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Sunday, October 26, 2014

The impotence of the mind police

Sparklepunter (Chris Kluwe) and McRapey (John Scalzi) were chortling on Twitter the other day about how the "idiots" of #GamerGate had "no clue" what they were in for. And then, the pinkshirts pulled out the most fearsome artillery in the mainstream media....

That's right! A NEW YORK TIMES article! So what do you think about THAT, bitches?
(Um, wait, isn't that sexist?)
(SHIT! DELETE TWEET, DELETE TWEET DAMMIT!")
What do you think about that, evil gamerhate death threaters!
(That's better.)
That's right, a NEW YORK TIMES article entitled "Can Video Games Survive? The Disheartening GamerGate Campaign":
FOR more than five years, almost every word that I’ve written professionally has been about video games. I used to cover things like presidential campaigns and prison reform. But at some point, video games began to seem as consequential as those subjects, if not more so.

As they became more popular, more profitable and, most important, more powerful as a means of creative expression, video games started to feel to me like the Internet had in 1999: a technology on the verge of washing over our culture and reshaping it wholesale. Millions of people of all ages were playing games. These were boom times, and thanks not just to the mega-studios that produce things like the Call of Duty series, but to countless small, independent developers as well. Game design began to be taught in art schools alongside theater and sculpture. The interactive age had arrived, and video games were its most promising entertainment.
Translation: newbie journalist discovers games market, reviews some games, and now thinks he's an expert. Also believes that all the johnny-come-latelies attempting to make a buck off the huge and growing gamer population are indicative of more than trivial parasitism. Speaking as someone who has professionally lectured on game development and game design at a technical institute in Europe, those game design degrees from art schools are completely worthless. (Something I point out in my lectures, by the way.) They are almost always taught by people with virtually no experience in the industry and none professionally designing games.
And then came GamerGate. Over the past few weeks, as this inchoate but effective online movement has gathered momentum, I’ve begun to wonder if I’ve made a horrible mistake.
He did. He chose... poorly. He lined up with the pinkshirts against the players. If you are anti-GamerGate, you are no longer a gamer. Period. You may play games, but you are not a part of gaming culture. You have rejected it.
It’s the players who enjoy this culture, even as they distinguish themselves from the worst of the GamerGate trolls, who truly worry me. If all the recent experimentation and progress in video games — they’re in the permanent collection at MoMA now — turns out to be just a plaster on an ugly sore, then the medium’s long journey into the mainstream could be halted or even reversed.
Given what the mainstream presently represents - ideological domination by SJWs, thought-policing by pinkshirts, kowtowing before feminists and sexual freaks, and relentless parasitism - that sounds like a very desirable result indeed. Who gives the smallest fleck of a fly's shit about video games being "in the permanent collection at MoMA". So fucking what?
Other game designers, journalists and cultural critics have been threatened, or have faced hacking attempts on their online accounts, from email to social media to banking. Video games are unquestionably poorer than they were two months ago when this strange and disheartening series of events began. Talented people are quitting. If this continues, the medium I love could go backward into its roots as a pastime for children.
The game industry didn't need those no-talent ideological parasites before. It doesn't need them now. And the game industry could do a lot worse than go back to its roots, which happened to produce some of the legendary classic games that are just as fun to play today as they were two decades ago.
To me, these anti-intellectual players, who want games to be “just games” and want criticism of them to be devoid of things like political and social context, are almost as worrisome as the horrifying, and criminal, actions of the harassers.
Of course it is worrisome to him. Games that are just games have no need of parasites like him trying to make a living about talking about them. Given his endorsement of inept pinkshirt-games, he's clearly incapable of expressing an opinion about gameplay that any gamer will feel any burning need to know.
She’s [Leigh Alexander] more discouraged by her peers at websites that took two months to denounce GamerGate. Others have yet to make a statement at all. Some of the participants in the community of intelligent writers and designers who think and talk about video games in print and online, on websites and social media networks and podcasts, are being cowed into silence. In particular, if the large companies that make video games remain quiet, they risk allowing GamerGate to win the debate over whether diversity — of people, of ideas, of games themselves — has a place in their culture.
If the large companies that make video games are dumb enough to attack their core market, they will die. Intel and other companies are withdrawing their money from anti-GamerGate media companies like Gawker because they would like to continue selling their products to gamers. This is all the more true for the big game companies, which would also face an internal rebellion because many, if not most, of their employees are GamerGaters or at least sympathetic towards GamerGate.

(Let's not forget, Leigh Alexander is not only the person who declared games to be dead, but also told an indie game developer: "Be careful with me. I am a megaphone, I am much less kind than Rami and I won’t mind making an example out of you." For the record.)

@Nero commented that the people at one big company are "split right down the middle" on the issue. I've spoken to a few high-level people in the industry myself, including two "name-on-the-box" designers and one CEO, and they are definitely NOT anti-GamerGate. I would say that the most common opinion is one of indifference, mostly because the mainstream media's opinion is totally irrelevant to them. But they do recognize one thing. #GamerGate is the gamers. Anti-#GamerGate is not. And at the end of the day, If you are anti-#GamerGate, you are no longer a gamer. You may play games, but you are not a part of gaming culture. You have rejected it and you are no longer a part of it.

Anti-#GamerGate is #GamerHate.

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157 Comments:

Anonymous Shut up rabbit October 26, 2014 8:24 AM  

As I posted on a previous thread:
Oh look, what a surprise, Scalzoids new anti-#GG buddy is a self-serving hypocrite.

Anonymous Statists are so dull October 26, 2014 8:33 AM  

NYT is anti#GG. Fantastic! Maybe my gran's opinion on games will be swayed.

Anonymous Anonymous October 26, 2014 8:49 AM  

GamerGate is winning. He couldn't bring himself to directly assert that gamers are raciss misogynissts, not even in the roundabout way the NYT favors. And letting his SJW raeg leak out with that little comment about how GamerGate is a stupid name undermines the entire article's power even for the people who still take NYT content seriously.

It's very interesting that he describes the MSM partyline, but not in a way that grants much power to anti-GG. It's easily possible to read this article and come away thinking anti-GG's problem is "taking stray trolls too seriously" and not really come away thinking much of anything about gamers that one didn't already think.

I think it's pretty interesting that they are having to tone down the screeching about death threats and misogyny as this continues.

Blogger wrf3 October 26, 2014 8:53 AM  

VD wrote: "huge gamer population are indicative of more than trivial paratism."

paratism?

Anonymous VD October 26, 2014 8:54 AM  

I think it's pretty interesting that they are having to tone down the screeching about death threats and misogyny as this continues.

Mostly because it's hard to keep beating that drum as without producing ever more death threats and misogyny.

Anonymous VD October 26, 2014 8:55 AM  

paratism?

Corrected, thanks.

Anonymous Difster October 26, 2014 8:56 AM  

I posit that if even 10% of gamers were to raise their hackles against the pinkshirts, every single one of them would lose their jobs.

Tweets, Facebooking, doxxing and boycotting by 10% would leave pink shirted carcasses strewn about the journalistic landscape while their heads were raised on pikes, serving as an example for those that would come after.

Anonymous Quartermaster October 26, 2014 9:01 AM  

I've seen adds for the game design degrees and wondered about the faculty. Business faculty are pretty useless since the overwhelming majority of them haven't spent a day in a real business. It's no wonder our big business establishment is doing so poorly managing businesses. We're getting the same way in Engineering.

Anonymous DJF October 26, 2014 9:02 AM  

"""""then the medium’s long journey into the mainstream could be halted or even reversed.""""

And he gets to decide what the mainstream is. First he will want 'diversity" and demand games be made following his whims, until he declares it mainstream and then anything outside of his idea of mainstream is forbidden and his former calls for diversity are forgotten.

If he had stayed in political reporting he would support “liberal” democracy and anything outside of his idea of liberal democracy would be considered to be illegitimate no matter how many people vote for it. People voting against illegal aliens getting government benefits, this is not liberal democracy so the vote can be overthrown. The same with homosexual marriage, or any other “liberal” hobbyhorse.

Anonymous Difster October 26, 2014 9:08 AM  

GamerGateHaiku:

Unethical Slut
Gamers Against Media
The Pinkshirts Will Lose

Anonymous Eric Ashley October 26, 2014 9:17 AM  

"anti-intellectual" and 'intellectual' are some of those code words. Thoemas Sowell...not an intellectual (sorta, they have to let thru a few Righties or the word becomes too obvious); Vox ....not intellectual; W.....lacking in intellectual curiosity?? (that was one of the repeated slams on him); moi (an idea fountain).....don't be ridiculous, of course not an intellectual.

Blogger Professor James Moriarty October 26, 2014 9:19 AM  

Is there a list somewhere of Pink/SJW Compliant games? I don't play games, outside of Tabletop red box D&D. But my kids are starting to show interest in video games and I would love to have a reference.

Anonymous FUBAR Nation Ben October 26, 2014 9:21 AM  

How long do you give before Scalzi has a mental breakdown?

Blogger James Jones October 26, 2014 9:21 AM  

It never ceases to amaze me how a small group, who have managed to get their claws into the media, can vilify and hound the masses.

People are beginning to wake up to the fact that you cannot coexist with the SJ Whores. They will not stop. So we need to fight. We need to not give a crap what these muppets think of us. And lynch a few more, like the scummy Zoe Quinn, with burning torches and pitchforks.

Blogger Nate October 26, 2014 9:22 AM  

We have no idea what we're in for?

OH NOES! NOT THE NEW YORK TIMES!!!!

A rag written for old people that no one you know actually reads said something you do give a damn about!

How will you ever sleep at night?

Blogger James Jones October 26, 2014 9:24 AM  

How long before Scazi comes out of the closet and finally admits that he's a black, disabled lesbian?

Anonymous million dollar stock tip October 26, 2014 9:25 AM  

...go short on New York Times stock...

Anonymous Michael October 26, 2014 9:30 AM  

Waaah, we don't get to control the video game industry and force-feed our Marxist-feminist-LGBT agenda down everybody's throats and pat ourselves on the back! Gamers are fighting back! It's NOT FAIR! We're being VICTIMIZED!

Anonymous Fnord P October 26, 2014 9:34 AM  

Is there a list somewhere of Pink/SJW Compliant games?

At the moment there are very few. The resources to create AAA games are far beyond the current level of infiltration to subvert which is one of the main reasons for #GG in the first place.

The pro-SJW games are laughably shit and you are unlikely to run across them unless actively seeking them.

Just in case, apparently "Depression Quest" and "Go home" (?) or something are the worst offenders - everything (game play, technology, progress) sacrificed for the message. But at the moment it is individuals poisoning the field rather than anything they have actually produced (*laughs*).

Anonymous Casual October 26, 2014 9:40 AM  

"[Games] are in the permanent collection at MoMA now..."

Do they really think gamers actually give a fuck about that? It's not like a group of people declaring games as art suddenly makes the games better or more fun to play. Sorry, but we don't need the approval of some outside authority to know what we enjoy.

And besides, gamers have already known that games can be art for ages now. Who among us hasn't contemplated the deeper meaning of the human condition while popping guys' heads off from across the map with the sniper rifle in Unreal Tournament? Is the endless task of retrieving the enemy flag not just a metaphor for that which we desire but which remains always slightly beyond our grasp?

Blogger Salt October 26, 2014 9:41 AM  

#GamerGate has become a major game itself, destroying everything that is SJW and Pink.

Anonymous Shut up rabbit October 26, 2014 9:44 AM  

Squidgey-face Felicia Day yesterday now Anita Never-laughs Sarkesian today all over the twitter. Why the fuck do anti-#GG people keep retweeting cover stories with not quite attractive women on them? It makes Twitter unpleasant to view after a while. Its like poor wine - one glass is enough.

Or are the white knights doing it on purpose so they can fapp to their princesses on twitter and therefore kill two birds with one stone?

Anonymous The other skeptic October 26, 2014 9:45 AM  

How long before Scazi comes out of the closet and finally admits that he's a black, disabled lesbian?

He's married to DeBlasio as well?

Anonymous The other skeptic October 26, 2014 9:47 AM  

How long before we see the GamerGate game and then the Anti-GamerGate game from the SJWs?

Anonymous sawtooth October 26, 2014 9:48 AM  

The stakes are high and the pinkshits know it.

When other institutions witness the gamers throwing the flying middle finger to the cancerous SJWs they will understand that they too can actually tell the SJWs to go fuck themselves. Then the other institutions will realize that they can not only survive but be better off then before.

NFL are you paying attention?

Anonymous Michael October 26, 2014 9:50 AM  

Too late, the NFL has already been taken over by the Marxist-feminists.

Blogger Chris Mallory October 26, 2014 9:54 AM  

" who want games to be “just games” and want criticism of them to be devoid of things like political and social context, "

Funny, I want games to just be games. I also want other works of fiction to just be books or just be movies.

If I read a work of fiction or watch a movie, I do so to be entertained. Just like when I play a game. I don't want social or political commentary. I don't want "other viewpoints". I don't want "equality". I want well written humor, action, or horror.

I used to be a major gamer. But the dumbing down of PC games has turned me off on them. PC games have become nothing more than ports for the consoles and it shows in poor quality and loss of freedom.
I hate checkpoint saves. I have a life. Let me save the game when I damn well want to. I hate twitch style button mashing to defeat a foe. I use a mouse and key board. I don't want to press "A, up, down, and P" to do the super move to defeat the end boss.

Anonymous Fnord P October 26, 2014 9:54 AM  

How long before we see the GamerGate game and then the Anti-GamerGate game from the SJWs?

I think that's what twitter is - don't expect them to develop a real game

Anonymous The other skeptic October 26, 2014 9:59 AM  

Why is this stuff coming out now? Two weeks before the election?

Anonymous The other skeptic October 26, 2014 10:08 AM  

Some else is in the business of creating video games.

Blogger Glen Filthie October 26, 2014 10:14 AM  

I remain convinced that Gamergate is a fight between two groups of very stupid people.

It certainly makes for some high comedy but that's about it.

Anonymous Steve October 26, 2014 10:15 AM  

The other skeptic - Johnny-come-latelies.

There have been Mohammedans in video games for decades. E.g. Bomberman.

Anonymous Randall October 26, 2014 10:22 AM  

I'd like to see a game that involves the player fighting off the pinkshirts - perhaps a mockery of pinkshirt "zombies". Instead of killing them (we must not be accused of death threats), they either wet their panties, go crying to mommy, get sent off to psychiatric wards (only to return later highly medicated with unpredictable side effects), or in the most horrid of all outcomes achieve Christian salvation.

Anonymous trev006 October 26, 2014 10:29 AM  

Glen, I don't even know you, but I can guarantee that I'm smarter than you. After all, only one of us keeps entering conversations they have no interest in order to strike a pose of unearned superiority! I didn't know it was possible for you to be even more boring than when you're constantly whining about your dyke offspring, yet here we are.

As for the GamerGate issue, this is hilarious. Moaning about the popularity of modern shooters and GTA might be popular for critics, but Modern Warfare is far more profitable than the New York Times. It's certainly more influential among gamers, and it won't be much longer until gaming companies can afford to buy these papers outright.

Blogger ajw308 October 26, 2014 10:36 AM  

How long do you give before Scalzi has a mental breakdown
Never. His wife wouldn't let him.

Anonymous Godfrey October 26, 2014 10:50 AM  

LMAO... what great fun, what an utter joy it is to annoy and frustrate the puritanical PC crowd. I love being a counter-cultural heretic! It's a glorious good time.

Anonymous MRR October 26, 2014 10:54 AM  

Sadly, GU Comics has come out on the side of the Anti-GG'ers in his post/comic dated 10/23.

Another comic I can't be bothered to read any more.

Anonymous Strange Aeons October 26, 2014 10:56 AM  

Glen -
I'm not sure why you think gamers are as stupid as pinkshirt-parasites but perhaps this might help you think better of them, not only as people trying to protect their hobby, but also trying to make a positive difference.

Www.extra-life.org

Anonymous Thales October 26, 2014 11:00 AM  

If this continues, the medium I love could go backward into its roots

I wish! Remember when video arcades were filled with games that were actually fun to play?

Anyways, the comments at the NYT are amusing -- a bunch of Abe Simpson wannabees, who were no doubt into "sex, drugs and rock & roll" back in their prime, now hand-wringing about how video games are the devil. Hilarious!

Anonymous Anonymous October 26, 2014 11:01 AM  

Moriarty: There are no SJW games, because conforming to SJW restrictions ruins gaming. It produces tedious half-assed Choose Your Own Adventure crap like Depression Quest. This is something the consumer revolt in #GamerGate is quite aware of and worried for.

Novels can at least exist under the SJW regime. (Boring little political tracts, but novels nonetheless.) Video games cannot.

Speaking of which…

Life After the Death of #GamerGate

The reign of the SJW in gaming, as foreshadowed by the adventures of the Evil League of Evil.

Kick Ass Geek Cast
Monday, Oct. 27 7-7:30pm Eastern
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vd6NAV_McoM

(This is the show the gracious Sarah Hoyt would have been on, had not a crucial piece of equipment broke, forcing me to push on alone. All four members of the ELoE will be highlighted, as well as their struggles against the SJW.)

Anonymous Godfrey October 26, 2014 11:03 AM  

I thought the NYT was defunct? Oh boy, they brought out the big guns now! What next? Town Criers or Bellmen?

Hear ye, hear ye... evil un-PC heretics abound! Rebuke them.... hear ye, hear ye. Get your thoughts in line with what we decree.

Anonymous VD October 26, 2014 11:18 AM  

Another comic I can't be bothered to read any more.

Be sure to let them know.

Anonymous rho October 26, 2014 11:29 AM  

Video games are unquestionably poorer than they were two months ago when this strange and disheartening series of events began.

That's a very strange statement. Now is the greatest time for video game players and developers. With a bit of time and effort, any woman, homosexual or transgender can make, produce and sell any video game they want. The market will reward them commensurate to the demand. Nobody who supports GamerGate will care. They may even play your game.

How is this in any way making video gaming "poorer"?

This boondoggle started with various people taking the side of a woman who is very likely unstable, prone to exaggerations and who thrives on drama. It was a poor choice of an ally, as since then the movement has grown far beyond ethics in journalism. They wanted to foment a culture war, and now they've got one. Turns out a culture war is not in their best interests, because at best they've got 50% of the market. The actual numbers are likely much more lopsided. Which they'll find out when more ordinary gamers stumble across the battles.

Anonymous Michael October 26, 2014 11:36 AM  

Thales, "Remember when video arcades were filled with games that were actually fun to play?"

Absolutely. There was no political agenda, just fun, immersive games filled to the brim with great mechanics and design.

Where were all these SJW back then? To all the people who support inverting our laws and traditions, I ask, where was their self-righteous indignation back when gamers were openly ridiculed by the mainstream as geeks and losers? It didn't seem to bother them before that gaming was male-dominated. As well, where was all this political support for LGBT and the modern fiction that is SS'M back in the day? Nonexistent.

This agenda has nothing to do with equality or human rights; it has everything to do with creating a stepping stone to change our social traditions and legal constructs, to force their secular Marxist vision upon the majority.

Anonymous Don October 26, 2014 11:36 AM  

Vox - why not a Selenoth mod for Skyrim or something. It would make the pink shirts weep cotton candy flavored pink tears.

Anonymous Titus Didius Tacitus October 26, 2014 11:39 AM  

Michael: "Too late, the NFL has already been taken over by the Marxist-feminists."

The Social Justice Warriors can win any fight and take over any cultural activity, including any sport, provided that it has a leadership divorced from people who play that sport and receptive to mass media flattery or shaming. (Or to back-channel influence by ykw social peers.)

The NFL has such a leadership. It's gone for good.

The gamers don't. They're going to win.

Anonymous Ostar October 26, 2014 11:42 AM  

There's a parody of Depression Quest, called "Oppression Quest", mocking the former and its SJW attitude.
http://oppressionquest.com.

Blogger Nate October 26, 2014 11:45 AM  

"Michael: "Too late, the NFL has already been taken over by the Marxist-feminists." "

No. What you're jumping to the wrong conclusion. Goodell isn't a marxist... he's an idiot harvard business robot.

He came into power with a single minded raw determination: sell the NFL to Women.

Every single thing he has done has been done with that goal in mind. Player Safety? Yep. Conduct? Yep. PinkTober? You got it.

It has nothing to do with social justice. It has everything to do with Goodell trying to sell the league to women and the total failure of that policy.

Anonymous tiredofitall October 26, 2014 11:48 AM  

"Turns out a culture war is not in their best interests, because at best they've got 50% of the market. The actual numbers are likely much more lopsided. Which they'll find out when more ordinary gamers stumble across the battles." - rho

There's no way in hell the SJW contingent even breaks double digits in legit gaming. They may rule over "indie games" that no one outside their circle-jerk know or care about, but there is no way they have any real clout in actual games people want to play.

Despite what Gawker media says otherwise people aren't rushing to play the free shitshow that is Depression Quest.

Anonymous Michael October 26, 2014 11:49 AM  

Titus, it's worth noting that just because the feminists got their way within the NFL doesn't mean that they've succeeded at conforming their fan-base to their way of thinking. Also, the MSM's popularity is at an all-time low, which serves to highlight most American's lack of trust. Hence why you keep seeing the Marxists attempting to interject themselves in other industries, because they know that the majority isn't listening to them. They're in panic mode.

Anonymous Statists are so dull October 26, 2014 11:52 AM  

Where were all these SJW back then?
They hadn't developed yet. SJW is a disease of excess availability, in their case freedom to express themselves, combined with a complete lack of self-control. Obesity of the mind!

Anonymous Michael October 26, 2014 11:52 AM  

Nate, that's true, but don't discount the efforts of the feminists to come in and ramrod their stupid political agenda. It's all about appropriating the NFL's popularity to compensate for lack of MSM viewership, that's all.

Anonymous Michael October 26, 2014 11:58 AM  

Statists are so dull, they had developed but only in small, socially shunned (and for good reason) enclaves. Now that the Marxists have infiltrated our country and gained political leverage, they're looking to brainwash as much of our youth as is possible. How to accomplish this? What do most young people do? Play video games. That's why they're so desperate to get into the industry by hook or by crook.

Blogger Nate October 26, 2014 11:58 AM  

''Nate, that's true, but don't discount the efforts of the feminists to come in and ramrod their stupid political "

I don't disagree.. but goodell's question for the female audience is gate that lets the SJWs in. .

Anonymous Discard October 26, 2014 11:59 AM  

As an ignoramus regarding video games, I can only grasp this as another battlefield in the culture war. Given that, it seems to me that this writer should have left sleeping dogs lie. He objects to the lack of social and political criticism? What if there were a lot of new games based on political scandals, like Bengazi or Fast and Furious? How about one based on women trying to become Marine infantry officers and failing miserably? How about "The Day the EBT Card Runs Out"?

Or maybe that's their fear and they want to take control before it happens

Blogger Nate October 26, 2014 11:59 AM  

"Grown men playing games all day. Terrific. Another symptom of our decline"

Shut up retard.

Anonymous rho October 26, 2014 11:59 AM  

There's no way in hell the SJW contingent even breaks double digits in legit gaming. They may rule over "indie games" that no one outside their circle-jerk know or care about, but there is no way they have any real clout in actual games people want to play.

I'm counting those who are agitating for revolution along with those who agree with the goals or can be swayed in that direction. So, for rough numbers, all women and all left-leaning men. That's--maybe, at best--half of the market.

They suffer from the "Nobody I know voted for Nixon!" disease, so they think their position is stronger than it is. I'm suggesting that what they're looking at is, optimistically, a full on war of attrition. More likely they're looking at a complete rout.

Anonymous Discard October 26, 2014 12:06 PM  

Anonymous: Who says that video game players play all day. Yes, many do, but so do many people watch TV or drink or play solitaire all day. Playing video games is a pastime, and no worse than playing sudoku or reading romance novels. It's certainly not as bad as reading the New York Times every day.

Anonymous DaveD October 26, 2014 12:07 PM  

I think you guys are understating the number of potential pinkshirts there are in gaming. Pretty much ALL the hardcore gamers I know are sexual freaks, omega white knights, or feminists. It's one of the big reasons I can't get into it that much: a bunch of broken, twisted people hiding from the real world & feelbad in their games.

Now, they want those games to celebrate their brokenness. We get the Mass Effect Gay Romance series.

Admittedly, my experience may very well be far from the usual gamer group.

Anonymous Toby Temple October 26, 2014 12:25 PM  

"Grown men playing games all day. Terrific. Another symptom of our decline"

+3


Life's a game. So when are you guys going to quit?

Anonymous Statists are so dull October 26, 2014 12:25 PM  

@Michael
they had developed...


I agrees that The leaders have always been there, they are just the usual intra- species parasites but they didn't have enough useful idiots of the SJW persuasion to affect anything until this generation of mental-diabetics, gouged on freedom of thought, arrived.

Anonymous Statists are so dull October 26, 2014 12:27 PM  

No anonymous comments - please delete the troll

Anonymous trev006 October 26, 2014 12:28 PM  

Different types of people like different genres, Dave. You can call Halo and MW players a pack of homos, but quite a few frat players would crack your face in for it. We know lots of people who get into gaming because of alienation from mainstream culture, and I'm not interested in shutting down their games, yet the most popular forms of gaming celebrate a very competitive, aggressive culture. You don't have to like it, but no one's forcing you to enjoy yourself because no one cares.

Bioware's trying to play up the SJW angle, and in a ridiculously permissive culture that might just be good business sense, but trying to be anti-gamer is outright lunacy because of their competitors.. Dragon Age: Origins sold 3.2 million copies within its first few months, and I'm confident Dragon Age 2 sold far less because of its vastly poorer quality. That's expected for a major AAA title. Except... the Witcher series has sold 6 million copies to date. You can blame that on Steam sales bringing in people who wouldn't buy copies at full price, but Wild Hunt looks at least as good as Dragon Age, with the bonus of the game quality increasing over time instead of decreasing. It promises to be a riposte against the SJW crowd while being a giant middle finger to corporate marketing. I already pre-ordered it.

Anonymous VD October 26, 2014 12:36 PM  

No anonymous comments - please delete the troll

Already spammed both of them. A third one was caught in the spam-trap.

Anonymous Toby Temple October 26, 2014 12:38 PM  

See why these SJWs are losing? They can't even follow simple instructions.

Anonymous DaveD October 26, 2014 12:46 PM  

Trev, I am in no way saying all gamers are of the type I described. Its simply the most rabid ones I know are. 2 lesbians, a guy becoming a girl who likes girls, some grotesquely fat guys, one of which is firmly in the closet and is a proud SJW from behind the internet, a 6 foot, 300 lbs chick that once dated a male gay COUPLE, etc. I like a good game but I just can't dedicate hours a day to it & certainly not with a bunch of broken SJWs.

To be clear, I'm firmly in the pro GamerGate/ anti-SJW camp. I just think some may be underestimating the numbers of SJWs in gaming.

Blogger kudzu bob October 26, 2014 12:46 PM  

@Glenn Flilthie

As nearly as I can tell, those commenters here who bother to address your posts think that you are a self-aggrandizing fool. Each post of yours that I read reinforces my suspicion that they are right. No intelligent man would be any more interested in your opinions on gaming than he would be in your obvious lies or in your thoughts on how to raise mentally healthy daughters.

Anonymous Shut up rabbit October 26, 2014 12:47 PM  

See why these SJWs are losing? They can't even follow simple instructions.
They think that they're so special they instruction don't apply to them.

Anonymous Titus Didius Tacitus October 26, 2014 12:52 PM  

Nate: "It has nothing to do with social justice. It has everything to do with Goodell trying to sell the league to women and the total failure of that policy."

An individual explanation doesn't cover a general phenomenon, which the Irish Savant is also wondering about. (link)

Let me cite a few facts and then ask a question: If you're a football fan you must have noticed the degree of insanity associated with the issue of race. Serious drugs and match-fixing offenders, which strike at the sport's fundamentals - get off with the proverbial slap on the wrist. Yet should a player be accused - note accused - of a racist insult his world will collapse.

...

All over Europe clubs have incurred devastating financial losses and had on-field performances impacted by the partial, or as in the case of CSKA Moscow, total closure of their grounds.

...

So my question is this: Why do such men and their equally corrupt and unprincipled organisations do what they do on the racism issue? Remember that in a sense there's nothing in it for them. It's costing the crooks a lot of money, disruption, disputes and law suits, outrage from most players and fans. And what do they get in return?

The Olympics have become stiflingly politically correct too.

It's a broad issue of authority and political correctness in sports, and now games.

Anonymous trev006 October 26, 2014 12:56 PM  

I don't think we disagree then, Dave. You're right that there are a lot of losers in the gaming movement- some will cower before Anita Sarkeesian, which should be grounds for castration. Can some of those be salvaged? I'm not sure. But what the SJWs want, the collapse of broader gaming culture, will never happen. The most they can do is inflame lots of people into being viciously anti-leftist, and capture an irrelevant gaming press. If EA realized how much money they were losing, they'd have Misdirected Wu up on a cross yesterday.

Blogger YIH October 26, 2014 1:03 PM  

FUBAR nation Ben:
How long do you give before Scalzi has a mental breakdown?
You mean he hasn't? And yet another nugget from Kleweless:
''Like they’re all little Anne Franks, hiding in their basements from the PC Nazis and Social Justice Warrior brigades, desperately protecting the last shreds of “core gaming” in their unironically horrible Liveblog journals filled with patently obvious white privilege and poorly disguised misogyny. “First they came for our Halo 2’s, and I said nothing.”
These paint-huffing shitgoblins think they’re “gamers,” and it pisses me the fuck off.
I grew up playing games. When I was six years old, back in 1987 (so long ago!), I got an NES, and there was no looking back. I played Battletoads, and learned that “faster computer reactions” is a cheap substitute for “harder difficulty.”
And yet no NFL team has sought his services as a cheap substitute for ''a punter''. Even the Jaguars don't want him ;)

Blogger MidKnight October 26, 2014 1:23 PM  

@Daddy Warpig

But some of the SJW influences can be seen.

I was looking at the info on Sunset Overdrive ("Blood and Gore, Sexual Themes, Strong Language, Violence" - with a gloriously over the top trailer) and a discussion of the characters/skinning is prominent in the media center. The art director says how diversity is important to her. They go out of their way to introduce people of different genders, races, and even body sizes, with customizable costumes.

And, with all this work to make the game "diverse" and bring in "street culture" - I note the baddies all look like non-humans.

In a way, I get it. If this is your avatar, making it as customizable as possible - that you can afford to spend time on - is good.

That said, I bet, with all this work to make the players "diverse" in all the SJW checkbox ways, the market and (more importantly) stats on regular players will trend overwhelmingly male.

Anonymous Titus Didius Tacitus October 26, 2014 1:24 PM  

Michael: "Titus, it's worth noting that just because the feminists got their way within the NFL doesn't mean that they've succeeded at conforming their fan-base to their way of thinking."

In the long run, if you make the wrong opinions within a system illegal, those committed to the system find their way to correct opinions.

To have any standing, to have any say, you have to have the right views. If you don't, then at best you are vulnerable to blackmail if anyone records and leaks a private conversation you had. To be secure - which is what people want, you have to be "in character" at all times, even in your innermost thoughts.

If your school, club or other organization is going to be harshly penalized unless you are "trying to do the right thing" on race, "gender" or any other issue, and your private opinions will bear on that, anyone who wants to be anyone but a silent and powerless wallflowers will find their way to the correct opinions. Regular supporters will demand it: they won't want you to let the school / team / whatever down.

This is how America found its way to right opinions on race: as a top-down, coercive process. Heck, this is a lot like how Europe became Christian in the first place.

Do your think MMA fans are politically correct, trans-friendly "anti-racists" by preference? Of course not - but there exists an unrepresentative authoritative leadership, and that drags people in the direction of political correctness.

People need good leaders or no leaders.

Whatever you are in, if the leadership is bad and can't be fixed you need to get out and try something else.

Blogger Salt October 26, 2014 1:34 PM  

Some link, YIH. Kluwe's in need of a major enema to help sort his brain out. Who'd want such an embarrassment around.

Anonymous Titus Didius Tacitus October 26, 2014 1:40 PM  

Michael: "Also, the MSM's popularity is at an all-time low, which serves to highlight most American's lack of trust."

That's good of course.

Michael: "Hence why you keep seeing the Marxists attempting to interject themselves in other industries, because they know that the majority isn't listening to them. They're in panic mode."

I don't think so. I think they're the equivalent of gaudily costumed villains yelling "NOTHING CAN STOP ME NOW!!" (Tim Wise's famous w-word g-word thing-that-shall-not-be-spoken-of rant, An Open Letter to the White Right, On the Occasion of Your Recent, Successful Temper Tantrum is an example of the semi-semitic Soon I Will Be Invincible genre.)

There are people, including Victor Davis Hanson (surprisingly enough) who think Nemesis a real, fully-paid-up goddess, effective in the affairs of men. Anyone willing even to wonder about that also has to wonder: how is this going to work out for people whose impiety, vices and megalomania are beyond precedent?

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Anonymous Giuseppe October 26, 2014 1:51 PM  

Difstet,

Hahhahahaha beautiful. That Haiku is a true work of art

Anonymous FP October 26, 2014 2:04 PM  

"about video games being "in the permanent collection at MoMA". So fucking what?"

But, NYC is the cultural center of the world! Bow down before its greatness and Ebowla-chans!

This reminds me of a guy on a left leaning gaming forum I read years ago who stated he only considered people informed if they read the NYT at least once a week. They are the paper of record or something.

Anonymous The other skeptic October 26, 2014 2:05 PM  

There are many special snowflakes in the US.

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Blogger Franz Lionheart October 26, 2014 2:18 PM  

"Grown men playing games all day. Terrific. Another symptom of our decline"
Timmy S +3


Bravo, the mask of our latest resident troll came off: For all their screeching about how they "always have loved video games" since they were "little girls", the SJW freaks cannot hide the fact that they actually despise games and gamers. No better way for Timmy S to prove Vox's closing point of this post : "Anti-GG is Gamer-Hate."

Now I cannot claim to be a gamer (anymore; back in the day, I've lost nights and the following day over The Hobbit, Leisure Suit Larry, X-Wing, Tie Fighter, Warcraft/ Starcraft, Master of Orion; no more time in our hectic lives today anymore, I'm afraid). So nowadays I'm relegated to observe this fight from the sidelines. But to an observant spectator like myself, it has recently become very obvious which side is lying, and which side is truthfully engaged to protect their unique culture. And which side honestly and actually enjoys games (video or otherwise), rather than pushing a hidden agenda.

Anonymous MrGreenMan October 26, 2014 2:20 PM  

"in the permanent collection at MoMA"

I hear the Flint Institute of Art is attempting to get some relevance with a video game exhibition.

Anonymous FP October 26, 2014 2:21 PM  

Speaking of the Witcher vs Dragon Age, new Witcher 3 trailer:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=xly6-YButlk

Blogger rcocean October 26, 2014 2:23 PM  

Perhaps one day VD can address why so many people CARE so much what the NYT - one newspaper - writes.

Blogger rcocean October 26, 2014 2:24 PM  

The cultural marxists attach themselves to anything that has influence and try to subvert and use it to push their message.

Anonymous The other skeptic October 26, 2014 2:27 PM  

I hate to sound ignorant but what is this New York Times and MoMA thing you speak of? Is it anything like the Oprah Winfrey Book Club?

Anonymous trev006 October 26, 2014 2:41 PM  

I was at the Metropolitan Museum of Art earlier this year. I could explore that place for days and not get bored. While I understand how someone could want to see the Museum of MODERN Art if they are in New York for long enough, I cannot imagine how shallow you'd have to be to prefer a VideoGame exhibit to one of the worlds richest cultural collections.

Blogger Cataline Sergius October 26, 2014 2:47 PM  

Can Video Games Survive?

I loved the title.

For a long time I had been worried about pinkshirts taking over the gaming industry, just like they have in every other place that offers enough fat for a parasite to live on.

There is no getting around it, Entryism is a sound tactic.

And I was starting to see it's influence making headway. Roland turning bisexual out of the blue in Borderlands 2. Some the playing options in Fallout New Vegas and ME3, (etc).

I had also noticed recently that games were starting to be designed with the desires of animators and artists in mind.

Kill three monsters, turn left, cut scene. Kill three more monsters, turn right. Kill one monster, cut scene.

And with every cutscene and every voice over the animators, artists and actors came one step closer to taking over the industry.

Except with every cutscene and every voice over. The gamers seemed less and less interested in those kind of games.

I begun think...Begun to hope that for once there might be something that they can't take over.

Pinkshirts are by and large incompetents who need to parasitize successful industries. Oh there are one or two that know what they are doing but as soon as they are in a position to start hiring they hire on the basis of pinkshirt objectives instead of the company's profit margin. Then they bog down and kill what ever industry it is that they have infested.

There was no room in games production for useless mouths but there was plenty in gaming journalism. So they took that over. And to their horror, they suddenly are finding themselves marginalized. Gamers are not only not paying attention to them, they are actively rejecting them.

Cataline's crystal ball is cracked, foggy and generally unreliable but here is what it says the future holds for gaming. Either the Pinkshirts will fall back on government regulation to mandate what games can and cannot contain, thus killing gaming or driving it completely underground.

Or gaming culture will quickly become a pariah colony so far as the SJWs are concerned. Like the Ku Klux Klan or the NRA or the Church of Latter Day Saints. Something that offers no point of Entryism and therefore must be treated like the White Walkers, an unspeakable horror past imagining that may not even be mentioned except in terms of derision, revulsion and horror.

Anonymous trev006 October 26, 2014 2:47 PM  

That trailer was beautiful. Thanks for posting it. That's Witcher 3: Poland's #1 medieval themed rape simulator!

Blogger Glen Filthie October 26, 2014 3:45 PM  

Captain Capitalism summed the thing up well on his blog, boys - and he is correct that the market will take care of those poltroons in due course.

But hey - if you want to make yourselves look stupid fighting with other stupid people that are in no position to hurt you - people, BTW, whom you claim that you couldn't care less about - knock yourselves out.
Ya know, I would give me left nut to hear what my mentally ill dyke offspring had to say about this. She was quite the gamer too...that idiot probably developed a split personality over this tempest in a teapot! HAR HAR HAR!!!!

Anonymous Jump the Shark October 26, 2014 3:56 PM  

To be fair, Depression Quest is a rather clever clinical depression simulator. As someone who downs a handful of pills each day to be quasi-normal, I can also attest to it's relative accuracy.

Why the heck an intentionally anti-fun amature disability simulator should be considered a game is beyond me. How it's supposed to help depressed folk is also beyond me.

Anonymous Jump the Shark October 26, 2014 4:11 PM  

Begun to hope that for once there might be something that they can't take over.

They had a shot. They moved too soon, too hard, too fast, and wildly underestimated the power of their erstwhile prey.

Blogger LP 999/Eliza October 26, 2014 4:14 PM  

What? They want to end or injure the video game industry? Huh?

They should go back to the AGW, feminism, etc.,or take up drinking.

The console VG and PC gaming is here is to stay. It's impervious to any trouble!

Dark Souls 2 DLC soul level of light n' fight; 211 and doin' fine!! PC chess and tetris doin' fine!

Blogger LP 999/Eliza October 26, 2014 4:20 PM  

These they laychics, layquasiprfessionals will not enter the gaming industry b/c I wont let them. Word has it outside of art, they have no new ideas, cannot program, wait, this is giving me a headache. Someone, a man, needs to redirect their attentions to the toys girls have; dolls, make the dolls into whatever charterers pink, mauve, whatever short shirts want.

Anonymous kh123 October 26, 2014 4:40 PM  

"This boondoggle started with various people taking the side of a woman who is very likely unstable, prone to exaggerations and who thrives on drama."

Hasn't been the first in this industry. How are those work conditions over at EA, Miss Hoffman.

Anonymous kh123 October 26, 2014 4:47 PM  

"Terrific. Another symptom of..."

As opposed to off-topic trolling the internet over Jebus.

Anonymous Anonymous October 26, 2014 5:12 PM  

"Is there a list somewhere of Pink/SJW Compliant games?"

I quit playing Elder Scrolls Online a few weeks ago, a fantasy themepark MMO, (like D&D online kind of), when I walked up to an npc and the dude asked for my help to find his husband.

Anonymous Anonymous October 26, 2014 5:24 PM  

"... Where were all these SJW back then?..."

"... They hadn't developed yet. SJW is a disease of excess availability, in their case freedom to express themselves, combined with a complete lack of self-control. Obesity of the mind!..."

Incorrect. They were busy taking over the schools and universities.

Anonymous Shut up rabbit October 26, 2014 5:25 PM  

Oh look, the scary pantomime villain and the mirthless telesales spiv are organizing a boycott of Assassins Creed because there were no female assassins in c16 Italy - dat history be so racisss and oh so sexisss we must teach it a lesson!

No seriously, check out #NoWomenNoAC on the twitter. The tall one who might have been a man is doing it. Its got to be a joke right? Wasn't AC created by a woman? Jade Raymond? It has gone beyond parody, Poe's law has been broken!

I wasn't interested in the series before but I think I might just buy a copy out of spite.

Anonymous kh123 October 26, 2014 5:37 PM  

"Toterants..."

I'll assume this to be a Freudian slip in German.

Anonymous Shut up rabbit October 26, 2014 5:37 PM  

Timmy, you're being a dick. You are just proving our point and condemning your side with your immature nonsense. This is not that kind of site. Piss off now, there's a good boy.

Anonymous Steve October 26, 2014 5:45 PM  

Shut up rabbit - They're boycotting Assassin's Creed? Good, good. Apart from anything made by Bioware, the AC series is perhaps the most SJW-leaning of AAA games.

The lesson here, Ubisoft, is that nothing you can do will ever satisfy the SJW.

Blogger kudzu bob October 26, 2014 6:03 PM  

@Glenn Filthie

It is painfully apparent that you hate your daughter and wish her harm. You would have us believe that you broke off all contact with her, but no doubt it was the other way around.

Anonymous True GamerGater October 26, 2014 6:11 PM  

"Timmy, you're being a dick. You are just proving our point and condemning your side with your immature nonsense"

I would never do anything to condemn my Gamergate Crew. Together we stand for God's righteous call to threaten, intimidate, and take down woman! Don't mistake my nice demeanor. Like all of you,y friends and comrades, I will muster what it takes to take down those who dare utter an opinion different or contrary to ours.

Blogger RandalThorn October 26, 2014 6:14 PM  

Tommy, it is 20:00, the sun has set, now, be a good SJWhore and go fellate an undergraduate in a dark corner.

Anonymous True Gamer gater October 26, 2014 6:20 PM  

"Tommy, it is 20:00, the sun has set, now, be a good SJWhore and go fellate an undergraduate in a dark corner."

+5

See that Tommy, that's how a thinking Gamergater performs an intellectual takedown! That's the proof of the journalistic corruption you SJW just won't face! Suck it, SJW. hooray for #Gamergate!

Anonymous Shut up rabbit October 26, 2014 6:21 PM  

Seriously Timmy, you've pissed yourself and your drool is encrusting your t-shirt. Just put down the keyboard and go and take a shower. You are embarrassing yourself. Your mother is crying upstairs. Poor thing.

Blogger RandalThorn October 26, 2014 6:22 PM  

Oh, I am sure he did not need my advice, he would do so anyway, like you and every other SJWhore.

Blogger GK Chesterton October 26, 2014 6:24 PM  

Having never played Assassins Creed...isn't it anti-West too? Muslims are the heroes right?

Anonymous Gara October 26, 2014 6:24 PM  

I quit playing Elder Scrolls Online a few weeks ago, a fantasy themepark MMO, (like D&D online kind of), when I walked up to an npc and the dude asked for my help to find his husband.

OMG, how horrible!! I guess it is completely ok if games treat women like shit but how dare they despict gay people....

About this entire GG thing, what is so wrong with criticizing companies in an effort to get them to improve their product? How is asking for women to be treated better in games going to destroy the whole industry?

What feminist are doing has already been done before in television, movies, books, etc As companies notice that demographics are changing and there is a wider audience they can reach, so have their products. For example, the representation of blacks in the media has vastly increased, and the film industry doesn't seem to be close to collapsing any time soon.

When conservatives where complaining about the film Noah for not being biblically accurate, I didn't see anyone telling them "well then go make your own damn film", much less sending them death threats over it. But feminist critizing sexism in games is the end of the world.

Blogger Cee October 26, 2014 6:28 PM  

About this entire GG thing, what is so wrong with criticizing companies in an effort to get them to improve their product? How is asking for women to be treated better in games going to destroy the whole industry?

When I feel mistreated by games, I'll speak up for myself. You don't need to defend me.

Run along.

Blogger Retrenched October 26, 2014 6:29 PM  

Coming out against Gamergate, especially right now, would be business suicide for any major publisher or developer. The only ones who might be able to get away with it would be EA, and that's only because of the millions of idiots who buy Madden every year, even though the franchise peaked many years ago and really sucks now.

Anonymous Shut up rabbit October 26, 2014 6:34 PM  

What feminist are doing has already been done before in television, movies, books, etc
Because those people were too polite to tell your lot to fuck off. Now you have met your Waterloo.

No one is stopping you making your own "Poop Quest" game or whatever rocks your boat just don't make everyone else have to add a compulsory public health hazard to their games because you don't have the ability to do it yourself. Gamers don't want it and they don't need it and they haven't been socialized to succumb to deviant demands through shaming.

You've come along way from the glory holes of public conveniences but now there is a line in the sand and we are saying we don't want to look at your junk in public and we don't care that you want to dress up as a woman but we will not dance at your 'wedding' and you will not destroy the games.

How does it feel to be on the wrong side of history?

Anonymous kh123 October 26, 2014 6:35 PM  

"...how dare they despict gay people...."

Freudian slip in English this time!

Anonymous Shut up rabbit October 26, 2014 6:38 PM  

Freudian slip in English this time!
That's because they don't even believe the messaging themselves. They just don't know how to stand up against the SJW authority that is making them repeat and repeat and repeat...Embrace the truth. End the lie.

Anonymous True Gamer gater October 26, 2014 6:39 PM  

"When I feel mistreated by games, I'll speak up for myself. You don't need to defend me"

Thank you Cee. Can we end this now? Cee has demonstrated that it's not even possible for women to be offended by the games and game culture. SHE doesn't mind it. Case closed!!!

Anonymous Statists are so dull October 26, 2014 6:41 PM  

SHE doesn't mind it. Case closed!!!
Good. Now will you shut the fuck up you tiresome little fapp-stain.
Cheers

Anonymous True Gamer gate October 26, 2014 6:46 PM  

"just don't make everyone else have to add a compulsory public health hazard to their games"

Yeah! Tell'em brother. We don want and we don't need no damn women anywhere but in the kitchen, let alone in the games. If we want women unmourned games that we can kick, stab and mutilate for the sheer pleasure of seeing a wan scream. If only virtually, then that's what we'll get.

Blogger Retrenched October 26, 2014 6:48 PM  

Shut up Ann.

Anonymous True Gamer gater October 26, 2014 6:52 PM  

"Shut up Ann."

Yeah! Shut the fuck up, Ann. No vaginas allowed...this is about gaming.

Way to put it to her Retrenched!

Anonymous Shut up rabbit October 26, 2014 6:53 PM  

Timmy, have you ever even seen a woman naked? IRL, not you daily pr0n (how many times a day now? your mother could tell me but she is so ashamed of you). You won't get "any" by fighting a losing cause, you know. No girl is watching. They're not reading your emails with the links to your valiant trolling. No one finds you 'sex-hay' for trolling decent people's websites. You will die alone - unless you start doing something productive and soon.

Blogger RandalThorn October 26, 2014 6:54 PM  

So that's what sodium looks like when has taken written form.

Anonymous trev006 October 26, 2014 6:55 PM  

Please don't buy a copy of AC, even to spite the left. I want them to burn rapidly and painfully for taking what might have been an interesting concept and burying it under an avalanche of horseshit that makes Dan Brown look like Tolstoy. It's absolutely a miserable social justice compost heap. If it's boycotted by both left and right I'll only be relieved. At least Bioware mostly just makes its products to conform with a gay-friendly society: broader SJW issues rarely come up beyond the optional romances and insisting that FemShep is best.

Except for Dragon Age, which they absolutely ruined with retconned SJW idiocy. Now that franchise needs to go down fast, and I'm thinking it will.

Anonymous kh123 October 26, 2014 6:58 PM  

The anti-GG crowd should look to license Milgram's 37 for their anthem. If Apple hasn't beaten them to it already.

Blogger Cee October 26, 2014 7:02 PM  

Self-righteous and incapable of reading comprehension. "I can defend myself" is not "I'm incapable of being offended", idiot.

Anonymous kh123 October 26, 2014 7:06 PM  

......The future of SJW gaming. I mean, they're pressing buttons and interacting with another player, right?

Anonymous A. Nonymous October 26, 2014 7:10 PM  

Other game designers, journalists and cultural critics have been threatened, or have faced hacking attempts on their online accounts, from email to social media to banking.

The fuck does gaming need "cultural critics" for?

I used to be a major gamer. But the dumbing down of PC games has turned me off on them. PC games have become nothing more than ports for the consoles and it shows in poor quality and loss of freedom.

The shift between the original Crysis and its ported bastard offspring is particularly glaring in this regard. I can't help but wondering if there's also some sort of twisted, SJW logic at work in the sequels in that the two white player-characters from the original game were sidelined (implied to be dead, until the backlash led to retcons) in favour of their monotonously dull black commanding officer, who then dies, but imprints his consciousness on the new, essentially-sentient Nanosuit 2, which eventually completely takes over the (presumably white) Marine who inherits the suit, and eventually morphs itself into a simulacrum of the black character at the end of the third game.

And I was starting to see it's influence making headway. Roland turning bisexual out of the blue in Borderlands 2.
Wasn't that Axton? Anyway, there's also the pushing of interracialism in that Roland was supposed to be romantically linked to the pale, red-haired Lilith, and Sir Hammerlock is homosexual, and Handsome Jack threatens an underling's same-sex "spouse" for leverage...

Blech.

Anonymous True Gamer gater October 26, 2014 7:12 PM  

"Self-righteous and incapable of reading comprehension. "I can defend myself" is not "I'm incapable of being offended", idiot."

Timmy, if Cee doesn't care that we gamers like to ridicule, humiliate and degrade women, why the hell should you? She's a GIRL, idiot...and she likes being degraded. Now just shut up stupid head.

Blogger Cee October 26, 2014 7:16 PM  

Oh, yes! I am so glad you're degrading me just like those evil gamer-gaters, so I can feel at home!

You are truly a champion of something. Ain't sure what, but I'd put "women" real low on the list even for your non-satirical SJW alter-ego.

Anonymous kh123 October 26, 2014 7:27 PM  

"Timmy, if..."

Add talking to one's self to the list.

Anonymous Dudesy October 26, 2014 7:29 PM  

"What feminist are doing has already been done before in television, movies, books, etc"

And how did that work out for them? The top selling/rated TV shows, movies, and books are all those in the traditional mindset. The SJW crap is forgotten immediately after it comes out and sinks to the bottom.

Video games will be no different.

Anonymous Saraf October 26, 2014 7:29 PM  

Cee,

The NYT article was right on. It's not the idiots who make violent threats that is the problem. It's people like you who could care less that too much of the gaming culture degrades women and treats them like trash.

Anonymous A. Nonymous October 26, 2014 7:30 PM  

Please don't buy a copy of AC, even to spite the left. I want them to burn rapidly and painfully for taking what might have been an interesting concept and burying it under an avalanche of horseshit that makes Dan Brown look like Tolstoy.

I want them to burn for making a game where the protagonist is a Muslim running around killing Crusaders.

Anonymous Shut up rabbit October 26, 2014 7:33 PM  

@Cee
Just imagine it's IRL. The weedy little shit would be flat on his back with his ugly nose broken and bleeding and little children would be pissing on his craven, supine form.
I suggest you ignore this thread as unfortunately this isn't IRL and dicks like him (or her, it might be a fat, diabetic lesbian - you never know) get off sexually from harassment on the Internet. Its the only kind of empowerment they have access to - they cannot be reasoned with all they want is to fapp.

Anonymous FP October 26, 2014 7:35 PM  

Hah, lead writer of Dragon Age 3 opines on gamergate...

http://www.gameranx.com/updates/id/24850/article/dragon-age-inquisition-lead-writer-defends-anita-sarkeesian-s-right-to-criticize-his-games/

They should throw in some depression quest day one DLC for the game.

Anonymous Michael October 26, 2014 7:36 PM  

Statists are so dull & Titus Didius Tacitus, interesting stuff. Thanks.

Nate, as with any business the size of the NFL, there are a wide range of people with influence, from the upper echelons to the networks, advertisers and affiliates.

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Marxists are masters at lies and deception. As such, the deliberate perversion of definitions and terminology is one of their favorite tactics. Consider the word tolerance. In the past, it meant to put up with conditions, ideas or actions which would otherwise be considered unacceptable, improper, abnormal or aggravating. Recently, the Marxists changed the definition to become a synonym for acceptance, as if it were a virtue. The idea behind this perversion being to create the illusion that all beliefs, ideas and actions are in fact equal, an inherent falsehood.

Another shining example of their intellectual dishonesty is how they throw around words like discrimination, utilized as a [misconstrued] slander in order to force an unwanted condition upon others, typically some Babylonian concept such as multiculturalism. Discrimination isn't an inherently negative trait in and of itself as everyone discriminates in various ways throughout their lives. For instance, most people have a natural inclination toward their own kind, be it racially, religiously or otherwise. We discriminate against bad things, and why not? Discrimination is a necessary prerequisite for an individual to exercise free association, because in order to do so requires that you act on bias.

Anonymous Statists are so dull October 26, 2014 7:42 PM  

Oh look, someone else has turned up to support Timmy's febrile rantings - the SJWs must be winning 'cos you can't just choose another name to comment under. Oh Noes! All is lost to the power of the sodomites/diabetic carpet munchers. We must all abandon our civilization, accept shariah law and contract Ebola as is our destiny to appease the sodomites.

Anonymous FP October 26, 2014 7:43 PM  

Hilarious run down of sparklepunter's hypocrisy in an image:

http://imgur.com/a/AKE6c/noscript

Anonymous kh123 October 26, 2014 7:53 PM  

"Discrimination is a necessary prerequisite..."

Would figure for basic survival even, and more than just physically.

Is why I thought "toterance" was such a dead-on term to describe the current SJW mission. Sell the rope that hangs them indeed - and they're not even making anything off of it.

Thanks, Timmy.

Anonymous trev006 October 26, 2014 8:00 PM  

It's a maelstrom of irrelevance with Kluweless, isn't it? I don't care what gaming "journalists" have to offer for their GamerGate excuses and I certainly don't care what a failed NFL punter says. As for David Gaider, he can't get fired quickly enough. For all the boasts about Dragon Age 2 costing far less to produce than DA:O, they've had to go right back to their prior expensive business model to try and get the same level of trust from their audience. And they'll fail, relatively to their previous success, for three reasons:

1) It's Electronic Arts, and no one trusts them.
2) Even if they did, people still remember the undeserved hype for DA2's bloody awful gameplay.
3) Even if hope triumphed over experience, Bioware's alignment with the SJW types opened up the AAA medieval fantasy arena to competitors, and getting celebrity voiceovers isn't enough to fix that. Just ask Peter Dinklage how well he was received on Destiny.

Anonymous FP October 26, 2014 8:13 PM  

Two more interesting links, one on advertising and gawker:

http://adland.tv/adnews/gawker-toxic-brands-who-partner-them/1291467968#7SJBLOuUTu9WRhpZ.99

and linked from that article:

"What did those horrible sexist game-devs do? They all banded together and quit the show on the spot. That's the truth of how sexist gamedevs actually are, is, they're not at all and yet the media is still running with this reality TV show plotline, referring to each other as sources, making the press even less useful than in the good old days when we at least could wrap our fish and chips in it."

http://indiestatik.com/2014/03/31/most-expensive-game-jam/

Anonymous Discard October 26, 2014 9:07 PM  

Gara: Since you chose the example of the media depiction of Blacks, tell me: Is that depiction at all realistic? Are there really all these brilliant Blacks saving us? Inventing a tail fin protheses for a dolphin? Et cetera?

So why should anyone want to see the same B.S. in any other media form?

Anonymous kh123 October 26, 2014 9:13 PM  

From the article linked above:

"The irony that he headlines Gamergate as fascism, a totalitarian ideology that denies independent thought, while skewering brands for attempting to distance themselves from the publication that serves the party line is not lost on anyone. Who in their right mind would want to risk a brands billion dollar reputation on a publishing house that cheered the Glenn Beck ad boycott, but then talks shit about any brand wants to distance themselves from them? Gawker... hoped to bankrupt Chick Fil A over charitable donations. Gawker celebrated when Firefox Chief Brendan Eich was ousted because he too had made donation Gawker did not approve of. Boycotts like this are the results of politicising everything, and now it's finally come full circle."

That last line especially.

"...I now believe your brand has to strike first. Stay on top of this story and see where you are listed as an advertising partner. If your brand is not partnering with said site, have them remove your logo immediately... Is your brand representing family values & healthy children? Then maybe a site [i.e., Gawker] discussing a progressive stance on pedophiles and describing the abuse of a seven year old girl as a "sexual relationship" isn't a place where your brand wants to be seen?"

...Yes Tad, Timmy, and the rest of the Tard Barge - there really is a concern for ethics. In more than just journalism.

Anonymous Michael October 26, 2014 9:53 PM  

kh123, "Would figure for basic survival even, and more than just physically.

Is why I thought "toterance" was such a dead-on term to describe the current SJW mission. Sell the rope that hangs them indeed - and they're not even making anything off of it."

Right on. The Marxists go about legitimizing immoral lifestyles and bad ideas in roundabout ways. They know that they cannot convince the majority with direct discourse that their ideology is good. I mean what do they do, openly declare their intention to socialize the country and censor, imprison and eventually kill anyone who opposes them, particularly Christians?

Thus, they must use roundabout ways to push their agenda through. Perversion of definition has allowed them to accuse their opponents of being intolerant while presenting themselves as a rational alternative, in the right by "virtue" of adherence to their creative redefinition of tolerance.

Blogger Duke of Earl October 26, 2014 10:53 PM  

At the moment I'm playing through Final Fantasy 6 on a Gameboy Advance emulator on my phone. The graphics are... old... but the story is entertaining. In my humble opinion, up to FF9 Square could do no wrong, but after that they seemed to turn out great graphics but poor stories.

I don't recall anything particularly SJWish about the FF series, but they were fun to play.

A game doesn't need to make a political statement. It needs to be a good game. If it's possible for someone to make a good game that has a SJW message, fine, but people shouldn't promote bad games with SJW messages and then complain because no one likes them.

Anonymous MontyDraxel October 26, 2014 11:49 PM  

Here is a good history of Video game "journalism" corruption.

http://www.tiki-toki.com/timeline/entry/355300/The-Dirty-History-of-Games-Journalism/

Anonymous Craven October 27, 2014 12:18 AM  

"Thus, they must use roundabout ways to push their agenda through. Perversion of definition has allowed them to accuse their opponents of being intolerant "

The funniest thing about this statement is that you are accusing "Marxists" of doing this. Talk about a perversion of definition.

Anonymous Craven October 27, 2014 12:23 AM  

"If it's possible for someone to make a good game that has a SJW message, fine, but people shouldn't promote bad games with SJW messages and then complain because no one likes them."

I think the people you are calling SJW would say that too many of the games today themselves promote a social and political agenda through the objectification of women that we see in so many of them. They would be right. The question is whether or not that social and political agenda is a worthy one. That seem to be what this tussle is about.

Anonymous kh123 October 27, 2014 12:31 AM  

...Even looking at the handle, you know already. VP hones the equine ejectus radar fairly quick.

Blogger Retrenched October 27, 2014 1:44 AM  

I don't think SJW or "politically correct" messages necessarily have to ruin a game. For instance, Fallout New Vegas had plenty of SJW messages and it was still a fantastic game. But as a general rule, making games, movies, TV shows etc. overly political and preachy is a bad idea, regardless of what that message is.

Blogger Duke of Earl October 27, 2014 2:21 AM  

I think the people you are calling SJW would say that too many of the games today themselves promote a social and political agenda through the objectification of women that we see in so many of them. They would be right. The question is whether or not that social and political agenda is a worthy one. That seem to be what this tussle is about.

I think the issue is more whether or not a female "game designer" should sleep with a reviewer in order to to get a good review for a sub standard game. Most people would regard that as corruption.

Anonymous Shut up rabbit October 27, 2014 3:04 AM  

...the objectification of women that we see in so many of them.

I think you have internalized the matriarchy. Go and watch Thuderf00ts debunkings of Snarkesian's money making scam (the one in which he parodies the smileless-one's style to talk about male disposibilty in video games is a good one) then make me a sammitch.

Anonymous Michael October 27, 2014 7:39 AM  

Craven, "The funniest thing about this statement is that you are accusing 'Marxists' of doing this. Talk about a perversion of definition."

Marxists were responsible for every flavor which comprises political correctness, and since the SJW crowd is all about advancing the PC agenda...

Here's a novel concept: learn to think for yourself.

Anonymous patrick kelly October 27, 2014 12:10 PM  

"They would be right. The question is whether or not that social and political agenda is a worthy one."

The market of game consumers and players declares a resounding "YES !!!". Now go patrol someone elses meme......

Anonymous A. Nonymous October 27, 2014 2:44 PM  

I don't think SJW or "politically correct" messages necessarily have to ruin a game. For instance, Fallout New Vegas had plenty of SJW messages and it was still a fantastic game.

I thought it was pretty terrible, actually, at least from a design standpoint. It starts by failing to make effective use of the setting (seeing Washington D.C. as a deserted wasteland in Fallout 3 is arresting, seeing the Mojave desert as a deserted wasteland, not so much), provides a central location/goal in the eponymous "New Vegas" that totally fails to live up to its own in-game hype, and casually abandons the consistent, alternate-universe-1950s aesthetic of its predecessor in favour of the sort of thoughtless randomness that juxtaposes a Raygun Gothic suit of powered armour with a modern AR-style carbine featuring an ACOG sight and Picatinny rails.

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