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Thursday, December 19, 2013

Media bias: the conclusive proof

Many people have argued over the years, in the face of the obvious evidence, that the media cannot be systematically biased to the Left because it would not make business sense to spurn more than half the population as customers. However, the recent decision by A&E to fire its biggest and most lucrative TV star because it is more concerned about catering to homosexuals than making money vividly demonstrates that politics and propaganda are more important to the media companies than making a profit:
A&E has placed Duck Dynasty patriarch Phil Robertson on indefinite hiatus following anti-gay remarks he made in a recent profile in GQ. "We are extremely disappointed to have read Phil Robertson's comments in GQ, which are based on his own personal beliefs and are not reflected in the series Duck Dynasty," A&E said in a statement. "His personal views in no way reflect those of A+E Networks, who have always been strong supporters and champions of the LGBT community. The network has placed Phil under hiatus from filming indefinitely."
These are companies that never fire anyone for anti-Christian or anti-Republican remarks, but they'll act with alacrity against anyone who says anything critical of the sexually abnormal. Notice that Alec Baldwin didn't get fired for his many and various rants until he offended homosexuals one too many times.

And if you watch A+E, why are you supporting "strong supporters and champions of the LGBT community"?

As for the statement by the spokesman of GLAAD, I shall await with interest his next statement on Muslim theology. "Phil and his family claim to be Christian, but Phil's lies about an entire community fly in the face of what true Christians believe," GLAAD spokesperson Wilson Cruz said.

The fact is that a queer propagandist like Wilson Cruz obviously no more knows what "true Christians believe" than he knows what "true Martians believe". The true and Biblically-based Christian belief is that self-identified homosexuals are unrepentant sinners whom God regards as abomination because they identify themselves with their sin. It is absolutely impossible to be a Christian and an unrepentant homosexual for the obvious reason that Christianity requires repentance for one's sins.

Everyone on the planet is fallen. And no one chooses their particular flavor of temptation. But we are all responsible for our own actions, we all choose whether to give into our temptations or not, and we all choose whether to repent of those moral failures, those sins, or not.

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Anonymous Micah December 19, 2013 3:04 PM  

Nate, based on your diatribe @ 1:19pm, are you trying to say lust isn't a sin and is not totally opposed to the will of God?

Anonymous Greatheart December 19, 2013 3:05 PM  

JartStar December 19, 2013 1:46 PM: "Nate, it's worse than the worst of hyper-Calvinism as at least some get saved in Calvinism and Calvinists most certainly see the resurrection as pivotal. Greatheart's theology minimizes Jesus' sacrifice while making the act of repentance itself the means of salvation."

You misunderstand. Salvation as we know it could not be realized without the sacrifice and resurrection of Yeshua/Jesus. But, repentance is a very important part of salvation. Yeshua declared for the Jews to repent, for the kingdom of Heaven is at hand. Before Yeshua entered the world salvation could be lost if sacrifice was not made with repentance. Because of His sacrifice, all that is necessary is repentance. Nothing else is needed. We can be assured a place in Heaven because of His resurrection, and since blood sacrifice is no longer needed, Repent! for the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand.

Blogger JartStar December 19, 2013 3:07 PM  

Fair enough Greatheart. Looks like Markku's reading was the correct one.

Blogger Mom December 19, 2013 3:15 PM  

Ezekiel 3:20
When a righteous man turns away from his righteousness and commits iniquity, and I place an obstacle before him, he shall die; since you have not warned him, he shall die in his sin, and his deeds which he has done shall not be remembered....

Anonymous Luke December 19, 2013 3:17 PM  

VD December 19, 2013 6:17 AM
"So what is it about homosexuality that still sticks in the craw of Christians?

You completely missed the point. Homosexuals are the only people in the world who define themselves by their sin."


Disagreeing here. Environmentalists, animal rights types, militant voluntary (e.g, needlessly so) vegan vegetarians, atheists, and (above all) feminists all also routinely "define themselves" by their trademark chronic sin they routinely glorify and publicize.

Anonymous Sigyn December 19, 2013 3:20 PM  

As I recall, Chick-Fil-A did the typical Repuke thing and assumed the position before the Lavender mob when Rahm & Co. demanded they embrace sodomy as part of Chicago's city ordinance. Did this change? (I stopped following the story in disgust after that point). Chick-Fil-A is still in business. I expect JCclimber is more right than wrong here.

You stopped following it too soon. They've continued to donate exactly how they were before. What you saw was the media flipping out because a Chicago pol decided to lie about it so he could be a big hero for about ten minutes.

Anonymous Gen. Kong December 19, 2013 3:22 PM  

Gunnar von Cowtown's 3:01 PM comment is dead on. I am likewise really surprised the series was allowed to go on this long. I think it was intended as something to mock and ridicule folks like the Robertsons and blew up in their faces. I note that now they're screaming rayciss too.

Blogger Outlaw X December 19, 2013 3:25 PM  

You should be ashamed, very ashamed. How am I wrong? How do I minimize His sacrifice? Please enlighten me, Nate.

I'm not Nate and don't speak for him, but telling me or anyone about God's judgment is a fools errand, and a damn stupid thing to do. Leave God to God, and don't be like the disciples who were asking Jesus for a place at the table. Go to the back of the room and let him call you forward.

Blogger Mom December 19, 2013 3:26 PM  

Ezekiel 18:21
But if the wicked man turns from all his sins which he has committed and observes all My statutes and practices justice and righteousness, he shall surely live; he shall not die. All his transgressions which he has committed will not be remembered against him; because of his righteousness which he has practiced, he will live. Do I have any pleasure in the death of the wicked," declares The Lord God, "rather than that he should turn from his ways and live?
But when a righteous man turns away from his righteousness, commits iniquity, and does according to all the abominations that a wicked man does, will he live? All his righteous deeds which he has done will not e remembered for his treachery which he has committed and his sin which he has committed; for them he will die.
Yet you say, "The way of The Lord is not right,' Hear now...Is it not your ways that are not right?"

Blogger Nate December 19, 2013 3:27 PM  

'Nate, based on your diatribe @ 1:19pm, are you trying to say lust isn't a sin and is not totally opposed to the will of God?"

That would require a debate over the meaning of the word "lust". To some lust means the decision to act as already been made. to others it means just the desire.

so to give the clintonian answer... that would depend on your definition of lust. Its like temptation I suppose. There are all manner of epic debates on what temptation actually means.



Anonymous Martin Luther December 19, 2013 3:28 PM  

But he also said that Peter would be the foundation on which he would build his church.

Incorrect. You're mistaking Peter with the Truthful admission he made.

Anonymous Scintan December 19, 2013 3:31 PM  

so to give the clintonian answer... that would depend on your definition of lust. Its like temptation I suppose. There are all manner of epic debates on what temptation actually means.

Seems like an appropriate time to toss covet out there along with temptation and lust.

Blogger Nate December 19, 2013 3:31 PM  

"Well Hoss, I didn't see one mention of the merchandise agreement in that stupid E article you are using to back up your stupid assertion. Try again or retract, goofy.

Oh and if the majority of the news you read is from E News you are a doofus"

So I have my very own ankle biter now? Awesome. Not the first time of course... not the last.

The point, since you're to slow to catch it, is that its an article that traces their earnings. Note that there is no mention of merch revenue from DD... even though DD sold 400 million in merchandise this year alone.

Forbes also did an article on Willie where it says he's worth 20 million and explains why. You will not it also mentions no money from DD merch.

So... now you know why I say what I say.

I really don't give a rats ass if you agree or not.

Anonymous Krul December 19, 2013 3:35 PM  

Nate - That would require a debate over the meaning of the word "lust". To some lust means the decision to act as already been made. to others it means just the desire.

I wasn't aware of that. Do you (or anyone) happen to have a source that lays out the case for the former interpretation (that lust implies willingness to act if given the opportunity)?

Blogger Markku December 19, 2013 3:35 PM  

That's also what Greg said on Stand to Reason, that Phil mentioned their earnings from DD are negligible.

Blogger Markku December 19, 2013 3:40 PM  

Hbr 6:11 And we desire [epithymeō, G1937] that every one of you do shew the same diligence to the full assurance of hope unto the end:

Same word as lusting after a man's wife. So, epithymeō simply means a strong desire. Christians used to say "I covet your prayers", you know.

Anonymous redsash December 19, 2013 3:43 PM  

Brother Phil once went two years without shoes just because. He threw for nearly 300 yards for an undermanned La Tech team against Bama in the sixties. He has been preaching the Word of God and putting out men's I's for nearly 30 years. His son Alan is the associate preacher for the West Monroe Church of Christ, brother Si is an elder there. Willie is a graduate of Harding University. The Robertsons live Jesus. For Phil and his clan it is God, family, church. If Phil goes so does Kay, Willie, Korie, Jase, Missy, Jep, Jessica, Si, Martin, Godwin, Mountain Man, and Jimmy Red, and their children. Phil, Kay, Si, and Willie constantly criss-cross the South speaking of faith, love, and hope in Jesus. They are much in demand as speakers and now even more so. A&E has no idea what they have unleashed. This is a man who in effect told the NFL to go to hell and provided for his family from just a river.

The Indian Supreme Court just ruled that homosexual behavior was a crime and punishable by imprisonment. The Russian parliament has made homosexual propagandizing a criminal offense, and of course we know what Islam does to homosexuals. It is high time that the Christians in America acted to protect their children and their Christian values by eliminating this deviant sexual behavior and placing the homosexual back in the closet or in a jail cell. Only the effeminate West and the godless tolerate this perversion. Oh, and by the way just being effeminate and not being the man God created you to be will also keep you out of heaven if you don't repent and change your wicked ways.

Blogger Markku December 19, 2013 3:45 PM  

However, Mat 5:28 doesn't merely say epithymeo, it says blepon gynaika PROS to epithymesai; to look FOR THE PURPOSE OF desiring.

Anonymous Anonymous December 19, 2013 3:46 PM  


By the by, the last functional family on TV was probably The Addams Family.

It was unique among sitcoms in that threats to the family come from outside, and the family bands together to face them while accepting each others personal idiosyncrasies.

Anonymous Krul December 19, 2013 3:51 PM  

Markku - However, Mat 5:28 doesn't merely say epithymeo, it says blepon gynaika PROS to epithymesai; to look FOR THE PURPOSE OF desiring.

Put that way it sounds like leering or ogling, rather than just inward desire.

Blogger Nate December 19, 2013 3:51 PM  

"However, Mat 5:28 doesn't merely say epithymeo, it says blepon gynaika PROS to epithymesai; to look FOR THE PURPOSE OF desiring."

Willful intent.

Blogger Outlaw X December 19, 2013 3:52 PM  

However, Mat 5:28 doesn't merely say epithymeo, it says blepon gynaika PROS to epithymesai; to look FOR THE PURPOSE OF desiring.

Straining at a gnat.. You are a sinner, get used to it.

Anonymous Greatheart December 19, 2013 3:55 PM  

jay c December 19, 2013 2:18 PM: "I agree with you about the applicability of Torah, but name chapter and verse on whose sins and righteousness will be remembered based on the temporal relationship of the sin to death. Cuz I don't buy that at all."

Not quite the Torah, but hafTorah, look at Ezekiel 3:16-21. I got most of the quote right, but I stand by what I said.

Anonymous Micah December 19, 2013 3:55 PM  

I'm not an ankle biter and I normally agree with the majority of your comments, but lately you just throw BS out there and pretend it's fact. I decided to call you on it just like you enjoy calling out others who assert BS as fact.
If the best you can do is a stupid E News article then I guess we'll leave it at that, but you do realize it backs up my contention that in this matter you are definitely a doofus.

By the way I live in N Louisiana so be careful before you respond in any manner that assumes you have knowledge of the Robertson's financial arrangements. You can put 2 and 2 together, right?

You must be losing it Nate, you gave a Bill Clinton answer as to what lust is and whether it's for or against God's will that we participate in it and call it righteous? Really?

Blogger Markku December 19, 2013 3:58 PM  

Put that way it sounds like leering or ogling, rather than just inward desire.

Yep. The words are about looking, not about desiring. I mean, that's just plain in the text (unless your translation is dynamic equivalence'd to hell), and especially the Greek.

That is, looking for a particular purpose.

Anonymous Anonymous December 19, 2013 3:59 PM  

You stopped following it too soon. [Chick-Fil-A has] continued to donate exactly how they were before.

Yeah, but didn't the owner grovel and declare his tolerance on camera? That's how I remember it, and that's what matters. The lavender mafia doesn't care where you donate, as long as you make the proper obeisance for the public to see and learn from.

Blogger Markku December 19, 2013 4:00 PM  

You are a sinner, get used to it.

I look at plenty of women for the purpose of desiring them, I don't need made-up sins to be a sinner.

Blogger Nate December 19, 2013 4:04 PM  

"By the way I live in N Louisiana so be careful before you respond in any manner that assumes you have knowledge of the Robertson's financial arrangements. You can put 2 and 2 together, right? "

Good. Now tell me who owns the Duck Dynasty Trademark.

And tell me about the family members themselves saying in interviews that the DD revenue was minimal.

Anonymous Greatheart December 19, 2013 4:05 PM  

JartStar December 19, 2013 2:36 PM: "...is Markku's interpretation of what you said correct? That even though the believer should go to hell by committing a sin and not repenting first they do not because of Grace?"

Yes. Once a person repents, Grace activates. John did say Yeshua did not come into the world to condemn the world, but that through Him, the world would be saved. That's what I believe and what I wish - for all to be saved. Also, Yeshua said that it is not the Father's Will that any should perish, but that all come to repentance. That's how important repentance is; Repentance is not Salvation, but without it Salvation can not be attained.

Blogger Nate December 19, 2013 4:07 PM  

"You must be losing it Nate, you gave a Bill Clinton answer as to what lust is and whether it's for or against God's will that we participate in it and call it righteous? Really?"

Because that's all the question is worth.

That whole bizarre tangent was pointless in the first place... because the very person who was prattling on about judgement admitted that we're saved by Grace.

Either your immortal soul is in peril or it isn't.

The answer to that question has nothing to do with whether or not you sin... or sinned.

Blogger Outlaw X December 19, 2013 4:12 PM  

I look at plenty of women for the purpose of desiring them, I don't need made-up sins to be a sinner.

I don't but we all are sinners. If all sinners went to Hell Heaven would be empty. I saw a girl at the pharmacy today and she was a knock out blonde. I didn't lust after her, but admired her beauty, she couldn't have been but about 23 years old. But I do sin, and am impatient.

Blogger Markku December 19, 2013 4:13 PM  

You're an old fart, I have hormones.

Anonymous Greatheart December 19, 2013 4:23 PM  

Outlaw X December 19, 2013 3:25 PM: "You should be ashamed, very ashamed. How am I wrong? How do I minimize His sacrifice? Please enlighten me, Nate.

"I'm not Nate and don't speak for him, but telling me or anyone about God's judgment is a fools errand, and a damn stupid thing to do. Leave God to God, and don't be like the disciples who were asking Jesus for a place at the table. Go to the back of the room and let him call you forward."

When Yeshua/Jesus met the apostles for the last time He said to make disciples of all nations. The Torah says we are to talk about His Word from dawn into the night. It should permeate all your life. To not talk about His judgement is no different from condoning sin. I'm sorry it bothers you so much, but that's between you and God and has nothing to do with me. I don't judge you, but if I see you doing something that could affect your relationship with God, it is my responsibility to, at least, say something in the spirit of love, not to judge you, but to alert you to a potential problem. Read Ezekiel chapter 3 and you'll understand better. To refuse to talk about it is foolish, and damn foolish at that.

Anonymous Sigyn December 19, 2013 4:25 PM  

Yeah, but didn't the owner grovel and declare his tolerance on camera?

I don't recall that happening, though I admit I don't see everything that happens. I know Barilla did, though; you might be blending the two, maybe?

I just remain skeptical at the moment because it seems to me a grovel-fest would have been everywhere had Dan Cathy done so.

Anonymous PhillipGeorge(c)2013 December 19, 2013 4:25 PM  

hardsrabble: Here are your conclusions.

Nothing created everything.

I couldn't spend 10 years in libraries, laboratories and on ebay buying /acquiring the knowledge and equipment to build the keyboard/ iphone.

I personally think 10 years of reviewing collated information would get me there. It is the collated/ passed down real information bit you won't think your way through. All language has syntax semantics text pretext context sender and receiver. It didn't come from nothing. But hey


OOOmmmmmmmmmmmmmm I am a scientist, OOOOOMMmmmmmmm, I am a scientist.

The mantra will help sooth your conscience

Anonymous Greatheart December 19, 2013 4:25 PM  

Mom December 19, 2013 3:26 PM

Ezekiel 18:21

Thanks, Mom. I just couldn't find it in my search. Blessings!

Anonymous Micah December 19, 2013 4:25 PM  

If I played poker last night and I don't want my wife to know how much I won, wouldn't I say something to the effect that "it was minimal."? Phil is obviously of the opinion that it's none of the questioners business.

What else you got, King Doofus?

It's not real fun when the shoe is on the other foot, is it?

Blogger Markku December 19, 2013 4:28 PM  

If I played poker last night and I don't want my wife to know how much I won, wouldn't I say something to the effect that "it was minimal."?

The difference is, this wasn't someone before whom Phil would be inclined to grovel. So, he'd say, none of your damn business.

Anonymous jay c December 19, 2013 4:28 PM  

@Greatheart jay c December 19, 2013 2:18 PM: "I agree with you about the applicability of Torah, but name chapter and verse on whose sins and righteousness will be remembered based on the temporal relationship of the sin to death. Cuz I don't buy that at all."

Not quite the Torah, but hafTorah, look at Ezekiel 3:16-21. I got most of the quote right, but I stand by what I said.


Committing a sin on one's deathbed does not equate to turning away from his righteousness. The Ezekiel passage is talking about a change in way of life and not a single transgression.

Blogger Outlaw X December 19, 2013 4:31 PM  

but that's between you and God and has nothing to do with me.

Yeah, so stay out of it, I don't care what you think, you don't pay my salary and you won't be my final judge. Mind your own damn business and you will be busy all the time.

Anonymous Raggededge December 19, 2013 4:34 PM  

If I played poker last night and I don't want my wife to know how much I won, wouldn't I say something to the effect that "it was minimal."? Phil is obviously of the opinion that it's none of the questioners business.

What else you got, King Doofus?

It's not real fun when the shoe is on the other foot, is it?


Geez, lay off already. Nate asked you who owns the Duck Dynasty Trademark. You put two and two together and figure out who is making the money off of Duck Dynasty merchandise. Nobody is saying that the Robertson's haven't used their show to enhance their wealth, but it is coming mainly from their Duck Commander stuff and their speaking and book deals.

Blogger Outlaw X December 19, 2013 4:35 PM  

You're an old fart, I have hormones.

Markku you have an excellent sense of humor and are a good guy.

Blogger Markku December 19, 2013 4:36 PM  

Markku you have an excellent sense of humor and are a good guy.

Glad you caught the tone in which it was said.

Anonymous Greatheart December 19, 2013 4:38 PM  

Nate December 19, 2013 3:51 PM: "However, Mat 5:28 doesn't merely say epithymeo, it says blepon gynaika PROS to epithymesai; to look FOR THE PURPOSE OF desiring."

"Willful intent."

Would you agree that if the desire leads to fantasy about that person if the opportunity arose, would that fall under the danger of sin, or do you give it a pass?

Blogger Markku December 19, 2013 4:45 PM  

I don't know which you are responding to, but as for me, I'd say that physically looking and fantasizing afterwards are the same sin.

Anonymous Anonymous December 19, 2013 4:50 PM  

Sigyn, I think you're right; I can't find anything now about Dan Cathy groveling, and a search for that actually brought up Barilla. Thanks for setting me straight.

Anonymous Greatheart December 19, 2013 4:51 PM  

Nate December 19, 2013 4:07 PM: "Either your immortal soul is in peril or it isn't."

Your soul is in peril up to the point of:
A) You admit you are a sinner separated from the Holy God.
B) You acknowledge there is nothing you can do to attain eternal Life.
C) You declare Yeshua/Jesus as your savior and apply His precepts to your life daily.

At that point you are no longer in peril. Salvation is a privilege, not a right.

"The answer to that question has nothing to do with whether or not you sin... or sinned."

Here is a question: If a person makes a declaration of faith in receiving Yeshua as their Savior, and their life doesn't change in that he continues to make choices as he did in his past, can he truly be said to be saved?

We are saved by Grace and that not of ourselves, it is a gift from God.

Anonymous Greatheart December 19, 2013 5:01 PM  

jay c December 19, 2013 4:28 PM: "Committing a sin on one's deathbed does not equate to turning away from his righteousness. The Ezekiel passage is talking about a change in way of life and not a single transgression."

Although the deathbed is the last place a person would normally sin, and a single act would not necessarily be a deathnell, to refuse repentance and ask forgiveness would do away with any act of righteousness the person may have done and cause him to be in danger of judgement. That's why all we need is to repent and the Grace of God, because of Yeshua's sacrifice, kicks in to assure our continued Hope of Salvation.

Anonymous jay c December 19, 2013 5:03 PM  

to refuse repentance and ask forgiveness

I can agree with you there. Before, I thought you were saying that any unintentional and even unaware sin a second before death would cost a person his salvation.

Anonymous MIcah December 19, 2013 5:03 PM  

"Geez, lay off already." - Raggededge

I'll be glad to as long as you tell him to lay off the next time he crucifies somebody for commenting about a topic he believes they know nothing about. Deal? I didn't think so.

It doesn't actually matter what the agreement is, it's the fact that Nate has no idea what the arrangement is but insists we believe he does.

E News article? That is laughable in so many ways.

If somebody used an article from that site to prove a point Nate would castrate them, but for him it's OK? Not!!!

Blogger Markku December 19, 2013 5:03 PM  

Although the deathbed is the last place a person would normally sin

You said sins of omission count, so a deathbed sin might be, for example, not having been adequately loving that day.

Anonymous Greatheart December 19, 2013 5:05 PM  

Outlaw X December 19, 2013 4:31 PM: "Yeah, so stay out of it, I don't care what you think, you don't pay my salary and you won't be my final judge. Mind your own damn business and you will be busy all the time."

I beg your pardon, but you were the one to stick your nose into the conversation, which isn't a bad thing, but don't think you can scold me into silence because something's got your heart twisted up. That's all on you.

Now, if you need the last word on this, go ahead, I may not respond. But I wish you well. Blessings.

Blogger Nate December 19, 2013 5:19 PM  

"If I played poker last night and I don't want my wife to know how much I won, wouldn't I say something to the effect that "it was minimal."? Phil is obviously of the opinion that it's none of the questioners business.

What else you got, King Doofus?

It's not real fun when the shoe is on the other foot, is it?"

Surgar tits that's only have an answer.

There's E! article... the Forbes Article.. and their own testimony.

Now look I don't know what you think I was implying... maybe you think I meant that they weren't really rich or something... I have no idea... but I certainly wasn't.

My only point was... the majority of their money comes from Duck Commander.

So speaking of the shoe being on the other foot...

How about you take a turn and show a source that DOES say they get money from DD merch.

Blogger Outlaw X December 19, 2013 5:27 PM  

That's all on you.

You are singing my song again.

Anonymous Micah December 19, 2013 5:30 PM  

I am implying, asserting, stating and boisterously advocating that you should either comment about what you do know, which is impressive, and leave the implications of having information you don't have out or I'll do my best to remind you. Deal?

Blogger Nate December 19, 2013 5:37 PM  

'I am implying, asserting, stating and boisterously advocating that you should either comment about what you do know, which is impressive, and leave the implications of having information you don't have out or I'll do my best to remind you"

You're free to ask me why I think anything I say I think. Just like everyone else is mate. You ain't special. No deal required.



Anonymous 114 December 19, 2013 5:53 PM  

It is my opinion that homosexuality is the combination of faulty biological development and classical conditioning.

I have read that homosexual brains resemble heterosexual brains of the opposite sex, which confirms real world observation and stereotypes.

As for conditioning, nerve endings respond to stimulation regardless of gender or species. A young person who is molested by or merely experiments with a member of the same sex may come to associate sexual stimulation with the same sex, thus conditioning his or her sexuality.

If this is true, it would explain why homosexuals believe they are born gay.

Anonymous Mudz December 19, 2013 6:00 PM  

@ Mudz December 19, 2013 7:08 AM
Learn history
Again
and again
The archeological record is there, so is the anthropological record; your refusal to recognize that is foolish. If all the evidence for Israelite migration is a lie, then so is the evidence for any other group's migration when using the same tools of knowledge.


Huh? Why the heck are you going on about migration for, weirdo?

Blogger Crude December 19, 2013 6:56 PM  

Greatheart,

The problem is, Crude, is that even if they are celibate, they will still be judged by their thoughts. It's what's in their heart. If they are just tempted, and don't act on it by dwelling in their hearts, filling their thoughts with scripture and prayer, then you are correct and they will escape the punishment. If, however, they know the act is wrong, but wish it weren't, then there is no guarantee they will escape the punishment that will come.

Well right, I'm not talking about people who play the game of 'I'm celibate, technically, as far as you know - but I'm working towards changing our church's laws (if this is the sort of church that can do that, like methodists) to say that it is NOT wrong and oh boy I can't wait for that day!'

Blogger JCclimber December 19, 2013 6:58 PM  

To compare the Dixie chicks and Chik FilA to A&E would require extending the comparison thusly:
A&E is sold as a package. Currently, in almost every single market both cable and satellite, you buy A&E as part of a bunch of other channels (it's almost always in the Basic package).
So, to avoid PAYING for A&E, you would need to unsubscribe from the package that comes with A&E. Essentially, turning off your cable or satellite.

To make it comparable, you'd have to swear off country music or even most popular music to avoid having to buy/support Dixie Chicks music.
You'd have to stop going to fast food to avoid supporting Chik FilA.
Obviously this comparison doesn't hold because neither of those two "products" are exclusively sold as part of a package.

I'm going to bet on A&E doing just fine.
Now, if all of you customers of cable and satellite FINALLY force them to sell channels individually, then maybe you'll have some boycott power. Good luck with that.

Anonymous AlteredFate December 19, 2013 7:39 PM  

This reminds of something I read not too long ago. It was about how creating a law which forced the cable and satellite companies into offering a la carte channel selection, would be an effective way of depriving the left of a huge revenue source. Anyone read anything like that and remember the details on how that would work as an effective tactic? Personally I detest television, but like many others I have basic cable only because it is packaged with high speed internet.

Blogger AMDG December 19, 2013 8:39 PM  

"The network has placed Phil under hiatus from filming indefinitely."

Does anyone else find this statement to be contradictory? By definition, a hiatus is temporary, i.e. a gap. Reading between the lines, I think what A&E is trying to say is that Phil will be broadcast in person again by A&E if he is sufficiently repentant of his statement off the air to satisfy GLAAD. Of course, that will never happen and it's just a matter of time before its cancelled and picked up by another cable network. Unlike the chic fil a debacle, this is a perfect test case of the culture war because Duck Commander, Phil Robertson's real financial Achilles heal, will flourish from the controversy. How many buyers of duck calls secretly or candidly espouse contempt for the homosexual movement and its intimidation of political opponents? Duck Commander is a family business and Phil is its head. There will never be a mutiny given the family's loyalty and Christian faith.

Moreover, A&E has unquestionably overreached here, resulting in A&E unwittingly manufacturing a catch 22 for itself. I was frankly surprised to hear that A&E broadcast the show at all considering its reputation for focusing on the classics and fine arts (which Duck Dynasty is not). I was also surprised to hear A&E admit that it's a strong supporter of the LGBT lobby. I can only assume it's also a supporter of Planned Parenthood and the NAACP. Like so many businesses today, A&E is focused on the bottom line and is loyal to the shifting political winds, and right now, the homosexual lobby, flanked by the Courts/Obama and Hollywood, is blowing a gale. I will be watching closely to see their public relations department exit this quagmire. The best it can hope for is this to all go away quietly.

Blogger Markku December 19, 2013 9:06 PM  

Boycott A&E Facebook page, one million likes in 24h, including the first ever like from yours truly

Anonymous JRL December 19, 2013 9:54 PM  

We, meaning a great many fellow Christians, are too far up on our high horses about this particular sin...our attitudes are often ruled by disgust for the act more than love for the sinner.

And some on this own blog seem to think sticking it up a woman's anus is God's own plan.

However....if homo disgust toward the hetero act is normal, so is hetero disgust for the homo act. Let the man have his fucking opinion.

Makes me wish I watched TV so I could stop watching it all over again. What a pathetic display by A & E.

Blogger Markku December 19, 2013 9:58 PM  

Because this one sin, more than anything, is currently the cultural line in the sand: spit in God's face upon request, or face the consequences.

Well, as for me, I won't spit.

Blogger LP 999/Eliza December 19, 2013 10:01 PM  

What an absurd insult to Christmas and another complete diversion from reality. A diversion meant to further conquer and divide America. However, the divisions fall into place in a fake post American culture in response to Christianity. There will be some who want nothing to do with the abnormal or the unhealthy.

A & E should leave the man alone, duck dyn is raking in the millions in ratings, ads, clothing, gear, etc. The man has a preference as does the smaller minority of those who do not share his views. Why haven't wal mart pulled all the merch? Who is hung up on the pink hand? The easily offended, constantly looking to pick a fight, have found a few days or weeks of content.

Disclosure; I have never watched the show as I ditched any tv. No local channel, no cable, total quiet.

Blogger Markku December 19, 2013 11:07 PM  

1.2 Million. I like. You like? Then you like!

Not because likes on Facebook really change the world, like SWPL's would have you believe. But to remind us, the demoralized majority, that we are not marginalized.

Blogger Brad Andrews December 19, 2013 11:09 PM  

I notice that many of you are still missing what happens when someone gets reborn in Christ. They are "reborn" and become a "new creation." Clearly that is their spirit, the opposite of what happened to Adam and Eve when they died.

The actions of their flesh (body and mind) should follow, but do not always. The state of their spirit is what determines where they go when they die.

I will let God sort out exactly who is and who isn't reborn. I don't believe it is easy to truly fake, but I do believe that some besetting sins can be hard for the body to beat, including many like gluttony and drunkenness that are socially acceptable.

I would encourage anyone who thinks they can live completely contrary to God's Word to examine themselves. I would hate to get to the end and hear "depart from me, I never knew you."

You may not be born again if you live like a devil. You may make it through, having all the works in your life burned up, but what kind of end reward is that?

Looking from another perspective, I would add that we need to realize all of us will fight our own sins until the day we leave this earth. I agree with Vox that the willingness of some to have parades with pride in their sin is the core issue, but we all need to leave the judging to God.

Ironically, I find that most Christians do exactly that while the godless tend to be the most judging, especially when they come against you for judging something they think is fine.

Salvation is ultimately God's issue, using sound judgment to live the best life and keep the best society we can is ours.

Blogger Outlaw X December 19, 2013 11:17 PM  

Good stuff Brad.

Anonymous Ain December 20, 2013 12:41 AM  

Crude: "It's bizarre. And I honestly wonder how long the culture is going to tolerate THIS level of sensitivity on the part of the world's most emotionally fragile group."

...Not to mention their legendary intolerance.

Blogger Markku December 20, 2013 12:57 AM  

In case someone hasn't checked Drudge, the rest of the clan has now said they'll walk. Which should have been self-evident to anyone who has watched even a few episodes.

Anonymous kfg December 20, 2013 1:58 AM  

"if you watch A+E"
Not since they cancelled Nero Wolfe.

Blogger Markku December 20, 2013 2:05 AM  

1.3M. Not enough. Can we get 2.0M?

...

Yes, we can!

I think that because of all this, we right thinking people will rediscover our strength. I believe God raised a redneck to spearhead a new revolution.

Anonymous Peter Garstig December 20, 2013 6:06 AM  

The fight for greatest victim is in full force already.

Where's that script again the everybody follows?

Anonymous DonReynolds December 20, 2013 8:52 PM  

It is entirely mind-boggling each and every time I hear NON-CHRISTIANS accuse ANYONE (including Christians) that they are not being Christian enough.......particularly when the issue at question is very clearly Christian.....but simply unpopular with NON-CHRISTIANS.
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I have never been a fan of Duck Dynasty and live too close to Louisiana to be impressed by swamp people or rednecks (who surround me every single day). But knowing A&E very well for decades.....as a network just slightly to the left of PBS...... I am sure A&E has been surprised and appalled by the popularity and support for Duck Dynasty.
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In my heart of hearts, I will always believe they broadcast the program in order to hold these people up for ridicule and to support the narrative that white rednecks are ignorant (or stupid) low-life. They could have developed a similar program in East Tennessee or West Virginia or the Ozarks called "Real Hillbillies". (Maybe leaving that one to Discovery, or Animal Planet, or NatGeo, Spike or MTV.)

Anonymous DonReynolds December 20, 2013 8:59 PM  

Markku......"Because this one sin, more than anything, is currently the cultural line in the sand: spit in God's face upon request, or face the consequences.
Well, as for me, I won't spit."

Hooray for Markku.
As long as there is ONE good man, we have an example.

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