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Wednesday, December 03, 2014

The pain of the rejected

In which we endeavor to soldier on:
A while back, during THE WEREWOLF ERA of our blog (seems like a thousand centuries ago), someone suggested some books by Vox Day and Larry Correia.  I dismissed them because I wasn’t interested in them, seemed too tongue in cheek or wacky or silly for me.  Apparently someone told Vox Day about it, which I think is sad that anyone should make it his business that there’s someone on the internet that doesn’t want to read his books, but whatever.

Anyway just wanted to mention that I think Larry Correia does deserve some respect, especially for having THE UNMITIGATED GALL of having opinions that most artists don’t approve of.
Actually, I understand from people who frequent GoodReads that not reading Vox Day's books is not only rather common, but qualifies as something of a badge of honor to which all good and decent people should aspire. Based on comments I have seen here and there, there even appears to be something of a competition with regards to the vehemence with which one vows never to pollute one's eyes with words whose order I have arranged. In comparison with this, I fear Mr. Webcomics's benign indifference is hardly likely to impress anyone.

Especially since he has committed the unthinkable crime of saying something positive about the International Lord of Hate, the Nemesis of the SJWs, Mr. Larry Correia.

I've never quite grasped the idea about being upset that people don't read your books. When even Umberto Eco's own children express what he describes as "Olympian indifference" towards HIS work, the miracle is that anyone has any interest in it at all.

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Anonymous JN December 03, 2014 3:24 PM  

...not reading Vox Day's books is not only rather common, but qualifies as something of a badge of honor to which all good and decent people should aspire.

I've only read two. Can I repent?

Anonymous Nate Winchester December 03, 2014 3:27 PM  

Hmm... weird, you can read:

Apparently someone told Vox Day about it, which I think is sad that anyone should make it his business that there’s someone on the internet that doesn’t want to read his books, but whatever.

In two different ways. To demonstrate I'll input fake names.

1) Apparently [Bob] told Vox Day about it, which I think is sad that [Bob or others] should make it [Vox's] business that there's someone on the internet that doesn't want to read [Vox's] books, but whatever.
2) Apparently [Bob] told Vos Day about it, which I think is sad that [an author] should make it [his/her] business that there's someone on the internet that doesn't want to read [the author's] books, but whatever.

Hmmm... I legitimately wonder which meaning was intended.

Anonymous Stephen J. December 03, 2014 3:32 PM  

"Based on comments I have seen here and there, there even appears to be something of a competition with regards to the vehemence with which one vows never to pollute one's eyes with words whose order I have arranged."

Sir, whatever offense I may have ever taken at your opinions, I hereby forgive you it all for the craftsmanship of that sentence.

Anonymous Dumb founded December 03, 2014 3:35 PM  

Which sites are those where people proudly proclaim that they have not read Vox's words?

Some of us should crash the party.

Blogger James Higham December 03, 2014 3:50 PM  

with regards to the vehemence with which one vows never to pollute one's eyes with words whose order I have arranged

Know the feeling well. :)

Anonymous Porphyry December 03, 2014 3:55 PM  

"Sir, whatever offense I may have ever taken at your opinions, I hereby forgive you it all for the craftsmanship of that sentence." eh too 20th century intellegentia revival for me, which happens a lot around here I might add. It would've worked better had the last phrase been in Italian and the "words who's order I have arranged" been simplified. But i guess that's part of the joke.

Anonymous Beau December 03, 2014 3:55 PM  

one vows never to pollute one's eyes with words whose order I have arranged

Even the spaces between the words are evil.

Anonymous Amok Time December 03, 2014 3:58 PM  

I think it would be hilarious if VD or one of the other literary Ilk, adopted a pen name and suitable SJW back story with appropriate tears. Then see the Scalzi crowd endorse the novel. Prepare then for crying and gnashing of teeth as the true author is revealed.What Drama!!

It may have happened or be happening at the present moment. Beware SJW the Ilk will have you!!

Anonymous Alexander December 03, 2014 4:03 PM  

Man, and the 2015 Hugo nomination process hasn't even kicked off yet.

Here's a toast to 2015, Castalia House, the world of ATOB, and the Dread Ilk: I have a feeling it's going to be a great year.

Anonymous Porphyry December 03, 2014 4:03 PM  

"with regards to the vehemence with which one vows never to pollute one's eyes with words whose order I have arranged" They wish for space to make clean their derivatives. But we shall give them none, yea even unto the breach, we shall propel them upon their own webs.

Anonymous zen0 December 03, 2014 4:05 PM  

If Vox can get paid to NOT WRITE books, is there any way we could get paid by SJW's to NOT READ Vox's books?

Mamma needs a new pair of shoes.

Anonymous clk December 03, 2014 4:14 PM  

"I understand from people who frequent GoodReads that not reading Vox Day's books is not only rather common, but qualifies as something of a badge of honor to which all good and decent people should aspire."

Why dont you do an experiment and publish some works under a different name ... ?

Anonymous Jabari December 03, 2014 4:14 PM  

Ok, fess up. Which one of you tipped Vox on this one? I can't imagine that he follows SWC on his own. *laugh*

Anonymous Nate Winchester December 03, 2014 4:18 PM  

@jabari

*raise hand* Yeah I saw it and thought him and Larry would get a kick out of it.

Anonymous Jabari December 03, 2014 4:25 PM  

LOL

SWC can be amusing, ran across it through something else (Bad Webcomics Wiki, I think) related to how Sinfest has turned to garbage.

Anonymous Mr. Rational December 03, 2014 4:36 PM  

Sinfest turned to garbage?  Not in my experience.  It keeps surprising me with wacky plot twists and fun characters like Buddha.

Anonymous Nate Winchester December 03, 2014 4:37 PM  

Jabari, you'll probably love the worst of Tumblr if you don't read it already.
http://fucknodumblr.tumblr.com/

Anonymous WaterBoy December 03, 2014 4:42 PM  

Nate Winchester: "Hmmm... I legitimately wonder which meaning was intended."

It seemed to me that #1 was the intended meaning due to the implication in the introductory clause of the sentence...though I agree, it could be either one.

Anonymous Anubis December 03, 2014 4:58 PM  

The social justice whoreiers are happy with illegal immigration when they don't realize how illiterate the masses coming in are. Pedro will never read any of their books

Anonymous jack December 03, 2014 5:03 PM  

Uco's kids don't read his works? Unbelievable. I've read, I think, three of them. How can they not read them? If nothing else, at least to respect what they may inherit when he hits the big time. I mean this is a major writer by any definition that makes sense.

Blogger Zaklog the Great December 03, 2014 5:15 PM  

@Dumb Founded, I would suggest a few people head over to TVTropes.org and write up a few of Vox's books. Right now, he's only acknowledged over there under S**t Fundamentalists Say. It's actually an interesting site for analyzing fiction of all sorts, and worth investigating, but I'm pretty sure you would ruffle some feathers by adding and categorizing Day's work.

I would work on this myself, but I have yet to read any of Vox's fiction. (No offense. I find this blog quite interesting, but there's only so many hours in a day. I'm sure I'll read a novel or two someday, perhaps become a big fan.)

Anonymous Porphyry December 03, 2014 5:17 PM  

"Pedro will never read any of their books" I heard that actually the only reason anyone ever wants to go America is to read This Star Wont go Out. By the way you racist bastard how dare you suggest that people not from your own privileged background are less intelligent than you. You f--ing Nazi I Cant EVEN

Anonymous Grey Enlightenment December 03, 2014 5:40 PM  

Why don;t they call it good books instead of good reads? like good eats instead of good food? Annoying use of a verb as a noun

Blogger jimmy-jimbo December 03, 2014 5:42 PM  

The oddity about writing about nothing. Who cares that you don't care? Apparently, they do.

Blogger great Unknown December 03, 2014 5:43 PM  

Since the author of this blog is nothing if not altruistic, I suggest he maximize his literary output. This would allow the SJW even greater pleasure of arrogance in having more books they would never read.

Anonymous MendoScot December 03, 2014 5:47 PM  

Especially in the epic fantasy department.

Harumph!

Anonymous WaterBoy December 03, 2014 5:55 PM  

He can be paid to not write books they wouldn't read, too, you know....

(I think something in the literary space-time continuum just broke.)

Anonymous Severian December 03, 2014 6:06 PM  

Personally, I gave A Throne of Bones three stars, but only because I couldn't finish it (at the risk of sounding like a chick, Vox, it's not you, it's me -- I discovered in the course of reading ATOB that I don't have the sticktuitiveness for epic fantasy anymore). I did recommend it to anyone who's into that genre, though. So far I have not been purged from Goodreads, though I assume I will be soon....

Anonymous Quadko December 03, 2014 6:13 PM  

anyone should make it his business that there’s someone on the internet that doesn’t want to read his books
Something known in evil pig-dog capitalist schools as "market opportunity identification." Can you believe they study this evil stuff? And then they put it in practice and feed their families? Meanwhile SJWs everywhere are going hungry waiting for grapes on a silver platter to fall from the sky into their laps; the world is just sooo unfair.

Blogger JLanceCombs December 03, 2014 6:27 PM  

Full Disclosure: Still haven't read any Vox Day work. I own one of your books on my Kindle, but haven't gotten around to reading it. Love reading your blog, though.

Anonymous mattos December 03, 2014 8:26 PM  

Ever wondered why you never see Vox and Stephenie Meyer in the same place at the same time?

Anonymous Godfrey December 03, 2014 8:44 PM  

I have to admit... in... in a moment of weakness, I read "The Return of the Great Depression." I'm sorry. Please... please forgive me. Do not banish me from the rabbit circle jerk.

Ok...ok... I might as well go all the way... I also read "The Irrational Atheist". My God!... oops... I mean My Darwin! Please realize... I didn't believe a word of it... not a word. I just had to know the mind of the enemy.

Anonymous Steve December 03, 2014 9:06 PM  

Vox, which of your novels would you recommend to someone who hasn't read any of your books yet?

Anonymous The Original Hermit December 03, 2014 9:13 PM  

OT: Navy: Women secretly filmed in shower aboard sub
So glad I got out well before the integration happened.

Anonymous tiredofitall December 03, 2014 9:20 PM  

"Meanwhile SJWs everywhere are going hungry waiting for grapes on a silver platter to fall from the sky into their laps; the world is just sooo unfair." - Quadko

Have you seen some of the land whales on the SJW side? They ain't missing any meals.

Vox I gotta ask you something, why is it that most of the people critical of you are either nobodies, or fading "stars" (like Scalzi, Hines, etc) ? Are they really hoping to goose their own profiles by showing off their rabbit bona fides, or what?

Anonymous rudeboy December 03, 2014 9:40 PM  

I've read the Irrational Atheist. It's crazy where some of the points made in that book have shown up. Years ago, I heard a US Army Major read off some of the exact figures on the religious aspect of war, using the same source as Vox.

Anonymous Viidad December 03, 2014 9:43 PM  

@The Original Hermit

"As a supply officer and lieutenant, it was her job to serve as a mentor for the younger female submariners and to be a leader among the crew.

"'The only reason I was there was to stop the submariners from being a--holes, and to get the women to stop crying,'" she recalled. "'I felt like it was fine, but I felt like I was in control of the situation.'"

Crying women "soldiers". Pathetic.

Anonymous Difster December 03, 2014 9:47 PM  

Vox, which of your novels would you recommend to someone who hasn't read any of your books yet?

Start with Rebel Moon because it can only get better from there.

Anonymous Daniel December 03, 2014 9:48 PM  

Makers and Men, tiredofitall, wouldn't even conceive of bragging about things they have not done, such as not read a book.Thus, it is left to those who do not or cannot Make and those who are not Men to pick up the slack. McCreepy and McRapey are the Leopold and Loeb of literature: famous for fucking up - they are the best of their kind, the pinnacle, and thus, the best and brightest among the morons even capable of screeching without basis against the truth.

Blogger grendel December 03, 2014 11:03 PM  

"Ever wondered why you never see Vox and Stephenie Meyer in the same place at the same time?"

Holy crap dude, that would be the greatest reveal since the trojan horse.

Anonymous Ain December 04, 2014 12:49 AM  

tiredofitall: "Vox I gotta ask you something, why is it that most of the people critical of you are either nobodies, or fading "stars" (like Scalzi, Hines, etc) ? Are they really hoping to goose their own profiles by showing off their rabbit bona fides, or what?"

It's extremely important to SJW's to be accepted by their group. Reaffirming each others' dogmas is like a drug addict getting her fix.

Anonymous VoK December 04, 2014 12:58 AM  

The greatest possible reveal would be if we found out that Vox and Scalzi are one and the same.

Blogger Joshua Dyal December 04, 2014 8:12 AM  

"'The only reason I was there was to stop the submariners from being a--holes, and to get the women to stop crying,'" she recalled. "'I felt like it was fine, but I felt like I was in control of the situation.'"

Crying women "soldiers". Pathetic.


I love how just a paragraph above that, the same quoted individual talks about chewing someone out for asking where the females are. They're not females, they're officers! My job is to get them to stop crying!

Where's the cognitive dissonance that those two statements placed in such close proximity should engender?

Anonymous roo_ster December 04, 2014 12:09 PM  

Finally got around to posting an Amazon review for ATOB and TLW. Both got four stars from me. Worth one's time to read. ATOB for epic fantasy, TLW for more character-driven stories. A four-star fantasy read is better than 90-95pct of most muck served up as genre fantasy, nowadays. I was so blessed in my youth to have read through JRRT, Lieber, Campbell, Howard, & such in succession.

Anonymous VD December 04, 2014 12:53 PM  

Finally got around to posting an Amazon review for ATOB and TLW.

Thanks. I read them. I thought they were both solid, fair reviews. It's always interesting to see what story of the three in TLW people prefer; the distribution almost appears to be random at times.

Anonymous roo_ster December 04, 2014 10:21 PM  

Reviewed Summa Elvetica. Again, four stars. Good read, better than most, but not greatness. Worth the money and time spent. I must admit I enjoy the way that ATOBiverse cultures are not crippled and inorganic things lacking in religion the way so many sorta-medival European settings are. Leaving out religion in such a setting is like describing a medieval castle with neither a kitchen nor a midden.

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