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Tuesday, December 09, 2014

Banker #36, the Belgian

Zerohedge reports that the body of yet another banker has been found:
52-year-old Belgian Geert Tack - a private banker for ING who managed portfolios for wealthy individuals - was described as 'impeccable', 'sporty', 'cared-for', and 'successful' and so as Vermist reports, after disappearing a month ago, the appearance of his body off the coast of Ostend is surrounded by riddles. and was found dead this weekend off the coast of Ostend.
No report of nailgun, but there is some strangeness concerning his use of automobiles in the time leading up to his disappearance. And there is a possible # 37 in London:
A banker has died after becoming impaled on railings after falling 60ft from the window of a luxury penthouse in central London, which is next door to John Lennon's former home. Police were called to the exclusive block of flats in Montagu Square in Marylebone at about 5.20pm yesterday, but were unable to save the man who was in his early fifties.

Firefighters had to help police cut through the five foot high metal railings with an angle grinder, as part of attempts to free the man. Metropolitan Police said the man's death was not being treated as suspicious but confirmed enquiries were being carried out into the circumstances surrounding his death.

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Blogger grendel December 09, 2014 1:05 PM  

I just have to say that this all sounds like some Tom Kratman type stuff. If a suspicious nuclear blast kills a passel of bankers in the not so distant future, my hunch will be confirmed.

Anonymous fish December 09, 2014 1:15 PM  

Need to have a cutout between you and your money. Looks like Mr. Tack took one for the team.

Anonymous Will Best December 09, 2014 1:17 PM  

I know this is fun and all, but has there been any analysis in whether this is historically out of line for the profession?

Anonymous farmer Tom December 09, 2014 1:18 PM  

Time to play some Queen,.....

Another One Bites the Dust

Anonymous Profit December 09, 2014 1:19 PM  

When does the hunting season open and where can I get my banker-tags?

Anonymous jay c December 09, 2014 1:22 PM  

European banks ought to be offering hazardous duty pay by now.

Anonymous fish December 09, 2014 1:24 PM  

When does the hunting season open and where can I get my banker-tags?


I think they're considered an invasive nuisance/pest species! No permit required.

Knock yourself out!

Anonymous Aeoli Pera December 09, 2014 1:43 PM  

Obligatory.

Blogger JDC December 09, 2014 1:45 PM  

I just have to say that this all sounds like some Tom Kratman type stuff.

I was thinking along the same lines, except the Tom that popped into my brain was Clancy. Just finished one of his books where a duo of American assassins go around sticking poison pens into terrorists bottoms. What's at the root of these mysterious deaths may ever remain a mystery, but it certainly seems that something nefarious is going on...if you consider the deaths of bankers nefarious that is.

Anonymous AVG December 09, 2014 1:52 PM  

Vox; why don't you also write about the nefarious and shadowy plot against dentists?

Anonymous Porky December 09, 2014 1:52 PM  

I know this is fun and all, but has there been any analysis in whether this is historically out of line for the profession?

Why can't you just enjoy it?

Anonymous Aeoli Pera December 09, 2014 2:10 PM  

Anyone know whether these guys are disproportionately Jewish or goyim?

Anonymous Aeoli Pera December 09, 2014 2:13 PM  

I ask because this has the outward appearance of a mafia war. Could be racial, could be global vs. local, could be something else. Banking isn't my forte (I can barely keep track of which kind of checking account I have), but it seems like no one else is asking this sort of question.

Anonymous Aeoli Pera December 09, 2014 2:14 PM  

Last thought: I don't think it's a coincidence that this sort of thing would happen at the same time as all the hijinks with the gold supplies (not to mention the oil).

Anonymous Alexander December 09, 2014 2:16 PM  

Grendel wins the thread in one. Well played, and I concur.

Anonymous harry12 December 09, 2014 2:22 PM  

Just in case y'all missed it:

Here

Anonymous Rantor December 09, 2014 2:22 PM  

One of the metal sites had a source predicting deaths of dozens of bankers last February... which appeared to be paranoid fantasy crap back then. Predicted deaths were supposedly connected to metal and currency trading.

Blogger Rabbi B December 09, 2014 2:24 PM  

Curiouser and curiouser ....

Anonymous Titus Didius Tacitus December 09, 2014 2:25 PM  

The man said: "I want no risk in the portfolio."

Anonymous BluntForceTrauma December 09, 2014 2:27 PM  

The fundamental premise that the world's bankers are panicking in advance of some, as yet, unknown financial calamity needs to be countered by whether their "suicide" rates are above average relative to other occupations.

I'm surprised Vox has long left this challenge unrebutted.

Anonymous Aeoli Pera December 09, 2014 2:32 PM  

>I'm surprised Vox has long left this challenge unrebutted.

He's not making a statistical claim. This challenge is equivalent to saying "It is not suspicious for a man to commit suicide with a nail gun, because lots of men commit suicide."

Blogger Rabbi B December 09, 2014 2:39 PM  

" . . . the appearance of his body off the coast of Ostend is surrounded by riddles. and was found dead this weekend off the coast of Ostend."

Cade:

I thank you, good people—there shall be no money; all shall eat
and drink on my score, and I will apparel them all in one livery,
that they may agree like brothers, and worship me their lord.

Dick:

The first thing we do, let's kill all the bankers.

Blogger Northern Hamlet December 09, 2014 2:53 PM  

Aeoli Pera,

He's not making a statistical claim. This challenge is equivalent to saying "It is not suspicious for a man to commit suicide with a nail gun, because lots of men commit suicide."

Whilst a nail gun is not a typical form of suicide, it is used sometimes. Now, you could call into question those suicides as well, but it's fair to ask whether the banker stats are in line with their profession generally, thus dispelling any concern that a trend has developed.

I suspect Vox has ignored this question because not much historical data exists pertaining to the question, but that we can at least raise an eyebrow at the number of higher profile deaths as of recent.

I did find this article http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/8147392/
indicating slight elevated suicide risk for those in the financial industry, but I can't access the specifics.

Also, there was the duffle bag guy which... I have a hard time understanding.

Blogger Rabbi B December 09, 2014 2:56 PM  

"Banker #36, The Belgian"

Heh . . . sounds like an episode from The Blacklist.

The Belgian #36

Anonymous Aeoli Pera December 09, 2014 3:25 PM  

>I did find this article http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/8147392/
indicating slight elevated suicide risk for those in the financial industry, but I can't access the specifics.

I repeat: it's not a statistical claim.

>but it's fair to ask whether the banker stats are in line with their profession generally, thus dispelling any concern that a trend has developed.

It is not fair. Even if there were fewer suicides among bankers than in other years we'd still be having this conversation, because the nail gun thing was obviously a murder that was subsequently covered up.

Blogger Vox December 09, 2014 3:26 PM  

The fundamental premise that the world's bankers are panicking in advance of some, as yet, unknown financial calamity needs to be countered by whether their "suicide" rates are above average relative to other occupations.

It doesn't "need" anything of the sort. If you want to do the research to rebut, by all means, go ahead.

Anonymous Aeoli Pera December 09, 2014 3:29 PM  

Before continuing, maybe I should ask you to compute the average of a few numbers. I refuse to debate an Elizabot again.

Try these: 4, 6, 7, 3, 10. What's the average?

Blogger Northern Hamlet December 09, 2014 3:44 PM  

Aeoli Pera,

Go back and read what I wrote. If that's not sufficient to address your comments, try a beer.

Anonymous Aeoli Pera December 09, 2014 3:45 PM  

Compute the average, retard.

Anonymous Stickwick December 09, 2014 3:47 PM  

This is like something out of The Black Adder:

Harry: Yes, that's right. A tragic accident.
Edmund: Almost as tragic as Archbishop Bertram being struck by a falling gargoyle whilst swimming off Beachy Head.
Harry: Yes, or Archbishop Wilfred slipping and falling backwards onto the spire of Norwich Cathedral. Oh, Lord, you do work in mysterious ways.

Edmund: I took over the previous electorate when he, very sadly, accidentally brutally cut his head off while combing his hair.

Anonymous Huckleberry -- est. 1977 December 09, 2014 3:58 PM  

If anyone's interested, I've reformatted this list, found a 37th possible entry, and listed each death's date, the person's title, a link, and the circumstances surrounding the death here.

Anonymous dantealiegri December 09, 2014 4:09 PM  

For someone trying to downplay the whole situation, the hardest part is how unusual all the deaths have been.

The water ones are particularity odd.

Anonymous Krul December 09, 2014 4:12 PM  

A banker has died after becoming impaled on railings after falling 60ft from the window of a luxury penthouse in central London, which is next door to John Lennon's former home. Police were called to the exclusive block of flats in Montagu Square in Marylebone at about 5.20pm yesterday, but were unable to save the man who was in his early fifties.

I can just imagine that rescue attempt.

Firefighter 1: "Shit, he's still alive."

Firefighter 2: "Anybody got any cards?"

Blogger LP 999/Eliza December 09, 2014 4:14 PM  

Oh God, back in history this is the week of John Lennon's death, right? The 8th?

I have felt a strong disturbance in the force field but its not bankers its suicides by cops skyrocketing. I hope to be proven wrong.

Blogger LP 999/Eliza December 09, 2014 4:15 PM  

Yep, the ambulance was called and they were on a break. But for us, no matter where I run, the ambulance is in 4 minutes of me.

Anonymous jack December 09, 2014 4:25 PM  

If you can't set up plausible deniability then dead men tell no tales.

Usually.....

Blogger Alexander December 09, 2014 4:30 PM  

Well if it's not Kratman, then I'm kicking it up higher. Clearly, we have much to be grateful for this Christmas season.

Anonymous BluntForceTrauma December 09, 2014 4:30 PM  

Googling "suicide rates by profession" yields quite a few links as starting point. "Financial workers" are #3 on the list, according to one report, exceeded by dentists and doctors, numbers 2 and 1, respectively.

For Aeoli's sake, it should be noted that asking about average suicide rates by profession and asking about rates of deaths under suspicious circumstances are two different categories.

Vox can't be bothered — in this case! — with statistics. He's made up his mind, via anecdotal evidence, about the truth of his proposition. I think he's being conspiratorial and inflammatory for the hell of it.

Huckleberry, thanks much for your contribution.

Anonymous Anubis December 09, 2014 4:35 PM  

Are any of the 37 dead bankers kosher?

Anonymous dantealiegri December 09, 2014 4:37 PM  

@BluntForceTrauma -
the by profession is not super useful here, because we're talking about a subgroup - mostly C suite, and those most likely factors in floor traders.

If you wanted to be useful, and not snarky, you could try to do something like what Huckleberry linked to - but for say, 1997 and 1987. But why go for the win, when you can just pretend like it?

Blogger LP 999/Eliza December 09, 2014 4:40 PM  

My 1998 lesabre went down with a fight 5 days ago.

The brakes failed, I threw it in L to N. It was not a wreck, no one was around to help me. Of course, I wont get a cell phone making things worse. My car insurer said that b/c I survived they are giving me a 5 year break on all car insurance and paperwork. I had to give up my buick for $300, regardless of the brake problem, the exhaust was like a tank driving by.

Upon trading that in for a 2001 toyota with 59900 miles on. It was owned by a segway family that married into dads family, making me a 2nd cousin to them. Anyways, I was able to pay with no debt a simply $5000 for the econo box. So far, I am living in peace and coolness, the gas gauge has not budged a bit. It is still running on nearly fulltank of gas.

Now I just owe amex 5400. the minor $400 was shopping, meds, food, etc

Anonymous BluntForceTrauma December 09, 2014 4:47 PM  

Fair point, Dante, so we'd be looking for suicide rates for executives?

I think attempting to inject reasonableness and fair-mindedness into this discussion is "useful."

And I don't feel the need to go for the "win," nor to go all "aspie" and drill down into minutiae to prove something that nobody really cares about.

Vox casually, and without support, makes a proposition and I, casually and with only minimally more support, counter that it doesn't pass the smell test.

Anonymous Aeoli Pera December 09, 2014 4:53 PM  

>For Aeoli's sake, it should be noted that asking about average suicide rates by profession and asking about rates of deaths under suspicious circumstances are two different categories.

Thanks for that, for what it's worth, although it would be a lot better for my sanity if someone else in the universe could demonstrate the ability to do very simple arithmetic problems. It's very disconcerting to observe the opposite on a regular basis.

Anonymous Aeoli Pera December 09, 2014 5:05 PM  

This is not to say LP 999/Eliza is chopped liver, having demonstrated basic arithmetic two comments previous.

Actually, ya know what, I'm sick of trying to avoid offending neuro-normies. I'm going to get drunk and talk to myself instead.

Where's Outlaw X when you need him? That guy's got enough sense for both of us. I'm feeling really damned lonely.

Goodnight folks.

Anonymous BluntForceTrauma December 09, 2014 5:10 PM  

Cheers, Aeoli!

And, um . . . Eliza? Maybe spend just a little bit more on meds? Glad your car, at least, is running on a full tank.

Anonymous NateM December 09, 2014 5:10 PM  

"his body off the coast of Ostend is surrounded by riddles."

Have Batman go catch Edward Nygma

Anonymous innumerate and proud of it December 09, 2014 5:12 PM  

You math fetishists are annoying oblivious to the point of this post: it isn't about statistics, it's about well-deserved and long-overdue schadenfreud. Go ply your filthy habit elsewhere.

Anonymous Axe Head December 09, 2014 5:23 PM  

The first thing we do, let's kill all the bankers.

Journalists first, then most lawyers, then the bankers.

Blogger Northern Hamlet December 09, 2014 5:41 PM  

Aeoli Pera

I'm going to get drunk and talk to myself instead.

You're always in good company here.

[raises glass]

Anonymous Mycroft Jones December 09, 2014 5:42 PM  

Alternative theory to the banker "suicides".

1) They aren't panicing.
2) They are being picked off by an intelligence agency.

Snowden said one of the things that changed him, was when he discovered one of the bankers being used by the CIA to funnel money to "terrorist" groups.

Surely there are more than a few bankers involved in illegal money laundering, whether CIA drug money, or sending money to "terrorist" front groups and other progressive "resistance" groups.

If so, this would mean the banker killing is either

A) CIA cover its tracks
B) other governments cutting off the CIA ability to do such secret funding.

Blogger Robert What? December 09, 2014 6:16 PM  

Of course the big question is: are these killings some form of revenge, or are they because these banksters knew too much?

Anonymous Dr. Doom December 09, 2014 7:16 PM  

How much money got lost after the Meltdown in 2008? The Euro is not looking very good lately, and the Dollar looks like something the cat dragged in. Where does a con man keep his ill gotten gains now that the play money is worthless? Can you live in a Plastic Hotel?
Only so much lucre left, and you know there's never enough to go around. After all, not everyone can be Rich, but nobody wants to hold the bag while someone else gets the money, right?

Blogger James Dixon December 09, 2014 8:42 PM  

Try these: 4, 6, 7, 3, 10. What's the average?

The mean, mode, or median? :)

Blogger Retrenched December 09, 2014 9:20 PM  

Gee it's almost as if there's a pattern here or something

Anonymous Aeoli Pera December 09, 2014 10:40 PM  

Mycroft, you crazy bastard, where the fuck have you been? Are you still eating nothing but potatoes?

>You're always in good company here.

You're absolutely killing me. You should do speeches for AA, I bet you'd work miracles.

>The mean, mode, or median? :)

God damn it all, the mean. Anyway, both the mean and median are 6, and there is no mode. Apparently only Mr. Seagram is interested in my mental health.

Anonymous Mycroft Jones December 10, 2014 4:26 AM  

Aeoli, good to see you too. Haven't done the potato thing for the past couple months, but the weight stayed off! I'm going back on it though, 40 pounds to go. Just as soon as I master this 100% sourdough rye bread; 2 weeks in, the sourdough culture is making some pretty tasty muffins, even without salt and sugar added. 3 minutes in the microwave and they're done. Rye has its quirks, but also some properties that make it nice and easy to work with. There isn't any "altered" rye on the market, as far as I could determine, so it is pure original food, the way God made it.

Back to the topic at hand: Snowden disclosed a LOT of info. Then there was the leak of the diplomatic cable. What are the odds some foreign intelligence agency combed through them, figured out who the financial gateways were, and is now wiping them out one by one?

Blogger Danby December 10, 2014 2:00 PM  

@Anubis
"Are any of the 37 dead bankers kosher?"

I don't think so. Bankers have cloven feet.

Blogger LP 999/Eliza December 10, 2014 6:02 PM  

A Pera, we do need outlw x or X, where is he?

Blogger LP 999/Eliza December 10, 2014 6:06 PM  

I doubt it but I wonder if maybe the bankers are going dead since gas is low, their oil derivatives are in question. Mid life crisis for all we know.

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