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Wednesday, December 11, 2013

Race, crime, and (r)

From Explorable:

Statistical correlation is measured by what is called coefficient of correlation (r). Its numerical value ranges from +1.0 to -1.0. It gives us an indication of the strength of relationship.

In general, r > 0 indicates positive relationship, r < 0 indicates negative relationship while r = 0 indicates no relationship (or that the variables are independent and not related). Here r = +1.0 describes a perfect positive correlation and r = -1.0 describes a perfect negative correlation.
Closer the coefficients are to +1.0 and -1.0, greater is the strength of the relationship between the variables.

As a rule of thumb, the following guidelines on strength of relationship are often useful (though many experts would somewhat disagree on the choice of boundaries).

Value of r Strength of relationship
-1.0 to -0.5 or 1.0 to 0.5 Strong
-0.5 to -0.3 or 0.3 to 0.5 Moderate
-0.3 to -0.1 or 0.1 to 0.3 Weak
-0.1 to 0.1 None or very weak

From Ron Unz:
[O]ver the last twenty-five years the weighted correlations for each of the crime categories against the percentages of whites, Hispanics, and “immigrants” (i.e. Hispanics-plus-Asians) have fluctuated in the general range of -0.20 to -0.60. Interestingly enough, for most of the last decade the presence of Hispanics and immigrants has become noticeably less associated with crime than the presence of whites, although that latter category obviously exhibits large regional heterogeneity. Meanwhile, in the case of blacks, the weighted crime correlations have steadily risen from 0.60 to around 0.80 or above, almost always now falling within between 0.75 and 0.85.
That's not the interesting part, however. At this point, only a complete idiot or the willfully blind will deny the relative African predilection for crime. What is interesting is his conclusions regarding how the supposedly anti-racist liberals are addressing this very strong correlation and how immigration factors into it:
America’s ruling financial, media, and political elites are largely concentrated in three major urban centers—New York City, Los Angeles, and Washington, D.C.—and all three have contained large black populations, including a violent underclass. During the early 1990s, many observers feared New York City was headed for urban collapse due to its enormously high crime rates, Los Angeles experienced the massive and deadly Rodney King Riots, and Washington often vied for the title of American homicide capital. In each city, the violence and crime were overwhelmingly committed by black males, and although white elites were rarely the victims, their fears were quite palpable.

One obvious reaction to these concerns was strong political support for a massive national crackdown on crime, and the prison incarceration of black men increased by almost 500% during the two decades after 1980. But even after such enormous rates of imprisonment, official FBI statistics indicate that blacks today are still over 600% as likely to commit homicide than non-blacks and their robbery rate is over 700% larger; these disparities seem just as high with respect to Hispanic or Asian immigrants as they are for whites. Thus, replacing a city’s blacks with immigrants would tend to lower local crime rates by as much as 90%, and during the 1990s American elites may have become increasingly aware of this important fact, together with the obvious implications for their quality of urban life and housing values.

According to Census data, between 1990 and 2010 the number of Hispanics and Asians increased by one-third in Los Angeles, by nearly 50% in New York City, and by over 70% in Washington, D.C. The inevitable result was to squeeze out much of the local black population, which declined, often substantially, in each location. And all three cities experienced enormous drops in local crime, with homicide rates falling by 73%, 79%, and 72% respectively, perhaps partly as a result of these underlying demographic changes. Meanwhile, the white population increasingly shifted toward the affluent, who were best able to afford the sharp rise in housing prices. It is an undeniable fact that American elites, conservative and liberal alike, are today almost universally in favor of very high levels of immigration, and their possible recognition of the direct demographic impact upon their own urban circumstances may be an important but unspoken factor in shaping their views.

As an anecdotal example, consider the case of Matthew Yglesias, a prominent young liberal blogger living in Washington, DC. A couple of years ago he recounted on his blogsite how he was suddenly attacked from behind and seriously beaten by two young men while walking home one evening from a dinner party. At first he was quite cagey about identifying his attackers, but he eventually admitted they were blacks, possibly engaged in the growing racial practice of urban “polar bear hunting” so widely publicized by the Drudge Report and other rightwing websites.

Few matters are more likely to trouble the minds of our Harvard-educated intellectual elite than fear of suffering random violent assaults while they walk the streets of their own city. Yet no respectable progressive would possibly focus on the racial character of such an attack, let alone advocate the removal of local blacks as a precautionary measure. Instead Yglesias suggested that housing-density issues might have been responsible and that better urban planning would reduce crime.

But consider that support for very high levels of foreign immigration is an impeccably liberal cause, and such policies inevitably displace and remove huge numbers of urban blacks; it is easy to imagine that Yglesias quietly redoubled his pro-immigration zeal in the wake of the incident. Multiply this personal example a thousand-fold, and perhaps an important strand of the tremendous pro-immigration ideological framework of American elites becomes apparent. The more conspiratorially-minded racialists, bitterly hostile to immigration, sometimes speculate that there is a diabolical plot by our ruling power structure to “race-replace” America’s traditional white population. Perhaps a hidden motive along these lines does indeed help explain some support for heavy immigration, but I suspect that the race being targeted for replacement is not the white one.
Indeed. One might reach the same conclusion when looking closely at the consequences of liberal policies on welfare and abortion. Never look at the selling points, look at the consequences. If the course is not subsequently changed in light of a divergence between the two, it is safe to assume that the consequences were planned from the start.

Remember, extrapolating current trends to predict the future is reliably a failure. In 1900, it was widely believed that the black race was inevitably headed for extinction. 100 years later, it looks like the whites are on the way out. But it's not hard to imagine ethnic cleansing in Europe combined with ethnic strife in the Americas and ruthless Chinese colonization in Africa leading to the revival of concerns for the black race in 2100.

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60 Comments:

Anonymous stats79 December 11, 2013 9:08 AM  

In 1900, it was widely believed that the black race was inevitably headed for extinction.

Could you suggests some books where this was discussed?

Blogger Joshua Dyal December 11, 2013 9:20 AM  

A much better solution than mass immigration into America is to go the Saudi Arabia route. A conceptual Liberia, if not actual Liberia.

Blogger James Dixon December 11, 2013 9:31 AM  

> Meanwhile, in the case of blacks, the weighted crime correlations have steadily risen from 0.60 to around 0.80 or above, almost always now falling within between 0.75 and 0.85.

And here you have a perfect example of an argument which Scalzi would refuse to follow, instead arguing that "the ground level assumptions are complete shit".

If you start with the ground level assumption that all races are equal in all ways, then any argument which reaches a different conclusion is obviously in error and not worth following. As for observed reality, well, we know how much of the observed reality the article is discussing they allow themselves to be exposed to, don't we?

Blogger dlstacy December 11, 2013 9:47 AM  

...ruthless Chinese colonization in Africa...

Draka reloaded? there's an interesting thought, very plausible, considering current chinese investment.

Anonymous Stilicho December 11, 2013 9:49 AM  

The Romans tried a similar policy with some of the barbarian tribes, using "friendly" tribes against others who were less friendly. They even had some success. Until the Visigoths got tired of being used.

Anonymous YIH December 11, 2013 9:54 AM  

But it's not hard to imagine ethnic cleansing in Europe combined with ethnic strife in the Americas and ruthless Chinese colonization in Africa leading to the revival of concerns for the black race in 2100.
While the extinction of the White Rhino and other African species does sadden me, the extinction of that particular African species troubles me not.

Anonymous VryeDenker December 11, 2013 9:59 AM  

In 1900, it was widely believed that the black race was inevitably headed for extinction.

This may have well been the case if whitey didn't decide to send food and build hospitals.

Blogger rycamor December 11, 2013 9:59 AM  

So basically, because so many of the liberal elite would rather die than live in a "parochial" smaller town or city, much less in the country, we have mass immigration. Of course, the displaced black population heads for the smaller cities and towns. I suppose in their eyes that's a win/win.

Blogger rycamor December 11, 2013 9:59 AM  

I mean in the liberal elite's eyes.

Blogger rycamor December 11, 2013 10:05 AM  

The Ron Unz article, if anyone's looking for the link. I noticed that Unz has an article exploring another angle: Open Borders, American Elites, and the Minimum Wage. He argues that since lower employee wages (via supply/demand) is another incentive for the elite to encourage mass immigration, the minimum wage should be raised. While that's an interesting connection I hadn't thought of, it seems like a band-aid solution to the real problem.

Blogger Bob Wallace December 11, 2013 10:08 AM  

Margaret Sanger, she of birth control and abortion fame, wanted to use to them to completely eradicate blacks.

Anonymous Huckleberry - est. 1977 December 11, 2013 10:14 AM  

This has been the strategy in Los Angeles over the past few decades.
The Mexicans have pushed the blacks damned near into the sea or out into the desert, while the effete SWPLs follow along behind the Mexicans, chasing an authentic yet somewhat safe(r) Urban Experience.
Everyone wins.
Except the non-SWPL whites, but the elites have "fixed the glitch" so it should all just work itself out naturally...

Anonymous hygate December 11, 2013 10:17 AM  

Margaret Sanger, she of birth control and abortion fame, wanted to use to them to completely eradicate blacks.

If you mention that to a liberal the most rational response you can expect is them metaphorically sticking their fingers in their ears and screaming, "la la la, I can't hear you."

Blogger Krul December 11, 2013 10:24 AM  

One might reach the same conclusion when looking closely at the consequences of liberal policies on welfare and abortion. Never look at the selling points, look at the consequences. If the course is not subsequently changed in light of a divergence between the two, it is safe to assume that the consequences were planned from the start.

I believe it was in Liberal Fascism by Jonah Goldberg where I read the claim that the early Progressives (racist eugenics enthusiasts that they were) conceived the minimum wage as a means to keep black people from getting jobs. Possibly an example of the same, I think, and a successful one at that.

Anonymous GG December 11, 2013 10:34 AM  

"Perhaps a hidden motive along these lines does indeed help explain some support for heavy immigration, but I suspect that the race being targeted for replacement is not the white one."

Black conservatives have long suspected this was true. Welfare policies designed to "help" took black men out of families. Mandated victim status and affirmative action robbed people of their personal power. Social justice churches snuck in and usurped the benefits of Christianity.

Liberals/progressives have proven over and over again that they will destroy those they claim to care about long before they will admit they are wrong.

Anonymous The other skeptic December 11, 2013 10:50 AM  

Are the Jews striking back?

Anonymous the bandit December 11, 2013 10:58 AM  

@ rycamor

I had read that article on immigration/minimum wage and I thought the argument was flawed in coming out in support of minimum wage. He establishes that the minimum wage creates an incentive for illegal workers which is an incentive for illegal immigrants, then argues that making the illegals legal will fix it, but that's putting the cart before the horse. It seems to me more like an argument that abolishing the minimum wage would drive the illegal immigrants out because they could no longer find illegal work.

Anonymous Wald December 11, 2013 11:05 AM  

I think this link would be interesting for you, Vox. I warn you, it's a bit of a long read:

http://whitelocust.wordpress.com/morality-and-abstract-thinking-how-africans-may-differ-from-westerners/

Wald

Anonymous hygate December 11, 2013 11:05 AM  

The Ron Unz article mentions that black activists in D.C. accuse the city's white power structure of plotting to drive the blacks out of the city and replace them with whites. The D.C. media ridicules this, but over the last 30 years, huge drops in the percentage of blacks living in the city.

I suspect that their is no actual plan. No group of whites got together and said, "hey lets drive the blacks out." It wouldn't be neccesary. Since more and more money is flowing into D.C. and that is the place to go to get wealthy, the newly affluent, simply by their presence, make it too expensive for the poor to remain.

Affluent blacks are welcome, but not those with the poor taste to remain mired in poverty.

Anonymous Titus Didius Tacitus December 11, 2013 11:12 AM  

The all-important reality is an "anti-racist" drive for white genocide by mass non-white immigration and forced assimilation in all white countries and only in white countries.

This dates from well before the 1990s, is not concentrated in whites (but instead in key institutions like the mass media with a very heavy Jewish influence or outright control) and is of course global and not at all local to America or driven by concern about American blacks and the safety of elite whites in specific American cities. (It wasn't out of concern for American property values in the 1990s that "progressive" opinion in the 1960s demanded the end of the White Australia Policy, comprehensive sanctions against South Africa and Rhodesia, and eventually power to Robert Mugabe over all other aspirants to rule Zimbabwe.)

So this is rubbish:

"Perhaps a hidden motive along these lines does indeed help explain some support for heavy immigration, but I suspect that the race being targeted for replacement is not the white one."

Anonymous Feh December 11, 2013 11:15 AM  

Of course, the displaced black population heads for the smaller cities and towns.

Nah. They go to the big city suburbs courtesy of Section 8.

Anonymous hygate December 11, 2013 11:23 AM  

I recall seeing an article regarding section 8 housing in the suburbs. It involved urban youth moving to majority black suburbs and engaging in behaviours that were not appreciated by their more prosperous neighbors.

There was a lot of hemming and hawing about a clash of cultures but most of the affluent blacks comments can be paraphrased as, "I moved here to get away from that kind of shit."

Anonymous My Name Is Earl December 11, 2013 11:40 AM  

It's getting to where a cracker can't even brew himself up a little batch of meth in peace anymore.

Anonymous JI December 11, 2013 11:47 AM  

There is one thing wrong with this theory - Why haven't the elites proposed the simplest, easiest solution? Give the Blacks the same deal as has been given to the Indians. That is, the Indians are given monthly checks as well as access to medical clinics, housing assistance, and so forth, as long as they live on the reservation. This has worked wonders for keeping the Indians passivated.

Progressives, not conservatives for obvious reasons, could suggest that, because Blacks were historically harmed to degree commensurate with that suffered by the Indians, and both suffered at the hands of the evil White Man, then the Blacks should receive similar "help". They could then suggest that "cultural enrichment zones" be created in areas in which Blacks have historical "roots" and family ties. Based on demographic maps, this would mainly be in a swathe running through parts of Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, South Carolina, plus a few places in the north-central US. Colloquially, I would refer to the southern zone as the "watermelon patch" and the northern zones as the "urban jungle".

Then the Progressives would say that, as long as Blacks live in these cultural enrichment zones, they will receive all the "benefits" that the Indians get, including that nice monthly check. But Blacks who decide to live outside the enrichment zones would get exactly the same deal as white males; that is, basically squat.

The types of Blacks who the elites do not want in their cities playing polar bear, would jump at this chance. But those who have some ambition, smarts and self-respect, i.e., exactly the type of people one wants as neighbors, would stay away from the zones and make it on their own in mainstream society.

Problem solved.

Blogger Scott December 11, 2013 11:54 AM  

This is crazy talk. Hispanics don't cancel out blacks. They don't simply disappear.

Blogger RobertT December 11, 2013 11:55 AM  

Great idea. Subject a liberal policy to the scrutiny of science based analysis. Set two liberal power bases against each other. One set of liberals with a power base to defend against all challengers against another in the exact same situation. Why did no one ever think of that? The way they.re always spouting off some fantasy truism, this shouldn't even be difficult to pull off. We should have been using this tactic all along. Then just sit back and watch as they chew each other to shreds.

Anonymous Boetain December 11, 2013 11:57 AM  

In my metro area of 2 million, we are looking to move from our "ok" zip code to one of the top zip codes in the area. I looked at the demographics and found that the percent of white folks is almost identical between the 2 areas. The mix of minorities seems to make all the difference - in this case raising the asian share by 8% and lowering the black by similar amount.

I know public schools are evil, but follow along here. They local system has all sorts of star ratings etc. Well I found that you can determine the best schools by applying a formula based on demographics, "percent with limited English fluency", and "percent on subsidized lunches". Who woulda thunk it?

Blogger IM2L844 December 11, 2013 12:07 PM  

"...a very heavy Jewish influence or outright control."

Speaking of corollaries, Titus, don't you think it is beyond odd that a subset of humanity consisting of 0.18% of the global population and a country smaller than New Jersey with virtually no strategic resources can exert such global influence and/or outright control? Seems to strain the credulous limits of fortuity.

Blogger Harold Carper December 11, 2013 12:18 PM  

Eh. I doubt it. I'm still inclined to believe whites are the target, not blacks. Why else import large numbers of central and east Africans while giving American Africans every incentive to reproduce in large numbers?

Anonymous Huckleberry - est. 1977 December 11, 2013 12:20 PM  

as long as they live on the reservation

Just what do you think the inner-cities were supposed to be?
Everything was going along according to plan until the SWPLs got tired of the suburbs and wanted to live in downtown lofts so that they could bike to work and pretend their lives were a TED Talk in action.
Until their bikes kept getting stolen and they kept getting mugged, so a change in cast was sought.
The blacks were never given the full Indian deal because the elites of a previous age wanted their labor when they thought is was worth a damn, and they wanted their votes.
The Indians just wanted to be left alone to drink and build video-poker casino empires.
This is where we are.

Blogger Harold Carper December 11, 2013 12:22 PM  

Speaking of corollaries, Titus, don't you think it is beyond odd that a subset of humanity consisting of 0.18% of the global population and a country smaller than New Jersey with virtually no strategic resources can exert such global influence and/or outright control? Seems to strain the credulous limits of fortuity.

Not really. Traditional Jewish religion and culture encourage habits and a lifestyle that increases wealth. Combine that with one of (the?) the highest average IQs in the world, and it doesn't surprise me much.

Anonymous GG December 11, 2013 12:28 PM  

"...while giving American Africans every incentive to reproduce in large numbers?"

I suspect this is simply the law of unintended consequences. There has been an effort to reduce teen pregnancy, promote abortion, provide free birth control, and abolish marriage. In response to this attempt at social control, there has also been a huge backlash. Today fathering a dozen kids from a variety of baby mamas is a status symbol.

Anonymous civilServant December 11, 2013 12:28 PM  

I suspect that the race being targeted for replacement is not the white one.

Indeed. One might reach the same conclusion when looking closely at the consequences of liberal policies on welfare and abortion.


But the political left is uniformly and openly contemptuous of lower class whites. One reads upper class Californians saying to conservative Californians "Okies go home."

Anonymous Michael Maier December 11, 2013 12:47 PM  

" Scott December 11, 2013 11:54 AM This is crazy talk. Hispanics don't cancel out blacks. They don't simply disappear."

No, they don't. Unfortunately.

I believe it was Memphis that bulldozed all the high-rise welfare towers and then discovered the new crime patterns matched the Section 8 housing subsidy maps exactly.

Spreading it out makes it less obvious and politically less of an issue. Who wants to be "THAT guy"?

Anonymous Concerned Rabbit Hunter December 11, 2013 12:53 PM  

Does this guy really know what he is talking about? Healthcare is how to save a city with lots of undesirables?

http://persquaremile.com/2013/12/11/how-to-save-dying-city/

OK, must be why the ACA was enacted.

Blogger Harold Carper December 11, 2013 12:55 PM  

There has been an effort to reduce teen pregnancy, promote abortion, provide free birth control, and abolish marriage. In response to this attempt at social control, there has also been a huge backlash.

Could be, but I still doubt it. I haven't seen any real effort to reduce teen pregnancy, only sex ed classes in grade school. Easy abortion just encourages irresponsibility, which in turn increase out-of-wedlock pregnancies. Some of those pregnancies will end in abortion, but most become cash cows for the mom cows who are then able to entertain more men and make more babies. Maybe Sanger wanted to reduce the numbers of blacks, but I think her unintended consequences were (and are) encouraged by others who understood that her efforts would have the opposite effect.

Anonymous Cryan Ryan December 11, 2013 1:06 PM  

Twas a non-racist guy who was told,
Men are all outta the same mold,
So he went on his way,
And on that very day,
A big black fella knocked him out cold.

Anonymous Breaking Muse December 11, 2013 1:07 PM  

Drudge headline:

Police: Archbishop Desmond Tutu's home robbed same day he attended memorial for Nelson Mandela

Blogger stareatgoatsies December 11, 2013 1:41 PM  

Hate to be the party-pooper but, dystopian fixations aside, teenage pregnancies have been in decline for decades and are near historic lows among all races.

Anonymous scoobius dubious December 11, 2013 1:41 PM  

"but he eventually admitted they were blacks, possibly engaged in the growing racial practice of urban “polar bear hunting” so widely publicized by the Drudge Report and other rightwing websites."

Note the language. Either the attacks happened, or else they didn't. And yet they are not said to be merely "reported as fact," but rather "widely publicized by rightwing websites."

Tells you all you need to know.

Anonymous Paul December 11, 2013 1:56 PM  

On the racist reasons behind minimum wage, both in America and abroad, there is no better authority than economist Thomas Sowell (well, Walter Williams also, but the following is from Sowell).

"In South Africa during the era of apartheid, white labor unions urged that a minimum-wage law be applied to all races, to keep black workers from taking jobs away from white unionized workers by working for less than the union pay scale.
Some supporters of the first federal minimum-wage law in the United States — the Davis-Bacon Act of 1931 — used exactly the same rationale, citing the fact that Southern construction companies, using non-union black workers, were able to come north and underbid construction companies using unionized white labor."

http://nypost.com/2013/09/17/why-racists-love-the-minimum-wage-laws/

Anonymous ZhukovG December 11, 2013 1:58 PM  

So as I understanding some of you:

1. Jews are an extremely intelligent and highly organized ethno-religious group.

2. They have been for some decades (if not centuries), been applying their amazing talents to the extermination of the group of people most responsible for their security, wealth and influence.

Now, I agree that number one is true. But based on that, I think number two is highly unlikely.

Anonymous Discard December 11, 2013 2:14 PM  

Im2L844: It may be beyond odd that this tiny group has so much power, but the fact is, they do. Jews are grossly overrepresented in positions of power and influence. This is a clearly observable as the Black affinity for violent crime. Does that also strain the limits of credibility?

Anonymous Too-Soon-ami December 11, 2013 2:16 PM  

re: racist minimum wage

You raciss if you do, an' you raciss if you don'.

If whites had insisted that only whites get the minimum wage, and blacks get paid dirt, then they be raciss. But if whites insist that blacks get paid equally, then they be raciss -- because nobody in their right mind would pay $X.XX for a black, when they could get a superior white for the same money.

It's somewhat shameful, but not surprising, that two black "conservative" economists would play the race card in their unending cheerleading for global free trade.

Anonymous Too-Soon-ami December 11, 2013 2:26 PM  

ZhukovG,

The policies they have been promoting and pushing from their positions of power in politics, finance, media, academia, and the courts, for the last several decades, have been undeniably detrimental to the Western societies in which they live and thrive.

Either they (a) are stupid, shortsighted, and even blind to the hindsight of 40 years, or (b) they know what's happening, are fine with it, and plan to jump our ship before it finally sinks, and repeat the process somewhere else.

Anonymous The Interminable Adventures of Mister Goofball December 11, 2013 2:51 PM  

"I agree that number one is true. But based on that, I think number two is highly unlikely."

Not at all. It's simply a biological, natural process. Frog/scorpion, that sort of thing. Parasites frequently wind up killing their hosts, even though it's not in their long-term interest. Jews (as a group, not necessarily as individuals) have a bizarre frothing irrational hatred/envy/contempt/superiority complex when it comes to whites, Christians, and Christian whites. The irrational urge to destroy is stronger than the rational urge to find a modus vivendi. Not optimal, but also not surprising. A small number of Bolshevik Jews eagerly killed more Christian Europeans in roughly a decade, than all the Jews killed in all the pogroms and explusions, (and certainly more than all the alleged pogroms), in all of Europe, for all of history. Think about that for a second. Also consider the insane, false, toxic, utterly distorted and self-serving history which they tell themselves. Is there such a thing as self-hypnosis? It would explain a lot.

Anonymous Idle Spectator December 11, 2013 2:57 PM  

2. They have been for some decades (if not centuries), been applying their amazing talents to the extermination of the group of people most responsible for their security, wealth and influence.

Now, was that before or after the nice white people had anti-Jewish quotas, executed the pogroms, and had the Jews isolated in ghettos?

Blogger Whiskey December 11, 2013 3:15 PM  

Given that non-Whites HATE HATE HATE HATE Jews more than even WWII Germans, Jewish "conspiracy" to make say, Iceland and Ireland (two places notably absent of Jews) along with Germany (ditto) is laughable. Its like the Church Lady on SNL yelling "Satan!" A catch all theory designed to avoid thinking and allowing the luxury of hate.

Irish Savant, for example, makes the laughable assertion that Ireland is controlled by "the Jews."

Rather, this non-White worship is a function of elites abandoning traditional Christianity for a post-Christian religion of Black Jesus, 2.0. Original White sin and Black redemption. Sacred NAM single mother replaces Mary. This gives meaning to otherwise utterly empty lives (see Seinfeld for a exploration of the urban elite, Jewish and otherwise, living utterly empty and meaningless lives). And it provides status-mongering the #1 concern of urban White elites. See any Apple ad, luxury ads in the WSJ, etc.

The biggest solution to illegal immigration would be to force any illegal to be paid say, $70 an hour, retroactively if need be, and allow private attorneys to force this for any individual and company, with extremely generous payouts on top of the wages. Thus, if any person or company hired illegals, they'd be on the hook for the whole amount plus the payoffs to private bounty hunters, attorneys, who are Dems favorite interest group and of whom, many are hurting and desperate (there is an oversupply of lawyers).

Chipotley COULD hire illegals, but they'd pay them the going rate for experienced master plumbers or auto mechanics. Plus a huge bonus to the private attorney who sued.

Blogger Whiskey December 11, 2013 3:25 PM  

I will follow on that I don't believe in perfect, global, decades spanning conspiracies that remain forever silent, because of the human nature of bragging, boasting, settling scores, and needing money. We know it was Mark Felt, not a huge liberal, that undid Nixon, as Deep Throat, and spoon fed the Woodward and Bernstein duo, out of spite because he was not named FBI head after Hoover died.

Similar score-settling, gossiping, boasting, etc. has come out of the Soviet side after the fall of the USSR, Ralph Abernathy's book written in the 1980's amounts to how HE not Jessie Jackson was the true heir to King (and in the process makes King look bad confirming his womanizing and abuse of his many married White mistresses).

If there was some global Jewish conspiracy over decades, rest assured that there would be quite a number of Jews willing to score-settle, gossip, boast, and otherwise spill the beans because high IQ does not make you less human, rather more so.

Meanwhile you can look at the writings of say, Arthur Conan Doyle (he has two stories excoriating the Klan and exalting non-Blacks in the Sherlock Holmes canon, as well as one also promoting Black male/White female pairings) in the 19th Century to see the worship of non-Whites among Christians.

Non-White worship is inherent in Christianity. It is in its very nature. It is part and parcel of missionary work, global aspirations, and universalism. Livingstone in the Congo, Methodists in Hawaii, Mormons in Zimbabwe, it is a Christian flaw. For all of that Christianity is socially necessary and better than all other religions, but it is not without its innate flaws. Its better than worshiping Odin or a tree, but still has that problem. Neither Mary nor Jesus were Europeans. But Middle Easterners. If you worship an aspect of God that is non-White, it is one small step to worshiping non-Whites generally.

Blogger IM2L844 December 11, 2013 3:28 PM  

Does that also strain the limits of credibility?

No, but that's not what I said. It does, however, strain the limits of pure happenstance. Meaning it's not strictly coincidental. It is an observable effect. The cause is not wholly unambiguous.

Blogger Some dude December 11, 2013 4:03 PM  

This is a great post, and makes tremendous sense. I wonder if the elites in question are even consciously aware of why they are taking these stances.

But I have one question. Given his explanation for the unconscious motivation among US elites in replacing the black underclass with immigrant hordes, why then are the British elites doing the same thing in their country?

Anonymous scoobius dubious December 11, 2013 4:04 PM  

Whiskey --

as always, you're an idiot. Or a false-flag liar/operator. Or both.

In any event, STOP TALKING.

Anonymous Jewish Spectator December 11, 2013 4:15 PM  

Given that non-Whites HATE HATE HATE HATE Jews more than even WWII Germans, Jewish "conspiracy" to make say, Iceland and Ireland (two places notably absent of Jews) along with Germany (ditto) is laughable. Its like the Church Lady on SNL yelling "Satan!" A catch all theory designed to avoid thinking and allowing the luxury of hate.

Who gives a shit what they think? They don't make policy. And I don't think Jews hang heavily to the right-wing with border restriction. Jewish Membership in Congress at All-Time High

About 2 percent of Americans identify themselves as Jewish. But in Congress, the proportion of Jewish members is now four times that. Six new Jewish House members were sworn in last week, bringing the total to 30.

8%? That is more than enough to swing any vote. I believe Vox put it at 5% of a minority making an impact.

What's more, the new Jewish Democrats hail from states hardly seen as Jewish strongholds, including Tennessee, Kentucky, New Hampshire and Wisconsin.

We have a Jew representing Kentucky? That should go real well...

...but Jewish voters, traditionally Democratic, have moved ever further from the GOP in recent years. In the midterm elections, nearly 90 percent of Jewish voters voted Democratic, according to exit polls, one of the largest proportions in history.

I believe only African-Americans vote more monolithically. Should we thank Jews for Obama? Thanks Jews!


Also the ability of Jews to pass themselves off as white gives them an added advantage to other groups. Unless I know the surname, sometimes it is impossible to tell. Smith, probably not a Jew. Goldstein, most likely.

And it provides status-mongering the #1 concern of urban White elites.

Here's a hint: Seinfeld is not white. Nor is Larry David, the co-creator.


Rather, this non-White worship is a function of elites abandoning traditional Christianity for a post-Christian religion of Black Jesus, 2.0. Original White sin and Black redemption.

That's interesting argument. Now, who makes up elites, and do you think that not being Christian in the first place might speed that idea along? Have you heard the Jewish expression "Tikkun olam"?


In 2011, only 50-100 Jews were living in the country. They often gather to celebrate the Jewish holidays.

Now, do you think that might limit Jewish ability to flood Iceland with immigrants?

OpenID thetroll December 11, 2013 4:59 PM  

> Its better than worshiping Odin

Oh, I don't know about that. To the extent I bother with entertaining any form of spiritual guidance, which is barely discernible, I follow the Asatru Noble Virtues:

http://ecer-org.eu/nine-noble-virtues-of-asatru/

Those seem to me as close to an optimal set of values one's religion should inspire one to as you could ask for, and a great deal more optimal than any mainstream Christian brand professes these days.

So don't think you can beat worshiping Odin for sound practical spiritual guidance, actually...

Anonymous Heh December 11, 2013 7:40 PM  

it's not hard to imagine ethnic cleansing in Europe combined with ethnic strife in the Americas and ruthless Chinese colonization in Africa leading to the revival of concerns for the black race in 2100.

Faster, please!

Anonymous 11B December 11, 2013 7:44 PM  

Whiskey has constantly commented that our ills are a result of "post-Christian" peoples. On iSteve he repeats this ad nauseam. What is funny is that in the past couple days, he has singled out members of the MSM who have scribed anti-white articles as being representative of this "post-Christian" world. Yet in all three cases, the guys he singled out where not Christian, post-Christian, or even gentile. It is funny because he works so hard to defend one ethnic group, but then helps to incriminate them with his examples.

For what it is worth, the guys he mentioned as being "post-Christian" were Simon Kuper, Gideon Rachman and Jonathan Chait.

Anonymous Heh December 11, 2013 7:45 PM  

@11B,

Technically the group he's actually talking about is "pre-Christian"...

Anonymous Titus Didius Tacitus December 11, 2013 11:42 PM  

Heh: "Technically the group he's actually talking about is "pre-Christian"...

They intend to be post-Christian too.

OpenID panelvan69 December 12, 2013 1:35 AM  

Unz is quite the statistician; however, his claim that brown crime occurs at the same level as white crime does not align with reality. Not here in California anyhow. Central Valley towns used to look like Lucas' American Graffiti; now they look like East Los Angeles.

Anonymous . December 12, 2013 7:27 AM  

@Panel,

Crime =/= squalor.

In theory, anyway.

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