians will be anxiously anticipating the bounty of the warren that is about to befall unto them.

Anonymous YIH December 10, 2013 9:11 AM  

Congratulations on your epic fail Vox!

Anonymous MendoScot December 10, 2013 9:12 AM  

Vox, look at it this way, you referenced McRapey enough times that he and his readers felt compelled to donate ~$1 million.

It is Bistronomics!

Anonymous Commented from Mars December 10, 2013 9:18 AM  

Is a "Bigot" better/worse than a racist, homophobe or Hate Chicken? Just curious...

Anonymous Stilicho December 10, 2013 9:20 AM  

This is all a vast distraction! 50 bazillion McRapey fans are eagerly awaiting his next adventure in plagarism while you confuse him with numbers. How can we expect I, Rabbit to hit the bookshelves if he's trying to count past 20? Asimov wept.

Anonymous Stilicho December 10, 2013 9:21 AM  

It is Bistronomics!

Ha! Good one.

Anonymous TX December 10, 2013 9:26 AM  

I'm sickened that $46,000 is NOT being donated to the Nelson Mandela Memorial Fund. Raciss!

Anonymous Jonzen December 10, 2013 9:27 AM  

So one of the commenters at his blog did a nice job pointing out to McRapey that the Dunning-Kruger effect really doesn’t describe Vox.

I shit you not, his only response was, “I’m right, because Bachelors in Philosophy of Language.”

Anonymous Johnathan Knight December 10, 2013 9:29 AM  

I, Rabbit -- I don't say much, but that's funny.

***

I get a kick out of Scalzi's pride in his own rhetoric. When questioned on it, he turns it into a contest of credentials, bringing no less than a bachelor's degree to the fight.

Anonymous VD December 10, 2013 9:30 AM  

I shit you not, his only response was, “I’m right, because Bachelors in Philosophy of Language.”

He has learned literally nothing since 2005. That was precisely his response to my pointing out, complete with multiple examples from both sides of the political spectrum, that rhetorical hyperbole is customarily used in op/ed articles.

You can tell he's not from the middle class because he's weirdly impressed with bachelor's degrees.

Blogger Glen Filthie December 10, 2013 10:00 AM  

I am regularly called a bigot by liberal lickspittles, perverts and other leftwing f-tards.

If McRapey is having an effect on us I have yet to see it. Keep forking over that cash, morons! But just so ya know...ya might want to ask where your cash is going...

Anonymous DB Stein December 10, 2013 10:01 AM  

Even a brief skim of something like his Wiki article reveals Scalzi comes from a somewhat privileged background; it has been my observation that people like Scalzi who like to lecture and hector people and "racists" about so-called "white privilege" seem to be among the whitest and privileged, which made his "white privilege is like a video game setting!" bit and the lecture/list from a few years ago he started "When You Are Poor..." seem all the more risible; the latter especially because it opened a flood of reply commentary from frankly a bunch of freaking nerds who all seem to have money and means to collect books and games and comics and various gimmicks and visit conventions every year deciding they know what it means to be poor because they've had to stock their apartment with used IKEA furniture or something.

Blogger Bogey December 10, 2013 10:08 AM  

Speaking as someone whose degree is Philosophy of language (ie, rhetoric), I see lots of evidence to the contrary, I’m afraid. He’s not bad at sounding like he knows what he’s talking about as long as you don’t know what he’s talking about, but that’s not the same thing as being rhetorically skilled, except to the limited extent that “rhetoric” means “ability to spew bullshit.”

I'm really trying to resist an impulse to challenge him to dazzle us with that undergraduate education he's so proud of. You see he has "lots of evidence" so it should be a cake walk for him, but by now know he's never really open for serious debate.

Anonymous VD December 10, 2013 10:10 AM  

Even a brief skim of something like his Wiki article reveals Scalzi comes from a somewhat privileged background

He was a scholarship boy at a private academy and his poverty was mostly relative. His real issue is that he was abandoned by his father and raised solely by his mother. He's got all the classic gamma issues: hates athletes and masculinity, puts women on pedestals, considers himself much more intelligent than he is, is passive-aggressive, runs from direct conflict, and lords it over everyone who is foolish enough to buy into his incessant self-promotion.

Anonymous NateM December 10, 2013 10:11 AM  

From the self reported count on the comments from Scalzi's thread, I count about 15k and change donated. So I guess he can refer to this later as Up To 46000 Donated

Anonymous VD December 10, 2013 10:15 AM  

except to the limited extent that “rhetoric” means “ability to spew bullshit.”

That's an interesting claim given the commenter who claimed I am very bad at bullshitting. Which is something I'm quite pleased to hear, actually. I should prefer to not be guilty of it at all.

McRapey's own rhetoric relies heavily upon what Aristotle described as "ambiguity". That's why he can't debate or even permit loose moderation. Dialectic is beyond him, and due to his rhetorical limitations, any half-intelligent opponent can leave him looking foolish within a few questions.

Anonymous buzzcut December 10, 2013 10:18 AM  

He and his followers will of course want to continue this charity work into next year, and far into the future, and expand it to all blogs that mention him. You know, because it was such a good idea.

Anonymous Heh December 10, 2013 10:23 AM  

He was a scholarship boy at a private academy and his poverty was mostly relative. His real issue is that he was abandoned by his father and raised solely by his mother. He's got all the classic gamma issues: hates athletes and masculinity, puts women on pedestals, considers himself much more intelligent than he is, is passive-aggressive, runs from direct conflict, and lords it over everyone who is foolish enough to buy into his incessant self-promotion.

This nails it so perfectly. I have seen this time and time again -- as no doubt have others here. And yet rarely will you see this described as a common if not inevitable result when a man abandons his son into the mother's sole care.

Anonymous Huckleberry - est. 1977 December 10, 2013 10:30 AM  

Look, I know @scalzi totally crushed his standardized tests and all, but his demonstrated befuddlement with basic arithmetic in the past leads me to believe he's short-changing the number.
I'm quite sure his appointed white knight tasked with tallying the count probably didn't get all of the references -- Hell, the SFWA expulsions chronicles @scalzi had to be mentioned by at least three different monikers.
I think he's trying to get out of paying up, despite his insistence to the contrary.

Blogger Joe A. December 10, 2013 10:30 AM  

Despite all of his posturing, McRapey is scared shitless of Vox. He wouldn't dare to directly discuss or confront Vox on ANYTHING. It's pathetic, honestly.

Anonymous The other skeptic December 10, 2013 10:44 AM  

I hope Dopey McRapey continues to waste money on these things.

Meanwhile, I got a book on learning Latin so I can read the Scholars Edition ...

Anonymous Daniel December 10, 2013 10:46 AM  

And all Tor's rapists said, "Ahem!"

Anonymous Mike B December 10, 2013 10:54 AM  

You are obviously in love with John Scalzi and you want to kiss him.

Anonymous Krul December 10, 2013 10:59 AM  

Mike B - You are obviously in love with John Scalzi and you want to kiss him.

I'm frankly shocked by such a homophobic remark. Why do you have gay people, Mike?

Anonymous Krul December 10, 2013 10:59 AM  

*Correction*

Why do you hate gay people, Mike?

Anonymous REG December 10, 2013 11:07 AM  

" we’ll still have donated at least $46,000 dollars to charities and organizations dedicated to fighting bigotry and/or sexual assault in its various forms. And that ain’t bad."

I don't have any figures to back me up; but, from what I have seen, most non-profit advocacy groups consist of friends and family, sitting around a table drinking coffee (?) and sending out an occasional letter to a few Congressmen and a lot of 'send me money- fund letters' to people on their mailing list. Scalzi should get a Christmas Card from the Postal Service, since, that's who will get the most benefit- besides friends and family.

Anonymous Lawnless Dudebro December 10, 2013 11:09 AM  

Nice lawn, bro.

Anonymous Rex Little December 10, 2013 11:16 AM  

I find it very hard to believe the count is only 145. Either his friend didn't count commenter mentions (his original proposal said those would be included), or he counted each thread just once no matter how many people mentioned Scalzi in the comments. Or he was just lazy.

Anonymous Josh December 10, 2013 11:17 AM  

I'm amazed at how these are falling all over themselves to pat each other on the back and sniff each other's farts for a donation that is I suspect less than many of the Christian ilk give to their church every Sunday.

I am reminded of what Jesus told us about how to give and how to pray.

Anonymous Josh December 10, 2013 11:18 AM  

You know, MRAL, I happen to find Voxie fun for trolling. The trick is to wait until he says something REALLY offensive, then spam his blog until he permabans you, then get another throwaway account and try again.

This might explain the increased trolling activity we've seen here.

Anonymous VD December 10, 2013 11:25 AM  

You are obviously in love with John Scalzi and you want to kiss him.

That would have been much funnier if you commented under the name "Joe Namath".

I know @scalzi totally crushed his standardized tests and all

He must have meant ~crushed, given that he's apparently neither Mensa nor National Merit.

He wouldn't dare to directly discuss or confront Vox on ANYTHING.

Of course not. Then he can't pretend to be smarter and better educated. BECAUSE BACHELOR'S DEGREE!

"That's a bold assertion, John. And what evidence do you have for that?"

"Well, Michael, I don't know if I've mentioned this before... (looks down and smiles smugly) But, you know, I do have a BA. From Chicago." (nods in a self-satisfied manner.)

Anonymous Rex Little December 10, 2013 11:25 AM  

I stand corrected. Just went over to Whatever and read the original pledge. It was $5 per post, with nothing mentioned about comments. So 145 is probably the right number.

Anonymous Stickwick December 10, 2013 11:27 AM  

Laura Resnick sez in the comments: I initially pledged $100 to the counteract-a-bigot drive.

Then I learned that Mr. Beale, for reasons best known to himself, was dragging =my= name through the sewage of his blog, too. (Why? I have no idea why. I never even knew of his existence until after he started doing it.) So I pledged an additional $100, since it seemed like I should double my counteracting-a-bigot efforts, on the basis of having become yet another of this particular bigot’s targets.


She really has no idea why?

Anonymous ZT December 10, 2013 11:30 AM  

I think you are giving up to soon. I mean think of the children. There is enough crazy left in the next 21 days that you can get his name in at least 22 more times. But you sir, are a quitter. You cannot even reach McReapy's low bar.

FAIL...

Anonymous Steveo December 10, 2013 11:37 AM  

For every "not mention" of Scalzi, I propose we don't give any credence whatsoever to the warrens' viewpoints or feelings. It can be our way of tolerating.

Any grammar issues... I'm right cause Bachelors. Is that like dibs? First come first serve?

Blogger LibertyPortraits December 10, 2013 11:40 AM  

In the ten years I've been reading this blog I have never seen anyone get into a dispute with Vox and come away without a bloody nose and a degree of respect lost. I have memories of Tom Woods recommending Gary North as a blog worth subscribing to and thought nothing much of it until Vox and North threw down over free trade, exposing North's ineptness. If Vox were left-wing he would be dismissing Scalzi as not worthy to talk to in the Dawkinsian fashion.

Speaking of which, I wonder what the differences are between VD's traffic and Pharyngula, which I notice is no longer linked on the target rich environments. I suppose if VD wanted to beat his chest and challenge an atheist to a debate they can no longer squirrel out of it by lying about VD's irrelevance. I'd like to see them squirm again, it's fascinating to see betas do everything possible to avoid submitting.

Blogger swiftfoxmark2 December 10, 2013 11:43 AM  

What is Ms. Scalzi's degree in?

I know that VD's was economics, which is more impressive to me than a business major, communications major, or any kind of literary or minority studies major.

There are degrees of impressiveness when it comes to college degrees. To treat them all equally is even more stupid than putting all women on a pedestal, although not by much.

Anonymous bob k. mando December 10, 2013 11:44 AM  

Krul December 10, 2013 10:59 AM
Why do you have gay people, Mike?



because Mike doesn't execute by suffocation in ash?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suffocation_in_ash
"Those who had engaged in the active role of homosexual anal intercourse were suffocated in a heap of ash. Their passive partners had their intestines pulled out, then their bodies were filled with ash, and finally, were burnt."




Stickwick December 10, 2013 11:27 AM
She really has no idea why?



female privilege. SHE is permitted to say and fantasize anything SHE wants, without consequences. because she's female and therefore definitionally incapable ( in the same way that blacks "can't be racist" ) of being sexist.

HE is to be excoriated for any trifling perceived violation of the PC code.

Anonymous Josh December 10, 2013 11:45 AM  

BECAUSE BACHELOR'S DEGREE!

He has, what, a freaking English degree? Who cares if it's from an overrated Midwest school with serious ivy envy. It's still a freaking English degree. The only fields less impressive are sociology and gender studies. And business/marketing.

Anonymous bob k. mando December 10, 2013 11:49 AM  

Josh December 10, 2013 11:45 AM
The only fields less impressive are sociology and gender studies. And business/marketing.



you forgot education / edu. admin majors.




ZT December 10, 2013 11:30 AM
But you sir, are a quitter.



worse than that.

by failing to provide the Warren with maximum incentive to demonstrate their superiority Vox is demonstrating his own sexism, gender bigotry, racism, oppression of the proletariat and homophobia.

Anonymous Josh December 10, 2013 11:55 AM  

you forgot education / edu. admin majors.

I did, shame on me.

Anonymous bob k. mando December 10, 2013 11:57 AM  

show respect for superlative skill:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08K_aEajzNA

i'm not sure how he's hooking the loads so fast, the pickup end of the flight might be more interesting than the delivery.

Anonymous jack December 10, 2013 12:16 PM  

This McRapey thing just keep giving. I may have to purchase one of his books just to thank him. Vox, of course, I have purchased many books.
If I do this; oh, which one? Something I might actually break down and read? Any thoughts Ilk? Something, unlikely as it may seem, might be somewhat enjoyable?

Anonymous Josh December 10, 2013 12:20 PM  

THIS GUY HATES CHARITY!

Vox, why do you hate charity?

Anonymous VD December 10, 2013 12:20 PM  

it's fascinating to see betas do everything possible to avoid submitting.

It is, isn't it? This is evidence of why you must get your boy children involved in competitive sports. They have to learn to not be afraid of losing.

Anonymous Harsh December 10, 2013 12:39 PM  

I'm ~impressed with Scalzi's victory.

Anonymous GreyS December 10, 2013 1:04 PM  

"It is, isn't it? This is evidence of why you must get your boy children involved in competitive sports. They have to learn to not be afraid of losing."

So very true. His mom likely had him avoid sports for the reason that he wasn't good enough at them to excel-- which is a poor reason. Boys not in sports run the risk of becoming girly in many not-initially-obvious ways. Just as boys being around only or mostly women affects boys in many ways which stay with him into adulthood.

Sports and being around men, teaches boys so much.

Anonymous GG December 10, 2013 1:05 PM  

"..because she's female and therefore definitionally incapable ( in the same way that blacks "can't be racist" ) of being sexist...."

No to put too fine of a point on it, but I'm pretty sure that dismemberment and cannibalism strain the definition of "sexism."

Also, by definition, only women with the correct politics/ideology can't be sexist. Step a tiny bit out of line and they'll happily stuff you in a puff pastry, too.

Anonymous Ferd December 10, 2013 1:15 PM  

"So: If you made a pledge to support the Counteract a Bigot fund drive earlier this year, "

In all of my time here on Mr. Day's Blog i have not noted one ounce of bigotry from him. Unless the definition has been changed, what the frick is he talking about?

I do suppose, as he is a proper lefty, he defines it in his own terms to meet his own view, however skewed, of the world.

I get so tired of these jerkos.

Anonymous bob k. mando December 10, 2013 1:15 PM  

GG December 10, 2013 1:05 PM
No to put too fine of a point on it, but I'm pretty sure that dismemberment and cannibalism strain the definition of "sexism."



she's dismembering and cannibalizing them because why?

it's the why that makes it sexist.

if you're having difficulty with this, flip the script. if i wrote an essay talking about how every time i hear a screeching feminist harpy like Gloria Steinem i fantasize about dismembering and cannibalizing her WHAT WOULD I BE CALLED?

i'm not stretching the meaning of the term in any way, i'm using it in exactly the same way the feminists use it.



GG December 10, 2013 1:05 PM
Also, by definition, only women with the correct politics/ideology can't be sexist.



true. but only because non-left wing women aren't really women. just as conservative blacks like Sowell aren't really black.

Blogger JCclimber December 10, 2013 1:36 PM  

$46k? Bah!
In two years my family donates more than that to charity.

Buncha cheapskates, these liberals. But then, science and facts have already told us that Liberals are much less generous than non-liberals.

Blogger cmate December 10, 2013 1:43 PM  

I have it on good authority that McRapey reminds 77% of divorced men of their ex-wives.

Anonymous TWS December 10, 2013 1:44 PM  

Vox hates transgendered black incest rape (rape, rape not Roman Polanski rape*) victims. Loser.

*I'm sure everybody agrees Polanski deserves an Oscar not pound you in the ass prison. He's just too talented.

Anonymous GG December 10, 2013 1:44 PM  

"i'm not stretching the meaning of the term in any way, i'm using it in exactly the same way the feminists use it."

Precisely and that's why it's wrong. It's a feminist definition and not a legal one. Feminists took the term sexism (which isn't a criminal act) and in their imagination, transformed it to encompass everything from rape to cannibalism, which ARE criminal acts. The end result is that now we have men falsely convinced that simply thinking improper thoughts makes them guilty of a criminal act, "sexism."

But my point was simply that carving somebody up and stuffing them in a puff pastry sure exceeds my definition of a civil offense. Cannibalism puts a whole new spin on a hostile work environment.

Anonymous Boetain December 10, 2013 1:45 PM  

"It is, isn't it? This is evidence of why you must get your boy children involved in competitive sports. They have to learn to not be afraid of losing."

And/or have them take a job in outside sales as a young man.

Anonymous Josh December 10, 2013 2:04 PM  

And/or have them take a job in outside sales as a young man.

Agreed

OpenID thetroll December 10, 2013 2:42 PM  

> In all of my time here on Mr. Day's Blog i have not noted one ounce of bigotry from him. Unless the definition has been changed, what the frick is he talking about?

Well, that's because you're using the antiquated irrelevant definition of bigotry, which was to hold a negative opinion based on your assumptions instead of evidence.

The Correct Proper Modern definition of "bigotry" is holding any negative opinion about a Designated Victim Group, OR holding any positive opinion about a Designated Oppressor Group.

If you express any actual evidence to support any position qualifying as either of these unacceptable badthinks, then it is no longer "bigotry". The Correct Proper Modern definition is then "hate". Because obviously no correctly thinking person would accept, or even debate, the truth of a proposition that is hateful, would they?

Anonymous VD December 10, 2013 2:54 PM  

That's not an exaggeration. Consider the following exchange with a Twittiot:

Twittiot: why are you so full of hate? It's ugly and really does America no good to spew hate as you do. If you think otherwise, educate me.

VD: Opposing economic and societal collapse is not hate. It is common sense and a survival instinct.

Twittiot: It becomes hate when blame is paced on a segment of society

Apparently we're just supposed to let everyone who feels like it burn society to the ground. Because to stand in their way would be HATE. And preventing them from destroying America does America no good. Right.

Anonymous Johnathan Knight December 10, 2013 2:59 PM  

I came across what I consider to be an interesting comment on Scalzi's blog, written by someone named Sarah M. It was in response to a comment by someone named Flood, but his or her comment was deleted before I got a chance to read it.

Anyway, Sarah's comment was:

"@flood: I for one don’t NEED this stunt to do the right thing. I have lots of other charity donations I make each year that have no associated gimmick or stunt. I am however deeply amused by this effort and the possibility, however remote, that this stunt leads to a RSHD gnashing his teeth in frustration at what he has unwittingly wrought has me chuckling all day. Well worth it to me to toss a little extra into the pot."

This expressed motivation seems strange, at least to me, and arguably petty. It doesn't occur to me that you, Vox, might be gnashing your teeth. In fact, unless I'm grossly mistaken, I'm figuring you don't care how other folks spend their own money, and the chance of you gnashing your teeth is nil. It is, after all, their money, and spending it how they see fit is their choice.

Of course, it's possible I'm mistaken and you're punching one monitor screen after another right now.

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JCclimber,

I had similar thoughts when I saw some of the small dollar amounts being donated, but I rethought. Rather than assuming they're cheap, it occurs to me that they might not have much money to give. And there's nothing really wrong with that. It makes me think of the Little Drummer Boy who had no gift to give. So he played his drum; he played it the best he could.

Now, in fairness, a thousand bucks does seem a little penny-ante in Scalzi's case, but still. I can't claim to know what his finances actually look like, and a thousand bucks might be hard for him to part with right now. Five acres don't come cheap, you know.

***

Ferd, you wrote:

"In all of my time here on Mr. Day's Blog i have not noted one ounce of bigotry from him. Unless the definition has been changed, what the frick is he talking about?"

I agree. I'm not seeing the bigotry either. I get the feeling that some folks are only reading half of what's being written and jumping to conclusions from there. Or, more likely, rather than reading the stuff here, folks are listening to third-hand accounts and buying into those skewed versions.

Anonymous David of One December 10, 2013 3:02 PM  

Hmmm....

Bigot, hate, bully, bullying, troll, dipshit, victim, rape, narrative(?) ... the old standby ... mean ... all very popular rabbit words. I suppose there's a long list of rabbit words even before we get to rabbit phrases like "World View", "war on women" ... "change is good".

Looking at a short list almost hurts.

Anonymous kh123 December 10, 2013 3:05 PM  

"She really has no idea why?"

I see she's taken the Ted Bundy line of defense; "It's not against the law to be in Colorado."

Anonymous VD December 10, 2013 3:08 PM  

It doesn't occur to me that you, Vox, might be gnashing your teeth. In fact, unless I'm grossly mistaken, I'm figuring you don't care how other folks spend their own money, and the chance of you gnashing your teeth is nil. It is, after all, their money, and spending it how they see fit is their choice.

I'm not in the slightest. Let them throw their money away on idiot "charities". Scalzi put a limit on his own donations just because I would have written about him 10x every day if he hadn't.

I'm very amused that a bunch of lefties are literally throwing away nearly $50k just to try to impress me. Let's see them throw away an additional $50k and prove how specially special they are!

Anonymous VD December 10, 2013 3:13 PM  

I'm not seeing the bigotry either.

They assume you have to hate black people to observe that black people, in large numbers, tend to destroy their environments. Or to observe that Africans have only been in contact with advanced civilization for 500 years.

Hate facts means bigotry. QED.

Look, these people are idiots. Scalzi actually thinks he wins arguments by saying "I haz a BA" and that saying "up to" means you can magically make any claim and it is totally legitimate. Try to imagine Scalzi keeping up with Nate and me on money or Dante and me on the gods debate.

There is nothing, anywhere on his blog, to indicate he could do it. He can't even cite the Dunning-Kruger Effect properly.

Anonymous Heh December 10, 2013 3:50 PM  

a thousand bucks does seem a little penny-ante in Scalzi's case, but still. I can't claim to know what his finances actually look like,

McRapey often boasts that his income consistently exceeds $100,000 a year.

But given the looseness of his counting methods, who knows what that means.

In any event, taking that at face value, $1,000 is indeed penny ante.

OpenID thetroll December 10, 2013 3:50 PM  

> This expressed motivation seems strange, at least to me, and arguably petty.

> I'm very amused that a bunch of lefties are literally throwing away nearly $50k just to try to impress me.

You both are failing to understand the true leftie dynamic on display here. None of them give a damn what Vox thinks or does in real life. Vox has taken his place as a totem of badthink around which the tribe dances to conspicuously display their Rejection Of All Things Evil and therefore their Deserving Of Approval By The Tribe.

That Vox happens to be an actual person makes not one iota of difference to the dynamic being the same as when actual tribes do actual dances around actual totems to demonstrate their goodthinking group solidarity. Indeed, I'd bet that real tribespeople probably attribute more humanity to their wooden totems than the rabbits attribute to Vox in their thoughts.

So no, to them these motivations are not strange or petty. And when we disconnect our observations from reality and consequences and place them into the totemic feelings-ruled worldview of the leftie, we should not find them strange or petty either. These are simply people who hold the worldview appropriate to someone who cannot survive without the constant support of a group. And groups are defined by whom they oppose. It's perfectly possible to have a powerful religion with no god, but it is impossible to have one without a devil. Vox is here fulfilling their existence by standing in for a devil in this round of Tribe Solidarity Demonstration. No more; no less.

Anonymous Huckleberry - est. 1977 December 10, 2013 4:17 PM  

In any event, taking that at face value, $1,000 is indeed penny ante

Hey now.
A lot of Redshirts had to die and/or offer countless blowjobs to the guys in Ground Forces for medium-sized favors to raise that $1,000.
Dismiss that sacrifice at your own peril...

Anonymous Ferd December 10, 2013 4:45 PM  

" Vox has taken his place as a totem of badthink around which the tribe dances to conspicuously display their Rejection Of All Things Evil and therefore their Deserving Of Approval By The Tribe."

I do love that image and it is so appropriate! However, it is an apparent loss that Scalzi and his ilk have just flushed down their 1000 years of civilizing. Perhaps their descendants will come to the realization that McRapey's is a dead end.

Anonymous Scintan December 10, 2013 6:11 PM  

aura Resnick sez in the comments: I initially pledged $100 to the counteract-a-bigot drive.

Then I learned that Mr. Beale, for reasons best known to himself, was dragging =my= name through the sewage of his blog, too. (Why? I have no idea why. I never even knew of his existence until after he started doing it.) So I pledged an additional $100, since it seemed like I should double my counteracting-a-bigot efforts, on the basis of having become yet another of this particular bigot’s targets.


So Laura Resnick is apparently either a liar or an amnesiac. That shocks me not at all.

Anonymous Scintan December 10, 2013 6:16 PM  

One of my very favorite ironies to watch is the incredible intolerance of the pro-tolerance crowd. About two weeks prior to Thanksgiving, I had one literally speechless with anger just because I noted that she was being intolerant to those of a different background and viewpoint over the fact that someone opposed gay marriage and equal rights.

The tiny, but evident, smirks of the onlookers were priceless.

Anonymous James December 10, 2013 6:27 PM  

"Even a brief skim of something like his Wiki article reveals Scalzi comes from a somewhat privileged background"

I think he did grow up in a poor household, but he seems to have been exceptionally lucky for someone in his circumstances. He pulled a 2.x GPA and still attended some private prep school and the University of Chicago. Both on scholarships, of course, but that doesn't matter once you've got the degree.

Blogger Nate December 10, 2013 7:17 PM  

"McRapey often boasts that his income consistently exceeds $100,000 a year."

...

One wonders how horrified he would be if realized how many ilk make that by March.

Blogger Nate December 10, 2013 7:18 PM  

well... ok... the end of march.

Don't want to upset Porky..

Anonymous JC December 10, 2013 7:20 PM  

Everything is falling into place.

Anonymous daddynichol December 10, 2013 7:25 PM  

Now, in fairness, a thousand bucks does seem a little penny-ante in Scalzi's case, but still. I can't claim to know what his finances actually look like, and a thousand bucks might be hard for him to part with right now. Five acres don't come cheap, you know.

Those damned zero turn mowers are a bit pricey and he can't get his dog to eat grass. Smoke it, maybe, but not eat it.

Anonymous Beau December 10, 2013 9:03 PM  

OT

Hello Ilk, back with Tuesday night prayer from Roswell. We do continue (as best we remember) previous weeks' requests. Lord, we lift up Pastor Saeed Abedino. Release him Lord. Let revival begin in Iran. Father, we also lift up the folks in the Philippines and from surrounding Fukishima.

Anonymous Jesus H. Christ December 10, 2013 9:08 PM  

Beau; Beware of practicing your righteousness before other people in order to be seen by them, for then you will have no reward from your Father who is in heaven.

Anonymous Beau December 10, 2013 9:19 PM  

A message from a false Christ. Goody. Ignore. Continue soliciting prayer requests.

Anonymous Matthaios December 10, 2013 9:31 PM  

No, Jesus really said that. Trust me.

Anonymous Beau December 10, 2013 9:39 PM  

No, Jesus really said that.

Yes, he did.

He also said, "You are the light of the world," and "a city set on a hill cannot be hidden." Now, why should any Christian listen to a voice seeking to discourage a call for believers to pray? Because scripture? Even the devil could quote scripture. So, here it is, a call for believers to prayer, to submit their petitions before God.

Anonymous bob k. mando December 10, 2013 10:09 PM  

GG December 10, 2013 1:44 PM
Feminists took the term sexism (which isn't a criminal act) and in their imagination, transformed it to encompass everything from rape to cannibalism, which ARE criminal acts.



now you're being ridiculous.

there is NO magnitude limit on "-ism"s. "-ism"'s are a valence, a direction not a vector.

Hitler. he wasn't racist. he murdered 6 meelion Jews, for being Jewish. that's BEYOND racism. durr hurrr.


as for Laura, all she's done is demonstrate that she's just as feral as NK Jemisin. perhaps more so.




James December 10, 2013 6:27 PM
He pulled a 2.x GPA ... Both on scholarships,



how the hell do you get scholarships with a < 3.0 average? that's a lot of dick sucking, right there.


Scintan December 10, 2013 6:16 PM
One of my very favorite ironies to watch is the incredible intolerance of the pro-tolerance crowd.


also, it's amusing how blitheringly oblivious they are to their own actual behaviors ... which transgress their own 'morals'.

feast your eyes on the tales of the first black writer and editor at a major comic company:
http://digitalpriest.com/legacy/comics/chips.html

Anonymous Beau December 10, 2013 10:09 PM  

Abba, Father you are marvelous, holy and pure. Thank you for giving your son, Jesus, to bear our sin away and draw us to you. Thank you for the ministry of reconciliation. Lift our eyes to you in the midst of busy. Feed and nourish us on your word. Comfort us with holy fellowship. Teach us to walk in your victory provided by the blood of the Lamb. Bring us through many trials and tribulations to the fullness of the image of the likeness of Christ. Guard us from our ancient enemy. Let us grow wise in the wisdom of heaven, rejecting the wisdom that is earthy and sensual. May we with hearts ablaze turn many back to the obedience of faith. Bring us home Father, in Jesus' precious name. Amen.

Anonymous bob k. mando December 10, 2013 10:14 PM  

Matthaios December 10, 2013 9:31 PM
Trust me.



that's something very like what Lucifer said to Eve and to Christ and to the Father Himself.

why do you feel the need to make a positive assertion that we should have faith in your integrity, Matthaios? can you not make your case on the text of the Bible IN CONTEXT?

Anonymous Porky December 10, 2013 10:15 PM  

Thank you Beau.

Anonymous tiredofitall December 10, 2013 11:28 PM  

"As for Mr. Beale, well. He’s Dunning-Kruger’s favorite son. As such he’s incapable of imagining himself in anything other than a victory condition, so I’m sure he’ll imagine one here, too. Let him. The rest of us know better." - Rapey McRaperson

Good lord, the gamma strong in this one.

Dismissing his intellectual betters, projecting his own flaws onto others, and finishing it up with a little pandering to the warren.

McRapey did everything but stomp off in a huff like a petulant child. Hurry Johnny boy, there's still time to "re-tell" a sci-fi great's work before this year is done.

Anonymous Joe Author December 11, 2013 12:16 AM  

"They assume you have to hate black people to observe that black people, in large numbers, tend to destroy their environments."

Actually, the number of environments that white people destroyed clearly outnumbers that by their black brethren--a history of slaughter, carnage, brutality, torture, greed, lies, trickery, and broken promises used to exterminate, from the Roman Empire to the British Empire to the American Empire. It is almost beyond surreal, their sophisticated savagery.

See how easy it is to make grandiose statements?


"Or to observe that Africans have only been in contact with advanced civilization for 500 years."

Right, because ancient Egyptians could not script textbooks about math that included geometric formulas and algebraic equations; people from present-day Zaire never developed their own numeration system that facilitated abstract reasoning; the Dogon people of Mali failed to record detailed astronomical observations, etc.

Anonymous lozozlo December 11, 2013 12:34 AM  

@Beau

Thanks for remembering my prayer requests from last time!

Besides those - I add the persecuted church in general, and that maybe people can remember Christmas for the actual Reason and that it is *not* about buying stuff and accumulating bernanke bucks!

Anonymous lozozlo December 11, 2013 12:36 AM  

@Beau

One last note: the Pastor's name is Saeed Abedini, not Abedino - but of course God knows who you were talking about so the error is inconsequential.

Also - I recall Porky mentioning another Saeed in a similar situation in Iran...

Anonymous J December 11, 2013 12:41 AM  

One wonders how horrified he would be if realized how many ilk make that by March.

I hope nobody here would be surprised to learn how FEW full-time professional fiction authors do that well -- and therefore, if it is true, it is a legitimate ground for pride.

Blogger Beau December 11, 2013 12:42 AM  

the Pastor's name is Saeed Abedini, not Abedino

Thanks for pointing that out, and yes, thank God he understands us.

Anonymous kh123 December 11, 2013 1:51 AM  

"See how easy it is to make grandiose statements?"

So, you're saying that white savagery is militarily, technologically, and politically advanced, whereas African science is primitive. Did I read that correctly.

Anonymous VD December 11, 2013 2:15 AM  

See how easy it is to make grandiose statements?

How did that make your point? White people are incredibly ruthless. VHD has written several books on the Western way of war. It's not an accident that Europeans invented total war.

And none of the African civilizations you mention were advanced civilizations in the modern sense. Moreover, the Egyptian civilization was in Africa, but it wasn't a black one.

Anonymous TWS December 11, 2013 10:27 AM  

Cleopatra wasn't black? Next you'll be telling me the South African space program was... oh wait. Sorry.

Anonymous GG December 11, 2013 11:06 AM  

"..now you're being ridiculous.there is NO magnitude limit on "-ism"s. "-ism"'s are a valence, a direction not a vector..."

Apologies bob k mando, I was not trying to be ridiculous. I just think it's very important not to let the fems, the media, define the terminology because their hysteria quickly becomes perceived as a valid legal definition. "Legal" means now it is backed up by the power of the state.

An example, in Colorado a six yr old boy has been suspended from school for sexual harassment. Ridiculous, but even more ridiculous and based on complete legal lies, was the school district's attempt to label him a sex offender. Sexual harassment is not a criminal offense, it's a civil violation. People no longer know that because the fems, the media, have taken over the narrative and the definitions. A six year old boy kissing a girl's hand is now viewed as the the exact same thing as a rapist who engages in cannibalism.

So you see, my objection was actually one of horror at the consequences of such a thing, not a criticism of your comment.

Anonymous bob k. mando December 11, 2013 1:00 PM  

GG December 11, 2013 11:06 AM
So you see, my objection was actually one of horror at the consequences of such a thing, not a criticism of your comment.



well, the only answer to this is to NOT allow women that you see doing this, to do it without calling them out.

Laura Resnick IS sexist and she IS feral by her own words. let her suck on that. don't back off of asserting what she is because she might be offended by the 'term'. it applies.

maybe if she donates a meelion dollahs to her local pro-homo org they will issue her an indulgence for being a feral sexist?

Anonymous lozozlo December 11, 2013 2:54 PM  

BTW Pastor Saeed's wife is testifying before Congress tomorrow.

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