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Saturday, December 13, 2014

Honor the martyrs

Christianity is being eradicated in the Middle East by the religion of the sword:
Four young Christians were brutally beheaded by ISIS in Iraq for refusing to convert to Islam, according to a British reverend forced to flee the country. Canon Andrew White, known as the Vicar of Baghdad, told the horrifying story how of the youths, all under 15, were murdered for standing up to the jihadists.

The vicar of the city’s St George's Church, the only Anglican church in the whole of Iraq, has had to leave the country for Israel amid constant threats on his life by Islamic State. In a harrowing interview with the Orthodox Christian Network, he said ISIS had killed ‘huge numbers’ of believers in Jesus.

‘Islamic State turned up and said to the children, “you say the words that you will follow Mohammad”’, he said, his voice cracking with emotion.

‘The children, all under 15, four of them, said “no, we love Yesua; we have always loved Yesua; we have always followed Yesua; Yesua has always been with us”.

‘They [ISIS] said, “Say the words.” They [the children] said, “No, we can't”.

‘They chopped all their heads off. How do you respond to that? You just cry. They are my children. That is what we have been going through and that is what we are going through.'
Honor the faith of the four young martyrs by reaffirming your own. And note this: "Iraq had 1.5 million Christians before the US-led invasion in 2003, but now all that are left are 250,000 who have been displaced from their homes in the north of the country by the advance of ISIS."

Eventually, there will be those who can do more than cry. I suspect it will not be more than 20 years before the new Martel appears and the Reconquista 2.0 begins. The Tenth Crusade will be fought in the West, in both Europe and America, and it will last decades.

The Norwegians are already taking action. The Swedes are waking up. The French are actively voting. And the Germans are rising. Slowly but surely, they are waking up. "The latest PEGIDA march on Monday drew up to 10,000 people."  PEGIDA stands for Patriotische Europäer Gegen die Islamisierung des Abendlandes. Patriotic Europeans Against the Islamicization of the West.

And soon the Saxon will begin to hate. That is when the anti-Western politicians will be removed from power. That is when the Western nations will rise. And that is when Enoch Powell's long-predicted Rivers of Blood will begin to flow.
The supreme function of statesmanship is to provide against preventable evils. In seeking to do so, it encounters obstacles which are deeply rooted in human nature.

One is that by the very order of things such evils are not demonstrable until they have occurred: at each stage in their onset there is room for doubt and for dispute whether they be real or imaginary. By the same token, they attract little attention in comparison with current troubles, which are both indisputable and pressing: whence the besetting temptation of all politics to concern itself with the immediate present at the expense of the future.

Above all, people are disposed to mistake predicting troubles for causing troubles and even for desiring troubles.... As I look ahead, I am filled with foreboding; like the Roman, I seem to see "the River Tiber foaming with much blood." That tragic and intractable phenomenon which we watch with horror on the other side of the Atlantic but which there is interwoven with the history and existence of the States itself, is coming upon us here by our own volition and our own neglect. Indeed, it has all but come.
Now it has come. The statesmen of the West have failed. The preventable evils were not prevented. Now they must play out, as history shows that they have always played out.

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Blogger Michael Maier December 13, 2014 5:55 AM  

13 years of escalated Middle East adventures and there are still Christians left there? That is what surprises me.

RIP, beloved sons. Well-done.

Anonymous Action Bronson December 13, 2014 5:57 AM  

Would flaying those beheaders alive be considered torture?

Anonymous Truth revolt December 13, 2014 6:10 AM  

I blame Western imperialist foreign policy for those deaths.

Anonymous Action Bronson December 13, 2014 6:12 AM  

Would flaying those beheaders alive be considered torture?

Blogger Tommy Hass December 13, 2014 6:18 AM  

There is absolutely nothing more annoying than the Charles Martel worship around these parts.

I know that he beat the Moors at Tours. But why is it that those who phantacize about spilling Muslim blood always venerate him and not Vlad Tepes or Jan Sobieski or El Cid?

"Reconcquista". Oh my God...

I cannot believe that there are people who wish to spill blood of a group 1 billion strong for the deeds of a group of thousand.

I wish the surrounding powers would collude to exterminate these roaches so we could finally see an end to the sabre rattling. Hell you have the capability to do it yourself. It was caused by you.

The Apocalypse cannot come fast enough.

PS: It's almost like ISIL are a front created to gin up hate.

Anonymous PhillipGeorge©2014 December 13, 2014 6:34 AM  

It is a simple enough quid pro quo proposition. No new building approvals for any Islamic cultural or religious buildings in any Western nation until approval for the building of one similar facility in Pakistan, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Iraq, Libya, Egypt etc. etc. etc.

Ie. a total building ban in all Western Nations until Islam is perfectly examined exposed and thus expunged.

If it wasn't for intellectual press retards multiculturalism would not exist

Anonymous Boogeyman December 13, 2014 6:38 AM  

"I cannot believe that there are people who wish to spill blood of a group 1 billion strong for the deeds of a group of thousand."

Tens of thousands fight while the billion others cheer them on. War ends when one side loses the will to fight, so the war won't end until the cheering stops.

Blogger Vox December 13, 2014 6:42 AM  

But why is it that those who phantacize about spilling Muslim blood always venerate him and not Vlad Tepes or Jan Sobieski or El Cid?

What makes you think they don't? You are failing to understand the point. Those of us who are reluctant to shed blood venerate Martel. Those who are eager to do it venerate Tepes. I am warning you about them.

And El Cid is too literary.

Tommy, read VDH on the Western Way of War sometime. Or pick up the new anthology when it comes out tomorrow. Annihilation is the Western way of war. That is why Westerners are much more reluctant to engage in it than Easterners.

Also, no one wants to wipe out Islam in the East. Remember, even the idiot neocons said "we're fighting them over there so we don't have to fight them over here". Well, the neocons failed, as I and many others predicted, so what is the logical conclusion. Correct, now we have to fight them over here.

In the long term, either Islam will rule the West or there will be no Islam in the West. And once Christianity is wiped out in the Middle East, there will be no moral defense against Islam being similarly wiped out in the West. That is the lesson of history. Why do you find hard to believe what Enoch Powell warned against decades ago?

It's almost like ISIL are a front created to gin up hate

That may be. But they exist, and the hatred and impatience is rapidly rising. That is why the time to either convert or leave is approaching. Preferably the former, Jesus genuinely being Lord and Savior, after all.

Blogger Northern Hamlet December 13, 2014 6:52 AM  

A prayer for those young boys and their strength in the Lord.

Anonymous zen0 December 13, 2014 6:59 AM  

@ Tommy Hass

I cannot believe that there are people who wish to spill blood of a group 1 billion strong for the deeds of a group of thousand.

Nobody believes that silly line anymore, Tommy. According to this video which takes the time to go through most of the muslim countries in the world and their beliefs, claims 32% of Turks believe honor killing is justifiable in families. It concludes by pointing out the number of radicalized muslims in the world adds up to 800 million, not a few thousand.

Your disinformation campaign is encountering headwinds.

Anonymous Stilicho December 13, 2014 7:00 AM  

Tommy boy, we have certainly stirred the pot over there, but you cockroaches are in such a hurry to escape the hells you create for yourselves that we are suddenly inundated with you in our own countries. If you were wise, you would consider your invitation revoked, but we all know you won't. You'll hang around, barking incessantly and making messes on the floor until you are forcibly shown the door. If you're lucky.

Blogger Tommy Hass December 13, 2014 7:02 AM  

"Ie. a total building ban in all Western Nations until Islam is perfectly examined exposed and thus expunged."

That is a non sequitur if I've ever seen one.

I also believe you overestimate the hatred Islamic nations have for Christians. A couple of churches more won't faze anyone. It's the proselytizing that pisses people off.

"Tens of thousands fight while the billion others cheer them on. War ends when one side loses the will to fight, so the war won't end until the cheering stops."

I know this is very stereotypical of me to say but this is a LIE. A lie you tell yourself because it makes your conscience go away.

Saying muslims don't care enough to protest in the streets against ISIS would be closer to reality. But there is no basis for your asinine claim that a large majority of the Islamic community supports ISS. Hell, Iran even bombed them.

The largest Islamic nation is Indonesia. I hope you don't believe that ISIS enjoy broad support there.

"What makes you think they don't?"

Martel gets mentioned way more often.

"Annihilation is the Western way of war."

Maybe I am too literal minded, but what is an example of such a war? I can't think of any war that the west has waged that could be said to have lead to their enemies' annihilation.

USA vs Japan?

If you speak about a repeat of 1492, that was also WAAAY short of annihilation. It was downright...buraeucratic.

"In the long term, either Islam will rule the West or there will be no Islam in the West."

I disagree. If Muslims accept a role that Christians have to accept in the Orient, it would be easily viable. Or not?

You also ignore that the West isn't really Christian anymore.

Blogger Tommy Hass December 13, 2014 7:08 AM  

Accidentally hit the post button.

"Why do you find hard to believe what Enoch Powell warned against decades ago?"

Stuff like the Troubles, but with Pakis and English, I interpreted it to be.

"According to this video which takes the time to go through most of the muslim countries in the world and their beliefs, claims 32% of Turks believe honor killing is justifiable in families. It concludes by pointing out the number of radicalized muslims in the world adds up to 800 million, not a few thousand."

Lol. So people being OK with honor killings is the same that ISIS are doing.

Yeah, not moving the goalposts at all.

I didn't say "all muslims bar a few thousands are culturally compatible with the west". I said that the vast majority of Muslims don't support ISIS. And they don't. Neither do they support these beheadings. I thought that was obvious.

"Tommy boy, we have certainly stirred the pot over there, but you cockroaches are in such a hurry to escape the hells you create for yourselves that we are suddenly inundated with you in our own countries. If you were wise, you would consider your invitation revoked, but we all know you won't. You'll hang around, barking incessantly and making messes on the floor until you are forcibly shown the door. If you're lucky."

I like how she threatens me with death by proxy even though she knows I'm innocent and STILL thinks she one of the good guys. LOL.

I know this will shock you, but some people know the difference between normal people (i.e.e me) and those shitheads. You WISH they don't care. But in this day and age, it's is childs play to check out my posting patterns. I am not one of them.

Blogger Vox December 13, 2014 7:16 AM  

I know this will shock you, but some people know the difference between normal people (i.e.e me) and those shitheads. You WISH they don't care.

(laughs) Tommy, have you never read any history at all? Do you think any Americans believed the interned Japanese-Americans were guilty of participating in Pearl Harbor?

I KNOW the mob doesn't care once the reaction begins. They never have in the past, they never will in the future. America in particular is prone to doing nothing for far too long, then overreacting. You aren't a Westerner and you don't understand how Westerners think and behave because you're looking only at one small snapshot in time from your personal experience.

Anonymous zen0 December 13, 2014 7:18 AM  

I know this will shock you, but some people know the difference between normal people (i.e.e me) and those shitheads

Yes, yes, Tommy. You are the good cop. You will protect us from that bad cop.

ISIS is just Islamic diplomacy by other means. This is nothing new.

Blogger Tommy Hass December 13, 2014 7:20 AM  

...but Japanese weren't slaughtered or expelled. This is what you've been predicting, right?

Blogger Doom December 13, 2014 7:23 AM  

I'm surprised Israel allowed that cocksucker into their country, given the shit the Episcopalian church has tossed at Israel just for daring to continue to fight to exist. If it was just an Episcopalian, yeah, sure. But not one of the leadership.

As for those murdered, better to be dead than lose their souls falling to the minor demon cult that is islam. As I see it, almost any who refuses to surrender, and dies for their faith in Christ, is saved. So long as they didn't actively court the process. And so long as they were in good graces.

Further, I think you are mistaken. It is not our involvement with the Middle East that is the problem, never was. That is merely an understanding, by some leaders, that the locust swarm has taken to wing and the proper reaction to it. As has been shown, oil is not worth the cost. But keeping the swarm there is. Perhaps, finally, you may be coming around. Or are you suggesting, at this juncture, we pull back still?

The drop in Middle Eastern Christendom was happening, and was bound to happen. Camel jockeys just go nuts ever so often. Israel's recreation was the signal. It's just taken the sand negros this long to breed up to a fight. They work by numbers, not through smarts, even before they were islamic. Swarms, it's how they have always worked. It's all they know.

Blogger Tommy Hass December 13, 2014 7:24 AM  

"ISIS is just Islamic diplomacy by other means. This is nothing new."

Get a load of this brazen liar.

Think about ISIS. Think about what they've been doing, specifically.

Was that happening in Iraq and Syria before ISIS? Or in the vast majority of the Islamic world?

You guys KNOW that Obama caused this by supporting the Arab Spring and destabilizing Assad. Yet you doublethink that away and make that absurd claim, even though Assad is also as Muslim as were/are all secular Muslim leaders.

Blogger Tommy Hass December 13, 2014 7:28 AM  

" given the shit the Episcopalian church has tossed at Israel just for daring to continue to fight to exist."

*snicker* yeah Israel really is the underdog here. :(

"As for those murdered, better to be dead than lose their souls falling to the minor demon cult that is islam."

You are an ugly, crude abomination.

"Further, I think you are mistaken. It is not our involvement with the Middle East that is the problem, never was. That is merely an understanding, by some leaders, that the locust swarm has taken to wing and the proper reaction to it. As has been shown, oil is not worth the cost. But keeping the swarm there is. Perhaps, finally, you may be coming around. Or are you suggesting, at this juncture, we pull back still? "

Really? Brazenly invading Muslim countries is not going to motivate them to kill you? Really?

"Israel's recreation was the signal."

More like 80% of the reason they hate you. Muzzies were a whole lot more mellow before that.

Anonymous zen0 December 13, 2014 7:37 AM  

Was that happening in Iraq and Syria before ISIS? Or in the vast majority of the Islamic world?

It was happening long before Iraq was cobbled together by the Brits.

Anonymous Anubis December 13, 2014 7:39 AM  

I would be all for Vlad Tepes style if that traitorous twat in the white house wouldn't go bombing hospitals and news outlets like Clinton did when the indigenous Serbs tried to kick out illegal alien drug dealing muslims. The US military has been backing the jihadists side since the first gulf war.

"Also, no one wants to wipe out Islam in the East."
If not for oil there would not be a muslim nation with running water. They have to import foreigners to do work not just what the middle class does but anything requiring basic math. Those nations without oil would collapse without US & European food/medical aid. Fred Reed said without men civilization would last until the next oil change, Muslim nations on their own wouldn't even last that long.

Tommy- "Neither do they support these beheadings. " But they support other beheadings. Tommy you do know ISIS is throwing your fellow gays off the highest building(which they couldn't build) then stoning them to death & not the Marian Barry way.

Blogger Tommy Hass December 13, 2014 7:42 AM  

"It was happening long before Iraq was cobbled together by the Brits."

This is why you're a sophistic annoyance.

I can't possibly say that this is untrue, because yes, there have been pogroms against Christians. It is also completely besides the point.

The reason why this is such big news is because IT WASN'T HAPPENING BEFORE. I'm willing to be the displaced or murdered people there will have a different opion that it was the same under Saddam.

Blogger Laguna Beach Fogey December 13, 2014 7:44 AM  

How do you respond to that? You just cry.

You know, as things heat up, that's going to be a really insufficient response.

I say we respond in kind, beginning with the Muslims in our own communities. And the SJWs and others who defend them and make excuses for these scumbags.

20 years, eh? I just hope I live long enough to shed the blood of our adversaries.

Blogger Tommy Hass December 13, 2014 7:48 AM  

"I would be all for Vlad Tepes style if that traitorous twat in the white house wouldn't go bombing hospitals and news outlets like Clinton did when the indigenous Serbs tried to kick out illegal alien drug dealing muslims."

Yeah because Serbs were so well known for their civility...

They weren't merely kicking them out you moron. Also, illegal aliens? Source?

"Fred Reed said without men civilization would last until the next oil change, Muslim nations on their own wouldn't even last that long."

Even though there are penty of nations that do and did. Lol.

"But they support other beheadings. Tommy you do know ISIS is throwing your fellow gays off the highest building(which they couldn't build) then stoning them to death & not the Marian Barry way."

What does this have to do with ISIS killing Christians under convert or die?

Those people were sodomites, presumably. You know what God did with Sodom, do you?

Blogger Tommy Hass December 13, 2014 7:51 AM  

"I say we respond in kind, beginning with the Muslims in our own communities. And the SJWs and others who defend them and make excuses for these scumbags.

20 years, eh? I just hope I live long enough to shed the blood of our adversaries."

It's one thing to say that OTHER people won't care. But how can you justify harming people whom YOU KNOW wish you no harm.

If I were you, I would force muzzies to go fight ISIS to prove their loyalty. Otherwise, fuck off.

You uncreative dolt, you.

Anonymous zen0 December 13, 2014 7:53 AM  

This is why you're a sophistic annoyance.

Thank you. I am only going by what The Islamic Supreme Council of America says in its article Islamic Radicalism: Its Wahhabi Roots and Current Representation I could supply a link if you'd like, or Google can be your friend.

Blogger Tommy Hass December 13, 2014 7:54 AM  

I never said Islamic Radicalism didn't exist before this. Stop lying.

Anonymous hygate December 13, 2014 7:55 AM  

In the meanwhile this sort of thing is going on among the "fashionable set" in the west.

http://www.harpersbazaar.com/fashion/fashion-articles/tom-ford-penis-necklace

Blogger Tommy Hass December 13, 2014 7:55 AM  

Holy shit, I am acting like an indignant kike.

Please plan your second reconquista further, gentlemen. I shouldn't attempt to argue. Blergh.

Blogger Vox December 13, 2014 8:00 AM  

...but Japanese weren't slaughtered or expelled. This is what you've been predicting, right?

Yes. And the Japanese only committed one attack on Americans. Tommy, I don't care what you think. It doesn't matter. It also doesn't matter what I think. The patterns of history are very, very clear. Islam expands. Eventually, it meets resistance in the West. And then the West drives it back again. That will happen again; we are rapidly approaching peak Islam in the West.

Anonymous Different T December 13, 2014 8:03 AM  

The fantasies of a "Western Christian Revolution"

"And soon the Saxon will begin to hate. That is when the anti-Western politicians will be removed from power. That is when the Western nations will rise. And that is when Enoch Powell's long-predicted Rivers of Blood will begin to flow."

"Begin to rise" towards what? All of your new manly Christians, finally forced into action by the "demonstrable evils," are going to do what when the "Rivers of Blood will begin to flow." Raise generations of new pious Christians? With whom?

This is comical considering your affinity for erasure jokes.

Anonymous Action Bronson December 13, 2014 8:04 AM  

Arabs are just niggers feeding off an oil spigot instead of the welfare spigot. But sometimes both, depending on location.

Blogger Tommy Hass December 13, 2014 8:04 AM  

Is this "expansion" comparable to the genuine expansion of the Ummayads and the Ottomans?

I think you are underestimating the possibility of Muslims succumbing to atheism, much like Jews did in America. Many Muslims intermarry with westerners.

I think this time a couple of things are different: the west isn't as Christian anymore. Does that make no difference?

Blogger Mindstorm December 13, 2014 8:05 AM  

You know what God did with Sodom, do you?
This one is weak. Do you know what is another name for self-appointed 'tools of God's will'?

Anonymous Different T December 13, 2014 8:06 AM  

"And then the West drives it back again. That will happen again; we are rapidly approaching peak Islam in the West."

A "West" motivated by what? You have a lot of faith in Coca-Cola and porn (granted they really might be enough).

Anonymous Stilicho December 13, 2014 8:11 AM  

Tommy, at least try to confine your incontinence to the papers laid on the floor for you. No one is afraid you or your co-religionists, we're simply getting tired of the smell. No more Scooby snacks for you.

Blogger Tommy Hass December 13, 2014 8:15 AM  

"Do you know what is another name for self-appointed 'tools of God's will'?"

Nope.

You also missed my point. I find it insincere to pretend that the execution of sodomites REALLY bothers you. Christianity considers sodomy a grave sin. You just brought that up because you were running out of ammunition.

"Tommy, at least try to confine your incontinence to the papers laid on the floor for you. No one is afraid you or your co-religionists, we're simply getting tired of the smell. No more Scooby snacks for you."

I apoligize for the former. As for the latter: that's what I would say if I was you. Try again.

Anonymous PA December 13, 2014 9:07 AM  

The US foreign policy both under the W and the O administrations has clearly been the driver behind the eradication of Christianity in the Middle East. I don't know the motive behind it though -- nobody with any power to influence US policy benefits strategically from this.

As to ISIS being a US creation, an interesting blogger HipsterRacist at Wordpress has been making the case that ISIS is Al Quaeda 2.0, both being CIA astroturf movements.

Anonymous Godwin December 13, 2014 9:16 AM  

So this "Reconquista" and "tenth Crusade" that will occur in Europe and America that you keep predicting, aren't you just calling for ethno/religious cleansing linke the National Socialists before you? I ask because for a Reconquista, there needs to be an actual conquista first.

Blogger Tommy Hass December 13, 2014 9:29 AM  

"I ask because for a Reconquista, there needs to be an actual conquista first."

I've also said this. He just answered "Oh well, Pre-conquista then" (paraphrasing).

Blogger Northern Hamlet December 13, 2014 9:32 AM  

Different T,

A "West" motivated by what? You have a lot of faith in Coca-Cola and porn (granted they really might be enough

I'll take a stab at this. Even given all the talk, the USA still self-identifies as Christian to roughly 75%. Those beliefs can be mobilized quickly if an enemy was presented correctly, see 9-11. The rhetoric on the ground here was truly amazing, religiously and nationalistically, leading up to the war in Iraq. You never heard much PC or liberalized talk, but more than enough racial slurs from regular Joes.

We might be broke and war-weary, but that religiousness can arise, especially if there's an enemy coming to threaten our resources, aka Coca-Cola and porn. All joking aside, understand that Coca-Cola is exportable water and sugar, and wars are fought over these sorts of things. And porn, well porn... There’s a shortage of perfect breasts in this world. It would be a pity to damage ours.

Anonymous harry12 December 13, 2014 9:37 AM  

Slowly, the Saxon awakes.
Nigel Farage is a 'pound shop Enoch Powell'

Anonymous Godfrey December 13, 2014 9:43 AM  

So say "Thank you" to the USG for funding all this evil. And remember good American "Christians" to chant loud and clear your sacred prayer "USA, USA, USA" to your real god, the USG.

Oh... and be sure to sacrifice your children to your god too. Make sure they join the US military.

Anonymous Different T December 13, 2014 9:48 AM  

@Northern Hamlet

Your analysis is similar to my own. Which does not support "That is when the Western nations will rise." (especially in context, which is even more delusional, "Reconquista").

Blogger Mindstorm December 13, 2014 9:52 AM  

Hahaha. I don't care for 'eternal punishment'. But killing 'sinners' has a long tradition. In my country there is a saying: "If you want to hit a dog, any stick will do." I'll translate it for your convenience - If you want to kill someone want killed, any pretext is good enough. Just ask Felix Dzerzhinsky.

Blogger Laguna Beach Fogey December 13, 2014 9:52 AM  

we are rapidly approaching peak Islam in the West

Bingo. Exactly. And peak Feminism and SJW, too, by the looks of it.

Anonymous Real Social Justice December 13, 2014 9:52 AM  

The US Govt and Military have been persecuting and routing Christians overseas since Bosnia, where it sided with the Muslims. It reminds me of the same Elites getting White people to fight and kill each other in World Wars.

The real question is whether or not there will be Justice. Are these Politicians and armed government workers simply going to go away and fade into the night?
Their playbook should be turned on them. Make them pay and make of them an example.
“Shoot a Thousand to Intimidate a Million..” – Trotsky pamphlet 1917

Blogger Mindstorm December 13, 2014 9:53 AM  

^
[...]you want killed[...]

Anonymous Bracken House, London December 13, 2014 10:02 AM  

So say "Thank you" to the USG for funding all this evil.

The US is simply the bitch and proxy for The City and the Euro Families.
Those who believe the British Empire is dead have been hoodwinked.
Britain should've been left to its deserved, Socialist fate in WWI and II.

Blogger Tommy Hass December 13, 2014 10:06 AM  

"So say "Thank you" to the USG for funding all this evil. And remember good American "Christians" to chant loud and clear your sacred prayer "USA, USA, USA" to your real god, the USG.

Oh... and be sure to sacrifice your children to your god too. Make sure they join the US military."

Silly, don't you see: it's really an old school fight between Christendom and the Islamic world. /sarc

"In my country there is a saying: "If you want to hit a dog, any stick will do." I'll translate it for your convenience - If you want to kill someone want killed, any pretext is good enough. Just ask Felix Dzerzhinsky."

Reminds me of Aesop.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wolf_and_the_Lamb

Blogger Tommy Hass December 13, 2014 10:09 AM  

"Britain should've been left to its deserved, Socialist fate in WWI and II."

WWI? Socialist fate? Elaborate plz.

Also, the Aesop fable also applies to what Vox proposes will happen to Mohammedans in the West. One could argue it is what some commenters do against me/us, lol.

Anonymous Different T December 13, 2014 10:09 AM  

Reconquista 2.0

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The Goggles suddenly flash a masturbating beauty (some versions female, some male, some tranny, some animal [but never a child] depending of course on the sexual orientation the user signed in with this time). The beauty says "Help I'm being attacked, won't you save me?" The user picks up his X-Box controller, presses Start and is virtually transported to a drone or robots POV. "Damn the [insert whoever is threatening the beauty]" screams the User. The shift lasts 15 minutes and the length and "quality" of the porno at the end is dependent on the number of "enemies" killed.

After "completion" the user takes a gulp of Coca-Cola, "Ahhh, Reconquista 2.0 is so much fun. I love this country and prophet Vox!"

Blogger BeMe_a_Bear December 13, 2014 10:18 AM  

Different T, you're obviously a degenerate fool. You use examples like this to demonstrate your intelligence, or lack thereof. This might be the only kind of thing you think about 24/7.

Blogger Northern Hamlet December 13, 2014 10:20 AM  

Different T,

Your analysis is similar to my own. Which does not support "That is when the Western nations will rise." (especially in context, which is even more delusional, "Reconquista").

Vox's rhetorical flourishes aside, stranger things have happened. Consider that we literally just came out of 2 wars, one in Afghan and one in Iraq. Over one attack. That had nothing to do with one of the mentioned countries.

However, I was addressing your "lack of motivation" comment, which was your stated criticism of Vox's position. I find Vox's situation unlikely myself, but only because we're actively at (proxy) war over there already. But again, stranger things have happened, and I wouldn't be surprised to wake up to Reconquista 2.0, anymore than I was surprised on 9-12 when my liberal co-worker said "bomb all those sand-niggers back to the stone age!"

Regarding your drone video game... I can honestly think of several male friends that wouldn't think twice about playing it. No joke.

Anonymous Michael December 13, 2014 10:28 AM  

Truth revolt, "I blame Western imperialist foreign policy for those deaths."

Of course. Zio-Marxist government in action. Install central banks everywhere, control all economic resources and send in their secular militants to drive the Christians out.

The beheaded children martyrs for Christ are in Heaven now.

As for western societies rising up, I don't know. I mean it's possible, certainly, but it's hard not to notice how apathetic most people have become. What's most depressing is knowing how the majority, if unified in purpose, have the capacity to overthrow the corrupt system literally overnight, yet lack the will to do so. Why is this? God can harden people's hearts, making them indifferent to abuse of law and liberty. In other words, as a form of punishment for turning away from the Truth, we become subjected to the terrors of a merciless, secular state.

Anonymous PA December 13, 2014 10:29 AM  

I wouldn't be surprised to wake up to Reconquista 2.0, anymore than I was surprised on 9-12

Recalling post-9/11, the national mood was very grave. Even Bill O'Reilly was appealing for ending all legal immigration.

It took a major media blitz to diffuse and misdirect that spirit. Not in the least were Fox News' ads featuring various foreign mystery meats professing in heavily accented English "I a an Amereekan too."

Anonymous Different T December 13, 2014 10:33 AM  

@Northern Hamlet

"However, I was addressing your "lack of motivation" comment, which was your stated criticism of Vox's position."

The "lack of motivation" was not the criticism. Vox's position is that "And soon the Saxon will begin to hate. That is when the anti-Western politicians will be removed from power. That is when the Western nations will rise. And that is when Enoch Powell's long-predicted Rivers of Blood will begin to flow." In context, a Christian "Reconquista."

Again, my analysis is similar to your own. There likely would be a number of motivations, chief among them "protecting the Western way of life." Again, that does not support a Christian Reconquista.
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"Begin to rise" towards what?" For brevity, go ahead and grant Vox a mass conversion.

"All of your new manly Christians, finally forced into action by the 'demonstrable evils,' are going to do what when the 'Rivers of Blood will begin to flow.' Raise generations of new pious Christians? With whom?"

Vox loves Erasure jokes..............

Blogger Tommy Hass December 13, 2014 10:34 AM  

"than I was surprised on 9-12 when my liberal co-worker said "bomb all those sand-niggers back to the stone age!""

In hindsight it's a shame that only that many people died. Filth.

Anonymous PA December 13, 2014 10:37 AM  

As for western societies rising up, I don't know. I mean it's possible, certainly, but it's hard not to notice how apathetic most people have become.

Apathy is the first step toward overthrowing. Apathy = rejection of the governing narrative. That leads to passive resistance and eventually to people no longer pretending to believe the narrative. That is when the government is no longer seen as legitimate. A similar process played out in Communist Eastern Europe, where earlier active uprisings have failed.

Blogger Tommy Hass December 13, 2014 10:38 AM  

I believe in punishing those responsible first and foremost. But maybe I am old fashioned...

Blogger Hermit December 13, 2014 10:40 AM  

Before thinking about reconquista 2.0 I would think about what to do with internal traitors.

Those who follow weak modern churchianity will probably change their ways for good, after all they follow that illogical form of fake christianity because they follow the world instead of following Christ and they will change their mind in the exact moment the world change.
In the exact moment when traditional christianity regains his strenght they will change too.

But what about the well poisoners? Those kind of dogmatic science fetishist and "skeptics" that killed the soul of the west by trying to destroy our religion and our tradition with their nihilistic atheism and globalist relativism. Those who would abolish Christmas and our traditions because it's offensive to non-western people who have different cultures.
What about the "progressives" (more like regressives)?
What about those people that think christianity is the worst evil in history, that Hitler was catholic and that we cause the dark ages?
What about those parasites?
What about the sons of the "enlightenment" and cultural marxists?

"If I had but one bullet and were faced by both an enemy and a traitor, I would let the traitor have it."

Anonymous Daniel December 13, 2014 10:40 AM  

I mean it's possible, certainly, but it's hard not to notice how apathetic most people have become.

You are missing the big picture. Typically, revolutions are not led by the majority, nor are counterrevolutions, or even conquests. The majority are always apathetic. Aside from very brief surges of patriotic galvanization, which do involve a majority, the work and action is done almost entirely by a small cancer that works its way through or a remnant of willful people.

Blogger BeMe_a_Bear December 13, 2014 10:41 AM  

""Begin to rise" towards what? All of your new manly Christians, finally forced into action by the "demonstrable evils," are going to do what when the "Rivers of Blood will begin to flow." Raise generations of new pious Christians? With whom?"--Different T

So what is a "pious" Christian supposed to do? Sit on his hands and watch while his religion, culture, and society disintegrate into ash and rubble?

At what point are we supposed to stand up to these vermin? Oh wait, I forgot. You're pious. So you don't want us to be not-nice, no matter what they've done.

Anonymous Credo in Unum Deum December 13, 2014 10:43 AM  

Coming soon to a suburb near you, yah kafir.

Praying for their young souls...

"Dies Irae: Day of Wrath" by William Forstchen, (The same guy who wrote "One Second After") Read it.

If history is any guide: We're going to see a Beslan-style attack in the USA within our lifetimes, (If two hajjis can set off bombs in Boston during a Marathon, then a group of hajjis can easily walk right into a gun-free school-zone and start shooting.) and sometime this century Mecca (Along with maybe Medina) will be nuked.

We nuked two cities in Japan, there's no reason why we can't also nuke two cities on the Arabian Peninsula.

Blogger Northern Hamlet December 13, 2014 10:57 AM  

Different T,

The "lack of motivation" was not the criticism.

In your initial comment, it most certainly was. Tongue-in-cheek, you implied that Coke wouldn't be enough to provide a call to action.

Anonymous Orkin December 13, 2014 11:09 AM  

"I believe in punishing those responsible first and foremost. But maybe I am old fashioned..." When the house is full of scorpions it's not really a great idea to limit your eradication efforts to the ones who have already already stung the baby.

Blogger Vox December 13, 2014 11:16 AM  

So this "Reconquista" and "tenth Crusade" that will occur in Europe and America that you keep predicting, aren't you just calling for ethno/religious cleansing linke the National Socialists before you?

Can't even figure it out when it is literally sitting right in front of you, can you. Enoch Powell is dead, and even so, he has you pegged. "Above all, people are disposed to mistake predicting troubles for causing troubles and even for desiring troubles."

Blogger Tommy Hass December 13, 2014 11:20 AM  

"and sometime this century Mecca (Along with maybe Medina) will be nuked."

What is it with you catamites and you obsession with nuking Mecca? It's not a strategic target. It is pissing on a Quran writ large. It is adolescence + WMDs. At least nuke Bangladesh. Highest pop. dens.

You don't believe Muslims will be "OMG THEY NUKED US I SCARED" right?

I mean you would have to destroy half of the world to stop the flood that follows.

Anonymous Different T December 13, 2014 11:22 AM  

You sure walked away from that one quick.

Your sophism is still needs vast amounts of improvement, though.

How do you answer: Do you desire a Christian Reconquista in the West?

Anonymous PA December 13, 2014 11:27 AM  

"desiring troubles"

Clearly, we want a European Europe; anything else means our destruction.

And in order for Europe to be once again without any more than negligible numbers of non-Whites, and with zero non-European political influence, some form of removal of colored immigrants and their descendants has to occur. Therefore, we either desire a Reconquista (in some form) or we desire our own genocide.

Blogger Tom Kratman December 13, 2014 11:28 AM  

Ya know, were Mohammad to return to Earth, I am pretty sure that his second act, after Shahada, would be to have any number of his alleged followers not just beheaded but crucified. See Surah 5.

Anonymous Different T December 13, 2014 11:31 AM  

A pity Vox won't answer now.

Again, your sophism needs vast amounts of improvement. Vox purely as uninterested-predictor-Extraordinaire didn't even last a single post.

Anonymous PA December 13, 2014 11:35 AM  

"A pity Vox won't answer now."

I'm sure he's saying to himself at this very moment: "oh boy, I must make haste to comply with some anonymous guy on the internet telling me I have to answer him now!"

Blogger Jeff Burton December 13, 2014 11:45 AM  

"What is it with you catamites and you obsession with nuking Mecca?"

Come on, Mr. Hass, you are clearly an intelligent person. It's like burying Muslims with swine carcasses. Only on a much bigger scale.

Anonymous Different T December 13, 2014 11:55 AM  

"I'm sure he's saying to himself at this very moment: "oh boy, I must make haste to comply with some anonymous guy on the internet telling me I have to answer him now!""

That's what you're for, LDO.

Blogger Tommy Hass December 13, 2014 12:02 PM  

"Ya know, were Mohammad to return to Earth, I am pretty sure that his second act, after Shahada, would be to have any number of his alleged followers not just beheaded but crucified. See Surah 5."

You're insidious, hehe.

Blogger Tommy Hass December 13, 2014 12:03 PM  

Does that include Suleiman the Magnificent? He allied with the French...

Anonymous NorthernHamlet December 13, 2014 12:04 PM  

Again, your sophism needs vast amounts of improvement. Vox purely as uninterested-predictor-Extraordinaire didn't even last a single post.

I'm sure he's saying to himself at this very moment: "oh boy, I must make haste to comply with some anonymous guy on the internet telling me I have to answer him now!"

After a hearty, but silent fist to the air in cheering spirits, Mr Day flipped off the Lazio game, switching to Bach's Piano Sonata Op 17 before growing restless with the light-hearted handling of Sturm und Drang. Too much of a light touch and petty patronizing.

He flips to Very by the Pet Shop Boys. Ah, that's better. He considers a Vermentino vs a Sangiovese, though it will be an early drink to the day. He has plenty to do and can't be too cloudy minded, but the rolling vista from his open office window demands at least a half-glass on such a beautiful afternoon. He goes with the Sangiovese, a rare reward for himself after a long week. Super-grade indeed.

His browser pings him. Different T has left another comment, this time accusing Mr Day of evasion. Vox pounds his fist on the desk and throws his glass of wine straight out the window. A maid screams below as she is hit with the drink and covered in red liquid, which in her terror she mistakes for her own blood.

Mr. Day opens another web browser and googles the name "Different T" while firing up WireShark. The hunt has begun. How dare someone on the Internet accuse him of something.

*disclaimer: I know nothing about Vox's life outside of this blog. This story is a complete work of fiction. Also, my wife was urging me to hurry the hell up because I have to head over to the youth soccer field.

Anonymous zen0 December 13, 2014 12:30 PM  

@ Tommy Hass

It is pissing on a Quran writ large.

People piss on the bible on a regular basis. Its no biggy, there is always another copy. To think otherwise is a form of idolatry.

Now that Erdogan has revived the Ottoman language (by making it compulsory in Turkish education) as a step to realize his dream of the new caliphate, are you going to learn it as well?

Blogger Tommy Hass December 13, 2014 12:45 PM  

"People piss on the bible on a regular basis. Its no biggy, there is always another copy. To think otherwise is a form of idolatry."

Your logic is more flexible than Vladimir Putin's mistress.

Blogger Tommy Hass December 13, 2014 12:47 PM  

"Now that Erdogan has revived the Ottoman language (by making it compulsory in Turkish education) as a step to realize his dream of the new caliphate, are you going to learn it as well?"

1. I don't live in Turkey.
2. I'm past school age.
3. I dislike Erdogan.
4. I am not productive enough to do this in my spare time yet.
5. Arabic is probably more important as of now, for me.

Anonymous Godwin December 13, 2014 12:54 PM  

Can't even figure it out

Of course you didn't demonstrate that there is a conquista to necessitate a reconquista. But keep stiring the pot. Jew or Muslim, '36 or '14, who cares.

Blogger James Dixon December 13, 2014 1:10 PM  

> I cannot believe that there are people who wish to spill blood of a group 1 billion strong for the deeds of a group of thousand.

Police your own, Tommy. Or be prepared to die with them. Your call.

> I mean you would have to destroy half of the world to stop the flood that follows.

That's laughable. We'd be willing to destroy 90% or more,Tommy. Like Vox says, you don't understand us at all.

Blogger Tom Kratman December 13, 2014 1:16 PM  

Seems to me there's original precedent for alliance with infidels, Tommy.

Anonymous Curtis December 13, 2014 1:22 PM  

Putin was right. Our meddling created a vacuum. This isn't in defense of Assad, or Gaddafi, or Saddam. It is just a plain fact. It is also a plain fact that our president, congress, State Dept., CIA, CTU's, and etc. are working out of both sides of their mouths concerning ISIS/flavor of the day. They condemn them out of one side, while plausibly denying they are arming and training them out of the other. And seriously, what does anyone expect when/if Assad is gone? That the holy of holies democracy will prevail? I'm not denying that ISIS and their followers are a threat, but geez people, open your eyes. Your government, by various means, destroyed the infrastrcture that kept, for the most part, the crazies in their dark, dank, corners.

Anonymous Godfrey December 13, 2014 1:28 PM  

Real Social Justice December 13, 2014 9:52 AM

“Shoot a Thousand to Intimidate a Million..” – Trotsky pamphlet 1917


"Hit the leader in the head with an ice pick and watch the minions scatter." Godfrey 2014

Blogger Sean Carnegie December 13, 2014 1:30 PM  

> I cannot believe that there are people who wish to spill blood of a group 1 billion strong for the deeds of a group of thousand.

If the 999,999,000 didn't fund, cheer on and procreate with that thousand whilst actively working as a fifth column in their Western nations, perhaps you'd have something there. However, this not being the case...

Blogger Tommy Hass December 13, 2014 1:38 PM  

5:82 "You will surely find the most intense of the people in animosity toward the believers [to be] the Jews and those who associate others with Allah ; and you will find the nearest of them in affection to the believers those who say, "We are Christians." That is because among them are priests and monks and because they are not arrogant."

Heh.

"Police your own, Tommy. Or be prepared to die with them. Your call."

Ok, just curious: who is supposed to stop ISIS and how?

"That's laughable. We'd be willing to destroy 90% or more,Tommy. Like Vox says, you don't understand us at all."

Have fun living on a wasteland.

Blogger Tom Kratman December 13, 2014 1:39 PM  

"I cannot believe that there are people who wish to spill blood of a group 1 billion strong for the deeds of a group of thousand."

I don't think it's exactly about wishes, Tommy, in the way you're probably thinking. It's about either a) reprising, in a really attention grabbing way, so that Muslims will police their own, in preference to b) us exterminating Muslims, for which kind of operation on the part of westeners and Christians there is considerable precedent, and doing so not because we like the idea, but because it solves our problem with Islam.

Personally, I like option c), go Koranic, in a Moslem Reformation. For those who have not read the Koran the minimum of twice (once to get past the strangeness and the second time to see the beauty of the language and imagery, even in translation, and the value in the thought, and there is some), most of the problems, possibly all the important ones, we and Islam have with each other doesn't spring from the Koran, but from the Sunna and the Hadiths. Koranic Islam - an American version's motto is, "The Koran, the whole Koran, and nothing but the Koran" - tosses those. There's a strong libertarian streak in Islam, anyway, but toss the Sunna and the Hadiths and it becomes quite pronounced.

But that's on you, Tommy, and the rest of the Islamic world. You've got to police them, and esterminate the loons yourselves, or we WILL become what we fight, which is to say, loons ourselves.

Blogger Tommy Hass December 13, 2014 1:40 PM  

"
If the 999,999,000 didn't fund, cheer on and procreate with that thousand whilst actively working as a fifth column in their Western nations, perhaps you'd have something there. However, this not being the case..."

No offence, but you're a fool. Do you have evidence for your asinine claim?

Anonymous Cail Corishev December 13, 2014 1:44 PM  

So this "Reconquista" and "tenth Crusade" that will occur in Europe and America that you keep predicting, aren't you just calling for ethno/religious cleansing like the National Socialists before you?

If you're too 'tarded to know the difference between "predicting" and "calling for," maybe this will help: Imagine that you're crossing a street and a car is bearing down on you. The guy on the sidewalk who yells, "Hey, watch out for that car!" is not the same person as the driver of the car.

Anonymous Curtis December 13, 2014 1:45 PM  

If the 999,999,000 didn't fund, cheer on and procreate with that thousand whilst actively working as a fifth...

That is a bunch of crock. You don't have to like or respect the Muslim faith. But to just blatantly throw out there that the vast majority, or even all Muslims, support ISIS/Flavor of the day, is just an outright lie.

And you pay taxes...

Blogger Sean Carnegie December 13, 2014 1:50 PM  

So.... perhaps like these?

http://www.torontosun.com/2013/09/20/islamic-groups-charitable-status-revoked-over-alleged-link-to-terror-organization
http://www.thestar.com/news/world/2014/04/29/canadian_muslim_charity_listed_as_terrorist_organization.html

That'll cover the funding. As far as cheering on, have you seen Twitter, YouTube, or Muslim fora? Maybe one should check out MEMRI's extensive collection of Muslim propaganda/cheering on.
Procreating: do you need evidence of Muslim birthrates or polygamy that's illegal in the majority of the West but is allowed for Muslims?

And fifth columns, one need only look at the NA versions of CAIR and alleged reporters like the Toronto Star's Haroon Siddiqui.

Anonymous PA December 13, 2014 1:52 PM  

Tommy, Curtis, others: please clarify something for me. Are you saying that Europe should accommodate, in perpetuity, very large numbers of non-White Muslims and allow them political power as such, or are you saying the opposite of that?

Blogger Tommy Hass December 13, 2014 1:56 PM  

"It's about either a) reprising, in a really attention grabbing way, so that Muslims will police their own, in preference to b) us exterminating Muslims, for which kind of operation on the part of westeners and Christians there is considerable precedent, and doing so not because we like the idea, but because it solves our problem with Islam. "

Is that even possible? There are 1 billion +....

What is that precedent? Indians? I'm afraid we are slightly more formidable than them. Could be wrong though.

Wouldn't that cause more harm than good? For you? And, how do you exterminate the guys like Albanians, Turks, Kurds, Indonesians, or hell, Iranians, who are either allies or neutral?

I have my own idea on solving this problem.

1. No immigration of Muslims to western countries. Confident countries can permit up to 3% but no more. Those who have more than that already can use various tricks to get rid of them, none hat require massive explusions.

Mostly, the West would need to cure it's HIV/AIDS and cleanse itself from cultural Marxism. Get religious, patriarchal and ethnocentric again. Make Muslims feel like Christians feel over there. The hardcore ones' will not be able to take it (I've spoken to some of them, they want to go back) Those who can take it will be assimilable.

2. Stop supporting Israel. (obvious)

3. Support stable regimes that oppose terror groups and punish those that don't.

4. Should attacks STILL happen, conventional, Dresden like reprisals on a appropriate targets. Maybe sanctions?

Should solve problems just fine.

Blogger Tommy Hass December 13, 2014 1:59 PM  

"Personally, I like option c), go Koranic, in a Moslem Reformation. For those who have not read the Koran the minimum of twice (once to get past the strangeness and the second time to see the beauty of the language and imagery, even in translation, and the value in the thought, and there is some), most of the problems, possibly all the important ones, we and Islam have with each other doesn't spring from the Koran, but from the Sunna and the Hadiths. Koranic Islam - an American version's motto is, "The Koran, the whole Koran, and nothing but the Koran" - tosses those. There's a strong libertarian streak in Islam, anyway, but toss the Sunna and the Hadiths and it becomes quite pronounced."

Hadith cannot just be ignored I'm afraid. Most of these are pretty context driven though, I believe. Like the one about Muhammad being ambivalent about collateral damage to kids. Arguably, that was restricted to their mortal enemies, the Meccan pagans. Some thing with that one Koranic verse that people say is an open ended order to kill infidels which I find absurd.

Your idea seems sound.

Anonymous zippo December 13, 2014 2:03 PM  

Prayers for these brave, faithful children. Lord, welcome them into your kingdom as we wait in joyful hope for the coming of our savior Jesus Christ. For the kingdom, the power and the glory are yours, now and forever.

All this crazy talk about nuking Mecca and killing gazillions of Muslims is nuts. Most of our problems with Islam wouldn't exist at all if we a) didn't let them live in our countries, b) didn't subsidize their birth rates and c) stopped interfering in their own countries. Leave them alone in peace, and don't let them come to the West. Problem solved, mostly. There is of course the sticky issue of persecuted Christians in these lands, but that would have been substantially mitigated if we weren't mucking around and constantly causing trouble in Muslim lands. It would still be a problem, but a much smaller one.

Anonymous kfg December 13, 2014 2:03 PM  

"Yeah because Serbs were so well known for their civility..."

Tommy, you have just stipulated to Vox's premise.

Next year in Constantinople.

Blogger Tommy Hass December 13, 2014 2:10 PM  

Come on. They're SERBS. Nobody ever denied their willingness to irrigate the plains. They are a product of our environment.

Also, I find your Anatolian ambitions precious.

Blogger Tommy Hass December 13, 2014 2:12 PM  

"or are you saying the opposite of that?"

This.

Anonymous FP December 13, 2014 2:12 PM  

Tommy: "It's the proselytizing that pisses people off."

And yet when westerners protest a mosque here and there (say near the towers in nyc) they're called racists/bigots etc.. When Lego makes a toy that looks vaguely like Hagia Sofia, its supposedly demeaning to Islam.

Anonymous kfg December 13, 2014 2:15 PM  

" I find your Anatolian ambitions precious."

Way to miss the abstract point by missing the empirical fact.

Blogger Tommy Hass December 13, 2014 2:20 PM  

"Way to miss the abstract point by missing the empirical fact."

Beg your pardon?

"And yet when westerners protest a mosque here and there (say near the towers in nyc) they're called racists/bigots etc.. When Lego makes a toy that looks vaguely like Hagia Sofia, its supposedly demeaning to Islam."

That's Jews, not us. Your immunodeficiency is not our moral crisis.

Also, what do mosques have to do with proselytizing. I told you churches are no biggie.

Blogger emilio rodriguez December 13, 2014 2:22 PM  

There is an ongoing Conquista in Europe, I know it wasn't a muslim idea. But Muslims are the Conquistadors. Need some evidence, what about these:

England: Muslims have tried to take control of England’s Schools, and have rape gangs running pretty much free. Besides wanting to have England under sharia law.
http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/2278/britain-islamic-emirates-project
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-28939089
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2642197/Gove-knew-Muslim-schools-plot-four-years-ago-Education-Secretary-accused-sitting-warnings-Islamists-trying-Birmingham-schools.html
Sweden: There are 55 no go zones in Sweden, and Stockholm is the rape capital of the world.
http://dailycaller.com/2014/11/02/swedish-police-release-extensive-report-detailing-control-of-55-no-go-zones-by-muslim-criminal-gangs/
http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-19592372
http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/dgreenfield/1-in-4-swedish-women-will-be-raped-as-sexual-assaults-increase-500/
http://www.thelocal.se/20090427/19102
France: There are more than 700 no go zones. Most of France prisoners are muslims, when they are less then 8% of the population.
http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/world/2014/April/Native-French-under-Attack-in-Muslim-Areas/
http://www.frontpagemag.com/2014/dgreenfield/muslims-are-7-5-of-france-60-of-prisoners/
Netherlands: There are no go zones in the Hague. And along with other European countries, the muslims are a huge % of their criminals.
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/13419
https://themuslimissue.wordpress.com/2012/08/10/netherlands-muslims-busy-establishing-no-go-zones-in-the-netherlands/
Germany: There are no go zones, and most crime is committed by muslims.
http://www.derwesten.de/politik/in-problemvierteln-fuerchtet-sich-sogar-die-polizei-id4926287.html
Italy: muslims are praying in public plazas illegally, and the muslims refugees are demandind to be fed their food, besides having horrible crime problems with muslims.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/2014/dgreenfield/muslim-refugees-in-italy-reject-pasta-demand-food-from-own-countries/
http://pamelageller.com/2011/04/good-friday-in-rome-muslims-illegally-pray-at-altar-to-the-homeland.html/

Need more examples?

Anonymous kfg December 13, 2014 2:22 PM  

"Beg your pardon?"

The ambitions are not mine. Constantinople is not Anatolian.

Anonymous Titus Didius Tacitus December 13, 2014 2:23 PM  

Tommy Hass; our worst enemies invited you and others into our countries to serve as our destroyers. You walked through the open door, and you think that was an innocent decision.

First, it wasn't. You know very well how the mass immigration game goes, because of what happened to the Palestinians. And Muslims sometimes boast of the demographic victory they expect.

Second, it wouldn't matter if it was innocent. Those Christian children were innocent; it made no difference.

Third, Judeo-Christianity rules white countries for now. Your enemy doesn't look like Vlad Tepes or Jan Sobieski or El Cid; he looks like Stephen Samuel Wise, Genrikh Yagoda and John Charles Hagee. "The Cross or the sword" is not the specter that looms ahead of you.

What's ahead of you is this: the people whose lands you were given to settle in are still here, though unfree. If we get our freedom back, we'll want our lands back too, from everybody, including you. That's the nice option. The nasty option is: our rulers beat us forever, as they intend. Then they'll want to beat you too. And they're not nearly as nice as us.

Blogger Tommy Hass December 13, 2014 2:27 PM  

Half of it is.

And that list is hilarious. We would've solved that problem easily if we were you. Lol.

Btw, in german, it doesn't say no go zone, it says problem zone, i.e. a place that is dagnerous, not a place where they bar non muslims from entry. Nonwhites being violent is nothing new. those guys are like that. Can't be helped I'm afraid.

Anonymous Godwin December 13, 2014 2:30 PM  

Cail; if you are predicting a respose to something that isn't occuring, then the difference between "predicting" and "Calling for" is marginal at best.

Anonymous kfg December 13, 2014 2:31 PM  

"Half of it is."

Istanbul is not Constantinople.

Anonymous DNW December 13, 2014 2:33 PM  

"If Muslims accept a role that Christians have to accept in the Orient ..."


"Have to accept", because ...?

Anonymous Curtis December 13, 2014 2:39 PM  

Tommy, Curtis, others: please clarify something for me. Are you saying that Europe should accommodate, in perpetuity, very large numbers of non-White Muslims and allow them political power as such, or are you saying the opposite of that?

Did I remotely say anything of the nature either way?

But I will say this: Do you love it, do you hate it? There it is the way you made it. - Frank Zappa

So. What are you going to do about it? Vote? When your own government puts a rabid dog in your house, do you blame the dog, or your government?

Until you change your government, by any means necessary, you will continue to have rabid dogs thrown into your house. Inescapable fact.

Your own government is perpetuating a cultural war on you. It hopes to wipe you out.

So?

Anonymous Cail Corishev December 13, 2014 2:39 PM  

Cail; if you are predicting a respose to something that isn't occuring, then the difference between "predicting" and "Calling for" is marginal at best.

No it's not, Tad.

Or, when a weatherman predicts dangerous storms developing tomorrow based on wind and pressure patterns today and his study of those same patterns in the past, do you accuse him of "calling for" the tornado that wipes out your trailer?

Blogger Tommy Hass December 13, 2014 2:42 PM  

""Have to accept", because ...?"

Don't be stupid. Christians should do the same.

Blogger emilio rodriguez December 13, 2014 2:44 PM  

That list sounds hilarious because you think it can be solved easily. It can't, the marxists are right now in control, they are on their way out, but it will take decades to clear the stupidity. When the wolves come back and return to power, believe me, those problems will be solved, if you disliked what Serbians did back in the 90s? what's coming is orders of magnitude worse, because, right or wrong, at the end all the rage we Christians feel for the marxists will be directed at muslims, decades of rage will be unleashed, and there won't be a country like the US to save the muslims this time. The Russians are dealing with their muslim problem, and probably will solve it with a Chechnyan genocide. The Chinese are dealing with their Uighur problem, and they will solve it with genocide. Europeans will deal with their muslim problem, and they will solve it with genocide, America is too broke both morally and financially to go help the muslims, besides, I doubt people will want to help muslims again, not after isis. The dar al islam will remain muslim, and hopefully the bloodshed will end with the extermination of muslims in Europe, Russia and China. This depends on the reaction of the muslim countries.

Blogger ajw308 December 13, 2014 2:47 PM  

Tommy, step back and take a look at the topic, muslims systematically slaughtering Christians, and your response, a defense of Islam. You are the poster boy showing how the good/moderate Muslims are part of the problem.

Anonymous Titus Didius Tacitus December 13, 2014 2:53 PM  

ajw308: "Tommy, step back and take a look at the topic, muslims systematically slaughtering Christians, and your response, a defense of Islam. You are the poster boy showing how the good/moderate Muslims are part of the problem."

I'll stop arguing here, because that's the most correct thing anybody has said.

Anonymous Godwin December 13, 2014 2:54 PM  

ajw308; one could argue Christians have been slaughtering Muslims for the last 2 decades. Tommy's being objective.

Anonymous Godwin December 13, 2014 3:01 PM  

Cail; I'm not Tad, but what is your obession with him all about?

I would call into question a meterologists motives if he was predicting future weather based on current data that is made up. I think you would too, you probably have.

Anonymous Curtis December 13, 2014 3:04 PM  

Word:

They are acting. They are creating. They are framing their reality around you. And we … we bark at the end of our leashes. Our ambition for freedumb is at the end of our leash.

Anonymous kfg December 13, 2014 3:07 PM  

" Tommy's being objective. "

While projecting advocacy onto others who are likewise being objective.

Anonymous LES December 13, 2014 3:12 PM  

Ah, the goyim killing each other. Everything going as planned.

Anonymous Curtis December 13, 2014 3:14 PM  

Your millions of Muslims who want to come to America and cut off your heads and clitorises.

http://tinyurl.com/nbe9dp7

Brought to you by your State Dept. and etc.

Blogger Danby December 13, 2014 3:22 PM  

@Godwin
He's calling ylu Tad because you are a willfully stupid faggot, oblivious to the point actually being made, and instead just trying unsuccessfully to mock those who disagree with you.
Shut up Tad.

Anonymous zippo December 13, 2014 3:22 PM  

"one could argue Christians have been slaughtering Muslims for the last 2 decades."

While it's true that the (Israel-inspired) USG violence and meddling in Muslim countries has been deplorable and wrong, the nature of Muslim violence against Christians is different inherently. The West comes into a Muslim country and blows stuff up and kills people, but it doesn't eradicate the people, it just makes problems. Muslims on the other hand are systematically erasing and cleansing Christians from various places, even in Europe itself. This isn't an issue of tu quoque, it is two different types of destruction.

Also, Western violence against Muslims isn't really Christian in nature, it is stupid Christians foolishly doing dirty work for the Jews. Whereas Muslim violence against Christians is specifically Muslim.

Blogger Shibes Meadow December 13, 2014 3:28 PM  

I mean you would have to destroy half of the world to stop the flood that follows.

Can do.

Mass murder comes easy to us. Once the gloves come off, we do Schrecklichkeit in a fashion that would make Jenghiz Khran piss his pants with envy. The U.S. Army killed more innocent civilians in just one attack (the Tokyo firebombing attack of 9-10 March 1945) than the entire total of all U.S. forces killed in the Asian theater. I mean no exaggeration when I say that by 1945 many Americans would not have cared if we had killed off the entire Japanese population so long as it ended the war. That's the way White people do war -- as brutally as possible. That way it gets over with sooner and we can go back to our ball games and the symphony.

Asians do not understand White people. Muslim do not understand Christians. We seek peace and justice and will go to tremendous lengths to avoid war and indiscriminate slaughter. But when faced with a threat perceived to be existential, we become the most methodical, cold-blooded killing machines that have ever existed. Our ancestors wiped out the Neanderthals to the last man. Do you really think we would face any difficulty doing the same to any other group of people if we believed it to be necessary?

I can guarantee you that right now, right this very minute, that there exists somewhere in the Pentagon a detailed, step-by-step plan for the destruction of Islam by means of military force, from the Ka'aba right down to the shabbiest plywood schwarma stand in Karachi. Do you really think that the United States lacks the capacity to carry out this plan? There are weapons in existence of which most people could never dream that could do the job in an afternoon.

I do not identify with the Federal Entity, nor do I support its current foreign policy. But I do know Americans, and I can tell you from direct experience that, given the right circumstances, they could burn the world to cinders and kill off everyone without a U.S. passport and a Holy Bible with no more sense of guilt than one would get from crushing a cockroach. They could, if properly motivated, make slaughter on a scale that would make Timurlane look like an elementary-school pigtail-puller by comparison, and could do so without the slightest scruple of conscience. We burnt a million little kids to ashes just to win World War II. Do you think we'd hesitate to do the same or worse to win World War III?

Don't get me wrong. I'm not arguing for such a horrible thing. I wish peace, bread, children, and happy old age to all men, no matter how bizarre and stupid their religion might be. I just want you to realize that Americans (the White, Christian people of this country, not their government) and White Christian people in general are psychologically capable of going from lazy, TV-watching fat slob mode to dead-eyed mass murderer mode at the flick of a psychological switch.

Call it the Pearl Harbor Switch. The whole reason for the War on Terror and everything that flowed from it was to keep that switch from flipping. It barely succeeded. If it had flipped, you and I would not be having this conversation now. You would be staring out from between the cold strands of a prison-camp barbed-wire fence, or worse, while in Mecca the big new Cathedral would be going up on the still faintly-radioactive former site of the Big Box.

My advice to you and all your fellow clit-clippers: Don't Throw That Switch.

Blogger Mindstorm December 13, 2014 3:30 PM  

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Terror
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Christians_in_the_Soviet_Union

Not the first, not the last... not even especially significant, compared to the examples above.

Anonymous Curtis December 13, 2014 3:39 PM  

The whole reason for the War on Terror and everything that flowed from it was to keep that switch from flipping.

Ha! Right. Cry havoc, and let slip the dogs of war!

To funny.

Let me see if I got this right. The whole plan of ousting Saddam, Gaddafi, Assad, etc., was to destroy the infrastructure that kept the rats in their holes, that they may escape and be eradicated in the sunlight!

No! Wait! It was a brilliant plan! It's just that we don't know 4GW! Wink. Wink-Wink.

Anonymous Curtis December 13, 2014 3:41 PM  

Right out of Jen Psaki's mouth.

Blogger Danby December 13, 2014 3:44 PM  

@Shibes
A couple of quotes to illustrate your point:
"You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for five years because they didn't wear a veil. You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them. Actually it's quite fun to fight them, you know. It's a hell of a hoot. It's fun to shoot some people. I'll be right up there with you. I like brawling. "
"I come in peace. I didn’t bring artillery. But I’m pleading with you, with tears in my eyes: If you fuck with me, I’ll kill you all."

--General James Mattis

Blogger Danby December 13, 2014 3:47 PM  

@Curtis,
The whole point of invading Iraq and busting Saddam was that he had tried to have Bush the Elder assassinated.
Granted the neocons (militarist Jews and their sycophants, mostly) thought they could remake Irq into a democracy, when traditional American habit would have been to find a better strong man to put in charge, so the whole thing was screwed up.

Anonymous LES December 13, 2014 3:52 PM  

The US backed Saddam in the Iraq-Iran war and Israel supported Iran. The whole plan is to take out Iran for the benefit of Israel. The US put Saddam in power and kept him there until he started selling oil on the black market.

Anonymous Curtis December 13, 2014 3:53 PM  

A couple of quotes to illustrate your point:

We should invade Germany again. Because there is rape in Germany. Pedophilia in Germany. Etc.

Anonymous Curtis December 13, 2014 3:55 PM  

@Danby

And you buy that?

Anonymous LES December 13, 2014 3:57 PM  

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/09/isis-common-maos-red-guards-khmer-rouge-muslim-empires-antiquity.html

Why don’t we hear Muslims condemning the barbarian ISIS terrorists?

Turns out they are loudly condemning ISIS … but our press isn’t covering it.

Anonymous Godwin December 13, 2014 4:06 PM  

Hi Danby, you look pretty today.

Blogger Danby December 13, 2014 4:07 PM  

Whether I buy it or you buy it, or not is of no particular importance. I come from 14 generations of Irish soldiers. War is what we do.

What we're telling you is that when the gloves come off, the old Celtic and Germanic blood still runs in American veins. We love a good fight, and we have no compunctions about it at all. At ALL. We will hunt you down, we will kill you, with our bare hands if that's all we have, and we will pose for silly pictures with your corpse. We will burn down your house with your family inside.We will send a drone to take out the funeral procession. The idea that Americans are incapable of Ethnic Cleansing or total war is simple nonsense.

Really you stupid camel-humpers should be glad we're Christians, because that's historically been the only limit to our violence.

And no, we won't invade Germany. But if we did, we'd enjoy the hell out of it. Not because they're rapists, but because they're fucking mindless robots that need killing.

Blogger Danby December 13, 2014 4:09 PM  

@Godwin
Shut up Tad.

Anonymous kfg December 13, 2014 4:17 PM  

" I come from 14 generations of Irish soldiers. War is what we do."

These days will be remembered, by America's noble sons.
If it hadn'ta been for Irishmen, what would your Union done?
Hand to hand we fought 'em, all in the burning sun.
Stripped to the pants, we did advance, at the Battle of Bull Run.

Remember Cremona!

Anonymous Ain December 13, 2014 4:23 PM  

"I also believe you overestimate the hatred Islamic nations have for Christians. A couple of churches more won't faze anyone. It's the proselytizing that pisses people off."

That's the whole point of being a Christian.

Blogger Tom Kratman December 13, 2014 5:10 PM  

"Hadith cannot just be ignored I'm afraid. Most of these are pretty context driven though, I believe. Like the one about Muhammad being ambivalent about collateral damage to kids. Arguably, that was restricted to their mortal enemies, the Meccan pagans. Some thing with that one Koranic verse that people say is an open ended order to kill infidels which I find absurd."

Tommy:

Well, I'm not an Islamic scholar of any note, just an interested observer. As I understand it, though, and coming from folk who ARE Islamic scholars, albeit Koranic ones, the theological problem with Sunna and Hadiths is this: The Koran is either the complete and sufficient word of God, perfect in itself, or it is not. If it is not, then the whole thing - Islam - is a fraud. If Islam is not a fraud, then the Koran is the complete, sufficient, and perfect word of God, and needs no commentary or elaboration. Indeed, it is heresy, blasphemy, and an insult to the Almighty to suggest so.

That, like Islam itself, seems to come in different flavors and degrees. Some sects merely limit the Hadiths and Sunna, either slightly ort severely. Some toss them entirely. I commend to you Ghulam Ahmed Pervez, who is likely to resonate better with you than with me, or me with you.

Blogger Tom Kratman December 13, 2014 5:14 PM  

"Our ancestors wiped out the Neanderthals to the last man."

And why not? After all, they were just midgets standing on the toes of giants, anyway.

hahahahahahahaha.

Anonymous DNW December 13, 2014 5:17 PM  

" Tommy Hass December 13, 2014 2:42 PM

" "Have to accept", because ...?"

Don't be stupid. Christians should do the same. "


You presented a conditional, which might be called a "hypothetical", except for the fact that the existentially desperate position of Christians as a class in the Middle East, is nothing like a "hypothetical" as the term is used in general conversation, rather than logic.

You wrote: "If Muslims accept a role that Christians have to accept in the Orient ..."

My two part question was, 1st, implied: Just what role do Christians "have to accept in the Orient"?; and 2nd, and explicitly: Why?

It's straightforward enough.

You've obviously got some assumption working away below the surface there, and I thought that I'd simply come right out and ask just what that assumption regarding the role which you think Christians have to accept in the Orient, was.

You however, seem determined to avoid laying out exactly what it was that you meant in referring - and apparently approvingly - to the, "role Christians have to accept in the Orient".

Wasn't a trick question ...

Anonymous 11B December 13, 2014 5:29 PM  

I can guarantee you that right now, right this very minute, that there exists somewhere in the Pentagon a detailed, step-by-step plan for the destruction of Islam by means of military force, from the Ka'aba right down to the shabbiest plywood schwarma stand in Karachi. Do you really think that the United States lacks the capacity to carry out this plan? There are weapons in existence of which most people could never dream that could do the job in an afternoon.

If such a plan exists, I doubt its purpose is to defend Europe, the United States or Christians. I would bet its purpose is to save an entirely different sort of people in a non-European land.

Anonymous Eric the Red December 13, 2014 5:39 PM  

Driveling moslem apologists such as T. Hass should be driven out of Western society, and moved forcibly or otherwise to rancid moslem mideast hellholes where the local imam will give them the choice to either stop being apostates or suffer the consequences. All other moslems who think beheading of infidels is good fun should be eradicated from this earth, thus to face the torments of hell.

However, in order for any of the above to happen, Western Christians must stop passively waiting for the Millennium to occur. Face it, most of them think that the recurrence of a Jewish state means that Armageddon is just around the corner. Even if they didn't think that, there is an more basic problem that cuts to the core of Christ's teachings and Christianity itself: if a Christian is supposed to passively forgive someone who does harm to them seventy times seven, then no active resistance including death to the perpetrator will ever occur. That is the crux of everything we've seen so far as our society crumbles, and everything we may see in the future.

Personally, I can't parse Christ's message to overcome this conundrum, and thus I cannot be a Christian if it means not defending myself and my loved ones from the unadulterated evil that true islam has always been and always will be. If anyone here has a viable solution to this existential problem, then I'd be happy to hear it.

Anonymous cheddarman December 13, 2014 5:41 PM  

When the bloodletting starts, I hope those responsible for the importation of the 3rd world hordes get their just reward.

Anonymous takin' a look December 13, 2014 5:45 PM  

Tommy Hass-

Those people were sodomites, presumably. You know what God did with Sodom, do you?

He wiped those fucking pieces of shit opium and wormwood dealers out. Remember when Jesus refused the vinegar-wine water mixed with opium and wormwood? His physical form would be incapable of communion with the Father when He took all the sins of the world into himself. If Jesus would be cut off from the Father, think what would it be like for normal mortals.

Sodom and Gomorrah had virtually everyone involved in the drugs-trade. Lot and Abraham escaped God's wrath only because they sold medicinal opium. As the Lord said, all herbs are for us to use, but like any other tool, they can be abused.

Anonymous zippo December 13, 2014 5:48 PM  

@Tom K -- while I understand your reasoning re the Koran, I think there is more than one way to view it. As a counterexample, orthodox Jews believe the Torah is the literal word of God, yet they have no problem with interpretation and commentary, and don't view such things as an affront to the Almighty. I have no opinion about the Sunna and hadiths, but it seems to me their use is reasonable: Islam is a total system which dictates practices for all aspects of human life, and so implementation of such a system, which is as political and military as it is spiritual, might require real-world examples of how to actually do certain things in an authentically Islamic way. I'm not really contradicting you, just entertaining different perspectives.

Anonymous George of the Jungle December 13, 2014 5:52 PM  

moooslims... at your throat, or at your feet.

Anonymous Curtis December 13, 2014 6:05 PM  

Whether I buy it or you buy it, or not is of no particular importance. I come from 14 generations of Irish soldiers. War is what we do.

Yeah. Whatever. Thump-thump.

And no, we won't invade Germany. But if we did, we'd enjoy the hell out of it. Not because they're rapists, but because they're fucking mindless robots that need killing.

USA! USA! USA!

Laughing my ass off. What do you think America is?

http://youtu.be/EAkxix31aJI

Blogger Danby December 13, 2014 6:06 PM  

Eric,
The Christian imperative is not what you think it is. Modern people confuse forgiveness with passivity, when it is anything but.

Forgiveness is not automatic, but rather the product of repentance. Just as God will not forgive the unrepentant sinner, we need not forgive those who have not repented of their sins against us. Someone who has attacked us and is attacking us, has not repented, and may be dealt with summarily

Second, forgiveness is the internal posture of the soul. We give up our debt of vengeance against the perpetrator. That does not mean we trust them, nor that they are not to be punished. In fact, the mark of a Christian who has repented his sin is that he 1) apologizes 2) tries to make good and 3) accepts his punishment, even unto death.

The basic rule is that God will forgive us as we forgive others, In fact, that's the last request of the Lord's Prayer, "Forgive us our debt (sins) as we forgive those our debtors (those who have sinned against us).

Anonymous Eric the Red December 13, 2014 6:12 PM  

Danby, thanks for your response, but I still don't understand.

If I deal with a sinner summarily, have I then committed a sin for which I must accept subsequent punishment? Again, if I deal with a sinner summarily, have I somehow also forgiven him?

Your initial response seems to exacerbate the original problem instead of providing any resolution.

Blogger Danby December 13, 2014 6:13 PM  

@Curtis,
America is the working and lower middle classes. That is, Anglo, Irish/Scots, German and Scandinavian ethnics. Everyone else, including your sorry ass, is a parasite. If the parasites don't kill us, (which they still may, but I see hopeful signs) they will be driven out. Or drowned

Blogger Danby December 13, 2014 6:24 PM  

1) Self-defense, and the defense of others is always permissible provided
a) the response is proportionate. No klling people for internet comments
b) the threat is imminent, not hypothetical.
2) Punishing the guilty is always permissible. It is always preferred that the secular authorities do so, as that is really their only Godly function, and an orderly society is a Good Thing.
3) if someone asks for forgiveness, and is truly repentant, as near as you can tell, then you must forgive him. That doesn't mean you trust him, as people are sinners and backsliders, and you may be wrong. He is still subject to punishment.if he has committed a crime. In fact (at least for Catholics) his earthly punishment exists to help him work out his debts to God.
Forgiveness doe not mean no punishment. It means no vengaeance.

Anonymous Eric the Red December 13, 2014 6:40 PM  

Danby, I appreciate your responses.

My confusion persists... are you saying that my attitude must not be vengeful, otherwise I am committing a sin by killing the unrighteous?

Also, the reality of a war does not lend itself to your recommendations. Neither I nor any army will have the luxury of confronting individual enemies, capturing them, giving them a chance to confess and be absolved, then punishing them if they do not. As with all the great Christian apologists (and I deeply admire them), theory and reality are many times incompatible.

BTW, I have tried to become a Christian all my life. However, I have never received the gift of the Holy Spirit. Alternatively, I have never been able to resolve the intellectual problems I perceive with Christ's teachings in the New Testament, and God's apparent fickleness and broken promises in the Old Testament (e.g., despite God's promise the Flood was not effective enough to prevent the resurgence of evil perpetrated by spiritual beings other than man). I don't want this to sidetrack the problem I originally proposed. I guess in a spiritual sense, woe is me.

Blogger Tom Kratman December 13, 2014 6:51 PM  

Zippo, interestingly, there's a Jewish sect, not large, that rejects all commentary and interpretation, too.

Blogger Danby December 13, 2014 7:02 PM  

@Eric
Who the hell said anything about "capturing the enemy, giving them a chance to confess, and be absolved" and then punishing them?
You're taking what I say, which is the very conventional Christian understanding of forgiveness, which is explained quite thoroughly in both ancient and modern texts, and larding in a bunch of obvious nonsense, then telling me you can't accept it.
Presuming you're not trolling me, which is my honest feeling at this point, I would have to say that the reason you haven't been able to accept Christianity is because you keep shoving in stuff that's not there and saying it's unreasonable.
I don't know what you've been reading, but we have 2000 years of the most intelligent and rational discussion on all these topics by the most educated and rational men in history. If you can't be bothered to read that's not Christianity's fault.

Anonymous zippo December 13, 2014 7:12 PM  

Christianity is interesting (and true) because it is simultaneously both rational and mystical. If you are having difficulty with the rational aspect, perhaps you could emphasize the mystical, and that would lead you back to the rational element with more clarity and confidence. Prayer is powerful; begin there rather than with a philosophy text.

As Jesus said, Ask and it shall be given unto you.

Anonymous VanDerMerwe December 13, 2014 7:25 PM  

"America is the working and lower middle classes. That is, Anglo, Irish/Scots, German and Scandinavian ethnics. Everyone else, including your sorry ass, is a parasite."

"America is the working and lower middle classes. That is, Anglo, Irish/Scots, German and Scandinavian ethnics. Everyone else, including your sorry ass, is a parasite."

I bet many of the other pure American ethnicities will say Irish are parasites too.

But Mr Hass, this also tells you why Sobieski is not mentioned. He's just a lazy, low IQ, "Polak", would be parasite.



Anonymous Curtis December 13, 2014 7:41 PM  

@Curtis,
America is the working and lower middle classes. That is, Anglo, Irish/Scots, German and Scandinavian ethnics. Everyone else, including your sorry ass, is a parasite. If the parasites don't kill us, (which they still may, but I see hopeful signs) they will be driven out. Or drowned


That is just so special! I can't help but wonder how you came to the conclusion, except for me-self as you so pointed out, that working and lower middle class Anglo, Irish/Scots, German and Scandinavian ethnics, are the saviors, of not just America, but possibly the world.

Being 55 years old, in that span of time, I know where we once were. I know where we are. I can only imagine where we will be.

But never be fear laddie, the working and lower middle class Anglo, Irish/Scots, German and Scandinavian ethnics, are the saviors, of not just America, but possibly the world.

Unbeknownst to all but you, they have vowed a secret oath and cursed all shiny objects, and they are secretly working in the shadows to defeat the evil doers of the world to bring truth, justice, and the American way back in vogue like a thousand points of light on a mighty hill for all the world to see! And at the end of their leashes I might add!

Just around the corner! Right after shopping the holiday season! After a beer! Just as soon as Dancing with the stars is over! Popcorn! Then the slaughter! Oops, but no vengeance! Wait until all are fully encased in the evildoers reality they are building all around us and when they come to beat us, don't kill them, just beat them, unless you are one hundred percent sure they are trying to kill you!

People just do not want to face reality. Well, unless it is crafted for them. In that case, if they don't like that aspect of that reality, they'll bark at the end of their leashes.

It is entirely possible that there will be a big fat in your face wake up, but even then, those working and lower middle class Anglo, Irish/Scots, German and Scandinavian ethnics that you speak of, will fall to their knees.

Sorry to burst your bubble.

Anonymous Anonymous December 13, 2014 8:43 PM  

Right demographic replacement was done by a group of people numbering less than a thousand and vox day started Muslim hatred of everything no muslin. Right.

Anonymous zen0 December 13, 2014 8:45 PM  

"I also believe you overestimate the hatred Islamic nations have for Christians. A couple of churches more won't faze anyone. It's the proselytizing that pisses people off."

Sure. A few more churches, no problem. As long as they pay a special tax, have no legal rights in disputes with muslims, and make sure their spires are lower than minarets.

The most enjoyable part is the attempt to find a moral equivalency in being an annoyance to cutting people's heads off.

In Christianity, those children are Christian martyrs. In Islam, if the head-choppers were killed in the act, they would be Islamic martyrs, or , shahids.

Big difference.

Either Tommy is being disingenuous or he does not know Islamic history.


Anonymous FP December 13, 2014 10:25 PM  

Tommy: "That's Jews, not us. Your immunodeficiency is not our moral crisis."

CAIR is jewish now? If you say so.

Anonymous Curtis December 13, 2014 10:35 PM  

Maybe Christian to Christian you may be able to pontificate, depending on the Christian you are talking with/about. But let's face it, here in America, 50,000,000 children have been torn apart limb by limb, had their heads pulled off the bodies, solution burned, and etc.

Oh. The outrage!

Yeah. I know. Moral equivalency.

We want to go ver there and go all crusader. When we can't even cross the street and burn an abortion mill down and then take on the man in defense of the abortion mill.

It is sickening, really.

Blogger Danby December 13, 2014 11:43 PM  

@Curtis,
For all the fecklessness and weakness you see in the current crop of American boys, you are worse than all of them. For they might fight if put to the test. Appearances are acknowledged to be deceiving. You however have already declared the pointlessness of the fight, and are busily counseling others to surrender. That makes you the weakest of the batch. And, in the event of a real fight, sets you up for the status of traitor.

Well, you can be useless and effeminate. the men among us won't be. And while you are jacking off into your Mammy's soiled panties, we will not be missing you from the fight. You would be of no more earthly use there than you are in the status quo.

Oh, and Shut Up Tad

Blogger Shibes Meadow December 13, 2014 11:44 PM  

Curtis makes an excellent point. If America were a Christian nation, there wouldn't be an abortion mill standing anywhere in the country, and any doctor that performed an abortion would be a felon.

Anonymous A.B. Prosper December 14, 2014 4:49 AM  

I get so weary of hearing about the abortion issue in the US , its a huge distraction You can make a moral anti abortion argument if you like Its sound . But if abortion went away you'd really hate the results. The assumption that there were great kids waiting to happen or that we lost generations of potential talent is rubbish. They were by definition unwanted, almost all from people with limited resources and low impulse control and from broken families. Better build a lot of prisons if you get rid of abortion .

Stat wise abortions were 78% Black and Hispanic (NYT) and Abortion patients were at least 50% poor and an unknown amount working class as well. They were regardless of income almost entirely liberal liberal as well and every one a potential Democrat voter,

In essence, abortion improved US eugenics and reduced the size of the Democratic party in one swoop.

The resulting immigrant invasion was simple collusion between the Left who always brings in new voters since they hate actual White or Conservative Americans and were losing its base anyway and the Neo Liberal's on the Right who also hate American workers who have the terminacity to want to be paid decently. It had little to do with any loses from abortion since very few of them would have ended up as anything but low end labor

As for the Islam topic, it does not require religion to fight it, iI understand the desire for a unifying force and its a good one but Christianity isn't even our native faith and its little wonder most of Europe is tired of it. Our future doesn't require we pit one Jewish spin off (Christianity) against another (Islam)) in some eternal duel It requires leadership and will and a respect for their own culture, In essence, we have to rid of universalistic nonsense and embrace something völkisch and a love for our own cultures and ethnicity. That hasn't been allowed since after WW2 but its what we need and if we as various peoples embrace it and see ourselves as under threat it will give us more than enough to handle any and all comers, Islam or anything else. Learn to respect allied cultures and have a Euro Folk don't war with Euro Folk pact and well it will be our century.

Till then, we'll just drift and decay in the state we have, Univeralsistic, Materialistic, Hopeless and Hedonistic


Blogger Tommy Hass December 14, 2014 10:43 PM  

"Tommy, step back and take a look at the topic, muslims systematically slaughtering Christians, and your response, a defense of Islam. You are the poster boy showing how the good/moderate Muslims are part of the problem."

What part of "I don't want to be accused of something I didn't do" do you not get?

I am offering a defence of Islam because Islam, at large, is not guilty as charged. It's really that simple.

"Do you really think that the United States lacks the capacity to carry out this plan?"

I do.

"A couple of quotes to illustrate your point:
"You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for five years because they didn't wear a veil. You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them. Actually it's quite fun to fight them, you know. It's a hell of a hoot. It's fun to shoot some people. I'll be right up there with you. I like brawling. "
"I come in peace. I didn’t bring artillery. But I’m pleading with you, with tears in my eyes: If you fuck with me, I’ll kill you all."
--General James Mattis"

Oh shut it. I don't give a shit about your "entertaining" generals.

Seriously, stop masturbating to your imaginary toughness and bloodthirst. You aren't particularly dangerous or violent compared to the rest of the world.

"Why don’t we hear Muslims condemning the barbarian ISIS terrorists?

Turns out they are loudly condemning ISIS … but our press isn’t covering it."

BUT BUT BUT 800.000 Muslims support ISIS. :(

Blogger Tom Kratman December 15, 2014 12:25 AM  

Ask the German, the Japanese, the Mexicans, or such Indian tribes as still have members extant, Tommy. And we didn't have but two weak nukes for all that. I assure you, there is a streak of viciousness inside western civilization (and western barbarism, for that matter) that it would really be better not to awaken.

Blogger Tommy Hass December 15, 2014 6:05 AM  

That is a matter of competence, not inclination.

I would much rather be attacked by westerners, rather than Indian tribes or Japanese, given equal power. I mean hell, didn't Indians frequently exterminate enemy tribes?

Nobody believes that westerners are cripples when it comes to violence.

Blogger Tom Kratman December 15, 2014 6:17 PM  

It's not so much that, Tommy, as we can be nudged over - and we give frightfully little warning of when that's going to happen - into total fucking unprincipled, unrestrained, homicidal psychopaths, not just as individuals but as entire peoples.

Anonymous Clayton Bigsby December 15, 2014 9:55 PM  

“If you were wise, you would consider your invitation revoked, but we all know you won't. You'll hang around, barking incessantly and making messes on the floor until you are forcibly shown the door. If you're lucky."

Well, it was established by a number of posters that torture is morally abhorrent. So what type of force do you propose?


“If not for oil there would not be a muslim nation with running water.”



And if not for slavery and cotton there would not be a southern with indoor plumbing, either.


“20 years, eh? I just hope I live long enough to shed the blood of our adversaries.”


Leave it our resident bearded bankster to make hit and run comments. You will be the FIRST to go IF and WHEN this “reconquista” occurs.


“Even given all the talk, the USA still self-identifies as Christian to roughly 75%.”



What type of Christian? Evangelical or churchian? Roman Catholic or “shit Protestants”?


“Those who follow weak modern churchianity will probably change their ways for good, after all they follow that illogical form of fake christianity because they follow the world instead of following Christ and they will change their mind in the exact moment the world change. In the exact moment when traditional christianity regains his strenght they will change too.”

You lost me at “illogical form of fake Christianity”.


“Therefore, we either desire a Reconquista (in some form) or we desire our own genocide.”

“We will hunt you down, we will kill you, with our bare hands if that's all we have, and we will pose for silly pictures with your corpse. We will burn down your house with your family inside. We will send a drone to take out the funeral procession.”

Who is “we”? Besides. the most obvious hurdle is that the United States is full of beta males, at least that is what I am told. So, all it takes is for America to be on the verge of collapse via the Muslim scourge, and then these “men” turn into savage killing machines?


Fiction—> “Asians do not understand White people."

Asian wife/White husband marriages show only 4% greater likelihood of divorce by the 10th year of marriage than White/White couples.


Fiction —> “Muslim do not understand Christians.”

http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/christians-muslims-unite-for-justice-over-christians-burned-in-kiln-50619/


“I just want you to realize that Americans (the White, Christian people of this country, not their government) and White Christian people in general are psychologically capable of going from lazy…”

God damn it, Titus, define “white”. Define “Christian”.


“When the bloodletting starts, I hope those responsible for the importation of the 3rd world hordes get their just reward.’


Does that include torture?


“Nobody believes that westerners are cripples when it comes to violence.”

Impotent, not cripples. If this Muslim threat is imminent, then why do not Christian men in droves take up arms and their Bibles and start the slaughter NOW? Because waiting for Martel???

Blogger WildClaw December 16, 2014 12:21 AM  

Reconquista 2.0

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The Goggles suddenly flash a masturbating beauty (some versions female, some male, some tranny, some animal [but never a child] depending of course on the sexual orientation the user signed in with this time). The beauty says "Help I'm being attacked, won't you save me?" The user picks up his X-Box controller, presses Start and is virtually transported to a drone or robots POV. "Damn the [insert whoever is threatening the beauty]" screams the User. The shift lasts 15 minutes and the length and "quality" of the porno at the end is dependent on the number of "enemies" killed.

After "completion" the user takes a gulp of Coca-Cola, "Ahhh, Reconquista 2.0 is so much fun. I love this country and prophet Vox!"

10/10 would play were it not for my religious beliefs. Whomever successfully makes this game would become rich tho.
But in real life, I think the US has the sufficient manpower. But the zeal? Maybe, but seeing how America is a fully secularized nation, I think
Also, many Muslims are pretty secular too and like Christians, can succumb to secularism. However, the problem is when we have a large concentration of 1st and 2nd generation Muslim immigrants in a city or county. Few if any will assimilate.

Blogger WildClaw December 16, 2014 1:31 AM  

referring back to my previous post, I think many would have the capability to do such a thing, but many are also apathetic. However if things got really bad, bloodshed will undoubtedly occur.

What really bothers me is that so many on this forum seem almost eager to start killin' some Muslims. While many zealous Muslims may pose serious problems in a western country, it's wrong to classify all Muslims as terrorists.

Tommy Hass
I have my own idea on solving this problem.
glad to hear some ideas

1. No immigration of Muslims to western countries. Confident countries can permit up to 3% but no more. Those who have more than that already can use various tricks to get rid of them, none hat require massive explusions.
What tricks would that be? Also, why 3%. We know that Muslims have higher birthrates that most other peoples. Also, what is a Muslim? A person who believes in the Qu'ran? A person who comes from a predominately Muslim country?

Mostly, the West would need to cure it's HIV/AIDS and cleanse itself from cultural Marxism. Get religious, patriarchal and ethnocentric again. Make Muslims feel like Christians feel over there. The hardcore ones' will not be able to take it (I've spoken to some of them, they want to go back) Those who can take it will be assimilable.
How do we cure AIDS? How do we solve cultural Marxism at a time when the country is getting more liberal by the year and less religious at the same time? How do we remove the idea of egalitarianism from the subconscious minds of Americans? But most of all, HOW THE HELL DO WE DO ALL OF THIS WHILE THE ELITE ARE IN CONTROL??? They basically shape everything we think we know and believe.

Get religious, patriarchal and ethnocentric again
Yes, and how? Launch an Inquisition? I might remind you that America's only a Christian country on paper. While I love the idea of people converting, It won't happen fast enough. Secularism has taken permanent root.
Patriarchal? After 3 waves of feminism I doubt things will return to Elizabethan or Victorian-era social structure quite as smoothly...or at all. In fact, after reading about the Sexodus, I think that permanent damage has already been done. Better get foreign wives if patriarchal is what you want. Ethnocentric? America was originally British. The only reason it's a European mix is because the Europeans have been able to assimilate. What will we do to people who can't? Is white skin the only requirement? How will we enforce it? I know you don't want ethnic cleansing or expulsion, but there are a lot of black and brown and yellow people here already, sooo.....how???? Are you willing to kill every non-white to maintain ethnocentrism?

2. Stop supporting Israel. (obvious)
Haha..ha.ha... You're funny. In addition to the deluded neocons, the Jewish Democrats, and the people who think that the present Israeli state is part of the prophecy, I don't know how this'll get done. Also: HOW THE CAN CAN WE ACHIEVE THIS WHILE THE CURRENT ELITES ARE STILL IN CHARGE? The Israeli state has been their plan for some time now. The location (smack dead in the middle of Muslim countries) was all planned. In addition, the Zionists didn't mind sacrificing 6 million of their own people to the Nat. Socialists in order to help their plan come into place (notice how it's been taboo to criticize Jews like this in public). SOme ideas (viable ideas) would help.

3. Support stable regimes that oppose terror groups and punish those that don't.
Punish like sanctions? Ha. The regime won't change simply by trade embargos. Military intervention? For some reason, using armed forces to punish regime who can't deal with domestic terror by using foreign terror doesn't seem to attractive. Also, we can't trust the elite to put a good puppet in there.

Blogger WildClaw December 16, 2014 1:32 AM  

4. Should attacks STILL happen, conventional, Dresden like reprisals on a appropriate targets. Maybe sanctions?
I don't know what you mean by this one, but if drone strikes are part of the solution, then I'm against it. Too much collateral damage.

Should solve problems just fine.
In a more perfect world maybe.

But who knows? I'm just a chink that the whites want to exterminate. Better learn Cantonese and head to Hong Kong. It'll be interesting to see how this (re/pre)-Conquista plays out. Hopefully the potential innocent bystanders can leave before the shit hits the fan.

Anonymous Dave December 18, 2014 8:23 PM  

Muslims have been acting the same way in southeast Asia for the last 1300 years, yet Burma, Thailand et al are still Buddhist. Burma may soon deport its entire Muslim population to Bangladesh. I guess Buddhism isn't all smiles and saffron robes.

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