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Friday, May 23, 2014

Pink projection and passive-aggression

More nonsensical posturing out of the pinkshirted brigade, as an aspiring SF writer tries his hand at amateur psychiatry. Delusion ensues.
Damien Walter @damiengwalter
 Reading VDs blog now is like watching a schizophrenic muttering persecution delusions in a cell smeared with their own faeces.

Damien Walter ‏@damiengwalter
Holy crap. Vox Day seems to be entering the catastrophic break phase of his psychotic meltdown after the Nebula awards. Sad to observe.

Joyce Chng (JDamask) ‏@jolantru
@damiengwalter Ewww.

SFReviews.net/SFF180 ‏@SFReviewsnet
@damiengwalter Let me guess. He's lost what's left of his mind because all the fiction winners were women?

Damien Walter ‏@damiengwalter
@SFReviewsnet Yep. And keeps whinging about how “amusing” it is and how he isn’t at all obsessed with the issue.

SFReviews.net/SFF180 ‏@SFReviewsnet
@damiengwalter Very odd defense mechanism. "Your ongoing success and professional esteem *amuses* me. My lack of same = superiority." Okaay.

Damien Walter ‏@damiengwalter
@SFReviewsnet VD is a borderline personality. They hook on to people / communities for attention because of deep rooted fear issues.
Now, keep in mind that these claims of obsession are coming from people who write about me on a regular basis, and who openly fantasize about wanting to harm me. Just to give one example:
Den Patrick @Den_Patrick
Weird night of discussions, mainly how I want to hurt politicians and Vox Day. Booze may have been involved. Offering no apologies. 
I didn't create these people. I didn't invent them. I have done nothing more than respond to their repeated attacks by describing them accurately and that was sufficient to set them off. It is readily observable that most of them are uninteresting writers with nothing to say that anyone outside their weird little cocoon wants to read, and one need not see their pictures to confirm that they are lonely social failures rejected by the sane and the attractive. They hate me beyond all others, I think, because they know I see them for what they are. Note that the claims of "borderline personality", "deep rooted fear issues", and "psychotic meltdown" are being made by an individual who described himself in the following manner:
I was 30 and, by any measure, deeply unhappy. I’d been pushing down a lot of horrible emotions from a damaging childhood, grief from many losses, and had trapped myself in a life I didn’t fit in to from a desperate need to fit somewhere, anywhere....  I was miserable, and in trying to escape from the causes of the misery I’d driven myself, repeatedly, to the borders of emotional collapse where I had, at long last, collapsed.
Just as the darkness cannot comprehend the light, the mentally diseased and dysfunctional cannot understand the healthy and fully functional. They interpret every action, every statement, through their own cracked and crippled perspective.  John C. Wright described them well in his final essay in TRANSHUMAN OR SUBHUMAN, "Restless Heart of Darkness":
Despair is the key. It explains nearly everything that is so puzzling about the madness of modern life, the pack of self-contradictory dogmas that make up the default assumptions of the Dark Ages in which we live.

They have nothing else. No wonder they are bitter. No wonder they are irrational. No wonder they lie like dogs. No wonder they boast. No wonder they are full of envy and malice. No wonder they kill babies in the womb and fete socialist dictators and mass murderers. No wonder they love death. No wonder they admire, protect and love Islamic terrorists. No wonder they admire, protect, and love sexual perversion.

It is because they have nothing else. They live in a world of darkness, without hope, with nothing but their seven great friends to sustain them: pride, which they call self-esteem; envy, which they call social justice; wrath, which they call activism and protest; sloth, which they call enlightenment; gluttony, which they call health food and legalization of recreational drugs; greed, which they call fairness in taxation; lust, which they call sexual liberation.

The modern age is suffering from spiritual and philosophical starvation in the midst of what should be the greatest feast of mind and spirit imaginable. Someone has told them offal was food and food was poison, and so they gnaw on foul things which cannot satisfy them, which make their hungers grow. They are dying of thirst, and someone offers them seawater to drink.

Let us now and forever eschew anger and indignation at these creatures. They are blind kittens who cling and claw and scratch at the hand that come to feed and comfort. No man should be angered at a blind scratch.

Neither should we do them the honor of assuming theirs is a philosophy, political or otherwise, or a coherent worldview, or anything that can be discussed or debated. It is a dream, a delirium, a vision, a nightmare.
There is no point in correcting their ludicrous lies or attempting to show them the obvious illogic in their statements. They are lost to madness and until they abandon their prideful despair of their own accord, there is literally nothing that anyone, least of all me, can do for them. They cannot imagine my amusement at their abysmal creations and their impotent rage because they cannot imagine either sanity or a sense of humor that is not based on a fleeting sense of superiority.

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Blogger Dan Maguire May 23, 2014 9:06 AM  

If you strung together all of Damien's tweets, I wonder if you could patch together a novel. That may be the only way he ever gets around to actually writing one.

Anonymous Alexander May 23, 2014 9:11 AM  

The way the twat tweets twoddle, he's really doing us all a favor not publishing.

Anonymous Alexander May 23, 2014 9:13 AM  

Anyway, this is a biggest softball yet. The correct response is to offer, with no commentary other than to label it as one of the Nebula winners in question, the Dinosnuff.

Anonymous Damian Walters May 23, 2014 9:14 AM  

"Damn that Vox Day! It just eats away at me day and night the way he obsesses over the Nebula awards."

Anonymous ck May 23, 2014 9:14 AM  

"I was 30 and, by any measure, deeply unhappy. I’d been pushing down a lot of horrible emotions from a damaging childhood, grief from many losses, and had trapped myself in a life I didn’t fit in to from a desperate need to fit somewhere, anywhere.... I was miserable, and in trying to escape from the causes of the misery I’d driven myself, repeatedly, to the borders of emotional collapse where I had, at long last, collapsed"

Kind of sounds like Adam Lanza.

Anonymous Anonymous May 23, 2014 9:15 AM  

Jeremiah says:
Amen

Anonymous MrGreenMan May 23, 2014 9:25 AM  

At this point, as your friendly neighborhood disinterested observer, I remember history going like:

1. You told them which way the wind was blowing when Scalzi was running SFWA. He seemed reasonably OK at the start, if a liberal twit, at least a harmless one.
2. He transformed into some bizarre court jester who seeks to curry favor with women and, the biggest sin, predictable and boring.
3. You told them again which way the wind was blowing when you ran for president of their club.
4. The guy who ran on the platform of, "He's wrong! I'm not him!" subsequently abridged all rules and operations of their little club that exists ostensibly to help science fiction writers make more money to shove you out.
5. All things considered, it looks like neither Scalzi nor Scalzi II have done anything to improve the lot of professional writers. However, they do seem to be good advocates for Tor as a business, and club members don't realize that SFWA exists as a publicity arm of Tor.
6. After telling them which way the wind is blowing, you set up a publishing arm to try to capitalize on the direction the wind was blowing.
7. It remains to be seen, but Sad Puppies has already greatly bruised their psyches and the horrible fact that there is a world outside of their closed social circle of fellow wankers who are down for the struggle.
8. Your existence reminds them of the above facts on a daily basis. I don't think Larry Correia's existence is that much of a constant irritant unless he says something. He's next on the list after you.
9. They'll probably turn violent when some fraction of Sad Puppies gets awards. They already fantasize about violence all the time - whether it's post-dinosaur-coitus murdering or just random mayhem.
10. The people who you warned they would come to purge them next are probably already being purged, which would matter if their credential mattered to anyone.

It's a shame they can't get the government to demand somebody have the SFWA union card in order to publish something. They would deny anybody who disagrees with them employment, property, or life if they could, and that is the take away from this that everyone really should get: these people cannot abide the idea of people existing who don't agree with them.

Anonymous Eric Ashley May 23, 2014 9:26 AM  

At one point, I was an orc, disdaining certain social conventions of normal folk as timewasting and boring, but then through serious effort I grew, and came to understand that I had seen things from a cracked perspective. It became a goal to become more of an Elf, as Tolkien had it (orcs being debased elves).

Anonymous dh May 23, 2014 9:30 AM  

The worst, for me anyways, is their amateur psychology is not even correct. A "catastrophic break" would be an event that you would not mistake for anything else. Claiming, for example, that you won all the awards, and that you were wearing your enemies skin as a mask. That's a mental break. A catastrophic break would involving stark raving mad and usually a violence cluster.

They have coped with their emotional trauma by joining a sad sick warren of small minded petty people, happy to live in their niche and wallow in the emotional dross of their life.

Anonymous VD May 23, 2014 9:36 AM  

The strange thing is the way they cling to the notion of the awards as being proof of "success" despite my own Hugo nomination. Look up the Amazon ranks of the likes of Swirsky, Kowal, and de Bodard sometime. They are virtual nonentities in the market. The average dinoporn or wereseal book sells better. And as for Walter, he's a literal nonentity. He's not even a professional fiction writer.

Anonymous Daniel May 23, 2014 9:36 AM  

Kind of sounds like Adam Lanza.

Hmm. Can you tell which one of the following statements is from Lanza and which one is from Walter?

"What is “chemical imbalance” even supposed to mean? Why don’t hunter-gatherers need antidepressants? I swear, a psychiatrist could take a perfectly fine chimpanzee away from its jungle, confine it in captivity, and when the chimp gets depressed, and when the chimp gets depressed, they would say, “This chimpanzee has a chemical imbalance. What? A correlation between enculturation and depression? But culture brings us meaning and beauty. Get out of my way, caveman-wannabe. I need to prescribe this chimp some Xanax."

OR

"We are Homo Faber, ‘Humankind the Creator’. God did not create us in his image, we created god in our image. We might only be an insignificant species orbiting an insignificant star in an infinite and impassive universe. But we have, perhaps uniquely, the power of creation. Why, then, are we trapped on this ball of rock, repeating the same patterns of self-destructive behaviour, instead of fulfilling our creative potential?

We are caught in a consumer culture that works against our innate creativity."

Perhaps that government grant of Walter's is to be a ghostwriter for the journals of "troubled" young men. He seems to channel that line of thinking very well, right down to style.

Anonymous Jeigh Di May 23, 2014 9:37 AM  

They must remain blind, for if their eyes were opened they would see themselves for what they are, and that would be intolerable.

Blogger Conan the Cimmerian, King of Aquilonia May 23, 2014 9:39 AM  

The blogger and psychiatrist Dr. Sanity explains this behaviour as guilt vs. shame culture:

http://drsanity.blogspot.com/2012/03/democrat-shame-culture.html

They exist in a shame cultural paradigm, i.e. The Warren.

A simplistic explanation, but it does have reasonable explanatory power in regard to their beliefs/feelings/actions.

Anonymous bob k. mando May 23, 2014 9:42 AM  

dh May 23, 2014 9:30 AM
A catastrophic break would involving stark raving mad



every post on Vox Popoli is evidence of stark, raving, madness.


dh May 23, 2014 9:30 AM
and usually a violence cluster.


how many bones has Vox broken, again? either he's actually violent OR he has debilitating delusions of violence.

therefore, Vox is experiencing a 'psychotic break', QED.


Mike Adams corresponds with a member of the Warren, i particularly like how she opens by asserting that Mike was wrong because an event was A /= A but closes at the end by asserting that, indeed, said event was A == A:
http://townhall.com/columnists/mikeadams/2014/05/19/graduation-celebration-and-the-obfuscation-generation-n1839340/page/full

Blogger Conan the Cimmerian, King of Aquilonia May 23, 2014 9:42 AM  

But many Democrats and certainly most leftists are completely shameless in the sense that they will never ever, for as long as they can possibly get away with it, going to admit to bad behavior. And in those rare cases where they simply cannot wiggle and maneuver and lie and deceive; or self-righteously tell you how wonderful they really are and all the wonderful things they have done; they will simply pretend they are still virtuous and have been victimized in some way.

and this

Eventually for the shame-avoidant person, reality itself must be distorted in order to further protect the self from poor self-esteem. Blaming other individuals or groups for one's own behavior becomes second nature, and this transfer of blame to someone else is an indicator of internal shame.

Most psychological theorists see shame as a more “primitive” emotion (since it impacts one’s basic sense of self) compared to guilt, which is developed later in the maturation of the self. Without the development of guilt there is no development of a real social conscience......

No, because Democrats, on the whole, firmly believe that they are "better people"--i.e., more loving, more compassionate, more intelligent etc. etc. ad nauseum; they go to great lengths to avoid shame; and hence, to avoid responsibility for their behavior. For every corrupt Ted Stevens, there are at least three John Murthas, Charlie Rangells, and William Jeffersons.

They lie, they deceive, they distort. They take kickbacks and are self-righteous about how innocent they are. They vow to eliminate pork, but think all they have to do is take their name off the bill they support and they are in the clear. They wonder what the meaning of "is" is. They insist they" did not have intercourse with that woman" because rhetorical maneuvers are a key postmodern method to avoid having to deal with shame and oral sex isn't really sex anyway. They deny deny deny, and they pretend that they are innocent victims of vast rightwing conspiracies or, as in the case with ex-Governor Blagojevich, they emphasize what "champions" of the little guy they are. They ignore facts and when that doesn't work, they are prepared to ignore the whole of reality itself. Because the cost to their fragile self-esteem if they are discovered is far too catastrophic.

Anonymous Gunnutmegger May 23, 2014 9:46 AM  

CK:

"Kind of sounds like Adam Lanza."

Not even close. Like comparing apples & coal.

I knew one of the child victims, and I work with one of the Lanza's former neighbors. Adam was an alien, disconnected from reality. On some level, he gained some dim awareness of what he perceived to be the unfairness of his lot in life, and he did what crazy people do. He is roasting marshmallows in hell right now.

On the other hand, Damien Walter is just a pathetic self-absorbed wretch who humiliates himself in public by airing his dirty laundry to gain the only kind of attention he can: sympathy (from people who secretly despise him, and "support" him solely because he is part of their peer group).

Anonymous Ad Faciem, former rabbit May 23, 2014 9:52 AM  

"At one point, I was an orc, disdaining certain social conventions of normal folk as timewasting and boring..."

I remain a happy eccentric. But eccentrics depend on the work and good graces of normal folk to survive.

And in my Orc days I was not happy, but smug and yet depressed.

Come to think of it, I'm still rather smug. But I have learned to seek joy in grace rather than my enormous ego, and as a result, I often experience that which I formerly did not.



Anonymous Salt May 23, 2014 9:54 AM  

In a world that's seemingly coming apart at the seams, they are great comedy and worthy of our utmost use of popcorn.

Blogger George May 23, 2014 10:00 AM  

Vox,
Thank you very much for posting the John C. Wright quote about the seven deadly sins. I had not seen it before and it is a great way to clearly summarize all that is wrong with liberalism.


It is because they have nothing else. They live in a world of darkness, without hope, with nothing but their seven great friends to sustain them: pride, which they call self-esteem; envy, which they call social justice; wrath, which they call activism and protest; sloth, which they call enlightenment; gluttony, which they call health food and legalization of recreational drugs; greed, which they call fairness in taxation; lust, which they call sexual liberation.

Anonymous Northern Observer May 23, 2014 10:00 AM  

the mentally diseased and dysfunctional cannot understand the healthy and fully functional.

I'm pretty sure that they think that everyone is as broken as they are but that they are superior/stronger/more self-aware/etc because they recognize it in themselves.

I guarantee you that he would say some thing like "of course I have deep rooted fear issues, everyone does, but I recognize it and deal with it..."

Anonymous Shelly May 23, 2014 10:01 AM  

My apologies if this has been said before, VD, your work is solid and entertaining. That's not at issue. However, a normal and healthy mind IS going to look at your blog over the past few months and logically conclude that not only are you obsessed but also angry. This is not a matter of mentally diseased and dysfunctional people misunderstanding something normal.

And while you are entitled to your opinions regarding the state of SF/F and to the state of women writers and awards, you have become a broken record on this issue that will inevitably lead to you spiraling down into ever more caustic and insulting claims. This in turn will only cause more people to conclude that you are, in some form, what these tweeters claim you to be.

From a reader....

Anonymous JoeyWheels May 23, 2014 10:06 AM  

Little Damien seems convinced that every member of The Dread Ilk is a sock puppet of our host. His tweet barrage rings of that or some serious fogging of his occular receptors..

Reading comprehension seems non-existent. His "skim-until-offended" meter is also seriously defective. I think he just has his browser parked here all day. Damien looks at reply/comment count and then tweets a rant reflecting what he supposes is being written.

The antics of the Slothful Fatties & Wannabe Authors give a gift that keeps on giving.

I used to feel sad for these deluded people. Now I look on with giggling anticipation waiting for their collective heads to explode as their warren is plowed under by a bulldozer with Castalia House emblazoned on it's cowl.

Anonymous Anonymous May 23, 2014 10:14 AM  

"There is no point in correcting their ludicrous lies or attempting to show them the obvious illogic in their statements."
Sure there is. See how much of their time and effort you can get them to expend digging their own hole deeper. The 'splodie head thing is just gravy.
Granted, when one's enemies are actively forming the circular firing squad, simply duck, and otherwise stay out of their way.
CaptDMO

Anonymous harry12 May 23, 2014 10:16 AM  

However, a normal and healthy mind IS going to look at your blog over the past few months and logically conclude that not only are you obsessed but also angry. This is not a matter of mentally diseased and dysfunctional people misunderstanding something normal.

I see Shelly considers herself (somewhat) 'normal'.

Anonymous bob k. mando May 23, 2014 10:16 AM  

Shelly May 23, 2014 10:01 AM
This is not a matter of mentally diseased and dysfunctional people misunderstanding something normal.



awwww. isn't that cute? Shelly is concerned for Vox. really, REALLY concerned.


in other news, i have reconsidered my min requirement for T.Rex killing. if you can start firing from ~1000 yds out, i'll let you use a .300 Win Mag.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBC8IFWC1P0#t=1394

Anonymous VD May 23, 2014 10:22 AM  

However, a normal and healthy mind IS going to look at your blog over the past few months and logically conclude that not only are you obsessed but also angry. This is not a matter of mentally diseased and dysfunctional people misunderstanding something normal.

I very much doubt that. Why do you think it is obsessive for a professional SF/F writer and editor to regularly opine on the state of the industry? No one seemed to think it was obsessive for me to regularly opine on the state of the political world when I was a professional editorialist.

There are certainly things that make me angry. The Nebulas and the SFWA are not among them.

And while you are entitled to your opinions regarding the state of SF/F and to the state of women writers and awards, you have become a broken record on this issue that will inevitably lead to you spiraling down into ever more caustic and insulting claims.

And now we have a prediction against which we can test your claims. If I spiral downward, you'll be correct. If I don't, then obviously you are wrong.

You can certainly say that I am a broken record on the issue, or alternatively, you could say that I am consistently correct. On the basis of MrGreenMan's observations, the latter would appear to be the more accurate description.

Anonymous zen0 May 23, 2014 10:23 AM  

Maybe that is the fascination lefties have with Islam, they are both shame based cultures.

Purges and honor killings.........look what YOU made me do!

Anonymous NateM May 23, 2014 10:23 AM  

"Little Damien seems convinced that every member of The Dread Ilk is a sock puppet of our host."

That's actually a pretty funny thought, imagining Vox frantically firing off hundreds of comments per post, including varying opinion and non sequitur. Especially the Troll comments which he writes, Then rebuts, himself. I think for Damien based on the available information one can only conclude either 1) Vox is exactly what he says, and has people who are interested in what he posts (based on book sales, site traffic) Or: 2) he is some crazy fringe looney who nobody likes with delusions or grandeur who makes up everything. Even though the odds are 99% to 1%for both options, they still desperately want to believe that 1 percent chance is true.

Anonymous Anonymous May 23, 2014 10:24 AM  

"The strange thing is the way they cling to the notion of the awards as being proof of "success"
Or even the nomination.
What is it called when award winners are to be bestowed the laurels, "other nominees" are suggested to make it look like a contest, and THEN the voting takes place?
Well, OTHER than Commune-ist SOP?
Gosh, I was a candidate for office once too! I lost, I didn't really "campaign", but STILL, I was "in the running".

Anonymous Anonymous May 23, 2014 10:25 AM  

One thing that strikes me here (and also in a lot of the articles that have come out about Pope Francis) is that they really believe that if they get enough people to repeat something enough times and believe it, it will be true.

I think that's partly the influence of New Age thinking and partly the fact that they see everything through the filter of American politics, where that is sort of true: if you can get enough people saying that homogamy is okay, then as far as the law (the courts, for now) is concerned, it is okay, and presto -- you've turned something that was a bad joke about a revolting deviancy into a civil right and a blessed event. They've made massive changes to the culture with this strategy of "repeat it over and over until it's true."

But they don't seem to realize that the rest of reality doesn't run on politics the way the US government/media/academic system does. Saying "Vox is having a meltdown" a thousand times isn't going to make it true. It may give them a good giggle, but it's not going to convince anyone who's not already part of their clique. If anything, it's going to send people here to see the amazing meltdown, revealing that they're full of crap and possibly increasing Vox's audience.

As always, leftism makes you stupid.

Blogger JDC May 23, 2014 10:27 AM  

This in turn will only cause more people to conclude that you are, in some form, what these tweeters claim you to be.

And this is a bad thing? I would conclude from your writing that having others believe you are a thing is in itself a detestable thing, when in reality their conclusions are meaningless and laughable. When I read your post I got the impression that you are placing the conclusions of others as a spiritual virtue, or a thing to be sought after.

There exists an unimaginative group of people on this earth that cannot conceive of a world that does not embrace their metaphysics. In fact, the world outside their minds doesn't even exist, and when it manifests itself it logically holds that it is the result of mental illness (we won't as far to add "mental illness or evil" because that would mean we would have to acknowledge the existence of evil and therefore good and that is not acceptable).

Doing some research on a project recently, I came across this quote: “People understand me so poorly that they don't even understand my complaint about them not understanding me.” (Kierkegaard)

I submit this is relevant to the subject at hand.

Blogger Guitar Man May 23, 2014 10:30 AM  

Obviously this Damien chick is trolling you to get more tweets, or whatever it is that chicks are into. Is she posting this on Pinterest too?

Blogger Chiva May 23, 2014 10:30 AM  

@Shelly. I think the exposure of the 'Pink' brigades is a good thing. They are a microcosm of parts of our society.

By exposing them VD is exposing parts of society that frankly confuse and confound me (granted I am one of the dimmer bulbs here....).

Anonymous TJIC May 23, 2014 10:34 AM  

@dh

> The worst, for me anyways, is their amateur psychology is not even
correct. A "catastrophic break" would be an event that you would not
mistake for anything else. Claiming, for example, that you won all the
awards, and that you were wearing your enemies skin as a mask.

Don't get ahead of yourself, DH. It's not 2016 yet.

Patience!

Anonymous Huckleberry - est. 1977 May 23, 2014 10:38 AM  

a normal and healthy mind IS going to look at your blog over the past few months and logically conclude that not only are you obsessed but also angry

Lady, you have not seen this man "obsessed" if you've only been reading here a few months.
Search this blog for WWII+Japanese+Invasion+Malkin if you want to see a man obsessed.
And anger has nothing to do with it.
Something more akin to the satisfaction that comes with doing a thorough job and admiring the smoking crater left behind.
I'm sure the Germans have a word for it.

inevitably lead to you spiraling down into ever more caustic and insulting claims.

Inevitably?
This is the point the movie where someone would pull a rubber mask off your head and reveal that you are, in fact, Damien Walter in drag.
Which must mean it's Friday night in the West End.

Anonymous DrTorch May 23, 2014 10:39 AM  

Not a T-Rex, but here's a quiz on how long you'd survive chained to a bed along w/ a velociraptor

http://theoatmeal.com/quiz/velociraptor_bed

Blogger IM2L844 May 23, 2014 10:40 AM  

I have my own armchair behavioral psychologist theory that I like to call "Fun with T.A.D."

We know T.A.D. (Theophobes Addicted to Delirium) just can't stay away. Why? Vox Popoli is their feeding trough.

Vox bangs the side of a feed bucket and the herd comes running; ready to have their deliriums stimulated. How is choreographing their synchronized outbursts of synthetic outrage not amusing? It never gets old.

Anonymous Anonymous May 23, 2014 10:45 AM  

However, a normal and healthy mind IS going to look at your blog over the past few months and logically conclude that not only are you obsessed but also angry.

My normal and healthy mind thinks he seems wryly amused more than anything. And that he knows that occasionally poking the crazy (not that they require much poking) just increases their entertainment value, proving his points and giving him more to blog about, enhancing his credibility and increasing his traffic.

What's in that to be angry about?

I've read every post and comment here for about a year now. I didn't even know about this Hugo dust-up until after they started their "no award" campaign.

The SFWA has been trying to do what bullies always do: smack some chosen "other" around and then taunt him with "Why do you keep hitting yourself?" until he tries to fight back, so they have an excuse to smack him around some more. Unfortunately for them, when Vox fights back, it hurts. A few of them are barely smart enough to recognize that and try to stop it, but most only have that one strategy and just can't help themselves.

Anonymous Shelly May 23, 2014 10:50 AM  

"By exposing them VD is exposing parts of society that frankly confuse and confound me (granted I am one of the dimmer bulbs here....)."

In a sense you are right about being exposed. However, what is not under stood by you is that the only real result from this exposition is confirmation among most is a seeming unhealthy obsession that looks very much like disappointment.

No minds are changed. Nothing is changed. The recalibration and of society continues. Women continue to spread their wings where they did not before and past assumption of the proper domain of women continue to fade.

Anonymous Servant May 23, 2014 10:55 AM  

I would recommend that particular selection of John C Wright as a forward to any political manifesto, in order to truly understand the left and its many manifestations (vaginaism, perversion as normal, etc.). Notice I did say recommend and not force. I just have not seen this fact presented as clearly before. I had given up on SF for the last number of years. I will take up reading Mr. Wright's latest (paying for same) and will pay attention to the Castalia house offerings, hoping for a better reader experience than I have had in the past.

Anonymous Shelly May 23, 2014 10:56 AM  

"My normal and healthy mind thinks he seems wryly amused more than anything."

But you would be in the minority.

"Unfortunately for them, when Vox fights back, it hurts."

You are assuming that some sort of large numbers are upset and lashing out over Vox Day's obsession. It's really just a small crew that likes to fight. The vast majority of others look, see an odd obsession and misdirected anger and never give it another thought.

Anonymous Roundtine May 23, 2014 10:57 AM  

However, a normal and healthy mind IS going to look at your blog over the past few months and logically conclude that not only are you obsessed but also angry.

Now concern trolls!

This is both a science experiment (an ongoing examination of rabbit amygdalas) and an anthropological case study in how to deal with a Leftist political takeover of your organization/industry/workplace. Vox may not be orthodox in his research methods, but he is a leading figure among Japanese experimental scientists.

Anonymous Huckleberry - est. 1977 May 23, 2014 10:59 AM  

But you would be in the minority

And you determine that based on what?
Because everyone you know voted for Dukakis?

Anonymous Bz May 23, 2014 11:01 AM  

"to the borders of emotional collapse where I had, at long last, collapsed."

This writer needs to practice harder. A lot harder.

Anonymous Feelings, Nothing More Than Feelings May 23, 2014 11:02 AM  

Pinkshirts: "We cast you out of the warren!"
VD: "Ok. I'll just set up my own publishing house"
Pinkshirts: "No, really! We did cast you out of the warren! You're out"
VD: "Yeah, I heard you the first time. So?"
Pinkshirts thumping their feet: "WE CAST YOU OUT? WHY AREN'T YOU ASHAMED?"

VD: Laughter

Pinkshirts: SCREEEEEECH!

Seriously, it seems to me that a great deal of the anguish of the pinkshirts stems from Vox not responding to being Othered as they expect him to. Outcome independence isn't something that they are used to.

They are attracted to him, and this site, because he and most of we don't care.

The rabbits have to make us care, so that when they cast us out it will hurt.

Any simularity between pink SF's awards and a clique of elementrary school children deciding "We're forming a club and you can't be in it" is not a coincidence.

Blogger Zaklog the Great May 23, 2014 11:02 AM  

"However, a normal and healthy mind IS going to look at your blog over the past few months and logically conclude that not only are you obsessed but also angry." - Shelly

Apparently I'm not "a normal and healthy mind", because I (who have yet to read any of VD's fiction) look at his recent blog and see not anger, but amusement and occasional annoyance. He has disdain for those who have been attacking him, but for that to rise to the level of actual anger, he would have to value their opinions to some degree, which he visibly does not.

I'm sorry, but you sound like a concern troll. You're not proving anything he said wrong or even attempting to engage his arguments; you're just saying, Hey, keep it down. You might hurt feelings.

Anonymous Anonymous May 23, 2014 11:11 AM  

But you would be in the minority.

Even if that were true, it's supposed to bother me? It's when the majority agrees with me that I start thinking I've missed something.

I guess I could have saved a lot of typing and just said, "Concern troll is concerned." This is Tad, right? I think I'm getting better at identifying them.

Blogger IM2L844 May 23, 2014 11:16 AM  

"However, a normal and healthy mind IS going to look at your blog over the past few months and logically conclude that not only are you obsessed but also angry." - Shelly


No. Your confirmation bias showing. What the unbiased observer actually sees is something like this followed by something like this...except with rabbits.

How is that not amusing?

Anonymous Feelings, Nothing More Than Feelings May 23, 2014 11:21 AM  

Concern Troll Grrrl
No minds are changed. Nothing is changed. The recalibration and of society continues.

Then why all the fury and angst? If your side is winning, due to historical inevitability or some other irresistable force, why all the screeching?

Women continue to spread their wings where they did not before and past assumption of the proper domain of women continue to fade.

Let me fix that for you:

Women continue to spread their legs where they did not before and past assumption of the proper domain of women continue to fade.

Feminism, whether second stage or third stage, is a temporary arrangement that contains the seeds of its own destruction. For example, we see from the one-two punch of abortion as contraception on the one side, and single women raising children alone on the other side, feminism left on its own tends to lead to destruction of the key societal building block: the family. Cat ladies in their 50's have to rely on the kindness of friends, family and strangers in order to survive, but by destroying family they cut away their own future support networks.

In the case of pink SF, it cannot be sustained in the traditional brick and mortar distribution channel of physical books because the readership is not big enough. This can be seen in any bookstore. Most women prefer their emotional porn in settings a bit more realistic, whether it be a hunky handyman who is a secret millionaire, or Lord Rod who lives in a tumble down country estate with his Secret Sorrow. There are multiple rows of shelves with that stuff neatly lined up. What is not in the rom-fic section is dinosaur porn.

Dinosaur porn is a niche within a niche within a niche : emotional porn within fantasy / science fiction. No matter how many strong, independent grrls one cares to encourage, they are not as likely to read F/SF as boys and men are; the strong, independent grrls are going to head over to the rom-fic / emotional porn section for another hunky handyman / Lord Rod one-handed book. And the men & boys, once they've read a dino porn novel for the novelty, will head somewhere else. So in the longer run, pink sf will be too expensive to maintain on the shelves of Barnes & Noble, for however much longer that chain continues to limp along.

Therefore, in the long run, pink SF will increasingly look more and more like just another variation on the vanity press theme. Fortunately the internet is the biggest vanity press in history, so dinoporn authoresses will have a place to publish their efforts. Unfortunately, there won't be much money in it, any more than there's much money in writing slash or fanfic; alt.sex-stories or the web-equivalent and other such venues are full of the stuff at no cost other than an ISP connection.

And all the while, I'm sure that the warren will continue in the mutual-admiration society. However, "Shelly", you should realize that a group of people sitting around in a closed room sniffing each others farts is not the same thing as a literary society.

Anonymous Susan May 23, 2014 11:25 AM  

I was on a google page looking to connect to your site here Vox, and just out of curiosity I clicked on the Twitter link for you. I truly did not realize that you have riled up some of these rabbits so badly. I mean, come on, a Home Office Ban simply because they think you are so toxic? You don't even cover the half of it here on your blog. I know you really find the anger of the warren all very amusing, but thanks for the entertainment anyway.

Anonymous VD May 23, 2014 11:30 AM  

However, what is not under stood by you is that the only real result from this exposition is confirmation among most is a seeming unhealthy obsession that looks very much like disappointment.

Disappointment with what? In the last year I've hit the top 100 SF writers on Amazon, become the editor of a #1 bestselling book in its category, been nominated for a Hugo, and my monthly average site traffic now exceeds John Scalzi's best month ever. I have also learned, in the process, that I have some of the most fiercely loyal fans in the industry.

This year I also had the very good fortune to edit both Mr. Tom Kratman and Mr. John C. Wright. Forget my supposed disappointment, check my privilege!

Anonymous patrick kelly May 23, 2014 11:36 AM  

"But you would be in the minority."

Ohhhh nooooss....Isa' minority......feelbadfeelbadfeelbadfeelbad.....

Hey toots, when the majority is drag racing down the lunacy track to oblivion, being in the minority is a good thang.....

Anonymous GG May 23, 2014 11:39 AM  

Well, trigger! How dare they disparage the mentally ill? They act as if having a psychotic breakdown is a bad thing. They should seriously check their privilege and take inventory of their tolerance. Sheesh.

I jest. I am wildly unpredictable and madly in love with my husband, often completely bedazzled by the nature of creation, and prone to emotional outbursts, but if I've lost my mind, I really don't want it back.

So, my advice to anyone being subjected to unsolicited psychological evaluations, is to just embrace the crazy. When the clowns are running the asylum, insanity is the best defense.

Unless you have the opportunity to crack a few skulls, in which case, go for plan B...

Blogger The Deuce May 23, 2014 11:39 AM  

as an aspiring SF writer

How long can you live as a welfare queen without producing anything before you're no longer "aspiring"?

Anonymous Alexander May 23, 2014 11:42 AM  

Why does Shelly hate minorities?

Raciss!

Anonymous Alexander May 23, 2014 11:43 AM  

Vox is suffering from disappointment much in the same way of the Yankees in the late 90's.

Anonymous bob k. mando May 23, 2014 11:46 AM  

Shelly May 23, 2014 10:50 AM
Women continue to spread their wings where they did not before



bwahahahahaha.

even in the 'bad old days' of the 1950s, women made up 10-15% of sci-fi authors. Mary Shelley is sometimes asserted to have been the first SF author. you've heard of Shelley, right? from 1815, Frankenstein?

you aren't 'spreading your wings' anyplace 'new' by writing sf.

it's the height of asinine ignorance to assert that women in the 21st century are.



Shelly May 23, 2014 10:56 AM
The vast majority of others look, see an odd obsession and misdirected anger and never give it another thought.



and yet, here you are. caring EVER SO MUCH about this dinosaur who, after all, will be ground to grist by THE INEVITABLE FORCES OF HISTORY!

errr, sorry, HERstory.

your concern is touching. verily, it hath brought a single tear to my eye.

http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/ae241/thkk_/General/tumblr_lao1s87P7g1qaq6w3.gif

Anonymous Teenage Jail May 23, 2014 11:52 AM  

These are the same idiots who respond to all disagreement with "LOL CISMALE GENDERNORMATIVE FASCIST TEARS", even though they're usually the ones crying.

I sure don't agree with Vox on everything, but there's no sign of anything like "psychotic meltdown" here, and anyone who says there is only proves they're not worth listening to. The "borderline personalities" are all theirs. (And the Nebula Awards discredit themselves with that dinosaur "story". I don't know a whole lot about the state of science fiction, but that cannot have been the best story of the year. It doesn't even rise to the level of crap.)

Blogger Joshua Dyal May 23, 2014 11:52 AM  

It became a goal to become more of an Elf, as Tolkien had it (orcs being debased elves).

The Tolkien scholars among us might take umbrage at that, given that it's hardly a given in the body of work of Tolkien that orcs are debased elves at all.

But, for purposes of the metaphor, I get your point.

Blogger Brad Andrews May 23, 2014 11:53 AM  

Don't you know you can't talk about the evil/stupid things they do or you are obsessed with them.

[Pro 26:4-5 NKJV] 4 Do not answer a fool according to his folly, Lest you also be like him. 5 Answer a fool according to his folly, Lest he be wise in his own eyes.

These fools will always take the wrong thought out of whatever action you take.

Anonymous Anonymous May 23, 2014 12:00 PM  

Hmmm, if Shelly thinks no minds have been changed by Vox, she hasn't been reading the archives for nearly long enough. But that's okay, her Warren masters told her that Vox hates women and wants to oppress them, so she knows all she needs to know about this blog already!

Anonymous Teenage Jail May 23, 2014 12:05 PM  

"The worst, for me anyways, is their amateur psychology is not even correct. A "catastrophic break" would be an event that you would not mistake for anything else. Claiming, for example, that you won all the awards, and that you were wearing your enemies skin as a mask. That's a mental break. A catastrophic break would involving stark raving mad and usually a violence cluster. "

I had a vague idea that something like this was the case, but don't know psychological jargon. Now they look even more ridiculous. Well, it's to be expected from those who claim that anyone who disagrees with them, even in the calmest way, is breaking down crying.

Anonymous Amok Time May 23, 2014 12:05 PM  

" Vox Day seems to be entering the catastrophic break phase of his psychotic meltdown after the Nebula awards. Sad to observe."

I am not sure what old Damien was observing but, it wasn't any of this. He and his fellow travelers are demented for sure. They do project, project and project. Their Pink Nebula has been a source of amusement here on this blog and not a "Meltdown"!
I do hope the poor dears do not hurt themselves. That is the next step when they are not given their "safe places", warm milk, cookies and "Poor Babies".

Blogger Gary Bourgeault May 23, 2014 12:06 PM  

@Shelley

You understand little of the Christian mindset of those of us who feel they're called to engage in battle in a specific area of life. With Mr. Day, Sci. Fi. is one of those battlefields, and the idea of entering the battle and then retreating because of the assertion people are getting tired of it, is ludicrous.

For those of us who are serious about this and other battles, we'll never surrender and we'll never retreat, as we don't do it to please people.

Do you seriously think those who hate the murderous abortion industry are going to stop attacking and working to end it because people like you want us to keep you from getting bored with the repitious nature of the battle? The same goes with the battle over Sci. Fi.

After all, we aren't going to end up like the Jews in the days of the prophet Jeremiah, when they refused to extricate themselves from the influence of the nations around them and ended up with God telling them it was too late. For them they were told to surrender to the Babylonian empire instread of fighting. We're not going to allow that to happen in our generation, no matter what the arena we choose to fight in.

So get used to us taking the battle to our enemies, as we're only starting to enter the battle, and as we go on the offensive, it will offend many of those onlookers in the beginning, but in the end, we will win a growing number of the hearts and minds of men and women watching the battle from a distance.

A tactic of battle is that we stick to our knitting. We aren't going to go off on endless tangents doubt numerous rabbit holes in order to go after every hydra head that is out there. All we would do there is severe some heads without dealing with the root of the problem.

Sticking to our areas of expertise is what will wear down and ultimately defeat our opponents. That's part of what's going on here, and I doubt there will be disengagement until the corpse of pink Sci. Fi. is empying out its last bit of air from its diseased lungs.

Anonymous Harsh May 23, 2014 12:09 PM  

You are assuming that some sort of large numbers are upset and lashing out over Vox Day's obsession. It's really just a small crew that likes to fight. The vast majority of others look, see an odd obsession and misdirected anger and never give it another thought.

Yes, the old "he doesn't bother us cuz we don't even pay attention to him" lie. And then they go out and raise $50,000 for charity to try and shut him.

Anonymous the bandit May 23, 2014 12:15 PM  

BUT BUT BUT ... THE NEBULA RESULTS SHOULD. HAVE. KILLED. YOU!

Anonymous JoeyWheels May 23, 2014 12:16 PM  

"Unfortunately for them, when Vox fights back, it hurts."

You are assuming that some sort of large numbers are upset and lashing out over Vox Day's obsession.

These large numbers are indeed hurt. Hurt by the audacity that VD has the gall to defy them simply by not only existing, but FLOURISHING despite their incesant shrieking.

We are all amused ad infinitum.


How many more and simple ways can we all say it: The whole carnival of outrage being put on by the SWFA was predicted and unfolds right before our eyes.

What truly thows the McRapey crowd into shits, fits and cramps is that; despite their contrived shunning of Vox, he just goes about his business and has more success than any of them ever will or can imagine.

...and we get to watch from free box seats behind the home team bench.

Anonymous Anonymous May 23, 2014 12:16 PM  

For your next post - http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/05/22/1301307/-Racism-Not-MY-Science-Fiction

Anonymous GG May 23, 2014 12:19 PM  

"... like watching a schizophrenic muttering persecution delusions in a cell smeared with their own faeces."

This must be an example of the joys of socialist medicine? Where else would you be locked in a cell and left to play with feces? Maybe it was a VA clinic run by a woman who was promoted after her last act of incompetence.

Anonymous bob k. mando May 23, 2014 12:23 PM  

Teenage Jail May 23, 2014 11:52 AM
...



gotta like the Eagles.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjWo7nb70-Q



Joshua Dyal May 23, 2014 11:52 AM
given that it's hardly a given in the body of work of Tolkien that orcs are debased elves at all.


the Hobbit, LotR and Silmarillion are published 'canon' ( and even some of that was retconned ). the unpublished stuff was rough spitballing. anything cleaned up and published posthumously by Christopher must be considered in this latter category.

therefore, by canon lit AND the movies, orcs are descended from elves.

even at the very latest revisions, Tolkien was postulating a combined elvish/mannish origin which, given that elves existed long before men, would mean that orcs still BEGAN as nothing more than corrupted elves.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orc_%28Middle-earth%29#The_origin_of_Orcs
"Most of them plainly (and biologically) were corruptions of Elves (and probably later also of Men). "

Anonymous jamsco May 23, 2014 12:24 PM  

" they cannot imagine either sanity or a sense of humor that is not based on a fleeting sense of superiority. "

So ... the main difference is that your sense of superiority is not fleeting?

Anonymous Ferd May 23, 2014 12:30 PM  

Great Post, Conan the Cimmerian, King of Aquilonia!
Keep your sword and pen sharp!!

Anonymous Loki Sjalfsainn May 23, 2014 12:30 PM  

"My normal and healthy mind thinks he seems wryly amused more than anything."

But you would be in the minority.


Truly? How peculiar that you think only a minority of persons have normal and healthy minds.

No minds are changed. Nothing is changed. The recalibration and of society continues. Women continue to spread their wings where they did not before and past assumption of the proper domain of women continue to fade.

All your base are belong to women. You have no chance to survive make your time. Ha ha ha ha...

Anonymous VD May 23, 2014 12:34 PM  

So ... the main difference is that your sense of superiority is not fleeting?

No, it has nothing to do with that. My sense of humor is not based on any sense of superiority. I don't find "You know that X, he is really stupid" humor to be amusing in the slightest.

Anonymous jamsco May 23, 2014 12:52 PM  

My sense of humor is not based on any sense of superiority.

So you're saying that you get no amusement when you see evidence that you're better than who your dealing with?

Anonymous dw May 23, 2014 12:53 PM  

I thought minorities are supposed to get special privileges because opression and legacy.

Vox, you might want to sue them for reparations.

Anonymous Jack Amok May 23, 2014 1:08 PM  

No minds are changed.

Oh, but they are, they are. No, not yours, you have your world view and nothing is going to move you off it. It's us, the ones who were more or less on Vox's side to begin with. Our minds are changed. Not on the subject of who's right, but on the subject of how to engage with your side. Most of us - even Vox himself in his own way - used to try and engage ,argue, reason. We'd give you the benefit of the doubt, or at least act as if we did to preserve the fabric of society. We wouldn't counter your uncivilized tactics with unpleasant tactics of our own out of a belief we should remain civilized.

Well, I think most of us have changed our minds on that subject.

I'm not reasoning with you Shelly. I'm telling you that you are toast. I'm telling you that we're coming for you and we mean to throw you and your kind out on your ears and take back what's ours. You think we're the big, bad patriarchy? Oh yes. But you have no idea how bad we can be. You've forgotten, because we've been nice for too long.

You don't realize it, or at least can't admit it, but your best hope is that people like Vox win, because there are worse patriarchies out there. Far, far worse. They're on the march too. Your side has already doomed, the only question is whether you'll lose to us or to them.

Pray you lose to us.

Anonymous Scintan May 23, 2014 1:09 PM  

One thing that strikes me here (and also in a lot of the articles that have come out about Pope Francis) is that they really believe that if they get enough people to repeat something enough times and believe it, it will be true.

They don't need it to be true. They just need it to be perceived as true. And it works. It's probably, along with shaming/othering, the most powerful weapon in their arsenal.

Anonymous Scintan May 23, 2014 1:10 PM  

So you're saying that you get no amusement when you see evidence that you're better than who your dealing with?

A /= not A

Blogger LP 999/Eliza May 23, 2014 1:12 PM  

No, Vox does not look for fights, he is simply posting the issues at hand in this strange output of uncool, 'unsafe' group that is foreign to the most of us. Perhaps b/c while I have my own problems, I can see mental illness when it appears, there are very bright red flags here.

Moving on. This is disturbing, not good or even funny or as amusing like McScaRaRa.This is scary like the Jack Les mez on my voice mail.

It reflects what I have had to learn in my own deteriorating family during the last approx. 4 to 8 years. Out the henhouse for what it is, do not back down or be bullied and reveal the mental illness of the henhouses and tag alongs ruining the situation. No, the maladjusted cannot understand the well adjusted no more than those who opted for excellence and order bother with the disordered and lesser quality.

Anonymous Mark Call May 23, 2014 1:13 PM  

Reading stuff like this (and obviously not for the first time...) one has to ask an obvious -- and even Scripture-related -- question, VD:

Have you not considered the possibility of demonic influence?

Anonymous Eric Ashley May 23, 2014 1:25 PM  

The DNC holds the trademark on True Minority (tm). In order to get TM(tm), the man applying, henceforward known as TM(tm)tm must engage in a full prosykineses before an image of Reverend Jackson, or pay 1M$ to the DNC.

Also acceptable is for TM(tm)tm to sing a rousing chorus of tim-timiny-tim-timiny, chim, chim, cheroo, a swooft is as lucky as a swooft can be....

Anonymous Eric Ashley May 23, 2014 1:29 PM  

And thats a reply to dw.

Anonymous Vidad May 23, 2014 1:44 PM  

"Women continue to spread their wings where they did not before and past assumption of the proper domain of women continue to fade."

And yet, they can't even make a sandwich worth eating. #backtothekitchen

Blogger Joshua Dyal May 23, 2014 1:51 PM  

the Hobbit, LotR and Silmarillion are published 'canon' ( and even some of that was retconned ). the unpublished stuff was rough spitballing. anything cleaned up and published posthumously by Christopher must be considered in this latter category.

therefore, by canon lit AND the movies, orcs are descended from elves.


You contradicted yourself. The Silmarillion was published posthumously, containing material handpicked by CHRISTOPHER, not John Ronald Reuel and supplemented by Guy Gavriel Kay. At no point in any work published by Tolkien in his lifetime was the notion of orcs being debased elves ever hinted at.

And, seriously? You're going to refer to Peter Jackson's movies as a source?

Anonymous Anonymous May 23, 2014 1:59 PM  

I'm more than happy to consider "The Silmarillion" canon. It is a work of singular genius, and probably contains Tolkien's best prose.

Blogger Joshua Dyal May 23, 2014 2:07 PM  

I love The Silmarillion too. But lacking a central authority to declare canon, I of course have to point out that the exact same criteria he uses to discount The History of Middle-earth applies equally so to The Silmarillion. Actually, even moreso, since when Christopher concocted The Silmarillion he wasn't doing so from the point of view of someone who was trying to elucidate Tolkien's vision for the mythos of Middle-earth. He was doing it explicitly from the point of view of someone who was saying, "hey, here's some other cool stories my dad wrote that a publisher will probably buy. I went through them with a friend of mine. We picked our favorite bits and edited/rewrote portions of them to bring them more or less into harmony with each other and threw it together for consumption."

By his own admission, although obviously I'm paraphrasing.

Anonymous JoeyWheels May 23, 2014 2:10 PM  

They don't need it to be true. They just need it to be perceived as true.

I recently saw a "book of faces" meme made by a U.S. soldier regarding the hashtagGet-Our-Girls-Back campaign.

He had a photo of himself taken with his own hastily scrawled sign.
One of his points was "STOP LAZY INTERNET ACTIVISM"

This one phrase gobsmacked me as I had been struggling to find a way to skewer this tripe for a long while, and this cat hits it out of the park.

Frankly, I was jealous that I couldn't come up with it.

Unlike the Slothful Fatties & Wannabe Authors and their warren-mates I accepted my jealousy and now rejoice that SOMEONE thought of it even if it wasn't me. I didn't gripe and grouse that some mythical patriarchy did, or that an old(er) white guy did, or project my own lack of verbal accumen and wit upon him as if he had gotten lucky.

Being locked away in their 'writing rooms' and hurling accusations of badthink and admiring their glittering hoo-haas of aspiring authordom is just another form of lazy internet activism. No real work, talent or creativity involved....just like their membership in the SFWA.

Anonymous rho May 23, 2014 2:14 PM  

Forget my supposed disappointment, check my privilege!

That was funny. I laughed, anyway.

SF author inside baseball stuff is kinda dumb, but it's fun dumb. I wouldn't know or care about Nebulas or Hugos or anything like them if VD didn't write about it. It's like TMZ, but with better writing and uglier pictures.

Blogger Tommy Hass May 23, 2014 2:16 PM  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVpbcx8sbdg

Related.

Blogger Tommy Hass May 23, 2014 2:18 PM  

A comedian better than me might write the jokes in my stead.

Blogger Joshua Dyal May 23, 2014 2:19 PM  

SF author inside baseball stuff is kinda dumb, but it's fun dumb. I wouldn't know or care about Nebulas or Hugos or anything like them if VD didn't write about it. It's like TMZ, but with better writing and uglier pictures.

I'm a fan of the genre, so I find the insider baseball stuff about what goes in the genre to be the most interesting thing about this blog, and the main reason I keep coming.

I also find the SFWA and related stuff an interesting microcosm for where the rest of society is headed shortly barring the rest of us waking up and vigorously protesting it.

Anonymous kh123 May 23, 2014 2:35 PM  

"... like watching a schizophrenic muttering persecution delusions in a cell smeared with their own faeces."

Hey now, there's no need to bring the Irish into this.

Anonymous kh123 May 23, 2014 2:38 PM  

...Take note, there's now mention of mentally ill terrorist activities in the comments. Unless it's leftist. Then it's struggle and protest. Even if dirty.

Blogger Brad Andrews May 23, 2014 2:39 PM  

Mark Call,

The evil one influences all parts of human society in a myriad of ways. Idiocy is often just humans acting out their baser impulses and no direct demonic influence is required.

Anonymous rho May 23, 2014 2:56 PM  

I also find the SFWA and related stuff an interesting microcosm for where the rest of society is headed shortly barring the rest of us waking up and vigorously protesting it.

Fair enough, and I agree.

Anonymous bob k. mando May 23, 2014 3:01 PM  

Joshua Dyal May 23, 2014 1:51 PM
The Silmarillion was published posthumously, containing material handpicked by CHRISTOPHER



conceded. now that you mention, i may remember that, vaguely.

regardless, my point fails utterly.



Joshua Dyal May 23, 2014 2:07 PM
He was doing it explicitly from the point of view of someone who was saying, "hey, here's some other cool stories my dad wrote that a publisher will probably buy.




uhhh, no. JRR was trying to sell the Silmarillion before he wrote the LotR. the publisher wouldn't take it.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Silmarillion#Development_of_the_text
"In 1937, encouraged by the success of The Hobbit, Tolkien submitted to his publisher George Allen & Unwin an incomplete but more fully developed version of The Silmarillion called Quenta Silmarillion,[5] but they rejected the work as being obscure and "too Celtic".[15] The publisher instead asked Tolkien to write a sequel to The Hobbit.[15] Tolkien began to revise The Silmarillion, but soon turned to the sequel, which became The Lord of the Rings."

and unless you're going to just flatly assert that Christopher was outright lying, the content of the Silmarillion, at least in the broad outlines, IS what JRR wanted it too be.

http://bookre.org/reader?file=64061
"They are included according to my father's explicit intention"

Christopher's work would have been in CHOOSING which specific version of each of the quenta would be told and in trying to harmonize contradictions.


weird that it appears the entire thing is available online.

Anonymous Mark Call May 23, 2014 4:20 PM  

...Idiocy is often just humans acting out their baser impulses and no direct demonic influence is required.

Which, while true, doesn't mean that those who so earnestly beg for it won't be obliged...

Anonymous Shelly May 23, 2014 4:27 PM  

"I very much doubt that. Why do you think it is obsessive for a professional SF/F writer and editor to regularly opine on the state of the industry?"

It's not unusual. However. It does come off as obsessive when you twice daily opine on exactly the same question inside the world of SF and when you continually disparage the same group and when you continually claim you are not compulsive on the issue.

Anonymous T May 23, 2014 4:35 PM  

Shut up, Shelly. Nobody cares what you consider obsessive. We consider the nonstop desire of the pinkshirts to see a woman, any woman, win over a man, or any LGBTIQWTFBBQ to win over what they consider 'normative' writers, to be what is obsessive here.

Why is it that people like you only consider the reaction to demagoguery to be obsession?

Oh, and the 'women are spreading their wings' comment outed you, by the way. You're just another idealist whinger with her head firmly in the clouds, a comfortable enough distance from terra firma that you need not concern yourself with reality.

Anonymous Shelly May 23, 2014 4:41 PM  

"I'm not reasoning with you Shelly. I'm telling you that you are toast. I'm telling you that we're coming for you and we mean to throw you and your kind out on your ears and take back what's ours"

I believe you when you say this is your intent. What I don't think you realize is that your team is too small to make a dent in the progress. There are still people fighting against integration, against evolution in schools and for prayer in schools and other such things. But these warriors are so far on the fringe as to be of no consequence. You intent to "take back" something is no different and indicates a misunderstanding of modern society if you believe you have a chance of succeeding.

Anonymous Loki Sjalfsainn May 23, 2014 4:50 PM  

It's not unusual. However. It does come off as obsessive when you twice daily opine on exactly the same question inside the world of SF and when you continually disparage the same group and when you continually claim you are not compulsive on the issue.

Whereas a perfect stranger who arrives out of nowhere to deliver a diagnosis of mental disorder to a man she knows not and quite probably despises, to proclaim the victory of women over the phantom of oppression, and to revel in attention is...what, precisely?

Perhaps one of the "winners" in this little political show that makes play it is a literary award?

Blogger Brad Andrews May 23, 2014 4:51 PM  

Yeah, we should teach lies (TENS) and make sure to stomp out anything supernatural, unless it is occult of course, from the schools. They will be such paradises!

Anonymous Shelly May 23, 2014 5:03 PM  

"Yeah, we should teach lies (TENS) and make sure to stomp out anything supernatural, unless it is occult of course, from the schools. They will be such paradises!"

I'm not talking to the right and wrong of it. I'm speaking to the issue of folly and to those who should know better when their battle can't be won.

Anonymous Loki Sjalfsainn May 23, 2014 5:05 PM  

I believe you when you say this is your intent. What I don't think you realize is that your team is too small to make a dent in the progress.

Who appointed you moral arbiter, pray, that you might decide for an entire society what is "progress"? Is it for you to call one thing good and another bad? By what right stand you to judge others?

There are still people fighting against integration, against evolution in schools and for prayer in schools and other such things.

Do let me know when the schools evolve. Or is it the children therein you desire to evolve? Was this the purpose of integration, to encourage eugenic cross-breeding, perchance?

But these warriors are so far on the fringe as to be of no consequence.

Who must be stopped at all cost, lest someone voice an opinion that could reinforce the white male cisgender oppressors...

Anonymous Scintan May 23, 2014 5:08 PM  

It's not unusual. However. It does come off as obsessive when you twice daily opine on exactly the same question inside the world of SF and when you continually disparage the same group and when you continually claim you are not compulsive on the issue.

Dealing with current events on a current events driven blog is generally what's to be expected. Trolling that blog, and doing a piss poor job of it, hasn't given you any real insight.

Do us all a favor. Become a better troll, because you suck at it right now, and shitty trolls are boring.

Anonymous Daniel May 23, 2014 5:10 PM  

The thing that makes McRapey, McCreepy, Brontoswirsky, and the Puppeteer so funny is precisely because they are good at the things they are unintentionally funny at.

Gould on the other hand isn't as amusing, precisely because he is so inferior in the field: he doesn't manipulate people well, he doesn't bare his ass in elaborate ironic ways, his stories don't pick huge targets and then miss them in the opposite direction. He is humor's kryptonite: a mediocre say-nothing.

The funny ones are the ones who are so confident in their superiority that they go out of their way to demonstrate their craft...and when they prove beyond all reason that they can't do the one thing they insist they are great at (McRapey fails at his self-described "difficulty setting", McCreepy lectures people on not being creepy in incredibly creepy ways, Brontoswirsky proves she doesn't need a man by being totally pissed to not have a man, Puppeteer is constantly getting tangled in her own strings).

But Gould? Gould is kind of inert. He's no fun.

Anonymous Loki Sjalfsainn May 23, 2014 5:15 PM  

Do us all a favor. Become a better troll, because you suck at it right now, and shitty trolls are boring.

Ah, but offer her a bit of compassion. This is like to be the most masculine attention she has ever enjoyed. She cannot help that it has quite gone to her head and bereft her of what wit she might have.

Blogger Pinakeli May 23, 2014 5:24 PM  

Shelly May 23, 2014 10:50 AM

Women continue to spread their wings where they did not before and past assumption of the proper domain of women continue to fade.


No one minds when a woman "spreads her wings". We complain when she flies over our freshly washed cars and craps on them. Especially when the top is down because the weather is so nice out.

Anonymous Jack Amok May 23, 2014 5:46 PM  

What I don't think you realize is that your team is too small to make a dent...

You are so hopelessly behind the curve. We don't need to make a dent in anything, your side is taking a wrecking ball to everything. All we need to do is pick up the pieces. Your eternal shame will be having destroyed the greatest civilization humanity has created.

Anonymous Loki Sjalfsainn May 23, 2014 5:53 PM  

Your eternal shame will be having destroyed the greatest civilization humanity has created.

You seem to operate under the assumption that snug, weather-tight houses are superior to grass huts. How patriarchally Eurocentric of you, you hater.

Anonymous VD May 23, 2014 5:55 PM  

It does come off as obsessive when you twice daily opine on exactly the same question inside the world of SF

How is it "obsessive" on my part when those twice daily posts are responses to MULTIPLE attacks on me? Are you saying that self-defense is obsessive?

Blogger Dollartooth May 23, 2014 6:25 PM  

(proper name Dan Gilbert-don't tell noone though cos I'm meant to be in court and that). Sick of these nobends whinging and hiding behind walls of text what take ages to read. They should have some balls like Vox! He gets in front of a camera and proper rocks it live, you won't catch him ignoring stuff or censoring like a hippo, hypo, hypnot, er, liar.
Can't wait till you make some more, maybe about how women are beanbags or something. You did drop a bollock though mate, it's only on this nob-end's webshite...
http://jamesworrad.blogspot.co.uk/2014/05/video-exclusive-vox-day-interview-by.html

Anonymous Loki Sjalfsainn May 23, 2014 6:30 PM  

Are you saying that self-defense is obsessive?

They would prefer you resort to blowing a rape whistle and weeping uncontrollably.

Anonymous JK May 23, 2014 6:33 PM  

Vox, I don't really care about the Nebulas and SWFA. I am bored with the subject. I was bored after the first post and I am so happy the Nebulas are over. But it seems the blog has taken a turn for the worst.
Please limit your posting about it to one a day so that I can get the Vox I have loved almost since the inception of the blog. I know this is your blog and all but I am worried that the real Vox may never return, lost down the rabbit hole forever.

Anonymous kh123 May 23, 2014 6:34 PM  

"There are still people fighting against integration, against evolution in schools and for prayer in schools and other such things."

Burningman aficionados, take note. Provider of strawmen available if you run out of other materials. Is also keen on the concept of women spreading and stretching in order to experience new things.

Anonymous Shelly May 23, 2014 6:44 PM  

"How is it "obsessive" on my part when those twice daily posts are responses to MULTIPLE attacks on me? Are you saying that self-defense is obsessive?"

Lots of people are more regularly attacked than you are, yet they are capable of summoning the strength to resist the Matyr Complex.

In the end, Vox, you will do what you think necessary. But don't be surprised as folks continue to find your actions obsessive and jelousy based.

Anonymous Jack Amok May 23, 2014 6:58 PM  

You seem to operate under the assumption that snug, weather-tight houses are superior to grass huts.

In the Seattle general vicinity, I do find that to be true more often than not. Although have quite a bit of grass to make huts with, the winds tend to, what's the word?, disperse them, and the rain soaks through what's left. Now, if I lived in Tahiti, perhaps I'd be less patriarchal-like.

Anonymous Anonymous May 23, 2014 6:59 PM  

I wonder, how many of the people who come here to tell Vox how wrong he is and obsess over "his" views about women also take the time to go tell traditional Muslims, you know, the guys who beat their wives and honor kill their daughters and sell Christian schoolgirls into sex slavery, that their point of view is doomed to failure? Do they make a point to go find jihadi websites and castigate those bitter, jealous men who are ACTUALLY oppressing women, right now, today, that they're wrong? Do they picket outside Muslim schools where not only do they pray with their faces on the floor multiple times a day, they segregate the students, because women are "inferior"?

I mean, they could be spending all their social justice internet activist time by calling their representatives and urging them to designate Boko Haram a terrorist group and send troops to rescue kidnapped and enslaved young girls, but they'd rather come to Vox's website and tell him how he'll never succeed at putting a "dent" in "progress." Right. If he's so insignificant, tell me again why you're here at all, instead of helping The Sisterhood where it really counts?

Anonymous kh123 May 23, 2014 7:03 PM  

"yet they are capable of summoning the strength to resist the Matyr Complex."

Some also have the strength of resisting spell check.

Blogger Brad Andrews May 23, 2014 7:03 PM  

So don't read posts on it JK. That is always an option. You don't have to read and follow the comments on every last post!

Anonymous kh123 May 23, 2014 7:07 PM  

...No, wait, now I get it. Matyr, is in: Mater. A Mother Hen Complex. Constant shame inducing, but with love and - most importantly - concern. Especially for strangers whom one feels a need to tell publicly that they're in too small a number to effect anything.

Yes, that must be very hard to resist.

Anonymous kh123 May 23, 2014 7:13 PM  

...Then there's the Matryoshka Complex, where one constantly feels the need to stuff themselves into another, preferably larger, woman of increasing size; or conversely the larger feels the need to envelop and consume smaller in the hierarchy. Also known as Piscem Vorat, or Dorito Fever.

Anonymous Loki Sjalfsainn May 23, 2014 7:17 PM  

I wonder, how many of the people who come here to tell Vox how wrong he is and obsess over "his" views about women also take the time to go tell traditional Muslims, you know, the guys who beat their wives and honor kill their daughters and sell Christian schoolgirls into sex slavery, that their point of view is doomed to failure? Do they make a point to go find jihadi websites and castigate those bitter, jealous men who are ACTUALLY oppressing women, right now, today, that they're wrong? Do they picket outside Muslim schools where not only do they pray with their faces on the floor multiple times a day, they segregate the students, because women are "inferior"?

No, those they prefer to excuse because they "come from a culture where they think this is appropriate conduct, where they can hit their wives."

Anonymous Salt May 23, 2014 7:19 PM  

lost down the rabbit hole forever

But, that's where the rabbits are. He'll come up for air soon enough, probably with lots of pelts.

Anonymous JK May 23, 2014 7:29 PM  

Brad Andrews May 23, 2014 7:03 PM

So don't read posts on it JK. That is always an option. You don't have to read and follow the comments on every last post!

I don't read the posts (mostly) and I don't follow the comments as a rule at all and just scrolled to the bottom to say my bit. My point is that if I don't read about Nebulas or SWFA then there is not much left to read from Vox anymore. Today there are 2 unrelated posts but that is a rarity in recent times.

Blogger Joshua Dyal May 23, 2014 7:29 PM  

and unless you're going to just flatly assert that Christopher was outright lying, the content of the Silmarillion, at least in the broad outlines, IS what JRR wanted it too be.

http://bookre.org/reader?file=64061
"They are included according to my father's explicit intention"

Christopher's work would have been in CHOOSING which specific version of each of the quenta would be told and in trying to harmonize contradictions.


Yes. Isn't that exactly what I said?

For example, the version where the orcs are debased elves. It's clear that Tolkien had issues with that idea, didn't like it, and was trying to figure out an acceptable alternative to the notion, but never quite got there when he died. At least, if he did, he didn't write it down anywhere where his son was able to find it later.

But Christopher picked that one and stuck it in The Silmarillion anyway. And because few Tolkien fans read beyond that, finding the other books to perhaps be too scholarly, dry or repetitious, that's what most of them also say if the topic comes up.

That doesn't make it the "right" answer; just the easiest.

Blogger Joshua Dyal May 23, 2014 7:31 PM  

I don't read the posts (mostly) and I don't follow the comments as a rule at all and just scrolled to the bottom to say my bit. My point is that if I don't read about Nebulas or SWFA then there is not much left to read from Vox anymore. Today there are 2 unrelated posts but that is a rarity in recent times.

:shrug: Whereas I like the SFWA-type posts the best. Political commentary is easy to come by on the internet, commentary on the SFWA that's actually insightful and interesting can only be found on a handful of places. Correia's blog, Hoyt's blog, Wright's blog, and occasionally Williamson or someone else will throw out something too.

Blogger Joshua Dyal May 23, 2014 7:33 PM  

If he's so insignificant, tell me again why you're here at all, instead of helping The Sisterhood where it really counts?

Whachoo talkin' 'bout, Willis? They've been ALL OVER helping the Sisterhood where it really counts. Didn't you see all those #bringbackourgirls twitter pictures?

Anonymous bob k. mando May 23, 2014 7:40 PM  

jamesworrad May 23, 2014 6:25 PM
You did drop a bollock though mate, it's only on this nob-end's webshite...



really? what the fuck is wrong with you idiots? Vox grows up in Minnesota so you spoof him by portraying him with a faux-Southern accent?

how goddamn stupid are you? is maps.google beyond your ken? hell, a yooper accent wouldn't be applicable either ... but at least you could reasonably play it for laughs.

oh, ohhhhhh, i get it. to the 'cultured' and 'sophisticated' euro, stupid Americans are all from the south. gotcha.


what does he call the women who visit his site? uh ... Ilk?

Anonymous bob k. mando May 23, 2014 7:46 PM  

Joshua Dyal May 23, 2014 7:29 PM
Yes. Isn't that exactly what I said?



no, you said that the Silmarillion was just some odds and ends that Christopher threw together to soak some more royalties out of the franchise.

that's not hardly possible given that the Silmarillion was extant before JRR even started writing LotR.

and if i can quote JRR himself saying that the orcs came from elves and, later, men and you're still going to keep arguing ... there's not really much to talk about.

granted, it was never established as official canon. but there are no alternative theories.

Anonymous kh123 May 23, 2014 7:48 PM  

and I don't follow the comments as a rule at all"

Until today. Because concern. Interesting, that.

Anonymous VD May 23, 2014 7:49 PM  

Vox, I don't really care about the Nebulas and SWFA. I am bored with the subject. I was bored after the first post and I am so happy the Nebulas are over. But it seems the blog has taken a turn for the worst.

I don't give even the smallest damn about what bores you. If you don't like it then go away.

Please limit your posting about it to one a day so that I can get the Vox I have loved almost since the inception of the blog. I know this is your blog and all but I am worried that the real Vox may never return, lost down the rabbit hole forever.

You're full of shit. I average far less than one post per day about this subject. Today there are four posts: one about fracking, one about education, one about the EU elections, and one about the SF/F world. Yesterday there were four posts: one about the SF/F world, one about black-white relations in Europe, one about immigration, and one about the UK elections.

The only two posts that you commented on were the SF/F ones. You're a fraud and a concern troll.

My point is that if I don't read about Nebulas or SWFA then there is not much left to read from Vox anymore. Today there are 2 unrelated posts but that is a rarity in recent times.

You're lying. Go away.

In the end, Vox, you will do what you think necessary. But don't be surprised as folks continue to find your actions obsessive and jelousy based.

And there it is. "Shelly" is Tad. I thought I smelled a familiar troll-stink earlier. Go away Tad.

Anonymous JK May 23, 2014 7:56 PM  

Joshua Dyal May 23, 2014 7:31 PM

:shrug: Whereas I like the SFWA-type posts the best. Political commentary is easy to come by on the internet

If it were just political commentary by Vox then you'd be right- there is so much more than that. Look at it this way. You have been reading 3 SWFA-Vox posts a day for 10+ years and then he starts with the odd political commentary which pretty soon ends up as 2 posts a day. You might :shrug: and leave but you might even write a plea similar to mine.

Blogger Joshua Dyal May 23, 2014 8:01 PM  

Say what? Of course there are alternative theories? Did you even read the wikipedia article you linked me to? It does a reasonably good job of summarizing them (heckuva lot better than your summary of my post just now) with links to the relevant primary sources.

Anonymous pdimov May 23, 2014 8:02 PM  

Pinkshirts: "We cast you out of the warren!"
VD: "Ok. I'll just set up my own publishing house"


No, no.

Pinkshirts: "We cast you out of the warren!"
VD: "Fine! I'll just build my own warren! With blackjack and hookers!"

Anonymous Happypants May 23, 2014 8:07 PM  

But seriously, what about the weird twitter swipe (unprovoked, mind you) that you took st Joe Abercrimbie? Definitely speaks to obsessiveness.

Blogger James Worrad May 23, 2014 8:16 PM  

It's only fair I should point out that that poster you replied to isn't me. There's probably ways of verifying that but I'm an I.T eejit so I couldn't tell you. That said, your concern is appreciated.

Anonymous Loki Sjalfsainn May 23, 2014 8:30 PM  

But seriously, what about the weird twitter swipe (unprovoked, mind you) that you took st Joe Abercrimbie?

St. Joe Abercrombie, patron saint of tender rape fantasies.

Anonymous Harsh May 23, 2014 8:36 PM  

But don't be surprised as folks continue to find your actions obsessive and jelousy based.

Only a retarded leftist would write something that dumb. Why should Vox care what others think about his actions?

Anonymous Happypants May 23, 2014 8:47 PM  

***Why should Vox care what others think about his actions?**

Why would anyone? But people do.

Anonymous Loki Sjalfsainn May 23, 2014 8:55 PM  

Why would anyone? But people do.

Particularly if they have button eyes, knitted skin, and someone's hand inside.

Tad, you are truly unimaginative.

Anonymous Happypants May 23, 2014 9:29 PM  

Loki; it amuses me to no end when you all guess incorrectly.

Anonymous Harsh May 23, 2014 9:31 PM  

Why would anyone? But people do.

Not the question I asked.

Anonymous Loki Sjalfsainn May 23, 2014 9:54 PM  

Loki; it amuses me to no end when you all guess incorrectly.

"You all"? Why, how many of me do you see at the moment? Perhaps you should consider diminishing your consumption of cocktails.

Anonymous Happypants May 23, 2014 9:59 PM  

Loki, you ignorant slut. You all = ilk

Anonymous Pops May 23, 2014 10:03 PM  

Actually HP, it's y'all.
Do keep up.

Anonymous Jack Amok May 23, 2014 10:26 PM  

Why should Vox care what others think about his actions?

Conan linked to the Dr. Sanity post on Shame vs Guilt that explains why rabbits would assume Vox cares.

Anonymous (~~~) May 23, 2014 11:25 PM  

Ann Morgan's vag stinks of old cheese

Anonymous CorkyAgain May 23, 2014 11:44 PM  

Sci. Fi. is one of those battlefields, and the idea of entering the battle and then retreating because of the assertion people are getting tired of it, is ludicrous.

Especially when you consider that the way the rabbits have usually succeeded in their takeovers is by dragging things out with endless discussion and petty intrigues, to the point where people with lives to live and better things to do get frustrated or bored and walk away.

When someone tries to reason with a rabbit, the evasive, irrational response is frustrating to say the least. At its worst, it's a kind of crazy-making gaslighting. But since the rabbit's goal is to drive any opposition from the field, or failing that, to disqualify it, none of this is accidental.


Anonymous CorkyAgain May 23, 2014 11:52 PM  

But these warriors are so far on the fringe as to be of no consequence.

Disqualify!

Blogger JDC May 24, 2014 12:59 AM  

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Blogger JDC May 24, 2014 1:01 AM  

I know this is your blog and all but I am worried that the real Vox may never return, lost down the rabbit hole forever.

A lot of faux concern trolls entering the fray. You've never entered a weight-room in the past, yet you stumble into one and notice Vox benching 185 and you insist he get a spotter (as well as suggesting he should use clips). Don't worry compassionate one. The blog will be just fine. 185 is nothing.

Blogger JDC May 24, 2014 1:19 AM  

I apologize for the deleted comment with a comment to follow (I've been doing that a lot lately). After thirty years of chronic headaches I thought I was used to them - sort of like a companion you despise, yet never leaves your side. The last three weeks have been hell, headaches every day - have been barely able to function. I have lost 15 lbs in the last three weeks. The doc even prescribed Vicodin, which makes me feel quite well, but doesn't actually touch the headache. Getting a brain scan later this week. Hope they find something (by that I mean they actually find a brain).

While I'm pining away, Vox a question - if one wishes to submit something to Castalia House, does one use the format designated on the website, save it in PDF and then email it to the castalia house website?

Anonymous Shelly May 24, 2014 2:23 AM  

"And there it is. "Shelly" is Tad. I thought I smelled a familiar troll-stink earlier. Go away Tad."

I don't know who tad is or what a tad is. I know I'm neither him nor it. I'm just here offering observations I think you have missed.

Anonymous JK May 24, 2014 4:08 AM  

Friendly Fire! Vox, I have to wonder if there is another JK posting around here because of your brutal response to what I thought a reasonable observation. Although it probably would have been prudent to check my figures before posting and so apologies for the 2-posts-a-day drivel. And to further add to my education I now know what a concern troll is.
Anyway, Love-your- (non-SFWA/Nebulas)-work Vox.

Blogger Hermit May 24, 2014 11:32 AM  

It's very funny to see a queer accusing others to be mentally ill.

Anonymous Loki Sjalfsainn May 25, 2014 9:46 PM  

Loki, you ignorant slut. You all = ilk

I beg your pardon. I am not an "ilk". I am a god, you dull creature.

Blogger Akulkis May 26, 2014 12:42 AM  


That's still just a longer way of saying that if he could have gotten laid, he wouldn't have killed anyone. "If he could have let go of his sentimentality, then he could have gotten a girl and wouldn't have killed." OK, but what causes extreme sentimentality about women then, since that's the actual issue? Probably fear of men and a desire to use women as a safety blanket.


It's one of the main behavioral indicatorsthat you're dealing with someone who has borderline personality disorder. Also the attention-whoring.

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