We've been warning you
esr points out the obvious. Twice.
Second, the Left simply has to deal with racial reality. In the USA, crime is a predominantly black problem. Not because they're poor, not because the Man is keeping them down, not because of slavery, but because blacks are, on average, less intelligent, possess shorter time preferences, and are much more likely to have a genetic predisposition towards aggressive behavior than the rest of the population. Those are three facts that have been repeatedly substantiated by science and there is literally nothing to discuss about them except for the consequences. Nor are they any more in doubt or racist than the statement that young men between the ages of 15 and 30 commit more crime than old women between the ages of 65 and 80 is sexist or ageist.
Third, I endorse Instapundit's suggestion: "A simple rule would be to provide that police can have only weapons that a civilian could lawfully possess, since they’re civilians themselves."
I join my voice to those of Rand Paul and other prominent libertarians who are reacting to the violence in Ferguson, Mo. by calling for the demilitarization of the U.S.’s police. Beyond question, the local civil police in the U.S. are too heavily armed and in many places have developed an adversarial attitude towards the civilians they serve, one that makes police overreactions and civil violence almost inevitable.First, it's ridiculous that some liberals have been feigning to be ignorant of libertarians protesting the militiarization of the badge gang. Radley Balko has singlehandedly led the charge against it, and been backed up by Glenn Reynolds's campaign to advocate the legal right of the citizenry to film the police. There are scores of posts dating back years right here on this blog under the tag NWA was right. It's the Left that has been silently approving of the growing police state, not the libertarian Right. I don't need to add my voice to esr's and Rand Paul's because it has been there all along. Demilitarize the police and do it now!
But I publish this blog in part because I think it is my duty to speak taboo and unspeakable truths. And there’s another injustice being done here: the specific assumption, common among civil libertarians, that police overreactions are being driven by institutional racism. I believe this is dangerously untrue and actually impedes effective thinking about how to prevent future outrages.
In the Kivila language of the Trobriand Islands there is a lovely word, “mokita”, which means “truth we all know but agree not to talk about”. I am about to speak some mokitas.
Second, the Left simply has to deal with racial reality. In the USA, crime is a predominantly black problem. Not because they're poor, not because the Man is keeping them down, not because of slavery, but because blacks are, on average, less intelligent, possess shorter time preferences, and are much more likely to have a genetic predisposition towards aggressive behavior than the rest of the population. Those are three facts that have been repeatedly substantiated by science and there is literally nothing to discuss about them except for the consequences. Nor are they any more in doubt or racist than the statement that young men between the ages of 15 and 30 commit more crime than old women between the ages of 65 and 80 is sexist or ageist.
Third, I endorse Instapundit's suggestion: "A simple rule would be to provide that police can have only weapons that a civilian could lawfully possess, since they’re civilians themselves."
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Honestly, white people should simply come out and say that it's none of their business if a vibrant dies, since vibrants don't care about the multiple white victims of police murder that the media ignores.
'In the Kivila language of the Trobriand Islands there is a lovely word, “mokita”, which means “truth we all know but agree not to talk about”.'
times like these the utter poverty of the english language is exposed. We have words that mean the same thing as other words. We have words that sound the same as other words but do not mean the same things. We have multiple definitions for almost all of our words.
But we have no word for this.
I made this point a few posts back. I don't care what color Michael Brown or the guy in LA or Kelly Thomas or anyone else was. Katt Williams made that point in his last stand up. It's not black against white anymore, it's us vs them. The media is tie-me-to-a-chair-and-zap-my-taint-with-a-car-battery excited for a race war, and they may well get it, but not if black people can wake up to who the real enemy is.
First, it's ridiculous that some liberals have been feigning to be ignorant of libertarians protesting the militiarization of the badge gang.
They would have shared a smug snicker at the "conspiracy theorists" and "rightwing nutjobs" who brought up the issue before this, no doubt.
The North Hollywood shootout put the kabash on any notion of demilitarization.
They have to feign ignorance, if they ever admitted the right had a valid point on anything it would destroy their faith in their religion.
If the left starts talking about race honestly, I am going to move my family to another country for a few years, and return after the impending ethnic cleanse. There isn't a lot of logic on that side, and when the emotional ball gets rolling its going all the way down that rabbit hole.
The 2nd amendment should probably have been worded in similar fashion.
Agreed, it is the arrogance of the whebes that Big Sister will not smack them down right alongside the rest of us.
How do you like them apples?
...if black people can wake up to who the real enemy is.
Worth repeating what Vox wrote:
"...because blacks are, on average, less intelligent, possess shorter time preferences, and are much more likely to have a genetic predisposition towards aggressive behavior than the rest of the population."
You may not care about race, but race cares about you.
But we have no word for this.
Of course we do. This is English. Our word for it is now "mokita," because that's how we roll.
It is intersting to see how the situation is being defused in Ferguson. They turned the policing of Ferguson over to the MO State Highway Patrol. The commander on the scene is Black. He ordered the cops to demilitarize their posture, and has, along with other demilitarized officers, been mingling with the people in the street in a number of venues.
This whole episode is an object lesson in 4Gen war. Bringing overwhelming firepower to bear inflames the situation, identify with the people de-escalates it.
"Those are three facts that have been repeatedly substantiated by science . . ."
And, for what it's worth, the Bible ...
One only need consider the Hebrew etymology of the word "Ham", as in Shem, Ham and Japheth. In the Hebrew, "Ham" means 'heat, the excited action of our senses, from the root glowing and relating to fermenting'. The idea is best translated as hot sensuality. The etymologies of Shem [the ability to express a conception, mental activity, and indicate its mental compass] and Japheth [the feeling and imagination which is sensitive to beauty] also accurately characterize the prominent features of their respective national descendants.
History clearly demonstrates, that in contrast to the nations generally characterized by intellectual achievements and noble sentiments [ie. Shem and Japheth], this 'hot sensuality' is the prominent feature of the Hamitic race, or as VD put it "the genetic predisposition towards aggressive behavior [contrasted to] the rest of the population."
I'll go a step farther than Instapundit: police should not have any rights or powers that a normal citizen does not have. You can carry your neighbor's curbside trash away if you want to. The difference between you and the garbageman is that the garbageman is paid to do it. Being a cop should be the same way.
-Wyrd
No disagreements here, very few blacks were or have been exposed like MLK, Malcolm X, Louis Farrakhan, and others now dead or marginalized as propaganda tropes were to "the men beyond the curtain". Who were their "fairweather friends".
-Will Best, I couldn't agree more, those of the deformed amygdalas will engage in an orgy of violence against the rest of us, egged on by those of the deformed frontal lobes and under-developed mirror neurons.
And now, of course, the pictures are coming out which show Michael Brown was six foot four, three hundred pounds, and physically imposing enough to make any ordinary cop fear for his life.
The media had to go back to the age of ten or so to find a 'cute' picture for him, all the rest have him flashing Bloods gang signs.
How about this, Instapundit.
Part time government which convenes never, unless there is a pressing issue to take care of, and they get paid $12 per diem with no benefits. Cops will make minimum wage and will get one bullet which must be kept in their shirt pocket.
This morning's political analyst on the San Francisco area's #1 news radio station was discussing the Ferguson issues.
His talking points:
......"Of COURSE black people are not genetically more prone to breaking the law, so there is inherently something racist in our culture to explain why blacks are 3x more likely to be arrested than whites."
He then goes on to address the majority of his commentary on the militarization of the police in Ferguson and other areas. I've heard this guy numerous times on this station, he is their go to guy for political commentary. His comments on this particular issue told me that he is black, as he related a personal story that revealed this fact. Based on his excellent grammar and pronunciation I had no idea until today.
The media had to go back to the age of ten or so to find a 'cute' picture for him, all the rest have him flashing Bloods gang signs.
I was wrong! I predicted they would use photos of him as a 12 year old.
I take it you are joking?
The average white person is willing to accept police brutality and militarization as long as it is directed at Central Americans and Blacks because, whether they'll admit it or not, deep down they know that without them the minority on white crime rates would be far higher than they are now. This is why dealing with the race issue is a perquisite to dealing with the police state issue.
We could also take it the other way - any weapons supplied to police also have to be supplied to citizens who ask for them. See how eager they are then for shiny new toys. And yes, a tank is a weapon, officer. :)
In theory, second amendment is for defense against an overbearing government. This should mean if the government has tanks, citizens are allowed anti-tank weapons. Jets? SAMs for citizens. Our government is supposed to live in fear of overstepping the bounds for the actions the citizens will take - it's been a while since that's been true.
Here's the gang sign pictures, so you can see him big and heavy.
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/08/breaking-michael-brown-was-a-local-gangster-seen-flashing-gang-signs/
The round-faced innocent picture I saw listed an age of ten, I haven't found it again yet.
In retrospect, I didn't make my point too clear. Sometimes stereotypes are sadly correct. it would be nice if we could all be genetic sports and special snowflakes, but that's not the way a bell curve works.
I personally am still waiting for the toxicology report and the gunshot report, which should fairly conclusively state if a shot was fired inside the car during the struggle.
And yes, a tank is a weapon, officer. :)
True, but I have not seen or heard of any tanks (like the M-48, or the Abrams M1 etc) being supplied to cops anywhere.
All I have seen is very uninformed media talk of "tanks" and concluded that they wouldn't know their asses from a hole in the ground.
I suggest an addition to the t-shirt and bumper sticker arsenal: "Mokitas, baby!"
"it's ridiculous that some liberals have been feigning to be ignorant of libertarians protesting the militiarization of the badge gang. "
While toting copies of Civil Disobedience. The force of doublethink is strong in these.
Cops take an Oath, citizens do not. Cops perform a service, like a servant does. An employee is servant to the Employer. Why should a man be less than his servant? If inequality be the mantra, it's the servant who holds less.
"Of course we do. This is English. Our word for it is now "mokita," because that's how we roll."
heheeheh... that's a cute word. We'll take it. Thanks.
"Not because they're poor, not because the Man is keeping them down, not because of slavery, but because blacks are, on average, less intelligent, possess shorter time preferences, and are much more likely to have a genetic predisposition towards aggressive behavior than the rest of the population."
Yet this genetic and cultural predisposition does not preclude them from chosing to not engage in this behavior. They still have a choice, and are still accountable for their actions.
IIRC, any citizen can buy an MRAP. No one really has a use for one, though. Shitty gas mileage.
"Third, I endorse Instapundit's suggestion: "A simple rule would be to provide that police can have only weapons that a civilian could lawfully possess, since they’re civilians themselves."
I disagree completely... as for the most part... this is not far from the rule that is in force already. Yes... they have full auto weapons but that is not that big a deal... and citizens can have them as well if you get a classIII.
No... the solution is simply to disarm them of all lethal weapons.
the M-48, or the Abrams M1
Yes, I mostly meant it in humor, but Google's Pics aren't that reassuring. "But it's not a tank, it's an armored assault vehicle, officer!"
I came across an interesting post at , The Blaze about a book, talking about the symbolism of guns, and the fact that gun laws emasculate the law abiding, making them weak and dependent on the police. Young men see this, and want to be "strong" so they gravitate toward the tools of power, largely held by gang-bangers. The gun-control laws are thus sending the exactly wrong message to young men in largely fatherless "families". Interesting observation by a former gang member.
Actually, most of them are Armored Personnel Vehicles or equivalent. However, one is a National Guard tank, and might be an M48 from the look of it, while at least two of them are complete fiction.
The whole thread was worth it just to see Nate type "heheeheh" and imagine him giggling....
Good point, Salt. Their authority derives from a mandate of the masses, not some farcical aquatic ceremony. Or whatever passes for transference of authority in the States these days.
Cops carrying pick ax handles and mounted on horses would seem to be a very effective deterrent to chimp out episodes of this nature.
If every pair of Air Jordans or every case of Michalob pilfered from a looted store meant that the offending vibrant got chased down by a wild eyed Stallion then clubbed in the head by a hickory wielding midwit civil servant, they would soon learn to stay far away from any business which demonstrated a single cracked window panel.
Non militarized pick ax handles would do just fine.
Full auto small arms aren't nearly as effective in an engagement as most people think. Muzzle rise from a mult-round burst reduces accuracy. What matters is when the sights are aligned with center mass when the firing pin strikes the primer. Two to three rounds as fast as a shooter can pull the trigger are just as effective, and saves on ammo and stray rounds.
BTW very slightly ObTopic: http://fredoneverything.net/Ferguson.shtml
FergusonPoliceTargetAJPress
Vox: "the legal right of the citizenry to film the police"
Know Your Rights When Taking Photos and Making Video and Audio Recordings
I don't think they are too sincere, you see lots of militarized police porn featured in the UK press, a socialist utopia cleansed of "gun culture". Liberals love unionized government employees with unlimited power. The conflict with the racial identity politics only arises because they they weren't able to dictate that only whites can be crushed by government shock troops.
Wyrd,
That's why I said "if." I've got no problem with anyone who doesn't have a problem with me. Which, unfortunately, means I have a problem with many people in many races, including my own. If you hate me because I'm white, then the feeling is mutual: I hate you because I'm white.
OT but race related, anyone see Roissy's post about that raging slut? That made me throw up in my mouth.
Third, I endorse Instapundit's suggestion: "A simple rule would be to provide that police can have only weapons that a civilian could lawfully possess, since they’re civilians themselves." ~Vox
Since you stated gun control doesn't work, and by definition criminals don't follow the law, this guarantees that criminals will outgun the police. This happened to my father in the 80's with the black panthers. The race issue had to be dealt with first before any legal band aids are thrown on the issue
IIRC, any citizen can buy an MRAP. No one really has a use for one, though. Shitty gas mileage.
I'd rather have a Pinzgauer.
According to one report:
The officer who shot Ferguson teen Michael Brown stopped Brown and another teen because they were walking in the street, not because of a robbery a few minutes earlier, Ferguson Police Chief Tom Jackson said Friday afternoon.
They were apparently blocking traffic ... I wonder what the tox report will show.
Since you stated gun control doesn't work, and by definition criminals don't follow the law, this guarantees that criminals will outgun the police.
Then you ought to be able to provide a bunch of examples of the cops being outgunned, since these are new weapons and the cops didn't have them before.
Honestly I'm not anti-cop. The truth is they do a crappy job day in and day out. They only run into two kinds of people. Criminals and other cops. Well they do meet corpses they do that a lot. But the fact is they quickly develop an us/ them view of the world because that is the only world they live in.
Fine so far as it goes. Most of them are decent enough guys.
The problem is when you give someone a hammer every problem looks like a nail.
The other problem is the left wants to sic them on us. If you ever scan lefty fora it that becomes clear very quickly. Do it some time...pretend you are a lefty and raise the topic of "the Next American Civil War," on one of them. The comments you will get are pretty consistent. "Interesting idea in theory but in the real world every cop within a hundred miles will stomp it out in twenty minutes."
Nate: English has been mugging other languages in dark linguistic alleys and stealing their words since forever, pretty much, as any language belonging to a dynamic people expanding their understanding of the world should. And every time someone declares it "Cultural Appropriation," we feel schadenfreude :-).
I like the word. Fills a niche.
> Since you stated gun control doesn't work, and by definition criminals don't follow the law, this guarantees that criminals will outgun the police.
And the problem with this is?
The average white person is willing to accept police brutality and militarization as long as it is directed at Central Americans and Blacks because, whether they'll admit it or not, deep down they know that without them the minority on white crime rates would be far higher than they are now. This is why dealing with the race issue is a perquisite to dealing with the police state issue.
And yet the average white person has sat back and watched as mass immigration has made blacks and hispanics roughly one-third of our population and growing. Wouldn't we be a whole lot better off with both the quantity and composition of 1965's demographics?
Yet as our population has exploded from 200 million to 320 million since 1970, due overwhelmingly to immigration, the media never links this to the increasing militarization of the police. Though they do seem to believe all the good in America is a result of it.
Then you ought to be able to provide a bunch of examples of the cops being outgunned, since these are new weapons and the cops didn't have them before.
~Giraffe
I'm speaking of a future where the law Vox supports is passed, not of the present.
@James Dixon
Not all citizens wish to carry a gun. Those citizens will be be assaulted/killed, etc. Then the populace will demand the law be revoked and it will be. The issue is race. I just googled the origin of the swat team, and it was developed in response to the Black Panthers in L.A
We don't need "mokita". English has a much larger vocabulary than most other languages already. We've always had the idea of "mokita", we just use two words to say it. "Forbidden truths" or "Unspoken understanding". And using two words allows us to shape the meaning more subtly than having a single, all-purpose word. A forbidden truth is one we speak at risk of punishment whereas an unspoken understanding is a matter of being polite, etc, etc.
Nate August 15, 2014 3:12 PM
But we have no word for this.
not a single word, but we've got the concept:
'Political Correctness'.
Just_Michael August 15, 2014 4:25 PM
got chased down by a wild eyed Stallion then clubbed in the head by a hickory wielding midwit civil servant
why are you delegating this to civil 'servants'?
every time i watch looting videos i think to myself that what would really fix this stupid shit is if the store owner and a couple of employees were giving complimentary injections of Vitamin Lead with every Five Finger Discount.
you back these asshole prosecutors off of charging people for defending property and looting riots will come to a near total stop toot suite.
remember how you used to read / hear about / see in film teenage boys get an ass full of rock salt for trespassing or petty theft?
and the most anybody did when they heard the story was laugh?
yeah, you try that in modern America and see how fast you wind up in jail.
Cheddarman: I don't know if 4G war is the correct model here. We're talking about a bunch of dumb brutes, not the Viet Cong. They were pretty well kept in line down South by Jim Crow. Without Federal intervention, they'd still be using "Colored" bathrooms.
"Not all citizens wish to carry a gun. Those citizens will be be assaulted/killed, etc. Then the populace will demand the law be revoked and it will be."
Your logic is weak.
Currently unarmed populace are currently assaulted and killed by armed criminals. These criminals have rarely used weapons currently prohibited to most citizens, even when they were more widely/legally available. (look up criminal uses of fully automatic, short barreled, or suppressed weapons, exists, but not very prevalent over the last 100 years or so)
Occasionally some of them have demanded more restrictions on firearms sales, but the trend has been in the other direction, and overall gun crime is down.
Arming the citizenry on par with the police *to keep them in check* will not necessarily increase criminal use of these weapons by criminals against unarmed citizens.
I find that the more intellugent blacks ive known tend to have the same poor understanding of the abstract and problems rhinking logically as the lower class white people ive known. TTheres something lacking and they have trouble with certain concepts. I find myself shutting up at a certain point in the conversation.
This coupled with the fast rise in anger.and anggression whwn they realize they dont understand and become defensive creates a hopeless situation.
In other news, typing on my phone is. Not something im good at.
bob - complimentary injections of Vitamin Lead with every Five Finger Discount.
"Complimentary Vitamin Pb injections". I like that.
> Not all citizens wish to carry a gun. Those citizens will be be assaulted/killed, etc.
And the problem with this is?
> Then the populace will demand the law be revoked and it will be.
You think people who won't bother going armed have enough sense to connect a law and its consequences? What do you think they are, libertarians?
Cataline,
You say they only interact with cops and criminals. That's because if you're not a cop, to them, you're a criminal. They've gone from being servants to being rulers, and you better well like being ruled. Whether you're jaywalking, smoking a joint, or washing the blood off you're good murdering axe, you're below a cop, and you will be treated as such.
The issue is race. I just googled the origin of the swat team, and it was developed in response to the Black Panthers in L.A
Indeed. The Left has almost, but not quite, memory-holed the reason for the increased militarization of the U.S. police force is due to a great extent the domestic terrorist thugs they champion. The rest I attribute to fighting the armed gangs that supply the narcotics liberals can't seem to do without.
" In the USA, crime is a predominantly black problem. Not because they're poor, not because the Man is keeping them down, not because of slavery, but because blacks are, on average, less intelligent, possess shorter time preferences, and are much more likely to have a genetic predisposition towards aggressive behavior than the rest of the population."
The Holy Trinity of Mokita right there. Which is why it will never get better.
Considering that the looters and Molotov cocktail throwers didn't get sniped, the Ferguson cops already used a good deal of restraint in the shooting's aftermath.
Bob K. Mando: As suburbia nears agricultural land, some town boys decide that croplands are just the place to go off roading. Thirty years ago I was told by a Ventura County (NW of Los Angeles) Sheriff that they would not investigate too diligently if any such boy got shot. I don't know if that's still the case.
Mokita translates into English as Crimespeak.
The prog that will denounce racism one moment will note the propensity for the Irish to be hot tempered or Italians to have machismo the next.
Antonyms to Mokita is Voxspeak, Natespeak, Ilkspeak
We don't need "mokita". English has a much larger vocabulary than most other languages already.
It really does. Like most languages, it has its shortcomings. But when you start to compare it to other languages, it's actually pretty amazing how many words we have. English has a huge vocabulary. The average educated English speaker has a larger vocabulary than the entirety of the Latin language, for example. By a factor of 2-4.
Of course, the reason the English language is so huge is because we regularly steal useful words like "mokita." :D
Sure, you can say it in two words. But sometimes one word is useful.
Not all citizens wish to carry a gun.
Then they aren't citizens, they are subjects.
> Not all citizens wish to carry a gun. Those citizens will be be assaulted/killed, etc.
And the problem with this is?
> Then the populace will demand the law be revoked and it will be.
You think people who won't bother going armed have enough sense to connect a law and its consequences? What do you think they are, libertarians?
~James Dixon
The elderly are very content to vote in a lot of police to protect rather than carrying a gun. They will easily out vote other segments of society. You are correct, it isn't about sense. It is about grandma.grandpa being killed and the emotional reaction (which translates into more votes) being MOR POLICE, MOR MONEY, MOR WEAPONS
...Or for Greeks to be double-tongued. Hence the birth and death of democracy.
Amphoteroglossic, baby.
urrently unarmed populace are currently assaulted and killed by armed criminals. These criminals have rarely used weapons currently prohibited to most citizens, even when they were more widely/legally available. (look up criminal uses of fully automatic, short barreled, or suppressed weapons, exists, but not very prevalent over the last 100 years or so)
~Patrick Kelly
You are talking rural, I am talking about the cities. NYC police were not issued semi automatics till 1994. Do you really think criminals were using revolvers in 1993? We all know a bureaucracy moves slower then individuals so the police will be playing catch up. The cities also have plenty of non-citizens (tourists). I doubt they will still visit a place where the citizens, not the police defend them.
"Based on his excellent grammar and pronunciation I had no idea until today." - JCclimber
*rolls eyes* But can he read a teleprompter?
It was not so long ago when tall shiny ones, and little furry ones, and really young ones, worked it out. Your species is like 6000 years old, in charge, and full of it. Always like this, all bright and shiny, and using hate as logic to go to War.
Colors? IQ? That is a lazy way to pretend to have visions.
Try it for once. Go kill something, really. And you all wonder why when what you are dancing around comes to correct, your pride and explanations become recycled noise.
Show ten good men, and you could slow this down. Otherwise, piss off.
Then they aren't citizens, they are subjects.
~Leonidas
Throughout human history women have been less proficient at arms...
I guess you are correct. Women are generally subject to a dominant entity, be it a man or the government.
> The elderly are very content to vote in a lot of police to protect rather than carrying a gun. They will easily out vote other segments of society.
The elderly won't go out to vote in such a climate. And you're ignoring the significant percentage of elderly who live in gate retirement communities.
> Throughout human history women have been less proficient at arms...
As a class? Yes. Individually? Phoebe Anne Oakley Mozee could have demonstrated otherwise.
Yes James, and those gates are guarded by the police, not Vietnam vets with sniper rifles. Look I'm in NH, 90+ white surrounded by 90+ white VT and ME. Our crime rate is low so there is no excuse to increase the police budget and hence there is very little militarization of the police. It's a race issue plain and simple. culture>law
To make it even easier. No blacks in L.A means no riots in L.A means no swat team. Necessity is the mother of invention
"Look I'm in NH, 90+ white surrounded by 90+ white VT and ME. Our crime rate is low so there is no excuse to increase the police budget and hence there is very little militarization of the police."
Tell me more of this NH you speak of...
Tell me more of this NH you speak of...
http://freestateproject.org
times like these the utter poverty of the english language is exposed. We have words that mean the same thing as other words. We have words that sound the same as other words but do not mean the same things. We have multiple definitions for almost all of our words.
But we have no word for this.
This concept in English is usually called "polite fiction." It's a phrase that's fun to say and even sounds a little witty. No need to steal a goofy sounding word from the language of Pygmy People Eaters.
"It was not so long ago when tall shiny ones, and little furry ones, and really young ones, worked it out. Your species is like 6000 years old, in charge, and full of it. Always like this, all bright and shiny, and using hate as logic to go to War."
Trying to remember which Planet of the Apes this is from.
"No... the solution is simply to disarm them of all lethal weapons."
My go to response to people who bring up gun control is, " Sure, police first."
" . . .criminals will outgun the police."
I suggest that this is an oxymoron.
http://www.nhliberty.org/volunteer
Anyone can help out online doing bill review if you have a little free time.
'Third, I endorse Instapundit's suggestion: "A simple rule would be to provide that police can have only weapons that a civilian could lawfully possess, since they’re civilians themselves."'
No.
The entire reason the police were held so long at bay during the North Hollywood robbery was that illegally obtained and employed long arms and body armor allowed the suspects to keep the pd heads down down and down. It wasn't until pd actually brought rifles to the scene that they managed to put down the perps.
I certainly don't agree that police should be militarized - and I also know for a fact that they've outgrown their civil britches in many respects (whatever happened to just being calm, tactful and simply nice to people during a traffic stop?) but it's plainly idiotic to disarm them below the level or your local gangbanger with an AK47 or a cut-down bolt-action rifle - which are both typical weapons down here in the southland.
disarm them of all lethal weapons
DISARM THEM OF ALL LETHAL WEAPONS. Period.
Cut the number of cops and pay them very little. Let them "serve".
Of course, they're really just the Praetorian Guard for the Corps and their Politicos.
And don't forget they have a rolling Info File on you and your life in their robocop cars.
Because Servants.
Screw that. Demilitarize after the third-world shit-holes have been emptied, or the rest of us are allowed to arm up and legally defend ourselves. At this point, just as the war is about to break here at home, with most such assets in our hands, I'm not so sure I want to give them up. Negotiating with the "citizens" of Ferguson is like negotiating with Somali warlords. Screw that. That governor will be remembered for what he is. They were already given a president who has severely damaged the US. Now they get to say who can police them in a case by case basis? No, this isn't over.
neal August 15, 2014 5:53 PM
Try it for once. Go kill something, really.
uhhh, i regularly got assigned the job of killing the sickly animals around the farm.
i've helped killing and boiling chickens. i've helped butcher hogs. i've stripped frogs for their legs. i've shot birds, squirrels, groundhogs, rabbits ... probably more.
fish don't even count.
what the hell do you think your point is?
i don't particularly enjoy killing things. and it's probably best for everyone if i don't develop a taste for it.
neal August 15, 2014 5:53 PM
Show ten good men, and you could slow this down. Otherwise, piss off.
you mean like in the Rodney King riots when the whites and asians barricaded their neighborhoods, carried firearms and made sure the black mobs didn't spread?
yeah, the problem in Ferguson is that it's blacks rioting in black neighborhoods.
good luck finding "ten good men".
Discard August 15, 2014 5:36 PM
I don't know if that's still the case.
you need to read up on Victor Davis Hanson's slice of life stories from rural Cali.
you've got illegals stealing stuff off of farms all over the place. if the farmer tries to investigate a noise in the night he's liable to get killed.
if he shoots a perp, he's liable to get prosecuted.
Krul August 15, 2014 5:29 PM
"Complimentary Vitamin Pb injections". I like that.
i'm playing off of all the drug stores offering flu shots.
your local gangbanger with an AK47 or a cut-down bolt-action rifle - which are both typical weapons down here in the southland
People can begin to take responsibility for themselves and do their duty again.
Your philosophy has been tried and is no longer acceptable.
The contract is long broken.
> Yes James, and those gates are guarded by the police...
Nope. They're usually private security guards.
you know, now that i think on this, i would love to be able to patronize an establishment which had a billboard advertising "Complimentary Vitamin Lead injections with every Five Finger Discount".
i wouldn't even particularly care what they were actually selling.
"Cheddarman: I don't know if 4G war is the correct model here. We're talking about a bunch of dumb brutes, not the Viet Cong. They were pretty well kept in line down South by Jim Crow. Without Federal intervention, they'd still be using "Colored" bathrooms. " - Discard
Discard,
I am helping to do some minor edits on a book on 4th generation war. According to the author, 4th gen war can occur in U.S. cities between the State i.e. the police and non-state actors, in this case, the rioters. FYI, you will hear more about this in the near future.
respectfully,
cheddarman
"They're usually private security guards."
And for a very simple reason: it turns out that if you have the police patrol your gated community the majority of people they cite and arrest are . . . residents of the community.
Sooner or later the residents, who begged them to arrive, beg them to depart.
Jim said it best: something to the effect of 'The problem with libertarians is that they try to stay left on social issues and right on economic issues. If you give financially irresponsible parasites every freedom that you give responsible citizens - as the libertarians want - you end up with a nanny state that isn't good for anyone'.
No, I think we will leave the cops with their artillery and tanks. In addition to America's scum of the earth...it seems the libertarians want to take pot shots at the cops too. I like the idea of them being uncomfortable with the weaponisation of the police forces. The libertarians created the need for it and they can damned well suck it.
Glen Filthie August 15, 2014 6:51 PM
The libertarians created the need for it and they can damned well suck it.
thus spaketh a Loyalist. as short sighted and stupid as ever.
in 1920, the US passed prohibition, making alcohol illegal and rendering the manufacture, transportation and selling of it highly profitable enterprises which could ONLY be administered by gangs BECAUSE it was illegal.
already being outside the law, the gangs took up enforcing their own contracts and agreements via the only means open to them, through superior violence to other gangs.
it took less than 15 years for the cause of the rampant violence to get rubbed in the populations face before they wised up and repealed prohibition in 1933.
and, lo and behold, the alcohol gang related ultra-violence almost completely disappeared.
until, of course, the Federal .gov decided to start making large classes of drugs 'illegal' via regulation and disbursements to states conditioned on the states changing their laws.
and now we, ONCE AGAIN, have violent gangs dedicated to manufacturing, transporting and selling artificially illegalized 'drugs'.
and, ONCE AGAIN, we have assholes like Glen advocating that arms be confiscated from the general citizenry and that the police be up-armed and -armored due to the 'necessity' of dealing with ... a completely artificial problem that we absolutely know the solution too.
a solution that is only ~80 years old.
"The libertarians created the need for it and they can damned well suck it."
Really? Where have libertarians been in charge with enough power or authority to change anything to cause this? I don't see them running any governments around here...... just republicrats......
You've already established your my enemy (you support people hunting down and killing me an those I care about) so just FOAD already.............murderous evil scum....really....
Does Josh have a satisfactory definition of "black" yet? What about "white"?
The Daily Beast claims that Ferguson Police have a history.
Cheddarman: I do hope to hear more about the potential for 4G war in U.S. cities in the near future. I conditionally defer to your expertise in the matter. Still, I'd much rather go 4G with Blacks than Vietnamese.
Uh-oh, things just real all up in here. It's like the Roundheads versus the Cavaliers all over again.
OT: Left-McCarthyism alert.
Latest victim: Gavin McInnes:
http://www.adweek.com/news/advertising-branding/rooster-cco-gavin-mcinnes-asked-take-leave-absence-159536
And yet the average white person has sat back and watched as mass immigration has made blacks and hispanics roughly one-third of our population and growing. Wouldn't we be a whole lot better off with both the quantity and composition of 1965's demographics?
I have a quibble about pinning blame on the 1965 Immigration Act. From what I understand, although it definitely gave us the Asian minority, immigration from the Western Hemisphere before 1965 was unlimited. Unlimited.
We would still have had the immivasion from Mexico and Central America, and if anything, it would have been worse without the 1965 Act.
Also, the birth rate crash all white countries had in the late 1960s and early 1970s by definition slowed family-based migration from those countries to a trickle, just as it will eventually for East Asian countries.
So correct me if I'm wrong. I would really like someone to explain how the 1965 Act worsened our demographics vis-a-vis Latinos.
The One: "The elderly are very content to vote in a lot of police to protect rather than carrying a gun."
Your Elderly May Vary
"In the Kivila language of the Trobriand Islands..."
I think he meant Kilivila. Also spelled or called Kiriwina. That's why it is a good idea to check Wikipedia before using it.
- Your friendly local ultraintelligence
Please help me, i think i am in love with Vox but he never would accept me :(
neal August 15, 2014 5:53 PM
It was not so long ago when tall shiny ones, and little furry ones, and really young ones, worked it out. Your species is like 6000 years old, in charge, and full of it. Always like this, all bright and shiny, and using hate as logic to go to War.
Colors? IQ? That is a lazy way to pretend to have visions.
Try it for once. Go kill something, really. And you all wonder why when what you are dancing around comes to correct, your pride and explanations become recycled noise.
Seek help, neal.
Baby steps. Have you tried writing him an old-fashioned letter? Enclose a lock of your hair.
The cure for makita is mucho majito.
Warms the tummy, loosens the tongue.
Corvinus,
"I have a quibble about pinning blame on the 1965 Immigration Act. From what I understand, although it definitely gave us the Asian minority, immigration from the Western Hemisphere before 1965 was unlimited. Unlimited."
No, it was not unlimited. My family had to have sponsors to come to the US. Immigration before 1965 was heavily restricted.
Idle Spectator August 15, 2014 10:04 PM
Baby steps. Have you tried writing him an old-fashioned letter? Enclose a lock of your hair.
You're a bad man. A very, very, bad man.
And all the while the politicians are trying to make things worse.
Bill Whittle gets introduced to the destruction of US educational standards by Dr. Pournelle:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFrYEV07p4I
Doom August 15, 2014 6:22 PM
Screw that. Demilitarize after the third-world shit-holes have been emptied, or the rest of us are allowed to arm up and legally defend ourselves. At this point, just as the war is about to break here at home, with most such assets in our hands, I'm not so sure I want to give them up. Negotiating with the "citizens" of Ferguson is like negotiating with Somali warlords.
It's interesting that you use that term, 'warlord'. Just the other day I was trying to imagine what the end result would be of all those military toys being stockpiled in all those police depts., once the economy starts to seriously go south, or eventually breaks up.
Discard,
You are right that we are not yet in a true 4th gen war in Missouri, but it could go that way if the police would continue with a militarized response and law and order would break down, and people would transfer their loyalty from the state to non state entities such as gangs, their racial group, the New Black Panthers, etc etc.
The way it was dealt with, though, was a good choice by whomever made it. De-escalate, regain the trust of the people in the governing institutions before they are permanently discredited.
@Rob Lee
Third, I endorse Instapundit's suggestion: "A simple rule would be to provide that police can have only weapons that a civilian could lawfully possess, since they’re civilians themselves."'
No.
Strange that your immediate and only interpretation of this was "We must disarm cops!" as opposed to "We need to do away with gun control laws that only target non-police."
This whole thread is upsetting me... i am feeling the itch to buy some more guns...time to jump over to gunbroker...
Bill Whittle gets introduced to the destruction of US educational standards by Dr. Pournelle:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFrYEV07p4I
Whittle is a passing good knight.
You're a bad man. A very, very, bad man.
Poetry? I think Vox likes poetry. He posted some recently. Try leaving some on his car.
This whole thread is upsetting me... i am feeling the itch to buy some more guns...time to jump over to gunbroker...
There's no shame in crying.
clk: I've been thinking about a Walther P-22. Pretty Little thing.
chedderman: Do you think that the Blacks in Ferguson have not already transferred their loyalty to their race or gangs, what have you?
Poetry? I think Vox likes poetry. He posted some recently. Try leaving some on his car.
Work a grouper in for instant results.
Vox, are you pals with Les Claypool of Primus fame?
"All I have seen is very uninformed media talk of "tanks" and concluded that they wouldn't know their asses from a hole in the ground."
No tanks, but there's an MRAP sitting in the parking lot of our county sheriff's department. No doubt it's in response to the increasing number of mines being laid along I-81 and US 460.
Looters wear their pants at half mast in honor of Patron Saint of Thugs:
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/08/16/ferguson-shooting-police-standoff/
Demilitarize after the third-world shit-holes have been emptied, or the rest of us are allowed to arm up and legally defend ourselves.
I have family in law-enforcement and from what I understand is that the predominant culture in police is that responsible citizens SHOULD be armed.
Then you couple that with the fear that absolute lunatics ARE armed... and with such incredibly tight gun control restrictions, the assumptions that if you have actually managed to obtain a gun, then you did it illegally, ergo you must be a psycho criminal.
I'm not convinced the problem needs to be solved at the police level before deregulation of arms happens. As long as the regulations keep getting tighter and tighter, people with guns are the lunatics.
"It's the Left that has been silently approving of the growing police state, not the libertarian Right."
Any speculation as to why that should be so?
For my own part, I suspect it's because the leftards regard Officer Friendly and his SWAT squad buddies as their own pet particular enforcers, the obedient armed goons who are gonna ram "Liberal" fascist statutes and regulations up the national dupa regardless of resistance from us unenlightened and reactionary full-employment-seeking chandala.
After all, if what they're seeking is a police state, they gotta want the police to be more impressively equipped than those tea party types, right?
Discard ...p22 is not bad but users have been reporting failure to feed issues .. theres a gen 1 and gen 2 . Make sure its a gen 2. IMHO the sr22 ruger is a better pistol in the same class. I had the s&w 22a for a while but sold it because it had poor reliability. Outside the p22/sr22 types the ruger 22/45 and mark III are flawlessly reliable pistols in 22lr that have long history of use and a large catalog of after market kits to improve performance ( like trigger groups which are the one area that ruger is not always best) ... but know this ... 22lr ammo is very scarce right now and when its is available has gone for $8.99 per 500 to $38 per 500 when you can find it .. still cheaper than centerfire ammo but not the low cost option all day plinking it used to be...
Me... i just got a bersa 380 cc thunder ppk clone... nice med size sa, easy tk carry i summr and very reliable and cost effective.... i am sure i will get hit with 380 too small here and should have gotten a 45 ( which i have but its too hard to carry) .. but the cc 380 is an aboslute dream to shot.
> Outside the p22/sr22 types the ruger 22/45 and mark III are flawlessly reliable pistols in 22lr
I have a Ruger Mark II. They're nice. And as noted, ultra-reliable.
I often rely on my PPK/s as a carry piece, using CORBON 90gr +P HJP exclusively. Wonderful lil darling it is.
I have two 22/45s. Thousands of rounds, very reliable. Much more accurate than the average shooter will be able to use. Doubleplusgood.
@ cheddarman
The way it was dealt with, though, was a good choice by whomever made it. De-escalate, regain the trust of the people in the governing institutions before they are permanently discredited.
Zerohedge reports police have been told to stand down while thugs loot and burn.
So de-escalation ala 4gw is code for capitulation?
Constitutionalists complain about police not respecting property rights. How about not protecting property rights or letting individuals do it themselves?
How does that restore trust in governing institutions?
The problem isn't cops per se, it's militarized cops and their attitudes towards us in general.
Well *this particular problem*--black communities rioting after police action--has to do with white cops in black neighborhoods. Change that particular fact and we are back to just regular police violence. A step up, at least.
Then you couple that with the fear that absolute lunatics ARE armed...
Are we speaking of the armed, pensioned, net-consumer government workers here or the "criminals"?
OMG! It's sooo very confusing at times.
Someone over at Steve Sailer's blog has coined the perfect name for Brown:
Saint Bully.
"Vox, are you pals with Les Claypool of Primus fame?"
Oh don't be silly. Primus Sucks.
"So de-escalation ala 4gw is code for capitulation?"
That's the impression I'm getting.
Zerohedge reports police have been told to stand down while thugs loot and burn.
So de-escalation ala 4gw is code for capitulation?
This particular action is amusing.
Will it really help ensure that blacks and minorities continue to vote Democtratic?
How will whites and property owners there vote after this?
I recall reading in Soldier of Fortune magazine back in '92 or 93 about the rather alarming rate of increase in the use of SWAT. Hell I might even have that magazine laying around. If you've lost SoF magazine.....
"How will whites and property owners there vote after this?"
If only it were that simple. What we'll see instead of companies choosing not to open businesses in these neighborhoods because they're too high risk are land development loans and grants for developing in "underserved urban communities" or whatever euphemism of the day is preferred. Sometimes these come directly from government, and sometimes they're a result of government pressuring banks into making decisions they would never make on their own.
The cost of this looting will ultimately be paid by taxpayers, which does not include most of the people of Ferguson.
Awesome.
"Strange that your immediate and only interpretation of this was "We must disarm cops!" as opposed to "We need to do away with gun control laws that only target non-police."
WHY IS THIS STRANGE?
I like my MK III 22/45; it is a great, accurate, and affordable pistol. The only downside, really, is that it has a magazine disconnect;however, that is nothing you can't take care of yourself, and not such a big deal on a range gun. It also all sorts of cool aftermarket mods for it - so you can pretend you're playing Fallout:NV.
HOWEVER: what a *pain* in the ass to field strip and take down. I remember the first time I did it. I was reading the directions in the manual that was telling me to bang on the gun with a non-marring rubber hammer. So, there I was beating on the gun with a rubber mallet thinking "really?" It was surreal. (As an aside - I did learn that non-marring hammers are actually pretty useful for gunsmith work, i.e., you can use it to bang off the the side plate of your Smith&Wesson K Frame or the stock of your Saiga, but at the time it just seemed wrong).
The worst part of reassembling it was getting that mainspring housing/strut to locked in and go through the top of the slide was hell. It somehow got jammed in wrong and wouldn't go all the way through and I had to stick a pencil down the hole to bang it out. I am have pretty decent mechanical aptitude for a right brained guy, but, man, that day I was close to heading down to the gunsmith. But, being a cheap bastard, I kept at it and finally got it together. I breathed a hearty sigh of release I did a function test and everything locked up right and went click.
Moral of the story: just shoot it and clean the barrel/chamber. Keeps on ticking.
The problem isn't cops per se, it's militarized cops and their attitudes towards us in general.
Or maybe the problem is that cops, being government employees, are prone to the same corruption that all government employees are prone to. Consider Rio Arriba County (New Mexico) Sheriff Thomas Rodella. He and his son were recently arrested for pistol whipping some guy they stopped while they were wearing street clothes. Not sure the details of the pistol whipping, but Rodella's career illustrates the problem we have telling the mokita about bad cops.
From MSN: As a state police officer, Rodella was disciplined for marijuana use, improper use of a weapon, falsifying official reports, abusing sick leave and using his position for personal gain. He also was suspended for 30 days for firing at a deer decoy that game officers had set up to catch poachers.
Rodella served in the state police from 1982 until retiring in 1995 on a disability pension.
All that and he's still allowed to game the system and retire with a fake disability. How do I know it's fake? 19 years later he's a sheriff. Clearly he wasn't disabled enough to keep him away from police work. But his career of malfeasance didn't end in 1995.
I'm not sure what he did between 95 and 2005, but in 2005 then Governor Bill Richardson (D) appointed Rodella as a magistrate only to pressure Rodella to resign months later after he helped get a family friend out of jail for DUI. That didn't end his career on the bench though.
"Rodella was elected sheriff in 2010, despite having been ousted as a magistrate judge by the state Supreme Court two years earlier for misconduct. The court barred him from running again for judicial office which implies he somehow became a magistrate again.
His wife is a long-time Democrat state legislator.
Rodella is observably less trustworthy and law abiding than the average person, yet he has been continually returned to power in the justice system. His stint as sheriff included not only the incident he was arrested for, but also allegations his deputies took "donations" to a charity in lieu of traffic tickets. If we can't flush people like Rodella out of the system early in their careers, we certainly shouldn't let them have weapons. I agree with Nate. Disarm them. If an armed response is necessary, they can convene a posse of citizens.
"...breathed a hearty sigh of release I did a function test and everything locked up right and went click. "
Then my wife screamed from the door leading down to my secret 1911guy cave, "what the hell are you doing down there?! You better not be watching porn!"
I third the 22/45. My favorite is the target model, fluted barrel, and lighted sights. But it truly is a PITA to reassemble. I used this rig for my CCL range, needing 18 into the target in 25 shots. (Not hard at all for any experienced shooter of course.) I knew the instructor so decided to have some fun. I pulled off 10, dropped the mag, threw in the second, then pulled off 8 more, all as fast as I could pull the trigger, then hit the safety and holstered. (Easy to keep a .22 on target of course.) He was sharp and counting, raised his eyebrows, and told me I had 7 more shots. I told him I didn't need them, didn't want to waste good ammo, and that he'd find 18 into center mass. He pulled the target and did, talked about my ancestors in somewhat derogatory terms, and then started laughing. The range is a good place to spend time.
Are we speaking of the armed, pensioned, net-consumer government workers here or the "criminals"?
I was talking about ACTUAL criminals that go around the law to get arms they have no business having (proscribed by felony and probation laws).
The tighter regulations are, the harder it is for law abiding citizens to obtain firearms. The harder it is for law abiding citizens to obtain firearms, the fewer law abiding citizens will have firearms.
If less law abiding citizens are carrying firearms while criminals can obtain them in whatever illicit way they wish (granted, law abiding citizens could do that too, but they won't because... well... then they wouldn't be law abiding...)
To a cop, if someone went around the law to obtain a firearm, then they are dangerous criminals who would like to kill cops. We could go with arming cops to the teeth is "self-defense" against cop-killers who want them dead... and with a society where criminals are increasingly more armed than responsible citizens and where animosity towards cops is practically tangible, I have a hard time casting ALL the blame on fearful cops.
While as public servants, there is an expectation of higher responsibility, I can't really fault them for being human.
I'm in a position of being a concerned citizen who recognizes police corruption and abuse of power on all levels of government while having very close family members in law enforcement. I can't sit here and believe all cops are knights in shining armor, good men protecting me from those who would violate my rights... but I also can't say there isn't some real concern for unarmed cops.
I know a cop who hadn't been issued a gun yet and was only armed with a taser. This cop was sent to a call with a bunch of rowdy Mexicans - all illegally carrying firearms - who were celebrating some Mexican holiday in the way Mexicans celebrate holidays. When one of them came at him with his gun waving in the air, he had to use his taser. While this is a harmless thing here, that cop could have been killed without any protection if this situation had escalated. And yes - that district does routinely send out groups of cops with tasers only and no guns.
I would like to see smaller police forces in general, more private citizens carrying, and a return to a positive look on citizen arrests.
clk: Thanks for the word on the first and second generations of the Walther P-22. I'll look at the Ruger sr22 as well.
If we didn't have so much vibrancy, we wouldn't have such problems. Over-armed police are the symptom, not the disease.
I will have my Mokita with a sprig of spearmint for refreshing truth!
"In the USA, crime is a predominantly black problem. Not because they're poor, not because the Man is keeping them down, not because of slavery, but because blacks are, on average, less intelligent, possess shorter time preferences, and are much more likely to have a genetic predisposition towards aggressive behavior than the rest of the population."
The 50th anniversary of the Civil Rights Act was just a month ago. It was basically a gift to blacks. It abolished racial segregation and discrimination in America once and for all.
After 50 years, can anyone honestly say that the CRA did society any good? Does anyone here really think that it should have been passed at all?
"Just shoot it ...".... agree.. i just spray some clp breakfree, run a few patches and done.
Lets get real. Diversity is not going away. It will only become GREATER. There is no will among the elite to enforce borders, there are about 5.7 billion people in the world in countries poorer than Mexico, and our elites anyway are being pushed aside by new Black and Hispanic and Muslim elites. In the US and in Europe. For example, in Minneapolis, Jeannette Kahn (Kahnnnnnn!!!!!!!!) lost her primary to the Somali refugee representative that she was instrumental in moving to the US. Hahahahaha!
Jerry Brown is likely the last White governor of California, as George W. Bush was the last White US President.[Almost certainly Cory Booker or Andrian Fenty or Oprah will be the next President after Obama, assuming Michelle Obama and Valerie Jarrett don't run.]
We are in the process of importing about 10-30 million MS-13 and other gang members from Central America.
This is reality. It will not change. So the police MUST be militarized. For ordinary people not to be assaulted daily by guys like Michael Brown, all six foot four, 300 pounds, the police MUST be ultra militarized.
You can have the cops of Adam 12 only when you have the population of Adam 12 -- about 89% White. When Whites are functionally the minority (in Texas only 25% of people under age 18, Whites the minority of births last year nationally) then you MUST HAVE MILITARIZED POLICE.
The only other option is a nation of ethnic militias -- Whitey Bulgers and John Gottis providing protection from guys like Michael Brown in exchange for corrupt, brutal rule. The ME in other words. With ME style of living, ME incomes, ME science, ME technology, ME levels of violence. Every male armed, always ready to punish opposing tribes, collective punishment of peoples a given, raids on the innocent and helpless, and so on. Tribal life taken to the ultimate expression.
The only way to handle Diversity is through either extreme tribalism or Tito/Stalin type fascism. [You could argue that aside from state ownership Tito and Stalin fit right in with Mussolini and Franco and Peron. Cult of personality, a defacto royal court, absolute tyranny, etc.] Since Diversity is not going away -- our elites won't allow it and their replacements being Hispanic or Black or Muslim certainly won't -- we get a Fascist Police State.
Judge Dredd is not our future. He's our PRESENT. Dredd is the natural consequence of Diversity. Only Japan, South Korea, and perhaps New Zealand can escape his reign.
We are in the process of importing about 10-30 million MS-13 and other gang members from Central America.
This is reality. It will not change. So the police MUST be militarized. For ordinary people not to be assaulted daily by guys like Michael Brown, all six foot four, 300 pounds, the police MUST be ultra militarized.
But Whiskey, those are not the people the militarized cops will be used against. Did you not see the stand-down ordered?
The militarized cops are there to keep white folks in line.
Really Whiskey, you shouldn't comment when you've been drinking. I don't usually agree with you, but I do check your blog. This is just babbling.
rycamor,
If the cops don't play fair ball, they won't have a chance at keeping that equipment. If they do, they will be included in the new paradigm. They aren't great leaders, their leaders are political picks and not always the brightest, much as with the military currently. Rank and file will simply turn over chiefs who try to impose statism, in order to keep their own families safe.
Just count the number of cops and the number of civilians, look at the capacity and weakness of that equipment, and realize, they can't keep it unless they are allowed, and share it out. My only problem with militarized cops, at this point, and only if assuming mass problems are far off, is that they are very expensive to maintain. White elephants, taking money out of other programs cops could be doing. Though as politicized as many of them have become, this might be a good thing.
@Nate:
"Of course we do. This is English. Our word for it is now "mokita," because that's how we roll."
heheeheh... that's a cute word. We'll take it. Thanks.
"Borrow-word?" English doesn't "borrow" words, we follow them down back alleys, strike fast and true, and press-gang them into service. Capiche?
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