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Thursday, December 18, 2014

The cowardice of Hollywood

This is how to how to make a corporation kneel, submit, and behave, everyone:
With theater chains defecting en masse, Sony Pictures Entertainment has pulled the planned Christmas Day release of “The Interview.” U.S. officials have reportedly linked a massive cyber attack against Sony to North Korea, which is at the center of the Seth Rogen-James Franco comedy.

“We are deeply saddened at this brazen effort to suppress the distribution of a movie, and in the process do damage to our company, our employees, and the American public,” Sony said in a statement. “We stand by our filmmakers and their right to free expression and are extremely disappointed by this outcome.”

In announcing the decision to cancel the holiday debut, Sony also hit back at the hackers who threatened movie theaters and moviegoers and who have terrorized the studio and its employees for weeks.

“Those who attacked us stole our intellectual property, private emails and sensitive and proprietary material, and sought to destroy our spirit and our morale – all apparently to thwart the release of a movie they did not like,” the statement reads.

A few hours after making the announcent, a studio spokesman said that Sony had “no further plans” to release the comedy, either on VOD or DVD.
Christians aren't comfortable killing people who insult their faith and their Lord and Savior. That's one reason most anti-religionists are so much more inclined to attack Christians rather than Muslims. But no one was actually harmed in the cyber attack on Sony; all that happened was some information that the studio would rather have kept under wraps has been distributed to the public.

Perhaps entertainment corporations would be more inclined to show civility and respect to Christians again if some of us applied the lesson we've learned from the supposed North Korean example.

It is, of course, vastly amusing to see a Hollywood entity complaining about someone else seeking to destroy their spirit and morale. Isn't that exactly what Hollywood has been relentlessly doing to Western civilization since the 1960s?

It's not easy to make the North Koreans look good, but Sony somehow managed it. They're typical SJWs, paper tigers, able only to apply the heat but never to bear it themselves. No wonder people in Hollywood are always giving each other "courage" awards and talking about how brave they are. They are cowards and they know it.

If Sony had any balls at all, if they were truly convinced of their own rectitude, they would have released the film even if every theatre in America refused to show it. And the fact that they backed down after several sets of information were released makes one wonder what it is they are still trying to hide. From now on, we know that North Korea has an effective veto over Sony, if not the rest of Hollywood.

What a pity they didn't decide to target The Hobbit(ses) for the desecration and war crime that Peter Jackson let his wife commit on Tolkien's text. As with the Star Wars prequels, I saw the first one, and as a result, will not watch the second two.

Filmmaker Judd Apatow called it a "sad day for creative expression" and said, "When we cave to threats, it trains people to threaten us."

As I mentioned on Twitter, I'll take Hollywood's tears over the impact this will have on "creative expression" seriously on the day it releases a movie that sympathetically portrays Nazis rounding up Jews or presents a powerful emotional defense of KKK members defending their families and community from the depredations of black Americans. Until then, their tears are best seen as nothing more than a complaint that a new party has forcibly insisted on claiming the same sort of veto power that Hollywood's other interest groups possess.

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94 Comments:

Anonymous Idle Spectator December 18, 2014 3:35 AM  

Without the movie coming out, I am just so ronery.

Blogger Pseudotsuga December 18, 2014 3:53 AM  

There is no second or third Hobbit movies. Just like the mythical Highlander 2, those two films do not exist. They are only rumors and fever dreams of fanboiz.

Blogger GoldRush Apple December 18, 2014 4:04 AM  

It's also amusing to see entertainers take to twitter to voice their thoughts on Sony's decision. All of a sudden the 1st Amendment is their thesis and their patriotism "came out of the closet." Like you said, Vox, they're cowards.

Anonymous Barko Ramius December 18, 2014 4:12 AM  

McCarthy was right .
I suspect this was a ruse designed to make Ill SunJun look like he,s one upping the US by stopping the release of the film. And then you have Obolo kissing up to the Carrib Commie Castros at the same time.
Commies gonna commie.

Anonymous FP December 18, 2014 4:21 AM  

Poor Sony. Hoisted on their own rootkit.

Blogger James Dixon December 18, 2014 4:24 AM  

> If Sony had any balls at all, if they were truly convinced of their own rectitude, they would have released the film even if every theatre in America refused to show it.

And if they didn't want to do that, simply release the film on the Internet for free download.

> Poor Sony. Hoisted on their own rootkit.

Yeah. Sony will get little to no sympathy in the tech community.

Anonymous Titus Didius Tacitus December 18, 2014 4:51 AM  

Pseudotsuga: "There is no second or third Hobbit movies."

That tracks with my experience. Unfortunately the first one was overdone enough to be three bad movies on its own.

Anonymous Titus Didius Tacitus December 18, 2014 5:04 AM  

“Those who attacked us stole our intellectual property, private emails and sensitive and proprietary material, and sought to destroy our spirit and our morale – all apparently to thwart the release of a movie they did not like,” the statement reads.

What kind of monsters would attack Hollywood's spirit and morale?

Hollywood needs to get its culture heroes such as Roman Polanski, Woody Allen and Bryan Singer to give the North Koreans a stern lecture on morality.

Anonymous zen0 December 18, 2014 5:05 AM  

I wonder if Mel Gibson was involved at all.

Blogger AdognamedOp December 18, 2014 5:06 AM  

I would definitely burn a Cuban cigar and sip some Bermuda Rum if I heard that NK goon squads assassinated Seth Rogen and James Franco.

Anonymous DavidK December 18, 2014 5:08 AM  

Sony is still a Japanese company right? The North Koreans hate the Japanese, no wonder they targeted the company and this movie.

I agree they should have just released it and flipped the bird at North Korea. Who would have thought North Korea of all countries were the masters of cyber warfare? As usual, the US government sent out constant warnings about the dangers of cyber warfare, raked in the cash from Congress, and then squandered every last cent without actually getting ready for cyber warfare.

Anonymous Titus Didius Tacitus December 18, 2014 5:13 AM  

"It is, of course, vastly amusing to see a Hollywood entity complaining about someone else seeking to destroy their spirit and morale. Isn't that exactly what Hollywood has been relentlessly doing to Western civilization since the 1960s?"

Why... yes! Yes it is.

There's a lot of reasons to be happy about this. It's good to see the studios are now so evil that they are losing the fragments of good, such as courage, that only helped them to practice their evil with more effect.

But for now, none of this outweighs the pleasure of seeing a bully for the past fifty years slapped, even if only by another bully.

Anonymous kh123 December 18, 2014 5:15 AM  

Since Sony closed down one of their main CG hubs in Culver and offered higher management there either employment in Canada or nothing at all, maybe this is a bid by North Korea to get them to freelance their animators from up-and-coming Pyongyang instead of Vancouver.

...Or was it Ontario. In a Free Trade world, does it really matter?

Hot damn, that Kim Dynasty moxy.

Blogger Zaklog the Great December 18, 2014 5:42 AM  

Well, whether this was a result of my question or already in the works when I mentioned it, thank you, sir.

Blogger SRBEL December 18, 2014 5:58 AM  

VD, looks like North Korea may not be behind the Sony hack, but rather a disgruntled (possibly ex-) employee, or group of.
https://www.riskbasedsecurity.com/2014/12/a-breakdown-and-analysis-of-the-december-2014-sony-hack/

Anonymous PhillipGeorge©2014 December 18, 2014 7:14 AM  

Social Justice Warriors and Orwell's Pigs both love other people's money. They aren't doing hard yards themselves. It's always hypocrisy writ large.
If Hollywood could give a pinch of excreta the Oscars would have a Theo Van Gogh award for cinematic journalism. I joketh not.

Vox, I just spotted something. The tag should not be "Clash of Civilizations". That elevates the opposition well beyond its stature.

Islam, Communism, Social Justice Warriors advance only by coercion, intimidation, extortion and fraud. It's not a clash of civilizations at all. In fact civilization never had a plural.

It's like comparing oxygen to nitrogen in respiration. The one is everything useful, the other dead weight to move and live around.

Anonymous VoK December 18, 2014 7:24 AM  

This makes zero sense to me. Why not release the movie? Is this a response to terror or to blackmail?

If blackmail, I'm curious what needs to be kept hush hush.

Blogger Markku December 18, 2014 7:27 AM  

VoK, at least the official story is this:

Tuesday’s message accompanied another data dump. It threatened violence on theaters that showed “The Interview” and people who attend screenings.

“The world will be full of fear,” the message reads. “Remember the 11th of September 2001. We recommend you to keep yourself distant from the places at that time. (If your house is nearby, you’d better leave.)”

In response, exhibition industry lobbying arm the National Association of Theatre Owners said its members must decide individually whether to release the picture and Sony said it would respect theater owners’ decision not to exhibit “The Interview.” That set off a cascade of cancellations.

Anonymous zippo December 18, 2014 7:54 AM  

:"Is this a response to terror or to blackmail?"

Neither. It's a response to Fifty Shades of Legal Liability. For all the talk of schadenfreude and various species of courage, let's not forget that at the end of the day, Sony is a corporation. It will never have to answer to the Almighty, it answers to stockholders and balance sheets.

Anonymous Statists are so dull December 18, 2014 8:25 AM  

My guess is its just a marketing ploy - mediocre film suddenly becomes a must see!

Anonymous WinstonWebb December 18, 2014 8:28 AM  

Am I too jaded for thinking in the back of my mind that this might ALL be an elaborate hoax that has taken on a life of its own?

Blogger Cataline Sergius December 18, 2014 8:34 AM  

Sony is still a Japanese company right? The North Koreans hate the Japanese, no wonder they targeted the company and this movie.

That may have been a big part of it. This is an actual tweet from the DPRK's twitter feed and not The Onion:

Heroes force Japanese cinema bandits to bow before indomitable fist of Korean people. 10,000 years of life to Supreme Leader Kim Jong-Un!

I don't recall them making this big of a fuss about Team America but then again that was 2004. They didn't have the internet capability back then.

Anonymous Michael December 18, 2014 8:39 AM  

Statists are so dull, you got it: this is an elaborate marketing ploy to garner attention for the latest crap offering by Hollywood (which hasn't released a truly funny comedy in eons). What's sadder is how quick the majority of people are to actually buy this utter crock. Indeed, if anything, Hollywood in its current state has far more in common with communists than it does with traditional American values.

Blogger Salt December 18, 2014 8:41 AM  

Going with the flow,

So N. Korea doesn't like the content and sanctions Sony which pulls the film while theaters, hardened bastions of American might, are threatened with Un-had? It's amusing as that's a better whack on the wrist of a ranking member of the Corporatocracy than any fine the FCC would ever deliver.

Had it been against G-S, Pyongyang would already be glowing in the dark.

Anonymous physics geek December 18, 2014 8:49 AM  

I did see that a Texas theater was shoving "Team America, World Police" instead. I'm okay with that, although a double-feather of "Team America' and "The Interview" would be better.

Blogger Jack Aubrey December 18, 2014 8:52 AM  

A quick glance at the Sony Pictures Management Team shows why nobody has resigned in disgrace over this.

Anonymous Action Bronson December 18, 2014 8:54 AM  

This controversy sounds better accompanied by that Hozier, Take me to Church song.
Wha!

Anonymous bw December 18, 2014 9:16 AM  

the supposed North Korean example... power that Hollywood's other interest groups possess

Workin' It.

Anonymous Musashi December 18, 2014 9:16 AM  

You have to wonder what percentage of Americans are cowards.

I'm thinking >95%.

Blogger Josh December 18, 2014 9:19 AM  

Wouldn't Netflix and hulu jump at the chance to release this via streaming?

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents December 18, 2014 10:02 AM  

Whether Neflix or Hulu would jump to distribute a first run movie is probably not relevent. Sony clearly is running scared of something.

Could this be a reaction to what has not yet been released by the Guardians Of Peace? Did the GOP use some back channel to give Sony's management a peek at what emails, files, etc. were due to come out in the next week or two?

Or is it simpler than that - it appears over 90% of Sony's computers have been hacked, to the extent that the company had to pause shooting on films because there was no way to pay contractors and suppliers. It is obvious the payroll system has been hacked as well. A company that can't issue paychecks is close to being dead. Any backup data that is in any way connected with the hacked computers? Consider it corrupted as well.
Better be some off-site archiving, or…Sony may be a zombie company at this point, if enough damage has been done to busines systems that can't be reconstructed.

Whether it was the North Koreans or a small cabal of disgruntled insiders, Sony has lost its "cyberwar". Someone has pwnd them, totally.

Anonymous Laz December 18, 2014 10:07 AM  

"As with the Star Wars prequels, I saw the first one, and as a result, will not watch the second two."

Episode 1 sucked. Episode 2 was better but, episode 3 was visually outstanding.

Anonymous The other skeptic December 18, 2014 10:16 AM  

It looks like striking back has some effect as well.

Publish the home addresses of all reporters, I say!

Anonymous Cail Corishev December 18, 2014 10:33 AM  

Episode 1 sucked. Episode 2 was better but, episode 3 was visually outstanding.

They're all horrible, and only suitable for Rifftrax fodder. #1 was horrible in stupid ways, but the amount of teenage angst in the others is absolutely brutal.

Blogger Chiva December 18, 2014 10:34 AM  

@Twenty Cents.
You are close to the truth of it.

Blogger Markku December 18, 2014 10:44 AM  

Episodes 1-3 were like three movies of Kane playing with Rosebud.

Episode 1 - Young Kane
Episode 2 - Slightly older Kane
Episode 3 - Yet older, but not too old to play with a sled, Kane.

WE KNOW ALREADY! All you have accomplished is to spoil the one actually GOOD movie for new viewers.

Anonymous Ain December 18, 2014 10:49 AM  

I only wish PJ had split up the third Hobbit movie into two or three movies for even more padding.

Anonymous paradox December 18, 2014 10:54 AM  

Sony should one day stream this POS movie, for free on Christmas Day. But Sony doesn't have the testicles.

Anonymous Alexander December 18, 2014 10:56 AM  

Well let's be fair here: the left has never been for freedom of speech. There ought to be no expectation that they would be willing to fight to any degree for someone else's values.

What they are for is being the king. Hard to do that if you're dead or bankrupted.

Blogger Josh December 18, 2014 10:59 AM  

Episodes 1-3 were like three movies of Kane playing with Rosebud.

Dude, spoiler alert...

Anonymous paradox December 18, 2014 11:01 AM  

Laz

episode 3 was visually outstanding.


Seriously?... You're breaking my heart... We obviously didn't watch the same movie. Decent... best of the 3... but it's not that hard to make a movie better than episode 1 & 2. And there is no way in hell it's outstanding.

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents December 18, 2014 11:04 AM  

Well let's be fair here: the left has never been for freedom of speech.

The left has always been for freedom of speech, for themselves and their fellow travellers.

Blogger James Dixon December 18, 2014 11:11 AM  

> Wouldn't Netflix and hulu jump at the chance to release this via streaming?

Netflix, probably. I'm not sure about Hulu. The torrent sites would love having it though.

Anonymous Noah B. December 18, 2014 11:13 AM  

Considering the crap that is coming out of Hollywood lately, Markku's Rosebud movies would probably be huge hits. Especially if they were done by Pixar.

Anonymous Sarcophilus December 18, 2014 11:40 AM  

An email I sent as an op-ed:

Of Theaters and Airports

If the proper response to terrorist threats is to deny or accept the threat and not change our behavior, it ought to apply everywhere.

Everything about "Letting the Terrorists Win" for Theaters applies to the TSA and Airport Security. The "no fly list", the porn-scanners, the masturbatory search techniques which all flyers have a risk of being subject to. This is a softer victory, that the US Citizens will allow themselves to be violated in such ways. They said the terrorists hate our freedom. We've given it up when we fly. And not only did few complain, they said "I feel safer". Should we now adapt and create a "Theater Security Agency" that will do the same things when we go watch movies?

I'd rather discard the whole DHS/NSA/TSA apparatus and live free and even fly unmolested knowing there is a small chance that I might be the victim of terrorism. But I think my rights are important. If everyone else is so worried about that infinitesimal chance, then perhaps we should ban movies and theaters themselves (in the Netflix era) the same way we ban kiddie scissors, butter knives, and too hot lighters.

Anonymous Laz December 18, 2014 11:48 AM  

paradox: "And there is no way in hell it's outstanding."

Then name a movie from 2005 that you think has better special effects

Anonymous Noah B. December 18, 2014 11:56 AM  

In recent years, there seems to be an inverse relationship between the amount of special effects and the quality of the overall film.

"Then name a movie from 2005 that you think has better special effects"

Munich. It certainly didn't have as many special effects as Revenge of the Sith, but they were used effectively where they were appropriate.

Blogger automatthew December 18, 2014 11:57 AM  

Then name a movie from 2005 that you think has better special effects

Serenity.

Blogger automatthew December 18, 2014 11:58 AM  

Then name a movie from 2005 that you think has better special effects

Also, calling out special effects is moving the goalposts. Movies with few or no special effects can be visually stunning.

Blogger Chris Ritchie December 18, 2014 12:02 PM  

So speaking of killing people who disagree with Christian beliefs, how is that justified unless you are personally being attacked?

But that brings up another question. If the U.S. was founded on Christian principles, if it is clear from the other writings of the founding fathers that they meant freedom of religion for various Christian sects (methodist, anabaptist, presbyterian, etc.) only and not freedom of Judaism, Hinduism, Atheism, and especially not Islam, then how did it morph into the religious free for all we see today?

Why CAN'T we simply say no to a new mosque in Kennesaw, GA? or New York City? Why can't we simply disallow shrines to Satan? We wanted freedom within the Christian religion so that one denomination didn't lord it over another ala Calvin's Geneva. But surely we never meant freedom to worship pagan gods or the Devil. Not when the majority were at LEAST Deists, if not outright Jesus-believing Christians in 1776.

Blogger Chris Ritchie December 18, 2014 12:03 PM  

http://sonsoflibertymedia.com/2014/10/youngest-appointed-supreme-court-justice-real-object-first-amendment/

Anonymous paradox December 18, 2014 12:06 PM  

Laz

Then name a movie from 2005 that you think has better special effects


Special effects not make one great.

Anonymous Jack Amok December 18, 2014 12:08 PM  

Better be some off-site archiving, or…Sony may be a zombie company at this point, if enough damage has been done to busines systems that can't be reconstructed.

Yeah, they've actually stolen some data - as in copied it, deleted Sony's originals, and then corrupted backups. They're holding that data hostage. I don't know exactly what it is though, or if it's why Sony is caving. But my contacts inside Sony say the company is freaked out about something.

Blogger John Wright December 18, 2014 12:08 PM  

"As with the Star Wars prequels, I saw the first one, and as a result, will not watch the second two."

Wise.

Anonymous clk December 18, 2014 12:09 PM  

I think there is natural dissapointment in any movie based on a book of the statue of the Lord of the Rings ... I cant really think back to many adaptations of my favorite books where the movie is really true to the books ..in general I been dissappointed .. and to be fair maybe its not even possible I am not sure that its even possible to take a book like the LOTR and make a canonically true movie. It's not really limited to only books either ,,, series such are Star Trek to a large extend (and Star wars to a much much much smaller degree) - there is a canon and I am very dissapointed when the canon is violated... but for the larger viewing audience the canon is of little importance...


Anonymous paradox December 18, 2014 12:11 PM  

Special effects as a metric... The Lion Witch and the Wardrobe... Wallace and Gromit: The Curse of the Were-Rabbit... Sin City...

Blogger Markku December 18, 2014 12:12 PM  

And Sin City was TRULY visually stunning. Perhaps still one of the most visually stunning movies.

Anonymous takin' a look December 18, 2014 12:16 PM  

seriously on the day it releases a movie that sympathetically portrays Nazis rounding up Jews or presents a powerful emotional defense of KKK members defending their families and community from the depredations of black Americans

I'll settle for an accurate portrayal of the Holodormor and the $aturdays who ran that horror show.

Anonymous Noah B. December 18, 2014 12:20 PM  

"Movies with few or no special effects can be visually stunning."

Absolutely. The Proposition (also 2005) has some mind-blowing night photography.

Blogger Mike Smith December 18, 2014 12:23 PM  

Fran Walsh is not Peter Jackson's wife
It's also silly to blame mostly Fran given that the main bloat is the action scenes which are pj'a department. Also it is worthwhile to point out that Boyens and Del Toro have writing credit. But go ahead mostly blame a woman because reasons.

Blogger Markku December 18, 2014 12:26 PM  

Fran Walsh is not Peter Jackson's wife

Technically true - they just cohabit and have two children.

Blogger Krul December 18, 2014 12:26 PM  

Laz - episode 3 was visually outstanding.

Eh. Other than the opening shot, and maybe that one closeup of Anakin from right after he killed the Separatist leaders, it didn't have anything visual to make it stand out from the other two films.

Anonymous Me So Ronry December 18, 2014 12:27 PM  

If you are in Dallas you can see a substitute movie about North Korea

Blogger Krul December 18, 2014 12:38 PM  

Mike Smith - But go ahead mostly blame a woman because reasons.

She cut Beorn's scene for this.

Blogger Mike Smith December 18, 2014 12:54 PM  

Citation needed. She-elf in general feels like a Boyens addition in addition to the Hollywood thing of sticking a love story into everything. I haven't seen the third yet but even spotting she-elf pj is still more to blame given how it's the action stuff that just drags on and on.

Anonymous JoeyWheels December 18, 2014 1:13 PM  

I'm in favor of anything that keeps Seth Rogen from cashing a paycheck and/or being on any screen.

Blogger Krul December 18, 2014 1:35 PM  

pj is still more to blame given how it's the action stuff that just drags on and on.

As director, PJ deserves all the blame for everything including the womens' changes. As cowriter, Walsh has a share in the blame for the bad writing decisions, such as elf/dwarf love story, cutting Beorn and the general bad dialogue. I don't think VD is trying to absolve PJ of his responsibility for the Hobbit films' flaws, given his criticism, but I don't speak for him.

Anonymous Dumb founded December 18, 2014 1:39 PM  

There seems to be two views on who did the hacking:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-12-18/someone-lying

Was it the Norks or not?

Anonymous VD December 18, 2014 1:44 PM  

"In Tolkien’s largely female-free “Hobbit,” Ms. Boyens said, “The lack of feminine energy becomes very evident.”

“And oppressive,” Ms. Walsh added."


Both Walsh and Boyens are primarily to blame. Peter Jackson comes in for second-order blame because, like most gamma males, he simply let the women do what they wanted. And women ruin everything.

Anonymous Discard December 18, 2014 2:01 PM  

So many lines to read between.
North Korea is just a convenient boogieman? I can see that. Like Iraq and their WMDs.
Caving to threats of theater bombings? Complete bullshit. North Korea does not have the means, unless they plan to hire Jihadis.
Somebody has got hold of all sorts of interesting personal information? Makes sense. It worked for the anal marriage crowd.
Marketing that's gotten out of hand? That's a dangerous game for Sony, as it invites the FBI in.
Caving for fear of liability in the event of bombings? No. Even if the bomb threat was real, the First Amendment would trump it, especially when Hollywood is the defendant and even more so when they can play the patriot and wave the flag.

My guess is that, yeah maybe NK did it, maybe disgruntled employees did, but nobody is threatening to bomb, but to release very embarrassing information. Most likely sexual misadventures with 14 year olds, but maybe, hopefully, let it be, please, the minutes of the last meeting of the Learned Elders of Zion/Wye.

Anonymous Anubis December 18, 2014 2:01 PM  

Obolo kissing up to the Carrib Commie Castros at the same time. Commies gonna commie.
O-Hole and Cuba both hate that the Cubans in America are conservative & do better than Hispanics anywhere outside of Spain.

Blogger Proud Feminist Girl December 18, 2014 2:10 PM  

I though Sony was Japanese, therefore they wouldn't care about political correctness

Anonymous Daniel December 18, 2014 2:19 PM  

NK is crowing about how they brought Japan to their knees over this movie. It wasn't about PC (not directly) it was about Sony having to hassle with a low-revenue cherrypicker movie suddenly interfering with their Christmas blockbusters.

The "Interview" was just a cowcatcher, not a tentpole. They'd have gone to bat for a tentpole. After all Batman didn't get cancelled after the Batman shooting. Too big a movie.

Blogger Krul December 18, 2014 2:41 PM  

PFG - I though Sony was Japanese, therefore they wouldn't care about political correctness

They're reacting to a threat. This has nothing to do with political correctness.

Also, the picks of the Sony Senior Management team on Jack Aubrey's link are nearly all roundeyes.

Anonymous Michael Maier December 18, 2014 2:42 PM  


Krul December 18, 2014 12:26 PM Laz - episode 3 was visually outstanding.

Eh. Other than the opening shot, and maybe that one closeup of Anakin from right after he killed the Separatist leaders, it didn't have anything visual to make it stand out from the other two films.


Funny... First viewing I thought the first minute after the crawl was all the proof I'd need to know it would 100% suck.

Anonymous Daniel December 18, 2014 2:45 PM  

Man the Hobbit movies were so dang funny, they were worth seeing, even if it completely funded the visual destruction of one of my beloved books.

They were this:

Part 1) Literally a poopheaded wizard distracts Gandalf so the Dwarves can run really fast through a bunch of fight scenery.
Part 2) Literally a warrior chick friendzones a thin, sexy, tall Dwarf so that the Dwarves can forge a (literal) melting golden middle finger to Smaug, causing him to destroy Laketown. The Hobbit makes a surprise cameo near the end of the movie.
Part 3) Haven't seen but: Sauron is defeated in massed combat against a few tall beardless dwarves astride the coattails of several ferocious pre-teen girls. Loki makes a surprise cameo near the end of the movie to deliver the moral of the movie, which is: "Star Wars 7 simply must be more inclusive."

Blogger Krul December 18, 2014 2:51 PM  

MM - First viewing I thought the first minute after the crawl was all the proof I'd need to know it would 100% suck.

It took you that long? I had all the proof and then some by the time I read this gem:

"War! The Republic is crumbling under attacks by the ruthless Sith Lord, Count Dooku. There are heroes on both sides. Evil is everywhere.

In a stunning move, the fiendish droid leader, General Grievous.."

Blogger Ben Cohen December 18, 2014 3:00 PM  

The mindset of a feminist is amazing, that the Hobbit is "oppressive" because there are no women in it. Why were these women directing a movie about a book that they hate?

The movies were okay but nothing special because there wasn't much character development which is the most important part of a film. The problem is that that doesn't appeal to teenage boys who want to see massive battles and teenage girls who want to see romance and girl warriors like Tauriel.

Game of Thrones the show is much better than these films in terms of character development.

Vox, how would you have made the hobbit and LOTR if you could?

-FUBAR Nation Ben

Anonymous Daniel December 18, 2014 3:04 PM  

He would have made the last one The Battle of Favre Armies, and many a Packer would be slain...

Anonymous Cail Corishev December 18, 2014 3:19 PM  

In a stunning move, the fiendish droid leader, General Grievous.."

The Rifftrax guys at that point:

Bill: "Meanwhile, Vice Chancellor Ugga Bugga and Darth Buttcrack are rendezvousing on the planet Ovaltine, where the rebel leader Beebee Snausageberry is fighting the dreaded Cameltoeians." How's that?
Mike: I think you've got the hang of this whole Lucas thing. Here, have 20 billion dollars.

Anonymous GreyS December 18, 2014 3:19 PM  

The only reason they made this film in the first place is the FBO from NK = $0.

They would never ever ever make anything close to this about China or any other country with box office. They tout their "courage as artists" but in reality they are hacks who merely picked someone they could make fun of and denigrate--- supposedly without any BO retribution or bad consequences. They made a supposed "safe" choice and got burned big time.

The only strange part to me is why the suits would stay committed to this hack job as they saw the fallout train coming down the tracks.

Anonymous VD December 18, 2014 3:22 PM  

Vox, how would you have made the hobbit and LOTR if you could?

By the book(s).

Blogger JCclimber December 18, 2014 4:01 PM  

Methinks someone has a seriously firm grip on the Sony Pictures family jewels.

It has nothing to do with threats to theatregoers, who are under a greater threat getting from the parking lot to their seats from the vibrant Youts hanging around than from a bomber.

Blogger Cataline Sergius December 18, 2014 4:05 PM  

So long as we are all off topic.

Natalie Portman it turns out, only bothered with going to college because her career was dead. Lucas' patented, Do Not Act, school of directing left everyone with the impression that she couldn't carry her part in a bucket.

Hayden Christensen got it worse. He did a good job in Shattered Glass but unlike Portman he didn't have the connections to survive contact with a George Lucas film.

Blogger Cataline Sergius December 18, 2014 4:14 PM  

By the book(s).

No kidding. You don't make The Hobbit without Smaug's Boasting.

You expect to see it if you are seeing The Hobbit. It's a big part of the reason you are showing up in the first place.

It's like going to see Hamlett and hearing, "To be or... may be not...I dunno this all kind of heavy man."

Blogger Krul December 18, 2014 4:15 PM  

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Blogger Krul December 18, 2014 4:16 PM  

Re: Cataline,

At least Liam Neeson got out alright. I believe he's starring in Taken 4: Miss Taken.

Speaking of action schlock, has anyone seen John Wick? Any good?

Anonymous Daniel December 18, 2014 4:29 PM  

Methinks someone has a seriously firm grip on the Sony Pictures family jewels.

Naw, the Interview was a crumbcatcher for the blockbusters. They didn't want hassling with it to get in the way of whatever big guns they have out for Christmas. Those low-rev pix are mercenaries: if they become a big (non-revenue) story, they go away like this.

Sony would have gone to the wall for something that had real money riding on it.

They could care less about any precedent or any message this cowardice sets: they are intrinsically cowardly.

Oh - I thought of a new one they could do:

The Hobbit: Rise of the Machines

Blogger Cataline Sergius December 18, 2014 5:02 PM  

Paramount Pictures Cancels Screening of Team America: World Police at the Alamo Drafthouse Cinema.

The word "pussy" comes irresistibly to mind.

Anonymous kh123 December 18, 2014 6:48 PM  

Here's to hoping Andrew likes orange as a clothing option.

Blogger jaericho December 19, 2014 9:47 AM  

Speaking of action schlock, has anyone seen John Wick? Any good?
It's mindless action schlock. Not great, but if you want to see gun fu, its fine. Actually the role fits with Keanu, the character being stoic to the point of woodenness.

Anonymous Michael December 19, 2014 11:23 AM  

Man, people are gullible, taking Sony's word at face value that they were hacked by NK and essentially blackmailed to prevent a movie from opening. As if Kim J. and his crew have nothing better to do than to go after Sony Pictures. Where's the hard evidence? How do you know Sony didn't leak private info to an outside party and then fabricate a story about being hacked in order to generate interest in a film nobody would otherwise give a crap about?

Anonymous Stickwick December 19, 2014 12:43 PM  

"In Tolkien’s largely female-free “Hobbit,” Ms. Boyens said, “The lack of feminine energy becomes very evident.”

That's a feature, not a bug.

Anonymous Jordan December 20, 2014 6:19 PM  

...But "The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug" was a marked improvement over the first one and "The Hobbit: The Battle of Five Armies" is the best movie of the trilogy rising to the level of the "Lord of the Rings" movies:

http://filmcomment.com/entry/deep-focus-the-hobbit-the-battle-of-the-five-armies

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