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Wednesday, November 26, 2014

There is no welcoming committee

On his personal blog, Castalia House blogger Jeffro observes that the younger generation is learning, often to its dismay, that life isn't quite as simple or welcoming as they were taught it would be by their SJW indoctrinators:
I found out about this sort of thing the hard way talking to a younger dude that was like this. He was edgy and cool, but his brain was somewhat colonized. He somehow got to talking about this thing that happened at his high school… some kid had worn a shirt that was deemed to be across the line by his type and they’d rallied and made it clear that nobody could do that there. I was surprised that he could be so positive about doing something like that. I said, “that’s the difference between my generation and your generation. People like you at least had the sense not to attack free speech back when I was in school….” This assertion that he was basically a product of his times rather than some stripe of free thinker put him into a rage. He started screaming and cursing at me for several minutes. (Yes, he thought himself the voice of tolerance and reason, of course.) It was then that I realized that this “flaming” stuff you see online… it’s not just a product of anonymity and technology. No, some people really are like that….! They actually can’t respond to a difference of opinion with anything but rage.



On being “welcomed” into the hobby — No no no no no! You have no idea how clueless you are. Honestly. It just isn’t like that at all. If you think anyone is going to roll out the red carpet for you then you don’t know anything about gaming. Do you have any idea how merciless competitive chess is? How hard it is to find an opponent for a wargame? Have you ever interviewed people to see if they’d be a good fit for a wacky roleplaying campaign concept you want to try out? Have you ever run a demo at a con and felt the pressure of having to be at least as interesting as the people running a dozen other tables…? Have you played games that other people want to play and then been disappointed that they never reciprocate and play the stuff that you are into…? There is no welcoming committee.
I have to laugh at the idea of being "welcomed" into Advanced Squad Leader. To put it into perspective, the vastly simplified Starter Kit rules are still 12 pages, which doesn't even count the various charts and tables. A lawyer friend once perused the ASLRB and declared that a law degree should be automatically conferred on anyone who demonstrates competence at the game. There is simply no amount of warm fuzzies that is ever going to compensate for having that volume of information thrown at you, and that doesn't begin to take into account that you'll find yourself facing some of the most viciously competitive hardcore gamers once you do command a basic grasp of the rules.

In any activity where the difficulty is part of the enjoyment derived, the very concept of a "welcoming committee" is not so much irrelevant as completely backwards.

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Blogger Markku November 26, 2014 3:38 PM  

A lawyer friend once perused the ASLRB and declared that a law degree should be automatically conferred on anyone who demonstrates competence at the game.

*Eyelid twitches*

Ambiguous use of "perused". Can't tell if the lawyer friend scanned over it, or digged deep into it to learn it thoroughly.

This kind of a thing could send me to a millennial rage...

Anonymous A Visitior November 26, 2014 3:40 PM  

"How hard it is to find an opponent for a wargame? " I had it easy in grad school with that. Many of my classes could be described as wargaming on a grand scale.

"In any activity where the difficulty is part of the enjoyment derived, the very concept of a "welcoming committee" is not so much irrelevant as completely backwards."

In all of my hobbies I've never looked for a welcoming committee. I just dive in.
Happy Thanksgiving to Vox and the Ilk!

Blogger Nate November 26, 2014 4:00 PM  

" This assertion that he was basically a product of his times rather than some stripe of free thinker put him into a rage."

It is difficult to grasp just how collective the millinials really are to an Xer. They are, to my eye, in capable of forming an independent opinion. They literally must confer with their group before they know how to answer any given question. You must deal with them collectively. Individually they are simply incapable. You ask a group of them a quesiton... they sort of... look at each other and through body language decide who is going to speak for them... then that person gives a slow noncommittal answer. Another will then chime in and move the answer slightly to one direction and all the others will then agree and there will be consensus. Only then do you get your answer.

They are literally broken.

Blogger Markku November 26, 2014 4:05 PM  

That's because they are hierarchy-aware. To speak for the group is to presume authority. So, they first want to see if someone will assert authority. They'll, of course, then suffer the repercussions if that person didn't, in fact, have the social capital for it.

Only if nobody will assert it, is it then ok to speak first. Because someone has to. Only then is speaking first not an implicit assertion of authority over the group.

Anonymous tiredofitall November 26, 2014 4:06 PM  

"In any activity where the difficulty is part of the enjoyment derived, the very concept of a "welcoming committee" is not so much irrelevant as completely backwards." - VD

Hence why anti-GG types will never understand the mindset of gamers.

Anonymous Cail Corishev November 26, 2014 4:28 PM  

If you think anyone is going to roll out the red carpet for you then you don’t know anything about gaming.

Heh, no kidding. I gave D&D books to my siblings for Christmas one year, so they'd have to play it with me. I couldn't find players, so I had to make some.

Anonymous Daniel November 26, 2014 4:38 PM  

"brain was somewhat colonized."

The somewhat colonized brain is what I have been observing with great interest the last few months. When given the task of selecting your own research there is a sizeable chunk who will automatically and almost instantaneously select an overt goodthink topic, and will fly into a tolerance rage of confusion if you question its warrants.

So I've been having fun with questions. Always interesting to see one of the shiny-eyed find himself justifying domestic violence on the grounds of equality and cultural diversity.

Anonymous kh123 November 26, 2014 4:38 PM  

"It's... all clear."

On a side note, besides Aspergers, it helps explain one of our favorite drive-by personalities, his inability to handle criticism for a lackluster performance on his own part while simultaneously pointing and shrieking that No!, resident blog owner is inconsequential but nonetheless a horrible writer - and an even more horrible person - because badthink and feelbad. And that this must be made known at every opportunity.

Blogger Markku November 26, 2014 4:38 PM  

The reason for the attitude described in the original post, is solipsism.

Solipsism is seeing the world like a single-person role playing video game. There's the player, who is currently better - or certainly will be better at some point when the game goes on - at everything than everyone else. And then there are the NPC's, who only exist for the player's entertainment. That's everyone else. The solipsist has this mindset, when entering any hobby group.

Lo, the Player has arrived! Your days of meaningless, gray existence are over, and now you get to serve the Player. No, no need for the angelic choir, please. That's for when I reach master level, thank you.

Anonymous Daniel November 26, 2014 4:45 PM  

They are, to my eye, in capable of forming an independent opinion.

Your whole assessment is accurate Nate, but that effect is also what makes the non-conformists among them really stick out. There's one I know who simply gave a paper on DW Griffith's innovations in film without mentioning any "controversy" about Birth of a Nation. A fellow millennial asked about the controversy, looking to stir up a falling back in line. The guy looked at him and said, "That wasn't relevant to my research question." Everyone else looked around as if to decide if they had the strength and consensus to respond.

They did not.

Their most popular band is One Direction after all.

Blogger Feather Blade November 26, 2014 4:47 PM  

Only if nobody will assert it, is it then ok to speak first. Because someone has to. Only then is speaking first not an implicit assertion of authority over the group.

This explains a lot about the art class I'm taking. It also means that I get to be the leader on all group projects - I have no problem asserting authority over the other students. ^_^

Blogger Markku November 26, 2014 4:51 PM  

This explains a lot about the art class I'm taking. It also means that I get to be the leader on all group projects - I have no problem asserting authority over the other students.

That, of course, means that your claim to authority will be challenged at some point, if it hasn't already. By some version of the "who does she think she is?" -gambit. If you survive the challenge, then you will have genuine authority, and everyone will give you the first rights to speaking. The moment of silence will be to wait and see if you'll speak. If you won't, then eventually someone will.

But they will speak in a tone that will make it clear that they don't do this as a challenge to your position, but only because you didn't speak.

Blogger Markku November 26, 2014 4:56 PM  

In a group of men, the second stage would bring peace to the group. Men are comfortable when they know where the group stands, and they know the steps of the dance in preventing that moment of silence being awkward.

Women, however, are irritated by one of them being in authority. So, there will be bitchiness, and it will be permanent.

Blogger Nate November 26, 2014 5:03 PM  

Markku... remember the group dynamics you refer to must be viewed through the eyes of consensus first thinking. The challenge only comes when the individuals within the group are confident they have a consensus to use to attack the outsider.

When the rabbit says "You are a sexist!" they are actually saying, "You are not one of us!"

They instantly assume you will say "I am not a sexist!" and list your qualifications as a not-sexist... which is really you saying "I am one of you! and here is why I am one of you!"

When you look at them and say... "Correct. I am not one of you." They simply have no idea how to process that new input.

Blogger Markku November 26, 2014 5:07 PM  

Yes, I referred to a group that consists of like-minded people. A group that already knows its position, but the problem to solve is, who is the one who should verbalize it. That is where the silence and the looking around comes in.

Anonymous RFS November 26, 2014 5:09 PM  

@Markku

"Ambiguous use of "perused". Can't tell if the lawyer friend scanned over it, or digged deep into it to learn it thoroughly."

You just made my life a little worse, I was much happier thinking that word meant something like "quickly skimmed".

Blogger Markku November 26, 2014 5:11 PM  

You just made my life a little worse, I was much happier thinking that word meant something like "quickly skimmed".

Yeah, it means the exact opposite of that. "Quickly skimmed" is unambiguously wrong.

Anonymous Bz November 26, 2014 5:13 PM  

"Solipsism is seeing the world like a single-person role playing video game."

He he he, I like it.

Blogger JCclimber November 26, 2014 5:21 PM  

Nate said:
"When you look at them and say... "Correct. I am not one of you." They simply have no idea how to process that new input."

It is mind-blowing to them when someone is clearly comfortable and happy while not being a rabbit. You often have discrete inquiries later asking what your secret is. "I've thought about that subject deeply, examined the facts, and realized that what most people think about that in the last 20 years is flat out wrong"

Anonymous Giuseppe November 26, 2014 6:01 PM  

Nate nailed it.
My favourite tactic when faced with a rabbit is similar to Vox, and the level of rudeness/crudeness/cruelty depends on location and context, but it basically goes like this:

1. Rabbit: "that's sexist!"
2. Me: "stop perverting the language with non-words"
3. Rabbit: " sexism is totally a word, you caveman!"
4. Me: "define it then"
5. Rabbit: - logic fail - (mockery and absurdist examples follow from me) - refuses to answer/define it - (mockery and accusations of moral and intellectual cowardice or incompetence in the use of language that is so vast crayons should be considered dangerous for him follows from me) - continues to attack with the same accusation while going into a rage - (calm explanation from me about "milady protesteth too much" followed by mockery for not knowing Shakespeare and also intellectual cowardice, incompetence in language or logic or general relevance)

It's like shooting fish in a frying pan. After they are already cooked. Still. That's about as fun as you can make them.

Blogger kilo papa November 26, 2014 6:05 PM  

What has been disconcerting to me is that all too often Christian responses in the United States to immigration are not different in any substantial way from the responses of those who do not profess the faith. Discussions tend to be limited to protecting national borders and “the American way of life.” There are complaints about the supposed economic costs brought on by added pressures to schools, hospitals, and law enforcement. These are legitimate issues, but there is no explicitly Christian orientation to the debate. If there is, it usually is limited to quoting the call (in Romans 13) to submit to the governing authorities.
What might a more fully biblically informed response to the immigration challenge look like? Where would it begin? The starting place of a discussion determines in large measure its tone and content. If we begin with Genesis 1 and the fact that all humans are created in the image of God with infinite worth and great potential, the debate will be quite different than what is witnessed now in media sound-bites. It will focus on persons with needs and gifts that can contribute to the common good, instead of taking a default negative defensive posture against newcomers in our midst.

Blogger kilo papa November 26, 2014 6:07 PM  

M. Daniel Carroll is the author of the above statement.

O.K. Christards, please resume your regular schedule of masturbating to Fox News.

Blogger Markku November 26, 2014 6:14 PM  

Haha, I went, WTF, kilo papa is speaking in complete sentences, and has a coherent, if mistaken, thought. I actually clicked the screen name to see if this might not perhaps be an impostor.

But it was a quote.

Phew. I was afraid we might have entered the Twilight Zone or something.

Blogger Markku November 26, 2014 6:18 PM  

The short answer is, the same book that prescribes that for men in their yet unfallen state, prescribes a lot of genocide afterwards.

So, genocide is clearly within the confines of the allowed solutions. But we'd prefer it to not come to that if it can be avoided.

Anonymous kh123 November 26, 2014 6:20 PM  

The Unwelcome Committee: All welcome, except those who have reservations about resigning their own dominant culture to a reservation.

No contradiction, really. Because melting pot. Und arbeit macht frei, weißkinder.

Anonymous VD November 26, 2014 6:33 PM  

They instantly assume you will say "I am not a sexist!" and list your qualifications as a not-sexist... which is really you saying "I am one of you! and here is why I am one of you!"

An astute observation.

What has been disconcerting to me is that all too often Christian responses in the United States to immigration are not different in any substantial way from the responses of those who do not profess the faith. Discussions tend to be limited to protecting national borders and “the American way of life.”

(blinks) Actually, that is an excellent point. However, I would point out that the pro-immigration Christian response is equally devoid of theological gravity, let alone soundness. The one atheist critique of American Christianity that is apt is the charge that it is not serious.

Anonymous The Book of Dysgenesis November 26, 2014 6:47 PM  

"Und thou shalt speak in complete sentences, and shall behold the whole of the land, and [looks around the room for approval] it shall be thine, and to those thereafter who number as the stars in heaven. Which are not thy seed actually - silly rabbit - but shall be of another from a distant land, flowing with baby milk factories and relief monies, the birthplace of modern science so we're told. And lo, this multitude shall have access to all thy goods, and all thy cattle, and all thy household, until a mighty voting constituency can be had, you unrepentant racist. This clay shall mix in the pot with the iron of the land, and lo, it was pleasing to the eyes of that generation, especially Chicago - and to a lesser extent Detroit, though this new alloy made for horrible car manufacture. But why worry about infrastructural details at this point. It's the relief that counts."

~ I Millennial 0:00

Anonymous Porphyry November 26, 2014 7:01 PM  

"In a group of men, the second stage would bring peace to the group. Men are comfortable when they know where the group stands, and they know the steps of the dance in preventing that moment of silence being awkward." You are forgetting that everyone in the group feels entitled to complete freedom and unlimited bitches and the gammas function as police officers (or early warning systems) in that regard. Being in charge and being anything other than a sugar daddy who get's his women elsewhere results in chaos. Ever wonder why college kids are entranced by their professors? The game with millenials is to be in charge while pretending not to be, also why they hate acknowledging game (sugar daddies aren't real).

Anonymous The Welcoming Committee November 26, 2014 7:11 PM  

On being “welcomed” into the hobby




There is no welcoming committee.

Sometimes there is.



Welcome to the party, pal!

Anonymous Steve November 26, 2014 7:15 PM  

My favourite tactic, when a wild SJW appears - which is mercifully rare in my social sphere and line of work - is to laugh at them.

They really can't handle honest, hearty masculine laughter. It drives them insane.

I remember a few years ago getting into a one-sided heated discussion with an earnest young man in a pub in Scotland. It was an oil industry drinks do and there was quite a lively crowd. The banter was flowing freely and there was plenty of leg-pulling, flirting and unPC joking. Pretty standard stuff for a UK corporate drinking session. I had made some sort of throwaway comment about immigration or something - I forget the details, but it was exceptionally mild by most normal people's standards, not intended to provoke an argument, just a passing remark on someone else's anecdote.

A young colleague of one of my friends perked up and took great exception to the whiff of badthink, and thought he'd put me on the defensive by accusing me of having said something racist.

I was obviously supposed to backtrack or express contrition or something, and he seemed both surprised and outraged when I said "oh well", smiled, lit a cigarette, and turned to the lady next to me to talk to her instead.

Apparently the young chap was a recent graduate and unaccustomed to having his righteous feelings dismissed, so he launched into an increasingly agitated rant at me while I continued smiling and smoking.

When he got to "and you probably don't even have any black friends, do you???!!!" I couldn't help myself. I burst out laughing into his face, damn near swallowed my Marlboro in mirth. It was such a ridiculous thing to say, in a pub full of white people in Aberdeen of all places. I can only assume he learned that line from television, and was expecting it to be a rhetorical killer blow, like on a very special episode of some American sitcom.

The poor fellow was apoplectic. He stalked off soon afterwards, but the entertainment value he'd given me was tremendous.

Anonymous Porphyry November 26, 2014 7:20 PM  

OT: "Christian response is equally devoid of theological gravity" that's pretty much been my argument for immigration from start: God given right of peoples to land.

Anonymous Titus Didius Tacitus November 26, 2014 7:32 PM  

Jeffro's post is very good.

But there is a sort of welcoming committee if you have friends that game and you're the one that's getting evangelized so they can play. It's only for very good friends who can be trusted not to get pouty when they're crushed and back-stabbed over and over and over, and it's called the learn as you burn system.

I learned many nice games in this way, including chess, which I eventually settled on. I don't know what I would have done without friends who, out of the goodness of their hearts, were willing to break their alliances with me, trick me with misleading treaties, reduce me to a dead, burned-out hulk in space, and take all my pieces and pawns, over and over till I realized I needed to prioritize and raise my standard at something.

Magnus Carlsen, giving his friends the treatment, the same way it was done for me: "Too weak, too slow!"

Seriously, friends like that make life worth living.

Was anyone else here privileged to get one of these learn as you burn deals?

Anonymous Titus Didius Tacitus November 26, 2014 7:51 PM  

Off-topic: the champ retained his title despite being in less-than-great shape.

Blogger rcocean November 26, 2014 8:08 PM  

"What has been disconcerting to me is that all too often Christian responses in the United States to immigration are not different in any substantial way from the responses of those who do not profess the faith."

That's because Christianity, to use a legal term is "Silent on the issue". What's truly Un-Christian and nauseating are the pro-illegal immigrants trying to use the Bible to support their oddball position. The Huckster made me throw up with his "Good Samaritan" basis for supporting illegal immigration.

Blogger rcocean November 26, 2014 8:10 PM  

The men who built this country were Christians, or kept their non-belief to themselves, as were the men who supported immigration restriction.

Blogger rcocean November 26, 2014 8:11 PM  

Has any politician that based his political position on the Bible been honest and sincere? I doubt it.

Blogger Nate November 26, 2014 8:14 PM  

"
(blinks) Actually, that is an excellent point."

No it isn't. All it is, is one man's emotional plea that we Christians are not giving away our nation. Governments and People are not the same. Christ addresses one over and over again. He never addresses the other. I note, not one single time, did Jesus extort the kings to be more generous.

Blogger Herb Nowell November 26, 2014 8:14 PM  

My welcome to Squad Leader (not ASL but the original game) was pretty much having my ass handed to me.

Same with Starship Troopers (the original AH one), Panzer Leader, Starforce, and a ton of others.

I don't think I won more than 1 in 10 my first few years in the hobby.

Anonymous VD November 26, 2014 8:21 PM  

All it is, is one man's emotional plea that we Christians are not giving away our nation.

Not that point. The point that the serious theological discussion very seldom enters into the debate, except in the superficial way previously mentioned.

Anonymous Porphyry November 26, 2014 8:23 PM  

"Governments and People are not the same." That doesn't change the fact that the earth is irrevocably tied to peoples. Or if you like environment is integral to genetic evolution.

Blogger Nate November 26, 2014 8:30 PM  

"The point that the serious theological discussion very seldom enters into the debate, except in the superficial way previously mentioned."

That's because it is not a theological question.

Blogger Nate November 26, 2014 8:30 PM  

Its rather like complaining that christians do math precisely the same way non christians do math.

Blogger Nate November 26, 2014 8:32 PM  

"That doesn't change the fact that the earth is irrevocably tied to peoples. Or if you like environment is integral to genetic evolution."

off topic and irrelevant.

Blogger Cataline Sergius November 26, 2014 8:51 PM  

If you want an inhospitable entry, try DOTA 2.

It was so bad that, Valve actually setup a kind of foster brother mentoring group for new players.

Blogger Doom November 26, 2014 9:18 PM  

Welcoming committee? Red carpet? I think a punch in the nose, a sucker punch, the old boy club keeping you down if they could, and such, was what I was met with in the world of men. If that didn't break you, but more if you could give better than you got, that is what got me in most doors. Yeah, sure, someone sometimes lost consciousness, feeling in a limb, needed stitches or surgery, figuratively if often enough literally, but... how else is there to play? Sometimes it even got serious too. Ah, such fine memories.

I suppose in a day when men ask their girlfriends what they can do, carry man-purses, talk and text all the time, and dream of an easy life, I shouldn't expect more.

Blogger Bogey November 26, 2014 9:24 PM  

Advanced Squad Leader looks crazy overwhelming to me. Speaking of strategy games, I wouldn't mind seeing a list of some of your favorite computer strategy games. Huge steam sale, at the moment.

Blogger Markku November 26, 2014 9:46 PM  

If someone hasn't played it already, then get X-COM: UFO Defense. 1.69€ for me, so it's probably around 1.70 USD for you Americans.

Then, get Open Xcom, which fixes all the bugs, especially those related to playing a nineties game with a modern PC. The files it will need, are in [Steam install directory]\steamapps\common\xcom ufo defense\XCOM after you have purchased the original from Steam.

Blogger Doom November 26, 2014 10:22 PM  

Markku,

+10 Love that murderous game. The whole series, that I know of anyway.

Blogger Bogey November 26, 2014 10:23 PM  

Actually 1.69 here in the states. Put that in my cart. Looking for a pure combat type strategy, Company of Heroes has high marks on Steam.

Blogger John Wright November 26, 2014 10:46 PM  

One advantage of being an old-fashioned fellow, is that when I say 'peruse' everyone knows I mean it in the older and original meaning of the word, which means to examine with great care, to memorize. 'Scan' means to read quickly.

Other Janus words, however, are merely puzzling. I admit to finding such words delicious, for I wonder what it is in the human mind that requires we invent more ambiguity in our words than need be:

Cleave means either to cut in two or to embrace into one ("cleave to her, forsaking all others"); To weather can mean "to endure" or "to erode" ;
Sanction can mean "to allow" or "to prohibit." (or murder); Fix can mean "a solution" (as in "find a quick fix") or "a problem" ("left us in a fix"); Clip can mean "to separate" (as in "clip the coupon from the paper") or "to join" (as in "clip the answer sheets together"); Wear can mean "to last under use" or "to erode under use" ; Buckle can mean "to fasten" or "to bend and then break" ; the verb bolt can mean "to secure, lock" or "to start suddenly and run away." (the difference between bolting a door and a horse bolting); Screen can mean "to conceal" or "to show." Fast can mean "moving quickly" (as in "running fast") or "not moving" (as in "fast friends" or "stuck fast").

Anonymous Anonymous November 26, 2014 11:42 PM  

Welcoming? "Snipe Hunting" and "Egyptian Ratscrew" come to mind...but then, I'm an 80's child.

Blogger Nate November 27, 2014 12:06 AM  

Mr Wright... and now you have explained precisely why english is such an abomination.

Anonymous Wyrd November 27, 2014 12:34 AM  

Not so much an abomination as a flee-ridden mutt. Durable but hardly elegant.

Blogger Doom November 27, 2014 1:24 AM  

Mr. Wright,

Why ambiguity? Why not. It is the puzzle that reminds us that we are alive. Even when I try to square that circle, I fail miserably. For a time I just reveled in it. I have tried to right (no pun intended, mind you) my ways, but find that I am stuck with my nature and men who cannot or will not know. Not to mention dames. They are easier, mind you. Aim at what they want and they will hear it. Regardless of the bear trap between them and it. *grins*

I don't think English is a practice, it's an art. Which way you go with it, should you learn it proper, your intent is the key. Never worry, you won't be understood though. Not even with the simplest, truest, intent. So... go away or I shall taunt you a second time.

Urhm, if you catch my meaning.

Blogger IM2L844 November 27, 2014 2:00 AM  

From a Christian perspective, God sets a pretty good standard for immigration. There is a clear path to citizenship. All are encouraged to apply, but there are rigorous vetting protocols as well as very strict border enforcement. You must wait your turn and not everyone will qualify. Sob stories are insufficient. Simple.

Anonymous Shut up rabbit November 27, 2014 2:37 AM  

Not to get all Four Yorkshiremen on the subject but...When I was a lad you had to make up your own rules to play with your Airfix models. If you were lucky enough to get your hands on an obscure wargaming magazine, you could send off for a (text only) catalog which would take weeks to arrive. Once you’d saved up your pocket money and sent of your order (with a postal order you had to go to the post office for) you’d wait four more weeks for the stuff to arrive. Printed rules, if there were any, were barely legible, photocopies exercises in linguistic interpretation.
And don’t forget the computer games that consisted of hundreds of lines of could you’d type into your computer then spend hours debugging as the invariably contained typos in the source code.
But we had fun...

Nowadays, the underpaid hipsters will blow you to make you buy an iPoop, all the games are free and you can even pay to win if it’s too hard AND THEY STILL COMPLAIN!!!

Anonymous Wyrd November 27, 2014 2:45 AM  

First up for this Turkey Day MST3K Marathon: Sidehackers.

"Rommel, you magnificent bastard! I read your books!"

Anonymous Discobolus November 27, 2014 3:59 AM  

It is no coincidence these degenerates are women and girly men. They are too weak to rebel without excuse and risk being shunned, so they must make new morals and new groups so they can have moral superiority and the ability to shun those that would shun them. Women fight with social ostracization, Men fight with truth.

Happy Thanksgiving.

Anonymous FP November 27, 2014 4:12 AM  

"First up for this Turkey Day MST3K Marathon: Sidehackers."

Thanks, I forgot about that. It was great last year. They're looping Manos till it starts later today.

Anonymous Wyrd November 27, 2014 4:28 AM  

They're looping Manos till it starts later today.

Fudge Manos, the next episode is Time Of The Apes in honor of Darren Wilson and the Ferguson community.

Blogger Markku November 27, 2014 4:41 AM  

Ohhh crap. Peruse=scan is in the newest Webster edition already, as an officially sanctioned alternative meaning.

*eyelid twitches more*

Blogger Markku November 27, 2014 4:48 AM  

And so does OED. So, it's now officially a word that can mean two opposite things, with no clues in use or context, which is meant.

Oh, great.

Anonymous Orville November 27, 2014 6:25 AM  

And contrary to what Nate says about English being an abomination, my Anglocentic view is that it is the thinking man's language since context is so critical to understanding which way the word goes. That is what I see lacking in so many, a complete disregard for context, whether it's reading the bible or anything else.

Anonymous Porphyry November 27, 2014 12:19 PM  

"off topic and irrelevant." nah even you should know that's wrong 'specially on thxgiving.

Anonymous Porphyry November 27, 2014 12:31 PM  

@Nate
int main(){
!(String language== String code);
anyways argument2;
argument2(code);
}
class anyways(String code){
if(code){
overloadedoperators();
reasignablevariables();
}
}

Anonymous Porphyry November 27, 2014 12:45 PM  

"Ohhh crap. Peruse=scan is in the newest Webster edition already, as an officially sanctioned alternative meaning." In my experience peruse is identifiable by placing on accent on the first or second syllable if one says PERuse they generally mean the original definition and if one says perUSE they generally mean the modern one.

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