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Monday, January 27, 2014

Lapine spells

Oswald Spengler had the rabbits pegged in The Decline of the West. He explains why they are so prone to not only name-calling, but viewing name-calling as sufficient to make a case against a perceived foe.

"The world-fear is stilled when an intellectual form-language hammers out brazen vessels in which the mysterious is captured and made comprehensible. This is the idea of "taboo" which plays a decisive part in the spiritual life of all primitive men,  though the original content of the word lies so far from us that it is incapable of any translation into any ripe culture-language. Blind terror, religious awe, deep loneliness, melancholy, hate, obscure impulses to draw near, to be merged, to escape - all those formed feelings of mature souls are in the childish condition blurred in a monotonous indecision."

Rabbits are not merely barbarians, but primitives. Thus the incantation "homophobe" is considered enough to banish the moralistic thought-criminal, even as the magic spell "raciss" is deemed sufficient to banish the ethno-cultural thought-criminal.

Spengler even offers an explanation for why they cannot create anything original, but more on that another time. But in the meantime, Kalel points out that Bradbury, too, identified the Nothing People:

"For these beings, fall is ever the normal season, the only weather, there be no choice beyond. Where do they come from? The dust. Where do they go? The grave. Does blood stir their veins? No: the night wind. What ticks in their head? The worm. What speaks from their mouth? The toad. What sees from their eye? The snake. What hears with their ear? The abyss between the stars. They sift the human storm for souls, eat flesh of reason, fill tombs with sinners. They frenzy forth....Such are the autumn people."

Autumn is such a beautiful time of year that it seems a travesty to identify them by that noble name. I prefer to think of them as the Nothing People, the empty-eyed, soulless creatures of the Abyss. But it is fascinating to me to see how thinkers, philosophers, and artists have all observed the same phenomenon in certain people around them.

Alhough it is ironic. Who would have ever imagined that the Wicked in Something Wicked This Way Comes would turn out to be the hollow and petty evil that is perhaps best exemplified today by the likes of John Scalzi and the shambling shoggoths of the SFWA.

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Blogger CarpeOro January 27, 2014 4:18 PM  

There is after all a book titled "The Banality of Evil". Evil can come in extremely petty form.

Blogger J Curtis January 27, 2014 4:34 PM  

LOVED this recent entry in The Federalist...

You’re A Racist. And There’s Nothing You Can Do About It

Blogger J Curtis January 27, 2014 4:36 PM  

Last link didn't go through..

You’re A Racist. And There’s Nothing You Can Do About It

Anonymous Erik January 27, 2014 4:38 PM  

Tying a link: this namecalling sounds similar to Unwin on Zoism:
"A zoistic society has no religious beliefs – it is not that they do not believe in the supernatural, but rather that they do not believe in the natural. At a zoistic level of culture all influential and high prestige people engage in magical thinking, attributing to themselves and other people capabilities rationalists would consider supernatural. They dispose of the dead like garbage, and do not tend the graves of the dead."
Jim expounds:
"The distinguishing feature of Zoistic thinking is that mere desire or belief is sufficient to allegedly be the cause of the effect, without any need for the Zoist to provide a material explanation of cause and effect. Bad beliefs supposedly lead directly to bad outcomes and good beliefs supposedly lead directly to good outcomes without any real effort to provide a material account of belief causing actions and actions directly causing effects. Thus, for example, black criminality and female unreliability is supposedly caused by people expecting blacks to be criminal and females unreliable."

Anonymous John Glanton January 27, 2014 4:40 PM  

The closing bit there reminds me of a passage from "The Ballad of the White Horse" by Chesterton. King Alfred's already defeated the Danes and saved England, but he's prophesying about the inevitable return of chaos and heathenry:

"I know that weeds shall grow in it
Faster than men can burn;
And though they scatter now and go,
In some far century, sad and slow,
I have a vision, and I know
The heathen shall return.

"They shall not come with warships,
They shall not waste with brands,
But books be all their eating,
And ink be on their hands.

"Not with the humour of hunters
Or savage skill in war,
But ordering all things with dead words,
Strings shall they make of beasts and birds,
And wheels of wind and star.

"They shall come mild as monkish clerks,
With many a scroll and pen;
And backward shall ye turn and gaze,
Desiring one of Alfred's days,
When pagans still were men."

That's the passage I think about when I see the sad, plump little spectacle of guy like Scalzi. Ah, for one of Alfred's days.

Anonymous Jack Amok January 27, 2014 4:56 PM  

Autumn is such a beautiful time of year that it seems a travesty to identify them by that noble name.

Every season is beautiful in it's own way, even winter with it's stark emptiness and the feeling of walking through a world where creation has not yet finished. But the Autumn People, well, in a way it fits because they treat the world as a place to gather resources from, not a place to tend and nurture.

They skipped the planting of spring and the weeding and watering of summer. They're possibly willing to do the work of harvesting in the fall, but they aren't willing to credit the farmer for all the work he did to husband the crops. And they keep each other in line with frighening stories of the cold winter ahead.

Anonymous Scooter Downey/Christian in Hollyweird January 27, 2014 4:56 PM  

An atmosphere of cowardice pervades the modern age. It's a terrible sin, the root of most of our current woes. We have become C.S. Lewis's "Men Without Chests". I know because I sense it in myself at times. In this craven darkness the light of courageous men like Edward Snowden shines the brighter, and lovers of the light are drawn to its luster. We need to be bold men of Christ, and hang together, or we will surely hang alone.

Blogger JartStar January 27, 2014 5:24 PM  

No need to insult the best season of the year.

I find that whenever I stop asking myself if my actions are good I stumble into darkness and once again have find the light to get out. If you deny that good exists you can't even ask the question, and all you can do is stumble in the dark and rage against the painful and frightening light.

Blogger Subversive Saint January 27, 2014 5:51 PM  

Ecclesiastes 1:9
What has been will be again, what has been done will be done again; there is nothing new under the sun.

Anonymous LeeS January 27, 2014 5:54 PM  

I thought Ayn Rand explained this 72 years ago -

"Mr. Roark, we’re alone here. Why don’t you tell me what you think of me? In any words you wish. No one will hear us."

"But I don’t think of you."

Ellsworth Toohey and Howard Roark

Blogger JCclimber January 27, 2014 5:54 PM  

Best season of the year is spring. The renewal, creation, life burgeoning fresh from the ground and the sky.

Not putting down fall and the harvest season, it has its charms, but give me a break.

On a related topic I just started Something Wicked a couple weeks ago, going to have to get around to finishing it sometime this week.

Anonymous Maximo Macaroni January 27, 2014 6:07 PM  

All men have a religion. If they do not have a developed and thoughtful religion like Christianity, they will have a savage and fearful religion, devoid of hope. Spengler's portrayal of Judaism and Islam as religions of darkness and enclosed spaces was clarified beautifully by Chesterton in "The Cross and the Ball", where he portrayed Christianity as the philosophy of limitless realms of thought.

Anonymous supergenius January 27, 2014 6:26 PM  

Everyone is stupid and crazy except for me and my friends blah blah blah

Shits getting boring bro.

Blogger Outlaw X January 27, 2014 7:20 PM  

Has anyone besides me noticed the pattern of late that the liars are being exposed and realized by many, not just here but on many occasion. Alex Jones says Obama is on a purge of reporters but I think the politicians, bankers and liars are about to feel the purge. And to be clear I mean disowned, not believed and put aside in the minds of thinking people which is growing. Something spiritual is going on and I don't have an explanation.

Anonymous zen0 January 27, 2014 7:21 PM  

@ supergenius

Everyone is stupid and crazy except for me and my friends blah blah blah

Shits getting boring bro.


You are a bad student. Primitive or barbaric does not equal crazy.
Hanging around where you are bored , when you do not have to.....
that's crazy.

Brother.

Anonymous Jerry's Mom January 27, 2014 7:24 PM  

"Spengler's portrayal of Judaism and Islam as religions of darkness and enclosed spaces was clarified beautifully by Chesterton in "The Cross and the Ball", where he portrayed Christianity as the philosophy of limitless realms of thought."

You can go anywhere and everywhere without having to worry about truth or reality when fantasy is at play.

Anonymous sawtooth January 27, 2014 7:26 PM  

"Shits getting boring bro."

There's a video of a house cat attacking its own image in the mirror on Youtube.

Maybe that is more in line with what you might consider compelling entertainment.

Anonymous zen0 January 27, 2014 7:26 PM  

Something spiritual is going on and I don't have an explanation.

I think you are correct.

Maybe it is the one that was prophesied.

Anonymous Jerry's Mom January 27, 2014 7:32 PM  

"Something spiritual is going on and I don't have an explanation."

It sure is. People across the globe and shedding their veil of ignorance and throwing out the evil dictates and distasteful demands of theism. It is a real spiritual enlightenment.

Blogger Outlaw X January 27, 2014 7:37 PM  

It sure is. People across the globe and shedding their veil of ignorance and throwing out the evil dictates and distasteful demands of theism. It is a real spiritual enlightenment

You haven't been paying attention have you? I can see it as easy as getting out of bed and waking up. The slumber seems to be coming to an end for a large section of society.

Anonymous X Outlaw January 27, 2014 7:41 PM  

"I can see it as easy as getting out of bed and waking up. The slumber seems to be coming to an end for a large section of society."

How many people do you interact with?

Blogger Outlaw X January 27, 2014 7:41 PM  

I am going to test Vox's theory on this which may be what I am seeing, when the economy goes to Hell people return to God. I paraphrase and don't do t justice to it but will be watching fashion and the shunning of pop culture.

Blogger Outlaw X January 27, 2014 7:43 PM  

How many people do you interact with?

Irrelevant, there is something called the internet, try using it.

Anonymous X Outlaw January 27, 2014 7:46 PM  

How do you poll a "large section of society" using the Internet? I think what is more likely is your "favorites" tell you what you want them to tell them.

Blogger Outlaw X January 27, 2014 7:52 PM  

How do you poll a "large section of society" using the Internet? I think what is more likely is your "favorites" tell you what you want them to tell them.

Looks like a nerve has been hit, my pattern recognition almost never fails me. Are you afraid of people wakening? This has got to scare the crap out of the liars, I suspect.

Anonymous X Outlaw January 27, 2014 7:53 PM  

Are you afraid of people wakening

Not in the least, I love that part in the Sci-Fi/Fantasy Classic Dune where they say "The sleeper must awaken". Let me guess, Drudge, the Blaze? I'm sure there are others...

Anonymous Jack Amok January 27, 2014 7:54 PM  

Has anyone noticed a pattern to these troll blooms? Are they linked with a lunar cycle, or the weather in D.C. or something?

Anonymous Jerry's Mom January 27, 2014 8:02 PM  

"Has anyone noticed a pattern to these troll blooms? Are they linked with a lunar cycle, or the weather in D.C. or something?"

Trolls? "They have a view different than mine. They must be trolls". Or "They don't agree with me, they must be trolls".

It is the most tired excuse for a retort there is. Perhaps its a matter of people being pointed to a inelegant form of stupidity, the kind that begins with faith in nothing called something and then morphing into a wholesale denigration of people who are not known by the evil folk that seek to demonize.

Do you know what more people laugh about every day?? The Christians claiming they are being put upon, and discriminated against and that there is a war against them. For people with the most ludicrous and damaging ideology, you are actually left alone. But when someone challenges you...."oh, no...Oh deal...Trolls, Trolls." It's a sign my dear, this yelling of "trolls". It's a sign you have no ability whatsoever to explain yourself, let alone respond to a challenge with intelligence.

Anonymous supergenius January 27, 2014 8:04 PM  

It's so cute the way believers see spiritual forces at work behind every lamp shade.

They crave the mystical, because their inner life is so goddamned dull and dreary.

Blogger Random January 27, 2014 8:24 PM  

throwing out the evil dictates and distasteful demands of theism.

Self control, self sacrifice, purity, honesty, obedience, loyalty--yeah, those evil dictates should be thrown out post haste.

Besides, what more do you atheists want? Abortion on demand, no-fault divorce, free love, open licentiousness and debauchery, all are freely available and unrestricted in the modern west.

It's a nihilist's paradise! Stop bothering the traditionalists and go out and enjoy yourself. I mean, you have no eternal consequences to worry about, right?

Right?

Anonymous Transcription Factor kh123 January 27, 2014 8:25 PM  

No no, it's DNA. And we dance to it - sometimes especially when we drop comments on hateful, hateful blogs. Get your narrative straight.

Anonymous Anti-Democracy Activist January 27, 2014 8:38 PM  

Like Moldbug said, we need a better class of critic. You know, one that's capable of more than calling names and spouting slogans.

Blogger tz January 27, 2014 8:45 PM  

Alhough it is ironic. Who would have ever imagined that the Wicked in Something Wicked This Way Comes would turn out to be the hollow and petty evil that is perhaps best exemplified today by the likes of John Scalzi and the shambling shoggoths of the SFWA.

C.S. Lewis, in the appendix, "Screwtape proposes a toast".

Your dreaded Principal has included in a speech full of points something like an apology for the banquet which he has set before us. Well, gentledevils, no one blames him. But it would be in vain to deny that the human souls on whose anguish we have been feasting tonight were of pretty poor quality. Not all the most skillful cookery of our tormentors could make them better than insipid.

Oh, to get one’s teeth again into a Farinata, a Henry VIII, or even a Hitler! There was real crackling there; something to crunch; a rage, an egotism, a cruelty only just less robust than our own. It put up a delicious resistance to being devoured. It warmed your inwards when you’d got it down.

Instead of this, what have we had tonight? There was a municipal authority with Graft sauce. But personally I could not detect in him the flavour of a really passionate and brutal avarice such as delighted one in the great tycoons of the last century. Was he not unmistakably a Little Man — a creature of the petty rake-off pocketed with a petty joke in private and denied with the stalest platitudes in his public utterances — a grubby little nonentity who had drifted into corruption, only just realizing that he was corrupt, and chiefly because everyone else did it? Then there was the lukewarm Casserole of Adulterers. Could you find in it any trace of a fully inflamed, defiant, rebellious, insatiable lust? I couldn’t. They all tasted to me like undersexed morons who had blundered or trickled into the wrong beds in automatic response to sexy advertisements, or to make themselves feel modern and emancipated, or to reassure themselves about their virility or their “normalcy,” or even because they had nothing else to do. Frankly, to me who have tasted Messalina and Cassanova, they were nauseating. The Trade Unionist stuffed with sedition was perhaps a shade better. He had done some real harm. He had, not quite unknowingly, worked for bloodshed, famine, and the extinction of liberty. Yes, in a way. But what a way! He thought of those ultimate objectives so little. Toeing the party line, self-importance, and above all mere routine, were what really dominated his life.

But now comes the point. Gastronomically, all this is deplorable. But I hope none of us puts gastronomy first. Is it not, in another and far more serious way, full of hope and promise?

Consider, first, the mere quantity. The quality may be wretched; but we never had souls (of a sort) in more abundance.

And then the triumph. We are tempted to say that such souls — or such residual puddles of what once was soul — are hardly worth damning. Yes, but the Enemy (for whatever inscrutable and perverse reason) thought them worth trying to save. Believe me, He did. You youngsters who have not yet been on active duty have no idea with what labour, with what delicate skill, each of these miserable creatures was finally captured.

The difficulty lay in their very smallness and flabbiness. Here were vermin so muddled in mind, so passively responsive to environment, that it was very hard to raise them to that level of clarity and deliberateness at which mortal sin becomes possible. To raise them just enough; but not that fatal millimetre of “too much.” For then, of course, all would possibly have been lost. They might have seen; they might have repented. On the other hand, if they had been raised too little, they would very possibly have qualified for Limbo, as creatures suitable neither for Heaven nor for Hell; things that, having failed to make the grade, are allowed to sink into a more or less contented subhumanity forever.

Anonymous 88419 January 27, 2014 9:05 PM  

S.I Hayakawa called it "word magic" as if to summon the language had powerful properties in the word itself.

Anonymous Obvious January 27, 2014 9:22 PM  

Are you really accusing others of name calling when you've created an entire derogatory term to apply to people? Also, turned the name of someone you don't like ITSELF into a derogatory term, which you use to denigrate others with?

Anonymous Jack Amok January 27, 2014 9:22 PM  

Trolls? "They have a view different than mine. They must be trolls". Or "They don't agree with me, they must be trolls".

It's not what you believe that makes you a troll. It's how you act. And jjust so you know, since you appear to be yet another drive-by with no idea who any of us are - I'm not a believer. I'm an agnostic. I don't give a rat's ass what you do or don't believe. I care about how you act, and you act like an Ass of the First Water. You have no respect for anyone else's opinion, and so I have no respect for yours.

What is it that brought you here and why are you posting on this thread? What do you hope to accomplish, and what is your strategy for accomplishing it?

Blogger tz January 27, 2014 9:32 PM  

"It ain't bragging if you can do it".

It ain't "derogatory" if it is true in both essence and application.

"Dead" cannot be a derogatory term when applied to a zombie.

This and the "Nothing People" posts are bits of the same thing.

It is not so much Autumn as Halloween, when Druids celebrated (!) the "Death of the Year".

If the labels in the post derogatory, then "vandal" would be a derogatory term for those who threw stones and bricks and smashed glass during Kristallnacht. A worse term would be more appropriate.

These soulless rabbits are smashing civilization itself.

Anonymous Godfrey January 27, 2014 9:35 PM  

@supergenius January 27, 2014 8:04 PM
"It's so cute the way believers see spiritual forces at work behind every lamp shade. They crave the mystical, because their inner life is so goddamned dull and dreary."


[chuckling]... you're obviously projecting. What do you believe in? I bet you believe in The State and the future secular egalitarian utopia. Most "atheists" ardently believe in such silly nonsense. Are you an exception?

Oh... and I've never met an atheist that wasn't shallow, unhappy and dull.

Anonymous Sir sir Hrud January 27, 2014 9:39 PM  

Tz, saving civilization, one asinine blog post at a time,

Anonymous zen0 January 27, 2014 9:41 PM  

@ Jerry's mom

For people with the most ludicrous and damaging ideology, you are actually left alone.


Here is and example of the New World Order Jerry didn't tell you about:

Christians kill 65

Anonymous zen0 January 27, 2014 10:01 PM  

Sir sir Hrud January 27, 2014 9:39 PM

Tz, saving civilization, one asinine blog post at a time,


Do you prefer destroying civilization one asinine blog post at a time?

Well, do you, punk?

Anonymous zen0 January 27, 2014 10:04 PM  

supergenius January 27, 2014 8:04 PM

It's so cute the way believers see spiritual forces at work behind every lamp shade.

They crave the mystical, because their inner life is so goddamned dull and dreary.


Desperate projection, bro? A cry for help?

Don't look at me. Deal with your own empty shit.

Anonymous Pseudo-Nate January 27, 2014 10:11 PM  

Semi OT but Rabbity:

The new Harassment Policy saves the day at Arisia.

But in a stunning turn of events, this Girl is an ultramassive kook of the greatest proportions. I'm frankly shocked that this would be the kind of woman to take advantage of a policy like that to work out her own personal issues on the world at large.

Anonymous supergenius January 27, 2014 10:14 PM  

This is so dull I don't want to muster up even a token retort.

Is this an example of that marvelous theist originality I've heard so much about? Excuse me while I stifle a mighty yawn.

Anonymous zen0 January 27, 2014 10:17 PM  

Semi OT but Rabbity:

Dude.

Did you not notice that there was a battle going on with the forces of darkness here, and you come in to interrupt with some totally OT about some crazy bitch?

Dude.

Anonymous Pseudo-Nate January 27, 2014 10:21 PM  

lol i'm late to the party, zen0, apologies for the combo break. I just thought the ilk never say know to a new punching bag, being the cruel bunch they are. Didn't realize they had their hands full working the ones they had.

Anonymous zen0 January 27, 2014 10:24 PM  

supergenius January 27, 2014 10:14 PM

This is so dull I don't want to muster up even a token retort.

Is this an example of that marvelous theist originality I've heard so much about? Excuse me while I stifle a mighty yawn.


So you say you will not even offer a token retort, but you retort nevertheless?

The audience is not as stupid as you would hope. You have proven to be an obvious liar and charlatan, so your pronouncements can only be considered untrustworthy.

Anonymous supergenius January 27, 2014 10:43 PM  

It's wasn't a retort, just a question to the audience . I noticed I struck a nerve with that other comment though, bro.

Anonymous Harsh January 27, 2014 10:45 PM  

Excuse me while I stifle a mighty yawn.

You do that, friend. You're impressing no one and you have nothing.

Anonymous zen0 January 27, 2014 10:53 PM  

supergenius January 27, 2014 10:43 PM

It's wasn't a retort, just a question to the audience . I noticed I struck a nerve with that other comment though, bro.


It was a retort, and lame at that. Don't play the pathetic card.
I am not saying it is beneath you, just that it is pathetic.


Blogger Outlaw X January 27, 2014 10:53 PM  

The Final Battle will be in Westphalia according to old Catholic prophets, but it won't be a war as we see it today. It is unfolding now, then the age of peace. The liars are losing the battle and the battle is for the souls of men, for the dark side traffics in the souls of men with their pop culture, lies and the denial of Jesus Christ and the light will pierce the darkness.

Anonymous supergenius January 27, 2014 11:00 PM  

Not sure what you want here, how about:

Um, no?

Anonymous zen0 January 27, 2014 11:03 PM  

Um, no?

Um, yes.

Anonymous supergenius January 27, 2014 11:05 PM  

You're totally worth it!

Anonymous kh123 January 27, 2014 11:06 PM  

"Westphalia"

I kept picturing the VW van with the extendable roof. Maybe they'll be the technicals of choice, like Chad with their Toyotas.

Blogger Outlaw X January 27, 2014 11:25 PM  

I kept picturing the VW van with the extendable roof.

Prophecy, is hard to understand it started over 300 years ago.

Anonymous Jerry's Mom January 28, 2014 12:57 AM  

"They crave the mystical, because their inner life is so goddamned dull and dreary."

The one I find hilarious is this one: "Oh, woe is we? We christians are persecuted, we christians are in a war, we christians are hunted, there is a war on christianity...oh, woe is we."

It's old, no one believes it. It's just one big pity party, "PLEASE...Pitty us". Well, you are pitiful.

Anonymous Jerry's Mom January 28, 2014 12:58 AM  

"The Final Battle will be in Westphalia according to old Catholic prophets, but it won't be a war as we see it today. It is unfolding now, then the age of peace. The liars are losing the battle and the battle is for the souls of men, for the dark side traffics in the souls of men with their pop culture, lies and the denial of Jesus Christ and the light will pierce the darkness."

it's no coincidence that this sounds like something off the dusk jacket of an old abandoned fantasy novel.

Blogger buzzardist January 28, 2014 1:23 AM  

Evil is banal. Arendt put her finger on something when she made this argument. Evil, particularly in our modern world, is dull and hollow, the sort of thing that is perpetrated by a lot of nobodies who have stripped themselves of their ability to act as moral creatures. They are not great men, heroes, or anti-heroes of any sort. The face of evil is the sort of people who are likely to be forgotten as soon as they die, if not sooner. They seem like they should be harmless, and yet they can and will destroy anything in their path.

Anonymous ApolloK January 28, 2014 1:25 AM  

They crave the mystical, because their inner life is so goddamned dull and dreary.

Reading this kind of tripe actually strengthens my faith. Half a decade ago I wouldn't have even cared, but now I see a statement like that and sincerely pray "supergenius" and suchlike can someday know what it's like for life to have meaning.

Blogger Outlaw X January 28, 2014 1:27 AM  

JM, never mind I a not telling you anything.

Anonymous Jerry's Mom January 28, 2014 1:36 AM  

"but now I see a statement like that and sincerely pray "supergenius" and suchlike can someday know what it's like for life to have meaning."

See this is the kind of thing that gets people laughing at and pitying many christians and why someone might be compelled to comment here. And all you have to do to understand why is ponder this question: How could you possibly have any idea what gives someone else's life meaning, let alone think you know that they find no meaning in life? How do you muster that kind of ignorance and hubris. I chalk it up to your ideology of fanciful god fetish.

Anonymous Jerry's Mom January 28, 2014 1:36 AM  

"JM, never mind I a not telling you anything."

Thank goodness, as it's been made clear your opinions are based on bad fantasy novels.

Blogger Outlaw X January 28, 2014 1:39 AM  

Thank goodness, as it's been made clear your opinions are based on bad fantasy novels.

Yeah, that is all it was. A bad phantasy novel. You got me.

Anonymous kh123 January 28, 2014 1:57 AM  

In the meantime: For everyone's edification.

Blogger JCclimber January 28, 2014 2:07 AM  

Christians really aren't persecuted in America.

But in a significant portion of the world, their lives, freedoms and families are in constant jeopardy. So I snort a little when I see Americans highlighting some "persecution" or another in America, like removing the 10 Commandments from a courthouse or not being able to display a nativity scene.

Yeah, really tough persecution. Tell that to the Protestants in mostly Catholic countries, or Christians in muslim countries. Or worst, Christians in atheist countries like North Korea.

Anonymous VD January 28, 2014 3:15 AM  

Are you really accusing others of name calling when you've created an entire derogatory term to apply to people?

I suggest you re-read what Spengler wrote. The point isn't name-calling, the point is name-calling that is expected to BE the argument. "Rabbit" is a description, an observation. "Transphobic" is an argument in itself, a magical and conclusive one.

Anonymous Peter Garstig January 28, 2014 3:30 AM  

Not sure what you want here, how about:

Um, no?


Being evasive or non-grabbable might seem like a virtue, but all it displays is lack of courage and not having an opinion that is defensible.

Anonymous A Plate of Shrimp January 28, 2014 4:13 AM  

Ugh.

Anonymous Samuel Scott January 28, 2014 5:10 AM  

Just to be fair, there is a lot of name-calling on the right as well. Who else remembers the slow change from "Democratic Party" to "Democrat Party" that Fox News instituted since its creation in 1996? If someone says "Democrat Party," you can say with 99% confidence that he watches only Fox News.

And I won't even go into the childish radio talk-show hosts that call them "Dummycrats" and so on.

This is what happens when political discourse declines to the point where it's "my team is always right and smart and moral, no matter what, and the other side is wrong and dumb and evil." Sigh.

Anonymous VD January 28, 2014 5:45 AM  

This is what happens when political discourse declines to the point where it's "my team is always right and smart and moral, no matter what, and the other side is wrong and dumb and evil."

Sam, you are also missing the point. That's not what Spengler is discussing. It's not a my team vs the other team thing. Even a midwitted Fox News guy can EXPLAIN why he calls Democrats "Dummycrats". He understands the opposition and what it wants to do. It's an insult, not a taboo.

Someone who tries to argue by crying raciss or Holocaust or transphobe is appealing to bind the opposition by means of a taboo. This is the primitive thinking that Spengler is describing. If the name-calling is designed to substitute for argument rather than serve as a part of it, it is indicative of primitive and magical thinking.

Anonymous Baseball Savant January 28, 2014 7:56 AM  

I love posts like this one.

Anonymous Josh January 28, 2014 8:03 AM  

Someone who tries to argue by crying raciss or Holocaust or transphobe is appealing to bind the opposition by means of a taboo. This is the primitive thinking that Spengler is describing. If the name-calling is designed to substitute for argument rather than serve as a part of it, it is indicative of primitive and magical thinking.

On the "right" we really only see this phenomenon with "marxist" and "antisemite".

Anonymous hardscrabble farmer January 28, 2014 8:12 AM  

Supergenius wrote-

"They (those who believe in God) crave the mystical, because their inner life is so goddamned dull and dreary."

And ten posts later, without the fainmtest hint of irony adds-

"How could you possibly have any idea what gives someone else's life meaning, let alone think you know that they find no meaning in life? How do you muster that kind of ignorance and hubris."

I have always found that kind of ultra hubris to be confounding. Does the author- especially as a self described super genius- even realize that he has contradicted himself? Or is it that he, as a super genius, has the ability to know about others what he claims others cannot know?

I can only shake my head.

And FWIW Spengler is to Western thought what Mozart was to Western music. Perfect harmony and pitch in all things philosophical. There are so many absolute truths in his TDOTW I had to frequently put that volume down for months at a time just to absorb them before going on.

Anonymous wEz January 28, 2014 9:33 AM  

@Jerry's mom

Have you even seen statistical data regarding Christian persecution?

Please elaborate on this.

Or are you just another ignorant atheist tard making his rounds?

Blogger Marissa January 28, 2014 11:00 AM  

I hope it's not this Westphalia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westphalia,_Texas

Blogger Scott January 28, 2014 12:57 PM  

the magic spell "raciss"

:)

Fascinating post. Everything falls neatly into place if you consider the political correct doctrine is nothing more than a modern form of witchcraft. And like any brand of magic it only works if both sides of the spell believe in its power. Images surface of performing Harry Potter-like wand flourishes ending in Nam In Filii and the like.

This concept may also be applied to economics. I wonder what Krugman's petronas is?

Anonymous Shutterbug January 28, 2014 2:20 PM  

I'm currently reading "The Problem of Pain" by CS Lewis, and just started the chapter titled "Hell." I have to share this paragraph:

"I have begun this conception of Hell as a positive retributive punishment inflicted by God because that is the form in which the doctrine that is most repellent, and I wish to tackle the strongest objection... Our Lord speaks of Hell as a sentence inflicted by a tribunal, He also says elsewhere that the judgement consists in the very fact that men prefer darkness to light, and that not He, but His "word" judges men. We are therefore at liberty - since the two conceptions in the long run mean the same thing - to think of this bad man's perdition not as a sentence imposed on him but as the mere fact of being what he is. The characteristic of lost souls is 'their rejection of everything that is not simply themselves.' Our imaginary egoist has tried to turn everything he meets into a province or appendage of the self. The taste for the other, that is, the very capacity for enjoying good, is quenched in him except in so far as his body still draws him into some rudimentary contact with an outer world. Death removes this last contact. He has his wish - to lie wholly in the self and to make the best of what he finds there. And what he finds there is Hell."

Blogger stareatgoatsies January 28, 2014 3:39 PM  

On the "right" we really only see this phenomenon with "marxist" and "antisemite".

'pussy', 'faggot': A man acting effeminately is a taboo among some groups of people.

Anonymous Eric Ashley January 28, 2014 5:33 PM  

Which shows that taboos are not always bad ideas.

Anonymous ApolloK January 28, 2014 9:03 PM  

See this is the kind of thing that gets people laughing at and pitying many christians and why someone might be compelled to comment here... How do you muster that kind of ignorance and hubris. I chalk it up to your ideology of fanciful god fetish. Jerry's Mom January 28, 2014 1:36 AM

I'll admit, I'm only of mediocre intelligence. Pride is a major weakness I struggle with. When you ask "How could you possibly have any idea what gives someone else's life meaning, let alone think you know that they find no meaning in life?" I will agree that value is subjective. However, given there is an observable and absolute moral standard, and from what I can discern there is no better field guide to the human condition than Christianity, I sincerely wish that people would recognize Truth when they encounter it. If anyone can help with my reasoning, I appreciate it. The last thing I want to do is turn someone away from salvation.

Anonymous kh123 January 28, 2014 10:30 PM  

"'pussy', 'faggot': A man acting effeminately is a taboo among some groups of people."

I know, right. Better get over to Africa, South America, and the inner cities and correct those hate mongers.

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