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Monday, March 03, 2014

The Democratic electoral strategy

According to Instapundit:
 The way you turn states from red to purple is to make blue states so intolerable that a lot of people flee them for red states. Then those voters stupidly vote for the same disastrous policies in their new homes.
Sadly, he's right. Because MPAI. The average idiot never learns that if you vote more power to the State because you want something, the State will use that power in multiple ways you don't want.

This is why no one should be permitted to vote in state or local elections after a relocation for at least 20 years. After all, no one made them move there.

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Blogger Ragin' Dave March 03, 2014 9:08 AM  

There is not a single state that has been improved by the massive influx of Californians moving in. It's like cancer. They destroy California, then they move to new states and infect those states with their disease. How do you think Colorado went bug-fucking nuts? Californians.

I'm of the opinion that if they ruined their state, they need to stay there and not make other people deal with their mess.

Anonymous Just March 03, 2014 9:11 AM  

Quick! Every Republican in Texas Move to Massachusetts we'll take this country back one state at a time!

Blogger Rantor March 03, 2014 9:15 AM  

Virginia is already suffering from the plague... Between liberals moving here and moderates who have been convinced by the media that abortion is a woman's right, Conservatives have little chance of keeping the state. Our only hope is that Terry McAwful does something to piss off the moderates.

Blogger Nate March 03, 2014 9:16 AM  

"Sadly, he's right. Because MPAI. The average idiot never learns that if you vote more power to the State because you want something, the State will use that power in multiple ways you don't want."

Old news. This has been a problem in the South for decades. idiot yankee transplants can't go 30 seconds without bringing up something about how they did it up north.

I swear we should have armed guards on the Mason Dixon line.

Anonymous Salt March 03, 2014 9:18 AM  

Then those voters stupidly vote for the same disastrous policies in their new homes

Isn't that abstractly how disease kills the body? Now if science is the answer, irradiate the fuckers.

Anonymous Stg58/Animal Mother March 03, 2014 9:23 AM  

Austin is infected by the same stupidity. I am convinced that low level progressives have no concept of cause and effect.

Anonymous Roundtine March 03, 2014 9:27 AM  

And then there is the Free State Project. Next door, Vermont is literally dying as the young people flee. If it weren't for immigration, liberals would die out.

OpenID thetroll March 03, 2014 9:37 AM  

> I am convinced that low level progressives have no concept of cause and effect.

This is not a failing limited to progressives, unfortunately. Striking examples supported by many conservatives would be creating bubbles in home ownership and higher education, failing to understand that they were consequential markers of personal worth, not the causes of it, and so subsidizing those markers undermined rather than encouraged the behaviours they were meant to encourage, and causing near-catastrophic (actually, I'm pretty sure the higher education bubble will be catastrophic, as Boomer retirement and Generation Debt Slavery intersect to completely collapse the property sector, but we'll see) financial destabilization along the way.

Anonymous YIH March 03, 2014 9:37 AM  

@Stg58/Animal Mother:
From Wackopedia:
A recently released book on the topic, Weird City: Sense of Place and Creative Resistance in Austin, Texas,[6] discusses the cultural evolution of the "Keep Austin Weird" movement as well as its commercialization and socio-political significance.[7][8]
/snip/
Austin's culture is further enriched by a multitude of celebrities such as country music icon Willie Nelson, actress Sandra Bullock, athlete Lance Armstrong, writer Bruce Sterling, film directors Richard Linklater and Robert Rodriguez, actor Matthew McConaughey, talk radio host Alex Jones, and fashion designer Tom Ford.
{no further comment needed}

Anonymous Sheila March 03, 2014 9:38 AM  

That's been happening in Texas for decades (further encouraged by clueless Rick Perry). Tons of Californians, Chicagoans, New Yorkers, etc. all rushing to ensure Texas is aware of the blessing of their presence. Before we cancelled the paper, half the letters to the editor would be from some blue stater lamenting that Texas' spending on education . . . mental health . . . jobs training . . . just wasn't up to par. Add in all the Chinese, Indians, and Arabs and you have the perfect storm. They generally start running for the school board and various local positions. They generally lose, too, because most of their compatriots are not yet citizens. It's coming, though.

The Mexicans? They're unavoidable in every public venue, but they generally don't vote in large numbers. In the last five years, the number of blacks has skyrocketed, however. Lots of DWLs here brought in some after Katrina. There are now a few elementary schools where the combined black and Mexican population is about 70% - this in neighborhoods where houses are easily $400,000 (a byproduct of Texas school district zoning and too many apartments). Private school tuition is almost out of reach, because they have an ever increasing pool of applicants. Until the tipping point comes, and people move out of those houses. We're seriously considering a trailer on a couple of acres somewhere as preferable to the multicultural cesspool that is currently the North Dallas suburbs.

OpenID thetroll March 03, 2014 9:45 AM  

> I am convinced that low level progressives have no concept of cause and effect.

This is not a failing limited to progressives, unfortunately. Striking examples supported by many conservatives would be creating bubbles in home ownership and higher education, failing to understand that they were consequential markers of personal worth, not the causes of it, and so subsidizing those markers undermined rather than encouraged the behaviours they were meant to encourage, and causing near-catastrophic (actually, I'm pretty sure the higher education bubble will be catastrophic, as Boomer retirement and Generation Debt Slavery intersect to completely collapse the property sector, but we'll see) financial destabilization along the way.

Anonymous zen0 March 03, 2014 9:45 AM  

This is not a failing limited to progressives, unfortunately. Striking examples supported by many conservatives would be creating bubbles in home ownership and higher education, failing to understand that they were consequential markers of personal worth, not the causes of it, and so subsidizing those markers undermined rather than encouraged the behaviours they were meant to encourage, and causing near-catastrophic (actually, I'm pretty sure the higher education bubble will be catastrophic, as Boomer retirement and Generation Debt Slavery intersect to completely collapse the property sector, but we'll see) financial destabilization along the way.

None of which has anything to do with people moving to other states and screwing them up. Maybe you should wait for a bi-factional ruling party thread.

Anonymous DT March 03, 2014 9:50 AM  

I once toyed with the idea of moving to Colorado. I had a good college friend who lived up there. She told me flat out that she would love it if I moved there, but that I would need to keep my mouth shut about being from California until her social circle got to know me. Apparently the opinion of the natives was that Californians were destroying the state.

Can't say I blame them.

Anonymous Storm Saxon's Gall Bladder March 03, 2014 9:57 AM  

Or raise the voting age to thirty. Forty, even, for an accelerated effect.
My personal plan for fixing the electorate is to offer a choice at the polling place: do you want a ballot or do you want $50 in cash? Much less expensive.

Blogger swiftfoxmark2 March 03, 2014 10:00 AM  

I swear we should have armed guards on the Mason Dixon line.

That would still bring in the Marylanders. You think New Yorkers are bad? Try dealing with the idiots that run Montgomery County Maryland.

Anonymous Starbuck March 03, 2014 10:15 AM  

Vox,

This os off thread but I would just like to point something out to you. You and I have never been friends in person or online. However you have never sladered nor insulted me. Pointing out truths is not slander and certianly not insulting. You did make me think and change my mind about many things that are not important to anyone but myself. However, I also believe you done the same to others as well. I enjoy your articles and I sometimes respond to your articles. I also believe there is proving a person is wrong about something and there is slander. I have seen this clown slander you and your father over and over. I am sick of it. I will provide what this clown said this time and you can decide what to do about it. If anything. It's up to you. But it just irritates me to no end that someone insults someone elses father behind their back in a sense. I have a soft spot for my father even if he was not the perfect father everyone makes their father out to be. Anyways here it is:

PhoenicianMarch 2, 2014 at 3:37 PM
And further mendacity from Dipshit today:

Actually, I tend to favor the bifactional ruling party presenting the tattered remnants of the nation with a choice between Clinton II and Bush III. Nothing could better illustrate the facade of "democracy" that misleads the American electorate.
[...]
It is impossible to listen to either the politicians or the corporate gatekeepers and conclude that we are living in anything that even remotely approximates a "meritocracy".

Dipshit is, of course, not living in America, whether that be a meritocracy or not. He is living in Italy where, not coincidentally, he doesn't have to answer pointed questions from the United States IRS about his daddy's overseas bank accounts filled with money stolen from American taxpayers...




Link: http://poxvay.blogspot.com/2014/02/how-evil-is-vox.html?showComment=1393857734962#c4893421103490191950


Sorry, you will have to copy and paste.


This crap just irritates me

Anonymous Will Best March 03, 2014 10:18 AM  

This is why no one should be permitted to vote in state or local elections after a relocation for at least 20 years. After all, no one made them move there.

Well if by made you mean physically forced them to, I suppose you are right. However, if your company comes to you and tells you that you need to go be the Midwest sales director or your options that don't involve career suicide are somewhat limited. And in the process your screw over your minor children who can't build their 20 years.

Blogger Tiny Tim March 03, 2014 10:19 AM  

It's the same old game always played on the foolish left, make them jealous of the Captain and his crew and they will shoot holes in the boat to spite the evil people who excel because of hard work. It is how they handle the fact they are losers.

Anonymous Will Best March 03, 2014 10:24 AM  

Apparently the opinion of the natives was that Californians were destroying the state.

Keep in mind the mountain states fight with CA over water rights in addition to every other reason to hate Californians.

Anonymous Porky March 03, 2014 10:27 AM  

if you vote more power to the State because you want something, the State will use that power in multiple ways you don't want.

Sez the fellow who advocated taxing the NFL at 100%.

Anonymous Josh March 03, 2014 10:29 AM  

Shut up porky

Anonymous DrTorch March 03, 2014 10:30 AM  

Try dealing with the idiots that run Montgomery County Maryland.

QFT.

Anonymous Porky March 03, 2014 10:35 AM  

@Josh,

Bite me, lickspittle.

OpenID bc64a9f8-765e-11e3-8683-000bcdcb2996 March 03, 2014 10:38 AM  

The way you turn states from red to purple is to make blue states so intolerable that a lot of people flee them for red states. Then those voters stupidly vote for the same disastrous policies in their new homes.
SEE: Mass.->NH.
Roundtine March 03, 2014 9:27 AM
"And then there is the Free State Project...."
And oddly, it's the (above described "blue refugees", legal, and "other") folks... not originally from here... that seem to cite the most irrational fear or hatred from the Yale Thesis based "project".
CaptDMO

OpenID bc64a9f8-765e-11e3-8683-000bcdcb2996 March 03, 2014 10:40 AM  

Agggghhh,

Irrational fear or hatred TOWARD the project

Blogger kurt9 March 03, 2014 10:52 AM  

Liberals like to believe that conservatives are all stupid rednecks. A brief analysis shows that they got this the wrong way around. Liberals vote for all kinds of policies on the state level that result in reduced business activity and economic dynamism. As a result, many liberals end up leaving the blue states and migrating to a red state. Then they proceed to vote for the same policies in the red state that they did in their blue state, which resulted in them ultimately leaving their blue state. This suggest that they do not learn from their mistakes, suggesting that they, not the conservatives, are the stupid people.

Blogger Nate March 03, 2014 11:05 AM  

"That would still bring in the Marylanders. You think New Yorkers are bad? Try dealing with the idiots that run Montgomery County Maryland."

Granted.

motion to redraw the border... and I do believe the motion has already been seconded. I suggest we say... we keep Kentucky... the southern half of what is falsely labeled "West Virginia"... and most of Virginia. Some of Virginia is going to have to be excluded due to DC infection.

Anonymous Athor Pel March 03, 2014 11:13 AM  

" PorkyMarch 03, 2014 10:35 AM
@Josh,

Bite me, lickspittle."



Always keeping it classy, that's Porky.
Your Mother would be so proud.

Anonymous Porky March 03, 2014 11:23 AM  

@Athor:

Right. Because "shut up" is so deserving of a tactful, sensitive response.

Lick that spittle, Athor. It's what you were born to do.

Anonymous VD March 03, 2014 11:23 AM  

I will provide what this clown said this time and you can decide what to do about it.

I'm not concerned about what our favorite librarian from New Zealand thinks, says, or does. No need to be offended on my behalf.

Anonymous Anonymous March 03, 2014 11:27 AM  

This is why Vegas is so lame now

Blogger Nate March 03, 2014 11:31 AM  

"Right. Because "shut up" is so deserving of a tactful, sensitive response."

Would you like us to make you a safe place? Crazy thought... if you don't want to be treated like a dick... don't act like a dick.

Anonymous Starbuck March 03, 2014 11:36 AM  

I'm not concerned about what our favorite librarian from New Zealand thinks, says, or does. No need to be offended on my behalf

ok. It's not that I am offended. I just hate the cowards talking big stuff. I'd just love to bloody their lip a little bit and rub their noses in their own feces. They need it desperatley.
But still... not my fight. perhaps you handle that better then I do.

I never tolerated people talking trash about my mother or father.

But I will honor your wishes on that subject. And it's closed.

Anonymous Josh March 03, 2014 11:37 AM  

Perhaps if one does not want to be told to shut up, one should exercise self control and refrain from diverting the discussion into one's particular monomania.

Anonymous civilServant March 03, 2014 11:38 AM  

This is why no one should be permitted to vote in state or local elections after a relocation for at least 20 years. After all, no one made them move there.

Plebians.

At least a thousand years. Yes?

Blogger CarpeOro March 03, 2014 11:40 AM  

"Or raise the voting age to thirty. Forty, even, for an accelerated effect.
My personal plan for fixing the electorate is to offer a choice at the polling place: do you want a ballot or do you want $50 in cash? Much less expensive."

Wouldn't help much. Don't forget that Baby Boomers tend to be more left than the Millennials even. They are the ones that are a issue transplanting states, more so than the younger refugees because they bring enough starting capital to be a nuisance.

Blogger Eric Wilson March 03, 2014 11:41 AM  

My personal plan for fixing the electorate is to offer a choice at the polling place: do you want a ballot or do you want $50 in cash? Much less expensive.

Yeah but if that ever gets to SCOTUS, Roberts would say that even though it looks like a poll tax, talks like a poll tax, etc. it is actually health insurance.

Blogger Trust March 03, 2014 11:49 AM  

Until recently, leftist states were red and right leaning states were blue. Funny how the term red state didn't take hold until they gave Republicans the color used by Communist China and Russia. Of course MPAI is how people who fully support the fascist manifesto still think it is their opponents, rather than their allies, that are the fascists.

Anonymous dh March 03, 2014 11:57 AM  

The Red vs. Blue state thing is an interesting story. Tim Russert of NBC selected the colors and termed the phrase. The story goes that he had the head of the GOP in his office for an interview and he chose red over any other color. And the DNC got what was left over. This was alll the way back in 2000.

Blogger Matamoros March 03, 2014 11:57 AM  

Two interesting bumper stickers I've seen.

We don't give a damn how you do it up North.

and

Don't blame us, we voted for Jeff Davis

Anonymous Porky March 03, 2014 12:00 PM  

Perhaps if one does not want to be told to shut up, one should exercise self control and refrain from diverting the discussion into one's particular monomania.

Please don't pretend that you are trying to preserve some kind of decorum by yelling "shut up".

You yell "shut up" because you are a toady and you experience feelbad when someone points out hypocrisy in the object of your toadiness.

Now, toady, my point is, and was, that it is not only liberals and idiots who instinctively reach for the nearest legislator when they are offended. This is a human weakness, and it is not endemic solely to "the other side". I made my point the way I often do - by presenting an example; in this case, the example of our host who is neither a liberal nor an idiot.

Seriously, Josh, if you have no love for dialectic you should stay out of it. Sorry if it makes you feelbad, but getting to the truth often involves hurt feelings. Get over it.

Anonymous Giraffe March 03, 2014 12:08 PM  

The worst part is that red states are already purple enough thanks to the Repubs.

Blogger Trust March 03, 2014 12:11 PM  

@dh

Fair enough. Easy to believe too as Republicans are masters and not only shooting themselves in the foot, but for providing ammunition to their opponents. Todd Akin drove off a cliff with a van full of candidates who kept screaming "stop!"

Anonymous Josh March 03, 2014 12:11 PM  

It has nothing to do with feelbad or being a toady. It has everything to do with your boring and tiresome political wise guy act. And you even botched the example you used. In the NFL vs Arizona discussion, which side was championing human liberty?

Anonymous MrGreenMan March 03, 2014 12:16 PM  

She knows what she's doing; she wants to be the queen of the ruins, complete with a sparkly lavender train with spangles and rhinestones.

Anonymous Ellen Degenerate March 03, 2014 12:18 PM  

Sadly this division will continue. ... until we achieve 100% abortion of children of Leftists.

Anonymous Desiderius March 03, 2014 12:26 PM  

"Todd Akin drove off a cliff with a van full of candidates who kept screaming "stop!""

Oh, bullshit. If it wasn't Akin, they'd have found someone else. Biden says more stupid shit in a week than Akin has in his life. You're being gaslighted.

Anonymous Porky March 03, 2014 12:38 PM  

It has nothing to do with feelbad or being a toady. It has everything to do with your boring and tiresome political wise guy act.

You deny being a toady even as you borrow your insult from the object of your toadiness. Furthermore, you call me boring and tiresome even as you unwittingly recycle a tired, unoriginal ad hominem.

One wonders if you must be the descendant of that ancient Greek interlocutor who sparred with Socrates. You know, the one who always answered every Socratic query or provocation with "Shut up, Socrates".

For some strange reason, he never made it into Plato's manuscripts. Maybe because he was boring and tiresome?


And you even botched the example you used. In the NFL vs Arizona discussion, which side was championing human liberty?

What does that have to do with VD's proposed authoritarian solution? Are you an "ends justify the means" kind of toady?

Blogger Rantor March 03, 2014 12:48 PM  

Of course the Dems drive themselves away from their destroyed states and cities. Where did all the detroiters go? Off to ohio maybe?

Blogger Nate March 03, 2014 1:40 PM  

"What does that have to do with VD's proposed authoritarian solution? Are you an "ends justify the means" kind of toady?"

How is it authoritarian? The State has the power to tax sugartits. The NFL attacks a state directly why shouldn't the state defend itself?

As always... you're obtuse to the point of self-parody.

Anonymous Don March 03, 2014 1:40 PM  

dh - Trust the head of the GOP to select the internationally recognized color for communism as the Republican color.

Blogger Trust March 03, 2014 1:42 PM  

Desiderius,

I agree with you about Biden. But the media doesn't run with Biden comments they way they do as a republican. Todd Akin was just an example. A former klansman can get away with dropping the N word on national television if he has a D by his name.

Anonymous 11b March 03, 2014 1:52 PM  

It's demographics. I don't necessarily support all their positions, but what makes it toxic is the ever increasing number of NAMs in jurisdictions with those policies. If we had the demographics of Finland or Japan, it wouldn't be bad. In fact at this point I'd make a deal with progressives. Remove our NAMs and stop immigration, and I'll give you your gay marriage and 90 pc tax rates. Of course this won't happen because they're going to end up getting everything they want anyway, thanks to their army of NAM voters.

Anonymous Porky March 03, 2014 2:22 PM  

Nate: How is it authoritarian?

It's a 100% punitive tax. You know, the kind of authoritarian measure that led to rebellion back in the day?

The State has the power to tax sugartits.

King George had the power to tax too. So what?

The NFL attacks a state directly why shouldn't the state defend itself?

So when a private entity chooses freely to do business where, when, and with whom it wishes... you see this as an "attack"??



As always... you're obtuse to the point of self-parody.

And now, Athor Pel, you may understand why when dealing with several members of the ilk it is wisest to simply skip dialectic and go straight to "lickspittle".



Anonymous Desiderius March 03, 2014 2:27 PM  

"dh - Trust the head of the GOP to select the internationally recognized color for communism as the Republican color."

I don't buy the story. I've heard other versions, but the GOP was blue from as long as I can remember until just about the beginning of the Laura Bush administration, and the association of Red with D was well understood to denote an affinity toward IntSoc.

Until the (relatively sudden, from the American perspective) collapse of the USSR, a wide swath of the populace considered that a good thing or at least neutral. Even after the collapse, few members of the intelligentsia changed their ideological colors. I've heard the change in 2000 came from DNC marketing. Actual Reds don't care about the color, but are careful not to make their allegiances too obvious.

Blogger Nate March 03, 2014 2:30 PM  

"dh - Trust the head of the GOP to select the internationally recognized color for communism as the Republican color."

actually the colors came from the famous Bush vs Gore electoral map that USA today printed.

Anonymous Josh March 03, 2014 2:41 PM  

IIIRC they had alternated which party was red and which was blue until Bush v Gore, when the red state and blue state meme finally stuck.

Blogger James Dixon March 03, 2014 3:46 PM  

> ...we keep Kentucky... the southern half of what is falsely labeled "West Virginia"... and most of Virginia...

Simply re-merge West Virginia and Virginia. Give the northern panhandle of WV to PA and Northern Va to Maryland.

Anonymous Samuel Scott March 03, 2014 3:51 PM  

Vox, props to you for saying "Democratic" than "Democrat." It shows that you respect the right of the party to use its own historic proper noun rather than fall victim to the desire of conservatives to malign them by saying "Democrat Party" (as per Newt Gingrich's alleged strategy back in the 1990s).

Criticize any person or party that one wants. Out of respect and neutrality, just don't change its name to suit one's own political purposes. I could say the same for how Democrats refer to the GOP.

Anonymous Curlytop March 03, 2014 3:54 PM  

"Old news. This has been a problem in the South for decades. idiot yankee transplants can't go 30 seconds without bringing up something about how they did it up north.

I swear we should have armed guards on the Mason Dixon line." ~Nate


Amen, Brother. It's so damn predictable when a newly arrived transplant begins to talk.

Yankee Transplant: (looking around) "I can't believe how cheap it is here!!! We decided to build the 5000sq ft home on the 3 acre lot because of all the extra income we have now."

Southerner: "Well that's what you get when you have lower taxes."

Yankee Transplant in next breath, which inevitably is that insufferable whine: "Why doesn't the bus come all the way up to my driveway to take my kids to and from school everyday?" It's really annoying to drag my lazy ass out of bed to take them to the government indoctrination centers...oops, sorry. That last bit is what was running through my head as this complaint was being registered.

Southerner: "Tell me again. How big was your house up there?"

Yankee Transplant: "1000 sq ft. So as I observing. You guys really need to have paved sidewalks, lamp posts, separate buses for the Elementary,Middle, and High Schools and they need to drive up to every house...."

Southerner: "Well, bless your heart."

Anonymous Biff March 03, 2014 6:39 PM  

'internationally recognized color of communism'.

British Royal Navy battle flags were red. The Spithead mutineers flew it to show they were ready to fight naval corruption, the Peterloo wannabees flew it as fanfic, Marx stuck with it and I don't mind if today's Republicans follow.

Anonymous Eric Ashley March 03, 2014 6:47 PM  

As in many things political, the solution is bold 'offensiveness' . Pass a law that all locals have to take forty hours a year of gun practise based on the 2nd Amendment. Watch the liberal gun fearers go to other states.

Anonymous Rick Johnsmeyer March 03, 2014 8:56 PM  

To a large extent, this is a self-inflicted injury. When your state's political objectives including "recruiting" large numbers of out-of-state businesses and workers to set up within your borders, then of course you're going to pull in a bunch of Ausländer. That's built right into the system.

It's possible to have prosperous but much more protectionist and much less "invite the nation to join us" approach, but that is not as profitable for local politicians.

Anonymous Titus Didius Tacitus March 03, 2014 10:57 PM  

Porky: "You deny being a toady even as you borrow your insult from the object of your toadiness."

Porky had a point with his original line about government power and 100% taxation, and he has a point about the toadying too. There's a lot of truckling and piling-on on this blog. It's an outgrowth of Vox Day's persona.

Anonymous Hoss March 03, 2014 11:15 PM  

"...than fall victim to the desire of conservatives to malign them by saying "Democrat Party"

It's still the democrat party. Maybe they'll get a little more consideration from everyone else when they stop bastardizing words like "liberal." The modern-democrat party couldn't be any further from the classic definition of the word liberal.

Anonymous Discard March 03, 2014 11:32 PM  

Hoss: I really can't bring myself to call leftists "liberals". It's a lie, if for no other reason than you can't try to suppress others' political opinions and be a liberal. In print, I use quotation marks, when speaking I say "people who call themselves liberals". Evil vermin.

Anonymous Don March 04, 2014 12:53 AM  

My point was, even if the story is entirely apocraphal (sp?) the modern GOP beltway leadership is a. clueless b. liberal big-govt lovers c. Rinos d. secretly hate middle class America e. all of the above.

Anonymous Colorado Confederate March 04, 2014 1:35 AM  

RAGIN' DAVE:"How do you think Colorado went bug-fucking nuts? Californians."

Actually, many of the California transplants I have met have been middle-class and right-of-center.

What sunk Colorado, in my judgment, is the horde of rust-belt refugees (Minnesotans, Wisconsinites, Michiganites, and Chicagoland refuseniks) who retain their labor-union political outlook and vote accordingly.

And also all of those people moving here to "find themselves" and get high.

Anonymous clever hans March 04, 2014 3:54 AM  

I gotta go with Ragin' Dave on this one. I don't know about Colorado specifically, but expat Californians *have* wrecked the traditional conservative/Libertarian groove in all the other nearby states: Arizona, Nevada, Oregon, Washington, Idaho, Montana.....

Hard to believe only "good" Cali expats (LOL) went to CO, only to be overwhelmed by the heretofore unknown Upper Midwest diaspora.

Anonymous zen0 March 04, 2014 5:41 AM  

@ Porky

So when a private entity chooses freely to do business where, when, and with whom it wishes... you see this as an "attack"??


Would it that business were so simple. So, how much subsidization by state funds does the NFL benefit by?

Superbowl Subsidies

The National Football League (NFL) relies on massive public funds; it uses state and city money to fund the vast majority of its stadium construction, in addition to federal tax benefits. And while MetLife Stadium, the site of this year's Super Bowl, was built with private funds, don't be fooled. New Jersey residents, like just about anyone that lives in a state with an NFL team, are still subsidizing the Super Bowl,

Anonymous Western Militia March 04, 2014 6:49 AM  

"What sunk Colorado, in my judgment, is the horde of rust-belt refugees (Minnesotans, Wisconsinites, Michiganites, and Chicagoland refuseniks) who retain their labor-union political outlook and vote accordingly."

"I don't know about Colorado specifically, but expat Californians *have* wrecked the traditional conservative/Libertarian groove in all the other nearby states: Arizona, Nevada, Oregon, Washington, Idaho, Montana..."


Indeed, those SOB's ought to have remained in their own states rather than freely moving to areas for jobs, retirement, or other reasons and defiling these bastions of liberty. Perhaps some good old-fashioned social coercion could have convinced them that their presence was undesirable. Oh, well, perhaps a show of force could do the trick...

Anonymous civilServant March 04, 2014 12:29 PM  

Hard to believe only "good" Cali expats (LOL) went to CO, only to be overwhelmed by the heretofore unknown Upper Midwest diaspora.

Any increasing population will trend towards larger more impersonal more expensive/intrusive/supplantive(?) government. It is inevitable regardless of anyone's wishes views leanings religion or philosophy.

"Indeed, those SOB's ought to have remained in their own states rather than freely moving to areas for jobs, retirement, or other reasons and defiling these bastions of isolation."

Fixed it for you.

Oh, well, perhaps a show of force could do the trick...

It would ... provided you can live in Colorado without California's ports and without the rust belt's steel mills. Can you?

Anonymous John March 04, 2014 1:04 PM  

Apparently the opinion of the natives was that Californians were destroying the state.

RamZPaul did a brilliant parody of a liberals destroying a non-diverse school, and then moving on to destroy another one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fonSqHNoWkQ

Anonymous E. PERLINE March 06, 2014 2:37 PM  

I like the idea that every state should be a nation. The voting window in each state should be from 35 to 65. The federal government should only provide for the mutual defense of all.

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