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Friday, June 13, 2014

Focusing on the real enemy

I fail to see why anyone is even remotely surprised that the US intelligence apparatus missed the biggest international developments of the year:
United States intelligence agencies were caught by surprise when fighters from the Islamic State of Iraq and al-Sham (ISIS) seized two major Iraqi cities this week and sent Iraqi defense forces fleeing, current and former U.S. officials said Thursday. With U.S. troops long gone from the country, Washington didn't have the spies on the ground or the surveillance gear in the skies necessary to predict when and where the jihadist group would strike.

The speed and ease with which well-armed and highly trained ISIS fighters took over Mosul, Iraq's second-largest city, and Tikrit, the birthplace of former Iraqi ruler Saddam Hussein, have raised significant doubts about the ability of American intelligence agencies to know when ISIS might strike next, a troubling sign as the Islamist group advances steadily closer to Baghdad. And it harkened back to another recent intelligence miscue, in February, when U.S. spy agencies failed to predict the Russian invasion of Crimea. Both events are likely to raise questions about whether the tens of billions of dollars spent every year on monitoring the world's hot spots is paying off -- and what else the spies might be missing.
U.S. intelligence isn't focused on external events or the activities of foreigners, it is focused on American citizens. They're much more concerned about what people like you and me are writing on this blog than they are with whatever the jihadists and Russians are doing. Given that the well-armed and highly trained ISIS fighters were probably armed and trained by the U.S. military, the fact that U.S. intelligence had no idea what they were doing can only indicate a complete lack of interest.

After all, there are millions of Christians and gun owners and military veterans who need to be spied upon and federal intelligence resources are not unlimited. And it's not like U.S. intelligence saw the fall of the Soviet Union coming either.

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Anonymous Barko Ramius June 13, 2014 5:26 AM  

Is there any substance to the claim that the O admin. is seeking to create crisis after crisis in order to effect the next election- Kind of how Bush/Cheney used the color coded terror alerts back when, but on a bigger scale?
Or has the admin. just gone too far to turn back?

Anonymous Sensei June 13, 2014 5:38 AM  

Are there any analogies to this bizarre domestic fixation in Roman history before and/or contributing to the fall?

Anonymous Gamer June 13, 2014 5:42 AM  

What Movement, attack, defense, supply attributes would one assign to these pick up mounted units if he was trying to create a sim? Thx.

Blogger Master Ray June 13, 2014 6:19 AM  

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Blogger lubertdas June 13, 2014 6:21 AM  

Please God, help us survive the Obama administration, and please help the American people to elect adults in the forthcoming elections.

Blogger Cataline Sergius June 13, 2014 6:36 AM  

There is no intelligence apparatus. Not for arab humint. Not anymore. We have jack for legal field officers and none of the contractors want to touch those contracts, (such as they are). I can't blame those guys in the least.

Anonymous VD June 13, 2014 6:51 AM  

What Movement, attack, defense, supply attributes would one assign to these pick up mounted units if he was trying to create a sim? Thx.

I can check the rules for the Chad-Libya Toyota Wars. I believe they had some counters representing machine-gun mounted pickups. In ASL terms, probably 8 FP, no armor, 20 MP.

Anonymous hygate June 13, 2014 7:01 AM  

Who did train them if not the US? Russia is good buddies with the current Iranian regime and China isn't likely. They have their own issues with jihadis. We seem to be the only major power that trains and arms its enemies. Cause smart power.

Anonymous Stg58/Animal Mother June 13, 2014 7:05 AM  

I see people across the Internet explaining what Obama knows, his intentions and goals. I have to laugh. No one knows any of that.

Anonymous Icy Illusion June 13, 2014 7:06 AM  

Barko

That may be part of it although I also think he is trying desperately to provoke the right into doing stuff he can crack down on. The community organizer spends chunks of their time fomenting social unrest so they can direct it to whatever political goals they have. Ultimately whatever stirring of the pot that he can do will be able to be focused in different directions depending on the needs of the moment.

Anonymous casual observer June 13, 2014 7:13 AM  

I see that in a related story the Feds are counselling local PD's on how to cover up their use of Stingray technology that they have been using in local communities to gather cell phone data from users (without a warrant, but that's understood, right?).

Certainly looks like they are prepping for events to spiral out of control in Fortress Amerikwa.

Anonymous zen0 June 13, 2014 7:23 AM  

Who did train them if not the US?

I'm not sure they need much formal training. From what I have read, they have a large 5th column contingent in the Iraqi army and other security groups. A year ago they pulled off a couple of large jail-breaks in Iraq that have had to involve complicity of prison staff.

Also, this story seems to contradict the idea that the Americans did not know what was up:


The Americans have begun to intervene since December when they realized that al-Qaeda is growing in a manner that threatens all of Iraq’s provinces and when they realized that terrorists are preparing their forces and intending to attack Baghdad!

They brought his attention to these threats and told him that al-Qaeda’s power is growing in Anbar. They supported him with reconnaissance operations from Jordan and used drones to attain further information on al-Qaeda. They also provided him with plenty of data and advice but he failed to hold a political reconciliation and his forces failed in their war in Anbar.


Will ISIS Seize Baghdad?

Blogger pdwalker June 13, 2014 7:26 AM  

It's all a matter of priorities. You have to stamp out the domestic threats before you worry about those far away, foreign, places.

Blogger J Curtis June 13, 2014 7:35 AM  

"•Sen. Roy Blunt: 'The chickens are coming home to roost for the president’s policy of not leaving anybody there to be a stabilizing force'


•Sen. John McCain: 'Could all this have been avoided? …The answer is absolutely yes. If I sound angry it's because I am angry'


•Sen. Saxby Chambliss: 'I hope this is a wakeup call for anyone who thinks al-Qaeda or Islamic extremists are "on the run"'

•Sen. Lindsey Graham: 'The next 9/11 is in the making'


•Rep. Ed Royce: 'The Obama Administration doesn’t seem much bothered by the chaos, which impacts U.S. national security interests'

•Rep. Scott Perry: 'Going out across the desert I remember ... wondering if you're going to make it out alive ... What was the point of all of that?'

•Rep. Doug Collins: 'The administration made a choice to cut and run' "

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Anonymous Anonymous June 13, 2014 7:45 AM  

Or has the admin. just gone too far to turn back?

They're feeling their oats. The left is in complete control of all the power centers of the country, more so than ever before: all three branches of government, academia, the media, the military command (that one's fairly new), banking, major corporations, and intelligence. They were worried about that Internet thing for a while, but they seem to have a handle on it now that they control the major search engines and social media, and right-wingers are consigned to a ghetto of blogs like they were with print magazines and alternative newspapers. Even the hierarchies of most of the churches support the left tacitly if not openly.

So they see no need to hold back or pretend anymore; it's time to reap the rewards. If you're a leftist with a pet project you've always wanted to push -- maybe you wish you could legally have a gay harem of young boys, or you'd like to be able to arrest Christians who speak out against perversion -- this looks like the time to go for it. If not now, when?

Blogger Conan the Cimmerian, King of Aquilonia June 13, 2014 7:57 AM  

this looks like the time to go for it. If not now, when?"

Prescient.

Blogger Douglas Pettit June 13, 2014 8:08 AM  

Fuck Obama and all the Obamatards and the US Gubmit. Fuck You ALL.

Blogger Glen Filthie June 13, 2014 8:14 AM  

Correct. But this is only the first stage of the way Obama and his progs intend to change America. Your military is going to be slashed to the point of irrelevancy. The money formerly spent on the military will go to fund welfare slobs and buy votes and pay for democrat pork.
A question for you libertarians watching your freedoms go up in smoke: have you hugged a neocon today? Maybe you should, because you will have a lot better time reasoning and allying with him than you will with the current leadership.

Anonymous Salt June 13, 2014 8:30 AM  

U.S. intelligence isn't focused on external events or the activities of foreigners, it is focused on American citizens.

And so many dismiss the idea of just what this might portend. No one asks the why of it, just assuming it's for our health and safety, baseball, and mom's apple pie.

Anonymous Vic June 13, 2014 8:34 AM  

Funny thing, I washed my pig, and as soon as he could, he headed straight back to the mud hole,

Anonymous Dr. Kenneth Noisewater June 13, 2014 8:35 AM  

A question for you libertarians watching your freedoms go up in smoke: have you hugged a neocon today? Maybe you should, because you will have a lot better time reasoning and allying with him than you will with the current leadership.

No point in picking one sort of statist over another, better to line them ALL up against the same wall and shoot them together.

Anonymous Godfrey June 13, 2014 8:35 AM  

Yep, all those domestic independent minded people with an IQ over a 100 are the real threat. I mean, they question things, right? They think for themselves and dangerous stuff like that. They want to improve their own lives on their own instead of waiting for instructions from the authorities. Hell, they may even have their own gardens! That's way bad! Those evil right-wingers actually have an independent thought and that's so very way bad and dangerous.

Anonymous Godfrey June 13, 2014 8:38 AM  

Job one for US intelligence? Protect the bankers and the fiat monetary scam.

Blogger IM2L844 June 13, 2014 8:39 AM  

This administration clearly can't walk and chew bubble gum at the same time. Obama probably learned about the situation In Iraq the same way he learns about everything else; by watching MSNBC.

Anonymous Mike M. June 13, 2014 8:43 AM  

It would be interesting to see just how the intelligence resources ARE being allocated. I wouldn't be surprised if Vox was right...that men, materiel, and money that should have gone to monitoring events abroad were being diverted to domestic surveillance for partisan political purposes.

Remember, scrape the paint off a liberal and you'll find a totalitarian fascist.

Anonymous PhillipGeorge(c)2014 June 13, 2014 8:51 AM  

the fruit of the tree of relativism......

multiculturalism isn't merely an insult to Jesus. It is step one to a civil war inwhich you have agreed to blind fold yourself, tie your hands behind your own back and maybe fight with a chain around both ankles.

c'est la vie. except Doris Day is long gone.



Barack Obama's foreign policy or Kenyan's sing it straight from the heart

Anonymous Athor Pel June 13, 2014 8:55 AM  

We know the US has troops in Jordan. Unless things have changed dramatically since I was in then that means the military has all of its electronic intel gathering tools there, on the ground, listening.

It also means the military has some or all of its eyes in the sky, plane and satellite, keeping an eye on things around those troops.

So basically, Syria and the border regions of Iraq and Syria are being watched 24/7.

Can things be hidden from those sensors? Certainly. But that requires knowledge of what is being watched, when it is being watched and what types of sensors are doing the watching. The only way to get certain pieces of that information is to have enough money to buy it, satellite schedules for example. Other parts of it can be gotten merely by operating in close proximity to US troops for long periods of time, through trial and error basically.

To describe what I'm talking about. If you know a satellite passes overhead then you time your movements to the sensor going over the horizon. If you know the enemy is listening to a certain radio frequency then you don't use that frequency or you use it for disinoformation.

Here's a more specific example A radio network operated by one of the Mexican drug cartels over most of northern Mexico and large portions of the US was only recently discovered because authorities caught the guy that designed and ran it. It used off the shelf radio gear and desktop computers, you could buy any of it at Radio Shack. An example of security through obscurity.


There is a second option. All of those sensors have been watching those ISIS troops this whole time and every time they do something report worthy then the US troop seeing it files the report just as their orders say they should. But once the report reaches the decision makers it is ignored. I'm doubtful of this mechanism though since too many eyes see the same things


I just thought of a third option. Change the tasking for all the intel gathering assets so that a hole is created, a hole a division sized military unit, ISIS, can operate in with impunity. Everybody assumes the blind spot in their coverage is being handled by some other unit and nobody sees anything. Actually, this is a pretty likely scenario given the compartmented nature of US classified information structure.

Blogger CM June 13, 2014 8:59 AM  

Neocons are to concerned about nominating a candidate who can win independents - their base be damned.

Blogger Michael June 13, 2014 9:01 AM  

I don't think this has that much to do with Obama.

Our foreign "intelligence" has missed most every major event in the last 20 years. It appears they are simply no longer competent or capable.

We know Angela Merkel's dinner plans, but an entire army is on the move and we don't have a clue.

Anonymous PhillipGeorge(c)2014 June 13, 2014 9:03 AM  

alright then Athor Pel, ISIS are exactly where the USA want them to be. Then the question regresses to "who are the USA"?

It is the more disturbing question by far.

Anonymous aero June 13, 2014 9:14 AM  

perverts are in control. Yes, they don't like us to know what they are doing.
What do you call an individual that indices a child in to their car or house? What should we call a government that does the same thing.
Its a power trip for them. they have these new captives to manipulate for there own pleasure.

Anonymous fnn June 13, 2014 9:22 AM  

Correct. But this is only the first stage of the way Obama and his progs intend to change America. Your military is going to be slashed to the point of irrelevancy.

Nah, they still need the military to impose "progessivism" (i.e., Anti-Westernism, anti-whitism, banksterist secular hedonist consumerism) on the world. What they're doing can be confusing, since they simultaneously want to tame the Muslims and also use them to dispossess the remaining European populations. This is the policy of the elites as a whole, not just the left. The crippling of the American Empire is the only thing that can prevent the destruction of Euro populations worldwide.

Anonymous This is a real quote from a feminist June 13, 2014 9:28 AM  

Imani Richards (@ImaniGoddess) tweeted at 0:27 AM on Fri, Jun 13, 2014: Fathers Day should be renamed to Semen Day, because that's what men contribute to families. #EndFathersDay (https://twitter.com/ImaniGoddess/status/477306180331913216)

Anonymous Roundtine June 13, 2014 9:30 AM  

Kissinger was right about the Iran-Iraq War—it's a pity both sides can't lose. The Middle East going up in smoke is not a negative outcome. Obama should airlift in a ton of heavy weapons and drop them all in Kurdistan, then GTFO.

Anonymous PhillipGeorge(c)2014 June 13, 2014 9:30 AM  

Or let's rephrase that: George Clooney can make a coherent foreign policy declaration about Sudan's human rights abuses. One man can make a compelling, coherent, articulate statement.

It is so much easier to believe the corporation of the USA is incompetent than to believe they are engineering an apocalypse.

So "who are the USA?" is a deeply disturbing question.

But "ground" the question. Abiogenesis means Jesus is probably who He said He is. Any and all
anti christs can only function on lies.
ergo. militia remains the wild card. So will a hundred million nominal christians lift a finger? 24 hours is a long time in politics.

Anonymous This is a real quote from a feminist June 13, 2014 9:31 AM  

Daniella Herzog (@DaniellaHerzog) tweeted at 7:52 PM on Tue, Jun 10, 2014: #FathersDay is so offensive to same-sex parents and single mothers! Stop the #Patriarchy and #BANFATHERSDAY - #YesAllWomen #Feminism (https://twitter.com/DaniellaHerzog/status/476512377064525826)

Anonymous Anonymous June 13, 2014 9:31 AM  

Nah, they still need the military to impose "progessivism" (i.e., Anti-Westernism, anti-whitism, banksterist secular hedonist consumerism) on the world.

Right. Leftists only hated the military when it was a fairly right-wing organization that they didn't control. Now that they've brought it to heel and have four-star generals parroting PC lines about diversity, they're quite happy with it as another tool. See also the cops and the corporations. It's not 1969 anymore.

Anonymous CLK June 13, 2014 9:34 AM  

There as no miss here .. the Shia controlled government had moved too close to the Iranian's .. the Sunni are the enemy of the Iranian.

The first objective was to create a democratic government .. The US gave it a good shot but it was clear that democracy doesn't work ... the next best choice would have be the return of Saddam .. but unfortunately he was dead. So now we go to choice "C" -- a week state with the kurds, shia and sunni at each other - a constant state of minimal war.

What the Neocons seemed to forget was that within the middle east there was a 1000+ years of hated .. creating an inclusive government is not an option there and thus democracy would not work .. there are reasons why people like Saddam, Pahlavi, Gadafi, Nasser, Sadat, Assad, Mubarak existed .. .. it was really the only way that peace existed.

Both Iran and Iraq under their "dictatorships" were modern countries with good education, healthcare ... now they are shit holes.

The middle east is atleast a 1000 years away from being able to be a real democracy.

IMHO


Anonymous This is a real quote from a feminist June 13, 2014 9:38 AM  

Tasha Polwright (@TashaPolwright) tweeted at 6:03 AM on Fri, Jun 13, 2014: #SingleMothersDay #endfathersday because who really needs a father? Boys don't need a rape instructor. http://t.co/idqBv0baYm (https://twitter.com/TashaPolwright/status/477390782270148608)

Anonymous CLK June 13, 2014 9:41 AM  

This is what the Iraqis wanted .. the US wanted to maintain a presence there but could not work out the Status of Forces so the US left ....

I bet they wish there were some more of those "US oppressors and occupiers" there now...

Anonymous John Regan June 13, 2014 9:54 AM  

Well, to be fair, there's so much information to sift through that generally speaking "intelligence" is only useful after the fact.

I talked a little about the information overload with respect to the Snowden business

You can collect everything. That doesn't mean anyone in particular knows anything in particular. Until of course something happens. Then there's a contest to see whether anyone should get credit. Or blame, as the case may be.

Blogger Gunnar von Cowtown June 13, 2014 10:00 AM  

I can't stop chuckling over all the articles Mentioning U.S. intelligence, foreign despots and ISIS in the same breath. Am I the only one of the dread ilk who watches Archer? Come on!

Anonymous Will Best June 13, 2014 10:10 AM  

U.S. intelligence isn't focused on external events or the activities of foreigners, it is focused on American citizens.

Well obviously. The boys at the DoD have enough toys to deter anything but superficial attacks on the US. The biggest threat to the US government, and the intelligence community specifically, is internal not foreign.

Anonymous Will Best June 13, 2014 10:16 AM  

Incidentally, if Obama were playing chess along side Putin and not the tic-tac-toe he actually is playing this wouldn't be a bad move since a super majority of the oil contracts went to Russian and Chinese interests.

Blogger swiftfoxmark2 June 13, 2014 10:18 AM  

And it's not like U.S. intelligence saw the fall of the Soviet Union coming either.

Ludwig von Mises did when it first started up. So sad that Statists don't seem to really learn from the people who were right.

Anonymous Anonymous June 13, 2014 10:20 AM  

Am I the only one of the dread ilk who watches Archer?

Never seen it, but I grew up watching the Shazam! Isis Hour. Man, kids will watch anything, won't they?

Anonymous Anonymous June 13, 2014 10:24 AM  

So will a hundred million nominal christians lift a finger? 24 hours is a long time in politics.

This one will.

In my prayers over the last 4 or 5 years, God tells me that, "He has stopped them"--past tense. Being human, I have doubted that and have told God my anxieties and anger at the evil ones in our land as they continue their evil and destruction.
I have been praying for years asking what my role is to be and for courage to do what needs doing when I am afraid and in doubt.

Out of the blue, God answered my prayer in a way you Christians will find reasonable--you heathen, not so much.

I was putting up a grocery cart at the store; I had been praying as I shopped and walked voicing my troubles about our country to God. The same prayers that have been going on for years. I put the cart in the return bin and looking up to walk back to my car,
I saw a vanity plate on a car right ahead of me that read, "Prayer Changes Things".

I knew at that moment that it was God answering me directly and that we are going to win this thing. I laughed and smiled.

To those who have heard God's voice and felt His hand, you know the surety and faith I am talking about.

We are in a fight for Christianity and our land. Let's do our Lord and our Fore-fathers proud.


Blogger David June 13, 2014 10:25 AM  

>Ludwig von Mises did when it first started up. So sad that Statists don't seem to really learn from the people who were right.

Mises irrefutably showed in his 1922 book, "Socialism," that "socialist economies" (Oxymoron Alert) must misallocate scarce resources and by definition cannot escape growing poorer.

That hasn't stopped many very, very intelligent people from trying to square the circle. Why? Because it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter for the same reason that people still practice receptive anal intercourse despite a high school level of biology illustrating how unhealthy that must be.

People do what they want, and facts that argue against it are either invisible or mercilessly attacked (well, at least they try to shoot the messengers.)

Anonymous YIH June 13, 2014 10:33 AM  

There was a thought in the back of my mind maybe about a year ago ''what would happen if this Syria $#!+ spills over into Iraq (if the opposite hasn't already happened)''.
So it's quite possible that some of those ''al-Quida in Iraq'' already had done just that and were being supplied with arms by John McAmnesty and the Saudis. This works to their goal - get US troops back into Iraq (doing 'the surge' once again) and into Syria to fight alongside ''the rebels'' that are most likely just as willing to take the fight to us as to anyone else.
But hey Glen Filthy what has taken place since '03 In 1996, Perle and others influenced by Lewis will write a paper for right wing Israeli leader Benjamin Netanyahu entitled “A Clean Break” that advocates the “lebanonization” of countries like Iraq and Syria seems to working just as planned. And that it butchers lots of American ''cattle'' is just icing on the cake, isn't it?

Anonymous LES June 13, 2014 10:34 AM  

Cui bono? Isn't this a case of "let's you and him fight?" Israel will pick up the pieces to expand its borders "from the river in Egypt to the Euphrates River (in Iraq)." Genesis 15:18

Blogger David June 13, 2014 10:34 AM  

> The biggest threat to the US government, and the intelligence community specifically, is internal not foreign.

The paradox is that what our rulers should fear most is a loss of popular consent, not some bastard in a truck packed with Ammonium Nitrate and Diesel Fuel.

Our rulers' belief in the power in their fists actually undermines popular consent as the Common Man is troubled by militarized cops acting like an army of occupation and the NSA/congress/executive/judicial cabal attempts to rewrite the plain language of the (supposed) Law of the Land.

Consent is like Jello. Squeezed by the handful, it just squirts out from between the mailed fists of our overlords.

Mankind has always been ruled by scum. And for the theists in the audience, recall that Satan promised Christ any of the kingdoms of Man, because they were Satan's to give. Every kingdom of Man is thus Satan's. Always has been, always will be.

Blogger Gunnar von Cowtown June 13, 2014 10:39 AM  

Never seen it, but I grew up watching the Shazam! Isis Hour.

Ha! Quality entertainment, cailcorishev.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fu7WZgROzy8

Combine that with the life's work of Sid & Marty Krofft, and I have a really hard time arguing against The War on Drugs.

Anonymous YIH June 13, 2014 10:42 AM  

cailcorishev:
Never seen it, but I grew up watching the Shazam! Isis Hour. Man, kids will watch anything, won't they?
Same here, god was that cheesy. For those who didn't, think a Saturday morning version of ''the six million dollar man/bionic woman'' dressed up with classic superhero tropes.

Anonymous RedJack June 13, 2014 11:01 AM  

They are worried about the more immediate threat. For the .gov that is the people at home.

One of the worrying things about the latest Vegas killing is that they were targeting cops. Once that becomes popular, FedGov's get rather nervous.

Blogger TontoBubbaGoldstein June 13, 2014 11:04 AM  

.... you Christians will find reasonable--you heathen, not so much. ...

Can't speak for the Christians, but...yeah...you were prescient about my 'heathen" reaction.

Anonymous Anonymous June 13, 2014 11:05 AM  

The saddest part: I went to YouTube to look up Shazam! Isis videos, and the very first one that came up was a one-minute lecture from Isis on racial and cultural sensitivity. That stuff wasn't as ubiquitous then, but it was well underway by the mid-70s. At that point it was just, "Hey, don't hate people for being different," which is hard to argue with; but unfortunately it paved the way for today's diversity cult.

Blogger TontoBubbaGoldstein June 13, 2014 11:13 AM  

I bet they wish there were some more of those "US oppressors and occupiers" there now...

I'll bet they wish we hadn't effed with them for the past 20 some odd years. Sadaam was a MF if you got on his bad side...but, overall, the state of Iraq , and the life of the average Iraqi citizen, was way better than we will likely see again in our lifetime.

Anonymous The other skeptic June 13, 2014 11:16 AM  

That is because they don't consider the ragheads to be the enemy.

Anonymous hausfrau June 13, 2014 11:16 AM  

The powers that be have other priorities, like disrupting non-violent protests and grass roots movements. Considering for inflation is something around %20, their priorities are well placed for an oppressor.

http://www.theguardian.com/environment/earth-insight/2014/jun/12/pentagon-mass-civil-breakdown

Anonymous Anonymous June 13, 2014 11:39 AM  

.... you Christians will find reasonable--you heathen, not so much. ...

Can't speak for the Christians, but...yeah...you were prescient about my 'heathen" reaction.


(:

I know because I was one.

cheers.

Blogger Russell Lemley June 13, 2014 11:44 AM  

It's Princess Leia's clenched fist, star systems through fingers thing...

Anonymous patrick kelly June 13, 2014 12:07 PM  

"but, overall, the state of Iraq , and the life of the average Iraqi citizen, was way better than we will likely see again in our lifetime."

Same with Syria.

Anonymous Mr. Stubby June 13, 2014 12:25 PM  

Everything going according to plan.

Hobgoblins and chaos is the American way.

Anonymous Jack Amok June 13, 2014 12:31 PM  

The biggest threat to the US government, and the intelligence community specifically, is internal not foreign

Yes, but only if you consider "the US government" to be the current people holding office rather than the system that's been in place for 225 years. Which of course Liberals almost certainly do. They are always, willing to trash any tradition, any law, any longstanding social contract that stands in the way of them doing whatever half-baked thing they've decided should be done.

If "the US Government" is the Constitution, traditions and servant of the American people, then the 3%ers are no threat. If "the US Government" is Barak Obama, Harry Reid, Eric Holder and the rest, well, not just the 3%ers, but anyone who disagrees with them and votes is a threat.


Anonymous Mo ham please! June 13, 2014 12:49 PM  

Yes, soon the yellow cake will be baked and ready delivery. All we need is the icing. I hope our friends in Washington will love the surprise party we have planned for them. Jim Hadd is willing to deliver the yummy morsels. He will then be able to get home,relax and enjoy his extra virgin olive oles. Any hoo, best wishes from our brothers in the midwest!

Anonymous ogunsiron June 13, 2014 12:57 PM  

This is a real quote from a feminist June 13, 2014 9:28 AM

Imani Richards (@ImaniGoddess) tweeted at 0:27 AM on Fri, Jun 13, 2014: Fathers Day should be renamed to Semen Day, because that's what men contribute to families. #EndFathersDay (https://twitter.com/ImaniGoddess/status/477306180331913216)
----
that little ho was also tweeting that, by definition, a white woman (or white anything) can't be raped by a person of color because all whites have more power than all POCs and therefore a POC can't rape a white person, ever.
It'd be interesting to see if jemisin has ever agreed with #whitescantberaped. Speaking of jemisin, she greatly admires that nambla loving Sam Delany.

Blogger W.LindsayWheeler June 13, 2014 1:15 PM  

These events show the total and complete idiocy of the Bush presidency. He and his Neocon advisors are a bunch of idiots. If Saddam was still in Power this wouldn't have happened whatsoever!!! Bush was a freakin' idiot--him and his dad. Saddam Hussein had NOTHING to do with 9-11, had NO weapons of mass destruction. Saddam was totally against Al-Qaida. Now, Al-Qaida is invading and taking over Iraq---what a turn of events!!!!!!

Any body say "Egg on Bush's face". All those NeoCon Jews that pushed the Iraqi war on us. This just shows how stupid they really are!!! Amen! I am rooting for ISIS to totally take over Iraq!

Screw you Bush!!!

Anonymous Jack Amok June 13, 2014 1:23 PM  

Hey Wheeler, in case you haven't noticed, Bush has been an ex-President for going on six years and keeping a lower profile than most. Eric Holder and Martin Dempsey are not his doing. Might as well bitch about FDR or Woodrow Wilson and their mistakes.

Bush is not our problem at the moment, and whether or not he was a problem in the past, he won't be in the future.

Blogger John Regan June 13, 2014 2:20 PM  

"Mankind has always been ruled by scum. And for the theists in the audience, recall that Satan promised Christ any of the kingdoms of Man, because they were Satan's to give. Every kingdom of Man is thus Satan's. Always has been, always will be."


David!! Probably a valid deduction as far as it goes, but it sure puts a damper on incentives to improve things. I mean, the economist in you must appreciate the value of incentives if nothing else, right?

Anyway I'm not sure you can deduce that much from one scripture passage. I'm open to the idea that Satan rules the world in a mysterious way that doesn't make every ruler into a Satanic scum, though.

Blogger CarpeOro June 13, 2014 2:42 PM  

" Am I the only one of the dread ilk who watches Archer? Come on!"

Kind of lost interest as it morphed into Archer - Vice. Stopped watching.

Blogger Scott June 13, 2014 2:45 PM  

They're much more concerned about what people like you and me are writing on this blog than they are with whatever the jihadists and Russians are doing.

And the irony is we are writing on your blog precisely because they're focused on us and not them.

Blogger W.LindsayWheeler June 13, 2014 2:48 PM  

There was once six forms of government, i.e. Monarchy, Dictatorship, aristocracy, oligarchy, republicanism, and democracy. Americans invented a seventh form of government---an Idiocracy. America is just full of idiots.

Anonymous Jack Amok June 13, 2014 3:21 PM  

The world is full of idiots Wheeler, as you keep reminding us.

Anonymous ENthePeasant June 13, 2014 3:39 PM  

It's not been widely reported but this is something Obama agreed to. I was quite happy when we abandoned the place... but then I started hearing that we had an agreement with the Iraqis to provide us with intel from inside the country and Iran. None of it ever came to be. Professional Navy and Army intel people questioned this for a couple of years... but then were told to back off.

Call me crazy but Occam's Razor is the method. Obama is intentionally destroying this country. I have no idea who he's working for or if he's doing it on his own, and to even discuss that is academic. He's intentionally ruined our ability to respond with great economy in Iraq and Syria. I have no idea what he's thinking beyond the destruction of this country. He needs to go NOW... or reap the whirlwind.

Anonymous Michael Maier June 13, 2014 3:50 PM  

Gunnar von Cowtown June 13, 2014 10:00 AM I can't stop chuckling over all the articles Mentioning U.S. intelligence, foreign despots and ISIS in the same breath. Am I the only one of the dread ilk who watches Archer? Come on!


***COUGH**COUGH*****ARGUS!!!!***COUGH**COUGH**

Anonymous Anonymous June 13, 2014 4:04 PM  

"Mankind has always been ruled by scum. And for the theists in the audience, recall that Satan promised Christ any of the kingdoms of Man, because they were Satan's to give. Every kingdom of Man is thus Satan's. Always has been, always will be."

The Post-millennial view has Christians remaking the world to His glory. "Thy kingdom come, thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven..."





Anonymous Anonymous June 13, 2014 4:06 PM  

Just last week bob k. mando said he would be away for a bit.
since then the ME. is on the verge of WWIII.

Coincidence?


Blogger Laguna Beach Fogey June 13, 2014 5:01 PM  

Anyone else see this:

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A US Department of Defense (DoD) research programme is funding universities to model the dynamics, risks and tipping points for large-scale civil unrest across the world, under the supervision of various US military agencies. The multi-million dollar programme is designed to develop immediate and long-term "warfighter-relevant insights" for senior officials and decision makers in "the defense policy community," and to inform policy implemented by "combatant commands."

http://www.theguardian.com/environment/earth-insight/2014/jun/12/pentagon-mass-civil-breakdown

Anonymous ENthePeasant June 13, 2014 6:33 PM  

And they've lost a couple of years worth of Lener's emails. Good sign in a way. Destroying this evidence is such a radical step that we can now be sure Obama Akbar his own self is behind the targetting of the tea party by the IRS.

Anonymous Azimus June 13, 2014 6:39 PM  

Are there any Libertarians in here today? I thought Libertarians wanted the troops and the spooks to come home? Well, they're 1 for 2.

Anonymous ENthePeasant June 13, 2014 7:08 PM  

I certainly want the troops to come home but would prefer we stay abreast of goings on in the world. And admittedly I'm worried. Today was the last straw. Obama has done everything possible to install a caliphate in the Arab world, to including arming Islamic forces. That's not going to turn out well in the long run and stands a huge chance of dragging us back to into the shit. There's ways to intervene without intervening. Now our options are just about gone.

Anonymous Mr. Stubby June 13, 2014 8:07 PM  

Bush is not our problem at the moment, and whether or not he was a problem in the past, he won't be in the future.

Yeah. BUT... we all know that if Bush were our "miss me yet" president still, the Booslim would have been vanquished.

The sad fact is, our democratically elected presidents are per-cursors of what to expect in the future. You think Obama is bad? Wait until they set that hook in Russia's jaw and yank with a vengeance.

Anonymous clk June 13, 2014 9:21 PM  

No need to intervene ... this all to plan. Right now iran is sending in troops.. their attention is now laser focused. Saudi arabia is supporrting the sunnis and now we will have 10 years of a new iran iraq wars .. but with the kurds and oil safely seperated. This was plan c.

Anonymous clk June 13, 2014 9:32 PM  

And i dont know how many times i have to say this .. if you are on this blog "they" are not interested in you so dont flatter yourselves... If they wanted us dead.. we would already be dead. They dont hate christians ... we generally pay our bills and follow the law, are peaceful and civilized... perfect consumers.

Anonymous The other skeptic June 14, 2014 12:21 AM  

Perhaps they should worry about AIDS among AfAms

Also, higher levels of sexually transmitted infections (STIs) among African Americans facilitate sexual transmission of HIV. In fact, African Americans are the ethnic group most affected for every type of STI. For example, the prevalence of certain STIs among African Americans compared to white people was: 6.8 times higher for chlamydia, 15 times higher for gonorrhea, and 6 times higher for syphilis. 6 Untreated STIs, especially those that cause sores, heighten the chance of HIV transmission.

Anonymous bolo-toto June 14, 2014 12:26 AM  

People, this is what is really going on:

Syrian Election Embarrassment to US and Israel

Since guns are never OT here, ask yourself, would you want this guy for your next POTUS?

The 300 Blackout

Yes, the very same guy:

Mike and Gordon on 6/6/14 (classified material discussed)

Anonymous Doubtful June 14, 2014 3:22 AM  

**After all, there are millions of Christians and gun owners and military veterans who need to be spied upon and federal intelligence resources are not unlimited.**

Of all these, how many have an attention span (to provable events of this world) of more than two weeks, actually live by their own principles rather than spending most of their time violating their principles themselves while trying to force others to live by them, and are provably willing to lose something significant like their jobs, in order to stand by their convictions?

Anonymous Stilicho June 14, 2014 5:41 AM  

Athor, even with compartmentalization, there is too much overlap to avoid notice of a hole that large. Also, there is pretty much 24-7 coverage of every area of interest, so the old time-your-movements tactic isn't nearly as useful these days. What does work are old-fashioned couriers and radio/electronic silence. The Iraqis had that lesson taught to them in a very bloody fashion by the Mullahs back in the 80's. They learned it well at the tactical level and the current crops of jihadis have learned it as well. This is also why you have the NSA spending so much time and money searching for patterns in who is contacting whom before, during, and after operations/activities. Old methods aren't as effective when minimizing comms is an acceptable counter. When suspicious patterns are detected, additional resources (imagery, humint, etc.) can be justified and brought to bear on the region or activities in question. So, my questions are along the lines of why did we do nothing to stop this, rather why didn't we know. Cui bono? I suspect our current administration would not mind seeing a Wahabi-backed Sunni country carved out of Syria and Iraq. However, one cannot discount the possibility of Obama/Kerry et al. simply being indecisive and not having a coherent plan while being overwhelmed by the pace of events.

As for why this happened when it did, it could be a CIA-style plot, but it is more likely to be a matter of water running down hill. What I mean is this: we (and the Saudis) provide arms and training to various Syrian rebel groups and their Al Qaeda friends to fight the Assad regime. However, the regime that uses Hama Rules is no easy nut to crack, and there was this nice ripe plum next door, ready to be plucked...QED. The reaction of the Kurds was predictable as was the reaction of Iran supporting the Shia in the south. In one fell swoop, Iraq is partitioned and the jihadis have a Wahabi-backed Sunni stronghold from which they can continue their war against Assad. Watch for Iran to back Syria as well if and when Syria (Assad) tries to add that portion of Iraq to its domains (provided Assad can win the current civil war). Iran knows it can work with Syria where it cannot work with the Saudis.

Anonymous Anonymous June 14, 2014 8:41 AM  

Of all these, how many have an attention span (to provable events of this world) of more than two weeks, actually live by their own principles rather than spending most of their time violating their principles themselves while trying to force others to live by them, and are provably willing to lose something significant like their jobs, in order to stand by their convictions?

At least one.

Anonymous The other skeptic June 14, 2014 5:11 PM  

Although this might be Vox's point, it's not like Canada or Mexico are a real threat, and it's pretty hard for Al Q to invade.

The real threat is white people ... as I am sure the Zulu's after Rorke's Drift found out when the British Lancers arrived. Getting one of their pig stickers up the ass would have been no fun, even if you were dying from having received one of those .557 rounds.

Anonymous Anonymous June 14, 2014 7:03 PM  

OT: (but frequently a subject of discussion on this blog) This may be a data point during the next discussion of
Noah's flood

Anonymous Anonymous June 14, 2014 7:20 PM  

Mass shooting of unarmed Iraqi men. Very graphic. very sad. scroll to bottom. http://justpaste.it/fusg.

Obama, Feinstein, Reid and Pelosi want me disarmed; I think I will keep my guns.

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