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Monday, December 01, 2014

Operation Arab Sea Lion

Surge in Arabic names this year with Omar, Ali and Ibrahim all in top 100.  For girls, Maryam has shot to number 35, while Nur is new entry. And Muhammad rose astonishing 27 places to claim the number-one spot.

In England.

"Fourth Generation war is also marked by a return to a world of cultures, not merely states, in conflict. We now find ourselves facing the Christian West’s oldest and most steadfast opponent, Islam. After about three centuries on the strategic defensive, following the failure of the second Turkish siege of Vienna in 1683, Islam has resumed the strategic offensive expanding outward in every direction. In Fourth Generation war, invasion by immigration can be at least as dangerous as invasion by a state army."
- William S. Lind, "Understanding 4th Generation War", 1989

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68 Comments:

Blogger JCclimber December 01, 2014 6:23 PM  

The king of the North fights the king of the South, and vice versa, over and over through the centuries, from even before there was Islam.

Just remember that God's final winning kingdom was a stone "cut out without hands", God will take care of the final sorting out of the statue representing Earth's kingdoms in Daniel 2.

Doesn't mean that we have to sit back and think of England, while the culture is being raped, but it also means we should chill out about worrying where this old worn out sin filled planet is going to end up. The final clean up is not going to be our task.

Blogger SamuraiJack December 01, 2014 6:28 PM  

"Dad, I don't wanna play with George anymore. I'm going over to Mohammed's house. They play this fun game where you attach an explosive to your chest and we pretend we kill the infidels. They say I can join their cool club." ......

Blogger The Remnant December 01, 2014 6:34 PM  

It's interesting to consider why the power of the West versus that of Islam has cycled up and down in a sort of inverse relationship. There are plenty of factors, but one of them must be this: success breeds eventual complacency, atheism, and failure, while failure breeds eventual discipline, theism, and success.

Will Durant noted that civilizations are born stoic but die epicurean. Modern Islam is stoic, while the modern West is epicurean.

Blogger Josh December 01, 2014 6:43 PM  

It's interesting to consider why the power of the West versus that of Islam has cycled up and down in a sort of inverse relationship.

Invade the world, invite the world comes to mind...

Anonymous Steve December 01, 2014 6:44 PM  

The Remnant - Agree with the first part. The West has gotten too soft and has been eating its seedcorn since WW2 ended. Of course, a huge part of the decline has been down to us allowing our own freaks and malcontents to undermine our civilisation.

Dunno about the second part. Modern Muzzies seem about as retarded on average as their ancestors did, perhaps more so.

If they were disciplined and stoic, 4 million Jews in Israel wouldn't be able to so easily master about a billion Moslems living in the region.

It's not their best and brightest that swarm to Europe - most of them are on welfare. You meet the odd impressive Mohammedan, but most of them are more like Ali G.

If we turned off the welfare spigot tomorrow most of them would self-deport.

Blogger Rabbi B December 01, 2014 6:53 PM  

Should we be so surprised?

And he will be a wild ass of a man; his hand will be against every man, and every man's hand against him; and he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren (cf. Genesis 16).

Blogger Mr.MantraMan December 01, 2014 6:55 PM  

Sterility is the liberals highest virtue, but that is not a new phenom they simply have taken to it.

Anonymous Steve December 01, 2014 7:02 PM  

"Sterility is the liberals highest virtue"

I think Pope John Paul II was on to something when he wrote about the "culture of death".

Liberals love sterility and death. Abortion, euthanasia, contraception and ecological fantasies about depopulating the Earth get them moist.

The only time they're consistently against death is for people who deserve it: that's why they're against the death penalty for convicted murderers, but for the death penalty when it's administered by a doctor against a helpless unborn child.

Blogger Tommy Hass December 01, 2014 7:04 PM  

"If we turned off the welfare spigot tomorrow most of them would self-deport."

This is what bothers me about the 4GW theory of immigration. Obviously, it's been done before (Cyprus comes to mind), but this is just poor fucks seeking a better life where milk and honey flows. If nobody had hostile intentions in mind when going there, is it really warfare?

My father came because Germans asked for laborers due to their labor shortage. I told him that the Germans made a mistake in allowing family reunions but he is a leftist union man who said that people who have been working multiple decades should be permitted to stay. I asked him if he would allow the same privilege to Syrians or Africans moving to Turkey and he said yes.

Leftists.

I maintain that warfare cannot be the case if the state that governs a country wants you there. Maybe there is a war, but not one between invaders and natives but between government and people.

Blogger Chad December 01, 2014 7:14 PM  

Tommy
You seem to be under the impression it is an either/or scenario. History bears witness to the fact that most wars have multiple sides and are a very messy business.

Anonymous 11B December 01, 2014 7:15 PM  

So what should we make out of the murder yesterday in St. Louis? Do we side with the blacks over the Bosniak?

OpenID luagha December 01, 2014 7:20 PM  

"It's not stealing if they throw it away!" -Ratatouille

Blogger Tommy Hass December 01, 2014 7:21 PM  

"You seem to be under the impression it is an either/or scenario. History bears witness to the fact that most wars have multiple sides and are a very messy business."

But immigrants are not coming against the will of anyone in charge. That is the problem.

I fully admit that the average person in the UK would rather have less immigration. But they aren't in charge. Their government is. if they were in charge of their country, they would deny Muslims entry and immigration would stop.

The MAIN conflict is British government vs British people. I'm saying this because I am convinced Muslims would stop coming if whoever was in charge denied them entry.

Anonymous Steve December 01, 2014 7:22 PM  

Tommy - "this is just poor fucks seeking a better life where milk and honey flows. If nobody had hostile intentions in mind when going there, is it really warfare?"

I dunno. I'm not sure it really matters much what we call it if the end result is the same - swathes of England colonised by Pakistani or Somali rape gangs, for example. No-go areas. People driven out of neighbourhoods. Schools turned into little madrassas.

Also, I don't think their intentions are all that important. The end result is what matters.

I'm pretty sure the average Moslem bears me no ill will, and similarly, I hold no particular grudge against him. But I'm equally convinced that multiculturalism won't last. One group will dominate the others. It is the nature of human tribes, as Christians and other religious minorities in majority-Islamic countries know all too painfully well.

We need have no existential struggle with the Islamic world, but if we continue to suffer population replacement we will soon have nothing but.

"warfare cannot be the case if the state that governs a country wants you there."

Western elites are at war with their own people. Immigrants are their hired mercenaries, whether they realise it or not. The last Labour government in Britain deliberately and with malice aforethought opened the floodgates of immigration because they wanted to "rub the noses" of their white political adversaries in it.

Blogger Tommy Hass December 01, 2014 7:32 PM  

"swathes of England colonised by Pakistani or Somali rape gangs, for example. No-go areas. People driven out of neighbourhoods. Schools turned into little madrassas."

tbh, this doesn't even require deportation of those people. Simply man up and punish them. Look at how Turks deal with Syrian refugees who act up.

I'm not denying that denying Kebab entry to western countries isn't the ideal move, I just think that that fact doesn't necessarily mean that immigration is warfare, in this case.

If somebody kills your family member in a car accident the result is the same as in murder. It's not murder though, because intent matters.

"One group will dominate the others."

This doesn't necessitate slaughter though. If Brits sack up and the Pakis submit, that would be domination without slaughter.

"Western elites are at war with their own people."

I fully agree.

Blogger Tommy Hass December 01, 2014 7:34 PM  

And of course you side with the Bosniak. Muslim or not, he was white.

Anonymous Brain Dead Prog Whistling Past An English Graveyard December 01, 2014 7:35 PM  

Not to worry, old chap, we neutered the Christians, we'll manage the Muslims just as easily.

Anonymous What? December 01, 2014 7:38 PM  

11BSo what should we make out of the murder yesterday in St. Louis? Do we side with the blacks over the Bosniak?

Blacks? What blacks? Those were "youths", right?

Anonymous The Anti-Gnostic December 01, 2014 7:41 PM  

Tommy has a point: the immigrants are mostly (not entirely) blameless; they are who they are. The people who let them in, on the other hand, are traitors.

Anonymous Steve December 01, 2014 7:43 PM  

Tommy - "tbh, this doesn't even require deportation of those people. Simply man up and punish them. Look at how Turks deal with Syrian refugees who act up."

Sure. One of the things that puzzles me about folks in Turkey wanting to join the EU is why anybody would look at the soft-touch, pro-criminal attitude of the EU and its "human rights" obsessions and think "we need some of that!"

"This doesn't necessitate slaughter though. If Brits sack up and the Pakis submit, that would be domination without slaughter"

We're getting close to a demographic tipping point which means something's got to give. Most things in life aren't a zero sum game, as leftists so often suppose, but some things are. We can have British values or Pakistani ones. We can have British law or Sharia law. We can have an England or Airstrip One.

But we can't have both.

I sincerely hope there won't be any slaughter. Between the 7/7 terrorist attacks, the murder of Lee Rigby and others, there's been enough bloodshed already.

Anonymous Salt December 01, 2014 7:55 PM  

success breeds eventual complacency, atheism, and failure, while failure breeds eventual discipline, theism, and success.

When Islam was successful, did it ever breed atheism? Not to my knowledge.

Blogger Northern Hamlet December 01, 2014 8:04 PM  

Vox,

By chance have you read Robert Fisk's The Great War for Civilisation? It discusses in part whether there actually is a clash of civilizations or not.

Blogger Tommy Hass December 01, 2014 8:05 PM  

"Sure. One of the things that puzzles me about folks in Turkey wanting to join the EU is why anybody would look at the soft-touch, pro-criminal attitude of the EU and its "human rights" obsessions and think "we need some of that!""

They saw the EUs economic success and said "We want some of that!"

Most Turks these days don't want to join, I think.

"We're getting close to a demographic tipping point which means something's got to give. Most things in life aren't a zero sum game, as leftists so often suppose, but some things are. We can have British values or Pakistani ones. We can have British law or Sharia law. We can have an England or Airstrip One."

True. I just think that even the Mongolians elected not to sack some places because they submitted. I think Muslims will do the same when Brits finally sack up.

However, Britain is one of the countries most like to savagely butcher us. Pakis are worse than Turks and the British givernment is utterly insane, which prompts people to grab the pitchforks. In Germany, the government is far more sensible and the minorities are more palatable so Germans might be less inclined to recreate Auschwitz.

Not sure about France. They are also more sensible than Brits but they have tons of moors there....

In other words, the fiercer the people the safer the Muslims living in those countries.

Anonymous VD December 01, 2014 8:08 PM  

this is just poor fucks seeking a better life where milk and honey flows. If nobody had hostile intentions in mind when going there, is it really warfare?

Yes.

I maintain that warfare cannot be the case if the state that governs a country wants you there.

That's nice. Let's put your track record against Mr. Lind's, shall we? Don't forget, he anticipated this. He's not merely observing it. He predicted it.

You're not seeing this clearly because you are too emotionally tied to how it might affect you; never mind that it will affect everyone in some way.

I don't think their intentions are all that important. The end result is what matters.

Exactly. That's the horror of it all. People are being led to the slaughter no less mercilessly than the Jews of 70 years ago. But it's always hard to see while it's happening, especially since this is happening on an order of magnitude longer time scale.

Western elites are at war with their own people. Immigrants are their hired mercenaries, whether they realise it or not.

Correct.

The MAIN conflict is British government vs British people. I'm saying this because I am convinced Muslims would stop coming if whoever was in charge denied them entry.

I agree. But it's no longer enough to stop it. There has to be considerable repatriation.

Anonymous Educated Progressive SF December 01, 2014 8:16 PM  

Atheists and the forces of Reason have already responded:

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/11265926/American-Atheists-launch-provocative-campaign-in-religious-Deep-South.html

Blogger Tommy Hass December 01, 2014 8:25 PM  

"You're not seeing this clearly because you are too emotionally tied to how it might affect you; never mind that it will affect everyone in some way."

I don't see how. It's more a difference of opnion. I consider hostile intentions and to be a necessary condition for warfare. You don't. Fair enough.

I also said that immigration can be a military weapon. Tuks used it to potentially gain a larger part of Cyprus, should it reunite. Chinese use it against Tibet I think.

My opinions about the future are not necessarily different from Mr Lind. I am just saying that calling Muslims invaders here is like calling someone killing you a car accident a murderer. Intent isn't trivial.

I suppose it's effects are the same for the native population (or worse) but ethically speaking, the people you are referring to as invaders are superior to ACTUAL invaders.

You don't care about that distinction, but I care about the ethical status of what I or people like me are doing.

I think "aliens" or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_body is a better term because it highlights that they don't belong there while still not blaming them of something unethical. I agree that Muslims in the west are probably a Corpus Alienum, but not invaders, because I think intent counts for the latter but not for the former.

"I agree. But it's no longer enough to stop it. There has to be considerable repatriation."

You don't think a confident West would be capable of dealing with those guys? I dunno. I think you would find them acting up far less and even self deporting if y'all started to act like men. One of the reason for their bad behavior is that Brits/Swedes etc are pretty much asking for it.

Oh well.

Anonymous A.B. Prosper December 01, 2014 8:30 PM  

For the more Pagan inclined

Brothers will fight and kill each other,sisters' children will defile kinship.It is harsh in the world, whoredom rife an axe age, a sword age
—shields are riven—a wind age, a wolf age—before the world goes headlong.No man will have mercy on another.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan December 01, 2014 8:34 PM  

Libtards do not think, the rhetoric mainly exists to shut down thinking, so we supposed free thinkers can not even question this invasion. Reading Kuntsler's ClusterFuckNation blog and one particularly clever leftist main thrusts were to negate any questions while advancing a meme. I think a few years ago an academic type wrote a book about the closing of the American mind, and now I understand why.

Anonymous old coyote December 01, 2014 8:44 PM  

we are confident we will continue to be shot, fired, jailed, lose our families, etc as long as 'elites' want white goyim cattle genocided. call it what you will, "acting like men" means flying in the face of the black helicopters right now. and until the financial collapse/ political collapse ala soviet union, there is no fighting back without suicide. oathkeepers are probably 1/2 fed snitches already- there is no organization to fight with or for. who knows. keep your powder dry.

Blogger Tommy Hass December 01, 2014 8:51 PM  

Sincerely feel for you man.

The best answer is probably, "Start with yourself". Nobody over whom you have more influence than your own body.

Anonymous Godfrey December 01, 2014 9:06 PM  

Can Muslims immigrate to Israel? Why hasn't Israel opened its borders?

Anonymous Sarcophilus December 01, 2014 9:15 PM  

"We now find ourselves facing the Christian West’s oldest and most steadfast opponent, Islam".
While finding ourselves in an anti-Christian society including an intrusive government. Or to put more simply, "Who is 'we'?".

I maintain that warfare cannot be the case if the state that governs a country wants you there.

The legitimate government, or the usurpers on the throne? It depends on whether it is Custer or Sitting Bull who wants you there, and there will be war. If the state itself is waging war against an indigenous minority, hiring mercenaries with promises of being able to stay is itself warfare.

Blogger Shibes Meadow December 01, 2014 9:25 PM  

1. Crusade vs. current Masonic novus ordo within Church; restore traditional order

2. Crusade vs. current Masonic novus ordo political system; restore traditional order

3. ???

4. No Prophet!

Anonymous Anon December 01, 2014 9:45 PM  

"Exactly. That's the horror of it all. People are being led to the slaughter no less mercilessly than the Jews of 70 years ago. But it's always hard to see while it's happening, especially since this is happening on an order of magnitude longer time scale."

Why would anybody subscribe good intentions to a psychopathic "elite"? It's not going to be benevolent for the natives nor the invaders..

Anonymous Will Best December 01, 2014 9:51 PM  

Well those names in the US clocked in under 6,000 for 2013. The Hispanic names however clear 200,000. Hispanic female names are noticeably more popular than boy names. I wonder why that is.

Anonymous 11B December 01, 2014 10:31 PM  

And of course you side with the Bosniak. Muslim or not, he was white.

That's tough for me Tommy. White or not they did sort of abandon their brethren a few hundred years ago, and would probably have been happy to see Ottoman rule stretch across the whole of Europe. I understand you being partial to them. But it's tough. Those guys' forefathers are akin to the traitors we have today who are busily trying to destroy Europe.

Blogger Tommy Hass December 01, 2014 10:52 PM  

This is a race war. In a race war, your skin is your uniform. He was wearing your uniform. QED

Anonymous 11B December 01, 2014 11:12 PM  

This is a race war. In a race war, your skin is your uniform. He was wearing your uniform. QED

I know you are not in the US, but if a white liberal were killed by a black, many whites would probably not mourn. This would be especially true if the liberal was a prominent supporter of third world immigration and the covering up of black crime.

You made good points earlier that the immigrants themselves did not come to the West. The traitors in the West invited them despite the objections of the masses. So these whites do not deserve our support.

As for the Bosniaks they obviously are not in the same league as our traitorous elite. But I still can't embrace them like I do Germans, Serbs, Russians, Italians, etc.

Anonymous Curtis December 01, 2014 11:22 PM  

But they aren't in charge. Their government is. if they were in charge of their country, they would deny Muslims entry and immigration would stop.

That is a lie. But on the other hand: They are acting. They are creating. And we… we bark at the end of our leashes.

“We’re an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you’re studying that reality — judiciously, as you will — we’ll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that’s how things will sort out. We’re history’s actors . . . and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.”

Anonymous Will Best December 01, 2014 11:23 PM  

That's tough for me Tommy. White or not they did sort of abandon their brethren a few hundred years ago, and would probably have been happy to see Ottoman rule stretch across the whole of Europe. I understand you being partial to them. But it's tough. Those guys' forefathers are akin to the traitors we have today who are busily trying to destroy Europe.

Muslims are the greater long term problem. Look at the problems they are causing in Europe and they aren't anywhere near 12% of the population that the blacks are in the US.

You made good points earlier that the immigrants themselves did not come to the West. The traitors in the West invited them despite the objections of the masses. So these whites do not deserve our support.

Hey now. Don't victim blame. Nobody invited them in. We may have left the door open, and the lights on, and gotten drunk and passed out in the parking lot, but no President before this one has said "Hey you all come on in any which way you can and I will make sure you get to stay here".

Anonymous 11B December 01, 2014 11:40 PM  

Hey now. Don't victim blame. Nobody invited them in. We may have left the door open, and the lights on, and gotten drunk and passed out in the parking lot, but no President before this one has said "Hey you all come on in any which way you can and I will make sure you get to stay here".

Unfortunately they did. This precedes Obama. This goes back to the Immigration Act of 1965, and even earlier when court decisions were made and laws passed to allow non-Europeans the right to naturalize. This goes back to those who pushed this propositional-nation notion onto the US.

Obama is just finishing what had already been started. And Obama had didly squat to do with demographic change taking place in Canada, Oz and Europe. Unfortunately the traitors who engineered this where white skin, though their religious convictions may vary.

Blogger Tommy Hass December 02, 2014 12:41 AM  

"Muslims are the greater long term problem. Look at the problems they are causing in Europe and they aren't anywhere near 12% of the population that the blacks are in the US."

If you genuinely believe that 12% Muslims aren't preferable to 12% blacks, you're delusional.

You also commit a logical fallacy. Many Muslims ARE non whites or blacks. Screen out blacks Muslims or Pakis and look at the rest and suddenly the picture changes.

"As for the Bosniaks they obviously are not in the same league as our traitorous elite. But I still can't embrace them like I do Germans, Serbs, Russians, Italians, etc."

You still pick him over those murderous ferals. Come on.

"I know you are not in the US, but if a white liberal were killed by a black, many whites would probably not mourn. This would be especially true if the liberal was a prominent supporter of third world immigration and the covering up of black crime."

Those would be traitorous deserters.

Anonymous Will Best December 02, 2014 2:11 AM  

If you genuinely believe that 12% Muslims aren't preferable to 12% blacks, you're delusional.

You also commit a logical fallacy. Many Muslims ARE non whites or blacks. Screen out blacks Muslims or Pakis and look at the rest and suddenly the picture changes.


You mean like the ones that set a bomb off at the Boston Marathon, shot up Fort Hood or flew some planes into buildings?

Blacks mostly kill each other and destroy their own stuff. They don't organize well, and they are getting their butts handed to them by Hispanics and Hipsters who take over their neighborhoods.

I can't fathom how you could come to the conclusion that it would be preferable to have 1 in 8 people in your country that are hostile to your way of life and have the ability to organize.

Anonymous Harsh December 02, 2014 2:36 AM  

OT: But it's not a hate crime

Anonymous grumpy the grump December 02, 2014 3:34 AM  

Take a look at these pictures:

http://www.msn.com/en-us/travel/holiday-travel/best-places-to-celebrate-christmas/ss-AA70L5k

The architecture. The lights. The sheer visionary beauty and joy of these worlds.

All created by white Christian people.

And now all being handed over, willy-nilly, to shit-colored monkey-people who can never match it, who hate it, who want to destroy it.

At the behest of a Jew-led elite.

There aren't enough pitchforks in the world.....

Anonymous Titus Didius Tacitus December 02, 2014 4:29 AM  

Tommy Hass: "And of course you side with the Bosniak. Muslim or not, he was white."

Yes.

Blogger Markku December 02, 2014 5:57 AM  

Tommy Hass: "And of course you side with the Bosniak. Muslim or not, he was white."

Yep.

If same race: feel instinctive empathy
If race unknown: feel instinctive empathy
If race other: do not feel empathy

http://edition.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/05/27/race.empathy/

Quote:

In the study, which appears in the journal Current Biology, people of Italian and African descent watched short film clips that showed needles pricking black- and white-skinned hands. As they watched, researchers measured the participants' empathy (i.e., their nervous-system activity) by monitoring sensors attached to the same spot on their hands. They also tracked the participants' heart rates and sweat-gland activity, a common measure of emotional response.

"White observers reacted more to the pain of white than black models, and black observers reacted more to the pain of black than white models," says the lead researcher, Alessio Avenanti, Ph.D., an assistant professor of psychology at the University of Bologna.

The researchers also showed clips of a needle pricking a hand painted bright purple. Both the Italian and African participants were more likely to empathize with this intentionally strange-looking hand than with the hand of another race, which implies that the earlier lack of empathy was due to skin color, not just difference. "This is quite important, because it suggests that humans tend to empathize by default unless prejudice is at play," says Avenanti.

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The race war will be CRUEL. Because everybody's a natural born psychopath in it.

Anonymous Titus Didius Tacitus December 02, 2014 6:45 AM  

Tommy Hass: "Many Muslims ARE non whites or blacks."

You'll have to explain how that's a comfort.

Tommy Hass: "Screen out blacks Muslims or Pakis and look at the rest and suddenly the picture changes."

Are you (Muslims) screening them out? No. So in reality the picture doesn't change.

Blogger Rek. December 02, 2014 7:09 AM  

Been the case with Arab names for 5 to 10 years in big European cities. London, Brussels ...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/6194354/Mohammed-is-most-popular-name-for-baby-boys-in-London.html

http://www.smh.com.au/world/mohamed-tops-baby-name-list-in-brussels-20080917-4ikl.html

Statistics from 2009:

Top ten most popular names in the Brussels Region:
Boys: Mohamed (236), Adam (194), Rayan (95), Ayoub (77), Gabriel (73), Alexandre (62), Anas (59), Hamza (59), Nathan (58) and Amine (57)

Girls: Sarah (103), Lina (90), Aya (83), Sara (79), Yasmine (75), Imane (70), Rania (61), Ines (60), Nour (55) and Inès (54)

60% of new born males were given a muslim name. This has been going on for, like I said, a solid 5 years.

Old news.

Anonymous MendoScot December 02, 2014 7:37 AM  

And he will be a wild ass of a man; his hand will be against every man, and every man's hand against him; and he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren (cf. Genesis 16).

Rabbi B, what do you think of this:

And then there’s this. Near the end of Abraham’s life, after Sarah has died, he marries Keturah. According to Midrashic tradition, “Keturah” is actually Hagar’s real name—“Hagar,” the “other,” is just a description. So Abraham doesn’t cut off the counternarrative. He embraces it, takes it into his heart. He lies in bed with it—makes love with Hagar again, and they have many more children.

I'm entirely unfamiliar with the Midrashic tradition, so I don't know if she's blethering.

Blogger Mindstorm December 02, 2014 8:12 AM  

Hmm, it seems that Muslims are unimaginative when it comes to names. Jokes aside, the example above, while very suggestive, are not conclusive enough.

Blogger LP 999/Eliza December 02, 2014 8:18 AM  

The most important wasn't whats smoldering in Ferg but what are the bankers and global cultural warlords aiming at or celebrating.

Blogger LP 999/Eliza December 02, 2014 8:21 AM  

It's relevant news so is Italy's banning batches of flu shots fromt drug maker Novartis'.

Anonymous ZhukovG December 02, 2014 8:53 AM  

Tommy,

American soldiers get their heads filled with propaganda about how they are bringing democracy and liberal western civilization to poor benighted Iraqis and Pashtun. The soldiers don’t think they are invaders, but the people they are ‘liberating’ sure do.

It was probably a similar line that the Ottoman Caliph used with his soldiers.

Of course the Caliph wasn’t interested in bringing the light of Muslim civilization to the backward Europeans any more than our government cares about democracy for Iraqis and Pashtuns. It’s all about political power and empire.

I think it is the people on the receiving end that get to decide if they are being invaded or liberated.

That said, I know that Turks are better able to integrate than other Muslims, but bullets don’t discriminate.

Blogger vashine December 02, 2014 9:52 AM  

Tommy Hass' entire life is one big logical fallacy.

Blogger vashine December 02, 2014 10:01 AM  

"The immigrants are mostly blameless, they are who they are."

This is an essential belief of Liberalism, to deny personal responsibility or accountability. This is done in many forms, be it in the more materialist, deterministic, Darwinist form (it's just their DNA, they can't help it), the Marxist form (they're poor!! they can't be blamed for doing evil because their circumstances push them into it), or more subtle forms like the one above.

None excuse believing, promoting, or perpetuating evil ideas, beliefs, or cultural attitudes or mores.

Once you believe that the perpetrators are merely victims of their own environment, DNA, culture, or even the permissiveness of others, then you stray into Liberalism. You stray away from the God of Abraham and His Son, Christ.

Permissiveness of sin is in and of itself a sin, and plays a large role in many of the world's issues today, but it does not absolve the personal responsibility of billions of individuals choosing to do or promote evil in its various ways. At the end of the day, no matter how powerful the influences, or permissiveness, each and every human will answer to the Creator, for their own choices and actions. God won't say "yeah, you get a pass, it was pretty tough for you in that situation."

Blogger vashine December 02, 2014 10:05 AM  

Turks aren't better able to integrate, they are better able to fool themselves and others into thinking they are civilized and won't bring the full burden of Islam and Sharia Law to bear upon themselves and their new infidel neighbors. Remember, Islam is one massive delusion, and Muslims are the most deluded of them all, especially the "secular" ones who yet still hang on the the nomenclature Muslim, but for why?

Turks bring Sharia just like the rest do, only more slowly. One could say more insidiously, for they live in a greater delusion than other Muslims. They fancy themselves 'better' than the other Muslims, "Western", etc. The end result is the same, though it might take longer.

Anonymous Titus Didius Tacitus December 02, 2014 10:13 AM  

ZhukovG: "American soldiers get their heads filled with propaganda about how they are bringing democracy and liberal western civilization to poor benighted Iraqis and Pashtun. The soldiers don’t think they are invaders, but the people they are ‘liberating’ sure do.

It was probably a similar line that the Ottoman Caliph used with his soldiers."

Hey ZhukovG, in between there's a funnier example that you should remember. The Soviet Union never invaded Afghanistan! Yes that's right. It was invited in.

The communist People's Democratic Party of Afghanistan seized power came to power in the Saur Revolution, instituting the Democratic Republic of Afghanistan from 1978–1987, followed by the Republic of Afghanistan from 1987–1992, instituting progressive reforms including (and not limited to) equal rights to women, universal education (of the kind that inspires Boko Haram with hatred) and State Atheism as the national religion.

Naturally naive Russian soldiers were told that this was all the will of the people, whom they in a spirit of socialist fraternity would assist. (But actually it wasn't quite like that.)

Tommy Hass: "I maintain that warfare cannot be the case if the state that governs a country wants you there."

Well then, there was no Soviet-Afghanistan War.

Tommy Hass: "I fully admit that the average person in the UK would rather have less immigration. But they aren't in charge. Their government is."

The government of Afghanistan wanted the Russians there too. The Afghan people didn't. But they weren't in charge. The government was.

Blogger Dewave December 02, 2014 11:37 AM  

"If nobody had hostile intentions in mind when going there, is it really warfare?"

If they aren't assimilating, they have hostile intentions.

That said, hostile intentions are not necessary to cause harm.

Blogger Dewave December 02, 2014 11:44 AM  

"I maintain that warfare cannot be the case if the state that governs a country wants you there. "

Let's test this against history.

Did Rome ever wind up fighting the barbarian mercenaries? Yes.

Did Mexico wind up at war with the American settlers they invited into Texas? Yes.

There are other examples all throughout history.

Would you agree the Rotherham rape gangs are an example of hostile intentions?

Blogger CarpeOro December 02, 2014 12:15 PM  

"It was probably a similar line that the Ottoman Caliph used with his soldiers. "

No, not really. Check out "Impact of Islam" or any of a myriad of historical works. Islam and the Caliphate are and always have been about the loot. Slaves and/or possessions. Not to mention that the only reason the Europeans targets were backward compared to the Ottomans is because the Ottomans started with a higher base level of civilized subjects - Byzantine and Persian empires. They then proceeded to produce... nothing. The tale of Islam is one of a parasite attacking and depleting the host over time, not assimilating and building upon. Internal forces striving to weaken the West for their own gain have provided a weakened target again for Islam. What happens next is either the destruction of the West or a rebirth.

Blogger LP 999/Eliza December 02, 2014 12:56 PM  



























Wound't it be a hoot if the arabs and feminists adopted my 'Aza'?

Every time a lady spouts creds and careerism they too can call her 'Az A' or AzA, highly recognized worshiped ballbreaker status making pennies cuz its all their work is worth!

'A za' lawyer, 'A za' super duper scientist, 'A za' best ever-ah programmer, I think/feel this is best.





Anonymous 11B December 02, 2014 1:02 PM  

Yep.

If same race: feel instinctive empathy
If race unknown: feel instinctive empathy
If race other: do not feel empathy


That is a good rule if all you see are photos of black or white hands. But in our world we have more information about our potential allies. The Bosniaks and Kosovars are white and virtually indistinguishable from their Serb and Croat neighbors. Bosniaks are even Slavs just like the Serbs and Croats. Yet Bosniaks and Kosovars fought side by side with arab jihadis against Serbs and Croats. And this involved not just receiving material support from the jihadis, but also included standing by a letting the jihadis behead several Serbs and Croats. I could see taking arms from anyone you can if you are in a war. But standing by and letting these non-white, non-European allies of yours behead and desecrate the bodies of your ethnic cousins shows that race does not trump all.

I am agnostic on the Bosniak murdered in St. Louis. I hope his killers are brought to justice. But I do not doubt that Bosniaks would readily side with arab jihadis AGAINST me if it suited them, my white skin be damned. So I am not going to side with them because of their white skin.

If Bosniaks wanted to truly join us then I suggest a first step would be to convert to Christianity.

Anonymous zippo December 02, 2014 2:23 PM  

The guy's status as a Bosniak or a Muslim is irrelevant to us in our own condition here at home. The relevant thing is, his murderers perceived him as white, and they attacked him because he was white. And given the place and time, the odds are that they killed him in reprisal over the whole Ferguson thing. And this was done despite overwhelming evidence that the protesters were and are wrong about virtually all the facts.

The important takeaway for us as white Americans has nothing to do with his nationality or religion, the killers didn't know that. They just wanted a white scalp. And they are representative of the true feelings of a great many blacks.

The meme that has been circulating lately re "Justice for Mike Brown" is that Mike Brown GOT justice. It simply wasn't what they had in mind. They don't actually care about justice, they don't care about the facts, they want revenge.

As Oscar Wilde put it: The rage of Caliban at seeing his own face in the mirror.

Anonymous JB December 02, 2014 5:27 PM  

This just shows how UKIP is missing a trick, focusing their rhetoric on UE immigrants, rather than non UE immigrants...

Blogger Tommy Hass December 02, 2014 6:46 PM  

There is a Turkish saying: "Compared to a Christian, a Kurd is a Muslim." Lol.

Anonymous Anubis December 02, 2014 7:33 PM  

Tommy "This is what bothers me about the 4GW theory of immigration. Obviously, it's been done before (Cyprus comes to mind), but this is just poor fucks seeking a better life where milk and honey flows. If nobody had hostile intentions in mind when going there, is it really warfare?"

You might have a point if not for the Islamic principles of al-hijra didn't preach waging the war of the womb using non mulsim little girls, and jizya didn't mean that non muslims have to pay a tax to support jihad which they consider welfare/dole to be. The BNP leader was arrested for warning that al-hijra was behind the rapes of little indigenous white girls 10 years before the twats where willing to admit they ignored the rapes of 14000 little white girls in one town. Look up Taqiyya and kitman while you are at it.

Anonymous Cail Corishev December 03, 2014 1:14 PM  

American soldiers get their heads filled with propaganda about how they are bringing democracy and liberal western civilization to poor benighted Iraqis and Pashtun.

True. I saw a US Marines recruitment ad on TV last Sunday that was of that type -- a Marine (black, of course) bragging about how his job is to help those who can't defend themselves, with video of food drops, hungry natives, and so on. The Army and Navy ads have been that way for a while, but it was depressing to see it from the Marines, who had previously stuck to their "we'll make a man of you" script.

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