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Tuesday, December 30, 2014

Propaganda and the illusion of defeat

John C. Wright is, to put it mildly, less than entirely enamored of the decision of a children's cartoon to close with a climax celebrating aberrant sexual orientation while simultaneously subverting the traditional hero's journey:
I do not count the judgment of people whose sole qualification to make a judgment is their loud and repeated insistence that they will ignore evidence, suspend their rational faculties, award the verdict to the party they know to be guilty, and condemn the party they know to be innocent.

This, in fact, is what the Leftists hold to be their qualifications to make a moral judgment. Ask any of them. They will tell you repeatedly, so vehemently that one cannot get in a word edgewise, that they make no moral judgments, that making judgments is wrong, and that to make a judgment even in one’s thought is wrong — they call this bigotry, because they call everything by the word that means the opposite of what they really mean.

The people not upset about this are not fans of the show, because to be a fan means to use one’s judgment to judge the show as being well crafted and the story well told. The decision was poor story telling, and that would be obvious – no matter what one’s opinion about the morality or desirability or corrosive effect on society of sexual perversion.

What is the lesson here for little boys and girls watching the show? That every friend of yours, male or female, secretly craves sexual congress with you? That to be a policeman means you can neither have the magical girl nor the attractive rich girl, but you are a big loser, and they go off with each other? That family means nothing, that sex is entertainment and means nothing, that life means nothing, that ergo young women should act like bigmouthed jerks? That a woman in a leadership role is not a princess, prophetess nor priestess but is instead a pervertess?
This perversion is what is at the heart of Pink SF/F. This is what we founded Castalia House to explicitly reject. Perhaps in reading how the Brave New World propaganda has been celebrated, in seeing the praise for "challenging expectations and bravely exploring content outside the scope of children’s television" those who have found the concept difficult to grasp will better understand the correct definition of Pink SF/F.

Pink SF/F is a Left-wing literary subgenre written as racial, sexual, and ideological propaganda in order to subvert traditional literature, religion, and society.

Substitute "cartoon" or whatever relevant medium for "literature" as you see fit. It should be readily apparent that the media praise for Team Avatar is an open confession that what the team was selling was neither art nor children's entertainment, but propaganda intended to "change the world" in the guise of the former. And the world they intend to change is yours and your children's.

But we don't have to accept this. On Twitter yesterday, someone lamented that our explicit recognition of the Blue/Pink SF divide was the further Fox-ification of science fiction. And they are correct. That is happening. Here is the good news: in this analogy, we are Fox.

Notice that the Pink SF/Fers have media support in the Guardian (in the form of precisely two outside contributors), which they rely upon to make it appear that they are the more numerous and powerful side. So observe these newly audited figures from the UK media:

Daily Mail: 1,660,100
Telegraph: 498,484
Guardian: 177,000

Not only that, but the Guardian is down more than 10 percent year-on-year and has a circulation that is less than half what it was ten years ago.

What is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to believe the illusion that evil has already won. But it hasn't, even if sometimes it feels as if it has. But here is the important point to keep in mind: Team Avatar had to wait until the very end to spring their retrofitted Pink Cartoon propaganda on its fans, because otherwise those fans would not have existed in the first place.

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Anonymous kh123 December 30, 2014 5:42 AM  

...As was discussed elsewhere, you'd think the LGBT community would be upset that they'd be portrayed nothing more than a shock value tag-on to the tail end of a series. Yes, Mr Warhol, your camp is essentially the 21st Century's equivalent of blackface entertainment for the whole family.

On a side note, the show runners who wrote and selectively storyboarded on episodes were, word has it, egotistical ball busters. "This didn't match my vision, you let me down." Lower tier board artist: "Maybe you should have provided the character, prop, or background designs first..."

Anonymous TroperA December 30, 2014 6:06 AM  

This was one of the reasons I preferred Japanese anime to Western cartoons for many years. If a gay character was introduced, it was usually for a variety of reasons:

1. To add a memorable quirk to a character to make them stand out in the mind of the viewer. (This was often done to villains as a way to make them seem more uncanny and unnatural to an audience.)

2. To create comic relief (ie: have the gay character chasing after the decidedly uninterested main character)

3. To pander to the Yuri and Yaoi-tards. (Mostly teenaged girls whose only experience with homosexuals is the sassy, crazy-haired Pet Gay in their theater group who listens to them yammer on about boyfriends and fashion over lunch.)

As far as I know, gay characters were NOT introduced so that the showrunners could signal their Progressive loyalties to the PC Gestapo. (I don't think Japan HAD a PC Gestapo during the 1990's, which is when I did most of my anime watching. The Ninja Scroll movie alone would've caused headsplosions in at least 97 percent of the radical feminists who watched it. I highly doubt you could get a college Otaku Club to screen the movie on campus today.)

Not sure if homosexuality has been "agendasized" in the Japanese anime of today, but I would guess things are trending that way, since Western culture influences everything eventuallly...

Blogger Cataline Sergius December 30, 2014 6:23 AM  

So Korra is actually a lesbian. Terrific just fucking, terrific. Avatar, while not something I would have watched of my own accord, was a good show. I didn't mind watching it with my daughters.

Now what is the damn lesson here for them. As soon your first boy/girl romance doesn't work out, you should really give lesbianism a shot?

From the producers blog:

No, not everyone is queer, but the other side of that coin is that not everyone is straight. The more Korra and Asami’s relationship progressed, the more the idea of a romance between them organically blossomed for us.

Gamma. Fucking. Projection

It's inconceivable that friendship with a good looking girl doesn't turn into romance. That's the only way, one of them can hope to get the girl. So naturally, that's how the girl gets the girl.

We did it for all our queer friends, family, and colleagues. It is long over due that our media (including children’s media) stops treating non-heterosexual people as nonexistent, or as something merely to be mocked. I’m only sorry it took us so long to have this kind of representation in one of our stories.

Oh, now we are being brave are we? Instead of being an absolute artistic fucking sell out!

And that is exactly what those guys are. A few prog blog comments and they rolled over for the Pink Machine. There was every reason for Korra to need a female friend. That worked in context. There was no reason, she needed a lesbian because and I don't know how to state it more clearly than this. Korra as depicted was never a lesbian. That vibe was not at all there.

And this is all on Nickelodeon. A children's network where the boy-cow has udders.

Well the Xena/Gabrielle/Willow fans now have a show they can watch with their non-existent kids. And I of course am now stuck watching the unwatchable new Veggie Tales on Netflix.

Anonymous Porphyry December 30, 2014 6:27 AM  

Well what's worse is reading the comments on the link from Johns page.

Anonymous Smokey December 30, 2014 6:29 AM  

Considering that both Legend of Korra and Avatar: The Last Airbender are full-on SJW, with some unintentional, occasional subversions, I'm not sure why Wright is so damn surprised.

1) The entire cartoon basically glorifies Korra at the expense of everyone else, and is the ultimate example of a goddess-heroine. Literally no-one is capable to standing up to her, unless it's due to some plot convenience. Hell, the ending of the cartoon is basically affirmation of this status.

2) Young male characters are frequently depicted as comically inferior to their female, same-age counterparts. Zuko and Sokka, Mako and Bolin. More SJW bullshit about GRRL! power, and so on and so forth.

3) It's a Westernized attempt at anime. Obviously, it's going to have a Westernized view of things. Half of the stuff occurring in lots of actual anime would draw howls of derision at the sheer "sexism, bigotry, blah, blah, blah..." from the SJW sector.

Of course, there is some occasional subversive stuff, but that often strikes me as an accident. In general, the Avatar universe leans heavily towards leftist stuff, particularly of the social justice variety. Nothing to be surprised about.

Considering the show has been under heavy fire from the fandom for incredibly shitty writing, the lesbianism was basically thrown in to garner praised from the SJW sector, and try to deflect criticism with "HOMOPHOBIA!" remarks (seriously, check out the interview with the creators, they only just stop short of calling everyone in the fandom dissatisfied with the ending bigots).

And gay stuff has been around in cartoons for a while. Legend of Korra is not even close enough to being as revolutionary as it wants to be portrayed. Compared to something like the Venture Bros. this crap is downright tame.

Basically, the creators are egoistical wankers. Only their bootlickers have realized it just recently, instead of years ago.

Anonymous Smokey December 30, 2014 6:32 AM  

Also, I laugh at the unintentional subtext that Mako's dick turned Korra and Asami into lesbians. Not only was their "friendship" basically entirely consistent of heavy-handed, sentimental declarations, but the "romance" was apparently not even considered until they were already at the end of production, and desperately needed a trump card.

Anonymous kh123 December 30, 2014 6:33 AM  

"Well the Xena/Gabrielle/Willow fans now have a show they can watch with their non-existent kids."

Now that's going to leave a mark.

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Anonymous My Dead Gramps December 30, 2014 7:53 AM  

"We did it for all our queer friends, family, and colleagues. It is long over due that our media (including children’s media) stops treating non-heterosexual people as nonexistent, or as something merely to be mocked."

No, but when we make up <1% of the population, being constantly inundated with something that's so obviously contrived JUST for our benefit it isn't inclusive, it isn't progressive, it's fucking patronizing.

And then they scratch their heads and wonder why people like Milo Yiannopoulos exist and actively fight against this kind of nonsense.

Blogger Josh December 30, 2014 7:54 AM  

Wait, someone is shocked that an anime show ends with a lesbian pairing?

Anonymous My Dead Gramps December 30, 2014 8:04 AM  

Not the wholesome, purely for male pleasure despite everything being pixelated kind.

Blogger Josh December 30, 2014 8:14 AM  

That to be a policeman means you can neither have the magical girl nor the attractive rich girl, but you are a big loser, and they go off with each other?

Perhaps he is starting to get it?

Blogger Alexander Thompson December 30, 2014 8:30 AM  

The multiculturalism of the hereos and the villians didn't warn you of a sucker punch? The Fire Nation looks a hell of a lot paler than everyone else...

Blogger Chris Mallory December 30, 2014 8:36 AM  

This is like staring into a sewer and being surprised that you see sewage.

Anonymous Crude December 30, 2014 8:39 AM  

I'm glad to see people at John's site pointing out that this sort of thing continues to undermine the vision of friendship. An important point I was worried many would miss.

I won't say LoK was some shitty show - it had some good moments, some fun characters. Varrick was a pleasant surprise, since I was almost positive the aggressively capitalist character would turn out to be a villain, and his fun personality just a cover. The suggestions I've seen made that Korra was some kind of Mary Sue character don't wash, since she was almost comically inept. The pairing at the end is unfortunate, but so out of nowhere ('But there were hints!' they cried - see the friendship comment) I think it's possible to ignore it for the most part. Not the best show, but still.

That said? I'm wondering how long I'm going to have to wait for a girl-girl pairing in a popular comic or cartoon to be broken up when one or both of the girls fall for a guy. If we're going to start including the 'queer community' more and more in our games and cartoons, then let's include the parts that LGBT activists prefer to never discuss.

Blogger Alexander Thompson December 30, 2014 8:40 AM  

Or even the premis of the first show. "Earth and water good. Fire bad." It oozed hippy dippy Gaia crap.

Anonymous Crude December 30, 2014 8:45 AM  

The multiculturalism of the hereos and the villians didn't warn you of a sucker punch? The Fire Nation looks a hell of a lot paler than everyone else...

They look a hell of a lot more japanese than everyone else, or else the biggest weeaboos ever. White people don't seem to exist in that universe. Nor do black people.

To me the signal that the show was off in SJW-land came between TLA and LoK. Suddenly introducing Multicultural City that was also super-tech-advanced and headed up by Cartoon United Nations indicated to me what was going on. That idiot prince's introduction made it easy for me to call that part of the series' ending, since there was no way Prince Jackass was going to become a capable ruler, and there was no one but vague 'democracy' he could abdicate to.

I still enjoyed some of it, but the idiotic ending did sour it for me. Ah well, we live in an age where all entertainment is either propaganda or potential propaganda.

Anonymous WinstonWebb December 30, 2014 8:47 AM  

If I start watching now, maybe I'll catch the tentacles episode when it inevitably airs.

Anonymous Monkey Boy December 30, 2014 8:58 AM  

The first Avatar wasn't SJW entertainment. Korra was from the very beginning. It was also a vastly inferior show. The girl power thing in the first Avatar that Smokey mentions is not there, he's projecting it onto the show. Some people on the show had magic (for want a better term) powers and some didn't, that was the deceive factor in who won fights. When magic powers are involved conventional male/female fighting standards don't come into play. There was more females in general within the show, which is why it might look like this. There were only really a handful of male characters and one of them had no powers, he was a goofball but was also the most intellectually creative of the team.

The fire nation was the most distinctively Asian looking as well.

Anonymous indpndnt December 30, 2014 8:59 AM  

I also do not understand the surprise at this. AtLA was steeped in "everything men can do GRRRL power can do better". They did it to the point of not making any sense in their universe. Men and women both had super powers, so why would a bending master not teach women? It's not like complimentary sexual dimorphism was an aid for survival (except reproduction) in the universe. There were constant scolds not to be sexist against women, but no mention of the virtue of not being sexist against men.

The only thing that kept me watching was the prince character. His character arc, and being accompanied by a decent male role model, made his part the only really worthwhile sections of the show.

Anonymous NZT December 30, 2014 9:12 AM  

I enjoyed watching the original Avatar show with my nephews back in the day and looked forward to Korra when it got announced. The first season was decent and if they'd left it there (as originally planned) I would have had no complaints, but as they tacked on more and more seasons they got shitty quickly. Ironically the whole point of Korra was supposed to be that it was a miniseries with no filler episodes like the original series sometimes had, but it wound up having entire seasons that were basically filler instead. The Grrrl-power stuff was annoying too, mostly because TV critics would crow about how great it was to see STRONG WOMYN CHARACTERS who could hang with the guys, ignoring the fact that this was due to the story being a fantasy about people with made-up super powers.

The ending definitely came out of nowhere and was extremely obnoxious and propagandistic. The other commenter really said it all: the screenwriter betrays their own screwed-up worldview that a same-sex couple can't just be friends without having it turn romantic. The one silver lining is that it sounds like there was quite a backlash, so good for the fans for calling them out on it.

Anonymous Michael December 30, 2014 9:18 AM  

Sorry, I don't watch cartoons on Nickelodeon, therefore I know nothing about this Avatar show. (Come to think of it, I don't watch any other major network either...)

When I was growing up, there was stuff like He-Man (and She-Ra), Transformers, G.I. Joe, Thundercats, and T.M.N.T. They would also air a lot of the earlier cartoons such as Looney Tunes (unedited for the most part), Scooby Doo, and so forth. Needless to say, I had a normal upbringing.

But now that's all changed. MSM is all run by Marxists whose agenda always remains the same: tear down every Christian nation and erect a communist state on its ruins. No parent should ever allow their children to watch Nickelodeon after what they just did. Targeting the most vulnerable with their sick LGBT agenda is beyond deplorable and it's high time that adults - especially Christian parents - took a stand for what is right.

Blogger Josh December 30, 2014 9:23 AM  

But now that's all changed.

THIS TIME IT'S DIFFERENT!

Blogger Josh December 30, 2014 9:35 AM  

This is like staring into a sewer and being surprised that you see sewage.

Yup.

Blogger JDC December 30, 2014 9:43 AM  

Now what is the damn lesson here for them. As soon your first boy/girl romance doesn't work out, you should really give lesbianism a shot?

The lesson the pink Sci/fi wants to propagate is that all loving relationships, by their definition must involve sex. Because, in the pink mind, no two people could have a deep and loving relationship without them also inserting things into multiple orifices. That's why the liberal theologians have asserted that David must have been gay, because he loved Jonathon. Because love means cramming things into other men's bottoms.

Blogger Cataline Sergius December 30, 2014 9:44 AM  

Avatar: The Legend of Korra

Season 7: The Book Bed Death


Fade in. THIRTY YEARS HAVE PASSED. Flute music plays as a sweeping long shot slowly proceeds through the streets of Republic City. 'My melons' man is now a barker outside of strip club. Junkies are passed out on the streets at noon. Bolin is shaking down a pimp for protection money. The President of the City is giving an impassioned speech to the backs of his police force.

Shot finally settles on an upscale condo in a renovated row house. Through the window we see Korra and Asami. both have gained forty pounds and wear pixie bobs but no make up. They are surrounded by rescue cats as they sit across from each other across an unused game of Go.


Korra (unsmiling): So what do you want to do tonight?

Asami :(unsmiling): I dunno. What do you want to do?

Korra :(unsmiling): I dunno. What do you want to do?

Asami :(unsmiling): I dunno. What do you want to do?

Korra :(unsmiling): I dunno. What do you want to do?

Anonymous Porky December 30, 2014 9:47 AM  

"I made your work a part of my imagination and a part of my life, and introduced your show to my children."

What the hell is wrong with you?

Anonymous Joe December 30, 2014 9:52 AM  

"3) It's a Westernized attempt at anime. Obviously, it's going to have a Westernized view of things. Half of the stuff occurring in lots of actual anime would draw howls of derision at the sheer "sexism, bigotry, blah, blah, blah..." from the SJW sector."

True. Just compare to episode four of Fate/kaleid liner Prisma Illya 2wei! where the "Dark" Illya kisses all the female characters in Illya's school and is labelled a "pervert" for it. Or heck compare it to the last episode of Yuuki Yuuna wa Yuusha de Aru where Yuuna's best friend who always has a crush gets an unrequited response where Yuuna announces that she did it all for her friends (plural). Of course gimmicky yuri anime exist, but quite often it's comic relief, such as Kuroko's amorous advances getting smacked down by Misaka, or a device to keep male romantic interests away for the benefit of the male audience.

Blogger JDC December 30, 2014 9:52 AM  

Is there anything the left loves more than taking a sacred thing, placing it on the ground, and then taking a large steaming dump on it? Marriage, Jesus, the NFL, Science Fiction, Fantasy...for f*** sakes, even Archie.

Anonymous Crude December 30, 2014 9:55 AM  

Is there anything the left loves more than taking a sacred thing, placing it on the ground, and then taking a large steaming dump on it? Marriage, Jesus, the NFL, Science Fiction, Fantasy...for f*** sakes, even Archie.

So do the same right back. They have things that are sacred to them.

Desecrate. And have fun while doing it.

Anonymous Will Best December 30, 2014 10:02 AM  

I am kind of surprised the Christians aren't organized enough to get a black box app/device that sits on your device between your TV and inputs and scrubs the signal for any unapproved shows. That could easily or auto update from any number of family watch councils.

Anyway, one of the nice things about being a cord cut family is, my kids aren't current on any show making it far easier to prescreen stuff. I was kind of looking forward to LoK, but now I know to skip it.

My thoughts on most of the kids programming is that it is overly simplified. "Help others" "Respect everybody" "Don't be aggressive" are fine rules in the general sense and such messages are okay as far as it goes. But pas that kids need to understand many times actively helping people hurts them, evil should never be respected, and in fact it should be aggressively opposed.

Its when kids programing starts to work the second layer in that it becomes problematic.

Blogger JDC December 30, 2014 10:08 AM  

So do the same right back. They have things that are sacred to them.

The obvious problem is that I don't want to touch their sacred things. They tend to be sticky.

Blogger Josh December 30, 2014 10:12 AM  

From Reason's review:

Among Korra’s crowning achievements was her decision to re-open the spirit portals, allowing spirits to mingle with people in both the physical world and the spirit world. While this caused some difficulties, the show firmly pushed the idea that people (and spirits) should not be segregated to the lands of their birth; there is greater balance in the world when everyone in it has the freedom to travel.

Anonymous Crude December 30, 2014 10:17 AM  

The obvious problem is that I don't want to touch their sacred things. They tend to be sticky.

Joke aside, I'm serious. Vox seems like a big proponent of fighting back culturally in the one way that matters - making games and fiction that's Blue, not Pink.

While it may stun or even offend him to read someone saying so, I'd like to see John Wright include (at least what starts as) a lesbian relationship in his writings. I wonder if he could effectively subvert such a thing?

Could he write a gay protagonist who chose chastity and rejected his baser inclinations? Could he do it in a way that worked, that wasn't too hokey?

The list goes on, and far beyond the LGBT circle.

John Wright and Vox could have zero interest in any of this. But if not them, maybe someone else can do it.

I recently read a couple short stories by a gay, celibate Catholic which did something like this. The offense he caused among the few people who read the stories was fascinating, and the stories themselves were entertaining. We need more of that.

Anonymous Porky December 30, 2014 10:23 AM  

"Hey kids... daddy wants to introduce you to some hindu mysticism about a headstrong, rebellious female deity!"

*face palm*

Blogger Chris Ritchie December 30, 2014 10:32 AM  

Found this great article about how the Gay lobby has insinuated itself into our PC culture. We are not morally free if we cannot speak our minds without fear of retribution.

http://thefederalist.com/2014/12/29/for-the-west-christian-hunting-is-the-sport-of-lawmakers-and-judges/

Blogger Chris Ritchie December 30, 2014 10:37 AM  

"Hey kids... daddy wants to introduce you to some hindu mysticism about a headstrong, rebellious female deity!"

*face palm*


Same thing with PBS this weekend. Was watching, I thought innocently, a show on a Sunday afternoon about Vincent Van Gogh:

Narrator: "And unhappy and overwhelmed with life, Van Gogh walked into a field and shot himself."

6 year old daughter: "Daddy, what is 'shooting yourself?'"

*face palm*

This is why we don't watch anything liberal and why we carefully screen everything. Because crap like this sneaks through before we are ready to talk about it. Indeed, before a 6 year old should have to consider it.

I agree with Vox. This isn't tolerance. "They" meaning anyone who doesn't share our Christian values, are on the attack. It is war. It is a war for our children and our families. If we don't forcefully fight back, we will continue the losing pattern we've seen in the past decades. Root out those people from within your organizations. Give them no quarter. Because you can be sure they're not going to be kind to you for your Christian beliefs.

Anonymous Stilicho December 30, 2014 10:49 AM  

Same thing with PBS this weekend.

*face palm*

Was watching, I thought innocently, a show on a Sunday afternoon about Vincent Van Gogh

*face desk*

Anonymous Laz December 30, 2014 11:08 AM  

"And gay stuff has been around in cartoons for a while. Legend of Korra is not even close enough to being as revolutionary as it wants to be portrayed. Compared to something like the Venture Bros. this crap is downright tame."

Venture Bros. is an adult cartoon which is in the middle of a block of adult geared shows and is only shown after a certain time of night.

A better comparison would be Family Guy or American Dad. Both of which have numerous sex and gay jokes and are aired at all times of day.

Blogger Chris Ritchie December 30, 2014 11:09 AM  

Ok Stilicho, pile on. :-) I know. Stupid plan. Believe me, I won't make the mistake of watching PBS again.

But now that's all changed. MSM is all run by Marxists whose agenda always remains the same: tear down every Christian nation and erect a communist state on its ruins. No parent should ever allow their children to watch Nickelodeon after what they just did. Targeting the most vulnerable with their sick LGBT agenda is beyond deplorable and it's high time that adults - especially Christian parents - took a stand for what is right.

To Michael's point though, what is one voice? One boycott? There aren't enough Christian parents doing it. That's the problem with a national culture, or national commercial enterprises. They are so big that small protests are swatted down like gnats. If I have a problem with service at a Chili's restaurant, I don't go back. I wonder what Chili's thinks of that -- they don't care. My business isn't missed. Taking a stand is one thing, but there is only power in numbers. When are we ever going to hit critical mass on an issue?

Take homeschooling for instance. It's still a fringe movement. If it were producing any real damage to the status quo, we'd be seeing laws introduced to ban homeschooling by now. If Christians were really committed, they'd ALL be pulling their children out of public schools and we'd see an openly public battle.

We don't have full cable, just the basic local channels. No Nickelodeon to worry about. So we don't sit around watching general TV. Interestingly, we borrowed some 60's era Tom and Jerry and the violence was appalling. It had been so long since I'd watched it, I didn't realize the lengths they went to in order to kill each other. Good thing they respawned without incident.

Anonymous Cheddarman December 30, 2014 11:10 AM  

Please God, don't let "Hello Kitty" got his way.

Anonymous cheddarman December 30, 2014 11:11 AM  

I meant

Please God, don't let "Hello Kitty" go this way.

Anonymous Porky December 30, 2014 11:16 AM  

"Daddy, what is 'shooting yourself?'"

Good God, you mean you watched it up until the suicide? This means you must have sat through these questions also:

"Daddy, what's syphilis?"
"Daddy, what's an alcoholic prostitute?"
"Daddy, what's absinthe?"
"Daddy, what's gonnorhea?"
"Daddy, what's mental illness?"
"Daddy, why'd that man cut his ear off?"

Blogger Chris Ritchie December 30, 2014 11:17 AM  

Porky - they didn't cover that stuff. We watched only about 5 minutes of it. Perhaps it was covered earlier in the episode. We had just turned it on.

Anonymous Porky December 30, 2014 11:21 AM  

I know...jest yankin' your chain, Chris. :)

Blogger Josh December 30, 2014 11:31 AM  

When are we ever going to hit critical mass on an issue?

Um...chick fil a?

Blogger Josh December 30, 2014 11:35 AM  

Interestingly, we borrowed some 60's era Tom and Jerry and the violence was appalling.

/facepalm

I hope your children never read the bible, what with all the violence and sex portrayed in it.

Anonymous Jill December 30, 2014 11:37 AM  

Same sex friendships stories are archetypal -- making them romantic just seems weird. But even more than that, almost every story ever written has an element of male-female integration. These stories, for obvious reasons, resonate with the human soul or the subconscious mind or whatever you want to call it. I wonder what psychological impact romantic female-female or male-male integration stories will have on us.

Blogger Chris Ritchie December 30, 2014 11:39 AM  

They backed down. Better to focus on profits from less than 5% of the population than support the 99% of their family friendly customers who abhor the gay lifestyle.

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2014/03/18/Chick-fil-A-CEO-admits-it-was-a-mistake-to-oppose-same-sex-marriage/6421395174118/

Chik Fil A let everyone down. Now it's up to small bakeries to stand up to the lobby and bear the brunt of the fight. Pitiful.

Anonymous Stilicho December 30, 2014 11:48 AM  

@Chris, I wasn't aware of Chick Fil A backing down. Was Dan Cathy also the CEO when they took a stand, or was that under the watch of his (recently deceased) father?

Blogger Chris Ritchie December 30, 2014 11:53 AM  

Josh - why do you like picking fights? Get real. You read your children the stories of Onesimus or Achan at 4 and 5 years old right before bed? How about the rape of Tamar by her half-brother. Oh yes, that's real important for a six year old girl to understand RIGHT NOW! That's just not wise.

No. I don't read those parts to them yet. They aren't ready for it.

As for Tom and Jerry, it's not ok for me to remark that I was shocked by the violence? What I was inferring was that by watching all the time, as I did as a kid, I was desensitized to the violence. I thought it was no big deal. After abstaining for awhile, I was not as used to the violence as I used to be. I could say the same thing about the video games today. I used to play a lot of the WW2 shooters on Playstation in the last decade. I don't play as much anymore. I plugged in a newer shooter this year on Playstation 3 - I was taken aback at some of the violence.

So no, Josh, you can't project that I'm some sort of pansy violence hating gamma onto me by a single comment I make about violence in children's cartoon's and then make a sweeping generalization that I am afraid of the violence in the Bible. There is a time and a place for everything, a time for war, and a time for peace - to quote the writer of Ecclesiastes. Right now, it is a time of peace for my children. A time to teach them the God of the Bible can be trusted.

Blogger John Wright December 30, 2014 11:56 AM  

"I'd like to see John Wright include (at least what starts as) a lesbian relationship in his writings. I wonder if he could effectively subvert such a thing?"

What? The bondage and spanking in ORPHANS OF CHAOS was not enough for you? I should have included a scene where Vanity and Amelia kiss.

Blogger Chris Ritchie December 30, 2014 11:58 AM  

@Stilicho - The title of the article I linked has Dan Cathy admitting it was a mistake to take a stand on the gay marriage issue. I interpreted that as backing down, at least publicly. I'm still disappointed they didn't stand strong on their comments. They retreated to the "customer service" mantra. It's ok. It's their choice. But if less than 5% of the population can cow a major corporation like that, what chance do the little people have of successfully standing up to "The Lobby?"

Blogger Josh December 30, 2014 11:59 AM  

They backed down. Better to focus on profits from less than 5% of the population than support the 99% of their family friendly customers who abhor the gay lifestyle.

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2014/03/18/Chick-fil-A-CEO-admits-it-was-a-mistake-to-oppose-same-sex-marriage/6421395174118/

Chik Fil A let everyone down. Now it's up to small bakeries to stand up to the lobby and bear the brunt of the fight. Pitiful.


What did he change? What policies did they change?

Anonymous Crude December 30, 2014 12:00 PM  

What? The bondage and spanking in ORPHANS OF CHAOS was not enough for you? I should have included a scene where Vanity and Amelia kiss.

Jokes aside, I hope you understand what I'm asking for here. I can understand if it's outside the scope of your interests in writing, but I figured I should mention it.

Anonymous Crude December 30, 2014 12:01 PM  

But if less than 5% of the population can cow a major corporation like that, what chance do the little people have of successfully standing up to "The Lobby?"

It's not less than 5%, that's the problem. The whole idea of 'The Gay Agenda' is a misnomer. It's not as if LGBT jackboots call on the support of exclusively LGBT people. Not even in the main.

Blogger Josh December 30, 2014 12:01 PM  

The title of the article I linked has Dan Cathy admitting it was a mistake to take a stand on the gay marriage issue. I interpreted that as backing down, at least publicly. I'm still disappointed they didn't stand strong on their comments.

That's a pretty biased article. He never changed his stance on gay marriage.

Blogger Josh December 30, 2014 12:07 PM  

So no, Josh, you can't project that I'm some sort of pansy violence hating gamma onto me by a single comment I make about violence in children's cartoon's and then make a sweeping generalization that I am afraid of the violence in the Bible.

Dude, it was a joke. Lighten up.

Blogger Chris Ritchie December 30, 2014 12:09 PM  

Crude - what do you mean it's not less than 5%? You mean more than 5% are gay? Or that they have a plurality in the mainstream who support their misguided views on equality?

Josh - He changed his policy on supporting traditional marriage as a company goal. He reverted back to keeping his private beliefs separate from his corporate goals. So, Chik Fil A made a conscious change from supporting traditional families to remaining silent about this political issue. He is focusing on selling chicken. Great. Good for him. I'm just saying that a large advocate like that helps swing attitudes in the marketplace. It's one less chip in the game and I'm sad that we don't have that on our side. But it's a free country. He can do as he likes.

Blogger Nate December 30, 2014 12:11 PM  

"
As for Tom and Jerry, it's not ok for me to remark that I was shocked by the violence? What I was inferring was that by watching all the time, as I did as a kid, I was desensitized to the violence."

Dude. this statement makes you look like exactly like pansy violence hating gamma.

If you don't want to look like a pansy violence hating gamma... don't say things like this.

The violence of tom and jerry or the Warner Brothers cartoons is harmless.

Blogger Josh December 30, 2014 12:11 PM  

Dude...chick fil a never had a corporate policy on the issue. It was always the owner's personal opinion.

And he never said gay marriage was okay.

Anonymous Stilicho December 30, 2014 12:14 PM  

Chis, I read the article you linked. That was the source of my question. Dan Cathy is trying to straddle the fence ("I personally believe it is wrong...but our corporate policy must reflect....blah, blah, blah). I doubt that many of the Christians who so strongly supported Chick Fil A when it was under attack from the Lavender Mafia would be pleased with this behavior, but this concession to the gay agenda didn't receive the widespread publicity that the earlier opposition did. Wikipedia states:

American fast-food chain Chick-fil-A was the focus of controversy following a series of public comments made in June 2012 by chief operating officer Dan Cathy opposing same-sex marriage. This followed reports that Chick-fil-A's charitable endeavor, the S. Truett Cathy-family-operated WinShape Foundation, had made millions in donations to political organizations which oppose LGBT rights. LGBT rights activists called for protests and boycotts of the chain, while counter-protestors rallied in support by eating at the restaurants. National political figures both for and against the actions spoke out and some business partners severed ties with the chain.

Chick-fil-A released a statement in July 2012 stating, "Going forward, our intent is to leave the policy debate over same-sex marriage to the government and political arena."[1] In March 2014, tax filings for 2012 showed the group stopped funding all but one organization which had been previously criticized.[2]...
In response to the controversy, former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee initiated a Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day movement to counter a boycott of Chick-fil-A launched by same-sex marriage activists.[56][57][58] More than 600,000 people RSVPed on Facebook for Huckabee's appreciation event.[57]

On August 1, Chick-fil-A restaurants experienced a large show of public support across the nation with the company reporting record-breaking sales.[56][57][58] A consulting firm projected that the average Chick-fil-A restaurant increased sales by 29.9 percent and had 367 more customers than a typical Wednesday.[59]
Public poll

USA Today conducted a poll asking, "What's your reaction to recent anti-gay comments made by the president of Chick-fil-A?" 53% said they are boycotting, 43% said they would continue to eat their food and 5% were undecided.[60]

In August 2012 Rasmussen Reports published the results of a telephone survey indicating that 61 percent of likely voters held a favorable view of Chick-fil-A, while 13 percent indicated they would participate in a boycott.[61]


Of course, we have all been warned: "15 I know your works, that you are neither cold nor hot: I would you were cold or hot. 16 So then because you are lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spew you out of my mouth."

Anonymous Stilicho December 30, 2014 12:18 PM  

What did he change? What policies did they change?

From Wikipedia:

Chick-fil-A released a statement in July 2012 stating, "Going forward, our intent is to leave the policy debate over same-sex marriage to the government and political arena."[1] In March 2014, tax filings for 2012 showed the group stopped funding all but one organization which had been previously criticized.[2]...
In January 2011, the media reported that the American fast food restaurant chain Chick-fil-A was co-sponsoring a marriage conference along with the Pennsylvania Family Institute (PFI), an organization that had filed an amicus brief against striking down Proposition 8 in California (see Perry v. Brown).[3][4][5][6][7][8] The PFI lobbied against a state effort to ban discrimination in Pennsylvania on the basis of sexual orientation or gender identity.[9] Responding on its official company Facebook page, Chick-fil-A said that support of the PFI retreat had come from a local franchisee, stating "We have determined that one of our independent restaurant operators in Pennsylvania was asked to provide sandwiches to two Art of Marriage video seminars."[10]

The WinShape Foundation, a charitable endeavor of Chick-fil-A founder S. Truett Cathy and his family, stated it would not allow same-sex couples to participate in its marriage retreats.[11][12] Chick-fil-A gave over $8 million to the WinShape Foundation in 2010.[13] Equality Matters, an LGBT watchdog group, published reports of donations by WinShape to various anti-gay organizations, including $2 million in 2009, $1.9 million in 2010 and a total of $5 million since 2003, including grants to the Family Research Council and Georgia Family Council. WinShape has also contributed to the Fellowship of Christian Athletes, and Exodus International, an organization noted for supporting ex-gay conversion therapy.[14]

The Marriage and Family Foundation received $994,199 in 2009[15] and $1,188,380 in 2010. The Family Research Council, an organization listed as an anti-gay hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center in Winter 2010,[16][17][18][19][20] received $1000.[21][22][23]

Tax filings for 2012 showed that Chick-fil-A created a new foundation, the Chick-fil-A Foundation, to grant to outside groups. It funded only one previous group, Fellowship of Christian Athletes. Other filings for WinShape Foundation showed no funding for groups opposed to LGBT rights.[2]



I'd say that is a significant change, and one that supporters like you and I were not aware of.

Blogger Josh December 30, 2014 12:18 PM  

Of course, we have all been warned: "15 I know your works, that you are neither cold nor hot: I would you were cold or hot. 16 So then because you are lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spew you out of my mouth.

No one likes lukewarm chicken.

Blogger Josh December 30, 2014 12:22 PM  

I'd say that is a significant change, and one that supporters like you and I were not aware of.

That's possible.

It's also possible that the donations stopped because there weren't any more gay marriage ballot measures.

Blogger Josh December 30, 2014 12:23 PM  

Also...

Harumph.

Blogger The Deuce December 30, 2014 12:25 PM  

Crude:

While it may stun or even offend him to read someone saying so, I'd like to see John Wright include (at least what starts as) a lesbian relationship in his writings. I wonder if he could effectively subvert such a thing?

Even better: a romance where an obese lesbian loses weight on advice of her doctor... and turns straight as she finally starts to receive male interest.

Blogger The Deuce December 30, 2014 12:27 PM  

Also a fun poke in the eye to the left would be fiction involving turmoil suffered by an transgendered m-to-f as he realizes he made a terrible mistake under pressure of rent-seeking "doctors" and tries to reclaim his masculinity.

Blogger Iowahine December 30, 2014 12:29 PM  

Re: Dan Cathy

Be wary of a story based on a story. The "new piece" is generally written to generate clicks/views, and will contain lifted quotes wrapped with the "writer's" editorial commentary. Furthermore, the lead paragraph of this piece has a grammar error - another clue the "source" should not be trusted. Someone's assignment was to comb the original story and spin it to discredit Chic-Fil A, with the larger purpose to discredit and discourage Christians.

Blogger Josh December 30, 2014 12:30 PM  

The "critical mass" I referred to isn't chick fill a. It's all the people that went to their restaurants to support Dan Cathy and the company, and to tell the SJWs "GET YOUR FILTHY HANDS OFF MY CHICKEN YOU DAMN DIRTY APE".

It's also the same critical mass that stood up for the Robertsons and Duck Dynasty.

Yes, it's a slow moving mass...because they're busy with the stuff of life...jobs, families, churches, football games, little league, hunting...but it's there all the same...

Eventually, that mass will wake up.

And then the SJWs are doomed.

Anonymous Stilicho December 30, 2014 12:32 PM  

It's also possible that the donations stopped because there weren't any more gay marriage ballot measures.

They weren't just supporting ballot measures:

donations by WinShape to various anti-gay organizations, including $2 million in 2009, $1.9 million in 2010 and a total of $5 million since 2003, including grants to the Family Research Council and Georgia Family Council. WinShape has also contributed to the Fellowship of Christian Athletes, and Exodus International, an organization noted for supporting ex-gay conversion therapy.[14]

Now quit making excuses and eat a freakin' bacon cheeseburger already!

Blogger Chris Ritchie December 30, 2014 12:37 PM  

Nate and Josh - I forgot that I was talking to the He-Man blood and guts, kill 'em all and let God sort 'em out crowd. I'll make sure to temper my speech towards cutting out their spleens and mashing them up with hearts and lungs. That's the only way to be on your good side.

I think what pisses me off is that you two in particular pounce on the most innocuous comment and take it to all sorts of extremes - often just to get a rise out of people. It's not the first time that I've tried to comment on something only to have one of you pounce on me like I'm some sort of an outsider with an agenda. Damn it man! I agree with you here!! And I've been here since 2009 so what gives?

I'm on your side, or so I thought.

Getting back to the point - Did I say that I stopped my kids from watching it? No!! I failed to mention that I actively try to get them to watch ALL WB cartoons and damn the violence. I don't think it was that big a deal either. I was only saying that I was surprised that I noticed it as violent after going so long not watching it. I didn't say I disagreed with it or thought it was harmful. Sheesh!

I have a collection of old WB cartoons because I refuse to let them watch the pansy shit on Nickelodeon or Disney channel or God-forbid, Captain Planet. Is that He - Man enough for guys?!?

Have to go to lunch so I won't be able to post again for a few hours. Enjoy piling on.

Anonymous Stilicho December 30, 2014 12:47 PM  

Have to go to lunch so I won't be able to post again for a few hours. Enjoy piling on.

OK. You'd better not be eating a lukewarm Chick Fil A sandwich!

Blogger Josh December 30, 2014 12:51 PM  

Now quit making excuses and eat a freakin' bacon cheeseburger already!

I can't have both?

Blogger Josh December 30, 2014 1:01 PM  

Nate and Josh - I forgot that I was talking to the He-Man blood and guts, kill 'em all and let God sort 'em out crowd. I'll make sure to temper my speech towards cutting out their spleens and mashing them up with hearts and lungs. That's the only way to be on your good side.

I think what pisses me off is that you two in particular pounce on the most innocuous comment and take it to all sorts of extremes - often just to get a rise out of people. It's not the first time that I've tried to comment on something only to have one of you pounce on me like I'm some sort of an outsider with an agenda. Damn it man! I agree with you here!! And I've been here since 2009 so what gives?


/comic book guy voice:

"Best. Comment. Ever."

Anonymous Stilicho December 30, 2014 1:02 PM  


I can't have both?


Do you like fish sticks?

Blogger Josh December 30, 2014 1:07 PM  

I'm not a gay fish!

Blogger Nate December 30, 2014 1:09 PM  

"I think what pisses me off is that you two in particular pounce on the most innocuous comment and take it to all sorts of extremes - often just to get a rise out of people. It's not the first time that I've tried to comment on something only to have one of you pounce on me like I'm some sort of an outsider with an agenda."

Look mate.. we've all heard the control freak parents fretting over violence in cartoons. When you say things that they say... you can't be to surprised when folks associate you with them.

Blogger Nate December 30, 2014 1:16 PM  

'Nate and Josh - I forgot that I was talking to the He-Man blood and guts, kill 'em all and let God sort 'em out crowd. I'll make sure to temper my speech towards cutting out their spleens and mashing them up with hearts and lungs. That's the only way to be on your good side.'

also... this is curious thing to say about us considering Josh and I were the most vocal of the Anti-torture contingency.

Blogger Nate December 30, 2014 1:16 PM  

seems to me the he-man blood and guts crowd would be lead by The Kratman.

Anonymous BigGaySteve December 30, 2014 1:20 PM  

"Well the Xena/Gabrielle/Willow fans now have a show they can watch with their non-existent kids."

Not only can they adopt HIV+ crack babies but some places are letting them adopt boys since they know they will not want to lick them all day. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2043345/The-California-boy-11-undergoing-hormone-blocking-treatment.html
Lesbians also have the option of going to bars on military bases at 2am when they are ovulating in order to get child support from a guy that wont be able to get custody.

"I'd like to see John Wright include (at least what starts as) a lesbian relationship in his writings. I wonder if he could effectively subvert such a thing?"

Lesbians get the lesbian death bed after they move in. He could do a novel like One Second After where an EMP causes the lesbian's vibrators to stop working, and they need to find a guy to do the work needed for them to survive when there is no post SHTF market for feminine studies teachers. A survivalist could end up with more wives than Brigham Young. The only preps lesbians have are reusable washable menstrual pads that they tell other women they should use to" save the PLANET". If anyone wants to save the planet like dikes do, or present authentic lesbians in stories here you go- http://www.naturallycozy.com/

When they had Archie die saving they gay anti-gun war hero they showed the gay war hero was just like this little skank who got an award from Defense Secretary Chucky Hagel for trolling facebook looking for badthink on duty hours then crying to superiors when laughed at http://www.military.com/daily-news/2014/12/23/army-thanks-soldier-for-confronting-offensive-behavior-online.html?comp=7000023467983&rank=2 . I mean seriously if you are going to have a gay war hero why would he want to be disarmed & need straight civilians to save him?

Blogger Josh December 30, 2014 1:20 PM  

seems to me the he-man blood and guts crowd would be lead by The Kratman.

He's in the charge of the crucifix party.

Anonymous Stilicho December 30, 2014 1:30 PM  

He's in the charge of the crucifix party.

Welcome to Col. Kratman's lumber party...

Anonymous Porky December 30, 2014 1:36 PM  

also... this is curious thing to say about us considering Josh and I were the most vocal of the Anti-torture contingency.

I think he's referring to you dropping ebola patients in holes and shooting them in the head.

Anonymous Huckleberry -- est. 1977 December 30, 2014 1:36 PM  

It's not the first time that I've tried to comment on something only to have one of you pounce on me like I'm some sort of an outsider with an agenda

This isn't cotillion, son, and Roberts Rules of Order don't apply. If your skin is this thin over the relatively mild comments directed at you, maybe you are an outsider, whatever your agenda may be.
Sack up, Buttercup...

OpenID malcolmthecynic December 30, 2014 1:43 PM  

Crude,

I recently read a couple short stories by a gay, celibate Catholic which did something like this.

Both excellent stories as well. Extremely reminiscent of Flannery O'Connor (Conner?) if you're a fan of that sort of thing.

Blogger John Wright December 30, 2014 1:45 PM  

"Jokes aside, I hope you understand what I'm asking for here."

Actually, no, I am not sure of your meaning.

In my outline for my (as yet unwritten) sequel to ORPHANS, tentatively titled EXILED FROM CHAOS, Quentin turns out to be a girl named Eidotheia. Vanity (being a modern girl) wants to continue the now-sapphoesque relationship, but finds that Colin is trying to beat her time. Hilarity and soap opera ensues.

For Nemo, there is no moral quandary involved, not even a temptation, since, according to his code and paradigm of the universe, female mating with female is as impossible as an alchemical wedding without the sulfur, where quicksilver combines with quicksilver.

Whether it is ever written or not is up to the muses. Whether or not it will fulfill your request, I have no idea, since I am not sure what your request is.

Not only have I had lesbians in my stories already, I have depicted an entire race of lesbians, who also commit incest and polyamory and every other form of sexual pairing: the Nymphs from THE HERMETIC MILLENNIA and JUDGE OF AGES. If memory serves, the love story between Oenoe and her female lover is onstage as a flashback.

Blogger Nate December 30, 2014 1:46 PM  

"I think he's referring to you dropping ebola patients in holes and shooting them in the head."

For a savage you really are a delicate little thing Porky.

Blogger Nate December 30, 2014 1:47 PM  

"Not only have I had lesbians in my stories already, I have depicted an entire race of lesbians, who also commit incest and polyamory and every other form of sexual pairing: the Nymphs from THE HERMETIC MILLENNIA and JUDGE OF AGES. "

Perv.


KIDDING! KIDDING!!! PUT DOWN THE RAPIER!!!

Blogger Josh December 30, 2014 1:51 PM  

KIDDING! KIDDING!!! PUT DOWN THE RAPIER!!!

Wait did you just accuse him of being Rapey-er?

Anonymous Dumb founded December 30, 2014 1:59 PM  

In Europe they can outlaw speech they do not like:

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/549164/EXCLUSIVE-Tough-new-laws-to-combat-the-surge-in-anti-Semitic-abuse?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+daily-express-uk-news+%28Daily+Express+%3A%3A+UK+Feed%29

Anonymous A. Nonymous December 30, 2014 2:01 PM  

@Smokey:

Considering that both Legend of Korra and Avatar: The Last Airbender are full-on SJW, with some unintentional, occasional subversions, I'm not sure why Wright is so damn surprised.

This is true. The first series was (somewhat) less obnoxiously overt about it, but the follow-up had the SJWs in ecstasies anticipating potential homo content from the very first teaser images of the masculinised female lead.

@Crude:

White people don't seem to exist in that universe. Nor do black people.

One episode featured a random Indian guru, though, for some reason.

@Josh:

They forget to mention that the last time that the Avater-world's spirits were allowed to roam free, they killed off the majority of the global human population.

Anonymous Crude December 30, 2014 2:03 PM  

John Wright,

Actually, no, I am not sure of your meaning.

Maybe you've already done what I'm suggesting and I missed it - I have not read all of your writings. If so, pardon me for not being familiar with it.

In your stories, have you ever featured a character who said she was a lesbian, was even in a lesbian relationship... but by the end of the story had fallen in love with a man? (Not unheard of, and quite a bit more common than gay men deciding they love women, from what I hear and see.)

Have you ever featured a gay man or a bisexual man in your story, who both accepts he has those attractions but nevertheless rejects them?

You have a very formal, impressive way of writing, which is making me try to cross all my T's and dot my I's here - it's intimidating! - so let me stress, I'm not asking these questions in some backhanded way where I'm insinuating you've been making some mistake or you have a failing if you don't include characters like these in your books and stories. But I'm wondering if there aren't ways to include gay and lesbian and other characters in ways that make them prominent in the story, yet the antithesis of the rot the SJWs try to push and promote. And who may, at the same time, inspire gay and lesbian and others who read the story to strive for something higher than what they're usually told to do. (Which amounts to, 'Whatever you desire! You can't do anything wrong!' pretty often.)

Hopefully I've made things more clear here.

Anonymous Porky December 30, 2014 2:03 PM  

For a savage you really are a delicate little thing Porky.

It's true. I get misty eyed every time I listen to ZZ Top's "Leila".

Blogger John Wright December 30, 2014 2:13 PM  

Nate, whether you are kidding or not, having homosex characters in your book does not save an author from Leftrage.

Larry Correia, Mike Flynn, Robert Heinlein, and many others have put sexually deviant characters in stories for the same reason we put in any other kind of character.

No, the nymphs were my personal version of fetish fuel (I assume the Nymphs looked something like this

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll309/XxSoifonxX/Random%20Girls/GeishaGreen.jpg

or maybe this:

http://www.wallpaperup.com/uploads/wallpapers/2013/02/17/41540/big_thumb_e28dbed0566532c43d6c1ec0ae750da8.jpg

The Nymphs were also my personal mockery of Robert Heinlein's stupid idea that a worldwide orgy would solve, rather than create, every sort of interpersonal problem imaginable.

Blogger John Wright December 30, 2014 2:17 PM  

"In your stories, have you ever featured a character who said she was a lesbian, was even in a lesbian relationship... but by the end of the story had fallen in love with a man?"

Yes. Oenoe the nymph in JUDGE OF AGES. She falls for a Knight Hospitalier in power armor named Sir Guy Von Hompesch. I think his horse also wears power armor.

Anonymous Anonymous December 30, 2014 2:17 PM  

Jere says: "Joke aside, I'm serious. Vox seems like a big proponent of fighting back culturally in the one way that matters - making games and fiction that's Blue, not Pink.

While it may stun or even offend him to read someone saying so, I'd like to see John Wright include (at least what starts as) a lesbian relationship in his writings. I wonder if he could effectively subvert such a thing?

Could he write a gay protagonist who chose chastity and rejected his baser inclinations? Could he do it in a way that worked, that wasn't too hokey?

The list goes on, and far beyond the LGBT circle.

John Wright and Vox could have zero interest in any of this. But if not them, maybe someone else can do it.

I recently read a couple short stories by a gay, celibate Catholic which did something like this. The offense he caused among the few people who read the stories was fascinating, and the stories themselves were entertaining. We need more of that."

Hey Crude,
There is a movie called the Woodsman, I think, with kevin Bacon that takes a small step in that direction.

Blogger John Wright December 30, 2014 2:22 PM  

",,,o let me stress, I'm not asking these questions in some backhanded way where I'm insinuating you've been making some mistake or you have a failing if you don't include characters like these in your books and stories."

Thanks for the clarification, but I automatically assumed your question was straightforward, so I took it at face value.

The answer is yes, I have put in pervert characters into my stories, and no, I have never written a story where the point was the redemption or reformation of such a character. Then again, I have never written a story about a proud man who learns humility, a slothful man who learns zeal, a glutton who learns temperance, or a wrathful man who learns patience.

Mostly I write about space princesses being attacked by space pirates. That is what my latest book, COUNT TO A TRILLION, is about.

Anonymous Crude December 30, 2014 2:29 PM  

The answer is yes, I have put in pervert characters into my stories, and no, I have never written a story where the point was the redemption or reformation of such a character.

Alright. I suppose that's what I'd like to see more of. Not even necessarily as a central theme. I'd like to see stories with chaste but uncloseted gays, lesbians who find out that they're not quite as lesbian as they think, and more.

One thing I see again and again as I dig deeper into the "intellectual" drive behind these stories and shows is talk of being subversive. Surely conservatives and Christians and theists can be subversive too?

But it's not for everyone. You write about space princesses being attacked by space pirates, and we need that too. I just wanted to float the idea.

And to the anon (I've missed others, pardon), I'm sure it's been done before in other ways. Chasing Amy, yeah? Never saw it, but I heard that was a theme.

Blogger Josh December 30, 2014 2:31 PM  

The Nymphs were also my personal mockery of Robert Heinlein's stupid idea that a worldwide orgy would solve, rather than create, every sort of interpersonal problem imaginable.

Make love, not war, maaaaaan...

Anonymous Porky December 30, 2014 2:32 PM  

John, should you ever decide to write a Sci-Fi-Brazilian-Fartporn novel, Nate could help you with the research.

Blogger Nate December 30, 2014 2:32 PM  

'Nate, whether you are kidding or not, having homosex characters in your book does not save an author from Leftrage. "

Quite true. And I find this to be the strongest evidence available to support our accusation that they really are only interested in propaganda. its not enough for a story to have homosexual characters. The story itself must be crafted entirely to serve as a message delivery system.

Blogger Nate December 30, 2014 2:33 PM  

'Mostly I write about space princesses being attacked by space pirates. That is what my latest book, COUNT TO A TRILLION, is about. "

Bio of a Space Pirate?

Blogger Nate December 30, 2014 2:39 PM  

"No, the nymphs were my personal version of fetish fuel (I assume the Nymphs looked something like this "

well..... alrighty then!

Blogger John Wright December 30, 2014 2:39 PM  

@crude, not to worry. All my stories from now on are going to be the opposite of subversive, that is, superversive. The wife and I have started a literary movement based on the premise.

http://www.ljagilamplighter.com/2014/10/01/the-art-of-courage-superversive-guest-post-by-tom-simon/

Blogger Nate December 30, 2014 2:41 PM  

"John, should you ever decide to write a Sci-Fi-Brazilian-Fartporn novel, Nate could help you with the research. "

Debate Vox on esoteric economics... am I Nate the Economist? inspire the blog fantasy football league and win it twice... Am I Nate the Two Time Champion?

but mention brazillian fart porn one time...

Anonymous Harsh December 30, 2014 2:58 PM  

@Crude

We should form a duo and go on tour.

Harsh

Blogger Tom Kratman December 30, 2014 3:01 PM  

"What is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to believe the illusion that evil has already won."

This is true, but it's still worth listing the other step: that good men do nothing because they believe it's useless because they believe evil already won.

Anonymous Stilicho December 30, 2014 3:01 PM  

Debate Vox on esoteric economics... am I Nate the Economist?

Nah, you don't believe that credit money ever goes away once created...apparently it just sloshes around the system indefinitely.

inspire the blog fantasy football league and win it twice

Meh. I only participated 2 years. Champion first year, runner-up second year, beat you both years.

mention brazillian fart porn

You're on your own here.

Blogger Tom Kratman December 30, 2014 3:04 PM  

"The Nymphs were also my personal mockery of Robert Heinlein's stupid idea that a worldwide orgy would solve, rather than create, every sort of interpersonal problem imaginable.

I was discussing this once with Jim Baen, who said to me, "Everything Heinlein ever said, wrote, or believed about sex was wrong."

Anonymous A. Nonymous December 30, 2014 3:06 PM  

The Nymphs were also my personal mockery of Robert Heinlein's stupid idea that a worldwide orgy would solve, rather than create, every sort of interpersonal problem imaginable.

For myself, from a Catholic/writing perspective, I'd prefer to sidestep the issue entirely as far as fiction goes, tending to agree with Truffaut (and Tolkien, for that matter) in thinking that "to show something is to ennoble it".

I must admit that the idea of crusaders in powered armour causing lesbians to fall love with them by sheer force of masculinity is highly appealing, though.

Anonymous Porky December 30, 2014 3:09 PM  

but mention brazillian fart porn one time...

Did Caesar have to mention "Veni, vidi, vici" more than once?

Did John Paul Jones have to repeat "I have not yet begun to fight!" over and over?

Did Stonewall Jackson echo "Give them the Bayonet!" ad nauseam?


True inspiration does not need to repeat itself to be heard.




Anonymous Harsh December 30, 2014 3:24 PM  

"The Nymphs were also my personal mockery of Robert Heinlein's stupid idea that a worldwide orgy would solve, rather than create, every sort of interpersonal problem imaginable.

I was discussing this once with Jim Baen, who said to me, "Everything Heinlein ever said, wrote, or believed about sex was wrong."


It amazes me that the SJW crowd thinks Heinlein was some sort of crypto-fascist when he had that hippy dippy side to him.

OpenID prariepolyguy December 30, 2014 3:36 PM  

Pfft.... Girl\Girl isn't a dead end aberration.

It's a 241 harem building opportunity :D

Blogger John Wright December 30, 2014 3:51 PM  

@ Tom Kratman

"I was discussing this once with Jim Baen, who said to me, "Everything Heinlein ever said, wrote, or believed about sex was wrong."

Wiser words were never spoken, Colonel. My admiration for Mr Baen has increased.

@ Harsh

"It amazes me that the SJW crowd thinks Heinlein was some sort of crypto-fascist when he had that hippy dippy side to him."

That is because everything the SJW ever said, wrote, or believed about everything was wrong.

They hold the act of making a judgment to be a hatecrime, and so the only thing not a hatecrime is to believe a falsehood, which is a meritorious act.

Praising Heinlein for being one of them, a pioneer, in fact, when it came to introducing strong female characters and minorities presented in a positive light, or for being everything they say they stand for is impossible to them. Like Saturn castrating Uranus, the younger generation of revolutionaries betray rather than laud their pioneers and visionaries.

Even the loyalty one sees in a band of pirates or a gang of street thugs is absent from these Morlocks. To them, it is a positive good, a virtue, to betray, condemn, undermine, and slander their benefactors.

They do not do it for anything nor to get anything. They do not want justice, nor, for that matter, society. It is not even a psychological maladaptation for the sake of propping up their failing self esteem. They hate for the sake of hatred.

Blogger Nate December 30, 2014 3:59 PM  

"Nah, you don't believe that credit money ever goes away once created...apparently it just sloshes around the system indefinitely."

precisely. Go ahead and delete the color red and tell me how well that works.

Blogger Mekadave December 30, 2014 4:00 PM  

but mention brazillian fart porn one time...

Cake farts?

Anonymous Michael December 30, 2014 4:53 PM  

Dumb founded, "In Europe they can outlaw speech they do not like"

It's called communism.

"To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you're not allow to criticize." - Voltaire

Perhaps these law-makers think, errenously, that nobody will notice who's responsible for wrecking havoc upon their country if only they craft a law to point it out to them. If the law were truly rooted in justice, it would apply equally across the board, yet it doesn't - it is inherently biased to favor select groups of people.

Also, note the ambiguous terminology used here: anti-Semitic abuse, which can be construed to mean anything they want. Ditto for "hate," which more often than not is merely someone expressing disagreement or outrage.

Instead of teaching holocaust in school, perhaps it would be wiser to teach what causes anti-Semitism to flare up in the first place. For instance, laws which seek to punish Christianity, attempting to guilt-trip the homogenous Anglo-Saxons into complacency while their home nation is being invaded by third-worlders (particularly people who are inherently at-odds with both Europe and Israel), allowing a small minority to take control of their currency, et al. Law-makers are by-and-large responsible for fostering the conditions which lead to the hostility in the first place.

Besides, if they really want to teach about holocaust, they need to teach about the Jewish-led "Russian" Revolution resulting in the genocide of over 60 million people, mostly martyred for their Christian faith. Also, they need to know who was responsible for funding and orchestrating it. If the UK parliament were honest, let alone patriotic, they would want their citizens fully informed about the unique threat Zio-Marxism presents, but seeing as their government is comprised of Freemason puppets...

Anonymous kh123 December 30, 2014 4:57 PM  

"Wait, someone is shocked that an anime show ends with a lesbian pairing?"

Splitting hairs for the general public, but pre-production-wise it was an American animated project, and at the moment a fairly one-off product in that industry. Nick had reservations and, more than likely, expected it would be too expensive and time consuming to go beyond one season; it's amazing that it lasted as long as it did before the plug was pulled.

Given that, besides Paranorman it's part of the latest trend in American animation to literally slip the mickey in at the last moment.

Anonymous Stilicho December 30, 2014 5:12 PM  

precisely. Go ahead and delete the color red and tell me how well that works.

I'll keep it simple for ya: bank creates $100 and loans it to debtor. Bank books show $100 liability to depositor (who is, in fact, debtor) and $100 asset (loan). Total credit market debt is $100. Debtor buys widget from producer for $100. Producer deposits $100 with bank. The books still balance ($100 liability to Producer/depositor and $100 asset/loan to debtor) and total credit market debt is still $100. Debtor uses widget to make goods that are purchased by Producer with the $100 from his deposit account. Debtor now has $100 deposit account. Bank's books still balance and total credit market debt is still $100. Debtor then pays off debt. Bank cancels both asset (loan) and liability (deposit). Total credit market debt is zero. That money is no more. It has ceased to be. It is an ex-parrot.
Please note that this example is complicated by the payment of interest, the money for which must be obtained from someone's savings or through additional creation of credit money (4 out of 5 banksters surveyed prefer this method). The creation of additional credit money to feed the bankster beast is a vicious cycle that demands an ever-growing supply of credit money to survive. When credit money creation cannot keep up with the interest demand, the whole system stalls, then crashes. Right now we're seeing debt disinflation as the beast is fed on a near starvation diet (low interest rates) of savings transfers to the banks and new debt (primarily gov't debt). If this drops below starvation rates, then comes the crash.

Blogger MidKnight December 30, 2014 6:51 PM  

As I just mentioned over at Wrights, it seems McCreepy has decided to take Wright to task over this.

http://www.jimchines.com/2014/12/john-wright-legend-of-korra/


Of course the dipshit has too little sack to provide an actual link, and thus goes through donotlink.

Blogger MidKnight December 30, 2014 6:58 PM  

By the way, I assumed, it being McCreepy, that it was irrelevant fluff. Went to read the article, FWIW, and discovered that it was a bunch of smug crap about what a hater John is for opposing homosexuality, and NOTHING about it being a bolt-on to the story that had little to do with anything going before, as the groundwork was not laid throughout the series.

Blogger Nate December 30, 2014 7:30 PM  

' Total credit market debt is zero. That money is no more. It has ceased to be. It is an ex-parrot."

False.

In that narrative the money never existed in the first place.

Blogger Brad Andrews December 30, 2014 7:55 PM  

I never did care for Tom and Jerry. They don't hold a candle to the classic Bugs Bunny and such.

I still don't see how money created from thin air won't eventually have an impact. Deflationary pressures may be great enough to blunt it, but we will only know a long time from now if so. It could very well be the item that comes slowly, but hits like a truck when it comes, as Vox has discussed in the past.

Blogger Brad Andrews December 30, 2014 7:57 PM  

Stillcho, you didn't address the impact of fractional reserve banking and such that multiplies the "value" of that money, thus your example falls short. It is also too complicated.

I would love a really simple explanation of how the Fed's efforts won't ultimately produce inflation, but I have yet to see that. Perhaps it is not possible to convey it in very basic terms with a simple example.

Blogger thimscool December 30, 2014 9:56 PM  

Stillcho, you didn't address the impact of fractional reserve banking and such that multiplies the "value" of that money, thus your example falls short. It is also too complicated.

He said that the bank created it (ex-nihilo), implying an infinite multiplier which isn't far off.



In that narrative the money never existed in the first place.

That's right, and then the bank makes the loan and it comes into existence. Paying off the loan destroys the debt (money) again, but does not cover the interest.

The interest should be covered by the fact that a certain amount of loans default, which is a loss for the bank that can only be covered by the other sources of income (interest). But when we went into TBTF mode, we denied this correction to the money supply in a fevered effort to avoid deflation (money destruction) and just moved the debt to the sovereign where it can only be discharged by sovereign default or by deliberate inflation (if they can generate enough new performing loans to inflate the money supply, which is doubtful). In that case, we get to explore the exponential slip into debt overload that we see now, with no correction to weed out the weak players.

Sad state of affairs, this welfare system for the rich and connected.

Blogger thimscool December 30, 2014 10:04 PM  

At any point the government could decide to change the rules and just print greenbacks directly, instead of through the debt creation process, which would bring about Nate's scenario for sure... suitcases of money to crony contractors who then pump it into the economy and inflate us out of the hole... This is the $1T palladium coin idea that Krugman favored when the debt ceiling fight got "intense" (har). Mint 10 of them and eliminate the bulk of the sovereign debt by complete fiat, then keep spending and watch inflation soar to render the rest of the sovereign debt minor compared to the new bigger and better economy. Sounds like a winner. What could go wrong?

Anonymous Smokey December 30, 2014 10:12 PM  

The girl power thing in the first Avatar that Smokey mentions is not there, he's projecting it onto the show.

*laughs*

If it makes you feel better about enjoying the show. Don't worry, I enjoy some heavily GRRL! POWER! flavored shows as well, despite their leanings.

Azula, Katara, Toph, Suki, Ty Lee, Mai, that Jun/June chick, I could keep going. While their male counterparts usually middle in the average area, with some areas at which they're good (Sokka is The Smart Guy as an example), but the girls tend to be exceptional at a prodigy level. None of the boys are.

The, "it's a magical world" argument doesn't really wash. I didn't really detect any major girl power bullshit in Harry Potter, for example, but Avatar is full of it from the get go, right down to straw-man arguments for it.

Anonymous Joe Author December 30, 2014 10:26 PM  

“I have no hatred in my heart for any man’s politics, policies, or faith, any more than I have hatred for termites; but once they start undermining my house where I live, it is time to exterminate them.”

By exterminate, does that mean efforts to completely inhibit a person’s liberty to create what they want to create? Because, after all, “Pink SF/F” is immoral. Is it not the Christian’s responsibility to remove any and all vestiges of that immorality? Seems to me there is but one path to take...


“Pink SF/F is a Left-wing literary subgenre written as racial, sexual, and ideological propaganda in order to subvert traditional literature, religion, and society.”



Blue SF/F is a right-wing literary subgenre written as a racial, sexual, and ideological propaganda in order to exclusively promote a particular and desired way of living.



Wow, that was easy.


“This is what we founded Castalia House to explicitly reject.”



Which is your liberty to engage in such actions, similar to the creators of a children’s show to develop a storyline they feel compelled to narrate. Don’t like it? Don’t watch it, don’t buy it, don’t support it. Regardless, they are going to move forward with their literary and artistic vision.


“Gamma. Fucking. Projection.”


Creators. Telling. A. Story.


“No parent should ever allow their children to watch Nickelodeon after what they just did.”



That is not your decision to make.


“I recently read a couple short stories by a gay, celibate Catholic...”



Perversion personified.


“If we don't forcefully fight back, we will continue the losing pattern we've seen in the past decades.”



Does that mean censorship of “Pink SF/F”? Because that seems to be the only way to win the war.

Anonymous Porphyry December 30, 2014 10:41 PM  

"I may be reading you wrong, Paul Weimer, but we can’t be too cautious these days. Seriously, the bigots and their nefarious agents are simply exploding in number, and we can’t afford even the hint of them among the ranks of the right-minded." rofl

Blogger MidKnight December 30, 2014 11:21 PM  

Joe,

That reading comprehension and "context" thing are failing you again.

Anonymous kh123 December 31, 2014 1:30 AM  

" Regardless, they are going to move forward with their literary and artistic vision."

There's the crux of the critique. As per Vox's example, it seemed about as artistic and visionary as revealing that the final elements to be mastered were Crystal Pepsi and Zyklon B. It's obvious shock value and product placement tagged on at the end, with a healthy amount of postmortem apologetic by the show runners laughing all the way to the bank.

Anonymous Monkey Boy December 31, 2014 2:45 AM  

Smokey

As I said there are a lot more women in central roles than men. This accounts for why it appears to feel like a Girl Power thing. But none of the men a portrayed badly or weak. Everyone in the show is brilliant at something. If you count having more female characters in a show as being SJW then your point stands.

Anonymous Smokey December 31, 2014 4:41 AM  

As I said there are a lot more women in central roles than men. This accounts for why it appears to feel like a Girl Power thing. But none of the men a portrayed badly or weak. Everyone in the show is brilliant at something. If you count having more female characters in a show as being SJW then your point stands.

Not really, having more females has nothing to do with this. Seeing the younger males generally lag in the middling area, while their female counterparts are basically exceptional at a prodigy level is what influenced my opinion. Aang is barely an exception to this, and even then, once it came to a female Avatar (Korra) in the next show, the creators had no problem turning her into a prodigy and showering her with talents. Sokka is the comic guy to make fun of, Zuko is the angst-machine who exists to suck at almost everything (as a reviewer I read once pointed out, Zuko sucking at almost everything is a constant trope in the show. It even made it into Legend of Korra when he showed up with a dragon and got punked barely a few episodes after) and so on.

And then of course, the straw-men against GIRL POWAH to get burnt down. The show is full of them. I'm not really sure how you could ignore those, and pretend like The Last Airbender didn't have any of that. It did.

However, as I mentioned, this applies to the younger males. The older guys in the show seem to be more balanced in that regard.

Blogger James Dixon December 31, 2014 4:43 AM  

> That reading comprehension and "context" thing are failing you again.

Have they ever not?

Blogger The Original Hermit December 31, 2014 7:28 AM  

"Vanity (being a modern girl) wants to continue the now-sapphoesque relationship, but finds that Colin is trying to beat her time. Hilarity and soap opera ensues."

I'm gonna go write some fan-fic at literotica and link it to Mr Wright's site and his books at amazon.

Anonymous Stilicho December 31, 2014 7:32 AM  

Stillcho, you didn't address the impact of fractional reserve banking and such that multiplies the "value" of that money, thus your example falls short. It is also too complicated.

Actually, I did address it. The entire paragraph is a simplified discussion of how FRB works. If you think that is complicated, I don't know what to say to you. It is an extremely simplified example of a banking transaction. Jumpin' Jehosephat, I even left out the discussion of interest except to note its source. If you have specific questions, I'll try to answer them.

Anonymous Stilicho December 31, 2014 7:39 AM  

I would love a really simple explanation of how the Fed's efforts won't ultimately produce inflation, but I have yet to see that.

Define inflation.

The fed is struggling now because they cannot produce new credit money fast enough to keep the debt cycle expanding without upsetting the entire apple cart (everyone who could would dump the dollar and that would be the end of the banks the Fed exists to protect). Look at the relative size of the Fed balance sheet compared to total credit market debt from the Z1.

Anonymous Stilicho December 31, 2014 7:42 AM  

In that narrative the money never existed in the first place.

Then your argument about the perpetual existence of credit money is specious.

Anonymous Michael December 31, 2014 8:28 AM  

No parent should ever allow their children to watch Nickelodeon after what they just did.

Joe Author, "That is not your decision to make."

It goes without saying that I cannot force anyone to do anything against their will. It's my advice to parents who want their children to remain on the straight and narrow.

Anonymous Joe Author December 31, 2014 10:47 AM  

"That reading comprehension and "context" thing are failing you again."

You're going to have to be more specific.


"It's my advice to parents who want their children to remain on the straight and narrow."

First, please define "straight and narrow". Second, you have a choice to make. If the SJW's are evil personified, and Christians oppose evil in any shape and form, then the ONLY solution is to destroy that evil. Completely. Without mercy. So, are you going to put your money where your mouth is by calling for their heads on a silver platter? If yes, how do you propose to carry out that plan? Because platitudes and shaming ain't gonna cut it.


Anonymous Michael December 31, 2014 11:06 AM  

Joe Author, "First, please define "straight and narrow". Second, you have a choice to make. If the SJW's are evil personified, and Christians oppose evil in any shape and form, then the ONLY solution is to destroy that evil. Completely. Without mercy. So, are you going to put your money where your mouth is by calling for their heads on a silver platter? If yes, how do you propose to carry out that plan? Because platitudes and shaming ain't gonna cut it."

Unfortunately, you seem to have a one-track mind, meaning that you believe violence is the answer to everything. There is a time for war and a time for peace. Even if society uprooted the evil by fighting back against the Marxist ideological core, evil would still persist - it would simply wear a different mask. Only at the end of time will evil finally be vanquished by God.

Anonymous Pajama boy December 31, 2014 11:15 AM  

So, are you going to put your money where your mouth is by calling for their heads on a silver platter? If yes, how do you propose to carry out that plan?

Wow. Just wow. There is no place in society for the violent bigotry you encourage. Wow.

Blogger SirHamster December 31, 2014 1:00 PM  

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Blogger SirHamster December 31, 2014 1:01 PM  

. If the SJW's are evil personified, and Christians oppose evil in any shape and form, then the ONLY solution is to destroy that evil. Completely. Without mercy. So, are you going to put your money where your mouth is by calling for their heads on a silver platter?


So if SJWs are *not* evil personified, then Christians don't have a duty to collect their heads on silver platters. Correct?

Anonymous Joe Author December 31, 2014 3:23 PM  

Again, define "straight and narrow".



"So if SJWs are *not* evil personified, then Christians don't have a duty to collect their heads on silver platters."

Son, you haven't been paying attention. From one of the commenters on Wright's blog--> You have earned the contempt and hatred of all decent human beings forever, and we will do all we can to smash the filthy phallic idol of sodomy you bow and serve and worship.

On one hand, SJW's have the liberty to produce such "filth". On the other hand, Christians have the duty to eradicate evil, which is inherent in SJW's. How does one eradicate evil?

It's going to take more than the power of prayer. In reading my history, the gun seems to work well.


"Only at the end of time will evil finally be vanquished by God."

And you realize that the employment of the "Just War" doctrine in His name will inevitably be used to eliminate that evil, correct? In this "cultural war", the only way to defeat one's enemies is to annihilate them.

Blogger SirHamster December 31, 2014 4:38 PM  

Son, you haven't been paying attention. From one of the commenters on Wright's blog--> You have earned the contempt and hatred of all decent human beings forever, and we will do all we can to smash the filthy phallic idol of sodomy you bow and serve and worship.

The idol is a different thing than an idol worshipper.


On one hand, SJW's have the liberty to produce such "filth". On the other hand, Christians have the duty to eradicate evil, which is inherent in SJW's. How does one eradicate evil?

Spoken like someone who does not know what Christianity is about.

"Go therefore and make disciples of all nations ... "

"For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms."

So, why do you authoritatively speak on what Christians should do, falsely suggesting mass slaughter, which has no relation to what Christ taught and did? Why do you tempt men to evil through falsehood?

The question answers itself.

Anonymous Joe Author December 31, 2014 9:07 PM  

"The idol is a different thing than an idol worshipper."

The idol of the SJW's, from what I have been told, is sexual deviancy. They, the SJW's, worship said idol. Do you not consider sexual deviancy a mortal sin, one that needs to have any and all vestiges removed? Have you no soul or dignity?


"Spoken like someone who does not know what Christianity is about."

You need to talk to your fellow Christians on this fine blog, for it is THEIR belief that mass slaughter and genocide is preferable and inevitable. I am merely pointing out what THEY are hinting at or considering.

It's not going to make much difference in the end, anyways. People will read what they want to read, write want they want to write about, and create what they want to create. Unless, of course, they cannot. And how can that noble goal be ultimately carried out?

Blogger James Dixon December 31, 2014 9:18 PM  

> And how can that noble goal be ultimately carried out?

Ask the SJW's. They're the ones working out the blueprint. We'll simply play by their rules.

Blogger SirHamster December 31, 2014 9:36 PM  

The idol of the SJW's, from what I have been told, is sexual deviancy. They, the SJW's, worship said idol. Do you not consider sexual deviancy a mortal sin, one that needs to have any and all vestiges removed? Have you no soul or dignity?

An attack on an idol does not need to harm its worshippers. See Gideon.

By the way, in the Christian PoV all have souls regardless of final destination. "Have you no soul" is a nonsense question. I have no dignity, though, to wrestle with a pig in the mud. To answer a fool ...


You need to talk to your fellow Christians on this fine blog, for it is THEIR belief that mass slaughter and genocide is preferable and inevitable.

So you spoke with ignorance to spread falsehoods, and after refutation still accuse. This is really rather fascinating, because the Father of Lies is also the Accuser.

I asked you a question. If SJWs are not evil personified, then do you agree that Christians would have no duty to kill them?


It's not going to make much difference in the end, anyways.

To the contrary. "In those days there was no king in Israel: every man did that which was right in his own eyes." But there is a King, there is an End, and there will be a Judgement with fire.

That's a mighty big difference, and you are warned. "For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him ... but whoever does not believe stands condemned already"

Anonymous Joe Author December 31, 2014 10:37 PM  

“If SJWs are not evil personified, then do you agree that Christians would hav
no duty to kill them?”

[Laughs] you clearly have not been paying attention. The SJW’s are EVIL, or so
I have been told. There is no debating this observably true statement among
the Ilk. Evil is to be met with the force of good. That force of Good is the Bible, right?


“So you spoke with ignorance to spread falsehoods...”

You are being willfully obtuse. From Mr. Wright himself “The reason why I am
so disgusted by the Leftwingers constantly tempting victims of same-sex
attraction to give into their filthy sexual desires is not because my sexual desires
are Christian and clean, but because they are Mohammedan and filthy.”

Mohammedans--followers of Islam--are heretics. What have Christians
HISTORICALLY done with heretics? There is your answer. Mr. Wright need not
sully his reputation by making explicitly clear the righteous path. He is making a
statement that is loud and clear, but couched in plausible deniability.


"For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him ... but whoever does not believe stands condemned already"

So those who follow the other major religions, as well as those who do not adhere to "true Christianity", are condemned? And how does God condemn pagans and heretics and non-believers?

2 Peter 2:6 --> Later, God condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah and turned them into heaps of ashes. He made them an example of what will happen to ungodly people.

Christians will take this passage to heart when they burn SJW's at the cross. They are morally justified to combat evil. God commands them (or so I have been told).

Blogger James Dixon December 31, 2014 11:35 PM  

> Later, God condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah and turned them into heaps of ashes. He made them an example of what will happen to ungodly people. ...
Christians will take this passage to heart when they burn SJW's at the cross.

So did God tell his followers to destroy the cities, or did he do so himself?

Anonymous Stilicho January 01, 2015 10:13 AM  

You need to talk to your fellow Christians on this fine blog, for it is THEIR belief that mass slaughter and genocide is preferable and inevitable. I am merely pointing out what THEY are hinting at or considering

You're not very good at this are you? When you're trying so very hard to induce a threat, it is rather obvious to your intended victims. Pro tip: get back on the short bus with your peers... you simply are not tall enough for this ride. Next time, you could try posting pictures of your transvestite adventures the way Scalzi and Hines do. For the children, natch.

Blogger SirHamster January 01, 2015 4:13 PM  

>>> “If SJWs are not evil personified, then do you agree that Christians would hav
no duty to kill them?”

[Laughs] you clearly have not been paying attention. The SJW’s are EVIL, or so
I have been told. There is no debating this observably true statement among
the Ilk.


Yes/No question. Answer it.

Anonymous Joe Author January 01, 2015 5:33 PM  

"So did God tell his followers to destroy the cities, or did he do so himself?"

Both. God commands, his people follow. Is it not all in the Bible?

"You're not very good at this are you?"

Disqualify, disqualify, disqualify.


"Yes/No question. Answer it."

What part of of the SJW's are EVIL and personify EVIL do you not understand?



Read what you want. Write what you want. Create what you want.

Blogger SirHamster January 01, 2015 9:21 PM  

What part of of the SJW's are EVIL and personify EVIL do you not understand?

That's not a yes or a no. Your reading comprehension is faulty.

Anonymous Stilicho January 02, 2015 12:20 PM  


"You're not very good at this are you?"

Disqualify, disqualify, disqualify.


You keep using that word...I do not think it means what you think it means.

Thanks for providing further evidence, but you're starting to make this look scripted.

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