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Sunday, August 03, 2014

And why might that be?

Charles Krauthammer, an American Jew, laments the resurgence of world anti-semitism. And yet, neither he nor anyone else ever seems to ask the obvious question: why is it resurging now? Are we expected to believe that it is a complete coincidence that various peoples around the world suddenly appear to have developed, apropos of nothing at all, a sudden and simultaneous dislike for a relatively small group of people?
[T]he other problem for Israel has been the inability to win over public opinion around the world. “The rest of the world's reaction to what's happening in Gaza is Orwellian,” Krauthammer said. “It is shocking, especially in Europe. It is a resurgence of anti-Semitism not seen since the `30s, this is a recurrence, it's all over the world, and don't tell me its anti-Zionism. You listen to the slogan, you see the sign, Hitler was right in Germany, a sign in Germany saying that this is a veneer that is a front for anti-Semitism and it is back. It's all over the world. And that's what we're now beginning to face.
I've been warning of this resurgence for several years now, as I picked up the first signs of it during the 2008 financial crisis. Now that it's being mentioned in the mainstream media, perhaps more people will begin to take the matter seriously. The first thing people have to understand is that emo-posturing and affecting shock and horror accomplishes absolutely nothing. The guilt trip simply doesn't work anymore and it's time to abandon the Holocaustian dodge. The Shoah wasn't the worstey worstest event in human history; far worse genocides, both in terms of absolute numbers and percentages of the people being targeted, have occurred since. It's not even the worst thing to have happened to the people of Israel in their history, 11/12 being considerably more than half.

One would do well to reflect upon why the Roman treatment of the Jews was so much harsher than their treatment of nearly every other people they conquered from Britain to Egypt, aside from the Carthaginians. Were the Romans mysteriously anti-semitic too or did the Jews manage to upset them in some manner? Regardless, the fact that nearly everyone with any direct experience of the Endlosung is now dead, combined with the fact that the world is considerably less Eurocentric than it was, means that virtually no one gives a damn about the Holocaust anymore. That card is played out.

Try it on the Chinese. Or the Cambodians. You're going to expect tears, cash, and prizes for six million people killed during the biggest war on the planet seven decades ago when the Chinese more recently offed eight times that many of their own people over nothing more than resource allocation and lunatic political theory? Ask the average half-illiterate 80-IQ American public school student about the Holocaust and he's as likely to think it has something to do with slavery or Palestine as World War II.

Another American Jew, Richard Cohen, is aware of perspectives changing: "A recent survey by the Pew Research Center found that among Americans age 65 or older, 53 percent blame Hamas for the violence and 15 percent Israel. For those ages 18 to 29, Israel is blamed by 29 percent of those questioned, Hamas by just 21 percent." 

Second, understand that the resurgence of anti-semitism is happening for a reason. What that reason may be is up for discussion, but not that logic dictates its existence. Anti-semitism can be irrational but it is not always so, and pretending otherwise is both disingenuous and futile. The world knows what Ben Bernanke did last summer, so to speak. The world knows who is funding President Goldman Sachs and it understands why the head of a petty state in the Middle East can tell him off and expect him to fall in line. The world knows that the U.S. Congress is Israeli-occupied territory. The world knows who owns Hollywood, the U.S. media, and the bailed-out banks. The world knows who has been flooding its nations with third-world barbarians who don't even understand the concept of indoor plumbing.

And the world doesn't like it. Not one little bit. Actions have consequences; the problem is that the consequences are not always proportionate.

It's absolutely useless to try to continue hiding behind claims of Jewish wonderfulness, supercapability and work ethos. First, virtually no one buys it. Too many of us know how the game is played; too many of us have seen incompetent, inept, and lazy Jews advanced in tribal fashion over far more capable, competent, and responsible Gentiles. Too many of us observe that Germany and China appear to be doing rather well these days despite lacking the benefit of Jewish guidance. Second, and much more importantly, no one cares why.

Does this mean that I endorse this rising tide of anti-semitism? No, of course not, otherwise I wouldn't have warned Jews of it in the first place. If I were anti-semitic, I would smile like a helpful SS-Totenkopfverbände officer meeting a train and tell every nervous Krauthammer and Cohen on board not to worry, everything is just fine, everything is in order, isn't it shocking that some of those terrible animals in the Holy Land can't seem to get over their irrational hatreds of your wonderful people!

But I understand why the hatred exists and I know that it is, to a certain extent, merited. It observably is. Jews don't have to like that fact, they don't even have to accept it, but they will have to deal with it nevertheless. And I also suspect that the growing hatred is going to get out of hand as the global economy worsens, that the innocent will be caught up in the angry tide along with the red-handed guilty.

The idea that post-nationalism and demographic divide-and-conquer would make the Jews in America safer was intrinsically wrong, as wrong as the idea that amassing vast wealth and political influence serves as an effective form of community protection for a small minority. People like helpless refugees. People rather like grateful immigrants who settle quietly in their own communities and gradually integrate over time. People hate rich people who tell them what to do. And people really, really hate rich and powerful foreigners with supremacy complexes who tell them what to do while settling criminally-inclined aliens in their neighborhoods.

In successfully attacking the white Anglo-Saxon Protestant nature of America, Jews destroyed the American exceptionalism that offered them protection. Now that it is essentially gone, Jews have not only lost a reliable Gentile shield against global anti-semitism, but aside from Christian Zionists like Sarah Palin who fly the flag of Israel in their churches, the white Anglo-Saxons who previously defended them are no longer much inclined to do so. And, contra Spengler, I very much doubt that the Chinese are likely to serve as an adequate substitute for white American Christians. Reflect on what the Han have done to the peaceful, harmless people of Tibet and then think about how well they are likely respond to tribal gamesmanship.

You can argue if you like. You can call me names if you like. You'll hardly be the first. But look at it logically: if anti-semitism is like the weather or cancer, then the world will just have to suffer it forever without much hope of anything changing until such time as the Jews finally go the way of the Amalekites. My perspective is actually the optimistic one, because if the rise in anti-semitism is largely a rational reaction to material Jewish actions, it should be possible to avoid its most dangerous forms, outside of those implacable sentiments genuinely inspired by the ongoing territorial conflict in the Middle East.

If you seek pro-Israeli propaganda, you'll have to go elsewhere. If you wish to read anti-semitic rantings, this isn't the place to find them. On this controversial subject, as with all others, I am only interested in the truth and its probable ramifications for the future. If I am incorrect, by all means, feel free to show me how and I will modify my thinking. But if you have nothing but groundless assertions and fervent personal opinions to offer, you needn't bother.

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Blogger Mr.MantraMan August 03, 2014 9:11 AM  

Their organizing principle for placing them as the "enlightened elite" over society The Blank Slate Theory is also being exposed as a total fraud.

Anonymous fish August 03, 2014 9:27 AM  

I can't imagine this thread getting more than 3 or 4 posts.....tops!

Anonymous Shibes Meadow August 03, 2014 9:30 AM  

PopMaster Turbo 2000 Nuclear-powered Popcorn Popper to HEAT!

Anonymous hideous August 03, 2014 9:32 AM  

Vox, it is time to face the final truth (your tribe is Cherokee, right?)!

http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/831180-geneticist-traces-mysterious-origins-of-native-americans-to-middle-east-ancient-greece/

Science has spoken and you can now update your blog sub-title appropriately.

Anonymous VD August 03, 2014 9:35 AM  

No, not Cherokee, I'm afraid. And not Comanche either; I was kind of hoping for that.

Blogger stats August 03, 2014 9:51 AM  

All my Jewish/Zionist frustration played out in the Et tu, Bibi thread. This doesn't finish anytime soon. Too many Christian Zionist in the South. Mostly clueless and have no real experience with Jews. It's all very distant and abstract. And they get a warm glow of Christian righteousness every time they contribute to some Zionist Fund. Fundies are not the brightest and it takes years to convince them of the obvious.

Blogger El Borak August 03, 2014 9:51 AM  

Epic rant is epic.

Anonymous Will Best August 03, 2014 9:57 AM  

When people talk about anti-antisemitism, I point out that it doesn't help that no matter the crisis there is always a handful of Jews at the center of it figuring prominently which is statistically unlikely given they are only 2% of the US population.

Anonymous VD August 03, 2014 9:57 AM  

This doesn't finish anytime soon. Too many Christian Zionist in the South.

I don't think the USA is the short term concern. Europe and Asia are the more immediate problems. But as recent events along the southern border have demonstrated, the USA is not immune to disruption.

Anonymous George Pal August 03, 2014 10:01 AM  

Out of no love for world Jewry or evangelical devotion I am of a nature that would support the Zionist state because the default position is always to go with the civilized over the barbaric. On the other hand, I haven’t bought into the Jews being the smartest people in the room or on the planet for some time. I think that notion is debunked by the half life of 'never again’. Judging by Jewish appeasement of Islam outside Zion, it seems to be considerably less than fifty years. Not too bright.

Blogger Shimshon August 03, 2014 10:05 AM  

I was just seeing this play out in miniature. I have an old non-Jewish friend on FB who has posted a number of links on his wall in support of Gaza since the war started. He's a lefty American to be sure, but his rhetoric, and even that of his fellow lefty friends, were far from the heated European level. He has several other Jewish friends. On one post that all three of us were involved in. while the discourse was civil, by the end he asked that we three stop commenting on his posts regarding Israel. He considered the topic closed to debate, and even if he posted on the subject was not interested in going over the same points over and over. It was a very politely worded request. Which we all agreed to. And the other two promptly ignored. I mean, these guys were obnoxious in their persistence. There was no point at all to what they do were doing other than to sow seeds of animosity against the Jews. He finally vented in a separate post, mildly rebuking them. And even then, one of them whines and plays the "censorship" card.

Anonymous Porky August 03, 2014 10:05 AM  

Too many Christian Zionist in the South. Mostly clueless and have no real experience with Jews.

You don't have to like them. You don't have to send money.

But it is wise to pray for the peace of Jerusalem.

Anonymous Orville August 03, 2014 10:08 AM  

Lost tribe of Kickapoo then?

I'm loathe to take the fundie approach that I used to have since I suspect that the anti-christ will be a half-jew whenever he eventually shows up. Plus, just as with ourselves, the Jews are historically their own worst enemy covenants and promises notwithstanding. They seem to be the Lord's whack-a-mole.

Blogger Shimshon August 03, 2014 10:11 AM  

Vox, being in Europe, how far do you think they'll go? What kind of time frame?

France, in particular, seems to be the most precarious to me. It has the 3rd largest Jewish community in the world, historical antipathy for the Jews, and a whole lotta Muslim Arabs.

How will this fit in with your promised post on how Israel could address the situation in Gaza from a 4GW perspective.

Anonymous Porky August 03, 2014 10:12 AM  

Yes, Jews have historically returned to their own sin again and again and again.

How many can say they haven't done so?

Anonymous VD August 03, 2014 10:12 AM  

There was no point at all to what they do were doing other than to sow seeds of animosity against the Jews.

The problem is that there is a certain power in victimhood. As a Native American, I can understand that. (Damn, I can't even type that with a straight face. Ahem.) I think the sense of persecution that has helped the Jews survive and stay together in environments of genuine persecution has been working to their long-term disadvantage in a relatively persecution-free environment.

It increases the chance of survival if it helps one correctly perceive enemies. But it is self-defeating if it causes one to unnecessarily generate new enemies, or even alienate potential friends, where none exist.

Anonymous Salt August 03, 2014 10:13 AM  

I see no reason for anyone to worry about Israel. It's either God's promise or it isn't.

Blogger Sherwood family August 03, 2014 10:16 AM  

A well worded explication of an issue that tends toward the hysterical from all parties involved.

I am interested, Vox, in what you believe a successful strategy would be for Jews in the U.S. going forward.

Having found their way into many influential positions in many powerful segments of the economy, how would the Jewish community act going forward so as to convince an increasingly dubious population that they are loyal citizens who just want to do well in the U.S. rather than to prosper at the expense of the Gentiles among whom they live?

The fact that Jews have accumulated the wealth, power, and cultural prestige that they have in the United States means that they would be natural targets of resentment anyway. But what concrete steps can Jews take to mitigate public perception that they have become an elite and powerful group unrepresentative of the population as a whole?

I am curious to hear possible suggestions.

Anonymous H August 03, 2014 10:17 AM  

How are Christians supposed to treat Jews and Zionism in general? Are they supposed to be regarded the same as everyone else who doesn't believe in Christ? Is there supposed to be some amount of reverence for the formerly chosen people? Does God's promise to destroy the people who destroy the Jews still hold strong?

Blogger Trust August 03, 2014 10:20 AM  

@ VD August 03, 2014 10:12 AM
The problem is that there is a certain power in victimhood.
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Yes. And paradoxically, the victimhood is only effective at manipulating when the alleged oppressors care about the alleged victims.

Anonymous EH August 03, 2014 10:26 AM  

That was a courageous, insightful, thorough and truthful essay. Unfortunately the Israeli line of propaganda depends on lies. Truth is very dangerous to them, and may invite attack more than the usual diplomatic criticisms of Israel's supporters that implicitly concede many of their false presuppositions.

I hope we truly have reached a watershed in recognition and rejection of the false narrative, but this is the most dangerous time - their power is intact, and while they always claim to feel threatened, now they are approaching a wounded and cornered state of mind that may lead them to take really drastic measures, even of the sort that could kill millions.

Anonymous Two Dogs F*cking August 03, 2014 10:27 AM  

No, not Cherokee, I'm afraid. And not Comanche either; I was kind of hoping for that.

I can't stop from thinking it's the White Earth Nation in Northwest Minnesota.

Anonymous Phil CA August 03, 2014 10:28 AM  

This guys name is Kraut Hammer.

Is that anti-Germanic? Anti-Germanism on the rise?

Anonymous Orville August 03, 2014 10:30 AM  

H - don't confuse the political entity with the person. There shouldn't be any confusion on how a Christian treats another individual. The government of Israel is no more representative of God's chosen people that the US is of Christians even during our best times.

Anonymous VD August 03, 2014 10:31 AM  

Vox, being in Europe, how far do you think they'll go? What kind of time frame?

Impossible to say, but I would expect the Eastern Europeans, the French, and the Germans to go the farthest, the Brits and the Italians less so. The real show is the natives vs the Muslims. My take is that the time frame is about 15 years before the serious problems kick off; I think it will all be dictated by the global economic situation.

Anonymous Axe Head August 03, 2014 10:43 AM  

And even then, one of them whines and plays the "censorship" card.

The Jew cries out in pain as he strikes you.

Blogger Jon Drake August 03, 2014 10:44 AM  

Yes, V D, the Holcaust is being dismissed as irrelevant.

Which will make the Second Holocaust easier to pull off.

But there will be a big difference.

This time the Jews will take a large part of the world with them. You know its true, and that makes you angry.

And scared.

Anonymous EH August 03, 2014 10:46 AM  

Breaking news: Israel intelligence-eavesdropped on phone calls by John Kerry (Spiegel)

Given Snowden's revelation that Israel gets the raw NSA data feed, any bets that they are blackmailing many members of Congress as well as most any other government officials that matter to them? The Kerry spying is only to be expected, but this could be the start of more mainstream attention to Israel's intelligence operations against its allies and how Israel abuses the information.

Anonymous Orville August 03, 2014 10:47 AM  

Bitch slap in 3,2,1

Anonymous Orville August 03, 2014 10:50 AM  

The anglo-american oligarchy certainly has a jewish component, and I've no doubt that the oligarchy is using the NSA as a lever for it's goals, but it is not solely a jewish conspiracy.

Blogger stats August 03, 2014 10:51 AM  

This time the Jews will take a large part of the world with them. You know its true, and that makes you angry.

You didn't take enough lives in Russia and Eastern Europe? You haven't taken enough lives in the Middle East (with the help of your proxy, the USA)?

Blogger stats August 03, 2014 10:51 AM  

but it is not solely a jewish conspiracy.

Says who?

Anonymous FaustsBargainSale August 03, 2014 10:56 AM  

John Drake-

That is the kind of idiot stuff that makes even people who are pro-Israeli turn against you. I'm not Jewish, nor am I Palestinian, so I don't really give a damn who wins your war. If anything, I favor Israel because they seem like the more civilized, sane place. But you're telling me that if you lose a war with some other dudes, you're going to launch nuclear strikes against my country? Seriously?

If I genuinely believed that this was true, as opposed to just some random idiot spouting nonsense on the web, I would say that the only reaction to this kind of provocation would be a preemptive saturation nuclear strike on Israel. I don't think it's true, and saying shit like that is so immensely counterproductive to the Israeli cause that I honestly suspect that you're a pro-Palestinian troll. If so, props to you! That's very clever. If not, then cut it the hell out. You're only hurting yourself.

Anonymous The other skeptic August 03, 2014 10:57 AM  

This time the Jews will take a large part of the world with them. You know its true, and that makes you angry.

When you say large, can you put a number to it? 1 billion?

Have you considered that there might be those who consider the price worth it? (Especially in and near the Middle East.)

Anonymous Frank Brady August 03, 2014 10:57 AM  

At last, a rational post on this topic. It's refreshing to see a post about "the Jews" that (1) isn't full of the standard Storm Front crap while (2) avoiding the putatively "Christian Right" stupidity posted by sincere folks with an apparently insatiable appetite for Israeli shoe leather.

Vox has nailed it. It is ironic and a bit sad that responsibility for much of what is happening (and what is going to happen) rests squarely with the Zionists who have managed to conflate Zionism and Judaism in the public mind.

Anonymous zen0 August 03, 2014 10:58 AM  

This time the Jews will take a large part of the world with them.

And how exactly HOW would this help the Jews remaining in the diaspora?

Anonymous YIH August 03, 2014 10:58 AM  

Another aspect is the cultural ''well poisoning'' that seems to have jews at the forefront or just behind the scenes cackling over the money they make off of it like Happy Merchant.
Vox mentioned Howard Stern the other day, anyone who has heard his radio show/TV shows/movie knows it's a ''toxic waste dump'' of *ahem* entertainment.
Even Stern himself acknowledged it saying in multiple interviews ''I don't let my kids listen to my show'' (back when it was all over FM I wonder how he managed to do that).
These days when I see a jewish name I associate it with the promotion of endless unwinnable wars for Israel's benefit or financial looting and pillaging or knowing that just offstage Happy Merchant is cackling over the cultural dioxin their companies spew I say many of those that have to leave Calipornia should be forced at gunpoint to make Aliyah and told ''don't come back... OR ELSE''.

Anonymous VD August 03, 2014 10:59 AM  

This time the Jews will take a large part of the world with them. You know its true, and that makes you angry.

It's often hard to tell the hard core anti-semite trying to make Jews look bad from Jews talking tough from the perceived safety of the USA.

If the Jews are genuinely threatening to destroy a large part of the world, then I would expect to see Israel nuked by the Chinese or the Russians. It would be an excellent way to overthrow American hegemony, as they will be in the best position to pick up the pieces after Israel nukes the European capitals and the major American cities.

Blogger TontoBubbaGoldstein August 03, 2014 11:01 AM  

This guys name is Kraut Hammer.

Is that anti-Germanic? Anti-Germanism on the rise?



In the names of Charles Martel, Ben Jealous, Gen. Westmoreland, and Cardinal Sin....just STOP!

Anonymous VD August 03, 2014 11:02 AM  

If you can't be civil to the other commenters, Jon Drake, you'll be spammed.

Anonymous Salt August 03, 2014 11:07 AM  

How many big Nukes does Israel have? Intercontinental delivery systems? I seriously doubt anyone has anything to worry about from Israel beyond bomber range.

Blogger Glen Filthie August 03, 2014 11:07 AM  

Why would I call you names, Vox? I am not offended in the least by wrongful or misinformed opinions. I am rather shocked to see a man of your obvious intellect gulled into the scapegoat mentality though.
The rise in anti-Semitism is no surprise given the decline in morality, ethics and intelligence. It coincides with other decadent and degenerate ideologies brought on by socialism - and just as socialist schools produce the bulk of young, 85 IQ students - it follows that they will produce the bulk of anti-Semites as well. As you note, the socialists killed more joos than the Nazis did. Fascism is almost illegal in the west - but our universities are pumping out morons and socialists as if they were made on an assembly line.
I stand with Israel - not because I am an evil joo or a Zionist or a fascist - but because the Palestinkians are picking this fight each and every time, because they refuse to act like civilized men and choose to fight like cowards and curs - and I know that the only real and lasting answer to the problem would require a Final Solution that involved making soap and lamp shades out of Palestinians. So there goes that idea the left also stubbornly clings to - the idea that peace at any cost is worth it.
The rags attack Israel, they come back with tanks, planes and missiles - the monkeys flood into the streets to ululate, celebrate their dead and pick up the pieces, rinse and repeat. Somebody wake me up when the current idiot is out of the Whitehouse, and we can start making some kind of sentient foreign policy.

Blogger Jon Drake August 03, 2014 11:12 AM  

Do any of you seriously think that if a Second Holocaust goes down, that the Jews will go down alone?

Don't you know that the Samson Option is real?

Jews fight back. It is not going to be like the last time.

Blogger Jon Drake August 03, 2014 11:12 AM  

Salt, unless the nukes are already in place.

Blogger Nate August 03, 2014 11:13 AM  

"The problem is that there is a certain power in victimhood. As a Native American, I can understand that. (Damn, I can't even type that with a straight face. Ahem.) "

Dude you are having way to much fun with this...

Blogger Nate August 03, 2014 11:14 AM  

"Do any of you seriously think that if a Second Holocaust goes down, that the Jews will go down alone?"

hrm.... honestly I haven't given the matter much thought. Upon considering it... I find that I really don't care.

If the Jews think setting off nukes all over the world is a good idea... then I'm going to have to reconsider my position on The Final Solution.

Blogger TontoBubbaGoldstein August 03, 2014 11:15 AM  

Two Dogs F*cking posted:
"I can't stop from thinking it's the White Earth Nation in Northwest Minnesota.

I think it's Lumbee, you know, like Heather Locklear.

Oy vey! Didn't know you posted here Uncle TDF. Please say "Hello" to Aunt Hadassah for me. Thanks.

Blogger Nate August 03, 2014 11:16 AM  

of course I also must consider that Jon Drake could just be a sockpuppet created by some jew hater out to make jews look bad.

Anonymous frenchy August 03, 2014 11:18 AM  

@ Vox,

Question. When you say that: "The world knows who has been flooding its nations with third-world barbarians who don't even understand the concept of indoor plumbing."...

Are you saying that Jews have risen to prominent positions in the govts of other nations and then changed their immigration policies to allow third-worlders in? For instance, like the positions Feinstein, and Schumer hold on immigration in our own country (ie: 1st or 2nd generation immigrants proposing that another country open its borders)?

I know that many will do this to garner votes, but how does this benefit Israel?

And OT: Have you thought about getting a second test to confirm the DNA results? I hear some are good and some aren't.

Thanks.

Anonymous Porky August 03, 2014 11:19 AM  

1 billion?

Dispensationally, I'd say more like 2 billion.

Blogger Matamoros August 03, 2014 11:21 AM  

Two interesting articles in this regard at Cheradenine Zakalwe's new site:

Jewish Taqiyya

"Thanks to the Counterjihad movement, people in the western world now know a lot more about Islamic ideology than we did before. We can readily perceive how the contempt for the kuffar that is enshrined in the core texts of Islam feeds the iniquitous Muslim behaviour that we see on our news bulletins every day. And we have learned to be wary of the systematic deceit Muslims employ to prevent us finding out about the true nature of their "religion". Much less well known, however, is how Jewish religious texts contain similarly contemptuous attitudes towards the goyim, and that generations of Jewish scholars have engaged in a systematic effort to conceal this fact from non-Jews. Since I don't think Pam, Vlad & co. will be enlightening us about this any time soon, I will do it here...."

The Jew as Ally of the Muslim

"I was reading a book [in Spanish so I won't post extracts] about the history of Jews in Spain, which essentially confirmed what I had already written about (here, here and here), namely Jewish collaboration with Muslim invaders in the post-Roman era. This fact is of central importance to the history of Europe's confrontation with Islam. Yet all of the supposed "Counterjihad" sites, although they regularly feature pieces about the Crusades, 1683, the Battle of Lepanto and so forth, resolutely refuse to mention it. This exposes the Counterjihad movement's essentially fraudulent nature. These people are not primarily interested in resisting Islam. Their goal is to promote the interests of Jewry. Resisting Islam is simply a means of doing that, as they perceive it, and, at best, a secondary objective...." - http://diversitymachtfrei.blogspot.com/2014/07/the-jew-as-ally-of-muslim.html

Anonymous Feelings, Nothing More Than Feellings August 03, 2014 11:21 AM  

Jon "Troll" Drake
Do any of you seriously think that if a Second Holocaust goes down, that the Jews will go down alone?

Troll, surely you should be aware that in addition to the estimated 6 million Jews who perished in various ways under the Nazi regime, there was also another 6 million or so victims who were not Jewish. The first ones to die were the retarded. Later it was Communists, Poles, Slavs, Senta, Romany, Catholics, Protestants, homosexuals (who weren't Party members), and so forth and so on.

So, dude, the last time around the Jewish people didn't die alone. Plenty of others went in the same boxcars. Next time you're in Israel, drop by Yad Veshim. Maybe you could learn something.

Anonymous VD August 03, 2014 11:21 AM  

I am rather shocked to see a man of your obvious intellect gulled into the scapegoat mentality though.

Scapegoat for what, Glen?

Don't you know that the Samson Option is real?

Do you even know what the Sampson Option is? Go ahead and blow up the Middle East.

"We are much more important than (Americans) think. We can take the Middle East with us whenever we go." - Ariel Sharon.

Notice that he isn't claiming "most of the world". If the Soviets, Chinese, and Americans were concerned about an Israeli threat, it wouldn't exist.

Jews fight back. It is not going to be like the last time.

Against Arabs. You lost six million against 60 million people fighting a major war on both fronts last time. And now you're going to take on 7 billion? I certainly hope you are an anti-semitic troll because the alternative is downright worrisome.

Anonymous Anonymous August 03, 2014 11:25 AM  

If he thinks like the Jewish commenter the other day who claimed that Jews are always in danger everywhere, I assume Krauthammer would claim that this antisemitism was always there under the surface, and is only emerging now because the haters see an opportunity.

Ask the average half-illiterate 80-IQ American public school student about the Holocaust and he's as likely to think it has something to do with slavery or Palestine as World War II.

I'm not so sure about that. I'd be shocked if the schoolbooks aren't still teaching the same party line. I've seen homeschool materials that do. Then there's popular entertainment -- even the freaking X-Men movie starts with it, and seems to assume the target demographic will know the reference. (Interestingly, as regards your topic here: that scene draws an obvious parallel between mutants being persecuted for being more talented than everyone else, and Jews being persecuted for....?)

Blogger Sherwood family August 03, 2014 11:26 AM  

John Drake,

Who do you expect the "Jews" to take out if there is a second holocaust? The perpetrators? That would seem obvious. But if the Jews could take them out then why would there be a second holocaust in the first place?

Genocides, like the holocaust, happen for two reasons: 1) because one side lacks the means to prevent it or 2) lacks the will to prevent it. The Holocaust (tm) occurred because of both reasons. Certainly European Jewry was not in a position to prevent it. However, most of them also did very little to try to prevent it, going quietly to the cattle cars and then into the ovens. Contrast that with what occurred in the Warsaw Ghetto when the Jews finally wised up to what was happening. They got a few firearms and made things hell for the Germans for a while. Obviously, they were over matched and eventually destroyed but they made things difficult rather than going to their deaths quietly.

So for any potential holocaust to occur the Jews of the world would have to lack either 1) the ability to resist or 2) the will to. There is certainly enough military capacity in Israel to resist and enough will to. Also, if Jews in Europe or North America were being subjected to holocaust-like conditions, why would they not simply flee to Israel? Makes sense, right? In other words, there is unlikely to be a second holocaust, though there may be expulsions, unless Israel itself is faced with a foe willing and able to exterminate it. That there are those willing is evident. Israel's neighbors have long been willing. Whether they are able is a different question.

But this gets back to the question of why the Jews would have to take a "large part of the world with them?" That does not follow from what we know about the situation of world Jewry.

I mean, if Iran got a nuclear weapon and was intent on annihilating Israel, what need would the Jews of the world have to take out China or India or Brazil or the United States, etc? There would be no strategic or tactical benefit from something like that. If you mean that the Israelis would wipe out the Iranians or even a larger swath in their neighborhood...well that makes more sense but then that does not address why you think Vox is or should be angry or scared about it.

In other words, you are the one that sounds angry and scared with talk of taking "much of the world with them."

Anonymous bw August 03, 2014 11:26 AM  

This time the Jews will take a large part of the world with them

While I do not disagree, and have long assumed the crazy Talmudic racists and Kabbalists have been holding this over the West, that's quite a glimpse into their Psyche if this is so - While it STILL FAILS to deal with exactly what it is that "the Jews" do/have done over the last 5 Centuries to be runoff from every country.
For those who are late to this party, let me give you a quick jumpstart: Banking/Finance, Law, Media, Entertainment, and Culture Wars (racism, gender, social justice).
The decision makers for the West circa WWII chose Jewish Bolshevik Communism over NS for Europe and the U.S., with obvious Fascist, Public/Private Corps, financing.
Because Victim.

but it is not solely a jewish conspiracy

I would have to agree with this (call it the "all Rothschild" theory), but someone has done quite the job at setting them up yet again (WASPS)...their insane pride and ego just can't refuse the temptation, can it?! As if people aren't going to notice once again how heavily involved they are?
Of course it's really gonna be fun if it really is the Jesuits...

Anonymous Feelings, Nothing More Than Feelings August 03, 2014 11:31 AM  

John "Troll" Drake

Don't you know that the Samson Option is real?


As Vox observed, destroying the Middle East is not the same as taking out the world. Even though there would be years without a summer as a result of the Samson option, it still would not end the world as we know it.

The real threat of the Samson option for decades has been the implied loss of Persian Gulf oil - a firestorm across the Saudi and Iraqi oilfields, destruction of the tanker loading facilities at Bharain, etc. But with improved drilling techniques, previously unreachable oil in the Americas, Southeast Asia and even off the coast of New Zealand is now attainable. The Arab oilfields are not the energy bottleneck they were in 1974.

The world can get along without Middle Eastern oil. It doesn't really need the Red Sea canal. So the Samson option, while still a major threatpoint for other Middle Eastern countries, is not a threat to the rest of the world.

And increasingly the rest of the world is surely aware of that fact.

Blogger Markku August 03, 2014 11:31 AM  

I would think that if the Jews are not satisfied with the number of sons the goyim send to die for Israel in the Big War, they'll nuke at least the European capitals.

Blogger W.LindsayWheeler August 03, 2014 11:33 AM  

Vox says if the Jews correct their ways, they can lessen anti-semitism.

NO they can't.

The only thing they can do is accept Jesus Christ. God said to them in Chapter 28 of Deuteronomy that He will hound them forever. They will NEVER know Peace. They rejected the Word of God Incarnate---they will have NO peace.

Simple as that.

Anonymous paradox August 03, 2014 11:33 AM  

stats is correct. As a Southerner I can tell you, there is no way the chrizos will ever stop worshiping Israel. The local Christian book stores are chocked full of Israel teddy bears and Israeli flags. You would think it's a gift shop at an Israeli embassy.

During the War of Northern Aggression, the Confederate flag couldn't have a normal cross in its design. It had to be a St. Andrews Cross, the yahoodies in Charleston didn't find it overtly Christian.

The only thing that might possibly change Southern chrizos' opinion is if the yahoodies push to confiscate firearms. Although, I'm sure the chrizos would give up their firearms if Bibi and Israel told them to.

Anonymous LES August 03, 2014 11:35 AM  

We have been conditioned to hate Islam and especially Arab Muslims.
Would Christian Zionists still favor Israel if the Palestinians were Greek Orthodox or Lutheran?

Anybody who knows the history of the conflict knows that the Jews intended to take the land of Palestine from the indigenous inhabitants regardless of their religion.

Blogger Sherwood family August 03, 2014 11:38 AM  

LES,

Many of the Palestinians ARE and WERE Greek Orthodox. There has always been a solid Christian Arab minority in Palestine.

Blogger JACIII August 03, 2014 11:40 AM  

"Although, I'm sure the chrizos would give up their firearms if Bibi and Israel told them to."

Wishful thinking.

Anonymous Grinder August 03, 2014 11:42 AM  

Jon Drake August 03, 2014 10:44 AM

Yes, V D, the Holcaust is being dismissed as irrelevant.

Which will make the Second Holocaust easier to pull off.

But there will be a big difference.

This time the Jews will take a large part of the world with them. You know its true, and that makes you angry.

And scared.

If flesheating bacteria was eating away at your arm or leg the best play is to saw off the infected limb. I'd say that losing some or most of our cities is a worthwhile trade-off to burn the scum off of the planet. Hopefully, the jews take out Toronto during 'Pride Week' when and if they can do it. For the survivors, the world will be a less hospitable place for those who draw their living off the backs of others without contributing their own labour. No more Wall Street, Federal Reserve, Hollywood, Supreme Court or lickspittle jew quisling politicians.

Anonymous paradox August 03, 2014 11:43 AM  

LES,

The answer is... yes. Chrizos would still favor Israel over their Christian brothers and sisters.

Anonymous bw August 03, 2014 11:44 AM  

had to be a St. Andrews Cross, the yahoodies in Charleston didn't find it overtly Christian

What they found it to be was Scottish Rite. I'm sure Judah P Benjamin approved.

Anonymous Ritual Abaser August 03, 2014 11:44 AM  

Vox's post reads like a love letter sent to a serial killer warning him that his behaviour is endangering his long term prospects.

Anonymous Maximo Macaroni August 03, 2014 11:45 AM  

It's too bad on a personal level. I have always liked Jews as friends better even than my own ethnic Scots. They are intelligent, humorous and energetic. Now that doesn't mean I agree with Zionism. That's a puzzle. Wasn't Zion supposed to be a place of refuge for Jews who were maltreated throughout the world? Yet it has become one of the most dangerous places. And its government won't even eradicate the most venomous local enemies, but lets them vote in Israeli elections!

Compared to average Africans, however, I would far rather have a conversation with the average Jew.

Anonymous paradox August 03, 2014 11:48 AM  

JACIII,

I view it as unlikely. However, Israel has a strong influence over the weak minded.

Anonymous make it London Please August 03, 2014 11:50 AM  

they'll nuke at least the European capitals

Too perfect. The Bolshevik Communists nuking the Euros (feminine) that they convinced to become Bolshevik Communists.

Anonymous paradox August 03, 2014 11:52 AM  

bw,

I'm sure Judah P Benjamin was preoccupied with Confederate gold to even care.

Anonymous The other skeptic August 03, 2014 11:52 AM  

Don't you know that the Samson Option is real?

Perhaps he is claiming that they already control the US nukes or that many of those missing South African and Russian nukes are in place.

Blogger Sherwood family August 03, 2014 11:56 AM  

As to Christians in the U.S. prefering Jews in Israel to other Christians in Palestine: one does not have to look far to see that the largely Protestant U.S. population is more or less indifferent to the plight of Christians elsewhere if they are not Protestant Christians. I have seen a little sympathy now and again for the Copts in Egypt but overall very little outrage is reserved for atrocities aimed against Christians from other branches of Christianity.

Anonymous Anonymous August 03, 2014 11:57 AM  

So, do we ignore the prophets now? I respect the biblical concept of Isreal, but am not a Christian Zionist. A very large Army is going to attack the place, the Jews are going to nearly be exterminated, and a very small percentage are going to be saved by the returning Messiah. In return, that very large army IS going to be utterly destroyed along with the calamities of Revelations for the rest of the world. Care to estimate the numbers? How about most of the world. Hate them, support them, it won't change things in the end. The end is already written. The land and the people belong to God forever and he does not change. If he did, then our secure promises in Christ could be altered at a moments notice as well.

They were supposed to be a light unto the nations, a kingdom of priests. I get it, they really suck at it. In fact, everything Vox has stated is perfectly true but it won't change the outcome. Messiah is returning to ISRAEL at the Mount of Olives to save his people. He is not returning to DC, Berlin, or Moscow. The persecution is real and is going to intensify. That nation is ultimate defiance of the adversary. It will be horribly disciplined for everything stated in the post, but never abandoned. Pray for the peace of Jerusalem indeed. Because the peace of the rest of the world depends on that one issue.

Anonymous Make Aliyah today August 03, 2014 11:59 AM  

The problem isn't the Jews so much as it is American worship of all that is Talmudic.

The vulgar displays of American pridefulness are rooted in their Jew love.

Anonymous fnn August 03, 2014 12:00 PM  

How many big Nukes does Israel have? Intercontinental delivery systems? I seriously doubt anyone has anything to worry about from Israel beyond bomber range.

They have nuclear-armed German submarines.

Anonymous redsash August 03, 2014 12:00 PM  

A 100 megaton H-bomb encased in cobalt detonated anywhere would pretty much take care of most of mankind.

Blogger Jon Drake August 03, 2014 12:01 PM  

You are forgetting, Grinder

If the Samson Option set off nuclear winter, which is the idea, the everybody will pay.

Including you...yeah, maybe it is worth it.

Blogger Jon Drake August 03, 2014 12:02 PM  

redsash, you are close, but it would probably take three or four of them, properly placed.

But I give you an A- for that one.

Good point.

Anonymous Who funded Scofield? August 03, 2014 12:03 PM  

The funny thing about "the Samson Option" and all of these OT themes that the State of Israel uses is that Samson would have recognized the Savior, being a favored Hebrew, and bowed on his face to the Son of Man, rejecting a Kingdom of this World.
I guess not really being Hebrews after all, they have to keep up the psy-op pretense for the evangelicals' false prophesy.

Blogger Jon Drake August 03, 2014 12:03 PM  

fun, and the Germans make some damn fine submarines!

Anonymous Matt Flannagan August 03, 2014 12:03 PM  

This is possibly the most illogical thing I have ever read, unless the author is a sadomasochistic of the most vile kind.

It reads like:

"Dear Jew,

I know you have raped, murdered and embezzled many if not most of my extended family. However I must warn you that some of the remaining members of my kin are after you! Please detest from your behavior or you will be caught.

Yours truly,

Your loving goyim victim.

PS Mind the Arabs in the rear-view too ;)"

Just fucking pathetic!

Anonymous Sir Francis Drake August 03, 2014 12:11 PM  

If the Samson Option set off nuclear winter, which is the idea, the everybody will pay.

Again, the Psychopathy of the "jew". We are indeed guilty, BUT EVERYONE'S GONNA PAY!!

Keep running your suck, Jon Drake. Your ego-pride will enlighten more and more with every word you speak.

Blogger Jon Drake August 03, 2014 12:13 PM  

Cry and stamp your feet, Sir Francis.

If the world tries to wipe out the Jews again, the world will find that its not going to be like the last time.

You can't stop it, and that makes you mad as hell!

Blogger kurt9 August 03, 2014 12:14 PM  

But with improved drilling techniques, previously unreachable oil in the Americas, Southeast Asia and even off the coast of New Zealand is now attainable. The Arab oilfields are not the energy bottleneck they were in 1974.

Not to mention the fracking revolution in North America, China, Australia, and Brazil as well as the gas hydrate technology being developed by the Japanese.

Blogger Jon Drake August 03, 2014 12:15 PM  

Matt, the louder you squeal, the more I know I have touched the nerve.

Blogger kurt9 August 03, 2014 12:18 PM  

The Samson Option is real, but would be limited to the Middle-east and probably some of the European capitals. The Israelis do not have an ICBM delivery capability to hit places like the U.S. or China.

During the Cold War, the Israelis actually did target Soviet cities with their nukes. Their reasoning was that the Soviet Union was the primary backer of the radical Arab states that they were at war with.

Anonymous VD August 03, 2014 12:19 PM  

That's enough, Jon Drake. You've made your point. Repeatedly. If you don't have anything new to add, but keep repeating yourself, your comments will be deleted.

Anonymous Grinder August 03, 2014 12:19 PM  

@Jon Drake

I already work long hours for my living and get far less than my fair share of the wealth. My labour helps support your fellow jews, Jonathan, along with some of Vox's red nigger brethren up here and ever increasing hordes of third world scum arriving monthly despite Canada losing jobs. My death is merely the loss of a mealticket for some hook nosed parasites. I'd launch all the missiles today!

Anonymous The Book Dame August 03, 2014 12:22 PM  

I have zero sympathy for Hamas. I do have some for Israel, but I really have no dog in this fight. I do believe the anti-semitism is always there and has always been there and there is a definite spiritual component to it.

A lot of Jews will probably end up getting murdered. A lot of Christians are getting murdered now and even more will get murdered in the future. Maybe you. Maybe me. Anti-semitism is on the march and so is christian martyrdom. Just another epoch in a fallen world, one most likely much closer to its end than its beginning.

I agree with Salt on this one. Either God's promise is true or not.

Although, when it does all eventually end, Israel does get the last "laugh."

Anonymous Grinder August 03, 2014 12:28 PM  

Kurt9, it makes little difference if Israel possesses submarines capable of launching missiles. Are you kept in fear of a potential retaliatory strike? I guess MAD really did work. Maybe I am different in that I see our race being destroyed as utterly as if struck by atomic bombs only far more slowly and gradually and subtly that most are unable to perceive it. The white race should have a Samson option to prevent their nations from falling to the barbarians only I believe that the cause can be targetted surgically without needless death of innocents.

Anonymous Anonymous August 03, 2014 12:36 PM  

How are Christians supposed to treat Jews and Zionism in general?

The Catholic position has always been (though it's been ignored and obfuscated since Vatican II, like everything else):

- the Jews should not be persecuted, out of respect for their heritage as God's chosen people
- but Christians also should not mingle with them any more than necessary
- except to convert them when there's an opportunity

Read A Quo Primum by Pope Benedict XIV for more. He talks there about how Christians are not to work for Jews or hire them in positions of authority. But he also says they are not to be persecuted. He quotes St. Bernard and Abbot Peter of Cluny, who among others had to talk down leaders and laity who wanted to wipe out the Jews at various times when they had gained control of the land or government and began to squeeze the commoners. He quotes many previous popes on the matter of restricting Jews who wished to live in Christian nations -- they weren't to be allowed to hold public office, for instance.

This isn't something new, or something that started in Germany last century. It's a cycle that's been going on as long as we have recorded history of Jews living in proximity to Gentiles. Blame it on the Gentiles if you want, for being envious of the superiority of the Jews. That doesn't matter. Regardless of whose fault it is, it's a cycle that's repeated often enough to be predictable, and it's pretty obvious what part of the cycle we're at and what usually comes next.

Anonymous LES August 03, 2014 12:36 PM  

Book Dame, please define Israel.

American Christian Zionist's eschatology demands that a Third Temple be built in Jerusalem where the Dome of Rock sits on the Temple Mount in order for...
get this... the anti-Christ to have a Temple to desecrate.

Anonymous Noah B. August 03, 2014 12:40 PM  

"Repeatedly. If you don't have anything new to add, but keep repeating yourself, your comments will be deleted."

Ruthless. Almost... savage.

Blogger Serge_Tomiko August 03, 2014 12:42 PM  

The Carthaginians were also Semites, although of course not Jewish.

Anonymous Frank Brady August 03, 2014 12:46 PM  

Judaism is one of the world's great monotheistic religions. Zionism is an aggressive political movement. They are not the same thing, despite Zionism's incredible success (aided and abetted by its neo-conservative domestic US allies) in conflating the two.

The Zionists' decision to appropriate the name "Israel" for the Palestinian territory ceded to them after World War II was politically brilliant. It assured them that the Christian Fundamentalists would immediately shut off their brains after seeing the word "Israel" Honest Christian Zionists should perhaps consider the potential meaning of these two Biblical citations:

Revelation 3:9 (King James Bible): "King James Bible "Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie..."

Hosea 4:6: "My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children.

Anonymous zen0 August 03, 2014 12:52 PM  

This whole Samson thing reminds me of fear aggression in dogs.

For instance:

A well socialized, well trained, well bred dog that is confident does not feel the need to make inappropriate (aggressive) displays toward non-threatening strangers/persons.

Somewhat like the threatening behavior of the Cowardly Lion in Wizard of Oz.

Anonymous Porky August 03, 2014 1:01 PM  

The Carthaginians were also Semites

Linguistically and culturally, but not by descent.

Blogger Rabbi B August 03, 2014 1:03 PM  

I can't help offering a Biblical perspective ...

There are three paradigms recorded in the Bible that may be worth considering: Joseph in Egypt, Daniel in Babylon, and Mordechai in Persia.

Joseph, betrayed and sold as a slave by his own family into Egypt, yet all the while faithful and seeking the welfare of those he served - whether in the house of Potiphar, or falsely accused and sitting in the the king's prison or as the second most powerful man in Egypt - never complaining, just simply serving faithfully in someone else's country seeking the welfare of those around him. A few generations later Egypt would remind our people that we were unwelcome guests and Hashem would use this as a catalyst for our deliverance. Not only would the nation of Egypt (and her gods) be judged, but a number of Egyptians would recognize the one true God, and be delivered as well. It is noteworthy, that later in the Torah, we are commanded to be careful never to mistreat the Egyptian, simply for the fact that we were given refuge in his land (cf. Deut. 23:7).

Several centuries later, a young man named Daniel would be carried into exile, residing as a guest for a predetermined period of time. Though Daniel rose to prominence in the government and remained influential throughout his lifetime, he did not cry anti-Semitism when other government officials conspired against him. He had served Babylon faithfully, and did not rail against Babylon when he was treated unjustly - he trusted his future to Hashem who had been faithful to him. The same is true of his friends who submitted themselves to the king's punishment in the furnace, assured that their God could deliver them if He wished and yet were determined to remain faithful to Him even if they perished in the flames. Again, no cries of antisemitism, anti-Zionism, Jew hatred or the like.

Finally, the example of Mordechai, a guest in the country of Persia. Rather than remain silent when learning of a plot to assassinate the King of Persia, Mordechai quietly exposes the plot, saving the king's life. This particular King of Persia was anything but saintly. The rest of the story is also very instructive and further augments my position (ie. Esther's approach to the king, the king's decree that the Jews can take up arms and defend themselves, etc.)

The point of this little 'sermon'? Our people are not in the habit of trusting in Hashem and Hashem alone for their deliverance whether in the galut (exile) or in our own land. We are afraid to go up and face our enemies when God is with us, and then we think we can strap on our swords and defeat our enemies when God is not with us (cf. Numbers 13:30-33; 14:39-45).

I think Joseph, Daniel and Mordechai provide a great model for our people today ... after all, were not these things recorded in the Scriptures for our learning? (cf. I Corinth. 10:11).

Anonymous Jack Amok August 03, 2014 1:03 PM  

...advanced in tribal fashion...

That's the real problem right there. Tribalism. It's fine within your own borders, but obnoxious among migrants. If it weren't for the Bernake's and Goldman's and even Krauthammers (who I occasionally really like), I suspect there would be a larger degree of sympathy for Israel. As a nation dealing with hostile neighbors, an "us against them" attitude is admirable.

As a bunch of foreigners living in your own country, it's not.

Sherwood family asked:

Having found their way into many influential positions in many powerful segments of the economy, how would the Jewish community act going forward so as to convince an increasingly dubious population that they are loyal citizens who just want to do well in the U.S. rather than to prosper at the expense of the Gentiles among whom they live?

I would say the answer is to stop being a part of any "Jewish community" in America and just become a member of an American community (or Texan, Dakotan, whatever). Don't try to be a "Jewish American", just be an "American." Drop the tribal affiliation all together. Change your name to Jones or Jackson or Phillips. Tell your kids you'll disown them if they go into banking or politics or any other stereotypical profession.

Anonymous Son of (Uncle) Sam August 03, 2014 1:23 PM  

the world will find that its not going to be like the last time.

But it will all be for the same reasons.

Anonymous 11B August 03, 2014 1:54 PM  

Krauthammer said. “It is shocking, especially in Europe. It is a resurgence of anti-Semitism not seen since the `30s, this is a recurrence, it's all over the world, and don't tell me its anti-Zionism. You listen to the slogan, you see the sign, Hitler was right in Germany, a sign in Germany saying that this is a veneer that is a front for anti-Semitism and it is back. It's all over the world. And that's what we're now beginning to face.

For anyone who is in Europe can you confirm this attitude. Also, if this attitude exists does it exist among real Europeans or amongst the newly imported diversity types. I suspect the resurgent anti-semitism in Europe is directly proportional to the increasing non-European population. But I don't live there, so I might be wrong.

PS. If it is mainly the result of non-Europeans, then it is pretty disingenuous for an open border, propositional-nation guy like Krauthammer to not clarify this point.

Blogger veinarmor August 03, 2014 2:05 PM  

Excellent article. No slobbering hatred, simply undeniable facts. Didn't even mention that 90% of all the porn produced comes from that wonderful tribe. Or the tendency to make money off of anything, no matter how vile and depraved.

This wealthy group tells you on the radio that you must bring in a bazillion immigrants while you are sitting in a traffic jam. They spend billions ensuring all political positions at every level, city, county, state, and federal are held by lawyers and somehow convince you that having lawyers making legislation is not the most blatantly stupid example of 'conflict of interest' one can conceive.

That a tiny group so far removed from understanding what 99.9% of humanity must do every day just to survive, thinks they know better what you need and will dictate who you have to interact with, who you must make allowances for, and who you must bow to is a serious miscalculation their part.

Honestly, I see things getting increasingly ugly unless they exercise their dual citizenship and leave for Israel.

Blogger Glen Filthie August 03, 2014 2:29 PM  

"Scapegoat for what, Glen? "
--------------------------------------

Forgive me, a poor choice of words - I am not as gifted at speaking my thoughts as guys like you or Moldbug and other intellectuals.

Perhaps it is more a 'rationalizing process' than a scapegoating one. Either way I am not comfortable with your position and have to take exception to it. The details of the Israel/Palestine conflict are a matter of public record. The internet trumps propaganda and censorship as easily as political correctness. In today's day and age there is no excuse for anti-Semitism. Nor for 95% of the reasons for opposing Israel's policies on the conflict. Common sense alone should be all it takes to do away with any reservations about who the good guys and bad guys are in this.
For one reason or another I don't think you are as impartial as you claim to be.

Blogger Rabbi B August 03, 2014 2:40 PM  

Glen Filthie

In today's day and age there is no excuse for anti-Semitism.

Do you detect anything anti-Semitic in the post? Please indentify and clarify. Is offering criticism and advice and recognizing the 'writing on the wall' simply because it happens to be directed to Jews, de facto anti-Semitic?

Anonymous VD August 03, 2014 2:44 PM  

In today's day and age there is no excuse for anti-Semitism

And yet it is growing rapidly. Must be something in the water. Strange, how it just magically appears out of nowhere, for no reason.

Anonymous shepster August 03, 2014 2:54 PM  

"The world knows what Ben Bernanke did last summer, so to speak."

Bernanke was born in Georgia and raided in South Carolina. Once again we see it is southerners who fuck things up economically and go about screwing others. There's a reason people's dislike for southerners is keen.

Blogger JACIII August 03, 2014 2:56 PM  

Saw excerpts from an interview with Bloomberg today on the Gaza dustup. Interestingly when asked about Isreali actions/ policy Bloomberg used "We" when referring to the Israelis.
Do they think no one notices?

Anonymous Anonymous August 03, 2014 3:02 PM  

The definition of anti-semitism is that it is an unreasoning hatred.

It can be identified as anti-semitism when the reasons change but the hatred remains the same.

It can be identified as anti-semitism when another group performs the same actions but is not hated for them.

Throughout these posts are perfectly valid reasons to hate someone. The question then becomes, "Would you hate someone else the same way for doing the same things?" And then look at evidence of the past.

I personally look at all of this and ask, "How?" One, how are the jews so dumb to be suckered in by communism and socialism and all of this tricky bullshit? And two, jestingly, where is the connection? Where are the notes on the secret jewish conspiracy? Where are the emails from the secret Jew-o-list email chain? Why hasn't Snowden put those out, because the NSA is sure to have them, right?

How can you claim it's some sort of jewish conspiracy without evidence that jews did it as jews rather than just as bright midwits who thought they were too clever for their own good?

(I have the answer to number one. It's that they aren't jews anymore. They turned away from the law and examples that they were given, whose rules would protect them from using their midwits to take such action. And the bible tells the story of exactly that over and over again.)

Anonymous shepster August 03, 2014 3:02 PM  

"And yet it is growing rapidly. Must be something in the water. Strange, how it just magically appears out of nowhere, for no reason."

There is a long multi-century tradition of Jews being the scapegoats. Most folks don't even know why they blame jews for stuff other than its easy to day. That's stupidity for you.

As for Israel's response to the Hamas aggression and terrorism, I rather doubt Israel will stop until they are good and ready and satisfied that the organization and people who want all jews dead and Israel wiped out are effectively disarmed or severely damaged.

Jews have lived with anti-semitism for centuries. If there is a rise in it now, they'll deal with it. However, unlike in past centuries, there really is no possibilities of pogroms or deportations...at least not without the perpetrators paying for their actions with their lives.

Anonymous VD August 03, 2014 3:09 PM  

Do they think no one notices?

Apparently.

I rather doubt Israel will stop until they are good and ready and satisfied that the organization and people who want all jews dead and Israel wiped out are effectively disarmed or severely damaged.

Someone isn't paying attention.

However, unlike in past centuries, there really is no possibilities of pogroms or deportations.

Tell that to the Jews of France and Germany. I'm sure they'll feel much better after being reassured by you.

Anonymous Too-Soon-ami August 03, 2014 3:26 PM  

There won't be any pogroms or deportations, because Samson Option! You hate it because it's true and you are powerless to do anything about it!! And they're starting to breed more too!!!

Anonymous The other skeptic August 03, 2014 3:38 PM  

It can be identified as anti-semitism when another group performs the same actions but is not hated for them.

I'm willing to explore these ideas.

Please tell me what actions you are referring to and which other group you are referring to.

The Chinese perhaps? Are you from SE Asia?

Anonymous Anonymous August 03, 2014 3:47 PM  

Okay, take the U.S.S. Liberty attack, then pick another friendly fire incident with another nation with similar damage/casualties. Is the fallout treated differently or the same?

Anonymous Anonymous August 03, 2014 3:49 PM  

(I'm not from SE Asia.)

Blogger Matt August 03, 2014 3:52 PM  

This doesn't finish anytime soon. Too many Christian Zionist in the South. Mostly clueless and have no real experience with Jews. It's all very distant and abstract

I grew up one of those southern conservative Christians for whom support of Israel was basically mandatory despite the fact that basically no one in the church had actually ever met a Jewish person. I have now met lots of them, and the great majority of them (though not all) are of course doctrinaire leftists who just loathe southern conservative Christians and fight as hard as they can against everything we stand for.

But the fact that that's true doesn't change the other fact that Israel is a basically civilized country surrounded by primitive maniacs whose primary pastime is to slaughter each other, or Europeans and Americans when they get the chance. So I find myself on the opposite end of "you can oppose Israel without being anti-Semitic". I hope Israel prospers and thrives (without my tax help, of course), and I hope some of those more irritating leftists decide to go live there away from the levers of power here. Maybe seeing some reality would give them a clue.

Anonymous Van Phauc August 03, 2014 3:52 PM  

Anti-Semite here. Just want to report in and say that I was a raised philo-Semitic, had a Jewish childhood best friend and was philo-Semitic up until the Iraq war happened. That event forced me to take a hard look at some assumptions I had been encouraged to make.

Since the Iraq war it almost seems like powerful Jewish people are TRYING to provoke a nasty reaction from the world.

Anonymous The other skeptic August 03, 2014 3:53 PM  

OK, now I understand.

Anonymous Anonymous August 03, 2014 3:55 PM  

(Just for further discussion, the USS Harwood, sunk by Turkish forces in a friendly fire incident. A good example to have around. I haven't been able to find the casualty counts though.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Harwood_%28DD-861%29
)

Anonymous The other skeptic August 03, 2014 4:01 PM  

Just for further discussion, the USS Harwood, sunk by Turkish forces in a friendly fire incident. A good example to have around. I haven't been able to find the casualty counts though.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Harwood_%28DD-861%29


I think you misunderstood the article, because that ship was a Turkish ship called TCG Kocatepe when sunk by Turkish planes.

So, it would seem not to be the same as USS Liberty.

Anonymous Anonymous August 03, 2014 4:03 PM  

I am definitely in error. Let me look for a better example.

Anonymous Titus Didius Tacitus August 03, 2014 4:03 PM  

luagha: "Okay, take the U.S.S. Liberty attack, then pick another friendly fire incident with another nation with similar damage/casualties. Is the fallout treated differently or the same?"

I'll let you pick any incident when Australia launched an equally deadly, cold-blooded, persistent, murderous attack on our American allies.

Then when you have picked the Aussie incident that suits you best, we can discuss:

1. How Australia covered the whole thing up through control of the American government and through ethnic domination of the American mass media and political class.

2. How the relevant Australian commander continued to get glamour treatment like Moshe Dayan did.

If you have trouble finding a matching incident, it might be because real allies don't act like that, ever!

Anonymous Hunsdon August 03, 2014 4:04 PM  

The other skeptic August 03, 2014 4:01

What that guy said.

Anonymous Mr. Stubby August 03, 2014 4:11 PM  

Did Jesus really say, If anyone will not welcome you or listen to your words, leave that home or town and shake the dust off your feet... unless they are Jews?

Anonymous Anonymous August 03, 2014 4:12 PM  

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/190th_Fighter_Squadron,_Blues_and_Royals_friendly_fire_incident
US on British. Less death and property damage than the Liberty. A similarly detailed inquest. Now, a footnote.

Anonymous The Truth is Libelous August 03, 2014 4:15 PM  

Anti-Semitism arises when goyim discover what kind of teachings are found in the Talmud.

Anti-Semitism arises when goyim discover the historical truth of the Jews throughout history, especially the "blood libel" that is founded on centuries of actual documented cases of the Blood Ritual Murder of Christians for celebrations of Purim and Passover. (Google "Simon of Trent").

Anti-Semitism arises when goyim figure out that the International Banksters have used fractional-reserve and fiat currency banking to enslave the nations of the world in perpetual usury by control of the central banking systems throughout the world.

Anti-Semitism arises when goyim figure out that just who is really behind the moral depravity and anti-Christian filth that spews out of Hollywood, the porn industry, Satanic Rock music and Gangster Rap.

Anti-Semitism arises when goyim figure out just who it is that ceasessly promotes open borders, untrammeled immigration of third worlders, and multi-cultural dogma to undermine what was once a Christian Civilization.

I was never an Anti-Semite. But once I researched these topics I cannot deny the veracity of what I have discovered.

Talmudic Zionists are the Synagogue of Satan, the false Jews foretold of in Revelations.

Anonymous The Ghost of Willis Carto August 03, 2014 4:19 PM  

Maybe serving hammentaschen to the kids for Purim is something they might want to reconsider. Kinda creepy in a grown man wearing women's clothes and standing in your bedroom late at night kind of way, if you catch my drift.

That and the constant "We run Hollywood/Finance/Civil Rights/Academia because we're smarter and what of it/ There is no such thing as organized Jews and if you say so you're an anti-semite who wants to gas 6 million Jews" dichotomy is a little hard for the average gentile to grok.

But whatever floats yer boat.

Blogger Markku August 03, 2014 4:25 PM  

Talmudic Zionists are the Synagogue of Satan, the false Jews foretold of in Revelations.

It would seem clear to me, that THAT part was about the present, at the time it was to be written. About an existing Christian congregation of the time.

Future events only start when John is taken up to heaven.

I get the impression that the "false Jews" mean just plain Jews. Those who are Jew by lineage and circumcision, but not by the only thing that matters: Serving Christ as their Lord.

Blogger Whiskey August 03, 2014 4:30 PM  

Vox you took your stupid pills today. Anti semitism is a Black andMuslim thing. Whites are not interested. Dog not barking? Egypt, Saudi, Jordan, etc don't care about Gaza. As ad kills more in a day and so does isis than Israel in a year.

Blacksand Muslims in Europe have nothing but mutual hatred of smarter Whites to bind them. They are failures at everything so hate the higher iq Jews. When Jews are dead they'll start on the rest and you are too White. You'll go too. Blacks and Muslims also hate Asians.

Anti Semitism is anti White. Period. By NAMs. Chinese don't care. Neither does Putin, ir Japan or Korea. Lw uq masses of Muslims and Bkacks hate Jews and all other Whites.

Jews got less than Carthage but more than Brutain bc they were closer. Britain was always thinly garrisoned and the Germans had that huge forest. Numidians got worse than the Jews as did Mithradates.

Blogger Whiskey August 03, 2014 4:36 PM  

No one cares about financial crisis being 'caused by Jews' We had a bigger nastuer one in 1873 that lasted 20 yrs, another in 1879, panics throughout the 17, 18, 19, 20th Centuries.

Part of the system. Not part of the system? Immavasion from third world. Reason no recovery. Nit Jews. Afrucans, Latin Amerucans, Muslims in the West in mass quantities.

That is Christian universalist utopianism. You don't see Israel opening up utsdoors. But Christian West does bc its our nature.

Anonymous The Truth is Libelous August 03, 2014 4:38 PM  

I get the impression that the "false Jews" mean just plain Jews. Those who are Jew by lineage and circumcision, but not by the only thing that matters: Serving Christ as their Lord..

Or it references the Khazar Jews who are not the descendants of Abraham and Isaac, and did not come from Judea, but converted en masse to Talmudic Judaism by decree of the Khazar King.

Blogger Markku August 03, 2014 4:46 PM  

Would the Khazars have been active in the city of Philadelphia, Constantinople at the time of writing, enough to cause a persecution worth a mention from Jesus? I mean, I don't know. But perhaps someone does.

Blogger Markku August 03, 2014 4:56 PM  

If the timing and geography checks out, then it kind of makes sense; they would have wanted to impress Jerusalem with the persecution, and perhaps curry favor.

Anonymous The other skeptic August 03, 2014 4:58 PM  

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/190th_Fighter_Squadron,_Blues_and_Royals_friendly_fire_incident
US on British. Less death and property damage than the Liberty. A similarly detailed inquest. Now, a footnote.


So, what point are you making? I am not sure I see your point here with respect to the USS Liberty.

Anonymous Too-Soon-ami August 03, 2014 5:01 PM  

"Anti Semitism is anti White. Period."

LOL. Exclamation Point.

Anonymous Feelings, Nothing More Than Feelings August 03, 2014 5:12 PM  

Whisky, you must be pretty busy at multiple sites today. Want to try using complete sentences instead of random fragments?

Let me help you out. Three generatons back, 75 or so years ago, you find Jewish comic artists such as George Burns, Jack Benny. Self deprecating, subtle, never dirty. Two generations back, 50 years ago, you find Jewish comics such as Mort Sahl, Mel Brooks - still self deprecating but more earthy, and sometimes dirty but not obnoxiously so. TV shows like Sanford & Son.

Now we get what? Every comedy has to be pro-homosexual. Naked contempt for Christianity is the norm. I try watching any prime time comedy, what do I get? Well, I don't get Moe Howard and his Jewish brothers lampooning stuffed shirts with pies in the face. Nah. I get Larry David. I get Modern Family - the pie in the face is dog feces.

Don't give me the "that's what people want" routine, it was obvious back in the 90's when "Will & Grace" got shoved down our throats that low information viewers will watch anything on TV. So the Hollywood entertainment industry can show anything it wants and get viewers.

Whisky, would it hurt Larry David that much to quit pissing on Christ? I mean, if he had to be a little respectful of the majority of Americans it's not like he'd wind up liviing under some freeway in a cardboard box, right? He's not going to go broke by trying to lift up popular culture instead of further degrade it, right?

So how come any attempt to convince the entertainment industry to cut back on the filth is always met with such fierce resistance, and always by Jews?

Can you take some time out of your day to explain that?

Anonymous paradox August 03, 2014 5:15 PM  

shepster
Bernanke was born in Georgia and raided in South Carolina. Once again we see it is southerners who fuck things up economically and go about screwing others. There's a reason people's dislike for southerners is keen.


Can't tell if trolling or just very stupid.

Anonymous Titus Didius Tacitus August 03, 2014 5:19 PM  

"Anti Semitism is anti White. Period."

LOL. Exclamation Point.

Debate over.

Anonymous Vodka and Soda August 03, 2014 5:27 PM  

Somewhere Glenn Beck is crying, hope you're happy.

Anonymous fnn August 03, 2014 5:35 PM  

Okay, take the U.S.S. Liberty attack, then pick another friendly fire incident with another nation with similar damage/casualties. Is the fallout treated differently or the same?

Not friendly fire. Israelis claim they mistook it for an Egyptian horse freighter! No way the most advanced electronic surveillance ship (antennae sticking out in every direction) in the world could be mistaken for a horse freighter. Plus there were Soviet ships in the area-don't you think the Izzies would have made a positive ID to make sure they weren't attacking a Soviet ship?

Anonymous Godfrey August 03, 2014 5:51 PM  

The chosen people were chosen to reveal God to the world. They were not chosen to rule it. Many Jewish supremacists believe the latter.

Anonymous Shibes Meadow August 03, 2014 6:21 PM  

"Anti Semitism is anti White. Period."

LOL. Exclamation Point.

Debate over.


Wow. Just wow.

Anonymous Wiseman August 03, 2014 6:29 PM  

"However, unlike in past centuries, there really is no possibilities of pogroms or deportations.

Tell that to the Jews of France and Germany. I'm sure they'll feel much better after being reassured by you."

Which French or German governments would allow pogroms or deportations?

No one thinks this is a risk. At best, what you have are hit and run attacks on individual jews by cowardly skinheads and muslims, which confirms what I've always known: Hard right wing whites and radical muslims are two peas in a pod. Plus, you've got Israel....Under what conditions do you think Israel would allow a pogrom or forced deportations to occur in France or Germany?

Think People.

Anonymous The other skeptic August 03, 2014 6:32 PM  

Not friendly fire. Israelis claim they mistook it for an Egyptian horse freighter!

Wait just a minute! You are telling me that the smartest people in the world mistook it for an Egyptian horse freighter and decided they need to incapacitate it?

What were they worried about? Rabid horses?

Anonymous Wiseman August 03, 2014 6:34 PM  

"Whisky, would it hurt Larry David that much to quit pissing on Christ?"

Must have been just the Jews that kept Larry David's shows on TV for so long.

Anonymous Dan in Tx August 03, 2014 6:35 PM  

The train's fine! Oops, does that make me an anti semite?

Anonymous Jack Amok August 03, 2014 6:42 PM  

How can you claim it's some sort of jewish conspiracy without evidence that jews did it as jews rather than just as bright midwits who thought they were too clever for their own good?

But it's not a conspiracy. It's tribalism, which is worse. If there were just a bunch of midwits running around screwing things up as individuals, we'd call it "liberalism" and anger wouldn't be directed at any particular ethic group. But instead we have a tribal group that retains it's tribal identity while living in someone else's homeland, and who then proceed to create problems for their hosts. Not only that, but they tend to berate their hosts if the hosts complain about the problems.

You can't plausibly claim to be just individuals while also making a habit of frequently proclaiming your ethnic loyalty. Stop proclaiming your tribal loyalty and people will stop holding you accountable for the screw-ups of your tribe.

Anonymous Vodka and Soda August 03, 2014 6:50 PM  

"Under what conditions do you think Israel would allow a pogrom or forced deportations to occur in France or Germany?"

What would Israel do? What are they capable to do against France or Germany?

Anonymous Stg58/Animal Mother August 03, 2014 6:52 PM  

@Wiseman

Hard right wing whites and muslims two peas in a pod? Whoa boy you sure aren't tall enough for this ride.

Blogger John Wright August 03, 2014 7:07 PM  

"The world knows what Ben Bernanke did last summer, so to speak. The world knows who is funding President Goldman Sachs and it understands why the head of a petty state in the Middle East can tell him off and expect him to fall in line. The world knows that the U.S. Congress is Israeli-occupied territory. The world knows who owns Hollywood, the U.S. media, and the bailed-out banks. The world knows who has been flooding its nations with third-world barbarians who don't even understand the concept of indoor plumbing."

Mr. Beale, If the media and Hollywood are controlled by the Jews, why are all their stories uniformly anti-Jewish?

Anonymous Anonymous August 03, 2014 7:35 PM  


cailcorishev/03Aug14@11:25AM,

"even the freaking X-Men movie starts with it,"

Captain America.


Cassandra (of Troy)

Anonymous The Truth is Libelous August 03, 2014 7:39 PM  

Mr. Beale, If the media and Hollywood are controlled by the Jews, why are all their stories uniformly anti-Jewish?

They are? As far as I can see, any criticism of Israel, Zion, Jews or Judaism is always reported as Anti-Semitism, racism or Arab terrorism.

Anonymous VD August 03, 2014 7:42 PM  

If the media and Hollywood are controlled by the Jews, why are all their stories uniformly anti-Jewish?

It's not a question of if. Rather than utilize logic, let's simply look at the facts concerning the media. The four biggest US media conglomerates are: Walt Disney, News Corporation, Time Warner, and Viacom.

Walt Disney CEO: Bob Iger Jewish
News Corporation CEO: Rupert Murdoch Australian
Time Warner CEO Jeff Bewkes Dutch/German
Viacom CEO: Sumner Redstone Jewish

As for Hollywood, 60 Minutes reported that 60 percent of the most important positions in Hollywood were held by Jews.

So, even a cursory look shows both majority control and between 28x and 33x statistical overrepresentation in the chief decision-making positions of the media and Hollywood. As to why they do what they do, I couldn't possibly say. One would have to ask them.

Blogger Matamoros August 03, 2014 7:48 PM  

had to be a St. Andrews Cross, the yahoodies in Charleston didn't find it overtly Christian

Actually the Battle Flag was designed by Gen. Beauregard along with Gen. Johnston and William Porcher Miles.

So perhaps you could better claim it was a Catholic affair, as Beauregard was Catholic.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P._G._T._Beauregard

Anonymous The Truth is Libelous August 03, 2014 7:48 PM  

Don't take us anti-semitic raciss word for it, Mr. Wright, Jews themselves are quite proud of their control of Hollywood.

http://articles.latimes.com/2008/dec/19/opinion/oe-stein19

Who runs Hollywood? C'mon
December 19, 2008|JOEL STEIN



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I have never been so upset by a poll in my life. Only 22% of Americans now believe "the movie and television industries are pretty much run by Jews," down from nearly 50% in 1964. The Anti-Defamation League, which released the poll results last month, sees in these numbers a victory against stereotyping. Actually, it just shows how dumb America has gotten. Jews totally run Hollywood.

How deeply Jewish is Hollywood? When the studio chiefs took out a full-page ad in the Los Angeles Times a few weeks ago to demand that the Screen Actors Guild settle its contract, the open letter was signed by: News Corp. President Peter Chernin (Jewish), Paramount Pictures Chairman Brad Grey (Jewish), Walt Disney Co. Chief Executive Robert Iger (Jewish), Sony Pictures Chairman Michael Lynton (surprise, Dutch Jew), Warner Bros. Chairman Barry Meyer (Jewish), CBS Corp. Chief Executive Leslie Moonves (so Jewish his great uncle was the first prime minister of Israel), MGM Chairman Harry Sloan (Jewish) and NBC Universal Chief Executive Jeff Zucker (mega-Jewish). If either of the Weinstein brothers had signed, this group would have not only the power to shut down all film production but to form a minyan with enough Fiji water on hand to fill a mikvah.

The person they were yelling at in that ad was SAG President Alan Rosenberg (take a guess). The scathing rebuttal to the ad was written by entertainment super-agent Ari Emanuel (Jew with Israeli parents) on the Huffington Post, which is owned by Arianna Huffington (not Jewish and has never worked in Hollywood.)

The Jews are so dominant, I had to scour the trades to come up with six Gentiles in high positions at entertainment companies. When I called them to talk about their incredible advancement, five of them refused to talk to me, apparently out of fear of insulting Jews. The sixth, AMC President Charlie Collier, turned out to be Jewish.

As a proud Jew, I want America to know about our accomplishment. Yes, we control Hollywood. Without us, you'd be flipping between "The 700 Club" and "Davey and Goliath" on TV all day.




Blogger Glen Filthie August 03, 2014 7:50 PM  

"And yet it is growing rapidly. Must be something in the water. Strange, how it just magically appears out of nowhere, for no reason."
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This is just my thinking - and I could be wrong on this and will stand corrected if proven so - but the reason, as I see it, is that Obutthole and his socialists, here and in Europe... need a diversion and scapegoats. As socialists slowly destroy the economy and the situation becomes more dire - they need to deflect growing public dissatisfaction. The Jews are excellent candidates: they are excellent businessmen and power brokers that do well in any economy, they are a small, detested and easily abused minority. There is ample historic precedent for periodic genocide against them.
I think the tide of anti-Semitism will turn on the same one which socialism floats on. Socialists are the worst racists and sexists out there, and as the progressives demonstrate - they are devolving into fascism.
Now I don't mean to imply you are a fascist or a socialist; clearly that is not the case. I simply think one of us is mistaken about the cause and effect relationship here. Time may prove me wrong and if it does...I will man up and admit I'm wrong.

Blogger Glen Filthie August 03, 2014 7:51 PM  

"And yet it is growing rapidly. Must be something in the water. Strange, how it just magically appears out of nowhere, for no reason."
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This is just my thinking - and I could be wrong on this and will stand corrected if proven so - but the reason, as I see it, is that Obutthole and his socialists, here and in Europe... need a diversion and scapegoats. As socialists slowly destroy the economy and the situation becomes more dire - they need to deflect growing public dissatisfaction. The Jews are excellent candidates: they are excellent businessmen and power brokers that do well in any economy, they are a small, detested and easily abused minority. There is ample historic precedent for periodic genocide against them.
I think the tide of anti-Semitism will turn on the same one which socialism floats on. Socialists are the worst racists and sexists out there, and as the progressives demonstrate - they are devolving into fascism.
Now I don't mean to imply you are a fascist or a socialist; clearly that is not the case. I simply think one of us is mistaken about the cause and effect relationship here. Time may prove me wrong and if it does...I will man up and admit I'm wrong.

Anonymous Wiseman August 03, 2014 7:57 PM  

"What would Israel do? What are they capable to do against France or Germany? "

I'll ask again, which kind of possible german or french government will allow pogroms and forced deportations of jews. If you can't answer this question, then don't bother any further.

THINK!!

Anonymous The other skeptic August 03, 2014 8:03 PM  

As I understand it Rupert Murdoch is Jewish.

Anonymous Wiseman August 03, 2014 8:03 PM  

"
This is just my thinking - and I could be wrong on this and will stand corrected if proven so - but the reason, as I see it, is that Obutthole and his socialists, here and in Europe... need a diversion and scapegoats. As socialists slowly destroy the economy and the situation becomes more dire - they need to deflect growing public dissatisfaction. The Jews are excellent candidates: they are excellent businessmen and power brokers that do well in any economy, they are a small, detested and easily abused minority. There is ample historic precedent for periodic genocide against them."

You think the head of the Democratic party is going drag his party into an anti-jewish policy that leads to anything close to genocide? What planet have you been living on?

"So, even a cursory look shows both majority control and between 28x and 33x statistical overrepresentation in the chief decision-making positions of the media and Hollywood. As to why they do what they do, I couldn't possibly say. One would have to ask them."

It's surprising that you haven't heard about the super-secret society of Hollywood jews that meet after Friday temple to plan their control of the media and America. It is at these super secret meetings (usually held in Chinese restaurants) where they determined that if they could only get Buffy the Vampire Slayer, The Cosby Show, Sean Hannity and Hanna Montana on the air, their plans would be nearly complete.

Anonymous VD August 03, 2014 8:09 PM  

As I understand it Rupert Murdoch is Jewish

He's not. He's definitely a Christian. His wife is a Catholic. Remarkably enough, he asked much the same question as John on Twitter two years ago.

Why Is Jewish owned press so consistently anti- Israel in every crisis?
— Rupert Murdoch(@rupertmurdoch) November 18, 2012

Anonymous VD August 03, 2014 8:11 PM  

It's surprising that you haven't heard about the super-secret society of Hollywood jews that meet after Friday temple to plan their control of the media and America.

I think it's amusing that you think trying to deflect with a silly cliched response is going to work here. The facts are the facts. You can't hide them by playing the fool.

Anonymous VD August 03, 2014 8:15 PM  

I'll ask again, which kind of possible german or french government will allow pogroms and forced deportations of jews.

And I'll ignore you again. You can bury your head in the sand if you like. I'm saying the exact same thing I've been saying for several years now. The difference is that people like Krauthammer and Cohen are finally beginning to notice.

Somehow, I doubt you'll give me any credit for having warned you when you're crying about how terrible it is and why doesn't someone stop it.

Anonymous The other skeptic August 03, 2014 8:15 PM  

His wife is a Catholic.

Which wife would that be? Certainly not the most recently divorced one, who is Chinese.

Blogger rcocean August 03, 2014 8:24 PM  

Amazing how many people - especially non-Jews -are obsessed with a small country in the middle east. As for the Jews, I think it somewhat understandable. although you'd like to see this kind of passion when "the Kraut" is talking about the USA.

Anonymous The other skeptic August 03, 2014 8:26 PM  

OK, there does seem to be some evidence Murdoch is not Jewish:

"No. They say I'm a born again Christian and a Catholic convert and so on. I'm certainly a practicing Christian, I go to church quite a bit but not every Sunday and I tend to go to Catholic church -- because my wife is Catholic, I have not formally converted. And I get increasingly disenchanted with the C of E or Episcopalians as they call themselves here. But no, I'm not intensely religious as I'm sometimes described."

I had assumed he was just another Jewish Media Mogul.

Anonymous paradox August 03, 2014 8:29 PM  

Matamoros August 03, 2014 7:48 PM

Actually the Battle Flag was designed by Gen. Beauregard along with Gen. Johnston and William Porcher Miles.


Of course the Battle Flag was designed by them. There were also other designs... with the normal Christian cross. However, they were rejected, due to the objections of Charleston, SC Jews. Who viewed the other designs as overtly Christian.

Blogger rcocean August 03, 2014 8:30 PM  

Being a rich powerful media executive. Another Job, white Gentiles don't want to do. Cf: Ivy League presidents, Members of Federal Reserve, publishing the New York Times or Wapo, or heading up major publishing firms.

Blogger rcocean August 03, 2014 8:32 PM  

Whether Murdoch is a jew, christian, or moslem is irrelevant. He's 100% in favor of 'free-trade', "open borders", and US interventionism. Not to mention putting out toxic waste entertainment programs that make $$$.

Blogger rcocean August 03, 2014 8:34 PM  

Confederate Jews: Judah Benjamin - Jefferson Davis's right-hand man and BFF. Also, David Levy Yulee, Jewish Senator from Florida.

Anonymous Michael August 03, 2014 8:48 PM  

Orville, "I'm loathe to take the fundie approach that I used to have since I suspect that the anti-christ will be a half-jew whenever he eventually shows up."

He will probably be of the tribe of Dan (Ethiopian Jew?) and deceive through signs and wonders (false miracles). He will appear most humble, working signs and wonders (false miracles), but he is Satan wearing the flesh. Remember, he does not have the power to give life, only possession.

Anyway, for more on this:

http://www.catholic.com/tracts/the-antichrist

Anonymous FUBAR Nation Ben August 03, 2014 8:49 PM  

I am well acquainted with leftist Jews and their contempt of Christian Whites and it makes me sick. To all of the Jews here who think that it can't happen here, it will. Get ready because once the economy collapses again over the next few years, you'll be seeing a lot more real and imagined anti-Semitism.

Rabbi B is correct. The vast majority of Jews today are arrogant and self-destructive. If we followed the examples of the great men like Daniel and Joseph (even a wise emperor like the great Marcus Aurelius Tinnitus) we would have less to worry about because the filth of contemporary American culture wouldn't exist due to scumbag Jews pushing it. It would be viewed as shameful to meddle in the wholesome American culture of yesteryear.

Instead, we've gotten fat off the land, our greed has blinded us to the storm that is approaching, and we think out paranoia will save us. The storm can't be stopped and it will be brutal. Winter (the breakup of America and massive wars and civil unrest) is coming. The Dragon is going to burn it all to the ground.

Anonymous zen0 August 03, 2014 8:53 PM  

@ Whomever

I'll ask again, which kind of possible german or french government will allow pogroms and forced deportations of jews.

Benign indifference and feigned incompetence can work wonders in government policy. See invasion of southern US for example.

Anonymous Anonymous August 03, 2014 9:02 PM  


The Truth is Libelous/03Aug14@7:39PM,

"As far......terrorism."

Funny you should mention that, TTiL, remember this?


Cassandra (of Troy)

Anonymous Feelings, Nothing More Than Feelings August 03, 2014 9:03 PM  

Some troll

I'll ask again, which kind of possible german or french government will allow pogroms and forced deportations of jews.


Demographics will ensure it if nothing else. As the Moslem percentage of the French population grows, burning cars may not be enough anymore. And since the French government appears to be just as suicidal regarding immigration as any other Western government, the trend is for more and more "no go" zones in La Belle France.

When the French government can no longer even provide an illusion of security for French Jewish people and their property, what will they do? Stay, or go?

Self deportation is stil deportation...

Blogger rcocean August 03, 2014 9:08 PM  

Want rating on the internet? Just talk Jews. Its even more popular then Gays or sex.

Anonymous zen0 August 03, 2014 9:10 PM  

@ Feelings

Self deportation is stil deportation...

The questioner you address is obviously under the illusion that governments Lead instead of Follow. That governments have Principles instead of Expediencies.

Typical statist claptrap.

Anonymous Anonymous August 03, 2014 9:12 PM  


VD,

Something you may find interesting re Jewish histrionics.


Cassandra (of Troy)

Anonymous GreyS August 03, 2014 9:15 PM  

If the media and Hollywood are controlled by the Jews, why are all their stories uniformly anti-Jewish?

The news media is often anti-Jewish and pro-Muslim, but Hollywood-- meaning TV and film-- produces virtually zero anti-Jewish product. Anti-Christian product is of course a far different story.

I almost don't care how much the Jews bomb (etc) those surrounding Israel. Go to those countries and meet the people-- intelligent, caring, thoughtful people turn into idiots when it comes to the subject of Israel and there's no question in my mind that many would kill every Jew in Israel once they got going.

What bothers me about the Jews is how much harm they have done to the U.S. culturally. And there are many powerful jews who seem to have a willful disobedience of God and a real mission to harm Christianity. Take any Christian-culture issue and the orgs and funders of the attacks on that issue will likely be jewish.

What is happening makes sense eschatologically-- just as some Jews more interested in power and mammon schemed against our Lord and slyly used secular power against Him, they do the same against the Christian faith.

Anonymous Mfko August 03, 2014 9:16 PM  

Vox, Your explanation could definitely account for the anti semitism in the US, which is loaded with prominent Jews, and their tribalism can be seen first hand (and can actually affect the u.s. citizens in a real way).


But we are seeing the greatest rise of anti semitism in the places without many Jews (or in some places, literally, zero Jews). What accounts for this anti semitism in corners of the world without much Jewish presence.

Anonymous Discard August 03, 2014 9:46 PM  

I understand that Rupert Murdoch's mother grew up Orthodox Jewish. That makes him, by Jewish and Israeli law, a Jew. Where he spends his Friday evenings may not matter as much as the cultural values he absorbed as a child, hatred for society at large and an exalted self-image being the relevant ones.

I grew up in Los Angeles. I have a Central European last name, and have been taken for being Jewish at times, most decisively when the California Democrats first used computerized census data. Very eye-opening to suddenly discover that every one of my "representatives", at every level of government, was Jewish. This was the time when the Waxman-Berman political machine was gaining complete dominance in L.A. Prior to this and for years after, I could have been described as a philo-Semite, but having eyes to see changed my views. I watched Jews hog the trough and call Whites greedy, hand us shit and call it chocolate. All the while laughing in our faces for being so dumb. I do not hate Jews as individuals, but I've seen what Jews in power do.

Regarding attacks on Israel by Jewish-controlled media: These are internal squabbles within the tribe. Once, two members of the Los Angeles County Community College District Board got into a fist fight during a public hearing over Israel. Seems one was a fan of Menachim Begin, and the other a supporter of the Israeli Labor Party. As the old Jewish joke goes, where there are two Jews there are three opinions.

Regarding the Samson option: As I understand, it would be simply a last blow at the world as Israel goes down. "If we die, you die too." They have, as I recall, five German built Diesel-electric subs. All of Western Europe would be within range of Israeli cruise missiles. If you think that they're not malicious or crazy enough to do that, you haven't been paying attention to what they've done with the power they have.
It might, however, be a fair trade if they could only get off half a dozen nukes before the U.S. Navy wiped them out. Londonistan, Brussels, Paris, New York and D.C. all gone. Even my home town of Los Angeles. (Not likely unless there's already a nuke stashed in the Israeli Consolate there) Most of the family has left town anyway.

Anonymous Billy August 03, 2014 9:47 PM  

Man you guys really need to learn the true history of the holocaust, and not the public school version. http://thegreateststorynevertold.tv/

Anonymous zen0 August 03, 2014 9:53 PM  

What accounts for this anti semitism in corners of the world without much Jewish presence.

Muslim presence?

Anonymous Billy August 03, 2014 10:06 PM  

Great comment @The Truth is Libelous. I am proof of Vox's assertions. Southern by the grace of god, yet I had my head up Israel' ass for practically my entire adult life. Yet no more, mother fuckers.

Anonymous Challenger Grim August 03, 2014 10:07 PM  

What's to understand? Satan runs this world and has always had it in for the people of God. That Jews & Christians both end up suffering more hatred than anything they warrant always struck me as one of the best proofs of the bible.

As countries and places start turning further away from God, of course they'll start turning against God's people. First the Jews, then Christians will come next. (and the "logic" that Vox employs here - really the worst he has in awhile - can be used just as well to charge and hang Christians by)

It's not a question of if. Rather than utilize logic, let's simply look at the facts concerning the media. The four biggest US media conglomerates are: Walt Disney, News Corporation, Time Warner, and Viacom.

Walt Disney CEO: Bob Iger Jewish
News Corporation CEO: Rupert Murdoch Australian
Time Warner CEO Jeff Bewkes Dutch/German
Viacom CEO: Sumner Redstone Jewish


And half of those are foreign so why is it "jews" messing with American and not "the foreigners"?

So, even a cursory look shows both majority control and between 28x and 33x statistical overrepresentation in the chief decision-making positions of the media and Hollywood.

And yet they're statistically underrepresented in other areas. (like when was the last major jewish sports star?) Could it just be another example of the race realism (Jews having a knack for entertainment) you're always pointing out?

As to why they do what they do, I couldn't possibly say. One would have to ask them.

Would seem to be further evidence then of just racial trends rather than any kind of conspiracy or other. Sort of like trying to argue that the Heaven's Gate cult had an aim to take over the world (kind of hard to do that once you've all killed yourselves). Likewise, what good does it do to have the Jews run the media when they're not even trying to push propaganda in their favor?

I mean if they're that self-defeating, then who cares what they're in charge of? They're the best "enemy" we could ever hope for!

Anonymous zen0 August 03, 2014 10:13 PM  

@ Discard

Londonistan, Brussels, Paris, New York and D.C. all gone.

What's the downside?

Blogger Markku August 03, 2014 10:38 PM  

Yeah, I'm thinking along those lines too. I mean, they still probably would nuke the Middle East the most. Now THAT kind of reset-button to global politics.... It juuuust might be worth the capitals and the nuclear winter.

Blogger Markku August 03, 2014 10:44 PM  

I mean, I've been thinking about it today, and the idea is kind of starting to grow on me.

Blogger Markku August 03, 2014 11:00 PM  

We are looking at a perpetual Orwellian nightmare, right? But, if the deck were to be shuffled that much? Maybe, is what I'm saying.

Blogger Vincent Castrillo August 03, 2014 11:05 PM  

This is epic truth that has been thought for decades, but only now is possible to even mutter without immediately being branded a loony.

I have always been the lone member of my family who has defended Jews from blatant all-inclusive insults and condemnation. My father has always thought of Israel as one sided blowhards who cowardly do as they please because of Euro/American support. Please note that he is from Spain and so he isn't some stereotypical skinhead from Montana. My sister and uncles always would just assume that Jews were stealing all the money and running all of Hollywood into immoral filth. Surely "Jews" as a whole couldn't be doing this?

I have always simply thought that Jews were intelligent (I've known a few dozen), connected through family and friends (not really that bad if we all still had freedom of association), and were guided from a young age into careers that would lead to greater wealth, status, even power. The idea of global Jewish Conspiracy or some long standing ethos of "destroy-the-host-parasitivism until the natives kill us" has always seemed unprovable to the point of absurdity.

No longer. Not even close. I simply can't muster the fakery. Other ethnicities in their general native area share many of their positive and negative traits, but none can combine them all to such a point of evil as they have been able to do. And the sad part is that no one Jew really is all that bad on their own (saving the biggest fish). What happens is their combined ethos destroys everything in their wake, while their arrogance mixed with their sniveling weaknesses serves to enrage even the most peaceful of hearts. So the natives are left seeing their very souls rotted out so that a few limp-wristed, down nose lookers can live in gated communities and tell everyone what to do without ever having to really work for it or fight for any of it.

I've been to Germany. When one of the premier civilized nations of the time decides to take on the whole world in a completely hopeless war simply to expel you from their homelands at all costs, you are doing something very wrong. And I understand Hilter was a madman.

I am tired of making excuses or being ok with pansy overlords whining about their version of slavery in order to subvert our country for their twisted benefit.....

I am tired of my kids' futures being shaped by these clowns. I am tired of them enabling the degenerates, the immoral, and the foreign to convert and destroy this country simply to make themselves swim in money and status/power. They continuously pit black and white against each other to stay above the fray and profit from the malaise. Despite all this and more, they then have the nerve to sue every real company in this country that doesn't suck their silly agendas down their throats. They whine about being oppressed or hated while getting any and all preferences. They have successfully pilfered virtually all of the wealth and power and greedily sucked it up from actually working for Americans as a whole.
An America that they were and are still more than welcome to join in building/sustaining.
But of course their Jewish mother can't possibly have their son not be a lawyer or their daughter marry a gentile. Or fight in a war for that matter (America).

Zuckerberg? Billions. What exactly is he value adding? Look at Henry Ford for someone who could build and support and entire 1st world region of a great country. And he was super rich as well. Jews are at their core zero-sum actors.

I guess I am saddened that now VD will almost certainly be considered a Stromfronter now, but unfortunately for Jews no one seems to really care anymore.

Blogger Markku August 03, 2014 11:09 PM  

I was a white-knight for Israel too, heh. Oh, how I did fight for Israel.

Anonymous 11B August 03, 2014 11:09 PM  

To all of the Jews here who think that it can't happen here, it will.

@FUBAR Nation Ben

It has already happened in the USA. During the Civil War General Grant issued an eviction notice towards Jews in certain states that is little known today. It wasn't along the lines of a major pogrom, but I definitely would never have guessed it would have happened in the USA.

Anonymous Ghost of Adolf August 03, 2014 11:22 PM  

I don't see much future for the Americans. It's a decayed country. And they have their racial problem, and the problem of social of social inequalities . . . Everything about the behavior of American society reveals that it's half Judaized, and the other half negrified. How can one expect a State like that to hold together - a country where everything is built on the dollar?"

Anonymous 11B August 03, 2014 11:24 PM  

Amazing how many people - especially non-Jews -are obsessed with a small country in the middle east. As for the Jews, I think it somewhat understandable. although you'd like to see this kind of passion when "the Kraut" is talking about the USA.

@rcocean

There are a few reasons why non-Jews like me are concerned about small country in the middle east.

First, over $120 million of our tax money has been sent to that country. Additionally, America routinely guarantees her loans, and now must pony up additional funding for the recent conflict said nation is involved in.

Second, that country has been involved in a damaging spy ring that gave US Navy secrets to the USSR.

Third, every time that country has a problem with its neighbors, it immediately becomes an American problem.

Fourth, my nation is expected to veto any UN resolution critical of that middle eastern nation despite the political damage it causes for America worldwide.

Fifth, politicians who don't show proper respect to this little middle eastern nation, get blackballed by the media and heads of the two parties. As a result patriots like Patrick Buchanan are ignored while those who suck up to said middle eastern nation are promoted.

Sixth, my nation wastes blood and treasure trolling around the rest of the middle east to make it safe for that certain little country..

Seventh, every US president in my lifetime, elected to serve the American people, is expected to devote a considerable amount of his time to solving the crisis between that little middle eastern country and its neighbors.

I'm sure others could add to this list. But the bottom line is that small country in the mid east has more influence in my nation than any other country, I am surprised to learn of any American who does not think about them a lot.

Anonymous Eric Ashley August 03, 2014 11:32 PM  

The USA did MAD as a strategy, so some sort of widespread Samson Option seems reasonable. Of course, I'm a vindictive so and so.

As to Israel invading France....the city of Paris once surrendered to five US marines out for a night of beer, so yeah, Israel could probably do it. More seriously, dude, we're talking about Euros. Except for England they'd lose in a fight with a paper sack.

As for those who are annoyed that Southern conservative Christians aren't riding to their aid, what say you try to stop hacking us off first, and then we'll think about rescuing you from the idiocy you got yourself into. Everyone wants the Southrons help while at the same time cursing him to his face....its like dealing with stereotypical teenagers 'I hate you Dad, now give me twenty bucks.'

Blogger John Wright August 03, 2014 11:36 PM  

"It's not a question of if. Rather than utilize logic...."

The facts themselves mean nothing without interpretation. You list the Jewish owners of Hollywood businesses, without saying whether they are Liberal or Conservative, for example.

Does this mean their bloodline, or their tribal loyalties, causes them to do what they do rather than, for example, their political philosophy?

And you did not answer my question.

I have heard countless news reports from the mainstream media over the past week reporting Palestinian casualty rates, and denouncing Jewish use of force, including one report that a UN official denounced Israel for failing to share her Iron Dome technology with Hamas.

Not one of those reports were even close to neutral, fair, or balanced. Not one mentioned the Hamas practice of placing batteries in schools and hospitals. Not one mentioned the provocation, or even if there were a provocation. We hear from the prosecution and not from the defense.

A slant to the news is to be expected. A overwhelming slant reaches the point where it is pure propaganda. Having heard nothing but pure and extraordinarily vehement anti-Israeli propaganda, I read on your site your conviction that the Jews control the media.

If you have not heard news stories like this, so be it. I can only judge by what I see and hear.

So you list for me the religious and tribal identities of some Hollywood bigwigs and not others.

Do the Jews who own Hollywood corporations act in concert?

Do they act in concert for a goal?

Do they act in concern toward a goal that advantages them to the disadvantage of the interests of the United States?

If you answer all three questions in the affirmative, please explain why media they control are putting out outrageously unbalanced pro-Hamas propaganda packaged as news?

Anonymous Anonymous August 03, 2014 11:50 PM  


Shimshon/03Aug14@10:05AM,

"There was......the Jews."

W/ that attitude in mind, you may find this item of interest.


Cassandra (of Troy)

Anonymous Anonymous August 03, 2014 11:55 PM  


Sherwood family/03Aug14@10:16AM,

"I am......forward."

Less of this & this, & more of this & this would go quite far in reducing the antipathy many Gentile Americans have toward Jews. It's hard for the Klan/neo-Nazis/similar to effectively portray Jews as tyrannical enslavers when Jews themselves advocate for not only the metaphysical foundation for resisting tyranny & enslavement (the right to resist using weapons) but also the physical ability to acquire the most effective means to do so.

The hypocritical Jewish anti-gun attitude ('guns for me & mine, not for thee & thine') unnecessarily angers lots of people who'd support them, & the stupidest part's that those Jews publicly display their haughty disdain for these allies & then become furious when the objects of Jewish scorn turn against those deriding them.


Cassandra (of Troy)

Anonymous The Truth is Libelous August 04, 2014 12:13 AM  

If you have not heard news stories like this, so be it. I can only judge by what I see and hear.

So you list for me the religious and tribal identities of some Hollywood bigwigs and not others.

Do the Jews who own Hollywood corporations act in concert?

Do they act in concert for a goal?

Do they act in concern toward a goal that advantages them to the disadvantage of the interests of the United States?


I know you're trying to dialogue with Vox here...but come on, Mr. Wright.

Are you that oblivious to the pro-homo, anti-Christian, immoral depravity that has been spewed forth by the Jewish run media for the past 3 decades?

To reiterate - the secular, athiest left wing Jews view of American Christians is encapsulated perfectly with that quote I linked to from the LATimes:

As a proud Jew, I want America to know about our accomplishment. Yes, we control Hollywood. Without us, you'd be flipping between "The 700 Club" and "Davey and Goliath" on TV all day.

Thanks, Jews! Instead of The 700 Club, we get to immerse ourselves in regularly scheduled programming promoting atheism, sexual depravity, homosexuality, promiscuity, multi-culturalism and mass consumerism.

There's your goal, your single agenda these Jews are working in concert towards, Mr. Wright. The subversion of what was once a Christian-based society.

The Jew-run media is effecting the long march through the remnants of Western Civilization, and neo-con Zionists remain oblivious because of "pro-Palestinian propaganda" of the "left wing" media.

Mr. Wright, the answer you are looking for is this: The Hegelian Dialect. Thesis + Anti-Thesis = Synthesis. Also known as controlled opposition.

When supposedly left wing media sources like CNN, MSNBC, Huffington Post et al promote Pro-Palestinian propaganda, it reinforces the right wing conservative teevee viewers commitment to "the only free Democracy and staunch ally of the USA in the Middle East!" support for the Zionist agenda.

Anonymous 11B August 04, 2014 12:16 AM  

The USA did MAD as a strategy, so some sort of widespread Samson Option seems reasonable. Of course, I'm a vindictive so and so.

MAD was a policy that would ensure the USSR would be destroyed if they launched a preemptive attack on the USA, and vice versa. Other nations were not targeted. Of course if the USA and USSR expended all there nukes upon one another, the rest of the world would have been adversely affected.

The Samson Option, as described by Van Creveld, is different. It doesn't only assure the destruction of those who attack Israel, but also ensures the destruction apparently of those who are neutral and don't come to Israel's aid. According to Van Creveld, Israel would nuke Rome and other European capitals if the Iranians or others ever took them down.

That's a pretty chicken shit policy. Even the USSR during the Cold War never threatened to nuke non-aligned nations. Ditto for the USA.

As to Israel invading France....the city of Paris once surrendered to five US marines out for a night of beer, so yeah, Israel could probably do it. More seriously, dude, we're talking about Euros. Except for England they'd lose in a fight with a paper sack.


Israel cannot invade and occupy France, period. Now they could attempt to nuke it, but would have to deal with a retaliatory response that they probably couldn't stop. But there is no way they could invade and occupy France.

Though they have a highly capable military that could ward off attackers, they don't have the manpower or logistics to cross the Mediterranean and land in France in numbers to conquer and occupy.

To disable the French Air Force they'd have to sortie around the clock for a month or more nonstop, and they don't have the ability to do that. They can launch precision one-off strikes, but they can't do a sustained campaign like the USA where the USAF can fly day-in day-out for a month at a time dropping ordinance around the clock. Just this little two week operation in Gaza is depleting their stocks of munitions. And this doesn't even compare to what would be needed to take on France.

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