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Thursday, December 05, 2013

And now it gets interesting

Nelson Mandela is dead at 95. It should be interesting to see how long his vision of a post-racial South Africa will survive him or if the Kill-the-Boer crowd will consider itself unleashed.

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Blogger Tom Kratman December 05, 2013 5:49 PM  

Hmmm...I wasn't aware that the Kill-the-Boer crowd had ever been leashed.

Anonymous shibes meadow December 05, 2013 6:08 PM  

I hope he makes it to heaven.

That being said: Thanks to him, South Africa and many other places have become hell.

Prediction 1: Knockout Game craze
Prediction 2: Pope Francis names him first non-Catholic saint.

Anonymous Doubter December 05, 2013 6:11 PM  

So, are you admitting that his commitment to peace and reconciliation made a difference while he was alive? Maybe you're growing as a person!

Anonymous VD December 05, 2013 6:18 PM  

So, are you admitting that his commitment to peace and reconciliation made a difference while he was alive?

Admitting? I've always been open to the possibility. We will find out in the next year or three whether it did or not. I happen think the Boers were insane to trust his commitment even assuming it was genuine, (and I think he showed it was), for the obvious reason that others may not share it.

Good intentions and all that.

Blogger Tom Kratman December 05, 2013 6:19 PM  

Does it make much of a difference if he _did_ make a difference to peace and reconciliation, when alive, if the difference is collected on with usurious interest once he's dead?

I can't criticize him too much, actually. Terrorist? Well, sure, but I don't have a _necessary_ problem with that. And, in his shoes, I don't have a particularly hard time seeing myself fighting the Boers, too, with whatever tools were available. But that doesn't mean that the population of South Africa, of _all_ colors, isn't worse off and about get get worse off still.

Anonymous Concerned Rabbit Hunter December 05, 2013 6:21 PM  

With the cops being inventive, who know what will happen next:

http://dailycaller.com/2013/12/05/cops-shoot-bystanders-charge-unarmed-man-with-shootings/

Blogger Mr. Nightstick December 05, 2013 6:22 PM  

Unless the formerly western powers get involved, I would put my money on the Boers.

Blogger JACIII December 05, 2013 6:24 PM  

Kleinfontein may have the savages a bit worried. I can see the headlines now:

"3000 blacks massacred outside gates of all white South African community!"

They'll leave out the part where the mob was trying to get in to rape, steal, and murder everyone.

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Anonymous Nathanael December 05, 2013 6:30 PM  

South Africa is still running on a lot of residue first world infrastructure; both physical and cultural. Expect things to continue to get worse as the infrastructure continues to degrade and dissipate.

"Unless the formerly western powers get involved, I would put my money on the Boers."

Remember Kosovo? The former western powers always get involved on the wrong side.

Blogger Rantor December 05, 2013 6:41 PM  

With over 10% of the Boers having left or been killed and slowly losing their farms to socialist party policy... The future of South Africa probably looks like Zimbabwe. At this point only western investment keeps the place going.

While the press blabbers on about him, let us remember that he was pro abortion, convicted of participating in violent terrorist acts, a socialist (fortunately unsettled by the fall of the Soviet Union and thus without a desire to nationalize everything when he became president). His first wife dumped him because of his adultery. I am sure we could go on. Unlike the happy clappy news casters, I have little hope that he is in a "better place." At times in his life he claimed to be Christian but I have seen little evidence

Blogger Bob Wallace December 05, 2013 6:44 PM  

"So, are you admitting that his commitment to peace and reconciliation made a difference while he was alive? Maybe you're growing as a person!"

My money is on the Boers. I knew a mercenary who fought on the Ian Smith side in the former Rhodesia...he said fighting his opponents was like a turkey shoot.

Blogger Baloo December 05, 2013 6:55 PM  

Best tribute so far:
Mandela Day in Japan

Blogger CubuCoko December 05, 2013 6:57 PM  

But as Nathanael said, "remember Kosovo." If Ilana Mercer's descriptions from "Into the Cannibal's Pot" are anywhere close to accurate, we may yet see the "interest" Tom mentioned coming up for collection very soon...

Anonymous Rantor December 05, 2013 6:59 PM  

@Bob, The Boer rise again? Not. Because, Demographics. Less than 9% of the population...

Anonymous VD December 05, 2013 7:09 PM  

While the press blabbers on about him, let us remember that he was pro abortion, convicted of participating in violent terrorist acts

I think you can excuse an old man for the violence committed in his youth during a revolution. Mandela had every opportunity to turn into Mugabe. He did not, and in my opinion, he fully lived up to the ideals he expressed upon his release from prison. I had my doubts at the time too, but how can anyone question that he did not release the hounds when he was in power.

That being said, I fully expect some sort of civil war there now that he is gone and men like Zuma and Malema remain. They do not appear to share Mandela's desire for peace and any ability he had to restrain them is now gone.

Anonymous Loki Sjalfsainn December 05, 2013 7:12 PM  

Prediction 2: Pope Francis names him first non-Catholic saint.

That would depend on whether angels are technically Catholic.

Anonymous Musashi December 05, 2013 7:17 PM  

"Open war is upon you whether you would risk it or not"

Anonymous Stg58/Animal Mother December 05, 2013 7:39 PM  

Vox,

Mandela was a communist. One article with some interesting links and a video of Mandela after his release singing about killing whites, and two pictures:

PJ Media article about Mandela

Mandela, Winnie and Joe Slovo, the White Lithuanian Communist leader of the ANC giving the Communist Salute in front of the Communist flag

Mandela again giving the Communist salute on the cover of the South African Communist

Anonymous VD December 05, 2013 7:47 PM  

Mandela was a communist.

So was Gorbachev. Both men surmounted their evil ideology in an attempt to do the right thing. You have to look at what the men did, and what they chose not to do, in order to judge them fairly. Simply pointing and shrieking "communist" is behavior worthy of the SFWA.

Anonymous Josh December 05, 2013 7:50 PM  

Mandela was the black MLK

Blogger Eric Wilson December 05, 2013 7:57 PM  

This makes me wonder if we know how the French Revolution turned out after all.

Anonymous paradox December 05, 2013 8:00 PM  

"Saint" Mandela? Not So Fast!

Anonymous dh December 05, 2013 8:08 PM  

Mandela had every opportunity to turn into Mugabe. He did not, and in my opinion, he fully lived up to the ideals he expressed upon his release from prison. I had my doubts at the time too, but how can anyone question that he did not release the hounds when he was in power.

This is an interesting metric. I often wonder what FDR would have unleased on the world following WWII if he had hung to power and life. After 4 terms, I often wonder if he would have denationalized the economy when the remaining axis went down to defeat. There is little doubt he could have maintained the fascist corporate-government partnership and kept the country under his mantle if he found another enemy to shift to immediately after the war.

For Mandela, it is a testament to the power of individuals to overcome ideology and corruption.

It's also an interesting question. Assuming that not all races are not equal, what is a member of a race that is not fully civilized to do when they gain independence or self-determination? What is a leader of such a people to do?

Anonymous Josh December 05, 2013 8:08 PM  

It certainly won't be a boering time for SA whites.

Blogger mmaier2112 December 05, 2013 8:10 PM  

I so need to buy more mags and ammo...

Blogger Rantor December 05, 2013 8:17 PM  

Agree that Mandela wasn't Mugabe but neither is he a saint. Perhaps he is the guy who kept the Boer alive. His passing could be the worst thing to happen to SA yet. What will hold back the ANC now?

Blogger Eric Wilson December 05, 2013 8:18 PM  

It certainly won't be a boering time for SA whites.

But it might be time to get on a Boeing.

Blogger Eric Wilson December 05, 2013 8:23 PM  

if he found another enemy to shift to immediately after the war.

I'm not well-versed on FDR's stance on Communism, but I'll bet someone could write an interesting book on him being a Marxist and the subsequent fallout of the USSR and USA.

Anonymous Josh December 05, 2013 8:24 PM  

After 4 terms, I often wonder if he would have denationalized the economy when the remaining axis went down to defeat. There is little doubt he could have maintained the fascist corporate-government partnership and kept the country under his mantle if he found another enemy to shift to immediately after the war.

Just tell Patton to keep going east after they reach Berlin.

Anonymous Godfrey December 05, 2013 8:27 PM  

Mandela wasn't perfect, but I don't think he was a hater like O-bomb-a or Holder.

Anonymous E. PERLINE December 05, 2013 8:30 PM  

The Boers were not too smart. When they saw the direction world opinion was taking they should have abolished aparthied and become sympathetic. This would have allowed blacks to raise their hope and improve their status.

Instead, they met the situation head on and lost it all. The Boers were not too smart.

Anonymous dh December 05, 2013 8:42 PM  

It's sort of surprising that a lot of folks here were not on the Boers side.

Anonymous African Spectator December 05, 2013 8:43 PM  

or if the Kill-the-Boer crowd will consider itself unleashed.

But the have not found their machine gun yet.

Mandela wasn't perfect, but I don't think he was a hater like O-bomb-a or Holder.

Oh and Holder are complete ass clowns. Mandela was exceptional. Highly educated by going to law school. This was pre-affirmative action. He was also basically a cultured African aristocrat, being a descendent of Ngubengcuka, the king of the Thembu people, and was a privy counselor to the royal house when he was young.

In other words, he was exception to usual Africans, and don't expect one man like that to hold everything up forever.

For instance he lived to 95, and was thin and healthy up to about a year ago. What is the life expectancy in South Africa, and the rest of Africa as a whole? Much lower. He had damn good genes.

Anonymous Josh December 05, 2013 8:46 PM  

It's sort of surprising that a lot of folks here were not on the Boers side.

Really? I would think a majority here would be on their side.

Blogger mmaier2112 December 05, 2013 8:47 PM  

I pray for any whites still in South Africa. God bless your very lives.

Because Mandela's folks.... I doubt they will.

Anonymous cecilhenry December 05, 2013 8:48 PM  

The legacy of Nelson Mandela and the real lesson here:

AFRICA FOR THE AFRICANS, ASIA FOR THE ASIANS, WHITE COUNTRIES FOR EVERYBODY??..

It doesn't matter what economic or political theory a brown country says it believes in, a brown country will be a tyranny and it will live in poverty the minute there are not enough white countries and white people to pull it out.

The Big Lie is that SKIN COLOR does not matter.

Meanwhile, back on earth, where do the non-whites go?
To white-SKINNED countries.
Not to IQ countries.
Not to Culturally Aware countries.
Not to religiously correct countries--and certainly NOT to 'diversity'.
On the real planet earth, the non-whites are ALWAYS swimming towards WHITE SKIN.

Anonymous frenchy December 05, 2013 9:05 PM  

@ E Perline,

"The Boers were not too smart. When they saw the direction world opinion was taking they should have abolished aparthied and become sympathetic. This would have allowed blacks to raise their hope and improve their status.

Instead, they met the situation head on and lost it all. The Boers were not too smart."

I disagree. They saw the writing on the wall.

Now. . .imagine the ANC with nukes.

Anonymous YIH December 05, 2013 9:30 PM  

My Grandmother (White, if you were curious) made it to 97. Not impressed, if it weren't for the the White stragglers that didn't leave SA (be glad I'm a US citizen, Ilana Mercer, that means I will let punishment to be decided by GOD.
As your book said your Father SHIT all over South Africa.
She taught me about so-called ''anti-semitism''.

Anonymous RINO December 05, 2013 9:51 PM  

Mandela's legacy:

http://www.saveyourheritage.com/images/How_ANC_Brought_Crime_to_South_Africa_4.gif

Anonymous zen0 December 05, 2013 9:57 PM  

@ Nathanael

Remember Kosovo? The former western powers always get involved on the wrong side.

The American public has had enough. It wasn't Putin that stopped the intervention in Syria. It was the amount of outrage spontaneously being emailed to Washington D.C.

I am pretty sure it happened in Canada as well. Fool me once, twice or three times, but do not go for four!

Anonymous zen0 December 05, 2013 10:01 PM  

@ dh

It's sort of surprising that a lot of folks here were not on the Boers side.

Do you actually read this blog?

I think you just like to hear yourself talk.

Oh, right! Progressive.

Anonymous dh December 05, 2013 10:11 PM  

Really? I would think a majority here would be on their side.

That's what I meant. I would not expect the same level of sympathy for the MK/AKC as the whites as at liberal blogs. But this thread and VD has shown a lot of support for them. It's surprising.

Anonymous zen0 December 05, 2013 10:13 PM  

Eric Wilson December 05, 2013 8:23 PM

if he found another enemy to shift to immediately after the war.

I'm not well-versed on FDR's stance on Communism, but I'll bet someone could write an interesting book on him being a Marxist and the subsequent fallout of the USSR and USA.


Look for a DVD documentary called "Churchill's Bodyguard"

FDR was Stalin's poodle. FDR had a man crush on Stalin.
And He was old and sick and delusional when he helped create to conditions for the Cold War.

Churchill should have shot him with the colt 45 he always carried.

Anonymous Anonymous December 05, 2013 10:42 PM  

"Mandela had every opportunity to turn into Mugabe."

He was too old already and wasn't in power long enough. It took Mugabe more than 10 years to turn into Mugabe. In the beginning he was also hailed as a conciliator and a visionary statesman.

Robard

Anonymous bob k. mando December 05, 2013 10:46 PM  

yeah, i hope VryeDenker is doing okay.

Anonymous Godfrey December 05, 2013 11:02 PM  

@E. PERLINE December 05, 2013 8:30 PM
"Instead, they met the situation head on and lost it all. The Boers were not too smart."


They didn't have much chance whatever they did. Their best option may have been to ally with the Zulu.

Anonymous Unfrank December 05, 2013 11:09 PM  

OT: Alpha or Not Alpha?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPUvUYU7Qzw

OpenID mattse001 December 05, 2013 11:11 PM  

Regardless of whether Mandela was a sinner or saint, he didn't leave enough of a structure behind, instead holding it together with a cult of personality. Whatever his personal feelings, being a Communist is a tacit endorsement of that poisonous ideology, and the ambitious around him will now take advantage of the situation.
Whatever the Boers do is irrelevant...they are 9% of the population, and can be "cleaned up" at any time.
I expect serious factional fighting, possibly civil war, among the black factions as they vie for dominance.

Anonymous zen0 December 05, 2013 11:17 PM  

I expect serious factional fighting, possibly civil war, among the black factions as they vie for dominance

ah yes, the preferred solution of the British.

"As long as the fuzzie-wuzzies are having at each other, we be ok!"

works for me.

Anonymous zen0 December 05, 2013 11:20 PM  

That's what I meant.

Sure it is, snake boy.

I got my eye on you, and I am not the only one.

And stop picking on Josh.
He is so naive.

Anonymous dh December 06, 2013 12:05 AM  

zeno I have no idea what you are talking about...

Blogger Doom December 06, 2013 12:48 AM  

I'm hoping the Boer's re-establish apartheid. I'm not sure there are enough of them left, I think they have decided that we are all equal and so can get along so might not have the will left, and... and I think the U.N. would hold them down with promises until they were pretty much dead, or even help in the genocide, on the sly, though. Africa is tricky business and the U.N. is everything Obama would want.

Anonymous AlteredFate December 06, 2013 1:35 AM  

It's also an interesting question. Assuming that not all races are not equal, what is a member of a race that is not fully civilized to do when they gain independence or self-determination? What is a leader of such a people to do?

The only way to rule such a people is with an authoritarian form of government. Isn't thos what it comes down to? A republic is not the way to rule the uncivilized, democracy is not how you govern a racially and ethnically deverse nation, and authoritarian forms of rule are not tolerated by the civilized. I believe this explains Mandelas luke warm relationship with communism (what other workable choice?), and the current state of the US (a sheep and two wolves).

On a side note, I predict it won't be long before every city in 'murica has a Mandela Blvd.

Anonymous Gen. Kong December 06, 2013 1:36 AM  

There was never any good intention - for the only intention was genocide. Once a communist, always a communist. The Boers should have done the right thing and sent him and his cohorts to their eternal rewards on Robyn Island, but they were cowards.

Eternal death to the Satanic Spawn Mandela and to all of his worshippers.

Anonymous Jack Amok December 06, 2013 1:50 AM  

Remember Kosovo? The former western powers always get involved...

Not if they're broke and/or too busy shooting, or trying not to shoot, each other. The time may be at hand when the former western powers aren't in any position to get involved in anything outside of their own calamities for a while.

China may find itself in the same boat soon too.

I think there will be lots of score-settling in the next 30 years.

Anonymous Alexander December 06, 2013 1:57 AM  

AlteredFate,

There's a silver lining there: there are many roads that simply aren't safe to live on, and they can't *all* be MLK blvd.

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Blogger Some dude December 06, 2013 2:00 AM  

good article on the state of s.a.

Blogger Some dude December 06, 2013 2:16 AM  

They need to rebuild their nuclear program and retake their country. That means long term thinking in allowing Zuma or some other strain of human Ebola access to nukes before they retake it. Once they take back the country, all the parasites of the world will see an opportunity to destroy them. Without nukes they will be finished, and unless they have become evil, no one is going to give them the time to build them. Which is why they can only rebuild their nuke program under an evil genocidal regime.

That will naturally be very dangerous, and it is something they will need to show a lot of patience and cleverness to pull off. The one thing they have in their favor is that the world may soon be too broke to bother with them. But anything short of that, then the world will use them as another Libyan distraction.

Blogger Eric December 06, 2013 2:58 AM  

My money is on the Boers. I knew a mercenary who fought on the Ian Smith side in the former Rhodesia...he said fighting his opponents was like a turkey shoot.

I doubt it. There simply aren't enough of them. My prediction is things continue to slide slowly into anarchy as they did in Zimbabwe, and when the last of the institutions left by the white rulers collapses in decay whoever's in charge will blame the whites and take everything they have (possibly including their lives). Just like Zimbabwe.

Anonymous VD December 06, 2013 3:36 AM  

It's sort of surprising that a lot of folks here were not on the Boers side.

I was and am on the Boers side. I think they made a terrible mistake to gamble on Mandela and his vision. But that doesn't change the fact that Mandela did his admirable best to prevent the racial conflict that appears much more likely now.

Anonymous Titus Didius Tacitus December 06, 2013 4:17 AM  

Eric: "My prediction is things continue to slide slowly into anarchy as they did in Zimbabwe, and when the last of the institutions left by the white rulers collapses in decay whoever's in charge will blame the whites and take everything they have (possibly including their lives). Just like Zimbabwe."

That's my best guess too.

Meanwhile every white American child today is a member of an ethnic minority under a system of mass non-white mass immigration and forced assimilation that amounts to white genocide. And anti-whites are pushing similar systems for every white country.

We are all, every white, on the road that leads through America, South Africa and Zimbabwe to the fate of the whites in liberated Haiti, that is genocide. Traitors don't object to this and do have it coming; decent people do object to this and don't have it coming, but this is the fate of us all, our entire race, unless we change the course of history.

Anonymous FrankNorman December 06, 2013 5:51 AM  

Hi people
I've just gotten back from a flag-lowering ceremony on behalf of Mandela. Very solemn, with wreaths being laid at the flagpoles, and some speeches. And the national anthem being sung.

Anonymous FrankNorman December 06, 2013 6:28 AM  

Well, I've just had one heated discussion with a couple of black co-workers who were asking wistfully whether they'd have been better off now if South Africa had gone into civil war in the 1990's.

Anonymous African Spectator December 06, 2013 7:27 AM  

My Grandmother (White, if you were curious) made it to 97. Not impressed, if it weren't for the the White stragglers that didn't leave SA

Woah, cool story, geriatric bro.

Unfortunately for you, the life expectancy is different for Africans and whites due to genetic differences, the life expectancy in South Africa is still only about 53 years, and I write for me, not for you.

Anonymous Stilicho December 06, 2013 7:43 AM  

So what if Mandela wasn't as bad as he could have been? That's hardly a basis for praise. Mandela understood that he had to keep a modicum of control and keep the mines working in order to keep the western support and money flowing.

Anonymous Stg58/Animal Mother December 06, 2013 7:56 AM  

Vox, how did Mandela do his admirable best to stop racial violence? Fomenting racial violence is one of the Communists most cherished tools. If he was doing his best to stop racial violence, why is he in the video at the link I posted singing about killing Boers? You know Boers are white?

I am really disappointed that you of all people are buying into the Mandela worship.

Anonymous jasmer December 06, 2013 7:59 AM  

Godfrey said, "Mandela wasn't perfect, but I don't think he was a hater like O-bomb-a or Holder."

Neither Obama nor Holder have sung cheery songs about genocide of the white race. That we know of.

Anonymous Stg58/Animal Mother December 06, 2013 8:24 AM  

Mandela was also the leader of MK (umKhonto sizhwe) the terrorist wing of the ANC. When he was sent to jail for multiple terrorist attacks and murders, Joe Slovo, a white Lithuanian Communist and KGB agent, took over MK.

Even if he didn't do any of it, Vox's ckaim that he fought for racial violence doesn't square with the song he us singing in the video.

Anonymous fnn December 06, 2013 8:35 AM  

Crackpot neo-Bolshevism ("cultural marxism" +Holocaustianity) is now the One True Religion of the West.

Let’s save the eulogies
(...)
Mandela started life as a peaceful protestor but soon turned to violence and was imprisoned thus. Despite being in jail, he was still able to sign off on the 1983 Church Street bombing, killing 19 people.

The UN reckons that 21,000 people were killed during the apartheid regime, some 518 deaths being the direct responsibility of the loathsome security forces. The ANC killed many, many more via the charming practice of the infamous ‘necklace’ Indeed, seeing the BBC this morning giving so much time to the odious Jacob Zuma had me reaching for the anti-emetics.

His record in government was unimpressive. The lights go out regularly in South Africa these days and the country is the child rape capital of the world, outclassing even Pakistan. Don’t believe me, ask Oprah Winfrey. It is an uber-violent society with crappy, crumbling infrastructure and endemic corruption which leads to collapsed shopping Malls when corrupt contractors are appointed by corrupt officials.

Are poor urban South Africans any better off? Sure they get to vote, but all they have done is replaced a white political elite with a black one.

(...)

Anonymous CS Loonie December 06, 2013 9:05 AM  

Mandela was the black, straight version of Obama...

Plus, Mandela was a total Alpha. Have you seen rape statistics for SA?

Anonymous CS Loonie December 06, 2013 9:06 AM  

Mandela was bad at communism, and thus bad at murdering more people, and that's good... and we should celebrate that.

Anonymous Dr. J December 06, 2013 10:16 AM  

@VD

How exactly did Mandela try to prevent racial conflict? Didn't his government disband the rural defense network that lead directly to the rape and murder of white farmers by the thousands. The subsequent disarmament of the white farmers via the government's registration policy opened the doors for AK-47 armed blacks to rape, torture and dismember white farmers and their families at will. The crimes aren't even prosecuted, and it's even garnered the attention of an organization like Genocide Watch.

So if by preventing racial violence, you meant that he asked the Boers to lay their necks on the blocks, and they willingly complied, I suppose I would agree.

Anonymous Piet van Zyl December 06, 2013 10:33 AM  

OT but the Boers you are referring to are actually called Afrikaners. Translated, boer means farmer and the only Afrikaners who refer to themselves as boers are actual farmers (a small percentage of the Afrikaner population). The rest of the time the term is used in a derogatory manner by fear mongering black folk trying to incite hate and fear before the elections. Example: "If you don't vote the Boers will come back to control us," - ANC deputy president Cyril Ramaphosa 11 Nov 2013.

Anonymous Gunnutmegger December 06, 2013 10:42 AM  

"I think you can excuse an old man for the violence committed in his youth during a revolution."

I don't believe there is any legitimate cause that can justify bombing schoolbuses full of kids and train stations full of people (2 of the 156 crimes that Mandela admitted to and was jailed for). Amnesty International refused to take Mandela's case, because he wasn't a political prisoner but a terrorist and in their judgement had received a fair trial & sentence.

I'm happy that he mellowed with age, but his actions and lack of remorse for them far outweigh any good that might be attributed to him. Good riddance.

I am a little surprised at the tolerance for/ignorance of Mandela here. Comparing Mandela to MLKing is an insult to King, despite King's many imperfections.

If abortion is so wrong, why does Nitro Nelson get a pass for his body count of dead kids?

Blogger LP 999/Eliza December 06, 2013 11:32 AM  

My ignorance of real history, undistorted, sanitized, is daunting!! Given the monsters in my life riding so high and holy, giving me chest pain, I am sure God will welcome a tired solider home...Either way, another human gives in the ghost and has his own real OBE.

Blogger LP 999/Eliza December 06, 2013 11:33 AM  

I mean, for all some people knew, he might be passed on.

Blogger Elmo Shangnaster December 06, 2013 11:58 AM  

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Blogger Elmo Shangnaster December 06, 2013 11:59 AM  

Judge him by what he wrote:

How To Be A Good Communist

https://archive.org/stream/HowToBeAGoodCommunist/Mandela_djvu.txt

Blogger LP 999/Eliza December 06, 2013 12:06 PM  

I guess what makes skeptics chirp is answering the question of, 'who do globalists' worship? The answer is clear.

Anonymous DonReynolds December 06, 2013 12:22 PM  

Nelson Mandella was a communist revolutionary determined to overthrow the government of South Afrika. I have looked forward to this day for many years and I am only sorry about two things.....first, he lived to be 95.....second, he did not take Minnie with him. Do not confuse Nelson Mandella with Morgan Freeman.

Blogger ajw308 December 06, 2013 12:32 PM  

I expect that Nelson will be remembered for being a great black leader, blacks will rally around his name under the standard Black agenda and some White toadies may even show their support by naming some road after him. See Martin Luther King

Anonymous DonReynolds December 06, 2013 12:39 PM  

My money is on the Boers. I knew a mercenary who fought on the Ian Smith side in the former Rhodesia...he said fighting his opponents was like a turkey shoot.

Eric....."I doubt it. There simply aren't enough of them. My prediction is things continue to slide slowly into anarchy as they did in Zimbabwe, and when the last of the institutions left by the white rulers collapses in decay whoever's in charge will blame the whites and take everything they have (possibly including their lives). Just like Zimbabwe."

Before the surrender to black rule there were 4 million white South Afrikans and now it is down to 3 million. So yes, there were not enough of them to start with and now they are a million fewer.

I have several Boer friends from college, who were from Port Elisabeth. These were not the people who surrendered South Afrika. Leave treason like that to the Brits, probably currying favor with the Americans.

Anonymous zxc December 06, 2013 12:52 PM  

I thought he was great in Shawshank... just ok as Mace Windu ...pretty bad-ass in Seven.

Anonymous Stg58/Animal Mother December 06, 2013 12:59 PM  

Mace Windu was Samuel L. Jackson.

Anonymous Josh December 06, 2013 1:07 PM  

Mandela did not go full Mugabe. You never go full Mugabe.

Anonymous zxc December 06, 2013 2:00 PM  

"Mace Windu was Samuel L. Jackson."

People make that mistake all the time. It was Nelson Mandela. The same guy who was in Shawshank.

Anonymous vryedenker December 06, 2013 2:57 PM  

yeah, i hope VryeDenker is doing okay.
Thanks man. I sincerely appreciate it. But I don't think anything will change overnight. Because if we ever get to experience civil war, people who look like me will be justified in arming ourselves and shooting back. BUT if the current anarcho-tyranny is allowed to continue at its current intensity, it can all be blamed on "ordinary crime" (whatever the hell that's supposed to mean), like it has been for the last 20 years and the genocide can be plausibly denied by our government.

So business as usual, in short. We may even get an extra public holiday. Which is nice.

Blogger TontoBubbaGoldstein December 06, 2013 4:13 PM  

...some White toadies may even show their support by naming some road after him. See Martin Luther King.

If so, it will likely be a road that you wouldn't want to be on after sunset. See Chris Rock.

Blogger J Curtis December 06, 2013 7:45 PM  

"(Dr. Peter) Hammond outlined that Mandela was the head of the military wing of the African National Committee (ANC), which Hammond also referred to as ‘the abortion, necklacing and corruption party.’ He said that 1,000 Africans were killed by necklacing in the country through the ANC, an act where terrorists would ‘put an automobile tire over someone, pour petrol over them [and] set them alight.’

“Hammond also described numerous other acts of violence that he alleges were committed by the ANC under the order or oversight of Mandela. ‘Missionaries and their kids [were] murdered, bayonetted on the fields—whole families killed by landmines planted in the roads,’ he said. The South African missionary stated that Mandela’s wife Winnie also participated in violent acts. ‘Winnie Mandela actually was found guilty in court of the murder of a 12-year-old boy,’ he explained. ‘And it was upheld on appeal. She was sentenced to five years in prison, [but] she hasn’t served a day’.” Link




Anonymous Big Bill December 06, 2013 11:17 PM  

I highly recommend this scholarly account of "necklacing" in South Africa:

http://books.google.com/books?id=6wgdw8cQ5SQC&pg=PA147&lpg=PA147#v=onepage&q&f=false

Anonymous vryedenker December 07, 2013 2:52 AM  

some White toadies may even show their support by naming some road after him

What, to go with Nelson Mandela boulevard, Nelson Mandela Metropolitan University, Nelson Mandela Drive, Nelson Mandela Way, Nelson Mandela Road and the statue of Nelson Mandela on Church Plain?

Anonymous The other skeptic December 07, 2013 12:53 PM  

Do not confuse Nelson Mandella with Morgan Freeman.

Haven't you got that wrong? Do not confuse either of them for fine upstanding men.

Anonymous Don Reynolds Pooped His Drawers December 07, 2013 5:15 PM  

Nelson Mandela, warts and all, fought to remove the vestiges of an past invading force completely dedicated to pillaging and plundering the land of his ancestors.

Blogger W.LindsayWheeler December 07, 2013 9:35 PM  

Again, I would like to point out that VD is erroneous in claiming that:

QUOTE "Mandela was a communist.

So was Gorbachev. Both men surmounted their evil ideology in an attempt to do the right thing. You have to look at what the men did, and what they chose not to do, in order to judge them fairly. Simply pointing and shrieking "communist" is behavior worthy of the SFWA. ENDQUOTE

Mandela did NOTHING RIGHT. His story is right out of Lenin's book. Mandela was a member of the ANC. What does "ANC" stand for?

Give you a hint--the same thing that "NAZI" stands for!!!!!!!!!!!!

What does "N" in Nazi and ANC stand for?

National!!!!

Mandela was part of a "National Socialist" organization! Communists are socialists. This is exactly what Lenin wanted "nationalism" to do--break down and attack European "oppresive" powers!

The Roman Catholic Church has anathemitized Communism. No matter what Mandela did---He resides IN HELL!!!

Come on VD--Communists killed Americans in Vietnam, Korea and killed Captain John Birch in China. Communism is anti-Christ. Mandela did NOTHING GOOD! Destroying Apartheid is Jewish Ideology. Communism is Jewish Ideology.

Blacks can NOT rule themselves. Can NOT.

VD, you have it all wrong. Communism is a Genocidal ideology. You want to claim any member of that is "Good"? Never in a million years. This man attacked our kinsmen and gloated over and advocated their killing---and US presidents went to his funeral?

You are all morons and idiots.

Blogger W.LindsayWheeler December 07, 2013 9:54 PM  

I would like to thank Shangnaster for that link, on Nelson Mandela's own paper---"How to be a Good Communist".

HOW TO BE A GOOD COMMUNIST

by

Nelson Mandela

INTRODUCTION

A Communist is a member of the Communist Party who understands and accepts the
theory and practice of Marxism-Leninism as explained by Marx, Engels, Lenin and Stalin
, and who subjects himself to the discipline of the Party. ENDQUOTE.

Marx, Engels and Lenin---All called for the Genociding of reactionary peoples. Not only does Communism call for actual genociding, it calls for existential genocide called Political Correctness. How do you call a man "good" who is an avowed member of a genocidal ideology? How?

No person today would belong to "national socialism". We are all taught to hate "national socialists" and aver them. Yet, Mandela was a "national socialist"!

Blogger abcdefgh December 08, 2013 4:44 PM  

"Nelson Mandela, warts and all, fought to remove the vestiges of an past invading force completely dedicated to pillaging and plundering the land of his ancestors."

In order to sell those vestiges off to multinational corporations. Read about Mandela's extensive connections to the Js. He didn't do some kind of about-face when he took the presidency (according to Rantor above) due to the fall of communism. He instead sold off billions of Afrikaner-built infrastructure. Guess who signed off on his economic plan before it was voted on? See his relationship to Oppenheimer. The reason apartheid was established was so this man's company couldn't use cheap black labor to force the whites out of power.

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