Fighting over there
A second ISIS fighter from Minnesota is killed in Syria:
How much more do you pro-immigrationists need to see before you admit that you were terribly, terribly wrong? Do you actually need to see them beheading young men and women on the streets of St. Paul before you decide that maybe settling jihadists where University of Minnesota college students used to live was a fundamentally disastrous idea?
Or are you still clinging to your idiotic, reprehensible, societally devastating notions of human and cultural equality?
A second American turned ISIS terrorist was killed in the same Syrian shootout where a California man died last weekend.So, how long will it be before they stop fighting Americans over there and begin fighting Americans in America? Not very long, I tend to suspect. I've been hearing rumors about something taking place in Chicago aka Obamaland for about two weeks now. And Chicago is only about a six hour drive from Minneapolis.
UPDATE: The ISIS fighter was from the Minneapolis Somali community.
According to Fox 9 sources, Abdiraaman Muhumed — who was the focus of an MPR story just two months ago — died in the same battle as Douglas McCain, a former Robbinsdale-Cooper High School student.
How much more do you pro-immigrationists need to see before you admit that you were terribly, terribly wrong? Do you actually need to see them beheading young men and women on the streets of St. Paul before you decide that maybe settling jihadists where University of Minnesota college students used to live was a fundamentally disastrous idea?
Or are you still clinging to your idiotic, reprehensible, societally devastating notions of human and cultural equality?
Labels: Clash of Civilizations, immigration
64 Comments:
Pbbbfffffft!
They will cling to their idiotic ideology, of course.
Jeez Vox, are you friggin STUPID? The reason they are having so many battles in the middle east is because there just isn't enough multiculturalism over there. This is what happens when things aren't diverse or vibrant enough: people get bored and start killing for the fun of it
BEEEEEEEEEEELCH!
Sure, I'll have another beer Vox...
The Somalis are mostly not immigrants, they are refugees.
Refugees get full welfare benefits since the law says they must get equal treatment to Americans.
So the US taxpayer has probably paid for this guy most of his life.
I've got a theory. The egalitarians are so driven by their emotions that they can't hold anti-diversity opinions without simultaneously hating other races.
Never really met a more Liberal bunch then the Minnesota side of my family. I'm just not sure they deserve to live, they are always going to be the problem, never the answer. Forgive my simplicity but the more Liberal Women who are gang raped, and watch their sons beheaded (I doubt if it would trouble them to see their husbands beheaded), the closer we get to a better society. Because if they live they will sure not do what's required to keep me safe. As a matter of fact they'll probably demand that more Somalis are sent to Rural California so it will all be more equal. We can't save stupid white liberals and save ourselves at the same time.
So the US taxpayer has probably paid for this guy most of his life.
That is the genius of the Left--use they use my money against me.
Things are frosty here in the states. Americans are pissed.
...the plantation of people, as it seems is always the case when governments move people for political purposes, leaves a poorer and struggling ethnic minority. And their reluctance to assimilate leaves long term social challenges."
...Rick Steves
So, how long will it be before they stop fighting Americans over there and begin fighting Americans in America?
For the ones that survive their summer camp in Syria, they will come back here with a ton of live-fire experience. That's not good.
11BAugust 29, 2014 7:22 PM
...the plantation of people, as it seems is always the case when governments move people for political purposes, leaves a poorer and struggling ethnic minority. And their reluctance to assimilate leaves long term social challenges."
...Rick Steves
Europe belongs to... RICK STEVES
"Be headings on the streets of St. Paul?"
It's the barbarian outback of the barbarian colonies, I can see that it could happen. Unlike someplace civilized and cultured like London.
"That's a bit melodramatic."
I believe that being dramatic is the intent.
Should be noted that barbarians, once within the gates, tend to go after the sexual deviants of the ruling class, as well as their wine cellars.
I'm sad to see you're reading Max Hastings. He's a crap left-wing journalist posing as an historian. His research is not only shoddy, but he crams each books with absurd, eccentric, criticism of Generals, politicians, and even entire countries.
He can be entertaining though. And in this dumbed down age, he's thought of as "brilliant".
Hahaha, you mean you've looked at drudge occassionally over the last two weeks? Idiot.
Pro-tip: When calling someone an idiot, take particular care to avoid misspellings.
I for one welcome our Muslim overlords.
The FedGov is about to get the Comprehensive Immigration Reform they have been clamoring for; just not on their terms. For some of them, I will do my part to make sure they are on the other side of the American border when CIR happens.
Nice. First we have our vibrant Coon Rapids citizen who was one flight away from bringing Ebola to the Mall of America (he only managed to spread the disease to a handful of healthcare workers in Nigeria, most of whom subsequently died horribly). Now we get to celebrate diversity by mourning a Minnesotan jihadist.
I said it a few days ago and stand by it - Minnesota brings more lib-prog stupidity this side of California to the 50 states than any of its nearest competitors. You betcha!
Off topic: Pre-Cambrian "rabbit"* found.
http://www.evolutionnews.org/2014/08/metaspriggina_v089471.html
from the article:
A vertebrate swimming fish with camera eyes, blood vessels, digestive system, muscular swimming, and gills in the Lower Cambrian: for Darwinists, it should hardly be more surprising to find than a Precambrian rabbit.
If we could only get the Muzzies to take an interest in these weird folk.
Should be better than goats.
And, from Drudge, link to National Review about a fed report of isis activity across the river from El Paso, Tx. Now, if those isis fools are crazy enough to pop a small nuke in El Paso watch for the great state of Texas to secede and ask any and all to follow them.
Obama refuses to obey the Law and secure the border and then one of his agencies hands out this kind of report? Now, all they are doing is rubbing out noses in it.
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/386694/judicial-watch-feds-bulletin-describes-threat-imminent-terrorist-attack-southern
I would like to think that some American would go all McVeigh on a mosque or two if there was a beheading in the US ala Britain. I would also like to think he wouldn't get convicted if the US government stupidly took him alive, although it might take a hung jury or two before that happened.
The Somalis are mostly not immigrants, they are refugees.
Yes, and they're refugees from a situation in great part created by the United States. Remember Black Hawk Down? There's a certain karmic symmetry here.
I remember when I first heard about problems with Asian immigrants in the UK, several decades ago. It seemed strange to me: Brown people in England? Then I realized, these brown people were (and are) from the "former" British colonies, and there is simply a natural law process fulfilling itself.
As an empire passes its peak, all its strength goes to the overextended periphery, leaving a vacuum at the center, which the barbarians from conquered territories naturally flow in to fill. Nature abhors.... It happened to Rome, and it's happened, and happening, to Britain. And it's happening to the U.S.
Ron Paul was – and is – right: They're over here because we're over there. The only way to escape the inevitable fate of empires is to not be one.
@ jack
Obama refuses to obey the Law and secure the border and then one of his agencies hands out this kind of report?
Just another piece of evidence of Obama's stealth Jihad.
And if anyone still thinks the Caliphate will never happen, check this out. It is an organizational idea the globalists like Kissinger would approve of:
the Muslim union of scholars lead by Qaradawi is setting up the theological precedence by announcing that a future confederacy of Muslim nations must and will be established and centered in the land of the Muslim Caliphate in Turkey.
It happened to Rome, and it's happened, and happening, to Britain. And it's happening to the U.S.
Then why has it not happened to Turkey? Why has it not happened to Japan? Why has it not happened to North Africa? Why has it not happened to Mongolia?
Then why has it not happened to Turkey? Why has it not happened to Japan? Why has it not happened to North Africa? Why has it not happened to Mongolia?
Different situations. The Ottoman Empire was aging and decadent, but it didn't die the same sort of death as the Roman Empire; its territories outside the homeland were taken by force by other, stronger empires, mostly by Britain. And the Turks still do have troubles with the significant portion of modern Turkey which isn't Turkish (i.e. most of "Kurdistan"), but which the Turks won't let go of.
Japan's "empire" lasted only some 50 years, most of it little more than a decade, and again all its territories outside the homeland were taken away by another, stronger empire. Had the Japanese Empire lasted for a century or more, and decayed away from its own inner rot, Japan might look very different. Then too, the Japanese have always been unapologetically chauvinist. As has been pointed out, Gandhi would have had a very different experience had he been dealing with Japan.
North Africa had an empire? North Africa was the first and closest part of the French Empire, and the French are now suffering the same troubles with a large foreign population who've immigrated from their former colonies, primarily North Africa.
Mongolia? That empire too was a very short story, not at all like the British; and Mongolia itself was not a place that would be attractive to people from the more civilized countries to the west that Mongolia briefly conquered. There's hardly any there there; in fact Mongolia didn't really exist before Chinghis melded together a bunch of predatory Altaic tribes into a "nation".
There's hardly any there there; in fact Mongolia didn't really exist before Chinghis melded together a bunch of predatory Altaic tribes into a "nation".
The same might be said for the Mohammedans. Pastoralist, nomadic bandits whom Mohammed welded together into an imperial force and proceeded to homogenize cultures from North Africa to the Asian subcontinent and even tentatively into the Pacific. Then Mohammed died and they've been cutting each other's heads off ever since.
And, from Drudge, link to National Review about a fed report of isis activity across the river from El Paso, Tx. Now, if those isis fools are crazy enough to pop a small nuke in El Paso watch for the great state of Texas to secede and ask any and all to follow them.
By the way, Fort Bliss, Texas is in El Paso. It is the fairly new home (3 - 5 years) of the 1st Armored division. Jihadi's might just be interested in that, in various ways.
Another reason Japan didn't have this happen is that in addition to having their colonies completely chopped off their (new) empire, they were conquered by a stronger empire, not weakened over centuries by internal rot.
So they never imported the barbarians inside. And of the 1-2% of the population of Japan who aren't ethnically Japanese, they are registered as non-Japanese in the records and kept a small portion of the populace.
There are zero mainstream voices in Japan calling for more immigration. Neither the mainstream nor the fringe want foreigners. At most the tiny portion on non-Japanese will continue to win some more rights as 3, 4, 8th generation Japan residents.
You didn’t see it coming, did you…
Feds’ Bulletin Describes Threat of Imminent Terrorist Attack on Southern Border
http://tinyurl.com/oaxjwlx
Now what have I been saying? That our border is as wide open as the legs of the Mother of all Whores? Now, of course, unless you are a single cell brain thunker, it is pretty damn obvious that our government is not oblivious to that fact. Yet, they have done NOTHING to seal up our border. Thousands of people, of unknown origin, cross our border every month… and our government does nothing to secure our border. Yet, they are telling us…
Imminent Terrorist Attack on Southern Border!
Who wants to be the first to tell me that this is not a deliberate act by our government, knowing full well, that anyone who wishes to do you harm, can just slip over the government approved open border?
de·lib·er·ate : done consciously and intentionally
Sooo… you, the American citizen, have been, and are being, set up. As simple as that.
Then why has it not happened to Turkey? Why has it not happened to Japan? Why has it not happened to North Africa? Why has it not happened to Mongolia?
Forgive me, I'm slow. But to whom are you responding?
Turkey is a secular dictatorship, like Syria. Fragile.
Japan is homogenous to a degree modern Americans cannot comprehend. Japan is basically Nazi Germany, but with Japanese.
"It" has happened to Libya. Not Egypt, because the Egyptian generals are slaughtering anybody who doesn't go along with the program.
I don't know what the talk is about "Mongolia." Does Mongloia still actually exist beyond some geographic coordinates that China and Russia still agree to acknowledge?
Jeez Vox, are you friggin STUPID? The reason they are having so many battles in the middle east is because there just isn't enough multiculturalism over there.
Nah. It's because EvilWhiteMen(TM) stole their oil or something.
The only way to escape the inevitable fate of empires is to not be one.
I disagree. Preach the gospel. Defend civilization. Honour Jesus.
Every empire would be intact to this day if it had followed this dictum.
Islam has an anti-Christ Jesus.
infact The anti-Christ Jesus should be the title of a book. It desperately needs to be written. It could have a pithy life saving subtitle: a letter to the churches who give a f..........
If you want to save lives just trawl through history and do everything that works:
The law of pragmatics.
Another dead muzzie? More, I say, many many more.
- Yusuf
'...maybe settling jihadists where University of Minnesota college students used to live was a fundamentally disastrous idea?"
You guys are such radicals, with your crazy ideas about not wanting to see beheadings on American soil.
How did I guess Vox might find this interesting. My favorite part was he was 29 and the father of 9 children with multiple women. If only we could ship All of them over to be killed in battle. Maybe the fine citizens of the Twin Cities can mass produce leaflets to convince All these fine devout Muslims to go be killed in a foreign place where it isn't our problem. We save welfare dollars, taxes and bullets
but but but... NAMALT!!!
"Then why has it not happened to Turkey? Why has it not happened to Japan? Why has it not happened to North Africa? Why has it not happened to Mongolia?"
Turkey, aka. the Ottoman Empire, collapsed at the end of WWI, being humiliatingly carved up into lots of pieces along neat geographic lines that I can only assume Woodrow Wilson decided upon in a drunken stupor.
Japan has had its ups and downs, not that much unlike Britain. Suffered total defeat at the end of WW2, spared by America because they were needed as an ally against Russia.
North Africa never fully recovered from the Punic Wars. Just when they were starting to get back on their feet a little bit, that nasty 7th century jihad came along.
And Mongolia went from controlling the largest land empire in history to... lots of yak herding. Theirs wasn't the most precipitous decline in history, but it's got to be on the short list.
One of the African "American" ISIS warriors was inspired to be a terrorist by the movie The Help. Hollywood has gone so bonkers with the hate Whitey meme in movies that they're creating real non-white terrorists willing to fight and die to destroy the West. Now hopefully all those "Arabs" that run Hollywood can start enjoying the blowback. LOL
Squat Latinos expel Teh Jewz:
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-28992743
Philalethes: "I remember when I first heard about problems with Asian immigrants in the UK, several decades ago. It seemed strange to me: Brown people in England? Then I realized, these brown people were (and are) from the "former" British colonies, and there is simply a natural law process fulfilling itself."
Privileged anti-whites are facilitating non-white mass immigration into all white countries and only white countries, including white countries without a colonial and imperial history.
Sweden isn't being colonized by non-whites as "karma" for the Swedish Empire as part of w-word g-word thing-that-shall-not-be-spoken-of.
The Swedish Empire had colonies in the New World and one in Africa. It also fought Muslim Tatars in its expansionist wars.
Rus-sia, which, after freeing itself from the Tatar Yoke, has swept across the north Asian plain to the Pacific, is essentially a Swedish colony turned empire, with much bitter blood between them and Muslim Asians.
"...settling jihadists where University of Minnesota college students used to live..."
Xenophon's Ways and Means. 2400 years later; same sh*t, different millennium. I'm guessing the housing market was supposed to be the modern equivalent of Laurium.
"Hollywood has gone so bonkers with the hate Whitey meme in movies that they're creating real non-white terrorists willing to fight and die to destroy the West. "
End of Boyz N The Hood has a special thanks to the Nation of Islam. In the long run it's the blink of an eye, but it's surprising from a single armchair how long it's been going on unapologetically. Never agai... well alright kids, just this once more.
"...part of w-word g-word thing-that-shall-not-be-spoken-of."
A New World Order: One wog at a time.
kfg, and you're willing to argue that consistently with the Norwegian Empire and so on?
Oh dear, it's rather disconcerting when the post I quoted so snarkily earlier in the thread disappears.
Perhaps our inestimable host could clean up loose ends and delete my post(s) too?
Yes, and they're refugees from a situation in great part created by the United States. Remember Black Hawk Down?
That's utterly ridiculous. We responded to a pre-existing crisis in Somalia - not long after the Rwanda massacres - we didn't create it.
As I recall, we were attempting to supply food to Somalis who were starving as a result of a civil war, but quickly realized that without military guard, the warlords snatched the food from the mouths of women and children to supply their fighters. Good grief, Clinton had actually treated it as a military mission, rather than a "humanitarian" do-gooder one, our guys might have lived to tell the tale.
We certainly didn't cause the chaos in Somalia; the Somalis were quite capable of creating a lawless shithole all by themselves.
Oh good grief. Had Clinton treated it ..., not "Clinton had treated it."
Sorry all.
They are not "fighting Americans" in Syria, the US has no soldiers there, and Assad is not even a US ally. If they succeed in Syria presumably they'd immigrate there. Of course with the US bombing them they will likely respond in self-defense, the US government is only too happy to sacrifice American lives for oil, Isreal, and government expansion
Not that I welcome it but, a beheading or two on US soil may just be what is needed to wake the sheeple to whats going on.
And I say yeah yeah yeah, whats going on.
Far more disturbing than the fact that he went jihad is the fact that he was a father of nine. Nine.
Daniel H wites "Far more disturbing than the fact that he went jihad is the fact that he was a father of nine. Nine."
Yes, nine welfare checks and soon nine voters.
This weekend, remember to catch the documentary about American citizens killing babies. Over here. Daily.
They will never admit they're wrong. They must be forced to admit it and repent, or be killed.
I would like to think that some American would go all McVeigh on a mosque or two if there was a beheading in the US ala Britain.
I do believe this will happen, beheading or no beheading. There are a lot of pissed-off veterans out here.
"Yes, nine welfare checks and soon nine voters."
And soon nine suitors for your White daughters.
It's not like they haven't already got outposts. Plenty of muslim military training camps in the US already.
Just google 'islamic camps in america' .. http://madworldnews.com/22-jihad-camps-fbi/ lists some where some of the inhabitants got onto the local police force so they could give their pals a heads-up.
We certainly didn't cause the chaos in Somalia; the Somalis were quite capable of creating a lawless shithole all by themselves.
And short of killing them by the bushel fucking basket full, we really can't stop them from making a shithole of wherever they live. Future humanitarian missions should be guided by that knowledge. So should immigration policy.
"We can't save stupid white liberals and save ourselves at the same time. "
Now that, is a classic. A statement which deserves to be copyrighted, placed on mastheads, printed on bumper stickers, and blasted over loudspeakers wherever people gather.
It's tempting, as I have myself stated, to step back wherever possible and allow the secular Kumbaya screeching political left lead themselves to slaughter. More or less: "Thy will be done", as God is imagined as saying to stiff-necked sinners and enemies of the good as they propel themselves into next-to-nothingness. Though they are of course, in practice, frantically doing their damnedest to shackle everyone else to them for the journey to nowhere.
I guess that is part of the collectivist mentality. "Wherever we go, we go together ..."
Think there was a song like that once upon a time.
That's exactly why my daughter didn't go to the U. The music building is about a nine iron from that den of savages.
" . . .you're willing to argue that consistently with the Norwegian Empire . . ."
Norway has been part of the both the Danish and Swedish empires.
". . . and so on?"
Andorra is part of the Franco-Iberian Empire, as well as that of the Vatican, one of its princes being a Bishop. It is said that it came into existence as a grant by Charlamagne for aiding him in his Christian Imperial war against the Moors.
San Marino is holding its own. Perhaps it can be a white Christian ghetto.
And so in every case, the g-word of whites by mass non-white immigration and forced assimilation is the natural corollary of white imperialism, and if that white nation wasn't imperial it was connected to others that were, in some sense, at some time or other, casting one's net back as far as Charlemagne.
This is justifying w-word g-word thing-that-shall-not-be-mentioned.
It's not about the particular history of any white nation: Welsh, English, Scottish, Irish or any other. Talk of the concrete history of any particular nation is a smoke screen, and not a thick one. This is about eliminationist racial aggression against whites, by those who think it would be fitting to put whites in "ghettos" and worse.
kfg: "San Marino is holding its own. Perhaps it can be a white Christian ghetto."
To be fair, your racial animus is not directed promiscuously against anyone with pale skin. You know who your enemies are: it's to be a white Christian ghetto. So there is a religious as well as an ethnic / racial angle.
"This is about eliminationist racial aggression against whites, by those who think it would be fitting to put whites in "ghettos" and worse."
Certainly.
"So there is a religious as well as an ethnic / racial angle."
Ditto.
"You know who your enemies are . . ."
I would think that would be the first element of strategy. My family have been on the front lines against the Islamic invasion since the first day.
" . . .your racial animus is not directed promiscuously against anyone with pale skin."
I'm not sure how knowing my enemy somehow transfers me into their camp.
kfg: "My family have been on the front lines against the Islamic invasion since the first day."
Very commendable.
The Somalis are mostly not immigrants, they are refugees.
Refugees get full welfare benefits since the law says they must get equal treatment to Americans.
So the US taxpayer has probably paid for this guy most of his life.
Third-country resettlement (which almost always means dumping them in white English-speaking or Scandinavian countries) should be banned for Muslim "refugees", at the very least.
As an empire passes its peak, all its strength goes to the overextended periphery, leaving a vacuum at the center, which the barbarians from conquered territories naturally flow in to fill. Nature abhors.... It happened to Rome, and it's happened, and happening, to Britain. And it's happening to the U.S.
Ron Paul was – and is – right: They're over here because we're over there. The only way to escape the inevitable fate of empires is to not be one.
That would explain why France has so many black Africans, and the U.K. so many South Asians, but it wouldn't really explain the huge numbers of Turks and Moroccans in Western Europe, since Turkey was never taken over by a colonial power, and Moroccans aren't only in France or Spain.
Or, for that matter, Middle Eastern Muslim "refugees" in Scandinavia.
The first mistake is thinking of these creatures as "Americans".
~ All the way....and then some.
"nine welfare checks and soon nine voters."
Soon? Dude, they've been voting since before they were born. And their dead jihadi father will continue to vote, early and often.
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