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Tuesday, December 09, 2014

Sie sind das Volk

I'm fairly certain the Germans want to preserve Germany's Western Christian culture, not any nonexistent "Judeo-Christian Culture". But in this timely piece, notice the interesting use of the term "migrant" rather than "immigrant".
A new type of anti-immigration protest is sweeping across Germany, as thousands take to the streets against what they say is the growing “Islamisation” of the country.

The new protests, which began in the city of Dresden in the former East Germany, feature no neo-Nazi slogans and have nothing to do with the traditional far right. Instead the demonstrators have adopted the old rallying call of the protests against the East German communist regime that brought down the Berlin Wall 25 years ago, “Wir sind das Volk”, or “We are the people”. They say they want to preserve Germany’s Judeo-Christian Western culture.

The protests come as Bavaria’s ruling Christian Social Union (CSU) is seeking to distance itself from a draft proposal for its party conference which said that immigrants should speak German not only in public, but at home as well. Germany is now the second most popular destination in the world for migrants, after the US, and the country is struggling to cope with an unprecedented influx of asylum-seekers.
You know, it strikes me that if you don't want to see a revival of National Socialism around the world in general, and in Germany in particular, encouraging the invasion of various European and European-descended countries by non-Europeans is probably an astonishingly bad idea.

As always, diversity first breeds discomfort, then anger, then hatred, and finally, bloodshed. Most Germans had no opinion at all about Islam 30 years ago. In another 30 years, they'll be dispassionately and efficiently slaughtering large quantities of Turks and Arabs, and the world will be wringing its hands and wondering how this could ever happen again.

I've asked it before and I'm sure I'll have to ask it again: Where the HELL do you think all those ethnically homogenous nations came from in the first place?

Israel for the Jews. Germany for the Germans. France for the French. England for the English. Nationalism and respect for national borders is the world's only hope for a reasonable facsimile of peace. If segregation is not accomplished peacefully, it will be accomplished violently. If the entire written record of human history is any guide, it will be accomplished one way or another.

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Anonymous Sumoski December 09, 2014 6:43 AM  

Israel for the Jews. Germany for the Germans. France for the French. England for the English

And Brazil for the... Oh wait.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan December 09, 2014 7:06 AM  

Asia for Asians, Africa for Africans which we will no doubt start hearing if the globalist bloodsuckers try and dismantle their borders anymore than they have already.

Anonymous Anon December 09, 2014 7:07 AM  

"As always, diversity first breeds discomfort, then anger, then hatred, and finally, bloodshed."

So true. Leftists are the only ones in denial about this. Also it's no coincidence that the crimigrants flock to Europe's strongest economy(Germany) And the worlds largest(the US).

Anonymous zen0 December 09, 2014 7:18 AM  

> And the worlds largest(the US).

Technically untrue. China surpassed the US in that category recently. How come all these migrants aren't going to china?

Blogger Mr.MantraMan December 09, 2014 7:18 AM  

IMO one word stands between us and sanity and that word is "racist" as applied to Caucasians. But I think the left the idiots that they are, are delegitimizing it as we speak, so much so that the conservatives that the system depends on to sell out their base cannot legitimately shut up its base by using that word against them (rot in hell Jack Kemp).

And thank god for the racist blacks in our midst and their allies the race war whites and their "war on white privilege" (now there is a real selling point)

Anonymous Titus Didius Tacitus December 09, 2014 7:18 AM  

“Whoever wants to live here permanently should be encouraged to speak German in public and within the family,” the draft said.
After a storm of criticism, including the Twitter hashtag YallaCSU, Arabic for “Let’s go, CSU”, and questions over how such a policy could possibly be enforced, Andreas Scheuer, the party’s general secretary, sought to limit the damage.
The proposal was only ever intended as “encouragement”, he said. “Obligation, nannying or control are out of the question.”


Things have a way to go yet.

Anonymous zen0 December 09, 2014 7:21 AM  

Ever since last night, the comment system has loat the ability to let one do an edit after preview.

Or is it specific to me, somehow.

Anonymous Anon December 09, 2014 7:25 AM  

"Technically untrue. China surpassed the US in that category recently. How come all these migrants aren't going to china?"

For one the Chinese aren't aren't going to let a bunch Mooselimbs walk all over them and also Technically untrue. "The per-person Gross Domestic Product (GDP) of China is less than one-quarter that of the U.S., according to FT. It is still far from being the world's wealthiest nation. That distinction remains American."

Just follow the money the crimigants are.


Anonymous Peter Garstig December 09, 2014 7:27 AM  

CSU is not on the left. It's on the right side of its sister party, the reigning CDU. (Of course it's All Delutet Nowadays, but They Are For Sure The Least Socialist Party In Germany (outside Of The New Alternative Party))

Anonymous zen0 December 09, 2014 7:31 AM  

> It is still far from being the world's wealthiest nation.

you did not originally use the term wealthiest. You used the term largest, so you can see where I might have gotten the wrong impression.

anyway, you are anonymous, so you don't actually exist.

Anonymous Anon December 09, 2014 7:34 AM  

"anyway, you are anonymous, so you don't actually exist."

The fact remains they are heading to were the money is at despite your contentiousness.

Blogger Bob Wallace December 09, 2014 7:36 AM  

The smartest thing Norman Mailer ever said was that the natural state of mankind was fascism.

Blogger JP December 09, 2014 7:37 AM  

And somehow, even though I have a German surname, I can't enter Germany for anything other than a quick holiday. How in the exasperated hell do these people get permits to stay in Germany (or the US and Great Britain for that matter)?

Anonymous de Geer December 09, 2014 7:44 AM  

@JP

Anchor asylum, then the whole clan through the family reunification (which can never, ever happen in their third world country of origin).

Anonymous Observer December 09, 2014 7:56 AM  

The Christian Socialists are not the leading socialist party in Germany, but only the Bavarian version of the Christian Democratic Union (CDU) of Angela Merkel. It has sth. to do with Bavaria's (pseudo) desire for independence.

OpenID simplytimothy December 09, 2014 8:00 AM  

I like this trend; I like my people.


Anonymous Shibes Meadow December 09, 2014 8:15 AM  

Israel for the Jews. Germany for the Germans. France for the French. England for the English. America for Americans? But who are the "Americans"?

Will the White Diaspora in North America coalesce into the American Nation? Or will it be Indiana for the Hoosiers, Carolina for the Tarheels, and Texas for the Texans?

This is why it is vitally important for White people in America to begin discussing identity now. There should be blogs, reddits, and yearly conferences dedicated to the question "What is a White person?" There ought to be a genuine White Identity in the U.S. and Canada, one carefully policed to weed out Stormfronters, Klansmen, and George Lincoln Rockwell types, and one with a militant wing composed of reasonable yet tough White men to provide physical security sans hoods, swastikas, and tacticool kids at White public events.

As I've said before, there will be no White movement of reasonable people in America until Joe and Jane Six-Pack feel the pain -- and at an intensity high enough to interrupt the weekly ritual of worksportssleep. This #ferguson thing and related Black/Libtard protests are doing a great job in freeing the minds of the Six-Packs, so to speak, but merely becoming a Noticer in the Sailerian sense won't be enough. When the Walmart Neighborhood Market at the corner of Truck Street and Widescreen Avenue is on fire, tthat's when things start to change. As horrible as it is, it's doing to take hundreds of hammer attacks on "Bosnians" before the fuse of White Identity in America is lit.

Anonymous Titus Didius Tacitus December 09, 2014 8:19 AM  

"As always, diversity first breeds discomfort, then anger, then hatred, and finally, bloodshed."

Diaspora Jews have lived for millennia surrounded by "diversity," in the sense that whites are not them but rather an out-group which they view negatively.

This has led to Jewish discomfort with whites, then anger, then hatred, then enormous Jewish-Bolshevik bloodshed (and hunger-murder) and now cultural Marxist corruption, and w-word g-word thing-that-shall-not-be-mentioned.

"Most Germans had no opinion at all about Islam 30 years ago."

Jews have building their grievance list, since, at latest, their mutual hatreds and massacres with the pagan classical Greeks.

"In another 30 years, they'll be dispassionately and efficiently slaughtering large quantities of Turks and Arabs, and the world will be wringing its hands and wondering how this could ever happen again."

For the past half-century at least, worldwide, Jews have been working to make all countries formerly white (like South Africa or Rhodesia / Zimbabwe), and the world believes what it's told, pretty much.

Anonymous Sha NayNay O'Connor December 09, 2014 8:30 AM  

"Just follow the money the crimigants are."

Crimigrants are going to white countries because the hostile elite running white countries have invited them in, pay for their safe passage, pass laws giving them special rights, free resources and privileges and run non-stop anti-racism (ie anti-white) propaganda which softens the host populations for displacement. And these nice liberal white nations are offering up their genetic future, their naive indoctrinated deracinated white daughters to the rest of the world on a silver platter. You can't blame the crimigrants for coming here any more than you can blame a raccoon for getting into your garage if you leave the door open.

The psycho anti-white whites are the ones responsible for demanding all white countries and only white countries accept diversity and displacement.

Anonymous VD December 09, 2014 8:32 AM  

The Christian Socialists are not the leading socialist party in Germany.

Corrected, thanks.

Anonymous Titus Didius Tacitus December 09, 2014 8:35 AM  

simplytimothy: "I like this trend; I like my people."

I like us too.

I hope we survive. And I think we might. From time to time we accomplish things we were never able to do before. We're creative like that.

If we can just become conscious of our shared racial identity and mutual interests (including our shared interest in preserving all our subordinate national identities), then we won't have mass immigration and cultural Marxist corruption any more. Our stupid wars can end. The bloody filth of our long ordeal will fall away, and we'll leave it behind us.

In a new and better age, our heroes might be great experimental scientists who announce their achievements wearing babe shirts -- and then don't get shamed into collapsing into teary-eyed apologetic wrecks.

Anonymous Michael December 09, 2014 8:38 AM  

Part of the problem is that people have been taught not to respect their own opinions by the Zio-Marxist establishment, that to openly oppose them is deemed hateful. After all, they control the media, therefore they write the narrative.

Anonymous Titus Didius Tacitus December 09, 2014 8:41 AM  

Sha NayNay O'Connor: "The psycho anti-white whites are the ones responsible for demanding all white countries and only white countries accept diversity and displacement."

Yes they are. I don't care if they're white, black, brown, Jewish, Asian or something else. It's a crime and it shouldn't be forgiven them.

Anonymous abig johnson December 09, 2014 8:51 AM  

We'll take the n***ers and the chinks, but we don't want the Irish. Or the camel jockeys.

Blogger Tommy Hass December 09, 2014 8:54 AM  

"But in this timely piece, notice the interesting use of the term "migrant" rather than "immigrant"."

That's German. It has no particular sinister meaning behind it, I assure you.

"In another 30 years, they'll be dispassionately and efficiently slaughtering large quantities of Turks and Arabs, and the world will be wringing its hands and wondering how this could ever happen again."

Lol.

Ok, I'll bite: since you mock those that think THIS TIME IT'LL BE DIFFERENT, do you remember what happened last time?

"I've asked it before and I'm sure I'll have to ask it again: Where the HELL do you think all those ethnically homogenous nations came from in the first place?"

People who live close to another ethnic group have a tendency to adopt their language and breed with them and thus, BECOME that ethnic group.

Well and ethnic cleansing.

"Israel for the Jews."

Interesting. You say that you initially considered that landgrab to be illegitimate but now you don't because fait accompli.

This undermines your "Xia belongs to the Xians" maxim. Land belongs to whomever can defend it.

"If the entire written record of human history is any guide, it will be accomplished one way or another."

If the entire written history is any guide, there will also remain multicultural cesspools. Millennia of ethnic cleansing and we still have uncleansed clay on this planet.

I think you need to realize that not everybody is like you Vox. Some people are unwilling to kill if they don't absolutely have to. The sheer existence of people with different beliefs is not sufficient to entice the average European to slaughter. Don't believe me? How many sectarian wars have been happening since 1648 in Europe? Back then, it seemed similarly utopic to claim protestants and catholics would stop killing each other.

Anonymous Daniel December 09, 2014 9:08 AM  

Yeah, I'm sure some grammatically correct version of "Wir müssen unsere jüdische Erbe zu erhalten!" is just perched on the lips on every German protester right now. But yeah, that is a very interesting use of the term.

Blogger Tommy Hass December 09, 2014 9:09 AM  

And whoever uses "Judeo Christian" unironically deserves to be flogged.

Anonymous Anon December 09, 2014 9:17 AM  

"People who live close to another ethnic group have a tendency to adopt their language and breed with them and thus, BECOME that ethnic group."

Beg to differ. From my experience no matter how close you are to them you are never really one of them and you'll find that out the hard way via a betrayal from your "close" ethnic friends. And that's the best you can hope for the other way is how Vox describes it going straight to discomfort,anger etc...

Blogger Tommy Hass December 09, 2014 9:20 AM  

I'm talking LONG timescales. You are focusing too much on modern airplane immigration. Think back in late antiquity and early middle ages.

Blogger Nate December 09, 2014 9:22 AM  

" Where the HELL do you think all those ethnically homogenous nations came from in the first place?"

This reasoning is never going to get you anywhere Vox. Progressivism has been tied to the concept of linear time so thoroughly that people are almost incapable of learning from past mistakes. Things Are Different Now. People Are Different Now. Because Progress!

People only think of progressivism as a big government liberal thing but its much more insidious than that. its the notion that linear time makes us all better and smarter than those who came before.

The fact is that even most of the Ilk are progressive. They just don't realize it.

Blogger Josh December 09, 2014 9:28 AM  

Will the White Diaspora in North America coalesce into the American Nation? Or will it be Indiana for the Hoosiers, Carolina for the Tarheels, and Texas for the Texans?

It won't coalesce.

I say the south for the southrons, the rest of y'all can go to hell.

Anonymous Anon December 09, 2014 9:28 AM  

"I'm talking LONG timescales. You are focusing too much on modern airplane immigration. Think back in late antiquity and early middle ages."

But we are not in those times Mr.Hass.

Blogger Tommy Hass December 09, 2014 9:30 AM  

"Things Are Different Now. People Are Different Now. Because Progress!"

Where are the kings? Slaves? Things ARE different.

Blogger Josh December 09, 2014 9:30 AM  

The fact is that even most of the Ilk are progressive. They just don't realize it.

That's because this time is different...

Blogger Josh December 09, 2014 9:31 AM  

Where are the kings? Slaves? Things ARE different.

They have kings and slaves in Africa and the middle east.

Blogger Tommy Hass December 09, 2014 9:32 AM  

"But we are not in those times Mr.Hass."

So? We were talking about the formation of homogenous countries. That happened in THOSE times.

Blogger Tommy Hass December 09, 2014 9:33 AM  

"They have kings and slaves in Africa and the middle east."

........IN THE WEST obviously. Africa barely registers as civilization.

Blogger Josh December 09, 2014 9:35 AM  

This is why it is vitally important for White people in America to begin discussing identity now. There should be blogs, reddits, and yearly conferences dedicated to the question "What is a White person?"

Here you go:

http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.com

Anonymous VD December 09, 2014 9:36 AM  

Where are the kings? Slaves? Things ARE different.

Where are the slaves? Are you serious? Human nature hasn't changed, Tommy. Look at the way you instinctively defend Muslims with whom you have otherwise no connection. That's EXACTLY the same impulse that will eventually lead Germans to kill Turks in Germany.

I predicted this before Breivik. And the political winds are blowing in exactly the direction I predicted after Breivik, when most assumed the exact opposite.

Blogger Nate December 09, 2014 9:42 AM  

"Where are the kings? Slaves? Things ARE different."

See?

Told ya.

Blogger Nate December 09, 2014 9:45 AM  

And why is Texas for Texans and Indiana for Hoosiers bad?

I don't give a tankers damn for white hoosiers or white buckeyes. The color of their skin is no more relevant to me than a frenchman's skin color is to a german.

Texas for Texans. Tennessee for Tennesseans. Alabama for Alabamans. Ohio? I don't give a damn. You yankee dipshits do what you want.

Blogger Josh December 09, 2014 9:47 AM  

I don't give a tankers damn for white hoosiers or white buckeyes. The color of their skin is no more relevant to me than a frenchman's skin color is to a german.

Their blood all flows red.

Blogger Tommy Hass December 09, 2014 9:51 AM  

"Where are the slaves? Are you serious?"

Yes. Back then, even enlightened thinkers like Jefferson owned slaves. Now, even crimethinking whites generally agree that slavery is a bad thing. Significant changes happen.

Industrialization. De-Chistianization. Genetic change of people. People no longer killing each other in duels. Doctors saving people rather than killing them. Age of consent being a thing.

I don't think that all changes are good, but changes happen, sometimes semi permanently.

"Human nature hasn't changed, Tommy."

It doesn't need to have changed for your claim to be absurd. It's one thing to claim that a second holocaust is not out of the question. It's another thing to claim IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WITH DECADES PERIOD.

"Look at the way you instinctively defend Muslims with whom you have otherwise no connection. That's EXACTLY the same impulse that will eventually lead Germans to kill Turks in Germany."

Slight difference between genociding people and instinctively siding with your group.

Also, my tribe is more inbred and therefore, more ethnocentric and tribal than the people you are referring to. Cannot compare the two apples to apples.

"I predicted this before Breivik. And the political winds are blowing in exactly the direction I predicted after Breivik, when most assumed the exact opposite."

Just because people will be less willing to tolerate Mohammedan shenanigans, doesn't mean they are gonna engage in industrial extermination.

You think I don't notice anything. I do. It's just a lot less bombastic than you assume it will be. Multiculti doesn't need to stop being bullshit for your prediction to be wrong.

Blogger Tommy Hass December 09, 2014 9:53 AM  

How are things not different? Nuclear weapons alone are a massive game changer.

Are you telling me nothing has changed in the last 1000 years? "Human nature" doesn't need to change for things to be different.

Blogger Josh December 09, 2014 9:59 AM  

Doctors saving people rather than killing them.

Euthanasia? Assisted suicide?

Anonymous Projection Hunter December 09, 2014 10:00 AM  

The fact is that even most of the Ilk are progressive. They just don't realize it.

Some of them actually benefit from Industry that purchases politicians who pass laws banning entry and competition into said Industry and allow for prices to be 400-800% higher than they should be, aka a "mafia racket", or politically speaking, "Fascism". Nothing more Progressive than using Government to make $$.

Anonymous Anon December 09, 2014 10:01 AM  

"I'm talking LONG timescales. You are focusing too much on modern airplane immigration."

First it's long timescales, then it's modern times you are all over the map reaching for straws. When you are just basically saying " its different this time" just like a progressive.

Blogger Tommy Hass December 09, 2014 10:02 AM  

I was more talking about the "actually employing useful medicine as opposed to prescribing mercury and infecting pregnant women with germs from the morgue" type of stuff. Malpractice.

Napoleon said that Doctors have more to answer for in the Afterlife than even Generals. This has changed in the early 20th century.

Anonymous Harry Savannah December 09, 2014 10:03 AM  

Excruciatingly to the point for some. Screamingly clear to others.

Anonymous Jeigh Di December 09, 2014 10:04 AM  

'But who are the "Americans"?'
Up until recently the largest single ethnic group in the United States was German. That may still be the case. Interesting implications there...

Blogger Tommy Hass December 09, 2014 10:06 AM  

"First it's long timescales, then it's modern times you are all over the map reaching for straws. When you are just basically saying " its different this time" just like a progressive."

A progressive considers change to be n unmitigated good, more or less. I don't.
I don't believe in the Whig interpretation of history.

Imagine following scnario: a small community of villagers has their own language. Not a very high culture. Then a high culture has contact with them and the locals adopt their language, relgion etc. 1000 years later they're both of a "homogenous" country except for a local dialect.

Blogger Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus December 09, 2014 10:07 AM  

I've said it before, and I'll say it again.

In thirty years, every town and village in Norway will either have a minaret or a statue of Anders Behring Breivik.

Anonymous Albert December 09, 2014 10:07 AM  

People don't duel? Bullshit. We simply no longer have codes formalizing when and how a duel is permitted. And feminized males are too wimpy to directly and individually challenge anyone, anyway(which probably doesn't help when it comes to raising kids, for that matter - they can tell that rules are just an O'bummer-style red line).

Blogger Tommy Hass December 09, 2014 10:09 AM  

"We simply no longer have codes formalizing when and how a duel is permitted. And feminized males are too wimpy to directly and individually challenge anyone, anyway"

So it IS different!

Anonymous Anonymous December 09, 2014 10:09 AM  

Once again, VD, stop, STOP confusing us with the truth! We prefer our theories and abstractions! The world is fluid, we can make of it whatever WE want; to hell with reality!

As Gen'l Forrest is reputed to have said, "Keep up the skeer!" Whatever you do, brother, DON'T quit!

Gratefully,
David Smith

Blogger Nate December 09, 2014 10:12 AM  

Thank you Tommy... for once again demonstrating my point.

Blogger Tommy Hass December 09, 2014 10:13 AM  

Why don't you guys prepare for an attack on Pearl Harbor? What you thinks THIS TIME IT'LL BE DIFFERENT?

Blogger Tommy Hass December 09, 2014 10:18 AM  

"Thank you Tommy... for once again demonstrating my point."

It'd be great if you stopped pussyfooting around and said what you mean.

How are these not significant changes?

Catholics and Protestants used to slaughter each other in the past. This has yet to happen in the last two centuries on a large scale. (Northern Ireland doesn't count, that's also an independence/seperatist movement)

Human nature being unchanged does nothing to the fact that most people rather wouldn't get nuked the annihilation. This changes their behavior.

Anonymous Toby Temple December 09, 2014 10:21 AM  

As Solomon said, nothing is new under the sun.

Anonymous Alexander December 09, 2014 10:22 AM  

Fortunately for Germans, Turkish migrants don't have a nuclear arsenal.

So from Munich to Munster, it'll be business as usual.

And boy... if those rumors now filtering about a dirty bomb in Europe turn out true... it'll be sooner rather than later.

Blogger Tommy Hass December 09, 2014 10:23 AM  

"As Solomon said, nothing is new under the sun."

Eh, true in a way. But tell me with a straight face that industrialization or lower religiosity don't change human behavior.

Anonymous Edjamacator December 09, 2014 10:23 AM  

If Germany really wants to try and preserve a Christian culture, they could start with allowing homeschooling freedom instead of following their Nazi rules on the matter. I'm German myself (mostly) and wouldn't care to live there right now.

Blogger Tommy Hass December 09, 2014 10:24 AM  

"Fortunately for Germans, Turkish migrants don't have a nuclear arsenal."

Do you enjoy feigning stupidity?

Anonymous Toby Temple December 09, 2014 10:25 AM  

Eh, true in a way. But tell me with a straight face that industrialization or lower religiosity don't change human behavior.

Was man toiling back 5000 years ago? Yes. Is he toiling now? Yes.

What changed then?

Blogger Tommy Hass December 09, 2014 10:28 AM  

"Was man toiling back 5000 years ago? Yes. Is he toiling now? Yes."

Back then, poverty meant starvation. Now it means obesity.

Going by your logic, nothing has changed since we still draw oxygen.

Wow.

Anonymous Toby Temple December 09, 2014 10:31 AM  

Back then, poverty meant starvation. Now it means obesity.

No, it isn't. Using US as your evidence, show me someone who lives in the alley that is obese.

Going by your logic, nothing has changed since we still draw oxygen.

That's just you missing the point.

Wow.

If we go down your level of intelligence, there is a change. SEE! NO MORE DINOSAURS!!

Blogger Tommy Hass December 09, 2014 10:36 AM  

You're the guy who literally said that not much changed in 5000 years because people are still toiling.

Anonymous Mike M. December 09, 2014 10:55 AM  

There's a flip side...strong cultural borders keep the peace.

The problem isn't just immigration. It's the demands for concessions. Pretty soon, resentment builds, turns to hatred, results in violence. Strong cultural borders prevent the demands for concessions, forestall resentment, and prevent violence.

Good fences make good neighbors.

Blogger Nate December 09, 2014 10:56 AM  

"You're the guy who literally said that not much changed in 5000 years because people are still toiling."

***sigh***

I keep forgetting you're the guy that thinks Moldbug is kind of smart...

It is human nature Tommy. None of the superficial bullshit you're talking about has changed human nature...and this is a discussion about the effects of basic human nature.

Microwave ovens are nice. So are smart phones. They don't mean shit when it comes to human nature.

Our technology doesn't mean we're smarter. Our views on slavery don't mean we're more moral.

In the end people in 2015 are the same as people in 500 BC. Vox understands this and that is why he is better able to predict things in terms of large scale human action.

Blogger Tommy Hass December 09, 2014 10:57 AM  

Checked it out further.

Those guys have reasonable goals. When I read Antifa thugs' stickers on the university bathrooms ("welcome refugees") I also wish to curbstomp them.

If they wish to stop the Islamization of Europe, they should control immigration and stop bending over.

This is supposed to neccessitate genocide?

Blogger Tommy Hass December 09, 2014 10:59 AM  

"In the end people in 2015 are the same as people in 500 BC."

I don't think this is true. Evolution by (un)natural selection probably pacified the successful countries in the world.

I also believe that human nature is largely unchanged, but human nature isn't the only factor.

Anonymous The Obvious December 09, 2014 11:04 AM  

Methinks a certain someone is being duplicitious, and is secretly afraid of a "remove kebab" moment, not seeing how his actions contribute to it.

Blogger Tommy Hass December 09, 2014 11:10 AM  

How exactly do my actions contribute to it you dumbass. If I was that type of person, why would I come here?

Ok Tad does so as well, but he's a troll.

There is no duplicity. Regardless of human nature, I think that Vox' prediction is silly. Anything COULD happen. Outright predicting a repeat of the baking championship within decades? LOL.

Anonymous ZhukovG December 09, 2014 11:59 AM  

Tommy,

I am having a bit of trouble researching some of the specific demographics and its impact on Germany. I note the Germany is 80% ethnic German and it looks like ethnic Turks make up about 4-5% of the population. Are there other groups, recently arrived that have become problematic? If Germany moved, for whatever reason, to expel a non-Turkish Muslim minority, would the Turks side with the Germans or the minority? Or, would the Turks themselves have internal conflicts over the issue?

Anonymous ZhukovG December 09, 2014 12:07 PM  

Concerning America, I can only readily identify five groups which seem to constitute unique American cultures.

Southern White
Southern Black
Texan
Urban Black
Pre Columbian Native

For the rest of America it seems to be various flavors of Hispanic plus Italian-American, German-American etc…

So there may be no point in trying to create some sort of overarching White identity in the US.

Blogger Tommy Hass December 09, 2014 12:07 PM  

Not sure. Might stay neutral, might oppose it, might even help.

Recent arrivals are gypsies. I don't think Somalians and the like are being let in. It's mostly the new EU members. Lot's of licence plates from Bulgaria.

I think if it's just expulsion with starting capital and not murder, Turks might stay put and say nothing.

Anonymous Giuseppe December 09, 2014 12:42 PM  

Where are the kings? Slaves? Things ARE different.

They have kings and slaves in Africa and the middle east.

I work 60 hours a week for a firm that thinks I have a blog that is "inappropriate" because I had a post on the birth of my daughter saying that regardless of any lack of ability in logic, the ability to give birth makes women the better of the two sexes. Hyperbole sure, but apparently that statement is anti-woman!

So...do you REALLY think slavery is dead? I just have it good enough that slitting throats as the start of my Spartacus moment is not the best choice I can make. Yet.

Anonymous Porky December 09, 2014 12:48 PM  

We exterminated some folks.

Anonymous karsten December 09, 2014 12:53 PM  

Yes to the original post, with one addendum, for logical consistency: Palestine is for the Palestinians.

Anonymous Cheddarman December 09, 2014 1:02 PM  

"Texas for Texans. Tennessee for Tennesseans. Alabama for Alabamans. Ohio? I don't give a damn. You yankee dipshits do what you want." - Nate

Nate, Ohio, Indiana and Illinois are part of the South's Northern Flank. I suppose a time will come when your progeny will be very interested in what goes on here.

Sincerely

Blogger Josh December 09, 2014 1:06 PM  

Nate, Ohio, Indiana and Illinois are part of the South's Northern Flank. I suppose a time will come when your progeny will be very interested in what goes on here.

Y'all already done stole a playoff spot from Texas, dammit...

Anonymous patrick kelly December 09, 2014 1:45 PM  

Things are different cuz' we have better medicine, refrigeration, air-conditioning, iPhones and other techno gadgets. I'm so relieved things are progressing.... /s

Anonymous Aeoli Pera December 09, 2014 2:00 PM  

Sure, things are different now. We've managed to max out nutrition requirements in all socioeconomic strata and simultaneously shrink the average cranial vault by a couple hundred cubic centimeters.

Progress!

Anonymous kh123 December 09, 2014 2:20 PM  

"Outright predicting a repeat of the baking championship within decades? "

Alright, I laughed.

Blogger Calvin December 09, 2014 3:38 PM  

You know, I've been thinking. Why exactly *should* we be interested in keeping Western Christian culture? It's failed us utterly in keeping out the scourges of feminism, abortion, homosexuality, and the whole lot. For all the sins of Islam, I can't help but notice they don't tend to take crap from anyone. Their men are, well, men.

Imagine how much healthier the West, as a society, would be if:

Every woman who committed adultery was dragged into the street and killed.

Ghetto trash and Wall Street Bankers alike got their hands chopped off en-mas for theft.

Usury and the like were banned.

And that's just for starters. Frankly, it sounds better in many ways than the female-dominated whorehouse of today, or the anarchy that will follow the inevitable collapse.

Anonymous cheddarman December 09, 2014 4:02 PM  

"Y'all already done stole a playoff spot from Texas, dammit..." Josh

Josh, I dont know that OSU "stole" its spot, however, I AM certain that the bowl selection committee was briefed on the the TV or cable market share implications of Baylor versus OSU in the national championship playoffs. Besides, if a Southron team wins, you Johnny Rebs get to re-live the Civil War yet again.

Sincerely

Anonymous BB December 09, 2014 4:02 PM  

After 4 years, I just got back to Cologne. Staying in a hostel while looking for a place. Went to get dinner after work tonight, in a quarter I've never been to (Riehl).

Enter some eatery, place is run by Greeks, though guy at cashier is Turk (he btw has no problem handling the gyros-skewer). Grab a kölsch, sit down in the back of the room. Ask old guy next to me if gyros platter is recommendable, says he prefers to order with extra garlic. Turns out to be of Franconian origin (near Nürnberg), came to Cologne in the 50s.

Sat there talking for near 2 hours, with other patrons joining us on our table. At times there were 5 of us in the conversation, youngsters, old guys, with one or two constantly circling in & out.
Topics included:

- Tribes and people of the ancient world, especially Celts (Trier=treveres, Bohemia=boii etc) and Germanics (Franks [Ripuarians], Goths, Vandals)

- Destruction of Cologne and post-war period

- Role of the computer in changing the workplace

- The history of papyrus, parchment and paper

- Culture and history of areas close to Cologne, especially the Eifel region and Luxemburg

- The degeneracy of gays & drugs (old Franconian related some interesting stories from 1950s Cologne). The smearing of Putin in the media

- Migrant-populations of Germans in the Sudetenland & Siberia

We discussed all this enjoying ourselves, but were generally dispassionate and factual. Of course there were some arguments. Old Franconian was adamant in his indictment of drugs, while a charismatic patron insisted that it was very common for farmers of old to stuff their pipe with pieces of hemp they grew. I took the spike out of their disagreement by pointing out that agricultural hemp was most certainly less psychoactive than the specialized breeds of today, which both conceded. I related how the Netherlands, which I had just left, just last year restricted the sale of drugs to non-locals, which all three of us approved of.

I report this only as an impression of the state-of-mind of the average German. I knew none of these people, we met as strangers. Of course people might talk even more frankly with simeone they know and trust, although at no point in time did I feel someone held back because of PC. Wether it supports Vox' thesis or not, or is completely irrelevant to his predictions, I leave to your judgment.

Blogger Josh December 09, 2014 4:05 PM  

Besides, if a Southron team wins, you Johnny Rebs get to re-live the Civil War yet again.

ROLL DAMN SEC

Anonymous Quartermaster December 09, 2014 4:30 PM  

Cheddarman,

I live in Ohio for 13.5 years (Marietta and Stockport), and all we'll care about is the southern parts of those states. The northern parts are already lost to yankee idiots.

Anonymous Dumb founded December 09, 2014 4:40 PM  

"After 4 years, I just got back to Cologne."

Did you mean Koln?

Anonymous Harry Savannah December 09, 2014 6:07 PM  

First time commenting here (including the above). Most salient vis-a-vis this thread in my thoughts were the horse's ass(ness) of two parties in particular: Tommy Hass, for his self-adoring obnoxiousness and coma-inducing tediousness, and Nate, for his slobbering Yankee-hate.

I give 1st prize to Nate for his pureness of irrationality in additionto his moral decrepitness.

Blogger vashine December 09, 2014 7:23 PM  

It is not so much that Heir Ass is wrong, it is that he is boring. He's like the beta schlub who really thinks he knows Game, but is spewing try-hard all over the place. And everyone sees it but him. And they all internally cringe.

And it's not even elegant intellectual try-hard, it is pretty rough and painfully sophomoric.

Anonymous Shibes Meadow December 09, 2014 7:46 PM  

He meant Köln.

Blogger WildClaw December 09, 2014 10:48 PM  

So, a serious question from an Asian American. I would appreciate it if you guys would answer earnestly and logically.
First: background info. I am a Chinese American who moved to Alabama when I was 6. I started 1st grade with all the other children (mostly black) and went to a predominantly white church until 4th grade. Then I moved to a predominantly white suburb and then went to a Chinese Protestant church. I had never really felt too much racism. It was mostly jokes when we talked about races. I assimilated really well, as did most of my Korean and Han peers. Then in 10th grade, I moved to Charlotte, NC. This was also the time when I began replacing my former liberal views with conservative and libertarian views. Charlotte was quite unpleasant tbh. I no longer felt accepted in any social group. My CHinese wasn't well enough to fit in with the Asian FoBs, I was not accepted among my white peers as I had previously felt, even though I talked like them and liked to do do the same things that they did. My communications with other minorities were mostly shallow. So this leaves me in a pretty shitty situation here. I feel American. I want to be an American with a most sincere desire. But truthfully, I feel like a foreigner without a homeland. My memories of China are fading away with each passing year. I visited China this summer with my family, but some was wrong. I didn't FEEL like I belonged. It was even worse than being in Charlotte. Despite my relatives being EXTREMELY kind to me, the atmosphere of China made me grumpy and unable to appreciate such things. The CHinese no longer see me as one of them. I am a "banana." Too westernized and lacking advanced Chinese language skills. A traitor to the race.

I feel lost. What can I do? I love America and its ideals, such as freedom of speech and capitalism, but I don't feel like I belong. With the rising surge of nationalism in the western world, I feel like I am in the wrong place. But tbh, there really ISN'T a "right" place for me. What can I do? I'm still a junior in high school, so I've got many years ahead of me.

Do I go back to China? Do I stay in America? What do I do?

Anonymous Anon December 10, 2014 12:02 AM  

"Imagine following scnario: a small community of villagers has their own language. Not a very high culture. Then a high culture has contact with them and the locals adopt their language, relgion etc. 1000 years later they're both of a "homogenous" country except for a local dialect."

Or not

You Don't have to Imagine the following scenario because its taking place in realtime: a small community of Afghan villagers has their own language. Not a very high culture. Then a "high" American culture has contact with them and the locals don't adopt their language, relgion etc. 1000 years later they're both of just as "Unhomogenous" as ever country except for some bilingualism.

Blogger WildClaw December 10, 2014 12:15 AM  

Anon December 10, 2014 12:02 AM
"Imagine following scnario: a small community of villagers has their own language. Not a very high culture. Then a high culture has contact with them and the locals adopt their language, relgion etc. 1000 years later they're both of a "homogenous" country except for a local dialect."

Or not

You Don't have to Imagine the following scenario because its taking place in realtime: a small community of Afghan villagers has their own language. Not a very high culture. Then a "high" American culture has contact with them and the locals don't adopt their language, relgion etc. 1000 years later they're both of just as "Unhomogenous" as ever country except for some bilingualism.


Yes, but does "American culture" come into contact in the way that the Americans did to Natives? Americans aren't mass immigrating in to Afghanistan. A better example would be Turkish and Greek (Hellenic).

Blogger WildClaw December 10, 2014 12:19 AM  

Actually, I just gave a terrible example. How about the Romans and the barbarians? How much of "barbarian" culture got preserved? How much of the cultures become homogenous?

Anonymous Shibes Meadowlark December 10, 2014 12:21 AM  

“and one with a militant wing composed of reasonable yet tough White men to provide physical security sans hoods, swastikas, and tacticool kids at White public events.”



That is called the southron police force.


“There should be blogs, reddits, and yearly conferences dedicated to the question "What is a White person?"

Easy. A man or woman who is Caucasian and exercises their liberty to or not to intermingle or intermarry with minorities.


“As horrible as it is, it's doing to take hundreds of hammer attacks on "Bosnians" before the fuse of White Identity in America is lit.”

A long, long, long, long fuse.


“Do I go back to China? Do I stay in America? What do I do?”



Stay. Live where you want to reside. There are plenty of white people who have little to no problems with “vibrants”.

Anonymous Anon December 10, 2014 12:39 AM  

"Yes, but does "American culture" come into contact in the way that the Americans did to Natives? Americans aren't mass immigrating in to Afghanistan. A better example would be Turkish and Greek (Hellenic)."

Yeah I understand that Wildclaw. I was just adding some balance to his comment about cultures being fluid between each other which is laughable/contradictory considering he's an Islamist.

As to you connumdrum about where you belong I have $.02. Pick a culture but in your case since you are ethnically Chinese you might as well pick Chinese culture. If language is the major barrier as you mentioned then study Mandarin or whatever and get good at it as that's much less of a hurdle than trying to appear white when you're Chinese. Go visit your homeland often,volunteer and marry a nice Chinese girl as there seems to be plenty available by all the ads on Zerohedge. That's my advice.

Blogger Danby December 10, 2014 12:45 AM  

@WildClaw
You need to find either a place with many more 2nd generation Asians, or one with many fewer. If you're not part of a competing group, an exotic one-off, White people, at least, are much more tolerant, and the other Asians will be very glad to see your face. They don't have option of excluding you. My guess is that NC, with its large tech industry, has many more 1st generation Chinese than Alabama.
I know you're too young yet to move out on your own, but any large, or even small, city on the West Coast (Seattle, Portland, etc) is much more used to Asians than NC. There were enough Asians here when I grew up in the 1970s that i've been able to tell the difference between Han and Korean facial structure since I was 6. Since East Asians have been coming here for 150 years, there's a large 2nd, 3rd, even 6th generation presence where advanced language fluency is not the standard by which people are judged.

Blogger JCclimber December 10, 2014 1:39 AM  

dude, move to Kalifornia. As soon as you graduate.

There are so many ABCs and FOBs here, that you'll blend right in immediately.

Anonymous Toby Temple December 10, 2014 2:08 AM  

You're the guy who literally said that not much changed in 5000 years because people are still toiling.

Which is why I said "That's just you missing the point.".

If its still not obvious to you what Solomon meant then ask. Stop being stupid and displaying it here at the same time.

Anonymous Herman the German December 10, 2014 2:22 AM  

Interesting....I have been having the exact same thoughts on this issue. Glad to see someone echo them _here_.

Anonymous kh123 December 10, 2014 4:41 AM  

Second JC's recommendation. From Vancouver to San Diego, you'd be hard pressed not to find someplace like, for instance, Monterey Park/Rosemead within driving distance of most major metro areas, where the demographics don't have a strict cut-off point at any particular street or freeway junction.

Blogger Tommy Hass December 10, 2014 5:32 AM  

"I was just adding some balance to his comment about cultures being fluid between each other which is laughable/contradictory considering he's an Islamist."

Me. Islamist. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Anonymous Anon December 10, 2014 6:08 AM  

"Me. Islamist. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA"


So you don't like Islam!? I was under the impression you were from others comments about you. Pardon my mischaracterization.

Blogger Tommy Hass December 10, 2014 9:07 AM  

That's "Muslim". Islamism has a political and radical tinge to it.

Anonymous Harry Savannah December 10, 2014 10:00 AM  

To the young ethnic Chinese:

You are clearly very sincere and refreshingly express yourself absent the tiresome "ax to grind" mentality that every damn non-white does excepting yourself. I sympathize with your situation but all things must be examined in their larger context. Words to live by: "Context is king."

So simply ask yourself this question, "Am I freer, more prosperous, more opportunity rich, etc., etc., than the vast majority of Chinese IN CHINA?" If your answer to yourself is "yes" than accept your situation with a thankful disposition,
LIFE IS NOT PERFECT!

Consider my position. I was born into a nation that was 90% white. It was thoroughly Christian in its moral and cultural ethos. The ideal in the mind of the WHOLE WORLD of the archetypal American was a white man. That white man had been the owner of his own country (though subversive powers had been hard at work - this, for another time). The nation was his to have and to cherish. In a mere few decades that has all been erased. I am an enemy in that same geographic place. All its institutions have trained their guns on me. I am down to something like 60% of the demographic here. I am openly reviled with a river of contempt running over me. My grandchildren have been dispossessed and genocide is the new ethos. The "country" has become a "seething pot" of a plethora of peoples hating one another though allying with one-another long enough to decimate the founding peoples-white people. The culture has been transformed from what is sweet and good to my memory to a raft of fetid swill.

If your are as fair-minded as you seem to be you may well acknowledge that my heart may well be broken as compared to yours as merely heavy.

You ask should you return to China. I think that is a true option to consider. No sentiment is so strong in the natural man than an attachment of heart and mind to his OWN KIND. For now you have the luxury to choose.

Good luck to you young man.

Anonymous Hary Savannah December 10, 2014 10:06 AM  

"Your" should be "you're."

Anonymous Harry Savannah December 10, 2014 10:13 AM  

"Ax" should be"axe."

Damn this writing thing!

Anonymous Anon December 10, 2014 10:49 PM  

"That's "Muslim". Islamism has a political and radical tinge to it."

Lol so you're one of those more "nuanced" muslims?

Anonymous Discard December 11, 2014 4:45 AM  

WildClaw: I echo Harry Savannah. The nation I was born in is now defeated and occupied. When I was your age, we had Mexicans and a few Chinese and Filipinos and working class Jews in my neighborhood, but they seemed to be just like us. American. Certainly no more alien than the German man down the street or the sprinkling of New Yorkers and Chicagoans. But now the Jewish ideology of multiculturalism has been forced on us. We, the descendants of the builders of the country, are the object of institutionalized and tax-supported hatred. Whether you intend it or not, you are an occupier. I bear you no personal animus, but I'd rather you went back to China. When people deny that there will be a savage kickback by Whites, I remind myself that the last hundred years have seen more slaughter than any time in all history. Tommy Hass? People have not changed. Killing is the default setting for a threatened people.

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